* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:34] GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO SEPTEMBER, 2020 FOURTH OR 2020 SEPTEMBER, 2024. 2025. REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, LET ME REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM. LOCATE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AND SUBMIT THE COMPLETED FORM TO THE SERGEANT IN ARMED. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, USE A MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR YOUR NAME AND CITY. SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE BODY. DO NOT ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY. BE MINDFUL ON THE TIMER, ON THE LECTER, AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT BEFORE YOUR SPEAKING TIME ENDS. THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE OR PERSON OF THE LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE. A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME, AS WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE A RECORD BEFORE THE COUNCIL. ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL IMP PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR BECOME BOISTEROUS AND DISRESPECTFUL WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION. IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND HEAVENLY FATHER. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER AS NEIGHBORS AND AS A COMMUNITY. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER IN A SPIRIT OF SERVICE WITH A DESIRE TO BUILD A STRONGER SHAPER AND MORE CARING PLACE FOR ALL WHO CALL THIS HOME. BLESS EACH PERSON HERE, MAY OUR CONVERSATION BE GUIDED BY WISDOM. OUR DECISIONS SHAPED BY FAIRNESS AND OUR ACTIONS ROOTED IN COMPASSION. HELP US LISTEN WITH OPEN HEARTS, RESPECT ONE ANOTHER EVEN IN DISAGREEMENT AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD. WE ASK THAT THIS MEETING BE FILLED WITH THE COOPERATION AND UNDERSTANDING, AND THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO TODAY WILL STRENGTHEN THE BOND THAT UNITE US AS A COMMUNITY. IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN US FOR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. ROTH ROLL CALL VOTE. MR. MCEWEN, COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY. HERE. VICE MAYOR NEWMAN. HERE. MAYOR ALFRE. AND I AM HERE MOVING ON PRO PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATION. WE DON'T HAVE ANY. NEXT IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES IS SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2025. BUDGET, PUBLIC HEARING AND REGULAR MEETING. WE HAVE A MOTION. MAYOR, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING, UH, WITH ALL ADDITIONS. OKAY. AND I'LL SECOND THAT SO WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE. AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. MS. LAMB. YES, WHILE IT'S IN YOUR WRITTEN REPORT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BRING UP, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT, IN ADDITION TO THAT IS OUR PARKS, RECREATION AND GOLF DEPARTMENT HAS EARNED ACCREDITATION THROUGH THE COMMISSION FOR ACCREDITATION OF PARK AND RECREATION AGENCIES. AND THAT IS A, A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF OUR STAFF FOR WORKING THROUGH THE ACCREDITATION PROCESS. AND WE ARE THE ONLY PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW IN THE, IN THE, IN BREVARD COUNTY TO HAVE THAT RECOGNITION. AND SO, UM, THERE REALLY ISN'T A HUGE NUMBER ACROSS THE NATION AND I PROBABLY HAVE THE NUMBER WRONG, BUT IT, IT'S ONLY LIKE MAYBE 200, 300, UH, ACROSS THE WHOLE NATION. SO IT'S A, IT'S A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT AND PART OF THAT PROCESS WAS ESTABLISHING OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND HAVING THEM IN WRITING. SO I'M VERY, VERY PROUD OF THAT STAFF TO HAVE, UM, WORKED SO HARD ON THAT AND TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THAT. UM, CONGRATULATIONS. YEAH. OUT OUTSTANDING. THE OTHER ONE IS NOT ON THE WRITTEN REPORT, HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN, STAFF HAS BEEN CONTACTED BY THE CONCERNED CITIZENS COMMITTEE OF SOUTH BREVARD AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED TO, UM, IF, IF THEY CAN DONATE PORTRAITS OF THE FOUNDERS AND HAVE THEM DISPLAYED WITHIN CITY HALL. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, ADMINISTRATIVELY I WAS GOING TO WORK ON THEM ON THIS, ON THIS ISSUE. HOWEVER, IT IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, MAKE [00:05:01] SURE THAT THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS AND JUST GAIN, GAIN CONSENT ON THE, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SO, OKAY. WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, WE'LL START WORKING ON THAT DONATION AGREEMENT. WE ALL AGREE? YEP. I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS. AND THEN THE NEXT THING IS THE NATIONAL NIGHT NIGHT OUT EVENTS WILL OCCUR ON OCTOBER 7TH. I BELIEVE YOU'VE ALL RECEIVED INVITATIONS. JUST THOUGHT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT. AND THE POLICE COMMUNITY RELATION COUNCIL'S ANNUAL COMMUNITY FORUM IS ON OCTOBER 9TH AND THOSE ALL OCCUR BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL START OUT WITH KATHY ELIA, FOLLOWED BY PETER. GO, I'M SORRY. HI, GOOD EVENING. KATHY ELIAS, UH, WITH OG GALL ARTS DISTRICT. I'M COMING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL TODAY BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE ARTWORKS NONPROFIT HAS HOSTED THEIR HISTORICAL ART FESTIVAL FOR 28 YEARS IN THE ALI ARTS DISTRICT. HOWEVER, THIS YEAR THEY DECIDED NOT TO HOST IT SO THAT THEY COULD GEAR UP FOR THEIR 30TH ANNIVERSARY. WHILE WE UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT, WHY THEY'RE DOING THIS, WE ALSO SPOKE TO THEIR, UM, ORGANIZERS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT NOT HOSTING THAT FESTIVAL WOULD SIGNIFY, UH, OR WOULD REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT LOSS FOR OUR MERCHANTS WHO HAVE CONSISTENTLY REPORTED A GROWTH IN THEIR SALES DURING THOSE, UM, DATES. THEY, UM, REPORT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 25 TO 65% INCREASE IN THEIR SALES DURING THOSE DAYS. SO, UM, WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE WANT TO TAKE OVER THE FESTIVAL THIS YEAR. HOWEVER, WE LEARNED ABOUT THEIR DECISION AFTER THE 90 DAY WINDOW TO APPLY FOR THE PERMITS HAD PASSED. SO I'M ASKING COUNCIL TO LIFT THAT RESTRICTIONS THAT WE CAN SUBMIT OUR APPLICATION FOR THE PERMITS AND THAT WE CAN HOST THE FESTIVAL THIS YEAR. THAT'S NOVEMBER. GOOD SIR? WHAT'S THAT? I'M SORRY. THIS IS NOVEMBER 22ND AND 23RD. SO WE HAVE 60 DAYS, WHICH IS MAYOR. GOOD, SIR. THANKS. UH, WE'VE LIFTED, UH, RESTRICTIONS ON DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE NUMEROUS TIMES, UM, FOR BOTH, UM, UH, TV APPEARANCES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. TODAY, I THINK WE CAN FIND OUR WAY THROUGH TO, UH, WORK WITH CITY STAFF AND IF, AND IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL HELP, KEVIN, IN ANYTHING AND GATHERING ANY KIND OF INFORMATION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I'M, I'M GONNA SUPPORT IT. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WILL DO, BUT I CERTAINLY HOPE THEY DO AS WELL TOO. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GO AHEAD MA'AM. KEVIN, IS THE 60 DAYS AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THE CITY TO GET THINGS DONE? AS LONG AS, UM, THE APPLICANT GETS THEIR THINGS IN ON TIME? WE HAD OUR, WE HAVE OTHER EVENTS THAT FOLLOW A 60 DAY DEADLINE, UM, IF THEY HAVE A ROAD CLOSURE OR NEED POLICE SERVICES THAT WE CAN DO, THIS IS AN ANNUAL EVENT THAT OCCURS, SO IT'S NOT BRAND NEW. I WOULD JUST POINT COUNSEL BACK TO THE CODE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADOPTED THAT RESTRICTS ME FROM AMENDING THOSE DEADLINES IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, WHICH IS WHY MS. ELIAS WAS GIVEN THAT ANSWER, SO, OKAY. BUT IT'S DOABLE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, THEN I'LL SUPPORT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANKS. OKAY. WE NEED TO, DO YOU NEED A CONSENSUS AT ALL? DO WE NEED I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS, DON'T WE? DOES ANYBODY? WE HAVE A CONSENSUS. I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU. PETER , AL LUNA, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. GOOD. LUNA, FOLLOWED BY DAVID OUTLAW. HEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVING ME A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO, UH, SAY WHAT, WHAT A LOSS IT WAS WITH CHARLIE KIRK AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I FIND OUT STUFF ON THE NEWS ABOUT POSSIBLY NAMING THE STREET AND STUFF. I THINK, UH, OUR CITY SHOULD DO WHATEVER'S, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND, UH, MY SECOND ISSUE IS, UH, I WAS HERE BEFORE, UH, THE EARLIER PART OF THIS YEAR WHERE THEY WERE DOING A, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY ON HOLLAND STREET, PLUS ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN OTHER AREAS THAT WERE UNDER THAT SAME, YOU KNOW, UH, THING. AND I WAS WONDERING WHERE I COULD GO TO FIND THE UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON. OKAY. ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IF YOU WANT, I CAN, UH, HAVE YOUR, UH, INFORMATION, ACTUALLY, MS, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? OR I CAN HAVE STAFF REACH OUT TO HIM. WE'LL HAVE STAFF REACH OUT TO YOU, BUT JAMES ENNIS, OUR CITY ENGINEER, IT WOULD BE THE PERSON TO CONTACT FOR TRAFFIC STUDIES. AND WHAT'S HIS NAME AGAIN, MA'AM? JAMES. JAMES ENNIS. ENNIS, E-N-N-I-S. OKAY. HEY, UH, THAT'S ABOUT IT. I, UH, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME AND LET, AND LET ME TALK. OKAY. THANK YOU. DAVID OUTLAW, FOLLOWED BY LONG ISLAND AUDIT INC. [00:10:01] GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AS YOU MENTIONED FOR RENAMING THE STREET NOGA AFTER CHARLIE KIRK. UH, IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE HAVE SEEN THE PEOPLE OF BREVARD COUNTY COME TOGETHER IN AN AMAZING WAY TO HONOR A GREAT MAN. HOWEVER, THIS WAS NOT WITHOUT OPPOSITION AS WE SAW THE LEFT AND MEMBERS OF THE LEFT CELEBRATE THE MURDER AND POLITICAL ASSASSINATION OF A HUSBAND AND A FATHER IN FRONT OF HIS FAMILY AND THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS. THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IS NOT ISOLATED FROM THESE PEOPLE AS WE HAVE SEEN SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, SOME OF THEM GOING VIRAL WHILE OTHERS DID NOT. THIS MISS MUST SERVE AS A REMINDER THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE AMONG US THAT BELIEVE CHARLIE KIRK DESERVED WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. IF YOU HOLD THE SAME POLITICAL BELIEF, THEY BELIEVE IT. THEY BELIEVE YOU DESERVE IT AS WELL. IN HIS FINAL MOMENTS BEFORE HE WAS SHOT IN THE NECK, UH, CHARLIE KIRK WAS DISCUSSING THE ISSUE OF TRANS VIOLENCE. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ACT OF VIOLENCE IS NOT AN ISOLATED EVENT. AS WE HAVE SEEN MEMBERS OF THE L-G-B-T-Q COMMUNITY INCREASE THEIR PURSUIT OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE WITH THE ASSASSINATE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, THE NASHVILLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHOOTING, THE CATHOLIC SCHOOL SHOOTING, AND NOW THE ASSASSINATION OF CHARLIE KIRK, ALL CONDUCTED BY MEMBERS OR COMPANIONS OF MEMBERS OF THE LGBT COMMUNITY. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ADDRESS THE MATTER OF THE PRIDE FESTIVAL IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE THIS WEEKEND, HOSTED BY THE SAME LGBT COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN ENGAGING WITH IN SO MUCH POLITICAL VIOLENCE, WHICH HAS ONLY BEEN INCREASING. THE CITY OF TAMPA UNDERSTANDS THE DANGERS OF THESE CELEBRATIONS AS WE SAW LAST WEEK WHEN THE CITY CANCELED THEIR PRIDE PARADE CITING CONCERNS SUCH AS THE POLITICAL CLIMATE. I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY WE ARE ALLOWING TO OUR CITY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE RECENT EVENTS IN THE TEMPERATURE OF THIS COUNTRY BEFORE WE DISMISS THESE AS RADICAL ACTIONS AS DISTANT HAPPENING ONLY IN FAR AWAY DEEP BLUE CITIES. I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THE EVENTS OF THIS WEEK WHEN SUPPORTERS OF THE LGBT DEFIED FLORIDA STATUTE ONE 10.1 17 IN CLEAR VIOLATION LIGHTING UP THE MELBOURNE CAUSEWAY WITH MEM WITH RAINBOW COLORED LIGHTS. THESE RADICALS ARE RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD AND THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE RULES. WHILE POLICE PRESENCE AT THE FESTIVAL IS GREATLY APPRECIATED, I DO NOT THINK IT'LL BE SUFFICIENT TO DETER THOSE WHO OPENLY DEFY STATE POLICY AND ENCOURAGE POLITICAL VIOLENCE. THOSE OF US WHO WILL BE AT THE FESTIVAL TO OPPOSE THESE EVENTS ANTICIPATE VIOLENT ATTACKS FROM THESE RADICALS AND WE WILL NOT BE DETERRED DESPITE OUR PRO UH, PROTEST BEING PEACEFUL READING OF GOD'S WORD AND PRAYER OR THOSE IN ATTENDANCE. AND I'LL END WITH THIS. THE PRIDE FESTIVAL MARKS THE SECOND PRIDE MONTH OF THIS YEAR. JUNE WAS NOT ENOUGH. SEPTEMBER WILL NOT BE ENOUGH, EITHER. THE RADICAL VIOLENT ARM OF THE LEFT WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO CRAM THEIR IDEOLOGY DOWN OUR THROATS UNTIL WE ARE COMPLIANT OR MURDERED. IT IS FOR THESE REASONS, I WOULD ASK THE COUNSEL TO CONSIDER CANCELING THE PRIDE PARADE AND THE FESTIVAL AND LET US CONTINUE TO HONOR THE MEMORY OF CHARLIE KIRK, NOT ONLY BY NAMING A STREET AFTER HIM OKAY, BUT BY OPPOSING WHAT HE WAS KILLED WHILE TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. LONG ISLAND AUDIT INC. FOLLOWED BY JOHN PAUL. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF MELBOURNE. MY NAME IS SEAN PAUL REYES. I'M AN INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST DEDICATED TO EXPOSING TYRANNY AND CORRUPTION AMONG GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. TONIGHT I STAND BEFORE YOU TO ADDRESS GRAVE CONCERNS DEALING WITH MAYOR PAUL EY, ROOTED IN DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE AND TROUBLING ALLEGATIONS DRAWN FROM THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENTS' INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION, AS WELL AS SUBSEQUENT ACTIONS WHILE IN OFFICE. LET US BEGIN WITH THE DAMNING DETAILS OF THE IA REPORT DATED JULY 21ST, 2012. ON APRIL 4TH, 2012, OFFICER RODRIGUEZ OBSERVED THAT THE MAYOR THEN CANINE HANDLER REPACKAGED COCAINE, HEROIN, MARIJUANA, MDMA AND METHAMPHETAMINE FROM SECURE METAL TINS INTO FLIMSY PLASTIC BAGS. DURING TRAINING SESSIONS, THOSE BAGS WERE LATER FOUND SPILLING INSIDE THE CONTAINERS, CREATING A RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT RISK FOR HIS CANINE PARTNER, RISKING POISONING. AS NOTED BY THE DEPUTY CHIEF HIMSELF, HE EXCUSED THIS BEHAVIOR BY CITING RUSTY TINS, YET YOU FAILED TO FILE THE REQUIRED WRITTEN REPORT UNDER MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT GENERAL ORDER 43 POINT 30 52. IN MORE THAN 22 INSTANCES, YOU MAY ARE NEGLECTED TO SECURE WITNESS SIGNATURES WHEN RETURNING NARCOTICS FAILURES. YOU ULTIMATELY ADMITTED THE LACK OF WITNESS SIGNATURES RAISES QUESTIONS WERE THESE DRUGS REPURPOSED FOR ILLICIT USE? THE LACK OF OVERSIGHT FUEL SUSPICION WHEN THE VIOLATION WAS SUSTAINED, THE MAYOR CHOSE TO VOLUNTARILY SEPARATE FROM THE DEPARTMENT ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2012, SEPTEMBER 10TH, EXCUSE ME. BUT THIS WAS NO CLEAN BREAK. IT WAS AN EVASION OF DISCIPLINE, A MANEUVER TO AVOID DETER [00:15:01] DETERMINATION. LATER, AS MA AS MAYOR, YOU DISMISSED THE CHIEF. I WAS TOLD THAT YOU PUSHED THE CHIEF OUT TO RETIRE THE VERY CHIEF WHO, WHO, WHO HELD YOU ACCOUNTABLE, FURTHER SHIELDING YOURSELF FROM SCRUTINY. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS PATTERN OF EVASION MISCONDUCT EXTENDS BEYOND YOUR CAREER AND INTO YOUR FAMILY LIFE. I HAVE RECEIVED CREDIBLE ALLEGATIONS INVOLVING YOUR LATE BROTHER BRIAN ALFRE REPORTS INDICATE THAT YOU CHARGED OVER $20,000 ON HIS CREDIT CARD FOR CRUISES, CRYOTHERAPY SESSIONS, AND BRAZILIAN TELEVISION SERVICES FOR YOUR ALLEGED MISTRESS. YOU ALSO ALLEGEDLY SECURED A $200,000 BALLOON LOAN THROUGH A COMPANY YOU CO-OWNED WITH BRIAN WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF HIS WIDOW, WHO RIGHTFULLY HOLDS A 50% STAKE. EVEN MORE TROUBLING ARE ALLEGATIONS THAT YOU FRAUDULENTLY USED HER NOTARY STAMP TO FORGE DOCUMENTS, AN ACT THAT IS BOTH A BETRAYAL OF TRUST AND A CRIME MAYOR. AND I'M GLAD YOU THINK IT'S FUNNY. I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY FUNNY. NO. FOLLOWING BRIAN'S DEATH, YOU ALLEGEDLY WEAPONIZED THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOUR, YOUR FORMER COLLEAGUES TO INTIMIDATE YOUR NIECE AND SISTER-IN-LAW. YOU USED THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO INTIMIDATE YOUR NIECE AND YOUR SISTER-IN-LAW, SUMMONING THEM TO OUT OF JURISDICTION LOCATIONS AND TURNING A PUBLIC INSTITUTION INTO A TOOL FOR A PERSONAL VENDETTA. I HOPE YOU OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, SIR. MORE MINUTES. HE'S GOT THREE MORE MINUTES. NOPE. NO. JOHN, JOHN. PAUL'S GOING TO BE, UH, ASSIGNING ME HIS TIME. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU WANNA RUN IT NOW THAT, OH, THE LAWSUIT'S COMING TO ME. GREAT. ARE ARE YOU THE MISTRESS? HEY, HEY, SIR. HEY, HEY. REMOVE HIM. AH, NICE TO MEET YOU MR. ABSOLUTELY. HEY, HE'S GIVING, HE'S GIVING ME HIS TIME. HE'S GIVING WHOA, WHOA. NO, HE'S GIVING ME HIS TIME'S. YOU'RE NOT EXCUSE PERMITTED FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO YIELD HIS TIME TO ME. WORK THAT WAY. ANY CITY COUNCILWOMAN. STAND UP. HE'S ALLOWED TO TRANSFER HIS TIME TO ME. HEY, I GAVE HIM HIS TIME. HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT A, HE CAN'T JUST TELL PEOPLE TO LEAVE. WE GOT DI HANDLE. TELL PEOPLE TO LEAVE. I HAVE THREE MINUTES. I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL YOU HAD YOUR MINUTES. YOU ADD YOUR TIME, SIR. LISTEN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT CUFFS ON ME. HE'S GIVING ME HIS TIME. ARE THEY, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO GIVE OVER TIME, YES OR NO? WE CAN LET YOU BACK IN. LET'S GO. HERE YOU GO. YOU WANT READ THIS? LISTEN, LISTEN. YOU WANNA READ THIS MR. CITY ATTORNEY? HE'S THREE MORE MINUTES. THIS ONE. THANK HIM PLEASE. HE'S GOT THREE MORE MINUTES. COURTESY COUNSEL, PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, SIR. HE HAS THREE MORE MINUTES. HE'S GIVING HIS TIME. MAYOR, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. IF YOU WANT THIS BACON CAN SPEAK NEXT. YOU THREE MORE MINUTES. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO YIELD MY TONGUE. NO, WE'RE NOT YIELD TIME MR. CITY ATTORNEY. I OKAY. I WAS JUST LIKE YOU, YOU ANSWER AS A HEY, WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU WHAT, WE'RE GONNA RECESS FIVE MINUTES. DON'T ATTORNEY. YES, SIR. CALM DOWN. WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A STANDARD POLICY FOR YIELD FREE YIELDING TIME. SAY THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S PART, IT'S PART, IT'S PART OF OUR STANDARD POLICIES NOT TO YIELD TIME. SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PART OF OUR NORMAL PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY TO YIELD TIME TO, TO OTHER SPEAKERS. YEP. MR. JEAN PAUL HAD HIS, HAD HIS THREE MINUTES, I'M SORRY. UM, JEAN PAUL REYES, UH, LONG ISLAND AUDIT AS HE IDENTIFIED HIMSELF, HAD HIS, HAD HIS TIME. MR. MR. JEAN PAUL, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE HIS THREE MINUTES. HE HAD HIS THREE MINUTES. SO NICK, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON THOUGH, ARE JOHN PAUL, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR THREE MINUTES, SIR, SINCE YOU'RE NOT GONNA LET ME YIELD MY TIME. I'M GONNA, UM, SUBMIT THIS INTO EVIDENCE AS FDLE INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS REPORT. UM, IN REGARDS TO THE MATTER THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED, IS ALSO THE CAPITAL ONE, UM, INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE FRAUDULENT CHARGES THAT WERE, UM, PUT ON, UH, YOUR DECEASED BROTHER'S CREDIT CARD, UM, OF THE AMOUNT OF OVER $20,000. AND I'D ALSO, UH, LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNSEL THAT, UM, AS A TAX PAYER IN THIS COUNTY, I'D LIKE TO SEE MY TAX DOLLARS FOR MELBOURNE PD GOING TO THEIR JURISDICTION THIS WEEKEND. UM, AN ALTERCATION TOOK PLACE WHERE YOURSELF AND YOUR, UH, PLACE OF BUSINESS FOR YOUR ALFRE ROOFING THAT YOU ARE A CO-OWNER OF IS THE JURISDICTION OF THE BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WHICH THREE OF MY TAXPAYERS, UM, [00:20:01] OFFICERS FROM MELBOURNE PD WERE THERE, BUT IT'S CONTROLLED AND JURIS HOLDS JURISDICTION BY THE BOULEVARD COUNTY SHERIFF. SO I'M GONNA ENTER THIS INTO, UM, RECORD. YEAH, YOU'RE DROPPING PAPERS. MAKE SURE YOU GIVE THAT TO HIM, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT, NEXT COMMENT. CHANTELLE HOLSTEIN, FOLLOWED BY ALEXIS RIVERA. DOES THE TIMER GO BACK OR IS IT STILL WITH THAT? MA'AM DOES THE TIME OKAY. YEAH. HE'LL, HE'LL TAKE CARE. GO AHEAD. NO WORRIES. AND I, I, GO AHEAD. YOU'RE FINE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CHANTELLE STEIN AND I AM GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT SPACE COAST PRIDE. OKAY. IF YOU WERE TO VISIT SPACE COAST PRIDE.ORG, THE FIRST THING YOU'RE GREETED WITH IS A HEADER IMAGE OF THE PARADE. AT FIRST GLANCE, MOST OF THE PARTICIPANTS APPEAR TO BE ADULTS, BUT IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, YOU'LL NOTICE A YOUNG CHILD, NO LIKELY OLDER THAN THE AGE OF SIX. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND. SCROLLING FURTHER, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE NO LISTED AGE RESTRICTIONS. THE WEBSITE CLEARLY STATES THIS EVENT IS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND PROMOTES ITSELF AS FAMILY FRIENDLY. ON THE SURFACE, IT APPEARS SIMILAR TO A WALK FOR CAUSE. HOWEVER, WHAT IS NOT SHOWN ARE THE ACTUAL ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE AT THIS EVENT. VIDEOS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA TELL A DIFFERENT STORY. DRAG QUEEN PERFORMANCES WITH EXTREMELY PROVOCATIVE DANCING AND REVEALING OUTFITS TAKE PLACE JUST FEET AWAY FROM CHILDREN. THESE ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE STREET OR MAIN STAGE, BUT THEY ALSO OCCUR INSIDE LOCAL RESTAURANTS. DURING THE FESTIVAL, MY CONCERN GOES DEEPER THAN THE PERFORMANCES THEMSELVES. CHILDREN ARE NATURALLY DRAWN TO VIBRANT COLORS, MUSIC LIVELY CELEBRATIONS, BUT THEIR MINDS ARE STILL DEVELOPING AND THEIR INNOCENCE SHOULD BE PROTECTED. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS POINT. THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS DISCUSSION ARE THE CHILDREN. WHILE SUPPORTERS MAY FRAME THIS EVENT DIFFERENTLY, THE REALITY IS THAT SPACE COAST PRIDE CENTERS ON SEXUAL EXPRESSION. SO I ASK, WHY IS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE PREMIERING OR PERMITTING AN EVENT OF THIS NATURE UNDER THE LABEL OF FAMILY FESTIVAL? IF IT WERE HONESTLY DESCRIBED AS A SEXUAL PREFERENCE CELEBRATION, WOULD IT STILL BE VIEWED AS APPROPRIATE FOR FAMILIES? WOULD IT STILL BE AN EVENT WORTHY FOR FAMILIES? THIS IS AN ADULT CENTERED SPECTACLE AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH WITH APPROPRIATE RESTRICTIONS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE COUNCIL CHOSE TO ALLOW THE EVENT TO PROCEED, BUT I URGE YOU ALL TO WATCH CLOSELY BE VIGILANT, SEE THE REALITY FOR YOURSELF. THE TRUTH IS THAT THIS IS NOT A FAMILY EVENT. IT IS NOT A PLACE FOR CHILDREN, AND IT'S NOT THE KIND OF FESTIVAL THAT REFLECTS THE VALUES OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. I CONCLUDE MY STATEMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALEXIS IS RIVERA FOLLOWED BY LINDSEY MC, MC AL, I BELIEVE I APOLOGIZE BY BUTCHER THAT HOW ARE YOU DOING? HI, EVERYBODY. GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? GREAT. UM, I'M JUST A MOM ORIGINALLY FROM ORLANDO, AND, UM, I MOVED TO MELBOURNE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, SO, UH, THIS IS NOTHING NEW TO ME. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS MY CONCERNS OF PUBLIC INDECENCY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRIDE PARADE THAT IS HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND. THIS IS NOT ANTI LGBT. THIS IS ANTI-PUBLIC INDECENCY. AS A CHRISTIAN AND A MOTHER, I BELIEVE THAT IS OUR JOB AS ADULTS AND PARENTS TO PROTECT AND SHIELD OUR CHILDREN. FROM THE EVILS OF THIS WORLD, WE CAN AGREE ON RAIDING MOVIES AND MEDIA. WE CAN AGREE ON AGE RESTRICTIONS FOR PORNOGRAPHY, AGE RESTRICTIONS FOR MIND ALTERING SUBSTANCES SUCH AS ALCOHOL AND DRUGS, BUT YET WE'RE DISPLAYING SEXUAL CONTENT AND ORIENTATION UNDER THE COVER OF PRIDE. THIS PARADE IS A GATEWAY INTO CULTURAL CORRUPTION. WE ARE GUARDS AT THAT GATE PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN'S HEARTS AND MINDS. I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE OUR CHILDREN'S INNOCENCE AND WE NEED TO, UH, TO SET A PRECEDENCE AND NOT ALLOW THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR TO AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY. PRIDE. PARADES ARE PROTECTED UNDER OUR FIR FIRST AMENDMENT AS A FORM OF EXPRESSION AND ASSEMBLY. AND I'M A TRUE BELIEVER OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, BUT IT'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIOLATE THE LAW. I'M ASKING THAT DURING THESE EVENTS, THE LAWS ENFORCED. UH, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENT TAKES THE ACTIONS NEEDED BASED ON THE CHAPTER FOUR OF OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, STRIPPED TEASES, PUBLIC NUD, NUDITY, DRAG SHOWS AND REGS ARE NOT REPRESENTATIONS OF WHAT WE STAND [00:25:01] FOR IN MELBOURNE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALEXIS RIVERA. LINDSAY LYNN. I'M SORRY. LINDSAY MC. I'M SORRY, IS IT? I APOLOGIZE. RIVERA. RIVERA. OKAY. I COULDN'T TELL. SO LINDSAY, AND HELP ME SAY YOUR LAST NAME. LINDSAY MCGARRIGLE. MCGARRIGLE, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THE PRIDE FESTIVAL IN ITS CURRENT FORM. WHILE ADULTS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GATHER, THIS EVENT IS CREATING REAL PROBLEMS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. FIRST, IT DISRUPTS LOCAL BUSINESSES, ROAD CLOSURES, CONGESTION AND LACK OF PARKING. UM, DRIVE CUSTOMERS AWAY WHO WOULD NORMALLY SHOP OR DINE IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. ON WEEKENDS, SMALL BUSINESSES SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BEAR THAT FINANCIAL LOSS. SECOND, THERE'S THE MATTER OF CHILD CHILDREN BEING PRESENT. SOME PERFORMANCES AND DISPLAYS AT PRIDE EVENTS ARE ADULT IN NATURE. PUBLIC SPACES SHOULD REMAIN FAMILY FRIENDLY AND PARENTS DESERVE TO KNOW THEIR KIDS WON'T BE EXPOSED TO INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT. THIRD, THIS CITY SHOULD APPLY ITS RULES CONSISTENTLY. IF ANY OTHER GROUP HELD AN EVENT THAT HARMED BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES IN THIS WAY, AN ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN. THE STAND SAME STANDARD SHOULD APPLY HERE. UM, I'M ASKING THAT THERE WOULD BE A STRONG POLICE PRESENCE AND OR CANCELING THE PRIDE EVENT FOR NOW. AND STRICTLY ENFORCING, UM, THE AGE, AGE LIMIT THAT PERHAPS, UM, YES, AGE RESTRICTED, UH, OR PERHAPS IN A VENUE THAT AVOIDS THESE ISSUES, THAT FREEDOMS ARE RESPECTED WHILE ALSO PROTECTING FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, AND COMMUNITY STANDARDS. PLEASE RECONSIDER, UM, THE FESTIVAL WELLNESS CURRENT, CURRENT FORM, OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES CELEBRATIONS THAT SUPPORT NOT HARM THE WELLBEING OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, CHANTEL HOLSTEIN. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY, GOOD. AND WILLIAM THE BROWN, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO PROBABLY PUT SOME WORDS LEGIBLE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO READ SOME OF THESE. I HATE BUTCHERING PEOPLE'S NAMES TOO. THANK YOU FOR THIS PUBLIC, UH, TIME OF COMMENT. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE TOWN. UH, BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH SEVERAL OTHER GUESTS ALREADY ABOUT THE SPACE COACH PRIDE EVENT. UH, FRANKLY, IT'S ALARMING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, THIS MUCH MISOGYNY THESE CHARACTERS WITH THEIR OUTFITS ON IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I SENT YOU ALL A EMAIL, UM, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THAT WAS TITLED CONCERN ABOUT THE SPACE COAST PRIDE EVENT. UH, AND, AND I WANNA ASK YOU, HAVE YOU CHECKED OUT THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE? I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE EVIDENCE OF THEIR FORMER, UH, EVENTS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST SHOCKED. I MEAN, THE ONE FROM LAST YEAR DATED ON SEPTEMBER 29TH HAD THESE DRAG QUEENS OUT THERE THAT, AGAIN, THEIR WHOLE OUTFIT IS MISOGYNISTIC. IT'S A DEGRADING OF WOMEN, UH, AND MOTHERS IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I CAN SEE WHY SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WERE HIGHLY OFFENDED. BUT APART FROM THE LEWDNESS AND DANCING, AND THESE ARE GENERALLY ADULT SEX INDUSTRY PERFORMERS THAT ARE OUT IN FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE LAST, UM, FESTIVAL THAT THEY HAD, THEY PUT ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE, UM, A COUPLE OF DRAG QUEENS, ONE OF THEM WITH A DEEP BARITONE VOICE, OBVIOUSLY SPEAKING IN FRONT OF THESE CHILDREN THAT ARE WELCOMED ON THESE THINGS, SINGING LOVE AFTER LOVE AFTER LOVE. WHAT KIND OF INFLUENCE IS THAT ON OUR TOWN AND WHY DO THEY GET THESE PERMITS? I MEAN, I, AS A CITIZEN, I'M SHOCKED AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GIVING TIME TO HEAR THIS AND THE OTHERS. UH, ALSO I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UH, THE MAYOR'S SUGGESTION TO RENAME A STREET FOR CHARLIE KIRK IS A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE WE NEED SOME WHOLESOME VALUES PRESENTED IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. GONNA BE BRANDON G FOLLOWED BY IRIS MONROE. HI. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. UH, I HAVE GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS TOWN AND, AND FOR THIS, THIS COMMUNITY AND A GREAT LOVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AS A BUSINESS OWNER IN MELBOURNE, AS WELL AS A LOCAL PASTOR, UH, THE VESTED INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, RESONATES WITH, WITH ME AS WELL AS IT DOES MANY OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN ON THIS ISSUE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS SPACE POST PRIDE, UM, ISSUE THAT WE HAVE AT HAND. THE QUESTION THAT I WANT [00:30:01] TO PUT TO YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, IS WHAT SORT OF CULTURE DO YOU WANT TO BREED WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE WANTING TO BE KNOWN AS? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT, UM, TO PROMOTE WITHIN THIS SOCIETY THAT WE LIVE IN? IS IT VALUES? IS IT, IS IT THE SANCTITY OF FAMILY? IS IT, UM, A A MORAL OBJECTIVE STANDARD BY WHICH WE ALL UNDERSTAND AND AGREE TO? IT'S UNTIL BREAKFAST, ESSENTIALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS SPACE GHOST PRIDE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PROMOTION OF SEXUAL DEGENERACY. THAT'S WHAT'S ON DISPLAY. THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PROMOTED, THAT'S BEING WHAT'S DEMONSTRATED TO IN, IN THE FACE OF CHILDREN NONSTOP. OUR, OUR, OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HERE WAS, UH, THERE LAST YEAR, UH, PARTICULARLY ALMOST ACCOSTING ME AS I PREACHED. SHE KNOWS FULL WELL EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING IS SEXUAL DEGENERACY BY NECESSITY RESULTS IN MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL DETERIORATION. WE SEE THIS EVERYWHERE. THIS ISN'T NEWS. AND IF WE'RE CELEBRATING THIS AS A SOCIETY, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING? THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO LEGITIMATE REASON WHY WE ARE GIVING PERMITS FOR THE CELEBRATION OF EXACTLY THAT SEXUAL DEGENERACY ON DISPLAY. THERE'S PLENTY OF SEXUAL DE DEGENERACY THAT PEOPLE FALL VICTIM TO. WE ARE ALL SINFUL HUMAN BEINGS. AS A PASTOR, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT QUITE AUTHORITATIVELY, BUT WHERE DO THOSE THINGS REMAIN? THEY REMAIN IN PRIVATE TILL THEY ARE BROUGHT OUT, AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO BE REPENTED OF LEST INCURRING THE JUDGMENT OF THE LIVING GOD, THE VERY GOD THAT WAS INVOKED TODAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, THIS MEETING. AMEN. AMEN. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING, IF YOU WOULD, BUT GO AND SEE FOR YOURSELF WHAT HAPPENS ON THESE STREETS AT THIS PRIDE FEST THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR LOVE AND INCLUSION. ALL THESE THINGS, WOULD IT ALL AT EASE IS FOR THE PERVERSION OF THE MINDS OF OUR YOUTH AND THE DEEPENING PERVERSION OF THE MINDS OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARTAKING AND THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO PLEASE, I URGE YOU, PLEASE CANCEL THIS EVENT. THE, THE, THE, THE, THE TOPIC OF REPENTANCE IS AN ONGOING PROCESS THAT WE DO TO THE LIVING GOD. WE ARE NOT PERFECT. YOU ARE NOT PERFECT, AND WE KNOW THAT. BUT YOU'RE DOING THE BEST YOU CAN. I ASK THAT YOU DO BETTER PLEASE. THANK, THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY, JUDGE PARTY KURT IRIS. OKAY, LET'S ROCK. UH, LET ME JUST TAKE CARE OF A FEW THINGS HERE. I ONLY RECENTLY SOLD MY, MY BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. AND PRIDE, WE WERE UP BY 60%. SO WHOEVER SAID BUSINESS WAS DOWN IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH AND A FOCUS ON THE COMPANY. SHE'S JUST NOT BECAUSE MY BUSINESS DID FANTASTIC DURING PRIDE. ALSO, I'M GONNA POINT OUT A SIMPLE FACT. BEING A CHRISTIAN IS A CHOICE. BEING QUEER IS NOT. NOW LET US ALSO POINT OUT THAT QUEER PEOPLE HAVE CHILDREN AND THERE ARE CHILDREN LIKE MYSELF WHO GREW UP KNOWING THAT I WAS QUEER. SO WHAT I, I'M SUPPOSED TO BE OSTRACIZED BECAUSE WHAT IT NOTHING PERVERTED ME. I WAS SIMPLY BORN AS FAR AS PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA PARTICIPATE, DON'T PARTICIPATE. WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? GO HOME. YOU HAVE ALL THE WHOLE YEAR. YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A A WEEKEND. A WEEKEND. AND THIS IS THE MILDEST, MILDEST. MOST FAMILY FRIENDLY. MY MOM IS GAY. KIND OF PRIDE POSSIBLE. SHUT IT SIR. THAT SAID, I'M ALSO GONNA LET THE SPEAKER SPEAK. PLEASE. I'M ALSO GONNA POINT OUT ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK, UM, COMPARING HIM TO MARTIN LUTHER KING AS FAR AS HE WAS NOT FOR EQUALITY, HE DID SPEW HATE. NOW, I DON'T CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT HE WAS KILLED, BUT TO SAY THAT IT WAS A LEFTIST IS STUPID. THE MAN WAS APOLITICAL. HE WAS APOLITICAL. I, I CAN'T EVEN WITH THIS AND TO NAME, TO NAME A STREET AFTER A DUDE WHO WAS A PODCASTER. RIGHT. NOT A REVOLUTIONARY. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. A PODCASTER, PODCASTER IS IS INSANE [00:35:01] COMPARED TO SOMEBODY WHO LED A GIANT MOVEMENT THAT ACTUALLY CHANGED HISTORY. ALRIGHT, CHRISTIAN. IT IT'S NOT YES, MLK WAS A CHRISTIAN, UH, CHARLIE KIRK SPEWED HATE AND MLK DID NOT. THAT SAID, IT'S INAPPROPRIATE. IT IS HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE AND IT'S NOT INCLUSIVE. IT TAKES AWAY FROM PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO CHARLIE KIRK HAD TERRIBLE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT BECAUSE I WAS A WOMAN. OR EVEN THOUGH I MARRIED A MAN, I STILL GO BOTH WAYS. UH, YEAH, IT DIDN'T MATTER, RIGHT? HE HAD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT EVERY GROUP, BLACK, WHITE, EVERYONE EXCEPT WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES. NOTHING. GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DR. RAY SHACKLEFORD, FOLLOWED BY RACHEL SIMMONS, MELBOURNE CITY COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. WE ALL KNOW THAT EVERY AMERICAN HAS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS HIS OR SIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS STATED IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. IT IS SAD THAT KURT USED SOME SPEECH TO EMBRACE HATRED, RACISM, AND VIOLENCE. FIRST OF ALL, EXODUS 2023 STATES, THOU SHALL NOT KILL, WHICH APPLIES TO ALL RACES AND ETHNIC GROUPS CONCERNING HATE. JOHN 24 SAID, IF ANYONE LOVES GOD AND HATES HIS BROTHER, HE'S A LIAR. JOHN 20 22, 9 SAYS, WHOEVER SAYS HE'S THE LIGHT AND HATES HIS BROTHER IS A LIAR. AN EXAMPLE OF HATRED. ACCORDING TO KURT, BLACK PEOPLE GO AROUND TO TARGET WHITE PEOPLE. FOR THE RECORD, BLACKS DID NOT ASSASSINATE. KURT BLACKS DID NOT ATTEMPT TO ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT TRUMP. BLACKS DID NOT ASSASSINATE THE MINNESOTA STATE REPRESENTING HER AND HER HUSBAND. AMEN. BLACK DID NOT ASSASSINATE UNITED HEALTHCARE. CEO THOMPSON BLACKS DID NOT ASSASSINATE BLACK STONE CO PARLET BLACK DID NOT ASSASSINATE THE MAJORITY OF THE MASS SHOOTING OCCURRED IN THE UNITED STATES. THANK YOU. CONCERNING RACISM, KIRK STATED THAT A BLACK SUPREME COURT MEMBER SHOULD NOT SIT ON THE BLACK, ON THE SUPREME COURT BECAUSE SHE'S NOT ELIGIBLE. NOW SHE HAS A JD, HE HAS NO DEGREE, AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT ELIGIBILITY. COME ON NOW. MATTHEW. MATTHEW 5 22 STATES. ANYONE WHO'S ANGRY WITH HIS BROTHER WILL BE SUBJECT TO JUDGEMENT CONCERNING THE VIOLENCE, VIOLENCE SAID, KURT SAID, IT IS WORTH TO HAVE A COST OF SOME GUNS. AND NOW HE'S A GUN DEATH VICTIM. PROVERB THREE DASH 31 STATES THAT DO NOT EN ENEMY ANY PERSON WHO SUPPORT VIOLENCE AND DO NOT CHOOSE ANY OF HIS WAYS, EMBRACE THIS CITY COUNCIL IS WILLING TO PRAISE A MAN WHO HATED 10% OF THE MELBOURNE CITY POPULATION AND EMBRACE RACISM AND VIOLENCE. SUCH ACTIONS ARE SLAPPED IN THE FACE OF BLACK FOUNDERS OF MELBOURNE AND MELBOURNE RESIDENTS WHO SEEK PEACE, UNITY, AND LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE. ALSO, SUCH PRAISING ACTIONS CAN BE RELATED TO FUTURE CAMPAIGNS AND PROPERTY ADVENTURES. GOD BLESSED OUR GREAT STATE OF MELBOURNE, OUR GREAT CITY OF MELBOURNE. AND REMEMBER, WE ARE ALL THE GOD CHILDREN. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DISAGREE WITHOUT BEING DISAGREE WITH, BUT IN OUR DISAGREEMENT PART, WE NEED TO SHOW LOVE, RESPECT, AND COMPASSION FOR EACH OTHER. THANK YOU RACHEL, RACHEL SIMMONS. IS THERE ANY MORE AFTER THAT? OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. UM, BEAR WITH ME EVERYBODY. I, UH, WAS NOT ACTUALLY PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT. AS SOON AS I CAME IN, I STARTED HEARING SOME INCREDIBLY HATEFUL AND DIVISIVE LANGUAGE AT A TIME WHEN I WAS EXPECTING OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER. UM, AND WHEN I SAY OUR COMMUNITY, I MEAN THE COUNTY, THE CITY, THE PEOPLE. WE'RE ALL ONE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE THE COUNCIL FOR THE ENTIRETY OF MELBOURNE. AND TO HEAR SO MUCH VITRIOL, SPEWED AGAINST PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE NEVER MET, NOT YOU, OF COURSE, THAT INDIVIDUALS TONIGHT SPEAKING, SPEAKING SO HATEFUL ABOUT PEOPLE THEY'VE NEVER MET. AND DOING SO IN THE NAME OF A LOVING GOD JUST ACTIVATED ME TONIGHT. UM, MY MAIN POINT BEFORE I RUN OUTTA TIME, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT SEPTEMBER IS SUICIDE AWARENESS MONTH. [00:40:02] WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AT THE BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS BEATING LAST NIGHT FOR QUEER ADULTS AND CHILDREN. EVENTS LIKE PRIDE PARADE AND FESTIVAL THAT FOLLOWS ARE SUICIDE PREVENTION. AND IT IS SO CONFUSING TO HEAR PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY COULD, THEY CARE ABOUT CHILDREN, THEY CARE ABOUT CHILDREN'S LIVES AND HOW THEY'RE TREATED EVEN BEFORE THEY'RE BORN. AND YET ONCE THEY'RE BORN, IF THEY COME OUT DIFFERENTLY THAN HOW THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BEHAVE IN ANY WAY, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS DYING YOUR HAIR OR CHOOSING TO GO TO A DIFFERENT COLLEGE THAN YOUR PARENTS WENT TO. UM, THE HATE JUST COMES OUT SO QUICKLY. AND FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT ISN'T A CHOICE, BUT IT IS A UNIFYING ASPECT OF THE COMMUNITY AND, AND TO HAVE THIS COMMUNITY IS SO IMPORTANT. UM, I ACTUALLY JUST HAD A FRIEND REACH OUT TO ME. I WAS GONNA GIVE HER A RIDE TO THE PRIDE PARADE AND SHE NO LONGER WANTS TO GO BECAUSE JUST THE OTHER DAY AT THE WALMART IN PALM BAY, SOMEBODY CAME UP TO HER COMPLETELY UNPROMPTED, JUST KIND OF GUESSING BASED OFF OF HER WHOLE VIBE, UM, THAT SHE WAS PROBABLY QUEER IN SOME FASHION, UM, DECIDING TO GET UP IN HER FACE AND SCREAM THAT SHE WAS A PEDOPHILE. AND THAT NARRATIVE IS THE KIND OF NARRATIVE THAT PEOPLE USE WHEN THEY WANT TO USE CHILDREN FOR THEIR OWN POLITICAL AGENDA. AND I AM JUST REALLY ASHAMED THAT MY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING ARE WALK IN THE DOOR. AND THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT I HEAR. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. HI, HARON. HELLO. UH, THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING EVER. SO, UM, PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I, I'M NOT PROPER. UM, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT FIRST THE CHARLIE KIRK ROAD NAME CHANGE. I, UM, ALSO WANTED TO INFORM YOU GUYS. I'M ASSOCIATED WITH TURNING POINT, UH, USA AND, UH, WE'RE FORMING A CHAPTER AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE RIGHT NOW. UM, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF, YEAH, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF POSITIVE, UH, RESPONSE. I MEAN, WE HAVE ALMOST 3000 FOLLOWERS IN A WEEK, SO WE'VE DONE REALLY GOOD WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND SO, UM, A LOT OF COMMUNITY, UH, MEMBERS, BUSINESS MEMBERS, UH, HAVE REACHED OUT TO US JUST SUPPORTING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND ASKING HOW THEY CAN HELP. SO THERE IS A LOT OF MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE VERY IN SUPPORT OF KIRK'S MISSION. UM, SO I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO STATE. UM, I ALSO DID WANT TO ADDRESS THE PRIDE EVENT GOING ON THIS WEEKEND AS A MOTHER. UM, I, I CANNOT HELP BUT WORRY ABOUT THESE CHILDREN AND WHAT THEY WILL BE EXPOSED TO AT AN EVENT LIKE THIS. UM, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS, I HAVE SEEN, UH, VIDEOS AND, UH, JUST FROM THE PAST ONES THIS, UH, 20 23, 20 24, UM, APPARENTLY THE KID ZONES, UH, JUST HOW FAMILY ORIENTED THIS SPACE IS, I THINK IS, IT'S A FAILURE TO THE FAMILIES OF THIS COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT WE ARE NOT PROTECTING OUR YOUTH NO MATTER. YES, I AGREE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN AND THEY ARE QUEER. I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I HAVE NO HATRED OR NO QUARREL WITH THOSE PEOPLE. WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS CHILDREN BEING EXPOSED TO LEWD AND JUST DESPICABLE THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T SEE UNTIL THEY'RE ADULTS. UM, I I THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S HALF NAKEDNESS. IT'S, THERE'S SEXUAL DANCING, THERE'S, IT, IT, IT MAKES ME VERY EMOTIONAL BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOW, I COULD SEND MY DAUGHTER AS A 10-YEAR-OLD TO HER FRIEND'S HOUSE AND NOT KNOW THAT FOR THE WEEKEND HER, HER FRIEND'S, FAMILY COULD BE TAKING MY CHILD TO THIS EVENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA. SO I JUST THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH PROTECTION FOR WHATEVER [00:45:01] THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS, UH, GROUP DO WITH CHILDREN. IT'S JUST A LITTLE TOO PROTECTED. UM, SORRY I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LISTENING. OKAY. RUTH, RUTH COUGH HOLD. YES, SIR. FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL SCOPE. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. MY NAME IS RUTH KAWELL. I'M FROM PALM BAY. UM, WHAT HAPPENS IN EVERY CITY AFFECTS THE OTHERS. WHAT HAPPENS IN THE COUNTY AFFECTS US ALL. SO I'M A CHILD OF THE GREAT I AM. I'M A SISTER TO OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. I'M A STUDENT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE GREAT I AM. THIS CITY'S ACTIONS AFFECTS ALL OF OUR B OUR COUNTY, THE L-G-B-T-Q COMMUNITY AND THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY IS JUST THAT. IT'S WHAT THEY WANNA BE, BUT WHEN IT AFFECTS THE REST OF US, IT'S NOT OKAY. IT'S NOT A CULTURE, IT'S A LIFESTYLE. THIS LIFESTYLE KILLED MY FRIENDS. THIS LIFESTYLE, CHOSEN LIFESTYLE INFECTED MY FRIENDS AND THEY DIED FROM IT. SO I'M NOT SO HAPPY TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANNA SAY, I WAS JUST BORN THAT WAY. WHEN YOU'RE BORN THAT WAY AND YOU SAY THAT STUFF, YOU'RE SLAPPING GOD IN THE FACE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO QUOTE SCRIPTURE, WELL, HERE'S SOME ONE CORINTHIANS SIX, NINE. OR YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT THE UNRIGHTEOUS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD. DO NOT BE DECEIVED EITHER THE SEXUALLY IMMORAL NOR IDOLATERS, NOR ADULTERERS, NOR MEN WHO PRACTICE HOMOSEXUALITY WILL BE SEEING GOD, THE SEXUALLY IMMORAL MEN WHO PRACTICE SEXUAL HOMOSEXUALITY AND SLAVERS, LIARS, PERJURES, AND WHATEVER ELSE IS CONTRARY TO SOUND DOCTRINE WILL NOT SEE GOD. THAT'S REAL SCRIPTURE. SO YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT THAT ADDRESSES THE SITUATION RIGHT HERE I AM THE BREVARD COUNTY, T-P-U-S-A FAITH DIRECTOR, AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS TYPE OF LIFESTYLE THAT KILLS MY FRIENDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MICHAEL STOVER. I THINK THAT THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKING NO, IF YOU I TURNED THIS. NO, HOLD UP. HOLD UP, HOLD UP, HOLD UP. LISTEN. UH, THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE WILL BE SPEAKING DURING THE, UH, CHARLIE KIRKLAND. SO IF YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THAT. IT IS, IT'LL BE DURING THAT, UH, DURING, DURING THAT. GO AHEAD. HOW DO ON THE AGENDA, SIR? WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY, MY NAME IS MICHAEL STOVER. I'M HERE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN OF BREVARD COUNTY TO URGE YOU SIR. SIR? YEAH. BUR YEAH. WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. MICROPHONE PLEASE. CAN'T HEAR YOU. CALL PEOPLE PROBLEMS. GOOD. MY NAME IS MICHAEL STOVER. I'M HERE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN OF BREVARD COUNTY TO URGE YOU TO CANCEL THE UPCOMING PRIDE EVENT SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH. I WANT TO BEGIN BY SHARING SOMETHING PERSONAL. WHEN I WAS YOUNG, I WAS SUBJECTED TO INDECENT EXPOSURE, AN EXPERIENCE THAT ROBBED ME OF MY INNOCENCE AND LEFT A LASTING WOUND NO CHILD SHOULD EVER CARRY. BECAUSE I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE DEEP AND LASTING DAMAGE IT CAUSES, I CANNOT AND WILL NOT STAND SILENTLY WHILE OTHER CHILDREN ARE LEFT VULNERABLE TO THE SAME VIOLATION. THIS IS NOT ONLY A PERSONAL CONCERN, IT IS ALSO A LEGAL ONE. FLORIDA STATUTE 800.04 PROHIBITS LEW OR IN LA VICIOUS, I CAN'T SAY RIGHT EXHIBITION IN THE PRESENCE OF A CHILD UNDER 16. FLORIDA STATUTE 8 4 7 0 1 1 MAKES IT UNLAWFUL TO CONDUCT OR PARTICIPATE IN, IN OBSCENE SHOW, EXHIBITION OR PERFORMANCE. I HAVE FIRSTHAND ACCOUNTS FROM RESIDENCE WHO ATTENDED PAST PRIDE EVENTS HERE IN BREVARD AND CONFIRMED THAT YOUNG CHILDREN WERE PRESENT. THAT ALONE MAKES THESE EVENTS UNLAWFUL BEYOND THE STATUTES. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON CHILDREN. RESEARCH SHOWS THAT WHEN CHILDREN ARE EXPOSED TO EXPLICIT SEXUAL CONTENT, WHETHER LIVE AND MEDIA OR ONLINE, THEY OFTEN FEEL CONFUSED, FEAR, DISGUST, AND ANXIETY BECAUSE THEY LACK THE TOOLS TO PROCESS WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. THE DAMAGE DOESN'T STOP THERE. IT CAN CAUSE NIGHTMARES, CLINGINESS, BEDWETTING, AND EVEN LONG-TERM HARM, SUCH AS UNHEALTHY VIEWS OF RELATIONSHIPS ACTING OUT WHAT THEY SAW OR BEING PREMATURELY SEXUALIZED. SEXUAL ABUSE IS NOT LIMITED TO PHYSICAL TOUCH. ALLOWING CHILDREN TO WITNESS SEXUAL ABUSE ACTS AS ALSO ABUSE. AND IF THIS EVENT MOVES FORWARD WITH CHILDREN PRESENT, IT MEANS OUR COUNTY OFFICIALS WILL BE COMPLICIT IN EXPOSING MINORS TO SEXUAL ABUSE. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. [00:50:01] THIS IS NOT ABOUT TARGETING A SPECIFIC GROUP. IF IT WERE A HETERO OF SEXUAL ADULTS PARADING INDECENTLY IN FRONT OF CHILDREN, I'D BE STANDING HERE SAYING THE SAME EXACT THING I WOULD PUBLIC IN DECENCY IS WRONG NO MATTER WHO DOES IT. AND CHILDREN SHOULD NEVER BE EXPOSED TO IT. THE LAW IS CLEAR, THE RESEARCH IS CLEAR, AND COMMON SENSE IS CLEAR. CHILDREN MUST NOT BE EXPOSED TO SEXUAL OBSCENITY. DO THE RIGHT THING. PLEASE CANCEL THE EVENT. THANK YOU. WENDY HICKMAN THERE. WENDY. WENDY HICKSON. YES. OKAY. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS WENDY HICKSON. I'M A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR. THE FIRST PART OF MY CAREER I WAS A POLICE DETECTIVE. I WAS ALSO A POLICE TRAINING OFFICER. I HAVE WORKED WITH THE CIA, THE FBI, THE FDLE, UH, LOTS OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. I DID A LOT OF UNDERCOVER WORK. AND IN THAT UNDERCOVER WORK I WAS ALSO A USE FORCE INSTRUCTOR. BUT IN THE UNDERCOVER WORK, YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO NOT ESCALATE BECAUSE YOUR COVER COULD BE BLOWN OR YOUR LIFE COULD BE ON THE LINE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. I LOVE THIS CITY. I HAVE OWNED A BUSINESS HERE FOR YEARS. I HAVE SERVED ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW REVIEW BOARD FOR SEVEN YEARS. UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED AND I'LL TELL YOU, I'M EVEN MORE CONCERNED LISTENING TO THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH INTOLERANCE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST AND GOD. UM, I CAN TELL YOU, IF JESUS WERE HERE, HE WOULD NOT BE HAPPY. HE WOULD NOT BE HAPPY. ABSOLUTELY. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL. LISTEN. HEY, ALLOW THE SPEAKER TO SPEAK PLEASE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO RENAME A STREET AFTER CHARLIE KIRK. HONORING SOMEONE IN THIS WAY IS NOT NEUTRAL. IT IS AN ENDORSEMENT. AND I MUST ASK EACH OF YOU, ARE YOU WILLING TO ASSOCIATE YOUR NAMES FOREVER WITH SOME OF THESE COMMENTS? AND I WILL READ THEM. HE HAS SAID THAT PROWLING BLACKS GO AROUND FOR FUN AND TARGET WHITE PEOPLE. THAT'S RIGHT. THE LIE HE HAS DESCRIBED BEING GAY AS AN ERROR. AND LET ME TELL YOU, PASTOR, YOU CANNOT CATCH GAY. MA'AM, I'M SORRY. I'M SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL, NOT TO THE YOU CANNOT CATCH GAY. AND I HAVE PATIENCE. I HAVE HAD YOUNG TRANS CHILDREN IN MY OFFICE WANTING TO KILL THEMSELVES RATHER THAN COME OUT TO THEIR PARENTS BECAUSE OF THIS CULTURE OF INTOLERANCE HE HAS. CHARLIE KIRK HAS SAID HE'S REFERRED TO TRANSGENDER IDENTITY AS A LIE THAT HURTS PEOPLE AND ABUSES KIDS. THAT IS NOT TRUE. TRANSGENDER CARE EMPIRICALLY HELPS THE CHILDREN AND THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT. AND YOU CAN LOOK UP THE EVIDENCE-BASED DATA THAT BACKS IT UP. CHARLIE KIRK HAS PROMOTED RHETORIC CONSISTENT WITH THE ANTI-SEMITIC GREAT REPLACEMENT THEORY, CLAIMING IMMIGRANTS ARE A PART OF A PLAN TO REPLACE WHITE RURAL, RURAL AMERICA. HE, HE HAS ECHOED ANTI-SEMITIC CONSPIRACY THEORIES. HOLD ON. ABOUT JEWISH, HOLD ON, ON ORDER, HOLD ON. I KEEP GETTING INTERRUPTED. HOLD ON, MA'AM. YEAH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND PLEASE, MA'AM, FOCUS ON, LISTEN, I WILL HAVE ORDER. EVERYBODY WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. DON'T UP INTERRUPT THE SPEAKER. DO WE? WE KNOW WHAT TIME. THERE'S NO TIMER, SIR. THANK YOU. THE TIME. OKAY. THAT'S YOUR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MA'AM. I, I DIDN'T, I I DIDN'T GET MY THREE MINUTES. THAT WASN'T THREE MINUTES. THAT WAS IF MAYOR, MAYOR, MAYOR HAS BEEN INTERRUPTED. OKAY. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. STOP ORDER, ORDER EVERYONE. HOW MUCH TIME DID SHE GET TO APPEAR? NO ONE SET THE TIMER. IT HAS NOT BEEN THREE MINUTES. I HAD IT ON MY PHONE. I'VE BEEN INTERRUPTED. OKAY, WE'LL START IT NOW THEN. HAVE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I HAVE A VIDEO. CHARLIE [00:55:01] KIRK HAS ECHOED ANTI-SEMITIC CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT JEWISH FINANCIERS CONTROLLING POLITICS AND CULTURE LANGUAGE THAT JEWISH WOG WATCHDOG GROUPS HAVE WARNED FUELS, HATES AND VIOLENCE. AND RIGHT WING EXTREMISM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALMOST ALL OF THE MASS SHOOTINGS IN THIS COUNTRY. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE ANTI NEWS REPORT ON THIS FACTS. ARE THERE LEFT WING FACTS CORRECT FACTS. THESE ARE NOT DIFFERENCES OF POLITICAL OPINION. THEY ARE RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, ANTISEMITIC, MISOGYNISTIC STATEMENTS THAT TEAR AT THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. AS A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, I SEE EVERY DAY THE TOLL, THE TOLL THAT EXCLUSION, DISCRIMINATION, AND HATE TAKE ON PEOPLE'S NERVOUS SYSTEMS. THAT'S RIGHT. MARGINALIZED GROUPS ALREADY CARRY THE WEIGHT OF STRESS AND TRAUMA. WHEN OUR LEADERS ELEVATE VOICES LIKE THIS, IT REINFORCES THEIR FEAR. FUELS ANXIETY DEEPENS DIVISIONS. AND I HAVE VOLUNTEERED AT THE PRIDE CELEBRATION. AND IF YOU CARE ABOUT SAVING LIVES, YOU RESPECT PEOPLE BEING THEIR AUTHENTIC SELVES. YOU DON'T CATCH BEING GAY. IT'S NOT A SIN TO BE GAY. IT'S NOT A SIN TO BE. TRANS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRANS AND GAY THROUGHOUT TIME AND THEY ALWAYS WILL BE. SO AS FAR AS, UH, PEOPLE TRYING TO HOLD THEIR PERSONAL RELIGION AND EVERYONE ELSE, UH, COMPLIANT TO HOW THEY BELIEVE THAT'S AGAINST THE AMERICAN WAY. THE AMERICAN WAY IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM FROM RELIGION. NOW LET ME SAY I'VE SEEN IN MY CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF INTOLERANCE. I'VE SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE SHOT AND KILLED BECAUSE OF INTOLERANCE. WE CANNOT BE, WE CANNOT AS A CITY ENDORSE SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN SO DIVISIVE. AND IF YOU'RE NOT OFFENDED BY CHARLIE KIRK, ODDS ARE YOUR WHITE CHRISTIAN AND STRAIGHT. AMEN. AND ARE THESE CALLING OF OTHERS THAT AREN'T THAT WAY? BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HURT BY HIS COMMENTS. THAT'S RIGHT. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU WOULD NOT ASSOCIATE YOUR NAMES WITH FOREVER MEMORIALIZING A STREET AFTER SOMEBODY THAT SPEWED SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS SO MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. KINDRED THOMPSON. THAT WOULD BE THE LAST SPEAKER. OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST OKAY. AND THEN BAR AND APOLOGIZE, BARBARA, IDA AFTERWARD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, GOOD EVENING. FIRST, LET ME SAY REST IN PEACE. UH, TO ALL THAT WHO LOST THEIR LIVES TO GUN VIOLENCE? NO FAMILY SHOULD EVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. UH, AND THESE ARE STILL OPEN CASES AND WE MUST LET THE TRUTH COME FORWARD. ALSO, I COME BEFORE YOU, NOT ONLY AS A FORMER CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATE, BUT AS SOMEONE WHOSE FAMILY HAS CALLED THIS PLACE HOME SINCE THE FORTIES. MY ROOTS ARE HERE AND SO IS MY HEART. I ALSO BRING WITH ME A BACKGROUND IN JOURNALISM. I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE AND I'VE WORKED AT TWO FOX NEWS TELEVISION STATIONS. I'VE EXPERIENCED HOSTING MY OWN PODCAST. AND THROUGH THAT WORK I'VE LEARNED THE POWER OF GIVING EVERYONE A VOICE AND ALLOWING EVERYONE TO TELL THEIR STORY. AND WE ALSO MUST CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE PRINCIPLES OF OUR FREE SPEECH. DIVISION IS BEING PLANTED EVERYWHERE AND DIVISION IS THE SEED OF EVIL. OUR CITY DESERVES BETTER. MELBOURNE DESERVES UNITY. STREET NAME SHOULD NOT BE PLANTED. STREET NAME SHOULD NOT BE CHOSEN OUTTA SPITE OR USED AS TOOLS OF THE VISION. THEY SHOULD REFLECT UNITY, FAIRNESS, AND A VISION FOR OUR FUTURE. AND WE MUST ALSO HONOR OUR PAST. EVEN OUR THREE FOUNDERS, PETER WRIGHT, BAUM, ALLEN, AND WRIGHT BROTHERS ARE NOT FULLY RECOGNIZED. THEIR PICTURES DON'T HANG IN THIS BUILDING. AND THE MONUMENT HAS NEVER AND HAS NEVER BEEN BUILT IN THEIR HONOR. I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER RECENTLY MET WITH CONCERNED CITIZENS WHO WILL BE DONATING [01:00:01] A PORTRAIT OF OUR FOUNDERS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL BUILDING. AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT QUICKLY. AMEN. UM, AT THE SAME TIME I WANNA SPEAK AS A RESIDENT OF COLBERT CIRCLE. THE FLOODING HAS GOTTEN WORSE SINCE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT BEGAN ON LIPSCOMB AND PIRATE LANE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, NEARLY 400 HOMES ARE BEING BUILT IN WHAT I CONSIDER A FLOOD ZONE. DEVELOPERS ARE SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLANS. I KNOW. SO PROJECTS DON'T PUSH MORE WATER INTO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT FROM WHAT WE RESIDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING, THAT SYSTEM IS FAILING. I HAVE FOOTAGE OF FLOODING SO BAD, YOU CAN'T CROSS THE STREET WITHOUT RAIN BOOTS. LIP SKIM FEELS LIKE IT HAS SINK HOLES. THE PAVEMENT IS CAVING IN ON MELBOURNE SIDE. THAT IS WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC. I BELIEVE SPEED BUMPS WHERE A GREAT MEASURE. BUT THEY SHOULD BE PLACED CLOSER TO SCHOOLS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE SAFETY MATTERS MOST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND BARBARA IDA, PLEASE. AND THAT SHOULD BE THE LAST ONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. MAYBE. HI. COULD NOT. I'M ALSO SPEAKING FOR A NEIGHBOR OF MINE WHO COULDN'T BE HERE WITH HIS QUITE ELDERLY, UH, SANDRA YATES, WHO THE MAYOR KNOWS. UM, THE SHOOTING DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK WAS TRAGIC AND TRAUMATIC, PARTICULARLY FOR HIS FOLLOWERS. EVEN THOSE LIKE ME WHO DON'T FOLLOW HIM, SEE YOUR PAIN AND SYMPATHIZE. MY WORDS REPRESENT MY VIEWS AND THAT OF SANDRA. I HAVE TWO OBJECTIONS TO NAMING A STREET AFTER CHARLIE KIRK, BUT I CAN THINK OF ANOTHER WAY TO MEMORIALIZE HIM AND OTHER VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE AT THE SAME TIME. FULL DISCLOSURE, I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH CHARLIE KIRK BEFORE HIS TRAGIC DEATH, SO I WASN'T PRIVY TO HIS ALGORITHM. BUT IN A DESIRE TO GET TO KNOW THIS ATED MAN ADMIRED AND PRAISED BY SO MANY, I DID SOME RESEARCH. MY TWO REASONS ARE THE RESULT OF IT. THE FIRST REASON IS THAT RATIONAL ADULTS STOP AND REFLECT BEFORE MAKING A DECI DECISION WITH PERMANENT CONSEQUENCES. A KNEE JERK REACTION TO SOME NEGATIVE WORDS IS AN IMPULSE THAT SIMPLY DOESN'T WEIGH THE BENEFITS AGAINST THE HARM THAT CAN ENSUE. MY SECOND REASON IS THAT CHARLIE KIRK SPOKE TO ONLY A LIMITED SEGMENT OF OUR SOCIETY AND VOCIFEROUSLY OFFENDED OTHERS. THEREFORE, THE PROPOSAL TO NAME A STREET AFTER HIM ALIENATES A HUGE PROPORTION OF THE RESIDENTS OF MELBOURNE. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WOMEN, AFRICAN AMERICANS, IMMIGRANTS, GAY FOLK, JEWS AND MUSLIMS DO NOT CONSIDER OURSELVES SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. NO, WE DON'T. AND WE OPPOSE NAMING THE STREET AFTER SOMEONE WHO DEMEANS US. FINALLY, MY PREFERRED COURSE OF ACTION IN HIS HONOR IS FRANKLY A CORRECTION TO HIS ADVOCACY FOR THE EXPANDED INTERPRETATION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT. THE PERPETRATOR OF HIS KILLING IS ALSO FROM A FAMILY ENMESHED IN GUN CULTURE. WE ARE ALL TOO FAMILIAR WITH THE ENDLESS LIST OF PRECIOUS HUMAN BEINGS WHOSE MURDERS, MURDERS WERE FACILITATED BY THE EASY AVAILABILITY AND PROLIFERATION, PROLIFERATION OF GUNS. I FEEL QUITE SAFE HERE IN CITY HALL WHERE GUNS ARE RESTRICTED. CHARLIE WASN'T SO LUCKY. UTAH COLLEGES ALLOW OPEN CARRY. I SUGGEST THAT THOSE WHO LOVE CHARLIE HONOR HIS MEMORY BY ASKING US TO SCALE BACK DANGEROUS GUN POLICIES AND CHAMPION REFORM. THAT'S MY OPINION. UH, ONE MORE THING. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE EVENTS AND BILLBOARDS ON HIS BEHALF ARE PROTE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. IT ALSO PERFECTS THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS TO EXPRESS CRITICISM OF HIS WORDS AND LET'S RESPECT CIVILITY IN THE LAW EVEN AS WE AGREED TO DISAGREE. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THAT WILL BE THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL COMING OUT. I'M GONNA, I, EXCUSE ME, I I TOOK TURN IN THE PAPER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. MA'AM, YOU, YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR A DIFFERENT ITEM. ITEM NUMBER 18. OH, I SIGNED WELL, HE MA'AM MA'AM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK NOW? YES, I WOULD COME ON UP. YES. WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR YOU. I TOLD HIM I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE RIGHT. THERE'S SO YOU 20 TALK NOW TOO. WHY DON'T YOU JUST MOVE THE ITEM UP? WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? WELL, WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT ITEM UP, GET IT OVER WITH. SO, UM, THAT ITEM IS AT THE, AT THE END. UM, SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL MOVE THAT ITEM UP NEXT SO EVERYBODY CAN GET THEIR SPEAKING DONE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT AROUND ALL MEETING. UH, MAYBE THAT'LL HELP OUT A LITTLE BIT SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION ON THAT. GO AHEAD MA'AM. MAAM, MY NAME IS RON. HOLD ON. STAND STANDBYS. STANDBY MA'AM. GO AHEAD. IF, IF, IF WE'RE MOVING THE ITEM THEN THERE, I THINK, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GET COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO MOVE IT. AND THEN IF THERE'S, [01:05:01] UH, STAFF PRESENTATION OR, OR I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO BEGIN, BEGIN THAT DISCUSSION PRIOR TO OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON MOVING IT UP OR CAN WE NAME THE ITEM OUTSIDE OUT LOUD PLEASE SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE OKAY. THE, THE ITEM. SO I MEAN, WE'RE JUST LIKE KNEE JERKING HERE, BUT LET'S GET IT OFFICIAL. OKAY. THE ITEM OF, UH, ITEM NUMBER 18 WOULD BE NEXT DISCUSSION REGARDING THE RE REMAINING OF CYPRESS AVENUE TO CHARLIE CLARK LANE REQUESTED BY MAYOR PAUL. EY. SO, SO IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND FINISH THAT AND YEAH, I WAS, I I WE APPARENTLY GOT MIXED UP. UM, I, WHEN HE TOLD ME IT WAS 18, I THOUGHT IT WAS, WELL, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL KEEP IT 18 AND WE'LL MOVE UP 18. IS THAT OKAY? WELL, MY COMMENTS ARE STRICTLY ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK AND, AND THAT THAT'D BE ITEM NUMBER 18. YEAH. AND, AND THE WHOLE GAY AGENDA. THAT AIN'T NONE OF Y'ALL BUSINESS. . OKAY. MY NAME IS RHONDA ELKINS AND I'M FROM SOUTH. HOLD ON. STANDBY. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. ARE WE, YOU HAD ASKED THAT IF WE HAD A STAFF PRESENTATION? WE DO NOT SINCE THE, THE ITEM WAS REQUESTED BY THE MAYOR. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE ITEMS IN THE AGENDA THAT SH UM, THAT ARE COPIES OF OUR CODE THAT SHOW THAT WHEN COUNSEL CAN INITIATE A STREET NAME CHANGE AND THERE IS ALSO A MAP IN THERE THAT SHOWS, UM, THE SECTION OF STREET THAT, THAT WAS INITIALLY DIS BROUGHT UP. OKAY. SO MAYOR, I GOT A QUESTION. GO AHEAD SIR. YOU WERE GOING, YOU'RE THE PRESENTER ON THIS, YOU BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL. WERE YOU PLANNING ON USING, UH, MS. STIFFER OR ANY OF OUR STAFF FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO HELP YOU ALONG WITH THE MAP AND, AND EXPLAIN? WELL, JUST TO PRESENT THE MAP, THAT'S ALL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. SO YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GO UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT OR DO YOU WANT TO GO WITH NUMBER 18? I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY, GO AHEAD MA'AM. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO LET YOU AND POSSIBLY THE GHOST OF CHARLIE KIRK KNOW THAT AS A BLACK WOMAN, I HAVE BRAND CAPACITY AS A BLACK WOMAN THAT VOTES IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. WE WILL NOT FORGET BECAUSE THIS IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. THIS MAN WAS A VOWEL HUMAN BEING. EVERY TIME HE OPENED HIS MOUTH, HE SPED HATRED. AND, BUT TO HAVE YOU OR ANYBODY PUT HIS NAME ANYWHERE NEAR DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. IS A CYCLAGE. AND Y'ALL OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED AND YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED FOR BRINGING IT BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TO NAME A STREAK. AFTER THIS GUY, HE CALLED BLACK PEOPLE THUGS JUST FROM BEING BLACK. HE WAS THE THUG. HIS OWN HUBRIS KILLED HIM. HE WAS KILLED BECAUSE HE PRAYED ON THE PEOPLE THE, HE WAS KILLED. BY THE PEOPLE THAT HE PRAYED ON. HIS, HIS SPEW OF HATRED FOUND FERTILE GROUND AND JUST WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO REACH, WHICH WAS A YOUNG WHITE MALE ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS. MEN THAT AREN'T MATURE ENOUGH TO KNOW YET MEN THAT HE COULD EASILY MANEUVER, MEANT THAT HE COULD CONTROL THEIR MINDS. AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID. HE SPEWED VIOLENCE. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY TODAY, TO DATE, THERE ARE FOUR YOUNG BLACK MEN THAT HAVE BEEN HUNG, HUNG. YOU DON'T SEE THAT ON THE NEWS. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A MAN THAT DIDN'T WANNA FEED CHILDREN THAT WERE HUNGRY IN PUBLIC SCHOOL. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A MAN THAT SAID IT WAS OKAY TO LOSE SOME CHILDREN SO HE COULD ENJOY THE RIGHTS OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT, WHICH WE ALL UNDERSTAND. BUT HE WAS OKAY WITH IT. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT ON THE SAME DAY AS HE WAS SHOT, THERE WAS A MASS SHOOTING AT ANOTHER SCHOOL IN COLORADO. NOBODY MENTIONED THAT. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT Y'ALL THINK IT'S OKAY TO NAME A STREET IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. I'M A LIFETIME RESIDENT. I WAS BORN HERE, MY PARENTS WERE BORN HERE. MY GREAT-GRANDMOTHER HAD THE FIRST ROOMING HOUSE ON AT THE RAILROAD. THERE'S A, A SIGNATURE SIGN UP THERE DESCRIBING WHAT SHE DID. NAME A STREET AFTER HER. MARTHA ANN HANKINS. LET'S ROAD, LET'S HAVE SANDRA BLAND AVENUE. LET'S HAVE GEORGE FLOYD STREET. THOSE ARE PEOPLE. CHARLIE KIRK WAS FOR WHITE PEOPLE ONLY. AND YOU KNOW IT, YOU KNOW, HE SAID IT EVERY TIME HE OPENED HIS MOUTH. HE WAS EVIL. HE SPED EVIL AND HE MIGHT BE IN HELL RIGHT NOW FOR ALL WE KNOW. 'CAUSE EVERYTHING HE SAID WAS DISGUSTING AND BAD. THANK YOU MA. IT'S MORE THAN DISGUSTING. [01:10:01] THANK FOR FOR THE PEOPLE WITH THE GAY BANG STAY. HEY, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALRIGHT. OKAY. HEY EVERYONE RE REMEMBER WE WILL HAVE ORDER. I KNOW THERE'S JUST . MA'AM, I WILL HAVE YOU REMOVED IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ORDER. I'M JUST, I'M GONNA ASKING NICELY FOR ORDER. PLEASE MA'AM. EVERYBODY. THAT'S EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S ENOUGH TENSION IN HERE, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER. SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE OVER TO ITEM NUMBER 18. OKAY. GIMME A MOMENT 'CAUSE WE'RE MOVING IN. THIS IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION REGARDING THE RENAMING OF CYPRESS AVENUE TO CHARLIE KIRK LANE. UM, GO AHEAD AND REPORT. NOT THIS IS ACTUALLY MY COUNCIL ITEM AND WE HAVE STAFF, UH, PUT UP THE, UH, INFORMATION OR THE, THE STREET FOR ITEM NUMBER 18. CAN YOU PULL UP THE, I DON'T THE MAP THAT WAS IN THE AGENDA. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND START THIS. SO BEFORE I START THIS, I WANNA LET YOU KNOW IS MAYOR, ONE THING I BELIEVE IN IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT. AND AS THE MAYOR, WHEN PEOPLE, MANY PEOPLE FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO CANCEL THE SPACE COAST PRIDE, I FOUGHT AGAINST THAT. AND I FOUGHT FOR THE SPACE COAST PRIDE AND THEIR RIGHTS TO EXIST, THEIR RIGHTS FOR FREE SPEECH. UM, AND, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. UM, AND I THINK ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN AROUND HERE LONG ENOUGH KNOWS THAT, UM, AND AGAIN, IT THE RIGHT TO PREACH, PREACH THERE. THERE'S WHITMAR EVENTS IN IT GOES IN TO SAY THAT THE SAME RIGHTS THAT GIVE, UM, US CHRISTIANS, AND I'LL SAY US CHRISTIANS, A RIGHT TO PRACTICE OUR FAITH GIVES THE FAITH COAST PRIDE A RIGHT TO EXIST. AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IF WE DON'T LIKE THE MESSAGE, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO. WE HAVE A RIGHT, WE HAVE A RIGHT AND, AND, AND I CALL ON, IT'S OUR PASTORS. OUR PASTORS ARE OUT THERE PREACHING A WORD. EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT SPEECH. AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT CHARLIE KIRK BELIEVED. AND CHARLIE KIRK, IF YOU WATCH SOME OF HIS VIDEOS, YOU KNOW, HE, WHETHER AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF TAKEN OUTTA CONTEXT AND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. AND I'M GONNA GO INTO THIS GOOD EVENING TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, VISITORS, AND THE, THOSE WATCHING ON THE INTERNET TO GET TODAY, WE GATHERED HONOR THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF CHARLIE KIRK BY DISCUSSING THE RENAMING OF A SECTION OF CYPRESS AVENUE AND HIS MEMORY. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT A NEW SIGN ON THE STREET CORNER, IT'S ABOUT RECOGNIZING THE IMPACT ONE INDIVIDUAL CAN HAVE ON A COMMUNITY, A GENERATION, AND A NATION. CHARLIE KIRK DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO ENCOURAGING CIVIL, CIVIC PARTICIPATION, FREE EXPRESSION AND POLITICAL ENGAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE. THROUGH HIS WORK, HE INSPIRED A NEW GENERATION TO TAKEN AN ACTIVE ROLE IN SHAPING THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY. WHETHER YOU AGREED WITH HIM OR NOT, CHARLIE WAS SOMEONE WHO BELIEVED IN THE POWER OF IDEAS, THE NECESSITY OF OPEN DIALOGUE, AND THE COURAGE TO STAND FOR ONE'S CONVICTIONS. HIS LIFE ENDED THROUGH EXECUTION IN FRONT OF THE WORLD AND WORSE HIS WIFE AND KIDS. BUT HIS MESSAGE CONTINUES TO, UH, RESONATE ACROSS AMERICA. WHO IS CHARLIE KIRK? CHARLIE KIRK IS THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF TURNING POINT USA, A NATIONAL STUDENT MOVEMENT DEDICATED TO IDENTIFYING, ORGANIZING, AND EMPOWERING YOUNG PEOPLE. PROMOTE THE PRO, PROMOTE THE PRINCIPLES OF FREE MARKET AND LIMITED GOVERNMENT WITH A PRESENCE OF OVER 3000 HIGH SCHOOLS IN COLLEGE CAMPUSES NATIONWIDE. OVER 650,000 LIFELONG STUDENT MEMBERS AND 450 FULL AND PART-TIME STAFF ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. TURNING POINT USA IS THE LARGEST AND FASTEST GROWING CONSERVATIVE YOUTH ORG ACTIVIST ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY, HAD JUST 30 YEARS OLD. CHARLIE HAS DONE THOUSANDS OF MEDIA APPEARANCES. CHARLIE WAS PREVIOUSLY NAMED TO THE FORBES 30 UNDER 30 LIST AND WAS THE YOUNGEST SPEAKER AT THE 2016 REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION, AS WELL AS AN OPENING SPEAKER AT THE 2020 RNC. HE'S THE AUTHOR OF FOUR BOOKS. INCLUDE THE NUMBER ONE AMAZON AND NEW YORK'S TIME BESTSELLER. REMEMBER, THIS IS BEFORE THE AGE OF 30. HIS SOCIAL MEDIA REACHES OVER 100 MILLION PEOPLE PER MONTH. AND AXIS HAS LISTED CHARLIE AS THE TOP 10 MOST ENGAGED HANDLES IN THE WORLD. CHARLIE IS THE HOST OF THE CHARLIE KIRK SHOW PODCAST, WHICH WAS DOWNLOADED OVER [01:15:01] 120 MILLION TIMES IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS AND REGULARLY RANKS AMONG THE TOP 10 SHOWS ON APPLE NEWS PODCAST CHART. THE CHARLIE KIRK SHOW IS ABOUT IS ALSO A NATIONAL SYNDICATE LIVE RADIO SHOW HEARD ON 150 RADIO STATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND IF SIMULCAST REAL AMERICA'S VOICE NEWS COLLECTIVELY, THE CAR CHARLIE KIRK SHOW IS LISTENED TO AND WATCHED AND STREAMED BY AN AUDIENCE OF OVER 1 MILLION PEOPLE A DAY BY NAMING THE ROAD AFTER CHARLIE KIRK. WE ARE NOT JUST HONORING A MAN, WE ARE AFFIRMING A SET OF PRINCIPLES, FREE SPEECH FOR EVERYBODY, FAMILY, FAITH, CIVIC DUTY, AND IMPORTANCE OF STANDING FIRM IN OUR BELIEFS, AND EVEN IN THE FACE OF DISAGREEMENT. OKAY, WHY THIS ROAD? CYPRESS ROAD NOW IS CUT IN HALF WITH THE MEDIAN INSTALLED ON ALI BOULEVARD, THE SEC, THE SOUTH SECTION THAT WOULD BE RENAMED AS SUPPORTED BY MANY BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE NEARBY AREA, INCLUDING AJ HIRES SCOTT SORENSON, SCOTT GLOVER, THE REESE FAMILY WHO OWNS A COUPLE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, CJ JOHNSON, WHO OWNED BUSINESSES AND LIVES NEARBY, AS WELL AS THE LARGEST LANDOWNER ON THAT STREET ON CYPRESS AVENUE. JEFF AGAN, WHO OWNED THE OLD BANK OF AMERICA PROPERTY. HE STATED TO ME HE WOULD BE HONORED TO HAVE THE PROPERTY WHERE HIS STREET AT RENAMED CHARLIE KIRK LANE. CHARLIE KIRK'S STORY CHALLENGES US TO SPEAK WITH CONVICTION AND TO LISTEN WITH RESPECT AND TO WORK TOGETHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY STRONGER. THIS IS NOT JUST A TRIBUTE TO CHARLIE KIRK, BUT A CALL TO ACTION THAT EACH OF US LIVE WITH PURPOSE, SERVE WITH INTEGRITY, AND WORK FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY AND COUNTRY. THANK YOU. MAY GOD BLESS OUR CITY, OUR STATE, AND THE UNITED STATES. REMEMBER, WE ARE STILL ALL AMERICANS AND WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON COMING TOGETHER AND UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL DIFFERENT WHETHER WE AGREE OR NOT. WE NEED TO HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE, AND THAT'S WHAT CHARLIE BELIEVED IN. WE GONNA VOTE YOU OUT. OKAY, SO NOW IF YOU WERE LOOK AT THE STREET AGAIN. I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN, IN A COUPLE STREET RENAMINGS AND, AND I WILL TELL YOU A A LOT OF THINGS COME, UH, INTO PLAY LIKE FINANCIAL IMPACT. UH, AJ HIRES HAS OFFERED TO PAY ANY FEE THAT WOULD, WOULD, UH, UH, BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. PLUS IT WOULD BE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ARE, ARE AFFECTED. AGAIN, THE LARGEST LANDOWNER THAT OWNS HALF OF IT ON ONE SIDE SAYS HE WOULD LIKE, WOULD LIKE THAT. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE MAIN REASON AGAIN. AND PLUS CYPRESS IS NOW SEPARATED WITH THE MEDIUM FOR YEARS, YOU COULD JUST GO ACROSS ALI BOULEVARD AND, AND, AND YOU CAN NO LONGER DO THAT. SO YOU HAVE TECHNICALLY A SOUTH CYPRESS AND, AND A NORTH CYPRESS AVENUE. SO THAT, THAT'S THE MAIN REASON, UM, I THINK THIS ROAD, AND NOT TO MENTION IT'S NEAR THE BUSIEST INTERSECTION IN, IN BBAR ALI AND IN US ONE. SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION, UH, FOR OUR COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE'D, WE'D BE INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING THAT. MAYOR, MA'AM, HOW MANY PUBLIC, HOW MANY COMMENTS DO WE HAVE FROM, HOW MANY PUBLIC COMMENTS DO WE HAVE? 23. I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THEM FIRST. OKAY. YOU WANNA DO THAT? I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. OKAY. WE'LL START WITH THAT. WE'LL START WITH CHRISTOPHER DEMURO, FOLLOWED BY WENDY HICKSON. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRIS DERO. I LIVE ON MANCHESTER DRIVE IN ROCKLEDGE. I'M A SENIOR AT FLORIDA TECH. WHEN I LEARNED THAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE WAS CONSIDERING RENAMING CYPRESS AVENUE TO CHARLIE, KIRK LANE, FRANKLY I WAS EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED, BUT I FEEL THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONSIDER DOING THIS, YOU SHOULD KNOW PRECISELY WHAT CHARLIE KIRK STOOD FOR. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HONOR HIM, YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND, AS ANOTHER SPEAKER SAID, THE QUOTE UNQUOTE WHOLESOME VALUES OF THE MAN YOU'RE CHOOSING TO HONOR. ON APRIL 5TH, 2023, CHARLIE KIRK TOLD A CROWD OF PEOPLE AT AN EVENT SPONSORED BY HIS TURNING POINT USA NONPROFIT THAT IT IS WORTH HAVING GUN DEATHS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT. IN OTHER WORDS, HE THOUGHT THE CHILDREN SHOULD DIE IN SCHOOL SHOOTINGS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN OWN THEIR OWN PERSONAL FIREARMS. AMEN. ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023, CHARLIE KIRK CLAIMED IN A SPEECH THAT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE ARE A THROBBING MIDDLE FINGER TO GOD. AMEN. ON AUGUST 29TH, 2023, ON AN EPISODE OF THE CHARLIE KIRK SHOW, HE CALLED TRANSGENDER PEOPLE, QUOTE, NEUROTIC FREAKS, AND CALLED FOR ONE TRANS WOMAN TO BE IMPRISONED JUST FOR TRYING TO JOIN A SORORITY ON HER COLLEGE CAMPUS IN DECEMBER OF 2023 AT A CONVENTION CALLED AMERICA FEST. HE CLAIMED THAT QUOTE, WE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE WHEN WE PASSED THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964. [01:20:01] ON APRIL 16TH, 2024, HE CALLED THAT SAME LAW A ANTI-WHITE WEAPON. DURING AN EPISODE OF HIS SHOW ON TOO MANY OCCASIONS TO COUNT, HE PROMOTED THE CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT JEWS ARE TRYING TO REPLACE WHITE AMERICANS. A THEORY THAT ORIGINATED WITH NAZIS IN 1930S GERMANY EARLIER THIS YEAR, HE CLAIMED ABORTION IS WORSE THAN THE HOLOCAUST DURING A COLLEGE CAMPUS RALLY. THE WORST PART IS THAT THIS IS NOT AT ALL AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF HIS ABHORRENT BELIEFS. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR, CHARLIE KIRK DID NOT DESERVE TO BE KILLED FOR HIS BELIEFS OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON. BUT HE IS NOT A MAN WHO DESERVES TO BE HONORED EITHER WITH A STREET NAME OR IN ANY OTHER WAY. HIS BELIEFS WERE INCREDIBLY DEGRADING TO MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, INCLUDING YOUR OWN CONSTITUENTS. NOW IF ANYONE HERE BELIEVES THAT I HAVE TAKEN THESE QUOTES OUT OF CONTEXT OR HAVE MISQUOTED HIM, I HAVE COPIES FOR EACH AND EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OF MY SOURCELESS WITH THE ACTUAL VIDEOS OF ALL OF THE CLOTHES THAT I PULLED FOR YOU HERE TONIGHT. THESE COMMENTS THAT HE MADE ARE INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE TO SO MANY AMERICANS, INCLUDING YOUR OWN CONSTITUENTS. MY OWN GIRLFRIEND, MY OWN PARTNER IS A TRANSGENDER WOMAN. AND LOOK AT WHAT HE SAID ABOUT HER AND OTHERS LIKE HER. THIS WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE ACT AND WOULD IMPLY THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU SITTING HERE TONIGHT STANDS FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE OPINIONS THAT HE STATED. BOTH THESE AND SO MANY OTHER HATEFUL OPINIONS LIKE THESE. I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER INDEFINITELY SHELVING THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU, WENDY. WENDY SSON, FOLLOWED BY TERRY HAGY. I ALREADY SPOKE. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UH, TERRY HAG HA. I BELIEVE YEAH, YOU DID. GOOD JOB. FIRST TIME FOLLOWED BY AMY KAKI. BEAR WITH ME. I HAVE BAD EYES. MR. MAYOR, YOU PUT FORWARD THIS IDEA OF STREET RENAMING AS AN AFFIRMATION OF FREE SPEECH AND HISTORICALLY CONSISTENT WITH YOUR EFFORTS TO RENAME MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD. LET'S TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO AGAIN RECAP CHARLIE'S HATE-FILLED SPEECH. HE WAS A PROPONENT OF THE REPLACEMENT THEORY. WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT HE ALSO ACCUSED JEWISH PHILANTHROPISTS OF FOMENTING WHITE ANTI WHITENESS BY SUPPORTING LIBERAL ANTI-RACISM CAUSES LIKE BLACK LIVES MATTER. THE PHILOSOPHICAL FOUNDATION OF ANTI WHITENESS HAS BEEN LARGELY FINANCED BY JEWISH DONORS IN THIS COUNTRY. CHARLIE SAID, MR. KIRK FREQUENTLY DISMISSED CONCERNS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. HE SAID, WHOOPS. HE SAID INCORRECTLY. THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS ON GLOBAL WARMING. HE REJECTED THE IDEA THAT CLIMATE CHANGE POSED AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO HUMANITY. I THINK THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN FLORIDA ON THE COAST KNOW THAT'S CRAP. AMEN. HAVING AN HAVING AN ARMED CARY CITIZENRY COMES WITH A PRICE THAT'S PART OF LIBERTY. WE'VE HEARD THIS ALREADY, THAT HE THOUGHT SACRIFICE FOR GUN OWNERSHIP WAS ACCEPTABLE. 48,000 AMERICANS DIED LAST YEAR IN SACRIFICE TO THAT BELIEF. 100,000 WERE INJURED IN THAT BELIEF, UNTOLD MILLIONS OF SMALL CHILDREN ARE TRAUMATIZED BY HAVING THEIR, THEIR GUN SAFETY DRILLS IN SCHOOL. WE DIDN'T DO THAT WHEN I WAS A KID. IT WAS JUST NUCLEAR WEAPONS. WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT . IF I SEE A BLACK PILOT, THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES AS A FREQUENT FLYER. IF I SEE A BLACK PILOT, I'M GONNA BE LIKE, BOY, I HOPE HE'S QUALIFIED. WHAT? BOY, KEEP GETTING FAST FORWARDED HERE. SO WHY DID MR. KIRK MAKE THESE OUTRAGEOUS AND OFTEN FALSE CLAIMS? THAT'S WHAT PODCASTERS AND INFLUENCERS DO IN ORDER TO GENERATE CLICKS AND RAISE MONEY. HE WAS NO MORE THAN THAT. MR. KIRK RAISED MONEY FROM WEALTHY BENEFACTORS AND ADVERTISERS BY DELIVERING INFLAMMATORY CONTENT. WHEN HE DIED, HIS ESTATE WAS ESTIMATED TO BE WORTH $12 MILLION. MARTIN LUTHER KING'S ESTATE ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN, WHEN CONTRASTED WITH TODAY'S DOLLARS WAS WORTH $250,000. HE GAVE HIS MONEY TO CHARITY. HIS $50,000 NOBEL PRIZE WAS DONATED TO CHURCH GROUPS. DR. KING FOUGHT FOR THE UNDERSERVED, THE UNDERPRIVILEGED, AND THOSE IN NEED. CHARLIE KIRK PUSHED THOSE SAME GROUPS DOWN FURTHER IN ORDER TO HELP HIMSELF AND OTHERS OF PRIVILEGE. IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD ONLY ADD IF THE DECISION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS STREET NAMING, [01:25:01] I HOPE THE PROCESS TAKES THE SAME 51 YEARS. WOO. AMY KAMINSKI. NO, IT WAS NOT. I SAW THAT TOO. THAT WAS WRONG. HE WENT UP TO SOMEBODY JUST TO GIVE HIM A LITTLE FINGER TO HIS FACE. YEAH, YEAH. THE, THE MAN WITH THE GRAY HAIR, THE MAN WHO JUST SPOKE JUST WENT UP TO SOMEBODY IN THE CROWD. OKAY. OKAY. LISTEN AGAIN. I WILL HAVE ORDER IF YOU, IF YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN, YOU ARE OUTTA HERE. I'M NOT PLAYING GAMES HERE, BARBARA. OR I'M SORRY. UH, GO AHEAD MA'AM. HI, I AM AMY KAMINSKY FROM MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FRANKLY, IT IS APPALLING THAT YOU WOULD EVEN CONSIDER NAMING A STREET AFTER CHARLIE KIRK, NO MATTER WHO PAYS FOR IT. ALTHOUGH IT IS HORRIFYING AND WRONG THAT HE IS DEAD AND MY HEART ACHES FOR HIS CHILDREN. CHARLIE KIRK WAS A WHITE NATIONALIST. HE SPEWED HATEFUL MESSAGES OF RACIAL AND POLITICAL DIVIDE UNDER THE GUISE OF CHRISTIANITY AND WORSE PATRIOTISM. HE HAD A HIT LIST. FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, PLEASE RESEARCH AND ACTUALLY LISTEN TO ALL OF HIS SPEECHES AND WATCH HOW HE TREATED THOSE WHO DISAGREED WITH HIM. HIS HATE RAN FAR AND WIDE. HE IS NO MORE A PATRIOT THAN SHOCK TALK HOST HOWARD STERN NAME, A STREET AFTER JOHN MCCAIN, MALALA, ROSA PARKS MANDELA, THE NINE 11 FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS. THEY ARE WORTHY OF A DAILY DRIVE REMINDER OF PATRIOTISM AND COURAGE. THEY WERE AND ARE FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF ALL. CHARLIE KIRK WAS NOT AS A GROUP, YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS TO FOCUS ON. OUR CITY IS A MESS. OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS FAILING FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE UNDERFUNDED. DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE IS DIRTY AND UNSAFE. OUR ROADS FLOOD AND ARE HAZARDOUS WITH THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF RAIN. ANY ROAD WORK DONE CURRENTLY IS THE EQUIVALENT OF I FOUR TOO LITTLE TOO LATE. WE NEED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB AND LOOK OUT FOR ALL OF MELBOURNE. DR. KING JR. ONCE SAID, HATE BEGETS HATE. THOSE WORDS CANNOT RING MORE TRUE. AND SPEAK TO WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR CITY, OUR STATE, AND OUR COUNTRY TODAY. WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT CITY LEADERSHIP, POSSIBLY PROMOTING SOMEONE WHO PROMOTED HATE? THE STREET NAME CHANGE IN KIRK'S HONOR SHOULD BE DENIED AND NOT REVISITED. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. THANK, THANK YOU MA'AM. BONNIE, UH, BARBARA. BONNIE IDA. HUH? I ALREADY SPOKE. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. GRETCHEN ZIEGLER, FOLLOWED BY RHONDA ELKINS. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M A VETERAN AND A 20 YEAR RESIDENT OF BREVARD COUNTY NOW RECITING IN MELBOURNE. AND I DON'T RECOGNIZE MY COMMUNITY ANYMORE. THE SHOCKING DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK DREW NATIONWIDE ATTENTION TO HIS DIVISIVE VIEWS ON POLITICS AND SOCIETY. IT'S NOTHING NEW FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE TO SOCIAL MEDIA TO ESPOUSE THEIR VIEWS ON ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES. AND CHARLIE KIRK WAS NO DIFFERENT. MANY DISAGREED WITH HIS RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, AND MISOGYNIST RANTS. BUT UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF OUR CONSTITUTION, THIS DOES NOT MATTER. I TOOK AN OATH WHEN I JOINED THE MILITARY, ONE THAT NEVER EXPIRES. I MAY NOT AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU THINK. WHICH BRINGS ME TO KAYLEE LAMB, OWNER OF LAMB AND CO FISH MONGERS. WHEN CHARLIE KIRK WAS KILLED, MS. LAMB MADE A POST ON HER PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE THAT OUR MAYOR TOOK OFFENSE TO. IN RETALIATION, THE MAYOR POSTED NOT AGAINST HER, BUT AGAINST HER BUSINESS. WOW. MS. LAMB ALMOST IMMEDIATELY DELETED THE POST AND APOLOGIZED. WOW. BUT BY THEN THE HARM TO HER BUSINESS WAS DONE. WOW. A MAYOR'S WORDS CARRY WEIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY IN WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PUBLIC ATTEMPT AT DAMAGE CONTROL. THE MAYOR VISITED LA AND CO, WHERE BOTH PARTIES APOLOGIZED. AND MAYOR ALFRE MADE ANOTHER POST THIS TIME IN SUPPORT OF HER BUSINESS. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE END OF IT. BUT AS WE KNOW THIS AFTERNOON, ITEM [01:30:01] 18 IS STILL HERE ON THE AGENDA. IF THE MAYOR IS INTENT ON RENAMING A STREET, BREVARD COUNTY HAS NO SHORTAGE OF REAL HEROES. PEOPLE IN OUR OWN BACKYARD WHOSE SERVICE HAS FORG HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN. CHARLIE KIRK HAD ZERO TIES TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE RE COUNTY, OR EVEN THE STATE. FLORIDA. RENAMING THE VERY STREET ON WHICH LAMIN COMPANY RESIDES IS A CHILDISH AND PETTY ATTEMPT TO USE A MAN'S DEATH AND A FAMILY'S GRIEF TO PUNISH A WELL-REGARDED MEMBER OF MELBOURNE'S BUSINESS COMMUNITY FOR THE CRIME OF SPEAKING HER MIND. WOW. ELECTED OFFICE. ELECTED OFFICE COMES WITH GREAT RESPONSIBILITY. A GOOD LEADER BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER AND FOSTERS COMMUNITY COMPROMISE AND UNITY. RENAMING THIS STREET INSTEAD, WOULD NO DOUBT FURTHER DIVIDE US. IT'S AN IRRESPONSIBLE USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS AND IT IGNORES BEST PRACTICE OF OBTAINING THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY BEFORE RECKLESSLY ACTING ON A WHIM. WHEN MAYOR EY PUBLICLY CHASTISED ONE OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, HE CROSSED A LINE SENDING A MESSAGE THAT MELBOURNE IS NOT BUSINESS FRIENDLY. I SINCERELY HOPE THIS VIEW IS NOT SHARED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS CITY. COUNCIL TONIGHT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT MELBOURNE IS THE LITTLE CITY WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF. GRETCHEN LER. GRETCHEN LER. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. RHONDA ELKIN FOLLOWED BY AND UNLESS YOU WANNA HEAR FROM ME AGAIN? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY. UH, RICK BIEBER FOLLOWED BY EDWARD DAVIS AND WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WHO'S UP? WHO'S UP? I'M DAVIS. SHALL I GO? YEP. YEAH. UH, EDWARD DAVIS. YES, GO AHEAD. I'M EDWARD DAVIS. I'M A CITIZEN HERE IN MELBOURNE. UH, I LIVE OVER IN FRONT FRONT STREET. I'LL BE BRIEF ECHOING WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID HERE. I'M HERE TO OPPOSE NAMING A STREET HONORING CHARLIE KIRK. THIS HONOR SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR NATIONAL HEROES AND PEOPLE WHO, AND LOCAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENTS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS. CHARLIE KIRK IS NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. UH, IF YOU WANT TO PROMOTE UNITY, THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. WE'VE HEARD THE DIVISIVE, UH, COMMENTS HERE. I THINK NAMING A STREET AFTER CHARLIE KIRK WOULD ENCOURAGE SOME OF THESE VILE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD TONIGHT. AND I URGE YOU TO, TO NOT TO DO THIS. STOP IT. SO IT SAYS, BRIE JUST SAYS BRIE FROM CEDAR BAY, STANLEY. HI. FOLLOWED BY ANNA FROM PALM BAY. OKAY. UM, THERE WE GO. HI, MY NAME'S BREE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THE, I WANNA START WITH JUST LIKE THE AMOUNT OF HOMOPHOBIA AND HATE IN THE ROOM IS CRAZY TO ME. UM, MOVING ON THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE CYPRESS AVE, CHARLIE KIRK AVE, OR STREET WAS IT? UM, JUST, IT NEEDS TO BE DENIED FOR SO MANY REASONS, MANY REASONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN HIT. I'M SURE I'LL REPEAT THEM. UM, FIRSTLY, BEING DISGUSTED BY SOMEONE DOESN'T MEAN I'M GLAD OR THAT THEY DESERVE TO DIE. PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR OPINIONS AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE KILLED FOR THEIR OPINIONS. EVEN IF THEY'RE A BIT UNPOPULAR OR CONTROVERSIAL TO OTHER PARTIES, IT DOESN'T MEAN HE DESERVED IT. UM, BUT INSTEAD OF HONORING KIRK, I WILL BE OBSERVING A LIFETIME OF SPEAKING OUT AGAINST BIGOTRY AND INTENTIONAL DIVISION. THE WAY YOU DIE DOES NOT HONOR THE WAY YOU LIVE. IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SPEAK KINDLY OF YOU AFTER YOU'RE GONE, YOU NEED TO SPEAK KINDLY AND WITH MORAL CLARITY. IF THIS IS ABOUT HONORING VICTIMS OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY A PODCASTER OVER AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, SUCH AS MELISSA HORTMAN, HER HUSBAND AND HER DOG, IF THIS IS ABOUT HONORING VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE IN SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY A PODCASTER OVER ANY OF THE CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED, WHY NOT HARPER MOKI OR FLETCHER MERKEL OR ANY OF THE OTHER VICTIMS FROM THE OTHER 160 K THROUGH 12 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS THIS YEAR? WHY [01:35:01] NOT THEM? UM, AND THEN WHY NOT SOMETHING, OR SOMEONE THAT DIRECTLY HONORS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, FOR EXAMPLE, ENE AVENUE, REFERRING TO THE MELBOURNE BONE BED, A COOL ARCHEOLOGICAL OR OLOGY THING THAT'S LOCAL. UM, OR KOTH WHITE AVENUE, THE FIRST POSTMASTER OF MELBOURNE. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A STREET. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARD OF IT. OR AS MENTIONED, ANY OF OUR LOCAL AND HONORABLE VETERANS WHO I BELIEVE DESERVE MORE RECOGNI RECOGNITION THAN A PODCASTER. UM, I DON'T THINK THIS MAN WAS A REAL ACTUAL DEBATER BY ANY MEANS. HE'S A COLLEGE DROPOUT, RAGE BAITING ILL PREPARED STUDENTS. AND SO BASICALLY HUMILIATING HIMSELF BECAUSE HE'S AT THE TIME TO PREPARE AND HE'S JUST, IT'S JUST CRAZY. UM, AND THIS MAN YOU'RE TRYING TO HONOR, IN MY OPINION, IS A DIVISIVE AND HATEFUL INDIVIDUAL WHO BUILT HIS WEALTH UPON SPEWING THIS HATE AND DIVISION. AND LOOK AT US RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, THIS WHOLE EVENT HAS BEEN VERY DIVISIVE AND VERY TENSE AND WEIRD. AND IT'S LIKE IF HE, HE HAD BEEN A VICTIM AS A CHILD OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT HIM. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE FORGETTING ABOUT ANY VICTIMS OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS OR ANY SORT OF SHOOTINGS, BUT LIKE, WHERE'S, WHAT ABOUT THE LITTLE GIRL AND BOY I MENTIONED, WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM? WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE SO DIVISIVE INSTEAD OF LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF OUR SOCIETY? CHILDREN, WE SHOULD PROTECT THEM INSTEAD OF HONOR SOMEONE WHO THINKS THEY SHOULDA HAVE DESERVED TO DIE. OKAY. BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. SECOND AMENDMENT. ANN IS THERE. ANNA RIGHT HERE. SHE TIED? YEAH, PLEASE. THANK YOU. FOLLOWED BY BRIDGET. I THINK IT O ING. OKAY. GOOD TO GO. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE ON. SWEET. GOOD EVENING, Y'ALL. I'M ANNA HELD. I GREW UP IN MELBOURNE. EVEN THOUGH I LIVE IN PALM BAY NOW. STILL YOUR NEIGHBOR STILL LOVE Y'ALL. UM, I WAS A TWICE DEPLOYED SERVICE MEMBER. UM, AND ON MY FIRST DEPLOYMENT, WE LOST TWO PEOPLE I CARED ABOUT DEARLY. WE LOST TWO PAIR OF RESCUE MEN, BILL POSH AND CARL ENNIS. I THINK YOU KNEW THEM, SIR. UM, IF WE'RE GONNA BE NAMED STREETS AFTER PEOPLE, WHY AREN'T THEY NUMBER ONE ON YOUR LIST? ANOTHER THING, I AM A CHRISTIAN SIR. MY DAD HAD A CHURCH IN PALM BAY THAT HE SERVED FOR 18 YEARS. UM, I'M ALSO PART OF THE L-G-B-T-Q COMMUNITY. I'M HERE. I WAS BORN THIS WAY. MY DAD DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. NOBODY ELSE SHOULD. UM, MY GOD LOVES ME. YES, YES. MY GOD LOVES EVERYONE. MY GOD WOULD NOT HAVE AN ISSUE. PEOPLE CELEBRATING THEIR TIME TOGETHER. I PLAN TO HAVE KIDS AND I WOULD LOVE TO BRING MY KIDS TO AN EVENT WHERE THEY KNOW THEY'RE WELCOMED NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE. I MEAN, DO, DO I NOT COUNT? IS IS CHARLIE KIRK MORE IMPORTANT THAN ME? IS HE MORE IMPORTANT THAN CARL AND S AND BILL POSH? NO, HE'S NOT KILLED IN ACTION. SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY. LOVE THEIR COMMUNITY. WE'RE HERE. WE MATTER. AND I'LL KEEP SAYING THEIR NAME AND I'LL, I'LL ASK YOU TO NAME A ROAD AFTER THEM. AND WHEN WE GET THROUGH ALL OF OUR AMAZING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE HAVE AMAZING PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO PROMOTE LOVE AND CONNECTION AND DIVERSITY. PLEASE, WHEN YOU GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, YOU CAN LOOK AT AMON AT A ROAD AFTER MR. KIRK. UM, BUT DON'T PUT HIM AHEAD OF THOSE PEOPLE. THAT'S NOT FAIR. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THAT'S NOT WHAT MELVIN'S ABOUT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. BUT I HOPE YOU REALLY CONSIDER, I REALLY DO. I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO ME AND I THINK IT WOULD'VE MEANT A LOT TO CARL AND I THINK IT WOULD'VE MEANT A LOT TO BILL POSH. GOOD EVENING, BRIDGET O'LEARY, FOLLOWED BY JABARI HO. HELLO, I'M BRIDGET OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY I DON'T THINK [01:40:01] WE SHOULD RENAME A STREET AFTER CHARLIE KIRK. UH, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID SOME OF THE MORE DIVISIVE THINGS THAT HE HAS SAID, BUT I WANNA TALK ABOUT ANOTHER REASON. UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE MAYOR TO USE CITY POLICY AS A FORM OF RETALIATION, ESPECIALLY AGAINST THE SMALL BUSINESS. TO ADDRESS THIS PROPOSAL. WE MUST ADDRESS WHY YOU SUGGESTED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT'S RIGHT. THE OWNER OF LAMB AND CO FISH MONGERS MADE A POST THAT MANY OF YOU IS INSENSITIVE. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT AND I DIDN'T AGREE WITH CHARLIE KIRK. HOWEVER, UM, YOU RESPONDED BY PROPOSING TO RENAME A STREET, WHILE WE MIGHT BE ANGRY WITH THE, UH, THE POST ITSELF, IT IS NOT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF THE GOVERNMENT TO RENAME A STREET WHERE THIS BUSINESS SITS AS A REMINDER, AS A PUNISHMENT. RIGHT? RIGHT. WHAT TYPE OF PRECEDENT DOES THAT SET? WILL EVERY INSENSITIVE COMMENT THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH TRIGGER A GOVERNMENT RESPONSE? RIGHT. THE IDEA THAT CHARLIE KIRK CHAMPIONED MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE WAS OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF FREE SPEECH. I DIDN'T AGREE WITH HIM ON A LOT. I AGREED WITH HIM ON THAT. AND I DON'T THINK HE WOULD SUPPORT THIS MOVE AT ALL. TO QUOTE HIMSELF, HE SAID, WITHOUT FREE SPEECH, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TRUTH. IF SHE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING INSENSITIVE, IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED. IT IS OUR RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED. WE COULD LET CAPITALISM TAKE CARE OF IT AND NOT SHOP THERE. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE GOVERNMENT RENAMES THE STREET. YOU ALSO SAID THAT RENAMING THE STREET IS TO PROMOTE UNITY. YOU SAID THAT ON YOUR FACEBOOK. I WANNA SEE WHY IS PROMOTING SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW IS DIVISIVE? YOU ARE LISTENING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT AGREE AND HAVE BEEN HURT BY WHAT HE SAYS. HOW IS THAT UNITY WHEN WE ARE ON SPACE COAST? WE COULD NAME SOMETHING AFTER THE CHALLENGER, AFTER OUR SPACE FORCE VETERANS, AFTER OUR AIR FORCE VETERANS, AFTER YOUR GRANDMOTHER . WHAT IF YOU REALLY WANNA PROMOTE UNITY, I THINK WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT. UM, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. I WANT THIS COMMUNITY TO BE SOMETHING I CAN TAKE PRIDE IN. IF WE'RE GONNA RENAME STREET, PLEASE LET IT BE SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE PRIDE IN. THANK YOU. JABARI HOEY, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER BACHELOR. ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MELBOURNE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JABBARI HOSEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BREVARD COUNTY DEMOCRATIC BLACK CAUCUS. DESPITE THE TRAGIC EVENTS OF CHARLIE KIRK'S MURDER, UH, THE MAYOR IS PROPOSING, UH, TO HONOR HIM BY RENAMING A PORTION OF CYPRESS STREET. I COULD GO THROUGH THE MANY AWFUL STATEMENTS AGAIN THAT SO MANY HAVE REITERATED, SO I'M NOT GONNA WASTE THE TIME DOING THAT. UM, BUT HIS STATEMENTS ARE JUST AS HARMFUL, UNTRUE, AND DIVISIVE AS POSSIBLE. THE REMARKS BY MR. KIRK THAT YOU SHOULDN'T REPRESENT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE NOR PROMOTE AN INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT. ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2 20 22, MAYOR ALFRE MADE A POWERFUL STATEMENT DURING DISPUTE OVER AT A MELBOURNE PRIDE FESTIVAL. HE SAID, FLORIDA STATE REPRESENTATIVE RANDY FINES, ATTACKS ON OUR LOCAL SPACE COAST PRIDE GROUP IS UN-AMERICAN. AND AS A REPUBLICAN AND CONSERVATIVE MAYOR, I AM ABSOLUTELY APPALLED. AS STATE REPRESENTATIVE FINES PLAN TO ATTACK OUR SPACE COAST PRIDE COMMUNITY TO FURTHER HIS POLITICAL CAREER, MAYOR ALFRE WENT TO ON TO CRITICIZE FINES, USE OF CAMPAIGN FUNDS FOR MASS TEXT MESSAGES AND MISINFORMATION TO PERSONAL CELL PHONES. AND NOTED THAT IT'S CLEAR HIS GOAL WAS TO ENRAGE OUR COMMUNITY. THIS CURRENT ATTEMPT TO RENAME THE STREET OVER A DISPUTE WITH A BUSINESS OWNER FEELS EERILY SIMILAR. AND THAT PRIOR CONFLICT, THE MAYOR STOOD AGAINST POLITICAL AGITATION. NOW, WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THE MAYOR HAS BECOME THE AGITATOR, SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFICALLY CITY OR ORDINANCE 52 DASH SIX 50 2D STATES THAT CULTURAL HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE TO THE CITY OR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS SHALL BE USED AS GUIDANCE FOR EVALUATING A REQUEST TO RENAME A STREET. GIVEN THAT MR. KIRK HAS NO SUCH CONNECTION TO HIS COMMUNITY OR HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE HERE, THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THAT GUIDELINE. FURTHERMORE, ORDINANCE 52 6 5 OR F TWO F THREE IS EVEN MORE DIRECT. IT REQUIRES THAT ANY PERSON WHOM A STREET IS NAMED MUST HAVE BEEN DECEASED FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. TRAGICALLY, TRAGICALLY, MR. KIRK DIED JUST TWO WEEKS AGO. WHILE THERE MAY BE A DISAGREEMENT ON THE PUBLIC HARM, HIS STATEMENTS CAUSED THE LEGAL ISSUES. HERE IS INDISPUTABLE. THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL FAILS TO MEET THE BASIC CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE, WHICH VIOLATES THE EXISTING CITY ORDINANCE. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CONFIRM THESE FINDINGS, TO PREVENT UNLAWFUL PROPOSAL FROM MOVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS FORWARD. AGAIN, THANK YOU. AND REAL QUICK, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL REFER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, UM, 'CAUSE WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY NAMED A STREET AFTER MR. BRUCE BUGS, WHO IS, IS ALIVE. AND, AND WE DOES CITY COUNCIL HAVE THAT RIGHT? [01:45:02] I WHY ADAMS OR DO YOU WANNA ANSWER? THERE'S, THERE'S SEPARATE PROVISIONS FOR, FOR LIVING INDIVIDUALS. UM, THERE'S ALSO CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS TO, TO SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS WHEN, WHEN THE, UM, REQUEST TO RENAME IS INITIATED BY COUNSEL. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE MORE SPECIFICALLY. SO IT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF POLICY. I OKAY. IN, DO YOU MIND PLEASE? OKAY. I HAVE IT PULLED UP RIGHT HERE. THE, UM, SECTION THREE DOES IN FACT SAY THE PERSON MUST HAVE BEEN DECEASED FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. BUT THEN SECTION FIVE SAYS, IF RENAMING FOR A LIVING PERSON, THE PERSON MUST HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY FOR A PERIOD OF GREATER THAN 25 YEARS, LADIES. BUT THESE ARE ALL GUIDELINES FOR COUNSEL WITH STAFF. WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM AND REPORT BACK. AND IT IS COUNSEL'S PREROGATIVE. NO. OKAY. UH, MR. BATCH. GOOD, GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. I HAVE A SPEECH WRITTEN HERE, BUT I DO WANNA DEVIATE FROM IT A LITTLE BIT, UM, LISTENING TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE QUOTE MR. CHARLIE NEWMAN, UH, AND OFFER YOU ALL JUST TEXT ABOUT WHAT HE SAID. BUT DO YOU KIRK, ARE YOU CHARLIE NEWMAN? GO ON CHARLIE KIRK. HE SAID CHARLIE NEWMAN. I WAS LOOKING AT DAVE NEWMAN WHEN I SAID THAT. SORRY, MR. CHARLIE KIRK NEWMAN ON THE BRAIN. YOU CAN TELL I'M NERVOUS. HE LOOKS LIKE YOUR BROTHER . WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY CAN'T OFFER YOU AN ACTUAL RECORDING. THEY CAN'T OFFER ANY OF YOU A RECORDING OF WHAT MR. KIRK SAID BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU HAVE A, IT'S A QUI. ALRIGHT. IT'S TEXT ANYWAYS, CAN YOU FOCUS ON HERE? OKAY. ANYWAYS. UM, AS FOR THE PARA RESCUE, HAS ANYBODY OFFERED OR PITCHED THE IDEA OF NAMING A ROAD AFTER THEM? YOU CAN'T NAME A ROAD FOR SOMEONE YOU DIDN'T KNOW EXISTED. SO THAT LEADS TO MY NEXT POINT. THEY EXISTED. WHAT? I SERVED WITH 'EM. OH, YOU DID? OKAY. I'M EXCLUDING YOU. I'M SORRY. I'M ALSO A VETERAN AS WELL MYSELF. WOW. OKAY. AND ANYWAYS, OKAY, GO AHEAD. ANYWAYS. SO I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE. THAT WAS THE POINT WITH HIM. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN IT HAPPENED, JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T KNOW HE EXISTED. HE EXISTED. HE WAS A GUY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY, GO AHEAD SIR. ANYWAYS, I GUESS I GOT A MINUTE AND 50 LEFT. NOW I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TODAY IN SUPPORT OF RENAMING THE ROAD AFTER CHARLIE KIRK. FOR ME, CHARLIE KIRK'S BIGGEST IMPACT WASN'T ABOUT WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT, IT WAS HOW HE CHOSE TO ENGAGE. HE BELIEVED IN TALKING IT OUT AND DEBATING IDEAS DIRECTLY. EVEN WHEN THE CONVERSATIONS GOT HEATED, HE STUCK TO THE PRINCIPLE THAT WORDS AND ARGUMENTS NOT FISTS OR VIOLENCE, ARE HOW WE SHOULD HANDLE OUR DIFFERENCES. THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK OUR COUNTRY NEEDS MORE OF RIGHT NOW. WE LIVE IN A TIME WHEN PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN TALK ACROSS THE AISLE WITHOUT IT GETTING UGLY. BUT CHARLIE KIRK'S EXAMPLE WAS THAT DISAGREEMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEAN DISRESPECT AND PASSION DOESN'T HAVE TO SPILL OVER IN HOSTILITY AND IT DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT MORE. WHEN I'M DONE SPEAKING, I WILL CALMLY RETURN TO MY SEAT AND I WILL NOT SCREAM IN SOMEBODY'S FACE. IF THIS ROAD TAKES ITS NAME, IT BECOMES MORE THAN A SIGN ON A STREET CORNER. IT'S A DAILY REMINDER OF THE COMMUNITY VALUES, OPEN DISCUSSION, PEACEFUL ENGAGEMENT, AND THE IDEA THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR RIGHT TO SPEAK THEIR MIND WITHOUT FEAR. SO I'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS, NOT JUST TO HONOR CHARLIE KIRK AS A PERSON, BUT TO HONOR WHAT HE STOOD FOR. THAT BELIEF THAT CONVERSATION IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN CONFLICT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RICKY DIAZ, FOLLOWED BY KAYLEY LAMB. WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS HIS NAME? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RICKY DIAZ. S DIAZ, THAT'S PUERTO RICAN. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE CLAIMING THAT, UH, CHARLIE KIRK ONLY ESPOUSES HIS, HIS RHETORIC TO, TO WHITES, I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A CONSERVATIVE INFLUENCER AND AN ACTIVIST, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY WHO FEELS, WHO DEEPLY VALUES THE PRINCIPLES OF FREE SPEECH, PEACEFUL DIALOGUE, AND THE PRESERVATION OF OUR SHARED VALUES. TONIGHT WE GATHER TO DISCUSS THE RENAMING OF CYPRESS SAP CHARLIE KIRK LANE. THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A CHANGE OF SIGNAGE. IT'S A POWERFUL STATEMENT AND A TRIBUTE TO A MAN WHO DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO DEFENDING OUR VALUES. IMPORTANTLY, THIS CHANGE IS BEING FUNDED BY A PRIVATE CITIZEN, ENSURING THAT DOES NOT BURDEN OUR TAXPAYERS. NOW ON THIS MATTER, I STAND ALONGSIDE MAYOR PAUL RE AND AJ HIRES WHO HAVE BOTH SUPPORTED THE NAME CHANGE. TOGETHER, WE RECOGNIZE THE PROFOUND IMPACT THAT CHARLIE KIRK HAS HAD ON OUR SOCIETY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF ENSURING THAT HIS LEGACY ENDURES. CHARLIE KIRK WAS A TITAN OF OUR TIME, A VOICE OF REASON AND A PILLAR OF STRENGTH. HIS COMMITMENT TO FREE SPEECH AND OPEN DIALOGUE WAS UNWAVERING, INSPIRING MILLIONS, ESPECIALLY THE YOUTH. TO THINK CRITICALLY AND ENGAGE RESPECTFULLY. IN AN ERA WHERE DIVISIVE RHETORIC OFTEN DROWNS OUT THE RECENT DISCOURSE, CHARLIE STOOD AS A BEACON OF LIGHT GUIDING US BACK TO THE PRINCIPLES OF RESPECTFUL DEBATE AND MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING. THE VERY, THE VERY ROAD IN QUESTION SITS SUPPOSED TO BE AN UNNAMED STOREFRONT. SOMEONE ELSE ALREADY DOCKS THEM. BUT ON A STOREFRONT WHERE AN OWNER AND OUR MAYOR HAD A DISAGREEMENT ON A LEGACY OF CHARLIE KIRK. [01:50:01] NOW RATHER THAN FUELING THE DIVIDE, THE TWO MET AND ENGAGED IN CIVILIZED DISCU DISCUSSION PEACEFULLY, RESOLVING, PEACEFULLY RESOLVING THE MATTER. THIS IS WHAT CHARLIE, THIS IS WHAT CHARLIE KIRK STOOD FOR. THIS EXAMPLE EMBODIES THE VALUES THAT CHARLIE KE KIRK ESPOUSED AND RENAMING CYPRUS, UH, REAFFIRMS THE COMMITMENTS TO THEM. IT IS A REMINDER THAT OUR COMMUNITY STANDS FOR SOMETHING GREATER. THE RIGHT TO SPEAK FREELY, THE DUTY TO LISTEN OPENLY AND THE RESOLVE TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE PEACEFULLY. CHARLIE KIRK ONCE SAID, THE FUTURE BELONGS TO THOSE WHO STAND FIRM FOR THEIR BELIEFS. AND AS WE NAVIGATE THE COMPLEXITIES OF OUR TIME, WE MUST REMEMBER CHARLIE'S LESSONS AS WE, AS WE REMAIN AND STAND FIRM. HE TAUGHT US THAT STRENGTH LIES NOT IN SILENCING DISTANCE, BUT IN EMBRACING IT, CHALLENGING IT, ULTIMATELY GROWING FROM IT. IN RENAMING THIS STREET, WE ENSHRINE THESE PRINCIPLES IN THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WE CREATE A LASTING TRIBUTE TO A MAN WHO GAVE HIS LIFE DEFENDING OUR RIGHT TO DISAGREE PEACEFULLY. AND THIS SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE TO OUR YOUTH THAT THEY TOO CAN STAND UP, SPEAK OUT, AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET'S HONOR CHARLIE KIRK BY ENSURING THAT HIS LEGACY ENDURES NOT JUST IN OUR MEMORIES, BUT IN OUR ACTIONS AND IN THE VERY STREETS WE WALK EVERY DAY. LET'S MAKE CHARLIE KIRK LANE A SYMBOL FOR OUR COMMITMENT TO FREEDOM, DIALOGUE, AND THE RELENTLESS PURSUIT OF TRUTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HALEY LAMB, FOLLOWED BY MARTHA. THANK HERP. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KAYLEE LAMB, LAMB AND CO FISH MONGERS. ALSO ALSO FRIEND OF BILL POSH ON SEPTEMBER 15TH AT 12:45 PM THE MAYOR PUBLICLY POSTED ON HIS OFFICIAL MELBOURNE MAYOR FACEBOOK PAGE, A PROPOSAL TO RENAME A SECTION OF CYPRESS AVENUE TO CHARLIE KIRK LANE AS THE ONLY OPERATING BUSINESS ON THIS SECTION OF CYPRESS AVENUE. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO INTERPRET THIS PROPOSAL THAN HAVING A PERSONAL COMPONENT TO IT. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE BROADER IMPLICATIONS OF THIS PROPOSAL, NOT JUST FOR ME AND MY BUSINESS, BUT FOR THE PRECEDENT IT SETS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BUSINESS OWNERS MUST BE ABLE TO TRUST THAT THEIR INVESTMENTS ARE PROTECTED FROM UNPREDICTABLE GOVERNMENT ACTIONS. THIS ISN'T ABOUT ANY INDIVIDUAL OR POLITICAL VIEWPOINT, IT'S ABOUT ESTABLISHING CONSISTENT PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE CITY, WHICH I LOVE. WHEN OFFICIAL CITY COMMUNICATIONS TARGET INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES, IT CREATES UNCERTAINTY FOR OUR ENTIRE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. MELBOURNE HAS 3000 BUSINESSES WITH MORE IN DEVELOPMENT. FINGERS CROSSED. ENTREPRENEURS NEED CONFIDENCE THAT THEIR INVESTMENTS ARE SECURE FROM UNPREDICTABLE GOVERNMENT ACTIONS. I KNOW THERE ARE ME MEMBERS ON THE COUNCIL THAT FEEL THE SAME WAY AS FOR HONORING MR. KIRK. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CITY WILL BE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THAT. I FEEL THAT HONORING OUR COMMUNITY FIGURES IS WORTHY OF MORE OF A THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION. EFFECTIVE TRIBUTE REQUIRES CAREFUL PLANNING AND APPROPRIATE VENUES. I DO HOWEVER, THINK THAT HONORING ANYBODY BY REMAINING ON THE REMAINING SECTION OF CYPRESS AVENUE IS NOT REALLY AN HONOR. IT'S, UH, RUNDOWN, DERELICT BANK, HOMELESS PEOPLE. THERE'S OTHER WAYS YOU COULD HONOR SOMEBODY TO CONCLUDE. I PROPOSE THAT WE USE THIS MOMENT CONSTRUCTIVELY. LET'S ESTABLISH CLEAR PROTOCOLS FOR CIVIC HONORS THAT BRING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER. LET'S ENSURE OUR BUSINESS ENGAGEMENT POLICIES ARE TRANSPARENT AND CONSISTENT. MOST IMPORTANTLY, LET'S DEMONSTRATE THAT MELBOURNE GOVERNS WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND STABILITY THAT ATTRACTS INVESTMENTS AND BUILDS COMMUNITY PRIDE. OVER THE LAST 12 DAYS, I'VE RECEIVED TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FROM SO MANY AMAZING INDIVIDUALS, COMMUNITY GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS, OLD FRIENDS, NEW FRIENDS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOLD UP MS. LAMB. LAMB, MS. LAMB. MS. LAMB, MS. LAMB, MS. LAMB, MS. LAMB, COULD YOU HOP BACK UP HERE? I JUST HAVE [01:55:01] A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. IT'S ONLY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE PUBLIC RECORD OF THE NEWSPAPER. I WANNA MAKE SURE YOUR COMMENTS ARE REFLECTING WHAT THE NEWSPAPER SAID. CAN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? OH, SURE. UM, ON SPECTRUM NEWS 13, IT'S PUBLISHED TODAY. AND THIS IS GONNA HELP ME, YOU KNOW, MAKE MY DECISION. 'CAUSE YOU ARE A BUSINESS OWNER ON THAT STREET. YES, SIR. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS ACCURATE. IT SAYS QUOTE, UM, IT SAYS HERE AT THE LAST LINE ON SPECTRUM NEWS 13 LAMB TOLD THE MAYOR THAT SHE WOULD SUPPORT NAMING CYPRESS AVENUE AFTER CHARLIE KIRK, BUT WOULD ALSO SUPPORT CONSIDERING NAMING AN EVEN BIGGER ROAD IN MELBOURNE AFTER HIM. DO YOU WANT TO SUPPORT A BIGGER ROAD NAMED AFTER CHARLIE KIRK AND NOT YOURS? I OR DO YOU SUPPORT NO ROADS AT ALL? TO CONTRARY TO WHAT THIS STATEMENT SAYS, I I DID SAY THAT. OKAY. UM, IT WAS A BIG DAY FOR ME. THERE WAS A LOT OF AMBUSHING THAT WENT ON IN MY PLACE OF BUSINESS THAT WAS OPENING HOURS. UM, I THINK IF YOU WERE TO HONOR SOMEBODY'S MEMORY, YOU COULD PROBABLY DO IT ON A NICER ROAD THAN MINE. SO YOU WOULD LIKE IT NAMED AFTER ON A BIGGER ROAD THAN YOURS. IS THAT YOUR ANSWER? 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA HELP ME MAKE MY DECISION ON WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. THAT'S FINE. IS THAT YOUR, IS THAT YOUR OPINION? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND, AND, OKAY. NECK, MARTHA HERP, I BELIEVE IT IS FOLLOWED BY PELA. KAA GET MINE, RIGHT? YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE KIND OF WELL KNOWN . UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. UH, I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF CHARLIE KIRK UNTIL THIS ALL THIS HAPPENED. UM, AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED IT UP, I WAS AMAZED. I IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATEMENT THAT THIS WAS ONLY FROM ABOUT TWO HOURS OF SEARCHING, I FACT CHECKED EVERYTHING. EVERY ONE OF THESE STATEMENTS SHOWS A LINK YOU CAN GO TO TO ACTUALLY HEAR HIM SAYING THESE THINGS ON HIS PODCASTS AND, UH, TELEVISED SPEAKING SO THEY ARE NOT TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE NOT ALREADY MENTIONED. WHEN PAUL PELOSI WAS ATTACKED, UH, WITH A GUY WITH A HAMMER IN HIS HEAD, HAD TO HAVE A METAL PLATE PUT IN HIS HEAD, HAD PERMANENT NERVE DAMAGE. THE ATTACKER WANTED TO, UH, TAKE OUT NANCY'S KNEECAPS, BUT SHE WASN'T THERE. THE ATTACKER WAS IN JAIL. CHARLIE KIRK ENCOURAGED HIS FOLLOWERS TO GO PROVIDE THE BAIL AND GET THE GUY OUT OF JAIL THAT THE PERSON WOULD BE A PATRIOT. SO ANYONE WHO SAYS HE WAS ENCOURAGING NON-VIOLENCE, HE WAS SUPPORTING A VIOLENT ATTACKER. UH, HE SAID DEMOCRATS LOVE IT WHEN AMERICA BECOMES LESS WHITE. HE SAID, ALL TRANS-AFFIRMING MEDICAL TREATMENTS SHOULD BE BANNED. HE SAID, A MAN WHO PUTS A WOMAN'S CLOTHES ON IS AN ABOMINATION. AT ONE OF HIS LECTURES, HE TARGETED A SPECIFIC TRANS COLLEGE STUDENT BY NAME AND SAID, THAT PERSON SHOULD BE BULLIED AND IMPRISONED AS FAR AS ALL THIS PEACEFUL STUFF HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. I'VE GOT ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AS TO WHERE TO LOOK THAT UP. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME OR GIVE ME YOUR EII HAVE YOUR, I DID SEND YOU GUYS ALL AN EMAIL. YOU CAN JUST CLICK ON IT AND SEE HIM SAY IT. UM, HE SAID IF A 10-YEAR-OLD GIRL WAS RAPED AND IMPREGNATED, SHE SHOULD BE FORCED TO CARRY THE BABY TO TERM. HE SAID, GAYS ARE NOT HAPPY JUST TO BE MARRIED, BUT THEY WANNA CORRUPT YOUR CHILDREN. HE SAID, BIRTH CONTROL MAKES WOMEN ANGRY AND BITTER. AND ALSO THAT WOMEN OVER 30 ARE NO LONGER ATTRACTIVE TO DATE. HE SAID HE COULDN'T STAND THE WORD EMPATHY. HE THINKS IT'S A NEW AGE MADE UP WORD. HE SAID, HE SAID, DEMOCRAT, WOMEN WANT TO DIE ALONE WITHOUT CHILDREN. HE SAID, THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS A PARTY OF CRIME TRANSFORMING AMERICA INTO A THIRD WORLD HELLHOLE. NOW THIS STATEMENT IN PARTICULAR, THEY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HATE SPEECH RIGHT NOW. I THINK, UM, THEY'RE SAYING THAT PEOPLE, THAT, THAT IF YOU HEAR SOMEONE SAYING HATE SPEECH, YOU SHOULD REPORT THEM TO THEIR EMPLOYER AND GET THEIR JOB. THANK, THANK YOU MA'AM. WE'RE GONNA KIND OF THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THIS PAMELA CASTELLANA FOLLOWED BY ANDRE XAVIER. OH NO, I'VE GOT MY OWN . GOOD EVENING, BLA. UH, FIRST OF ALL, NOT IN MY COMMENTS. MY NAME IS PAMELA CASTELLANA AND I AM PROUD TO BE A VICE CHAIR WITH THE FLORIDA DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND AS WELL AS AN ELECTED [02:00:01] MEMBER OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE. AND THAT DOES PERTAIN. UM, BUT TONIGHT I'M ALSO A VOTING RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. BEFORE I GET INTO MY COMMENTS, UM, THERE IS A PERSON IN THE ROOM RIGHT NOW WHO IS IN COMMUNICATING WITH JEFFREY AGAN, THE OWNER OF THE DERELICT BANK, WHO HAS VERY CLEARLY STATED HE DOES NOT WANNA GET INVOLVED AND DOES NOT HAVE AN OPINION ON THE STREET. HE'S NOT IN FAVOR OF IT OR OPPOSED TO IT. SO THAT WAS A MISREPRESENTATION. UM, HERE IN MELBOURNE, WE HAVE A GOLF COURSE NAMED AFTER SPENCER HOLLAND, A SEGREGATIONIST WHO USE HIS PARENTAL RIGHTS AS AN EXCUSE TO KEEP SCHOOLS DIVIDED BY RACE. HE MEANT PARENTS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO SEGREGATED SCHOOLS. THAT IS WHO OUR CITY CHOSE TO HONOR. WE HAD A STREET CALLED LYNCHING TREE LANE UNTIL THE 1980S. AND IT TOOK DECADES AFTER THAT, BEFORE THE CITY FINALLY HONORED DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. WITH THE STREET NAME. THAT'S OUR HISTORY. AND NOW YOU MAYOR WANNA NAME A STREET AFTER CHARLIE KIRK. NOW, PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM KEEP SAYING HE'S THAT WE NEED TO WATCH HIS REMARKS IN CONTEXT. I PUT TO YOU, THERE IS NO CONTEXT TO WHICH SOME OF THESE REMARKS ARE APPROPRIATE. THIS IS A MAN WHO CALLED DR. KING AWFUL. NOT A GREAT PERSON SAYING KING WAS ADMIRED ONLY BECAUSE HE ONCE SAID SOMETHING HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE. IN REFERENCE TO KING'S FAMOUS, I HAVE A DREAM. IN THAT SAME SPEECH, KIRK CALLED THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964. A HUGE MISTAKE. LET ME REMIND YOU. THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OUTLAWED SEGREGATION IN RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, THEATERS, AND SPORTS ARENAS. IT BANNED EMPLOYERS FROM DISCRIMINATING BASED ON COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN. IT ENFORCED SCHOOL DESEGREGATION AND CUT OFF FEDERAL FUNDS TO PROGRAMS THAT DISCRIMINATED. CHARLIE KIRK SAID ALL OF THAT WAS A MISTAKE, AND YOU WANNA PUT HIS NAME ON A STREET SIGN. THIS IS ALSO THE MAN WHO SAID, AND I QUOTE, THE AMERICAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY HATES THIS COUNTRY. THEY WANNA SEE IT COLLAPSE. THEY LOVE IT WHEN AMERICA BECOMES LESS WHITE. BY THE WAY, I'M WHITE, OKAY, HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY, I'VE BEEN PUBLICLY LABELED A RADICAL LEFTIST BY SOMEONE I'VE NEVER MET A MAN WHO BRAGS ONLINE ABOUT HIS WEAPONS CASH. NOW IMAGINE PUTTING UP A STREET SAINT SIGN HONORING CHARLIE KIRK, A MAN WHO TOLD THE WORLD THAT THE 14,177 DEMOCRATS IN THIS CITY HATE AMERICA. YOU ARE PUTTING A TARGET ON EVERY ONE OF OUR BACKS ON MY BACK. WORDS MATTER. AND SO DO PEOPLE DO NOT DO THIS. WHEN CHARLIE KIRK WAS MURDERED, I SAID, PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY, EVERY SHOOTING DIMINISHES US VIOLENCE, ESPECIALLY GUN VIOLENCE CANNOT BE AN ANSWER TO HATE AND VIOLENT RHETORIC. I PRAY FOR CHARLIE KIRK'S FAMILY, FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WITNESSED SUCH HORROR AND FOR ALL OF US THAT WE CAN SURVIVE THE ANGER. I STAND BY THAT, BUT HONORING IT WITH A STREET NAME DOES NOT HONOR FREE SPEECH. IT'S SILENCE AS PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO HE CLAIMED HATE OUR OWN COUNTRY, IT MAKES US LESS SAFE. ANDRE XAVIER FOLLOWED BY FRAN FRANCE. ALINA RODRIGUEZ ARENA, FRANCIA IS HER NAME. OKAY. UM, MY NAME'S ANDRE. I'VE ONLY LIVED HERE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, BUT I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY. I JUST WANNA SHARE SOMETHING PERSONAL. I RECENTLY HAD THE PRIVILEGE AND BLESSING TO GO TO NOTRE DAME CATHEDRAL IN PARIS, FRANCE. AND IT WAS JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE, UH, SUNDAY MASS. AND WHEN I WALKED IN THERE, UM, IT WAS FILLED WITH PEOPLE OF ALL DIFFERENT COLORS AND ALL DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS HUMBLED, I WAS HUMBLED TO THE POINT OF TEARS. AND THOSE TEARS OF HUMBLENESS TURNED TO ANGER BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD USE THEIR FAITH TO DIVIDE PEOPLE AND FURTHER SO DESTRUCTION AND DEFAME OTHERS AND DISCREDIT OTHERS. AND FAITH SHOULDN'T BE USED THAT WAY. IT SHOULD BE USED THE WAY I SAW IT WITH EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER AND EVERYBODY LOVING EACH OTHER. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE POINT OF FAITH. AND CHARLIE KIRK DIDN'T USE HIS FAITH THAT WAY. HE, HE USED IT TO MASK HIS HATE. AND PEOPLE HAVE DONE THAT FOREVER, FOR CENTURIES IN THIS COUNTRY AND COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, THEY STILL DO IT. AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE A THING THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. AND WE SHOULDN'T HONOR SOMEONE WHO DOES THAT. AND HONESTLY, I KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS PROPOSED BY THE MAYOR. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT, YOU KNOW, A SMALL BUSINESS WAS INVOLVED. I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. I I JUST KNEW THAT, UH, KIRK WAS NOT SOMEONE THAT THAT SHOULD BE AD ADMIRED, EVEN IF HE WAS ELOQUENT, EVEN IF HE, YOU KNOW, CHAMPION FREE SPEECH. AND THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING, CHAMPION. BUT WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, COMBINE IT WITH, WITH WORDS OF HATE, IT, IT ADMIRES YOUR WORDS. THE THE WORDS DON'T MATTER THEN. AND, AND THAT'S RIGHT. AND PEOPLE CAN'T BELIEVE YOUR FAITH IF YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK AND, AND SAY THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE ARE LESSER THAN, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WORD OF JESUS. IT'S NOT THE WORD OF GOD. AND, UM, I I I [02:05:01] DON'T THINK THAT HE REALLY WAS PAYING ATTENTION. UH, AND HONESTLY, I I JUST WANNA SHARE COUPLE, COUPLE POEMS I WROTE. UM, COMPASSION SHOULD BE MORE IN FASHION BECAUSE KINDNESS CAN CURE. BLINDNESS. HATE CANNOT LIVE WHERE THERE'S LOVE, PEACE NEEDS SPACE TO FLY LIKE A DOVE DO NOT CRINGE AT AWKWARD MOMENTS AND HEARTS LAID BARE CRINGE AT THE ONES WHO PURPOSEFULLY SHOW NO CARE. ART GIVES THE HUMAN SPIRIT TANGIBILITY, WHICH IS WHY WE MUST NURTURE AND NOURISH EACH OTHER'S CREATIVITY. I DON'T THINK THAT HE WAS NOURISHING ANYTHING BY, BY HIS SPEECH AND, AND THE WAY THAT HE TALKED ABOUT OTHERS THAT WERE NOT FROM HERE, THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, OF A DIFFERENT COLOR, OF A DIFFERENT CREED. UM, AND, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT, WHAT JESUS TAUGHT. AND, AND HE WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION WHEN, WHEN HE WAS IN CHURCH. AND I'M NOT A RELIGIOUS PERSON. I, I DO THINK I HAVE SPIRITUALITY, BUT I WOULD NOT DOWNPLAY OTHERS THAT GO TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY BY SAYING I'M A RELIGIOUS PERSON. BUT I WAS STILL HUMBLED AND, AND FELT A PROFOUND NEED TO SPEAK TODAY BECAUSE OF, OF MY EXPERIENCE AND, AND WHAT I HEARD FROM HIS WORDS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FRANCE. THERE YOU GO. ELENA RODRIGUEZ SINA FOLLOWED BY MARGARET KEARNEY, I THINK CUNEY OF PALM BAY. YES. OKAY, YOU'RE, THANK YOU. THAT'S FRANCIA FRANCIA. ELENA RODRIGUEZ. REINA. I AM A CITIZEN OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. CHARLIE'S WORDS WERE NOT HIDDEN. I DO NOT PLAN TO QUOTE ANY OF THEM TONIGHT OR EVER. EVERYBODY DID A GREAT JOB. UM, I DO WANT TO QUOTE AND SPEAK FOR MYSELF AS A SECOND GENERATION IMMIGRANT, COLOMBIAN INDIGENOUS AFRO DESCENT, SPANISH NA UH, NATIVE SPEAKER, EDUCATED, PURSUING MY MBA BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN MELBOURNE. BEEN TO PLENTY OF GALAS WITH YOU GENTLEMEN AND LADIES. UM, I AM A PROUD SINGLE MOTHER OF THREE COLLEGE EDUCATED SONS, UH, TAXPAYER, GOD-FEARING, CARING, GIVING CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, AND AGAIN, CITIZEN OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. AND I QUOTE, IF YOU DON'T SEE CHARLIE'S RACISM, YOU DON'T SEE YOUR OWN. YOU'RE CHOOSING TO SEE, YOU'RE CHOOSING NOT TO SEE ME. YOU'RE CHOOSING NOT TO SEE COUNCILMAN MARCUS. YOU'RE CHOOSE, YOU'RE CHOOSING NOT TO SEE A LOT OF YOUR 20 PLUS PERCENT OF BLACK AND BROWN ASIAN MIXED, AND EVEN YOUR WHITE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU MARGARET. AND THEN BEN KALO, I BELIEVE IT IS. YEAH. THANK RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. YES, MY NAME IS MARGARET NEY. I LIVE IN PALM BAY. UM, I'M FROM PHILADELPHIA ORIGINALLY. I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MOMENT. BUT, UH, THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO THIS EVENING IS ADDRESS SOME OF THE LIES THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK THIS EVENING. UH, NUMBER ONE, UH, THE ACCUSATIONS OF RACISM THAT I'M HEARING. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE ACCURATE. I KNOW THAT HE INVITED 400 BLACK PEOPLE TO THE WHITE HOUSE. HE PROMOTED A NUMBER OF BLACK INFLUENCERS AND SPEAKERS, SOME OF WHOM ARE PRETTY FAMOUS, REGARDLESS OF YOUR OPINIONS ON THEM. LIKE CANDACE OWENS, FOR EXAMPLE. UH, I KNEW THAT HE HAD THE FIRST LATINO LEADERSHIP EVENT FOR TURNING POINT USA INVITED A NUMBER OF LATINO INFLUENCERS. HE ALSO HAPPENED TO RECRUIT GAY AND LESBIAN AMBASSADORS FOR TURNING POINT USA AND DEFENDED THEM AGAINST PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE HATEFUL AND AWFUL THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THEM. SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING AREN'T TRUE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT MYSELF AS AN UNMARRIED, CHILDLESS 37-YEAR-OLD CAREER WOMAN, THAT THE ACCUSATIONS OF MISOGYNY AND SEXISM ARE NOT BASED IN REALITY EITHER. HE, UH, WAS MARRIED TO A WOMAN FIVE YEARS AS SENIOR. SHE HERSELF WAS A BUSINESS WOMAN. UM, AND SHE'S NOW THE CEO OF HIS ORGANIZATION. SHE'S A COLLEGE EDUCATED WOMAN. AGAIN, FIVE YEARS AS SENIOR. UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE TO BE THE ACTIONS OF A MISOGYNIST MAN WHO WANTS WOMEN TO STAY IN THE KITCHEN. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS AGAIN, A LOT OF LIES THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING THIS EVENING. UH, I SEE THAT I'M A MINUTE AND A HALF INTO THIS, SO I'LL GET TO THE POINT. UM, I AM SPEAKING AS IF YOU HAVEN'T PICKED UP ON THIS BY NOW, IN FAVOR OF NAMING A STREET. WHICH ONE AGAIN? THAT'S UP FOR DEBATE. A STREET FOR CHARLIE KIRK. I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. [02:10:01] UH, AS I MENTIONED A FEW MOMENTS AGO, I MOVED HERE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, UH, FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA. UH, WHICH IS A AREA WHERE I FRANKLY FELT OPPRESSED HONESTLY, FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. YOU CAN LAUGH THAT IT'S, YOU'RE, THAT'S YOUR RIGHT. BUT, UH, I REMEMBER BEING IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE I FELT I COULDN'T TELL PEOPLE THAT I WAS A WEEKLY CHURCH GOER. THAT WAS A RECIPE FOR EXCLUSION. I HAD A NEIGHBOR TELL ME A PROVOST OF NOTHING. IT WAS NOT A POLITICAL DISCUSSION THAT SHE COULD NOT BE FRIENDS WITH ME IF I WASN'T A DEMOCRAT. I HAD, UM, UH, IT WAS AN ENVIRONMENT I SAW PEOPLE LOSE THEIR JOBS FOR SAYING REALLY MILD THINGS THAT JUST DIDN'T GO ALONG WITH, OR MIGHT BE PERCEIVED BY SOMEBODY TO BE AGAINST CERTAIN, UH, APPROVED TALKING POINTS FOR THE COMMUNITY UP THERE. AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS THAT HE PROMOTED, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE, I KNOW THAT THIS IS GREATLY IMPACTED THE UNDER 30 SET. UM, HE PROMOTED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE COULD FEEL FREE TO SPEAK AND HE PROMOTED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE HE WOULD BRING PEOPLE UP AND INVITE THEM TO SPEAK THEM TO SPEAK AND TO BE THEMSELVES, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE THAT THEY HAD TO, HAD THEY HAD TO SAY EVEN WHEN HE DISAGREED WITH THEM. UM, I ACTUALLY WATCHED MORE VIDEOS IN THE LAST 10 DAYS THAN I EVER HAD OF HIM SPEAKING. I'M SHORT ON TIME. I'LL JUST SAY THAT I SAW HIM SHOW A LOT OF LOVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT HE SPOKE WITH, EVEN PEOPLE WHO WERE DIFFERENT AND PEOPLE THAT HE DISAGREED WITH. SO, UH, THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. BEN CANOR, FOLLOWED BY BRITTANY BOWMAN. I BELIEVE THAT BIT. BRITTANY BOWMAN IS THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER. MY NAME IS BEN CANDOR. I'M A MEDICALLY RETIRED ARMY COMBAT VETERAN. I SERVED THREE TOURS IN AFGHANISTAN. I WATCHED THE TOWERS FALL AS MANY OF YOU DID. AND I REMEMBER THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY. I FELT THAT DAY I WAS 12 YEARS OLD. I DO NOT FEEL THAT IN THIS COMMUNITY. SEEING THE STATE OF OUR COUNTRY TODAY MAKES ME REGRET THAT DECISION. WE HAVE ELECTED LEADERS ACTING LIKE CHILDREN, MAKING VIRTUE SIGNALING MOVES SUCH AS RENAMING A TINY SECTION OF STREET JUST TO TROLL A LOCAL TAX PAYING BUSINESS OWNER. AND I DUNNO, EMULATE TRUMP. WE HAVE CHILDREN WHOSE BIGGEST ROLE MODEL WAS A 30 PLUS YEAR OLD MAN WHO ARGUED WITH COLLEGE STUDENTS FOR A LIVING AND ONCE SAID THAT THE LINES OF CONSENT WERE BLURRED AND CONSIDERED A GREAT, SORRY. WILL YOU A WOMAN, SORRY, WILL YOU, THE CAMERA. WILL YOU SPEAK UP HERE? HE ONCE SAID THAT THE LINES OF CONSENT ARE BLURRED IF A COUPLE OF FRAC COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE DRINKING. AND THE WOMAN REMOVES CONSENT. HE SAID, THAT IS BLURRED. I HAVE THE VIDEO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE IT. AMEN. PLEASE PLAY IT. AMEN. PLAY IT. UM, WE HAVE MEN AND BOYS WHO ARE SO WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF MAN WITH ANTIQUATED IDEAS OF THE CAPABILITY OF THE WOMEN IN THEIR LIVES, BUT WILL TURN AROUND AND PREACH ABOUT PROTECTING THE WOMEN IN THEIR LIVES. REAL MEN PROTECT AND NURTURE THE WOMEN IN THEIR LIVES. BUT WORST OF ALL, WORST OF ALL, WE HAVE AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE READY TO THROW AWAY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. THAT'S RIGHT. BY RENAMING THE SPECIFIC SESSION OF STREET, YOU'RE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO VIOLATING THAT. AND IF I WAS THE LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER, I WOULD BE IN CONTACT WITH A CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYER TO SUE THIS CITY. WE'RE VERY QUICKLY TURNING INTO AUTHORITARIAN GOVERNMENT. TO SEE IT HAPPENING ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL IS ONE THING, BECAUSE PEOPLE IN DC SOLD THEIR SOULS LONG AGO. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT TO BE PERSECUTING YOUR OWN NEIGHBOR, OWN NEIGHBOR FOR SAYING HER TRUTH ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK AND WHAT HE MEANT TO HER LIFE, I'M AFRAID ANY HOPE I HAD IS LOST. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR PROVING THAT FASCISM IS VERY REAL AND VERY HOMEGROWN. OKAY, BRITTANY, LAST SPEAKER, BRITTANY BOWMAN. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BRITTANY BOWMAN, AND I LOVE MY LIFE HERE IN MELBOURNE. I THINK EVERYONE WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME DID A WONDERFUL JOB, AND I'M SO PROUD TO STAND AT THIS PODIUM FOLLOWING THESE CITIZENS WHO CAME OUT TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD. UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN SEE FROM THE BOARD DISINTERESTED BODY LANGUAGE OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS IN FRONT OF ME HERE, THAT THEY'RE NOT PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE MORAL IMPLICATIONS OF ENSHRINING, A GROWN MAN WHO DEDICATED HIS SHORT LIFE TO PREACHING HATRED, VIOLENCE AND BIGOTRY TO CHILDREN. SO I TOO WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE IMPLICATION BEHIND AN ELECTED OFFICIAL USING TAXPAYER TIME, MONEY, AND VARIOUS RESOURCES TO RETALIATE AGAINST A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER. I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER IF THAT BUSINESS OWNER'S TAXES CONTRIBUTE TO THAT ELECTED OFFICIAL'S SALARY. WHEN I TROLL THE MAYOR ON THE INTERNET, THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT UNKIND, BUT WHEN THE GOVERNMENT LEVERAGES SUCH PETTY PUNISHMENTS AGAINST A CITIZEN FOR SPEAKING HER MIND, THAT COMES DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO AN INFRINGEMENT UPON HER FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH WITHOUT FEAR OF GOVERNMENT [02:15:01] RETALIATION. I AM ALSO A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER. AND TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, I ALSO REALLY DON'T CARE THAT THIS EVIL CREEP IS DEAD. WHAT'S MY PUNISHMENT? WHAT IS MY PUNISHMENT? SHOULD I PREPARE MY CHANGE OF ADDRESS FORM TO SEND TO THE IRS NOW BECAUSE MY STREET IS GOING TO BE CHANGED? I HAVE A SNEAKING SUSPICION THAT THIS ENTIRE JOKE OF A PROPOSAL WAS MEANT TO BE A SPECTACLE FROM THE BEGINNING, MUCH LIKE CHARLIE KIRK, AND MUCH LIKE HIS END. I HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL CHOOSES THE PATH OF UNITY OVER THE PATH OF DIVISION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OKAY. THAT'S THE END OF PUBLIC SPEAKING. UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. UH, REGARDING, UM, THIS AGENDA ITEM. IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROM COUNCIL MAYOR, VICE MAYOR? UH, I'LL GO FIRST. SO I WILL SAY THIS. UH, I WAS RAISED NOT TO SPEAK ILL OF THE DEAD. SOME OF THE WORDS THAT WERE SAID WERE THE MOST HATEFUL AGAINST A DEAD MAN THAT I'VE EVER HEARD, AND THEN PROCEEDED TO TAUNT MEMBERS OF THE CROWD WITH A MIDDLE FINGER TO THE FACE. AND I HOPE THAT, I HOPE YOU DIDN'T, I I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE PROUD OF THAT, SIR. THAT'S WRONG AND VILE AND I HOPE THAT THESE OTHER WAS OB. OKAY. HEY, SIR, I'M SORRY. ORDER, ORDER. DEPUTY MAYOR IS SPEAKING AT THIS TIME, AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR SAYING BULLIED BECAUSE THAT'S INTIMIDATION AND BULLYING AND AND HATE. I'M SORRY. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. AND I HOPE THAT THE REST OF THE GROUP CONDEMNS THAT. PLEASE. VERY SAD. UH, THIS WAS, THAT WAS VERY SAD. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT LOVE LOOKS LIKE. EVEN THOUGH WE WERE JUST TALKED ABOUT LOVE BY YOU. UH, OVER, OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I SAW MEN AND WOMEN OF ALL STRIPES GO TO CHURCH. CHARLIE TOLD YOUNG PEOPLE THEIR VOICE IN POLITICS MATTERED IN A TIME WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE ARE TOLD NOT TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND NOT TO GET INVOLVED. THERE ARE SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE HURTING DEEPLY BECAUSE OF THIS LOSS. AND THIS PROVIDES THEM JOY AND HOPE THAT, UH, THAT MATTERS TO THEM. THOUSANDS OF VIGILS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THEN LOCALLY SUPPORTED ONES SUCH AS ONE BY OUR CONGRESSMAN. SPEAKING OF CONGRESSMAN HERE, OPOLIS, HE EVEN SHOWED UP TO THE PRE, UH, TO THE KENNEDY CENTER. AND WHEN MEMBERS OF THE HIGHEST OFFICES IN GOVERNMENT HELD A VIGIL IN SHOWING, UH, TALKING ABOUT LOVE OF CHARLIE KIRK, THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR STATE AND LEADERSHIP SUPPORT CHARLIE, LOCALLY AND STATEWIDE. HE BELIEVED IN FREE SPEECH AND DIED DURING FREE SPEECH, REACHING OUT TO STUDENTS WHO DISAGREED WITH HIM. HE ONCE SAID, WHEN WE STOPPED TALKING TO EACH OTHER, BAD THINGS HAPPEN. AND HIS HOPE WAS TO STOP BAD THINGS FROM HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY. THROUGH DIALOGUE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE OTHER SIDE, HE WAS KILLED IN THAT EFFORT TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. WE CAN TAKE THE BUSINESS OWNER, MS. LAMB'S SUGGESTION, TO PICK A LARGER STREET. WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. I HAVE ALSO HEARD THROUGHOUT THE WAY HECKLING BULLYING, IF YOUR ATTITUDE HECK HECKLING IS BULLYING. THAT'S, YOU GUYS, THIS MOVE. YOU. HE'S SPEAKING RIGHT NOW. VICE MAYOR. STANDBY. MA'AM, WHAT WAS THIS FOR? OKAY, MA'AM. I'LL HAVE YOU REMOVE ONE MORE OUTBURST. GO VICE. GO AHEAD. VICE MAYOR. UH, I HAVE ALSO HEARD THROUGHOUT THE WEEK VAST SUPPORT FROM INDIVIDUALS, UH, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE, OUR FUTURE, UH, BY RENAMING THE STREET, WE ARE PROMOTING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, REACHING ACROSS THE AISLE AND PEACEFUL POLITICAL DEBATE. I AM ALSO HAPPY LOOK AT THIS. BULLYING GUYS LOOK AT YOURSELVES FOR VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE IN MELBOURNE AS WELL AS MEMORIAL AVENUE. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? I DO. MS. HANLEY. GO AHEAD, MA'AM. I DIDN'T KNOW KNOW WHO CHARLIE KIRK WAS UNTIL AFTER HE WAS KILLED. UM, THAT, SO WE'RE MORTAL. I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM, BUT CHARLIE KIRK DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE BREVARD COUNTY WAS. DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MELBOURNE. AND I LIKE THE SOMEBODY ELSE SAYING THAT SOME OF THE, UM, PJS, I'VE KNOWN OTHER PJS THAT HAVE DIED 'CAUSE I WAS FRIENDS WITH THEM WHEN THEY WERE STATIONED HERE AT THE BASE. I DON'T FEEL WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT COULD BE HONORED RATHER THAN A MAN THAT I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF UNTIL THE ASSASSINATION. I FIND IT HARD TO NAME A STREET AFTER SOMEBODY THAT A GOOD MAJORITY, MAYBE, PROBABLY HALF THE COMMUNITY, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO HE WAS AND HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO PROMOTE OUR COMMUNITY. WE'VE HAD ASTRONAUTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE THAT PROMOTED THE SPACE COAST IN THIS AREA. I'D RATHER SEE SOMETHING NAMED AFTER THAT PROMOTING OUR LOCAL AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. SIR, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, SIR. OKAY. [02:20:01] I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT EVERYBODY, AND TONIGHT I GOTTA TRY AND REPRESENT EVERYBODY. AND BY THAT I MEAN THAT AS I SIT HERE, I HAVE TO TAKE AN APOLITICAL POSITION BECAUSE I'M VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY. I'M ALSO A MELBOURNE MEMBER OF THIS MELBOURNE COUNCIL. I RECOGNIZE AND SEE EVERY DAY, EVEN TODAY, I, SORRY YOU GUYS COULDN'T MAKE THE ME MEETING THIS MORNING. UH, BUT WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH FORTUNE 100 AND FORTUNE 50 COMPANIES TO BRING THEIR COMPANIES HERE. THEY LOOK AT US AND TRY TO TELL WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE GONNA MOVE THEIR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO, OR EVEN ME AS A BUSINESS OWNER. IF I, AND I'M NOT GONNA USE THAT. I'M NOT GONNA SAY IF I STEP OUTTA LINE THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE SENDING BY NAMING THE CYPRUS, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T HONOR. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD HONOR. I'M SAYING KEEPING IT RIGHT DOWN THE LINE IN THE MIDDLE HERE, GUYS, IS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING BY THE, BY THE BUSINESS OWNER. WE'RE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING. WE WANT TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL. DO IT. LET'S HAVE A GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT LET'S HAVE A WORKSHOP, LET'S WORK, LET'S TALK ALL DAY ABOUT IT. BUT DOING THIS IS SENDING A MESSAGE TO EVERY BUSINESS IN THIS WORLD, INCLUDING THE SO FALCON JET THAT WE ARE IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEGOTIATION OF 40 MORE ACRES, GUYS. I MEAN, THIS IS SERIOUS. WE'RE TALKING 80,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER 20,000, UH, JOBS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE ROAD. WHAT'S THAT? BEFORE I'M GONE, I MEAN, AFTER I'M GONE. BUT LOOK, MY, MY THING IS, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SUPPORTING THE ROAD NAME. WOO. YOU KNOW, WHY PUT MONEY IN YOUR LIFE? I WANT, I WANT TO HAVE A BETTER CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT IS VERY RAW, IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL. UH, IT'S EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT, THAT SHOULD BE COMING IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT LIKE THIS. OKAY? THAT'S MY FEELING. THANK YOU, SIR. SO THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S BOTTOM LINE FOR ME. OKAY. MR. MR. SMITH. GOOD. UH, MAYOR, UM, POLITICAL VIOLENCE IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE. SO, FROM THE TRAGIC ASSASSINATION OF CHARLIE KIRK TO THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP, TO THE MULTIPLE LIES LAW, STILL IN THE JANUARY 6TH ASSAULT ON DEMOCRACY, THESE MOMENTS REMIND US THAT BALANCE CORRO CIVIC LIFE AND SILENCE. THE VERY DISCOURSE A FREE SOCIETY DEPENDS ON. BUT I WANT TO BEGIN BY EXTENDING MY CONDOS TO THE KIRK FAMILY, TO HIS SUPPORTERS, AND TO ALL WHO MOURNED THE LOSS OF HIS VOICE. I DID WATCH THE MEMORIAL TO IN STATE FARM STADIUM, WHERE GREATER THAN 90,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP. I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, THAT, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIS LIFE. CHARLIE KIRK SHOULD BE COMMENDED THAT HE BUILT A MOVEMENT THAT MOBILIZED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, YOUNG AND OLD OF EVERY SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS AND BACKGROUND THROUGH TURNING POINT USA. HE ENERGIZED CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES AND HE CHALLENGED THE STATUS QUO THROUGH PUBLIC DISCOURSE. HE INSPIRED MANY WHO FELT THEIR VALUES WERE BEING OVERLOOKED TO ENGAGE A CIVIC LIFE THAT IS NO SMALL ACCOMPLISHMENT. BUT AS AN INDEPENDENT THINKER, I ALSO BELIEVE IN CONSERVATIVE VALUES. I BELIEVE CAPITALISM WORK, SELF-SUFFICIENCY IS CRITICAL. FINANCIAL LITERACY BUILDS WEALTH. SMALL BUSINESS INVESTMENTS CREATES OPPORTUNITY. MERITOCRACY IS FAIR. AND AS A RETIRED AIR FORCE LIEUTENANT COLONEL AND I DID SERVE THOSE GUYS. I WAS DEPLOYED WHEN THOSE GUYS, POSH INNI, I WAS THERE. UH, I BELIEVE IN PATRIOTISM AND SMALLER GOVERNMENT AND LOWER TAXES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE MUST INVEST IN PEOPLE AND INSTITUTIONS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES AND HELP THEM BECOME MORE COMPETITIVE. BUT WE MUST ALSO BE HONEST ABOUT THE CONTROVERSY HERE. WHILE I DEFEND FREE SPEECH AND BELIEVE DISAGREEMENT IS HEALTHY, MANY OF HIS STATEMENTS WERE DIVISIVE. OKAY? WHILE HEALTHY DEBATE CAN SHARPEN DEMOCRACY DISPARAGING OR STEREOTYPING INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS DAMAGES IT. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN CHARLIE KIRK SUGGESTS THAT BLACK PILOTS MIGHT NOT BE QUALIFIED, THAT'S NOT JUST PROVOCATIVE, THAT'S INACCURATE. SEE, THE FAA, THE FAA CERTIFICATION PROCESS IS BASED ON SKILL AND MERIT, NOT RACE DIVERSITY INITIATIVES OPEN THE DOORS, BUT THRIVING IN AVIATION OR IN ANY FIELD REQUIRES PERFORMANCE AT THE HIGHEST STANDARD. STATEMENTS LIKE THIS CREATE MISTRUST AND MINISTER ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THOSE WHO EARN THEIR PLACE THROUGH THEIR ABILITY AND DISCIPLINE. SO I MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN TO GEORGIA TECH THROUGH A DIVERSITY INITIATIVE AS A KNUCKLEHEAD, BUT MY HARD WORK AND THE WAY I STUDY ALLOWED ME TO GRADUATE AND TO GET THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND BECOME AN ELECTRIC. BUT BEFORE I [02:25:01] CLOSE, I WANT US TO HEAR CHARLIE KIRK IN HIS OWN WORDS. SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT INTERPRETATION, IT'S ABOUT LETTING HIS WORDS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. SO LET'S WATCH THIS BRIEF VIDEO. SO KEVIN, PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEO. YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN, UH, PUT IT IN THE SHOW AND SEE A BLACK PILOT. YOU WONDER, YOU SAY, YEAH, THANK YOU. AND SEE A BLACK PILOT. YOU WONDER, YOU SAY, I HOPE THEY ARE QUALIFIED. IF I SEE A BLACK PILOT, I'M GONNA BE LIKE, BOY, I HOPE HE'S QUALIFIED. I'M DEALING WITH SOMEBODY IN CUSTOMER SERVICE WHO'S A MORONIC BLACK WOMAN. I DON'T, I I WONDER, IS SHE THERE BECAUSE OF HER, HER EXCELLENCE? OR IS SHE THERE? BECAUSE AFFIRMATIVE, ACTUAL THOMAS SOUL AND JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS ARE FAR BETTER BLACK MODELS TO CELEBRATE THAN MARTIN LUTHER KING. PERIOD. END OF STORY. SKY IS NOT WORTHY OF A NATIONAL HOLIDAY. HE'S NOT WORTHY OF GOD-LIKE STATUS. IN FACT, I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE BRAIN PROCESSING POWER TO OTHERWISE BE TAKEN REALLY SERIOUSLY. YOU HAD TO GO STEAL A WHITE PERSON'S SLOT TO GO BE TAKEN SOMEWHAT SERIOUSLY. SO I'M NOT FINISHED. I'M NOT FINISHED. PLEASE. YEAH. LET, LET HIM SPEAK. I'M NOT FINISHED. SO, SO WHAT MR. KIRK ACCOMPLISH IN HIS 31 YEARS IS TO BE COMMENDED IN HIS OWN WAY. AND AFTER HEARING HIS WORDS, WHAT WE JUST HEARD AND WE SAW, I WANT TO PLACE HIS LEGACY IN PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME AS WHAT DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING ACCOMPLISHED IN HIS YEARS. AMEN. DR. KING LAUNCHED A PRINCIPLE NON-VIOLENT MOVEMENT THROUGH DISMANTLE JIM CROW LAWS. HE CHALLENGED SEGREGATION AND RACIAL INEQUALITY THROUGH CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. DR. KING'S BATTLEFIELD WAS THE STREETS, BUSES, AND COURTHOUSES OF AMERICA. CHARLIE KIRK'S BATTLEFIELD WAS COLLEGE CAMPUSES. AMEN. TELEVISION STUDIOS AND SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS BOTH LEFT THE IMPACT IN THEIR OWN WAYS, BUT THEIR STRUGGLES WERE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT AND SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED. THAT'S RIGHT. IN CLOSING, WE ALL SERVE A GOD OF ABUNDANCE, NOT SCARCITY. SO JUST BECAUSE A PERSON IS ACCEPTED FOR THEIR QUALIFICATIONS DOES NOT MEAN THAT OTHERS ARE LEFT BEHIND. SO WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN CREATE GREATER OPPORTUNITY. WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT OVER A SINGLE SLICE OF PIE. WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A BIGGER PIE AND WHEN AND WHEN WE HAVE SLICES FOR EVERYONE. SO, SCRIPTURE REMINDS US THAT A GOD WILL MEET OUR NEEDS ACCORDING TO THE RICHEST OF HIS GLORY IN CHRIST JESUS. THAT COMES FROM PHILIPPIANS. AND THAT IS WHY THIS DECISION IS COMPLICATED. NAMING A STREET IS NOT JUST ABOUT HONORING A MAN, IT'S ABOUT CHOOSING A SYMBOL. STREET NAME SHOULD UNITE RATHER THAN DIVIDE, INSPIRE RATHER THAN PROVOKE. RIGHT? WE CAN REJECT POLITICAL VIOLENCE WHILE EMBRACING VIGOROUS DEBATE. WE CAN HONOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS WHILE ALSO RECOGNIZING CONTROVERSY. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE CAN CHOOSE SYMBOLS FOR OUR CITY THAT REFLECT UNITY, THAT REFLECT ABUNDANCE AND OPPORTUNITY VALUES THAT BRING US CLOSER TOGETHER, RATHER THAN PUSH US FURTHER APART. THIS IS THE STANDARD WE SHOULD HOLD OURSELVES TO AS WE CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. YEAH. REAL QUICK. AND, AND I'LL ACTUALLY WANNA RESPOND. OKAY? EVERYBODY. HEY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. REAL, REAL QUICK. AND I, AND I WANNA SAY SOMETHING TO YOU, UH, MR. SMITH, 'CAUSE WE'RE BOTH, BOTH THE MILITARY VETERANS UP HERE, ME AND YOU BOTH. AND, AND I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU TOOK A LOT OF THAT OUTTA CONTEXT BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN HE, WHEN HE WAS SAYING WHEN HE WAS 18, THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S THE PROBLEM OF AMERICA TODAY. YOU DON'T LET OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK. AND THE FACT IS TO HEAR FASCIST, UH, HIS THE EVIL CREEP IS DEAD. I DIDN'T SAY THAT. HOLD ON. NO, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT YOU HEAR IN THE CROWD. BUT THE FACT IS, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT DEI AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU GOT WHERE YOU WAS BECAUSE YOU WORKED FOR IT. AND THAT'S SIMPLE. AND THAT'S ALL. IF YOU, IF YOU WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN YOU WATCH THESE VIDEOS LIKE I DID, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SHOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT. I LET YOU GO. NO, I WATCHED THE, I WATCHED THE BALL. NO, I JUST VIDEO. VIDEO. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? OKAY, MA'AM. GOOD. OKAY. SO I I DON'T WANNA SAY WHETHER I LIKE HIM OR DISLIKE HIM. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE. UM, I'M GONNA BE LIKE, COUNCILMAN LIB. SO KIND OF GO DOWN THE LINE. UM, I DON'T FEEL LIKE DECISIONS OF THIS MAGNITUDE SHOULD BE MADE ON EMOTION. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. SO QUICKLY AFTER SOMEBODY'S DEATH WITH, UH, POSSIBLY REVISIT LATE THIS LATER, UM, MAYBE ANOTHER STREET IF PEOPLE ARE OPEN TO IT, LET'S HAVE DISCUSSION. UM, NOT ON A ONE NIGHT DISCUSSION, MAYBE A WORKSHOP. IF THIS IS SOMETHING, IF PEOPLE WANT, IF IT'S SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT, I SEE IN THAT WORKSHOP, . OH, THANK. OKAY, COOL. THAT'S GREAT. I WOULD INVITE EVERYBODY TO BE THERE. UM, I'M, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, IF THIS IS ALLOWED, LIKE MAYBE TAKE OUR, OUR PARKING GARAGE HERE AT CITY COUNCIL AND, UM, CITIZENS CAN, UM, SAY, UH, WHO LIKE, HAVE A, A, A FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE NAMED AFTER A, A HERO, THERE'S A LOCAL HERO OR, [02:30:01] UH, VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE, OR ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? SO MAYBE IT'S NOT TAKING A WHOLE STREET, BUT LIKE PEOPLE CAN PETITION TO HAVE A FLOOR OF OUR GARAGE HERE NAMED AFTER SOMEBODY IMPORTANT TO THEM IN THE COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THERE'S A SEPARATE SECTION IN CODE THAT TALKING ABOUT RENAMING FOR OTHER PUBLIC PLACES. OTHER PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF ROAD. SO I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S CODE LANGUAGE TO THAT EFFECT. OKAY. UM, I, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HONOR SOME OF OUR, OUR, OUR LOCAL, UM, ARE, ARE YOU SAYING HONOR CHARLIE KIRK THAT WAY? NO, NO, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. OH, THEN THAT HAS, I'M SAYING WE NEED A WORKSHOP FOR THAT. THAT'S CHARLIE PEPPER. THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT, OKAY. I'M JUST SAYING FOR THE LOCAL HEROES, WHICH COULD INCLUDE CHARLIE KIRK, IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT, OR IF THAT'S WHAT I SAID. MA'AM, YOU'RE, MA'AM, YOU'RE THE COUNCIL MEMBER. MARTIN LUTHER KING. WELL, HOLD ON. AND, AND I, I'M GONNA SAY MS. BASSETT REAL QUICK. I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING. THE FACT, THE FACT IS, AFTER 50 YEARS, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, BECAUSE I PUSH FOR IT 50. OKAY. OKAY. I WASN'T HERE, I WASN'T ON THIS DIET 50 YEARS AGO, MA'AM. 50 YEARS. I WASN'T HERE 50 YEARS AGO WHEN I GOT ON HERE, YOU KNOW, UH, A A COUPLE PEOPLE COME TO ME AND, AND ASKED ABOUT IT, AND I SAID, I AGREE. UM, SO IT, IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT I DID WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS UP HERE AND, AND PALM BAY COULDN'T DO IT. WE DID IT. IT WAS HONESTLY THE REPUBLICANS ON THIS DIOCESE THAT GOT THAT DONE FOR DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. THAT'S A FACT. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, AGAIN, UH, CHARLIE KIRK TO SOME MAY HAVE BEEN A POLARIZING FIGURE, BUT HE, HE, MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, CHRISTIANS, PEOPLE THAT LOVE THE FAMILY, THEY, THEY WHY EVERYBODY. AND IF YOU EVER WATCH THE VIDEOS, YOU SAW EVERYBODY, HIM ENGAGING WITH EVERYBODY WITH RESPECT. I DUNNO WHAT OKAY. MS. MS. FAN MS. KENNEDY, YOU ALMOST SAID SENTENCE. I KNOW. I APOLOGIZE. WELL, UM, IN MY TWO PAGES OF NOTES, I'M GONNA TRY TO CONDENSE THAT INTO JUST A FEW LINES. UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF, UH, SPEECHES HERE TONIGHT WITH A LOT OF, UM, DEEP EMOTION. UH, AND I THINK ONE THING THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON IS THAT WHAT WE WANT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE TO STAND FOR IS THAT WE SUPPORT THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE RIGHT FOR WHETHER IT'S SPACE COAST PRIDE, WHETHER IT'S TURNING POINT, WHETHER IT'S LAMB AND COMPANY, THAT WE STAND FOR THE RIGHT, FOR EVERY CITIZEN TO SAY WHAT IS ON THEIR MIND, WHETHER WE AGREE WITH IT OR NOT. SO MY PROPOSAL, I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE RENAMING OF THIS STREET TO CHARLIE JUDGE, HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE, THE RIGHT TIME, THE RIGHT LOOK. HOWEVER, IF WE WANT TO SUPPORT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS WANTING AND STRIVING FOR AND WHAT WE WANT THIS COMMUNITY TO BE RESPECTED FOR, WHY DON'T WE FIND A STREET, WHETHER IT'S THIS STREET OR NOT, AND NAME IT SOMETHING LIKE FIRST AMENDMENT STREET OR IT'S SOMETHING THAT SIGNIFIES US AGREEING WITH AND BEING PROPONENTS OF THAT FIRST AMENDMENT, FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND, OKAY. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I DO. GO AHEAD, MS. FAN, PLEASE. I'M PROBABLY COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, I STAND UP TO YOU IS THE ONLY ONE UP HERE THAT IS A PILOT, THAT'S A LICENSED PILOT. WHEN YOU'RE GOING FOR YOUR CHECK RIDES, THEY DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE. THEY DON'T CARE WHAT RACE, I'M SORRY, RACE, WHAT GENDER YOU ARE OR ANYTHING ELSE. YOU HAVE STANDARDS TO HIT. AND FOR HIM TO SAY THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'S DISGRACE TO ALL PILOTS. MM-HMM . WHETHER IT IS BLACK, WHITE WOMEN OR MEN. AND I, I DO STAND UP TO OKAY, MAYOR. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? MAYOR? OH, GO AHEAD, SIR. SO, UH, MR. LOU, SO YOU HAD SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK THAT THE WAY THAT IT WAS DONE, SO PARTICULARLY THAT ROAD, UH, WHICH MS. LAMB DOES NOT WANT IT ON HER ROAD, SHE MADE THAT CLEAR, BUT SHE DID SAY PERHAPS THE LARGER STREET SHE WOULD SUPPORT. THAT IS WHAT SHE SAID. SHE SAID THAT ON THE RECORD ON, SO ORDER, ORDER, ORDER ON HER BACK, BECAUSE, SO, GREAT. IT'S AN INCONVENIENT FACT FOR YOU, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH. SHE'S SCARED. SO COUNCIL IS ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO EACH OTHER, SIR, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO. SO, GO AHEAD. NO, YOU'RE GONNA BE SHOUTED DOWN BY THIS. YEAH. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WOULD YOU SUPPORT A WORKSHOP FOR, FOR US TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT ROAD FOR THE PARTICULAR NAMING OF CHARLIE KIRK? I PROPOSED WHAT WOULD YOU SUPPORT? I PROPOSED THE WORKSHOP. I PROPOSED TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. YEAH. SO I [02:35:01] DID NOT SAY I WOULD'VE APPROVE IT. OH, NO, NO. I DON'T SAY, I DIDN'T SAY I WOULD OPPOSE IT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO, BUT I WOULD. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I, LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR, WE'VE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT ABOUT SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, ABOUT SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. LOCAL HEROES, NATIONAL HEROES, INTERNATIONAL HEROES. SURE. EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD SURE. AND HOW THIS CAME ABOUT IS UNFORTUNATE. SURE. LOOK AT US RIGHT NOW. SURE. YOU KNOW, SO I WOULD SUPPORT A WORKSHOP, I WOULD SUPPORT ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM. SURE. I WOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT HAD MORE SPECIFIC BASE, BASE GROUND OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE DECISIONS. OKAY. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. IT DOES. YEAH. I REALLY DO. MM-HMM . BECAUSE THIS, IN MY MIND, SORRY PAUL, I LOVE YOU LIKE A BROTHER, BUT THIS IS WRONG. NO, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT A WORKSHOP. AND, AND I'LL SAY, MR. LARUSSO, THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO MANY, MANY PEOPLE, OUR STATE SENATORS SUPPORT THIS. THE BUSINESS OWNERS SUPPORT IT, EVEN THE LARGEST PROPERTY. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S UP HERE IS MAKING YOUR BIG $7,000 A YEAR BECAUSE YOU GOTTA MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS. . AND AND THAT'S THE REALITY. AND I, I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE SUPPOSED EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS WHO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, UH, REPRESENT. AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE SUPPORTING THE STREET THAT WE'RE NOT REPRESENTING PLAIN AND SIMPLE. SO, BUT I, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. UH, AND AGAIN, I COULD GO DOWN THE LIST, BUT, BUT BOTH STATE SENATORS, REPRESENTATIVES, BUS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, EVEN, EVEN, EVEN, EVEN WHEN I WENT TO, AND I SPOKE TO MS. LAMB, VERY NICE, VERY NICE. AND I, AND I REITERATE THE PEOPLE SHOULD SUPPORT HER BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, SHE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, AND OKAY, UH, INTIMIDATE. OKAY, GO AHEAD. SO I WOULD SUPPORT, SO I WOULD SUPPORT A WORKSHOP. SO THAT'S THREE MS. MS. BASSETT, WOULD YOU SUPPORT A WORKSHOP ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK AND RENAMING A ROAD AND FINDING ONE THAT'S APPROPRIATE? I, I WOULD SUPPORT PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER AND HAVING CONVERSATION. NO, NO. YOUR RACISM IS SHOWING. NO, NO, NO, NO. STOP. AND THAT'S OUR PROBLEM. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I MEAN, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. IF, IF SEE NO, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO HAVE PUBLIC DISCOURSE. YEAH. SEE, AND I'LL TELL YOU, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH AMERICA DAY. YOU'RE GONNA BE SHOT DOWN IF, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A, THE OPINION ISSUE OF CONSENT, GO AHEAD. WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT THAT VIDEO. SO, AND MS. KENNEDY, WOULD YOU, WELL, YOU'RE, NO, YOU SAID YOU WERE. NO, I ALREADY KNOW WHERE YOU STAND. I DIDN'T SAY IT. SO. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE A WORKSHOP? MAYOR? MAYOR, IF I, IF I MAY, HOLD ON MA'AM. ORDER, ORDER. GO AHEAD, SIR. IF I MAY, I, I LOVE, I LOVE, UH, COUNCILING, UH, KENNEDY'S IDEA. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND FIRST, I MEAN, IT IS VERY POWERFUL FIRST AMENDMENT LANE. UM, AND, AND, AND HERE, AND HERE'S THE POINT, MAYOR. 'CAUSE EVEN AS WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW, I THINK PUBLIC DISCOURSE IS VERY, VERY HEALTHY. IT'S A LOT OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT YOU GOT, WE GOTTA BE ABLE TO SAY, 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY ULTIMATELY, AS I DID LOOK AT A LOT OF CHARLIE KIRK VIDEOS, I'VE, I'VE DONE A LOT OF ANALYSIS. I MEAN, I THINK THAT BEING ABLE TO, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES. AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THAT HERE. YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA REALLY LEARN HOW TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DISCOURSE IN ORDER TO GET TO SOLUTIONS. SO I I LIKE THAT FIRST AMENDMENT MAYOR. OKAY, MA'AM, GO AHEAD. AND THE REASON, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, I BROUGHT THAT UP IS BECAUSE I THINK PART OF WHAT I WANNA SEE IN THIS CITY IS THE COMING TOGETHER. YEP. NOT THE COMING APART. YEAH. AND I ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE MIDDLE. SO, UH, UH, MS. KENNY, CAN YOU TELL ME, SAY THAT AGAIN. REPEAT WHAT YOU, SO I TRY TO GET THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER, NOT RIP THEM APART. AND I THINK THIS WHOLE, UH, TALK IS RIPPING THE COMMUNITY APART. OKAY. AND I REMEMBER THAT MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. UM, WHOLE DEBATE. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT WAS MY FIRST WEEK ON . YEAH. THAT, YEAH. WE WENT BOTH WENT THROUGH THAT TOGETHER. YEAH. IT WAS LIKE, WELCOME TO COUNCIL AND HERE'S ALL THIS CONTROVERSY. AND I WAS 100% IN SUPPORT OF THAT. UM, AND TODAY I'M 100% IN, IN SUPPORT OF THAT. BUT I THINK THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE WRONG WAY TO GO. OKAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD, MIKE. OKAY. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IF THAT'S CONSENSUS OR NOT FOR A WORKSHOP ON THIS. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. IS THAT A CONSENSUS FOR A WORKSHOP? I DON'T NEED A WORKSHOP. YOU DON'T NEED A WORKSHOP. SO, SO YOU'RE NO ON WORKSHOP. THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE IT LOOK CLEARLY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE CON UH, CONSENSUS ON, ON THAT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS WILL FAIL. LOOKS LIKE THIS WILL FAIL. OKAY. UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'D AGREE ON THAT. NO. OKAY. FIRST AMENDMENT LANE. WELL, NO. WELL, NO, IT, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA FAIL, SO UNLESS SUPPOSED PASS IT. HUH? YOU DIDN'T MAKE A DECISION. MS. PASS. IT'S EASY. WELL, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS? I'LL, DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT'S UP TO YOU, SIR. SHALL I'LL MAKE A MOTION MOVE TO A WORKSHOP FOR THE CHARLIE KIRK STREET. OKAY. AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. THAT'S A WASTE OF, I'LL FIRST AND A SECOND ON A MOTION FOR THE WORKSHOP. AND AT WORKSHOP AT LEAST WILL GIVE EVERYBODY TIME TO CALM [02:40:01] DOWN AND WE CAN HAVE THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION. UM, SO I'LL DO A ROPE. MS. RUSO. ALRIGHT. I THINK THE, I THINK WE'RE ALL THROWING AROUND A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS RIGHT NOW. YEAH. AND, AND SOME ARE REALLY CRAPPY AND SOME ARE REALLY GOOD. OKAY. UM, BUT I THINK AT THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW, RATHER THAN TAKING A VOTE AND DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS? LET'S TALK AMONGST OURSELVES WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHEN WE CAN COME TOGETHER ON THIS AND HOW WE CAN DO THIS COLLECTIVELY. I GOT HALF TO RUIN. HALF I HAVE HALF. WE HAVE HALF THE CITY SCREAMING AT US AND THE OTHER HALF OF OF THEM PAT US ON THE BACK. THAT'S NOT WHAT I CAME INTO THIS OFFICE FOR. SO INSTEAD OF NAME ASKING FOR A, A MOTION AND A VOTE TONIGHT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP. LET'S TALK WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY. LET'S GO DOWN THAT ROAD AND THEN LET'S MAKE A TIME CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER ON THAT. THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. LET'S, LET'S TAKE THE EMOTIONS OUT OF IT RIGHT NOW. SO YOU WANT AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE NEXT MEETING? THAT WOULD BE GOOD. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT? OKAY. YEAH, LET'S DO IT. NO, NO, NO, NO. NO. GENERAL ITEM TO DETERMINE WHETHER A WORKSHOP SHOULD BE HAD OR NOT. SURE. RIGHT NOW. RIGHT HERE TODAY, THIS MOMENT IS WRONG. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. NO. NEXT. LET'S DO IT. GOOD COMPROMISE. WITH A GOOD COMPROMISE, I THINK SO. THAT'S GOOD COMPROMISE. NEXT MEETING. TALK ABOUT A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT. HAVING TO TALK ABOUT A WORKSHOP. TALK ABOUT A WORKSHOP. TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. SURE. WELL, ACTUALLY, WE MADE A MOTION SECOND. WHY DON'T WE JUST, WELL, UNLESS YOU WANNA DO THE VOTE. YEAH, LET'S DO THE VOTE. LET'S GET THIS DONE. FAMILY. I'M TRYING TO TAKE THE, VI THE TEMPERATURE DOWN. OKAY. WELL, A THREE OR TWO. I GET, I SAID I WOULD HAVE A, I WOULD A . OKAY. WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR, UH, A WORKSHOP. WORKSHOP. A WORKSHOP. UH, ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY NAY. VICE MAYOR NEWMAN. AYE. MAYOR ALFRE AND I VOTE. AYE. AND THAT, THAT MOTION FAILS. SO THERE WILL BE NO WORKSHOP. EVERYBODY THANK YOU. TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET MOVING HERE AGAIN. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT FOR MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 42. WAIT, YOU WANNA HOLD ON UNTIL EVERYBODY GETS OUT? HEY EVERYBODY, LISTEN EVERYBODY, COULD YOU JUST, YOU JUST TAKE YOUR TIME, BUT IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR VOICES DOWN SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THE MEETING. OKAY. GO AHEAD SIR. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS, THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER. CAN WE ASK PEOPLE, CAN WE ASK PEOPLE? OKAY. COULD EVERYBODY PLEASE EXIT SO WE CAN FINISH UP THE MEETING? THANK YOU. DO YOU WANNA TAKE A REAL QUICK RECESS? YES. YEAH, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. UH, WE'LL COME BACK AT, AT 8 48. WE'LL COME BACK AT 8 43 OR 8 53. OKAY. LEMME [03:01:24] HEY, [03:01:24] LET, [03:01:24] LET'S [03:01:24] MOVE FORWARD. IT DOES. AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT. WELL, ADAM SAID IT'S ALL OUR FAULT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO M AND D EARLY IN . THE MILLAGE RATE WAS TOO LOW, RIGHT? RIGHT. ARE YOU LAUGHING ME? IT'S, IT WAS EXISTING DEFERRED. ME IT WAS ALREADY DEFERRED. OH MY GOD. SO MR. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THE BUDGET HEARING WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE. THAT TALKING SECOND WORRY. ALL RIGHT EVERYBODY, WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING ON. LIKE THAT'S WHAT I EXPECTED WHEN. ALL RIGHT, UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE, BE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THIS IS GONNA BE REFERENCED ORDINANCE 20 20, 25, 42, 43, 44. UM, MS. CONLEY, THANK YOU MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF 1.07, PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY AND 0.36 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF ADJACENT ROAD AND CANAL RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF EAST DRIVE, SOUTH OF DOW ROAD AND NORTH OF ELLIS ROAD. 3 25 EAST DRIVE. PROVIDING FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE CORPORATE LIMITS AND BOUNDARIES THEREOF. PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 43, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING APPENDIX D CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY ESTABLISHING AN INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP CLASSIFICATION ON 1.07 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF EAST DRIVE, SOUTH OF DOW ROAD AT NORTH OF ELLIS ROAD. 3 25 EAST DRIVE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 44. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY ESTABLISHING M1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING ON 1.07 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF EAST DRIVE, SOUTH OF DOW ROAD AND NORTH OF ELLIS ROAD 3 25 EAST DRIVE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, REPORT ON THIS IS MS. CINDY DIMMER. UH, YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON SECOND READING FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DIMMER? OKAY. THIS IS A QUA, UH, JUDICIAL, UH, ITEM. ANY DISCLOSURES? I NOTE NO DISCLOSURES TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE NO SIGNUP SHEET AND I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL. YOU GOT NO SIGN UP SHEETS? WANT THERE? ? WE CAN GET SOME, NO. HELL NO. OH, NO . GO AHEAD MA'AM. UM, THERE'S STILL PIZZAS IN THERE. GO EAT ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 40 TWOS BASED UPON THE FINES CONTAINED ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEMORANDUM. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. TANLEY WHO SECOND THAT. MS. KENNEDY FOR, UH, ITEM A, UH, ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AYE. VICE MAYOR NEWMAN. AYE. MAYOR ALFRED AND I VOTE AYE AND I. MOTION PASSES. B MAYOR, GO AHEAD. APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 43 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING OF ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AYE. VICE MAYOR NEWMAN. AYE. MAYOR ALFRE AB VOTE. AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES, UH, ITEM C, UH, APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 44 BASED UPON THE FINEST. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA DO THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SPEECH, SO, I'M SORRY. BASED UPON THE FINEST CON AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. AND I'LL SECOND THAT. HOW'S THAT? WE HAVE A FIRST, UH, SECOND, UH, ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH [03:05:01] AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AYE. VICE MAYOR NEWMAN. AYE. MAYOR AFRI AND I VOTE. AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. AND MS. HANLEY, YOU MAY, YOU MADE THE RECORD LAST MEETING FOR HOW MANY, UH, UH, MOTIONS THAT YOU KNOW, THE FIRST MOTION. SO WE'RE GONNA SEE IF YOU CAN BREAK THAT RULE. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. UH, REPORT ON THIS IS MS. CINDY DIMER, REFERENCE, OR I'M SORRY, MR. CONLEY FOR THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 45 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. PROVIDING FURTHER REPEAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2012 DASH 39 AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR THE SALE OF AND SERVICE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, BEER AND WINE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES IN A 1,957 PLUS OR MINUS SQUARE FOOT UNIT LOCATED ON A 0.26 PLUS OR MINUS, UH, DEVELOPED ACRES ZONE C3 CENTRAL BUSINESS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST OF NEW HAVEN AVENUE, WEST OF GRANT PLACE, AND EAST OF LIVINGSTON STREET SEVEN, UH, 7 0 1 EAST NEW HAVEN AVENUE, PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL PROVIDING THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE GRANTED HEREIN MAY BE REVOKED BY CITY COUNCIL IF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE NOT MET. PROVIDING THAT THE PROPERTY SHALL BE DESIGNATED ON THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP BY THE SYMBOL C DASH C3, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. UH, THANK YOU. I REPORT ON THIS IS MS. DIMMER? UH, YES. NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON SECOND READING FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, UH, THIS IS A QUA, UH, QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM AND DISCLOSURES. I NOTE NO DISCLOSURE IS PUBLIC HEARING, NO SIGNUP SHEET TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL MAYOR, GO AHEAD. APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 45 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. AND I'LL SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY. YES. VICE MAYOR NEWMAN. AYE. MAYOR RE AND I VOTE. AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10 AT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 46. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA RELATING TO WATER AND SEWER RATES AMENDING PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED INCREASES IN SUCH RATES AMENDING CHAPTER 58 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED UTILITIES AMENDING SECTION 58 DASH 1 33. WATER SERVICE RATES AMENDING SECTION 58 DASH 2 43, SEWER SERVICE RATES PROVIDING FOR INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORTING ON THIS IS ROSS MCGINN. UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. UH, ONE ITEM I DO WISH TO ADD TO THIS. I, UH, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED LANGUAGE OR CHANGES NECESSARILY, BUT, UH, WE DO GO THROUGH SURVEILLANCE RATINGS WITH OUR BOND RATING AGENCIES TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF THE SYSTEM IS STILL IN, IN LINE WITH THEIR EXPECTATIONS THAT SUPPORT THE RATING. UH, A BIG PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND, AND A REASON WHY THEY DID NOT ADD A NEGATIVE OUTLOOK ON OUR, OUR FUTURE HIGHER DEBT LOAD HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THIS ORDINANCE HERE TONIGHT. SO I WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT TO COUNCIL, THAT THIS IS, UH, A NECESSARY EVIL. IT ALLOWS US TO KEEP OUR BORROWING COSTS LOWER AND I'M VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO ENSURE THAT WE DO REGULAR RATE STUDIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE APPROPRIATE AND RIGHT SIZED FEET FOR THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCGINN? NO. OKAY. UH, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE NO SIGNUP SHEET. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING BACK TO COUNSEL. MAYOR, GO AHEAD MA'AM. APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 46. SECOND. AND I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY. NOPE. BASSETT. BASSETT. OH, I'M SORRY. I LOOKED DOWN BUT IS MS. BASSETT OKAY, UH, FOR I THIS ITEM? ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY. AYE. VICE MAYOR NEWMAN. AYE. MAYOR A ALFRED. NOW VOTE. AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM UH, 11, WHICH IS CONSENT AGENDA. NOTHING WAS PULLED ITEMS A THROUGH J. UH, MAYOR REAL QUICK. THERE'S A BLUE SHEET ITEM FOR AN ADDITIONAL ITEM. K OH, I ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S RIGHT. UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ON THAT ADAM? K. BUT IT'S A FAIRLY STANDARD PROCESS WE'VE DONE, UH, FOR OTHER, UH, OPIOID SETTLEMENTS, UM, THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA. OKAY. UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT? K. AND WE ADD ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. THEN IT WOULD BE ITEM A THROUGH K. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR, GO AHEAD. FOR, UM, CONSENT ITEMS. A, UM, CONSENT ITEMS FOR A THROUGH J. K. K, A THROUGH K. I'M SORRY. K. 'CAUSE I HEARD J SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND BY MR. SMITH. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE. AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MAYOR, REAL QUICK. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. IT GOT PASSED. ME TOO. CORRECT. UH, THE OPIOID LITIGATION, A UH, IS THERE A DISTRIBUTION, UH, PROCESS WITH THIS AS WELL TOO? IT'LL BE THE SAME. IT'LL BE THE SAME FLORIDA PLAN DISTRIBUTION PROCESS. UM, THE ONLY THING WE DIDN'T KNOW WAS THE EXACT, UH, DOLLAR AMOUNTS BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF A RANGE WITHIN THOSE NATIONAL SETTLEMENTS, SO OKAY. AS, AS THE STATE OF YOU DON'T SEE THE, OKAY. AS THE STATE OF FLORIDA GETS SOME MONEY, IT'LL BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS, UM, TO US AS WELL. GOT IT? YEP. THANKS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13. IT IS, UM, THIS IS GONNA BE ORDERED OF 2025 DASH 47 FOR MR. CONLEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS, UH, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE [03:10:01] PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING APPENDIX D CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT CHAPTER ONE. UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDING FOR THE EXCLUSION OF A 300 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE PORTION OF THE PLATTE RANCH COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER FROM CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN AND UTILITY PROVISION AGREEMENT REQUIREMENTS, UM, TO ADD CPA 20 18 0 7, UH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING ADOPTION SCHEDULE. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, ACTUALLY, UH, REPORT ON THIS IS MS. CINDY DIMMER? YES. DOES MR. CONLEY WANNA YEAH, JUST IT'S, IT'S REFERRING TO A, IT'S REFERRING TO AMENDMENT TO THE MAP, BUT IT'S REALLY A TEXT AMENDMENT, RIGHT? IT IS A TEXT. SO, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CLEAN UP THAT, THAT, UH, SHORT TITLE FOR SECOND READING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT AS RELATED TO THE PLATTE RANCH COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER AND MS. DIMMER CAN SPEAK YEAH. AND NOT TO CONFUSE YOU BY PUTTING A MAP UP , BUT IT IS STILL A TEXT AMENDMENT, BUT IT'S STILL THE PLAT. OKAY. SO, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, SPECIFICALLY FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT POLICY NUMBER 1.1, 1.6, WHICH REFERENCES THE PLATTE RANCH COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER. UM, THE, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT IS TO CHANGE AND EXCLUDE A 300 ACRE PORTION OF PROPERTY ON THE PLAT PROPERTY FROM THE MASTER PLAN AND UTILITY PROVISION REQUIREMENTS. UM, THE MASTER PLAN AND UTILITY PROVISION REQUIREMENTS WILL REMAIN FOR THE, UM, REMAINING 4,000 ACRES, UM, OF THE PLAT RANCH. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE COUNSEL A VISUAL, UM, OF THE PLATTE RANCH PROPERTY AND WHERE THE 300 ACRES, UM, THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF THIS EVENING IS LOCATED. SO THE OUTLINE OF THE OVERALL PROPERTY IS IN THE BLUE. THAT'S THE ENTIRE ENCOMPASSING APPROXIMATELY 4,000 ACRES OF THE PLATTE RANCH. UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THE PINES EAST PROJECT THAT WE REFERENCED, AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT, IS THE RED HATCH, UM, UH, TWO PARCELS LOCATED TO THE VERY FAR EAST, UM, OF THE, THE MAP HERE BETWEEN THE ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, BUT ACTUALLY CLOSER TOWARDS, UM, MINTON ROAD AND THE EASTERN DIRECTION. UM, SO COUNCIL ACTUALLY BACK IN 2018 APPROVED A TRANSMITTAL, UM, FOR THIS TEXT AMENDMENT TO BE, UM, SUBMITTED AND TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE. THE STATE, UM, LAND PLANNING AGENCY REVIEWED IT. THEY HAD NO COMMENTS. IT CAME BACK TO THE CITY. AND THEN AT THAT POINT THE OWNER REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT, UM, FOR ADOPTION. THAT WAS AMONGST OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER CITIES AND, AND OTHER, UM, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND VARIOUS ISSUES. UM, SO WE'VE GONE FOR THE LAST, UM, GOSH, ALMOST SEVEN YEARS NOW WITH THAT BEING, UM, POSTPONED AND OR FIVE YEARS ANYWAY. YEAH, IT WAS POSTPONED TO 2026. SO, UM, SIX TO SEVEN YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN POSTPONED, AWAITING THAT SO THAT WE DIDN'T LOSE THAT ORIGINAL TRANSMITTAL. UM, THE OWNER AND OWNERS, THE PLAT FAMILY AND THE DEVELOPERS, DR. HORTON, ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME. AND SO THEY'VE REQUESTED, UH, COUNSEL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH ADOPTION OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, BY ORDINANCE FORM, WHICH IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU, UM, THIS EVENING. UH, SO THE PLAT FAMILY IS IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING THE 300 ACRE PORTION THAT YOU SEE THERE, UM, TO THE DEVELOPER WHO PLANS TO BUILD 529 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE 300 ACRE PORTION THAT YOU SEE HERE. UM, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL, UM, ADJACENT PIECE OF LAND THAT WILL ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL HOMES PROPOSED ON IT, UM, WITH SOME SUBSEQUENT ANNEXATION APPLICATIONS, UM, INTO THE CITY. THE OVERALL NEW, UM, DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF PREVIOUSLY IT WAS CALLED SAWGRASS. WE SAWGRASS LAKES WEST NOW THE NAME IS THE PINES EAST. AND, UM, THE POTABLE WATER SERVICE WILL CONTINUE AS BEFORE TO BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS, UM, APPROACHED THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE AS THEY HAVE VERY READILY AVAILABLE SANITARY SEWER TO THIS, UM, PROJECT, ASKING TO, UM, ALLOW THE CONNECTION OF THEIR PROJECT TO WEST MELBOURNE'S SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. UH, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE ADDED INTO THE TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, THAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING ALSO NOW REQUIRES A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT WILL OUTLINE THE DETAILS OF THE WATER AND SEWER CONNECTIONS, TIMEFRAME, LONGEVITY OF THAT, UM, WILL ALL BE, UM, ALL BE BEFORE COUNCIL WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS COME THROUGH WITH THE, UM, ANNEXATION OF THE ADJACENT PAR PROPERTY, THE REZONING AND THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WILL SHOW, UM, THE BASIC LAYOUT OF THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION. UM, SO, UM, WITH THAT, AS [03:15:01] I SAID, THOSE APPLICATIONS WILL BE FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. THERE'S ALSO A TRAFFIC STUDY UNDERWAY. UM, ADDITIONALLY THE STUDY WILL INCLUDE, UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY THE DEVELOPER, UM, HAS, UH, WORKED WITH THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE AND THEY'LL BE FOUR LANE NORFOLK PARKWAY, UH, FROM MITTEN ROAD TO THE, UM, WESTERN EXTENT OF THE WEST MELBOURNE, UM, CITY LIMITS THERE. SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, IN THE TIME THAT HAS ELAPSED SINCE, UH, COUNCIL SAW THIS TEXT AMENDMENT LAST TIME, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE. AND I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE A COUPLE OF THOSE CHANGES. NUMBER ONE, THE NAME OF THE PROJECT'S CHANGED. UM, SO THE REFERENCE OF, UM, THAT HAS CHANGED IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT. UM, ADDITIONALLY, AS I MENTIONED, THE CHANGE IN REQUESTING, UM, THE SEWER SERVICE TO INITIALLY RUN THROUGH THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE. SO THAT LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED. AND THEN BECAUSE OF THAT WE'VE ADDED THE LANGUAGE IN ABOUT THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT AND CLARIFYING ALL OF THOSE DETAILS WITHIN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. UM, SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE, THE MAIN CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT SINCE THE CITY COUNCIL SAW IT, UM, BROUGHT PRIOR TO TRANSMITTAL TO THE STATE, UM, AGENCY, UH, FOR REVIEW. AND, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID REVIEW THIS BACK IN 2018 BECAUSE OF WHERE IT WAS IN THE PROCESS. THIS JUST COMES BACK TO, TO CITY COUNCIL. UH, HAPPY TO EXPLAIN ANYMORE OF THE LANGUAGE CHANGE. WE DID PUT A DOCUMENT IN YOUR, UM, PACKAGE TO, TO SHOW YOU NOT JUST THE ORDINANCE YOU'RE, UM, APPROVING THIS EVENING, BUT WE ALSO SHOWED YOU THE PREVIOUS TEXT LANGUAGE AND WHAT WE HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN. SO, UM, THERE'S NOT ANY QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S CHANGED. UM, AND SO WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING APPROVAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 47 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. PERFECT. ALRIGHT. UM, GO AHEAD. QUESTION. THE, THE, THE CHANGE, I THINK WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ABOUT THE SEWER. UM, WAS THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MELBOURNE SEWER CONNECTION AT THE TIME AND NOW WEST MELBOURNE IS GONNA GET THAT SEWER CONNECTION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS, THAT IS THE PLAN TODAY. THAT'S BANK TODAY. STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASE, THEY'RE STILL DESIGNING IT, BUT THAT IS THE PLAN TODAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER PROPERTY IN MEL IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE THAT, UH, IS CONNECTED TO WEST MELBOURNE SEWER? I CAN'T CLEARLY SAY IT IS JUST A KNEE JERK. I'M JUST CURIOUS THERE. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE ARE ANY THAT HAVE WEST MELBOURNE SEWER MM-HMM . HOWEVER I CAN SAY THAT THERE ARE, WE HAVE SEVERAL PARCELS THAT HAVE MELBOURNE WATER OR MELBOURNE WATER, WEST MELBOURNE SEWER. RIGHT. UM, BECAUSE, AND, AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE IN WEST MELBOURNE RIGHT. THAT HAVE THAT ARRANGEMENT. AND THE VERY NEWEST ONE IS THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S AT THE CORNER OF ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY. SURE. AND, UM, AND 1 92 THAT, THAT BRAND NEW COMPLEX HAS CITY OF MELBOURNE WATER, AND THEY CONSENTED FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT. AND THEY'RE, IT'S IN WEST MELBOURNE. THEY'RE PROVIDING, PROVIDING, WE ALSO HAVE THE, I GUESS MY CONCERN THOUGH IS AS I FINISH THE, MY, MY QUESTION IS THAT ARE THEY STARTING TO, UH, ENCROACH ON WHAT OUR WATER SUPPLY IS? ARE THEY ASKING LIKE, DR. HORTON, WE SHOULD BE SUPPLYING YOU THE WATER? WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS? NO, NO. WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT ARGUMENT YET. RIGHT? NO, WE ARE NOT HAVING THE ARGUMENT, ARGUMENT ABOUT WATER PROVISION. OUR, OUR WATER LINES ARE ALREADY OUT THERE. THIS REALLY COMES FROM THE PRACTICALITY OF THE, THE WATER AND SEWER THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH I TRUST IN PROXIMITY TO THE, UM, TO THE PROPERTY. OKAY. UM, IT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT, I THINK WE ALL ASSUMED ALONG THE WAY THAT DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAPPEN ON THE PLATTE RANCH ALONG THE ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY FIRST. BUT THIS ISN'T THE AREA THAT WE WERE EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT TO, TO FIRST COME. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT BRINGING UTILITIES SOUTH DOWN THE PARKWAY. UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT'S NOT HAPPENING IN PROXIMITY TO ACCESS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO BRING. WELL, I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION YEARS AGO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AS IT WAS BEING, UH, DEVELOPED AND IT WAS BEING BUILT THAT, AND THEN THE PLAT RANCH, WHAT A FIGHT THAT WAS TO GET THAT, UH, ANNEX INTO OUR CITY. MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND NOTHING CONTIGUOUS. I SEE NOTHING CONTIGUOUS THERE, BUT YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON IT. WELL, AND ANOTHER EXAMPLE, UH, UM, COUNCILMAN LARUSSA THAT WE HAVE, UM, CITY OF MELBOURNE WATER AND COUNTY SEWER PROVISION IN A FAIR AMOUNT OF PROPERTIES NORTH OF POST ROAD. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT, CINDY, YOU'VE SEEN SO MANY MOVING PARTS ON THIS OVER THE YEARS. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING IT IN FOR A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW, ADAM, YOU'VE BEEN WAVING TO ME. HI. JUST, UM, FOR, FOR REALLY FOR ALL OF COUNSEL, RIGHT. THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S PROPOSED IS, IS REALLY ATTEMPTING TO LIMIT THAT CONSENT [03:20:01] OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE CONSENTING TO WEST MELBOURNE PROVIDING SEWER WITHIN, WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. RIGHT. IT WAS, IT WAS DRAFTED VERY MUCH TO, TO BE FOCUSED JUST ON, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST CREEK OPEN THE DOOR, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU CINDY. THANK YOU ADAM. WE CAN GO, IT CAN GO THE OTHER WAY. WELL, THERE, AS, AS JENNY SAID THERE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT ALREADY HAS GONE THE OTHER WAY. RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT THAT LEVEL OF CONSENT HAS BEEN LESS FORMAL, IT'S BEEN MORE ON A, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT. BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR ALONG NEW HAVEN AND THAT HAS PLENTY OF CROSSOVER OF, OF UTILITY PROVISION. I ONLY ASK AND I'LL, AND I'LL SHORTEN IT NOW. THANK YOU. I ONLY ASK THIS BECAUSE THIS IS SO CRITICAL TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. I MEAN, THIS GROWTH OUT HERE, I WON'T EVEN BE AROUND ANYMORE. MAY MAYBE MAYBE YOU CAN BEAR ME OUT IN, IN THE TOP CORNER UP THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, THE, THE, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S CRITICAL TO OUR GROWTH. I MEAN, IT TRULY IS MAYBE A BROWNFIELD, THE, THE REMAIN, THE REMAINDER, THE REMAINDER OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THIS PLATTE RANCH COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER ABSOLUTELY. ANTICIPATES PROVISION OF CITY OF MELBOURNE UTILITIES AS, AS DEVELOPED THROUGH WITH, WITH THAT DEVELOPER AND EXTENDED THROUGH THROUGH THAT. SO THIS IS, THANK YOU. THIS IS THE ONE EXCEPTION TO THAT GENERAL PLAN. OKAY. AND WE ALREADY HAVE SEWER LINE ALL THE WAY, I BELIEVE, ALMOST TO THE 1 92 ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY INTERSECTION. SO, AND THAT WAS INSTALLED WHEN THE ROAD WAS PUT IN. AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALMOST TO THEIR PROPERTY AT THIS TIME. AND AS WE SAID OVER THE YEARS, THE BIGGEST FIGHT THAT FLORIDA'S GONNA HAVE WITH ANY OF ITS NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES IS GONNA BE WHAT? WATER PERIOD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE EXTENSION. NO, YOU'RE FINE. GOOD DISCUSSION. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. YEAH. GOOD MS. HANLEY. OKAY. UM, I HAVE A THING, I'M BACK WITH THE SEWER. I'M WORRIED WE, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GROWTH LIKE MR. LARUSSO SAID AND HAVING WEST MELBOURNE AND WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH WEST MELBOURNE. WILL THEY, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THEM COMING IN LATER ON AND SAYING, NO, YOU HAVE TO ANN IT, WE'RE GONNA ANN IT BECAUSE OF THE TWO DIFFERENT UTILITIES. HEY, ON ANNEX OUT OF MELBOURNE, ANNEX INTO WEST MELBOURNE. SO, AND MY OTHER THING IS, WEST MELBOURNE HAS A LIMITED GROWTH SPOT RIGHT NOW. WE, I'M DISTRICT FIVE, WE ALMOST ENCOMPAS. SHE'S ON ONE SIDE, THE OTHER SIDE AND THEN PALM BAY IS AROUND. WE, WE ENCOMPASS THIS WHOLE THING. IF WE ALLOW, I KNOW THAT I'M SAYING BAD, BUT IF WE ALLOW THEM, THEY CAN START MO MOVING WESTWARD. AND SO OUR CITY, BUT DO THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY? YOU ALL ARE IN CONTROL OF THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO DE ANNEX ANY PROPERTY FOR IT TO BE ANNEXED INTO ANOTHER CITY. BUT THE OTHER THING IS, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THEY HAVE WATER COMING IN FROM MELBOURNE SEWER GOING OUT THERE AND WHETHER THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM. NOT TODAY, TOMORROW, MAYBE FIVE YEARS, IN 10 YEARS. AND WHY DID THEY DO THIS THEN? WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST MAKE, JUST GO AHEAD, PUT THE LINES IN AND BE DONE WITH IT SO, SO WE CAN GET THE TAX DOLLARS. RIGHT. SO AS MR. CONLEY MENTIONED TOO, SO ALL OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE COMP PLAN, UM, POLICY THAT'S THERE NOW, THAT BASICALLY DI DICTATES A LOT OF DETAIL FOR, FOR HOW THESE 4,000 ACRES HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED. ONE OF THE, THE PRIMARY REQUIREMENTS IN THERE IS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE PROVIDING WATER AND SEWER. AND, AND SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING BUT THIS 300 ACRE WEST MELBOURNE COULD CLAIM ALL THEY WANT. BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR COMP PLAN STATES THAT WE WILL DO. BECAUSE I, I HAVE CLIENTS THAT ARE IN WEST MELBOURNE RIGHT NOW THAT WANT TO BE OUT OF WEST MELBOURNE WITH PASSION IF WE COULD ANNEX THEM IN. AND THEY SAID THERE'S SO MUCH DRAMA THERE THAT IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO WORK. SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, OKAY, MELBOURNE WILL LET US DO IT, BUT WEST MELBOURNE WILL LET US DO THAT. IT'S ALL IT'S TAKEN CARE OF. IT REALLY IS. IT'S SO SET, SO SET IN STONE. I DON'T, I'M I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ONE SPOT WITH THE, WITH THE SEWER. I, I'M JUST WORRIED YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN THINGS WITH WEST MELBOURNE. WEST MELBOURNE. I KNOW MAYOR. YOU UNDERSTAND MAYOR. YEAH, GO AHEAD. UM, I, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ONLY GOING TO GO TO WEST MELBOURNE FOR THE SEWER. WE STILL RETAIN WATER AND WE STILL RETAIN PROPERTY TAX. YES, MA'AM. AND THE, THE LONGEVITY OF THE TIMEFRAME OF HOW LONG THEY'RE ON SEWER, THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF MOVING PARTS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WORK OUT AND HAVE DETAILED IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. SO CITY COUNCIL WILL SEE THIS AGAIN. UM, IT WILL INCLUDE AN ANNEXATION OF THE ADJACENT PIECE. IT'LL INCLUDE A REZONING TO PUD TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND IT'LL HAVE A PRELIMINARY [03:25:01] DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND IT'LL ALSO HAVE A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WITH IT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DO WE, OKAY. WHAT'S OUR ACTION ON THIS? MAYOR? MAYOR? THE, UH, I'M SORRY, IT'S, YEAH, I, JUDICIAL ITEM AND DISCLOSURES. IT'S ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE YEP. THE APPLICANT'S PRESENT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND IT YEP. NO DISCLOSURES. AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THE APPLICANT, UH, APPLICANT IS HERE. HUH? JUST AVAILABLE. JUST AVAILABLE. ANY QUESTION FOR THEM? NOPE. NO. OKAY. THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND, AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING 'EM BACK TO COUNSEL. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS? MAYOR? GO AHEAD OF, UM, APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 70 47 BASED UPON THE FINES CONTAINED ON PLANNING AND ZONING MEMORANDUM. WHY I'M PUSHING THAT. ONE SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE. AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER 14, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 48. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA RELATING TO FIRE PREVENTION DIVISION, INSPECTION FEES, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING CHAPTER 28 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION, AMENDING SECTION 28 DASH 46. PLAN REVIEW, FIRE PREVENTION, SAFETY INSPECTION, AND PUBLIC EDUCATION TRAINING FEES AMENDING SECTION 28 DASH 49, ELECTRONIC REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS FEES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. REPORT, REPORT ON THIS IS MR. JAMES HARDEN. AND GENTLEMEN, LADIES, HOW DOING? IT'S BEEN AN EVENTFUL NIGHT. , AND WE'RE EARNING OUR, THEIR SEVEN GRAND. ALL RIGHT, . UM, OKAY, SO THIS, ARE YOU GONNA, YOU WANNA DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION OR YOU WANT ME TO DO IT, OR I'M SORRY, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE. YEAH, WE DIDN'T. OKAY. UM, DO YOU MIND ME JUMP JUMPING IN? YEAH, GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO I'LL LET HIM ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THOUGH. YEAH. BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE INS AND OUTS OF IT. SO, UM, CURRENTLY OUR FIRE PREVENTION, OUR FIRE INSPECTION, UM, FEES ARE IN CODE AND THE ACTUAL FEE AMOUNTS ARE IN CODE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED IN, IT'S BEEN MORE THAN 20 YEARS SINCE THOSE HAVE BEEN UPDATED. I THINK LAST, AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE TALKED ON THE FIRST READING FOR THE UTILITY RATES, I THINK I WAS QUESTIONED IF WE HAD ANY OTHER RATES CHANGING OR INCREASING. I MENTIONED THIS ONE. AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT, AND SINCE WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, IS THE ORDINANCE IS TAKING THE FEES OUT OF CODE, LIKE WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO WITH MANY OF OUR OTHER FEES THAT ARE IN CODE. WE PUT THEM IN RESOLUTION. SO THEN WHEN WE CHANGE THEM, IT IS BY RESOLUTION. WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY CHANGING THE CODE BOOK. AND WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS AGENDA PACKAGE IS THE PROPOSED FEES, I THINK ARE THE LAST ITEM OF THIS AGENDA. AND SO WHEN WE BRING THIS BACK FOR SECOND READING, THERE WILL BE A RESOLUTION. SO WE'LL HAVE THE, THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE. IF YOU SURPASS IT TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE THE RESOLUTION ATTACHED TO IT WITH THE FEES IN PLACE. BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE RIGHT SIZING THE FEES OR, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THE THE BEST WAY TO SAY THAT. SO I THINK THE EXAMPLES THAT WERE USED, IF YOU HAD A SEVEN BREW CO COFFEE, THEY PAID THE SAME AMOUNT AS WALMART OR L THREE HARRIS, OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFERENT LEVEL OF INSPECTION AND VERY VARYING TIMES OF INSPECTION. SO WE'RE TRYING TO RIGHT SIZE THE FEE TO GO WITH THE ACTUAL INSPECTION SERVICES. SO MANY PEOPLE WILL PAY LESS. MANY OF OUR SMALLER BUSINESSES, I SAY SMALLER, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE TABLE THERE, RIGHT? ARE PAYING LESS THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY PAY. SOME BUSINESSES WILL PAY MORE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE SPEND MORE TIME THERE AND WE, IT TAKES MORE OF AN EFFORT. AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT. AND SO THE, FOR THE SECOND READING, WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS WE'LL BE THE FIRST READING TAKES OUT ALL REFERENCE OF THOSE, THOSE DOLLAR VALUES IN THE CODE. AND THEN IT WILL, IT REFERS TO A AS SET BY RESOLUTION. AND THEN SECOND READING, WE WILL BRING THE RESOLUTION FORTH AND THIS WILL BRING OUR FEES MORE IN LINE WITH OUR OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE NEAREST PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, TITUSVILLE. WERE WELL BEHIND THEM. YEAH, MAYOR. OKAY. GOOD SIR. QUICK QUESTION. ALRIGHT, SO HANG TIGHT. I GOT A QUESTION FOR MS. LAMB. UM, WE DID THIS, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, I'M COMPARING THE SAME THINGS, BUT ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WE CHANGED IT OVER TO WHERE THERE WAS A SECOND PARTY THAT WOULD COME IN, ANOTHER CONTRACTOR THAT WOULD COME IN AND THEN THEY WOULD DO THE HOOD INSPECTION. THAT'S WHERE IT LANDED FOR ME BECAUSE OF, UM, MY PROFESSION. SO IS THIS, ARE THESE FEES INCLUDED IN THAT? I MEAN, YOU GO OUT AND YOU DO THE HOOD INSPECTION, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR. SO THIS IS, SO THEY PLUG IT IN AND THEY SEND IT TO US. PERIODIC FIRE INSPECTION, WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS BRIER AND THAT'S THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS. THEY UPLOAD THE REPORT AND THAT SYSTEM THAT MONITORS AND SENDS THE NOTIFICATIONS ON THAT RIGHT. EVERY SIX [03:30:01] MONTHS, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT DEPENDS ON THE SYSTEM. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. HOODS ARE EVERY SIX MONTHS. YEAH. ALRIGHT. BUT, BUT THIS IS, THESE FEES, THOSE FEES ARE, ARE INCLUDED IN THIS. ARE THOSE FEES INCREASING AS WELL TOO? THOSE FEES ARE SET BY BRYCE AND WE DON'T REGULATE THOSE FEES. BUT THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS. THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS? NO. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I ASKED. THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . OKAY. ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS? MAYOR? UH, GO AHEAD MA'AM. APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 48. SECOND. A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, SECOND BY MRS. BASSETT. UH, ALL THOSE THAT FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE. AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM 15. DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT 15 OR DO WE WANNA POSTPONE IT? THAT'S UP TO Y ALL POSTPONE IT. IT'S LIKE LATE. DO Y'ALL WANT TO BURN OUT? ? THEY'VE BEEN SITTING OH, NO. IF THEY OR OH, THEY'VE BEEN SITTING IF YOU'RE, IF NO, NO. IF YOU'RE SITTING THERE, WE'RE GONNA DO IT. WE'RE GONNA, YEAH. OKAY. NO, NO, NO. I, I, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, WE'RE MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER 15. UM, BUT YOU COULD ONLY TALK TWO MINUTES INSTEAD OF THREE. OKAY. , IF YOU WOULD'VE SAID THAT AN HOUR AGO, I WOULD'VE BEEN ALL FOUR. FOUR. SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BEGIN THERE. IT'S A BIT OF A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FOR THIS DISCUSSION ITEM IN TERMS OF THE STAFF PRESENTATION. SO I'LL, I'LL START. BUT I BELIEVE MS. LAMB AND, AND MS. CALDWELL WILL ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION TO, UH, TO PROVIDE AND, AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. UM, AS, AS STATED IN, UH, OUR OFFICES, UM, UH, MEMO TO COUNCIL, UM, THERE WAS A, A DISCUSSION IN JULY, A ABOUT LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS AND PARTICULARLY ABOUT ACTIVITIES AT, AT RIVERVIEW PARK. UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST, UM, FROM COUNCIL TO OUR OFFICE AND STAFF TO, TO BRING BACK ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND, AND TO, AND TO REVIEW THE EXISTING, UH, ORDINANCE LANGUAGE. UM, I I WON'T GO THROUGH THE, THE ENTIRE MEMO OVER AGAIN. I JUST HAVE A FEW BULLET POINTS TO, TO POINT OUT AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. UM, AGAIN, LAR LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS WITHIN CODE ARE A SUBCATEGORY OF OUTDOOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLY. UM, IT'S DEFINED AS AN EVENT INTENDED OR ADVERTISED TO ATTRACT, ATTRACTING, OR LIKELY TO ATTRACT 15 OR MORE PEOPLE, INCLUDING DISTRIBUTORS AND SERVERS IN A CITY PARK OR PARK FACILITY, INCLUDING THE ADJACENT, UH, SIDEWALK AND RIGHTS OF WAY PREDOMINANTLY FOR THE DELIVERY OF, UM, SERVICE OF FOOD, UH, RELEVANT, UH, CASE LAWS, RECOGNIZED FOOD DISTRIBUTION AS A MANNER OF EXPRESSIVE CONDUCT WITH FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS. UM, DESPITE IT, DESPITE FOOD DISTRIBUTION BEING EXPRESSIVE CONDUCT WITH FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS, THE CITY IS STILL ABLE TO REGULATE, UM, THAT MANNER OF EXPRESSIVE CONDUCT IN A CONTENT NEUTRAL MANNER FOR THE TIME, PLACE, AND MANNER OF THAT CONDUCT. UH, THOSE SAME COURTS, UH, DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE RECOGNIZE THE CITY'S IMPORTANT GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST IN MANAGING THE USE OF PARK PROPERTY AND EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTING AND THE ANY BURDEN OF LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UH, THE CITY'S CURRENT, UH, LARGE GROUP FEEDING REGULATIONS WERE ADOPTED, UH, BY ORDINANCE 2014 DASH 69. AND THE REGULATIONS WERE GUIDED BY THE FEDERAL CASE LAW FROM A CITY OF ORLANDO CASE FROM 2011. UM, THAT CASE LAW REMAINS THE RELEVANT, UH, LAW ON THIS TOPIC. THE CURRENT CODE LANGUAGE REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH THAT FEDERAL CASE LAW BY IMPOSING CONTENT NEUTRAL RULES AND REGULATIONS ON THE TIME, PLACE, AND MANNER. UM, WHERE THAT EXPRESSIVE, UH, ACTIVITY CAN OCCUR. ANY NEW OR AMENDED REGULATIONS MUST SATISFY FIRST AMENDMENT INTERMEDIATE SCRUTINY ANALYSIS IN THAT IT HAS TO BE CONTENT NEUTRAL, SERVE AN IDENTIFIED SIGN, SIGNIFICANT GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST, BE NARROWLY TAILORED TO FURTHER THAT IDENTIFIED GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST, INCLUDE REASONABLE INDEFINITE STANDARDS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION MAKING AND LEAVE OPEN AMPLE ALTERNATIVE WAYS FOR EXERCISING THE EXPRESSIVE CONDUCT. UH, AGAIN, CITY STAFF, UM, HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BOTH IN YOUR PACKET, UM, AND IN I BELIEVE POWERPOINT FORM, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE EXISTING ROSTER OF COMMUNITY PARKS FOR LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS, THE AMENITIES OF THOSE PARKS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS OCCURRING AT AT CITY PARKS. UM, I, I WILL DEFER TO THEM UP FOR, FOR THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO PROVIDE YOU AND OUR OFFICE STANDS READY TO DISCUSS ANY, UH, POSSIBLE REVISIONS TO 42 DASH 19 OF CITY CODE. SO I'LL JUMP IN NOW AS NIKKI IS COMING UP THAT IF YOU WANNA HEAD ON UP. BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, PARKS, REC AND GOLF DEPARTMENT, AND POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE SAT DOWN NUMEROUS TIMES. WE HAVE EVALUATED A RANGE OF OPTIONS TO MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF OPPORTUNITY WHILE ALSO DISTRIBUTING THE LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS AMONG VARIOUS CITY PARKS. UM, GIVEN THE CURRENT AMENITIES AND PROGRAMMED ACTIVITIES THAT THE CITY COMMUNITY PARKS WE'RE CHALLENGED IN IDENTIFYING SOME OF THOSE. SO, SO, MS. CALDWELL, SORRY, I, UM, IS GOING TO BE, UM, GOING OVER WHERE IS ALLOWED RIGHT NOW BY CODE AND WHAT [03:35:01] THE DIFFERENT, UM, ACTIONS ARE THAT WE TAKE, UM, AND WHAT, WHAT ACTIVITIES OCCUR THERE. SO WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. ALRIGHT, SO, NIKKI CALDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS, RECREATION, GOLF. WELL, GOOD EVENING. SO WE REVIEWED ALL OF THE AMENITIES IN EACH PARK, ALL OF OUR PROGRAMMED ACTIVITIES, AND CREATED THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION WITH THE MAPS SHOWING THE ACREAGE WHERE ALL THE AMENITIES ARE LOCATED WITHIN EACH PARK. SO THESE ARE CURRENTLY WHERE THE LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS BY CODE ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE PLACE. SO THE FIRST ONE IS SOUTHWEST PARK. IT'S 38 POINT 11 ACRES. PARK HOURS ARE 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM YOU CAN SEE ALL THE AMENITIES LISTED OUT IN THE MAP AND THE AMENITIES BULLET AND THE PROGRAM ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE SOFTBALL ALL YEAR, MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAYS, AND FRIDAYS IN THE EVENINGS. SOCCER IS ALL YEAR. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM FOUR TO NINE. SATURDAY, EIGHT TO EIGHT. THEN WE ALSO USE THE SOCCER FIELDS FOR FOOTBALL FOR SOME TEAMS. AND THAT'S AUGUST TO NOVEMBER, FEBRUARY TO MAY, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, THREE TO NINE, SATURDAY SEVEN TO 10. AND THEN WE HAVE FIELD RENTALS FOR ALL OF THOSE FIELDS. SO YOU CAN SEE WE ALSO HAVE THE DOG PARK PLAYGROUND. SO THE, AND, AND I'M GONNA JUMP IN JUST FOR A SECOND. SO RIGHT NOW OUR CODE SAYS THAT, UM, GROUP, LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS ARE ALLOWED IN SOUTHWEST PARK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM YES. WHAT IS IT, WHERE DO WE SEE THAT? I, IT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE ON PAGE TWO 16. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN. I JUST GOT IT. OKAY. I'LL ADD THAT FOR THE OTHERS. GO AHEAD. UH, SO ONLY MONDAY THROUGH THROUGH FRIDAY? MM-HMM . YES. ONLY IN PARTICULAR. SO, SO THE WEEKENDS NOT CURRENTLY AT THIS PARK? NO, WE CURRENTLY, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PARKS THAT WE'RE GOING WITH. YES, YES. YOU KNOW, THE, THE AVAILABILITIES MM-HMM . AND WHAT THE, UH, RESIDENTS FROM RIVERVIEW ARE, UH, REQUESTING OF US. SO EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, I WANNA CHECK OFF A COUPLE BOXES HERE. OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP, GO AHEAD. UM, MS. CALDWELL, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SORRY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS AT SOUTHWEST PARK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, I GET IT. UM, BUT IS THERE A RESTRICTED AREA THAT THE GROUP FEEDINGS HAVE TO BE IN? ARE THEY AT THE PAVILION? ARE THEY IN THE CENTER? IS THERE A DESIGNATED AREA THAT THEY NEED TO BE IN OR NOT? THERE IS NOT A DESIGNATED AREA, BUT IF SOMEONE WERE TO REQUEST, WE WOULD MOST LIKELY PUT THEM AT THE PAVILION. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HOW MUCH IS THE PAVILION? I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION CURRENTLY. OKAY. UM, THEY VARY BY SIZE IN EACH PARK, SMALL, MEDIUM, AND LARGE PAVILIONS. AND RIVERVIEW PAVILION IS ANOTHER COST AND SOME PARKS THAT JUST HAVE GREEN SPACE IS A DIFFERENT COST. SO. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ONE IS EDDIE LEE TAYLOR. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT ME TO READ ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. SO THESE, UM, THE LARGE GROUP FEEDING DAYS AND HOURS AT EDDIE LEE TAYLOR CURRENTLY ARE ALSO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AND AGAIN, IF REQUESTED, THERE'S A LARGE PAVILION IN BETWEEN THE TWO PONDS, AND THAT IS ONE OPTION THAT COULD BE, UM, A, A FEEDING TAKING PLACE. THE NEXT PARK CURRENTLY IS CRANE, 13.29 ACRES. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE AMENITIES, THE FIELDS, THE DOG PARK. WE AGAIN HAVE A LARGE PAVILION. AND AGAIN, THIS IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10 TO TWO OH AND CARVER PARK ACREAGE, 7.48, PLAYGROUND, BASKETBALL, BASEBALL FIELD, THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S LEASED BY PAL AND AGAIN, A LARGE PAVILION. AND MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10 TO TWO. AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, PROGRAMS WE HAVE. WE HAVE FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, SUMMER CAMP, AND PELL RUNS AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM ALONG WITH SUMMER CAMPS FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. THE NEXT PARK IS RIVERVIEW, UH, 15.4 ACRES. THERE'S PLAYGROUND, UM, A LARGE PAVILION, THE NON-MOTORIZED BOAT RAMP, A WALKING TRAIL. AND AT THIS PARK, [03:40:01] THE CURRENT, UH, LARGE GROUP FEEDING IS SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS FROM 10 TO TWO OR FOUR TO FIVE. WELLS PARK IS 32.56 ACRES. THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE AUDITORIUM PARKING AND LARGE FIELD. ON THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A PLAYGROUND, NO RESTROOMS, UM, SMALL PAVILIONS, AND THERE ARE NO ACTIVITIES EXCEPT THE OCCASIONAL RENTAL. AND WELLS PARK IS AVAILABLE MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY FROM 10 TO TWO. SO EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. JIMMY MOORE PARK, 20.35 ACRES, A LOT OF ACTIVITIES WITH PICKLEBALL, THE BASEBALL FIELD, PAVILIONS, PLAYGROUND AREAS. THERE IS A LARGE PAVILION. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PROGRAMMED ACTIVITIES. PICKLEBALL IS PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY, ALL DAY AND NIGHT ON THIS PARK IS AVAILABLE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, 10 TO TWO AND FOUR TO FIVE. AND SO THAT WRAPS UP THE CURRENT PARK LOCATIONS CURRENTLY IN CODE AND DAYS AND TIMES OF ALLOWABLE FEEDINGS. MAYOR, OH, , SORRY. UH, NO, CHRIS. UH, SO NIKKI, HOW DO, WHAT'S THE, WHAT GOES INTO THE DETERMINATION AS FAR AS THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OR THE WEEKEND SCHEDULE? WHAT, WHAT, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT GOES INTO THAT DETERMINATION. THIS WAS DETERMINED IN 2014, SO I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT IS BASED UPON ACTIVITIES ON THE WEEKENDS, UM, AND MORE ACTIVITIES ON WEEKENDS IN SOME PARKS THAN OTHERS. SO, AND SO WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE STARTED DOING OUR EVALUATION, THAT WAS MAKING SENSE ON WHAT WAS WEEKDAY AND WHAT WAS WEEKEND BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PARKS HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE BASEBALL, THE, UM, FOOTBALL, THE SOCCER ON ALL DAY SATURDAY LONG. SO IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO MAKE THEM A WEEKEND PARK IN SAY, 10 TO TWO WHEN WE ALREADY HAD THAT PARK INUNDATED WITH SO MANY PEOPLE AND THERE WOULD BE LACK OF PARKING AND THE PAVILIONS MOST LIKELY WOULD BE USED IF THE BALL FIELDS ARE BEING USED, MORE ACTIVITY IN THE PARK. SO THERE WOULD BE LESS SPACE FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE A LARGE GROUP FEEDING. ALRIGHT, THEN, UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WHAT HAS BEEN THE USAGE AS FAR AS LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS? WHICH PARTS ARE THE MOST POPULAR? OR WHAT IS THERE DO WE KNOW? CURRENTLY ONLY RIVERVIEW IS USED FOR LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS, WHICH IS EVERY SUNDAY FOR ABOUT 13 MONTHS NOW. AND PREVIOUS TO THAT, UH, WELLS PARK HAS BEEN USED BEFORE, UH, NOT IN RECENT MONTHS. AND SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY AT ANY OTHER PARK THAT I KNOW OF THERE. THESE ARE, THESE AREN'T OFTEN, OR THERE'S NOT OFTEN LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS ANYWHERE? RIGHT. PRIOR, BASICALLY PRIOR, PRIOR TO THE LAST 13 MONTHS, I'D SAY THE USE, THE, THE REQUEST FOR LARGE GROUP FEEDING PERMITS WAS SPORADIC. YEAH. AND NOW WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE, THE FREQUENCY NOW? JUST RIVERVIEW EVERY WEEK, JUST THE WEEK FOR 13 MONTHS. THIS, THIS SUNDAY, ONCE A MONTH. THE SUN? NO, IT'S NO'S. EVERY, EVERY SUNDAY. OH, EVERY SUNDAY? CORRECT. OKAY. YES. SINCE THE, FOR 13 MONTHS. NOW. FOR 13 MONTHS. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PARK, THE ONLY REQUEST. MR. LARISSA. THANK YOU. UM, IS THERE ONLY ONE VENDOR ASKING YES. VENDOR AS A, AS A BROAD BRUSH WORD, YOU KNOW, AS TO WHO IS PROVIDING THE GROUP FEEDINGS? YES. IS THERE CURRENTLY? YES. AND WHO IS THAT ONE VENDOR? THE FOOD NON BOMBS GROUP. FOOD NON BOMBS. SO NOBODY ELSE IS REQUESTING A, A PERMIT AT ANY OTHER PARK FOR ANY OTHER GROUP FEEDINGS NOT, NOT AT THIS TIME. RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. YEP. NOT AT THIS TIME. YOU KNOW WHO THE PARTICIPANTS ARE. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL. JUST THE RANDOM. WE GET A RANDOM REQUEST EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A RANDOM REQUEST IS. ONE PER ONE GROUP DOING IT ONE DAY AT ONE PARK. BUT FOOD NON BOMBS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS BEEN REGULARLY EVERY WEEK FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. ONLY REASON I ASKED BECAUSE TONIGHT I WAS TOLD WORDS MATTER. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. OKAY, YOUR WORDS MATTER. YOUR WORDS MATTER. , , MS. HAMLEY, HI. HELLO MS. KENNEDY. UM, THIS PAST WEEKEND I DID GO THERE. THEY DID NOT KNOW WHO I WAS. I SAT IN THE PARK, JUST SAT THERE AND WATCHED. I WENT THERE EARLY, UM, BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT THERE WAS, THEY WERE SETTING UP, I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE GARBAGE. WELL, BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT IN THERE, THERE WAS OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE LEAVING BEFORE THEY HAD GOT IN THERE AND THEY LEFT THE GARBAGE CANS FLOWING OVER. UM, I HAVE TO SAY, THEY LINED UP [03:45:01] AND I KIND OF WALKED BY AND THEY WERE LIKE, I SAID, OH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? AND THEY SAID, OH, WE CAN'T START SERVING TILL FOUR O'CLOCK. EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE STANDING THERE, THEY'RE VERY MUCH IN COMPLIANT. UM, THERE IS ONE LADY THAT IS A LITTLE OCD AND SHE WAS PICKING UP THE PARK. THAT WAS STUFF THAT THEY WEREN'T EVEN DOING. THEY WERE PICKING UP FROM OTHER PEOPLE. THEY TOOK THEIR OWN GARBAGE 'CAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID ABOUT US COME COMPLAINING OR ANYTHING ELSE. NOW, I ASKED ABOUT WHY THEY DON'T USE THE PAVILION AND IT'S, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT COLLECTING, THAT'S NOT A 5 0 1 C. IT'S JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND IT'S $50 FOR THEM TO DO THE GROUP FEEDING EVERY WEEK. THESE PEOPLE DO COME OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET TO PAY FOR THIS. I SAID, HOW ABOUT GOING TO THE PAVILION? 'CAUSE I'VE HEARD THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. AND THEY SAID THAT'S $200 A WEEK. IT'S TOO MUCH FOR THEM TO DO THAT. I WILL SAY THERE WAS A WOMAN THERE, I'M GONNA SAY HER NAME IS CARMEN. WE SHOULD HIRE HER FOR BEING PARKS AND RECS. 'CAUSE SHE LOVES TO CLEAN. OKAY. SHE WILL, SHE CLEANS UP THE AREA. THEY DID NOT KNOW WHO I WAS UNTIL AFTER THEY HAD CLEANED UP THE AREA. AND I, I MADE A COMMENT TO THEM. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE RESPECTFUL YOU CAN GET. MAYBE THERE WAS PROBLEMS IN THE PAST, BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE PICTURE BEHIND YOU. YOU COULD ONLY CHANGE THE PICTURE IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, THEY, PEOPLE ATE AND THEY MOVED ON. THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN, WHEN I LEFT WAS AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK. THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE THERE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T CONTROL EVERYBODY, EVERYTHING. BUT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS GROUP WAS JUST THAT. WELL, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY TOOK THEIR OWN GARBAGE WITH PEOPLE AND THEY TOOK IT HOME WITH THEM TO PUT IT IN THEIR OWN GARBAGE CANS. I'M SORRY MA'AM. I'M THE ONE SITTING THERE. I'M GLAD YOU WEREN'T THERE. YOU FOLLOWED THEM, YOU FOLLOWED THEM HOME. YES. OKAY, SURE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO, UM, I, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ME. I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S NICE OF YOU. BUT, UM, WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT THEY PUT IT IN THEIR OWN CAR, TOOK IT DOWN FOR THEMSELVES. AND IF YOU, WHY THEY, THEY'RE NOT DOING SOME OTHER PARKS. IT'S THE COST, BECAUSE I SAID, AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN USING THE PAVILIONS. THEY USE THE OPEN GREEN SPACE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA LOOK AT THAT WAY. AND THEY DO BRING KIDS SO THEY, THEY CAN USE THE PLAYGROUND THEMSELVES. SO I, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF AREA FOR IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME AND USE THE PLAYGROUND, THEY'RE NOT GOING IN THERE AND BOTHERING ANYBODY. SO MS. KENNEDY WAS, THAT'S, I'M SORRY. MS. KENNEDY WAS EXCELLENT. MS. KENNEDY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK, UM, THAT THIS GROUP DOES THE COMMUNITY GOOD IN, UM, THE GROUP FEEDINGS. SO I THINK THAT IT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM, HOWEVER, I SEE THAT THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT PARKS THAT ALLOW THE GROUP FEEDINGS ON THE WEEKENDS. UM, SO IN ORDER TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS OF RIVERVIEW PARK OR AROUND RIVERVIEW PARK, I SHOULD SAY, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK, CAN WE RESTRICT LIKE MAYBE ONE WEEKEND A MONTH? YOU CAN BE AT RIVERVIEW ONE WEEKEND A MONTH. YOU CAN BE THERE. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU CAN'T BE AT THE SAME PARK EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND TO AT LEAST GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK. JUST A SUGGESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE. I, THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY ANYWAY. YEAH, BUT I MEAN, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S THE POINT. OKAY, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. WE'RE NOT GONNA, BUT THEY PAY $50 A WEEK FOR PERMITS. THINK DOES, UH, CITY ATTORNEY HAS SOMETHING. CITY ATTORNEY YEAH. SOMETHING ADD TO IT. SO IF I, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING FEES WAIVED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS FOR OUTDOOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PERMIT. THEY STILL PAY THE FEE FOR THE PAVILION RENTAL. IT'S FOR THE GREEN SPACE, $50 GREEN, GREEN SPACE RENTAL, AND THE LARGE GROUP FEEDING OUTDOOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLY FEE IS WAIVED. CORRECT. AND THERE'S, PER THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, THERE'S, THERE'S PROVISIONS IN CHAPTER 42 THAT PROVIDE FACTORS FOR CONSIDERATION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO WAIVE, TO WAIVE THOSE FEES. AND SO THAT DECISION GETS MADE AS EACH, AS EACH PERMIT APPLICATION COMES IN. BUT BUT JUST CLARIFY, IF THEY WERE TO GO TO ANY ONE OF THESE THREE PARKS, THAT FEE WOULD BE WAIVED AND THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO PAY THE $50 AT ANY ONE OF THE PARKS. CORRECT? THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD REQUEST, THEY WOULD LIKELY REQUEST FOR THAT FEE TO BE WAIVED. AND CITY STAFF MAKES THAT CASE BY CASE DETERMINATION WHETHER OR NOT TO WAIVE THE FEES. RIGHT. BUT IF IT'S WAIVED AT ONE PARK, IT SHOULD BE WAIVED AT THE OTHER. CORRECT. IT HAS, IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH HOW THE APPLICANT SEEKING THE PERMIT IS [03:50:01] MAKING STATEMENTS ABOUT THEM ATTEMPTING TO UU UTILIZE THE PARK FOR FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PAY, WHETHER OR NOT THEIR SPEECH WOULD BE LIMITED BY HAVING TO PAY THE FEE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THERE'S FACTORS FOR CONSIDERATION WITHIN CHAPTER 42 FOR, FOR THESE PROVISIONS. AND IT'S AN ANALYSIS THAT PARK STAFF AND, AND WHEN THEY NEED ASSISTANCE, THAT OUR OFFICE HELPS TO, TO GO THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS ON CAN WE RESTRICT THE, THE PARK FROM WEEKEND TO WEEKEND OR FOR ONE ENTITY OR I, I, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY DO IT FOR ONE ENTITY. UM, ONE THING THAT CAME UP IN JULY AND IN OTHER CONVERSATIONS IS, IS A POTENTIAL ALTERNATING ROT UH, SCHEDULE. OKAY. WE, WE HAVE, IF, IF, IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S INTEREST, WE HAVE SOME, UM, PROPOSALS THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN SHOW YOU. UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A PERFECT PLAN BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DONUT HOLE WHERE WE'RE, WE MAY BE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL DIRECTION BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION AND MY BIGGEST GOAL WILL BE TO, AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO IN THE, IN THE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT ANYONE WHO'S TRYING TO ENGAGE IN THIS EXPRESSIVE CONDUCT HAS. RIGHT. THE, THE CASE LAW AND, AND THE, AND THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE AMPLE ALTERNATIVE OPPORTUNITIES. AND SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A PARTICULAR THRESHOLD AND LEVEL OF OPPORTUNITY THAT PEOPLE HAVE. AND SO IF WE GO ONTO AN ALTERNATING, IF WE'RE GOING ONTO, OKAY, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE EVERY OTHER, EVERY OTHER WEEKEND OR EVERY, EVERY OTHER WEEK, THEN THE ROSTER OF PARKS MAY NEED TO EXPAND TO, AGAIN, PROVIDE AN, AN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY. SO WE HAVE, IF, IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S INTEREST, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UM, THOSE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN SHOW YOU AND WE, AND WE CAN GO OVER THEM. YEAH. CAN I MAKE ANOTHER, I'M SORRY. MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT. YES MA'AM. PLEASE. UM, BEFORE THE, THE BOMBS, THE FOOD NOT BOMBS GROUP, THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP THAT COMES IN THERE THAT DOES A MEETUP. THEY'RE, THEIR, THEIR ABILITY, THEY STARTED, THEY, THEY STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, BUT THEY'RE BACK UP AND THEY'LL BE DOING IT TILL MAY. AND IT IS A CHRISTIAN GROUP THAT COMES IN, IT'S A FELLOWSHIP GROUP THAT THEY MEET UP THERE AND THEY RUN ALONG RIVERSIDE. I THINK THAT'S RIVERSIDE THERE. UM, THEY RUN OR WALK OR WHATEVER THEY DO WITH PEOPLE OF, WITH DISABILITIES. SO THEY MEET UP THERE AND IT JUST IS THEIR ENDING. THEN THE BOMB GROUP COMES IN. SO THERE IS, THERE IS DIFFERENT, AND I SAID, DOES IT BOTHER YOU? AND THEY WENT, NO, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WENT, THEY, WE DIDN'T EVEN, AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A YEAR OR SO. THEY, THEY WENT DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAH. SUMMER, THEY DIDN'T WANNA RUN. CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT IN FLORIDA? SO THERE WERE DIFFERENT PEOPLE USING IT. THEY DO IT AS A MEETUP TO, TO AS A MEETUP TO DO RUNNING OR WORKING OUT THERE. AND AS WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEN IT SEEMED LIKE THE BOMB GROUP CAME IN. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A, AND THERE WAS OTHER PEOPLE USING OTHER PARTS THAT WAS HAPPENED THIS WEEK. BUT THIS, THIS OTHER FELLOWSHIP GROUP, THEY WILL BE MEETING UP THERE EVERY WEEKEND FROM NOW ON TILL MAY. AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FEEDING GROUP. OKAY. GO AHEAD SIR. UH, I HAVE A CLARIFI A CLARIFICATION QUESTION. I DUNNO IF IT'S FOR YOU. AND I THINK I HEARD ADAM SAY SOMETHING, AND SORRY IF I'M A LITTLE SPACEY RIGHT NOW. LIKE I, UH, JUST AFTER THE SHOOTING THE CHARLIE KIRK THING AND STANDING DOWN THERE, I'M LIKE JUST SHOOK RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE FORMER COUNCILWOMAN OF ON MY SET, I'M GOING TO KILL YOU MULTIPLE TIMES, UM, RIGHT THERE WITH WITNESSES AND I'M VERY, VERY BOTHERED BY THAT. UM, BUT, UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, DID YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR THIS OR WAS IT, WERE WE DISCUSSING OPTIONS? I WAS MISSING THAT POINT. AND I FORGET WHICH ONE YOU, YEAH, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL SLIDES HERE AND I THINK EITHER IN THIS POWERPOINT OR IN ANOTHER ONE, UM, ANTICIPATING THAT A COUNCIL MAY WANNA SEE OTHER OPTIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE OPTIONS. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A MO LIKE A MOTION FOR A NEXT THING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW. I WOULD TO SEE OPTIONS. PLEASE GO. THAT'S THE OPTIONS. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER COMMUNITY PARKS AND THE OTHER ACTIVITIES IN THE COMMUNITY PARKS. SO ONE OPTION IN ORDER TO ROTATE WEEKENDS, WE NEEDED TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKS TO THE ROSTER OF WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THE LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS. SO FEV PARK WAS ONE POSSIBLE LOCATION, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE ACREAGE, 14.71, THE PARK HOURS, ALL THE AMENITIES. THERE ARE SMALL PAVILIONS, BUT THERE IS ALSO OTHER GREEN SPACE IN THIS PARK. AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROGRAMMED ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE TENNIS EVERY DAY, SOFTBALL, DIFFERENT SEASONS, KICKBALL ALL YEAR. THAT'S OUR OWN LEAGUE. THE POOLS ARE OPEN. SWIM TEAMS PRACTICE THERE ALL SUMMER. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT TIMES AND DAYS. SO THAT'S ONE OPTION THAT [03:55:01] COULD BE ADDED. THE OTHER PARK IS BROTHERS PARK, 4.63 ACRES. THERE IS A LARGE PAVILION, BASKETBALL COURTS, A PLAYGROUND, AND SMALL PAVILIONS, NO PROGRAMMED ACTIVITIES, JUST RENTALS OCCASIONALLY. AND SHERWOOD PARK IS THE OTHER POTENTIAL PARK. IT'S 6.8 ACRES. POOL, SOFTBALL, FIELD PAVILION AND PLAYGROUND. SO WE HAVE SOFTBALL AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT POOL ACTIVITIES AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PROGRAMMED ACTIVITIES SECTION. SO IF WE WERE TO ALTERNATE WEEKENDS, THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE WHERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY ARE THE SAME SET OF PARKS AND THE WEEKEND ROTATION, INCLUDING THESE NEW ADDED PARKS COULD LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS. WE WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE THE GROUP B FOR WHICH PARK WOULD BE THE THIRD PARK IN THAT SECTION. AND AGAIN, THAT'S BASED ON A RECOMMENDATION TO TRY AND PRESERVE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, THE SAME PLACES AND, AND GEOGRAPHIC OPPORTUNITIES. THIS, UM, THE ROTATION, WEEKEND ROTATION LIST IS ALSO AN ATTEMPT, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT PERFECT TO STILL HAVE A MORE NORTHERN, CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PARK WITHIN THE, FOR, FOR EACH WEEKEND TO BE SORT OF IN THAT TO, TO DISPERSE THE POTENTIAL ACTIVITY GEOGRAPHICALLY AS WELL. MY, UM, MAYOR I, I THINK I, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT DOING SOME KIND OF ALTERNATING WEEKEND, BUT MY ONLY THING I WOULD SAY WITH THE BROTHERS PARK IS, SO LOGISTICALLY IT'S A TOUGH PARK TO GET IN AND OUT OF. WOULD YOU AGREE? UH, MOST OF THEM, UM, HAVE LIMITED PARKING. ALSO, EVEN THE PARKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE LIST, WHEN THERE'S BALL FIELDS BEING USED, THERE'S NO PARKING, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING AT BROTHERS PARK AND NO ACTIVITIES. ACTIVITIES. AND IT'S ALSO A COMMUNITY PARK ACTIVITIES. YEAH. SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD OPTION. YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN IT'S VERY, A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AROUND IT IS SO TIGHT WHERE IT'S LOCATED, BUT THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THAT ONE. YEAH, WE WERE TRYING TO, UM, LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, TRY TO FIND NORTH CENTRAL SOUTH AREA SO WE COULD ALTERNATE AROUND THE CITY. NOT SO THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE NOT ALL IN ONE AREA, MAYOR. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, WOULD BE ALTERNATING WEEKS. THE FIRST SLIDE WAS ALTERNATING WEEKENDS AND THE SAME DURING THE WEEK. THIS OPTION TWO IS ALTERNATING WEEKS. AND YOU CAN SEE THIS SCHEDULE. AND AGAIN, THERE'S ONE LOCATION WHERE IT'S EITHER RIVERVIEW PARK OR TO BE DETERMINED FOR WEEKDAYS AND THEN SATURDAY AND SUNDAY TO BE DETERMINED OR RIVERVIEW PARK AGAIN. AND ANY MONTHS THAT HAVE, UH, FIVE WEEKS, WE WOULD DECIDE WHERE A GOOD OPTION WOULD BE FOR A GROUP REQUESTING MAYOR, CAN WE SEE WHAT THE RESIDENT, UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT WANNA SPEAK WOULD YEAH. WOULD SAY ABOUT THE SWITCHING OR MOVING? IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, CAN I HAVE THEM SPEAK? SO FIRST IS, UH, MARGO PIERCE AND IN FACT JOANNE DANKO THIRD WOULD BE RACHEL SIMMONS. RIGHT OVER HERE, MA'AM. PODIUM MA'AM? YEP. MAKING YOU GET YOUR STEPS IN TONIGHT. . MY NAME IS MARGO PEARSON. I LIVE AT 25 0 6 RIVERVIEW DRIVE, AND I LIVE DOWN, RIGHT DOWN FROM THE PARK. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN BRINGING UP REPEATEDLY IS I BELIEVE RIVERVIEW SHOULD BE RECLASSIFIED FROM A COMMUNITY PARK TO A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK BASED ON THE FACT THAT, UH, AND IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE RIVERVIEW SLIDE, I CAN ACTUALLY SHOW YOU WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. UM, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU FROM WHEN YOU WALK AWAY. YEAH. CAN YOU RIGHT THERE. HE'LL, HE'LL HE'LL PUT UP THERE FOR YOU. OKAY. UM, IF YOU NOTICE THE BLUE, THAT'S JACK ROBINSON'S PROPERTY. MM-HMM . AND IT CUTS THE PARK IN HALF. UH, THE LITTLE BIT OF, OF PARK LAND THAT IS TO THE WEST OF ROBINSON'S PROPERTY IS A DRY RETENTION POND. SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD ON IT UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH ST. JOHN'S AND GET REZONED. SO [04:00:01] NORTH RIVERVIEW PARK IS WHERE THE PLAYGROUND IS, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOT AND WHERE THE PAVILIONS ARE. AND THEN EVERYTHING NORTH OF THAT IS GREEN. BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE THEY SET UP. THEY SET UP UNDER THE TREES. I UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, THEIR, THEIR CUSTOMERS START ARRIVING EARLY AND THEY USE THE PAVILIONS AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO, IT'S A PUBLIC PARK OPEN FROM SEVEN TO SEVEN. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM, THE, THE PAVILIONS ARE ADJACENT TO THE PAR TO THE PLAYGROUND. THEY'RE WITHIN FOUR FEET OF THE PLAYGROUNDS. THEY'RE GOING TO GO UNDER THE TREES, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE PAVILIONS, AND THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PLAYGROUNDS. THEY CROWD OUT THE PLAYGROUNDS ROUNDS. NOW, IF, UM, IF THEY USE THE BIG PAVILION, WHICH WE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T RESTRICT WHERE THEY CAN USE IN THE PARK. NOW, PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IS TELL THEM WHERE THEY CAN SET UP. AND IF YOU NOTICE THAT THE PAVILION IS TO THE SOUTH OF THE BLUE, PLENTY OF, UM, OF ASPHALT. BUT A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE CARS. THEY HAVE BICYCLES. SO, AND IF YOU, IF YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE PARK IS CUT IN HALF AT SEVEN ACRES, EITHER SIDE, IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS. THE CRITERIA FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. IT WAS DESIGNATED A COMMUNITY PARK IN 2014 WHEN, NO, 2012 WHEN THE CITY ACQUIRED THE PARK AND IT WAS BEAR, THERE WAS NOTHING. GO AHEAD MA'AM. OKAY. IT WAS BEAR. IT HAD TO BE DESIGNATED A COMMUNITY OR A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY HAD PLANS FOR THAT. BUT IT'S NOW BEEN, WHAT, 13 YEARS LATER. UH, THEY'VE PUT IN THE P THE LITTLE PAVILIONS THEY PUT IN THE PLAYGROUND, THEY DID THE, THE WALK. THEY PUT IN AN OVERVIEW THAT LOOKS AT BRUSH, THEY DON'T SEE THE RIVER, THEY LOOK AT BRUSH. IT MEETS THE, THE CRITERIA FOR BEING A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. AND IF NOT YOU PERSONALLY, BUT IF YOU FORCE IT TO BE A COMMUNITY PARK, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING IT TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROUP FEEDING. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, AT LEAST RESTRICT THEM TO THE LARGE PAVILION THAT FREES UP THE PLAYGROUND. THE OTHER THING IS THE TRASH. WE PROVIDED PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE TRASH. YEAH. AND WE REPEATEDLY TALKED ABOUT THE TRASH. THEY GOT THE MESSAGE, THEY'RE NOW PICKING UP THEIR TRASH. WE ADDRESSED THAT WHEN WE SPOKE TO YOU AND TOLD YOU, HEY, FOR THE LAST FIVE WEEKS THEY'VE BEEN PICKING UP THEIR TRASH. ALRIGHT. BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. OKAY. FOR THE LAST CAN, CAN WE WRAP UP THE COMMENT? SURE. FOR THE LAST 11 MONTHS, THEY LEFT THEIR TRASH, WHICH IS WHY WE CAME TO YOU. RIGHT. COOL. UM, I THINK RIVERVIEW SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE LIST BECAUSE IT'S A, A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. I LIKE THE IDEA OF ROTATING TO GIVE THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES A BREAK BECAUSE THEY NOT ONLY COME IN, BUT THEY STAY AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT TAKE THE HIT. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. SORRY, JOANNE DANKO. THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU MA'AM. YES. SO, UM, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, BACK AT YOUR COMMENT, WE, WE, WE DON'T, WE SAID THEY HAVE BEEN CLEANING UP FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS. AGAIN, THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR 13 MONTHS AND LIKE, WE CAN'T JUDGE PEOPLE ON THEIR PAST. WE CAN'T JUDGE ONE AFTERNOON FOR 20 MINUTES. WE EITHER, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THEY WERE NICE AND THEY CLEANED UP WHEN YOU SAW THEM. BUT THAT'S ONE LITTLE PIECE OF THIS PICTURE. UM, WE DON'T, WE ARE FINE WITH WE'RE WE'RE ASKING FOR IT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT OFF THE LIST, ROTATE IT. GIVE US A BREAK. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH THE PARKS AND, AND YOU KNOW, AT LEAST DOING THIS. SO NIKKI, YOU DID PROVIDE, UM, A SPREADSHEET WITH THE PARKS AND ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, FOR THE PARKS. YOU'LL SEE A THEME IN THESE PARKS BECAUSE UNDER COMMUNITY PARK IT SAYS NORMALLY HAS A BASEBALL FIELD, A TENNIS COURT, A SWIMMING POOL, A THIS OR THAT. THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MANY [04:05:01] ACTIVITIES IN THOSE PARKS. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A GROUP FEEDING BECAUSE THEY HAVE THOSE THINGS. 'CAUSE THEY ARE A COMMUNITY PARK. NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS DON'T HAVE THOSE THINGS. JUST LIKE RIVERVIEW, JUST LIKE WELLS AND JUST LIKE BROTHERS, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE COMMUNITY PARK LIST. THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT. UM, SO IN, UM, SO ALSO WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT PUTS OUT ALL OF THE PARKS. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THERE, LIPSCOMB NAME WAS CHANGED TO EDDIE LEE TAYLOR. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED ON THE ORDINANCE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE ORDINANCE. UM, UNDER RIVERVIEW PARK, WHOEVER PUT THIS TOGETHER, UM, YOU HAVE UNDER THE SCHEDULED ACTIVITIES, RENTALS, THE FARMER'S MARKET ON SATURDAY. SO THEY DON'T DO FEEDINGS ON SATURDAY. ACTUALLY, THE GROUP THAT FEEDS THERE ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON STOOD HERE AND TOLD YOU THEY FEED ONCE A WEEK ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON AT RIVERVIEW PARK. THEY DON'T FEED DURING THE WEEK. SO ALL, YOU'VE GOT SIX WEEKLY PLACES THEY CAN FEED, GROUP FEED, BUT YOU HAVE TWO THAT CAN FEED ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON. MAYBE THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T NEED IT , THEN I HAVE ALL OF THOSE WEEKDAY ONES THAT ACTUALLY COULD BE USED FOR A WEEKEND. ONE. UM, JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BECAUSE I SAW, I THINK IT WAS SOUTHWEST PARK HAS ACTIVITIES ALL THROUGH THE WEEKEND ON SATURDAY, BUT NOT ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON. UM, SO MAYBE IF THAT PARK IS SOMEWHERE IN ANOTHER AREA, BECAUSE ACTUALLY LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED THAT JEFF NEWS TOLD YOU HOW SUCCESSFUL IT IS MOVING ALL OF THE FEEDINGS AROUND THE CITY. SO MAYBE WE, HE SAID, NEED TO MOVE THE GROUP FEEDINGS WHAT HE SAID. YEP. UM, I GOT A BUNCH OF OTHER CRAP, BUT I'M MORE OUT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. FROM ALL THE EXCITEMENT STUFF. THANKS. KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. ALL RIGHT. ARE THOSE THE TWO SPEAKERS? THERE'S OH AND ONE MORE. I YEP. RACHEL'S, HUH? I WAS THE LAST MINUTE. SORRY. I'LL TRY AND YOU'RE GOOD. NO, GO AHEAD. NO, YOU WAITED. YOU CAN SPEAK. REMEMBER, THESE PEOPLE ARE MAKING A BIG BUCKS. NO, I, UH, I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THAT, UM, I'M UNFORTUNATELY, UH, A LITTLE UNDER INFORMED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PARK. UM, BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED FOR ME WHEN I WAS WORKING ON A FOOD PANTRY AND CLOTHING DRIVE A FEW YEARS AGO. UM, MANY PEOPLE WHO NEED THESE SERVICES ARE LIMITED BY THE FACT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION. THE INCREASE THE, I HEARD THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THESE PERMIT REQUESTS. I BELIEVE THAT'S AN INDICATION OF OUR RISING COST OF LIVING CRISIS. SAME ACP MEANING TO SAY IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO INCREASE. SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. YOU GUYS ARE ADDRESSING IT NOW BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GONNA COME UP MORE OFTEN. UM, AND I, IF IT'S NOT AN OVERSTEP, I WANNA SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE CLOSER TO NEEDING THESE SERVICES THAN THEY MIGHT THINK. UM, I'LL SKIP OVER THAT PART. UM, I SAW A SUGGESTION OF SECTIONING OFF THE PARK, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD PERS COMPROMISE TO ME PERSONALLY. UM, AS FAR AS ADDRESSING THE TRASH, UM, I THINK THERE'S A FEW OPTIONS THERE AS FAR AS ASKING THEM TO MAYBE HIRE, I KNOW THERE'S OFF DUTY, UH, POLICE OFFICERS THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HIRE TO STAND BY AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING DONE APPROPRIATELY. UM, OR MAYBE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS PROVIDING THE RECEIPT FOR WHEN THEY TAKE THE TRASH TO OUR LANDFILLS. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TO THE ONE ON SARNO, THEY'RE REALLY NICE THERE. I'M SURE THEY'D BE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH 'EM. UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ON THE, THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF, NOT ON YOU, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, OPTIONS HERE. AND, UM, YEAH, I, I JUST, I GUESS MY MAIN, MY MAIN THING WAS IF THE ORGANIZATIONS HAD BEEN CONSULTED ABOUT THIS ROTATING PARK AND WHICH ONES WOULD REALLY, SINCE THEY ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, I THINK THEY WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD RESOURCE FOR THE COUNCIL IF, UH, THIS WERE TO GO TO A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING SIMILAR, UM, TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST KIND OF PICKING, UH, PLACES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE HELPFUL. UM, AND IF IT ENDS UP NOT BEING RIVERVIEW, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE, THE PEOPLE WANT THERE. UM, IF THEY ARE NOT WELCOME THERE, I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD FEEL INCENTIVIZED TO FIND A BETTER LOCATION FOR THEM. UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY [04:10:01] WERE BEING, UH, INCLUDED IN THAT CONVERSATION. IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE OF THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER. SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. I, I ASKED ONE THING THAT OUR COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS GO TO RIVERVIEW PARK IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO TO SEE HOW IT'S SET UP BECAUSE I, BEING, BEING THAT I WENT THERE AND I SAW HOW, BECAUSE IT, I FORGOT ABOUT THE A DA, THEY HAVE THESE SIDEWALK AROUND THERE AND THEN THEY HAVE THE GREEN SPACE AFTERWARDS. I THINK IT WOULD BE, BE HOOTING EVERYBODY TO GO THERE, TAKE A RIDE AND LOOK AT HOWEVER YOU PARK IS SET UP. 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT NEXT TO HOMES WHERE THEY'RE DOING THE FEEDING, THEY'RE FEEDING ON THE NORTH END OF IT AND THE HOMES ARE ON THE SOUTH END OF IT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE RIGHT ON TOP OF PEOPLE RIGHT THERE. OKAY. CAN I SEE THE OPTIONS AGAIN? DO THE OPTION I SEE THEM IN HERE, IN THIS PACKET. WERE, WERE THEY IN THE PACKET? THE OPTIONS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEAN AND THEN NO. NO. OKAY. I WANNA MAKE SURE I WASN'T MISSING SOMETHING WHEN I READ THROUGH IT. UM, SO OPTION ONE IS ROTATING FIRST AND THIRD WEEKS. JUST OPTION ONE ONLY ALTERNATES WEEKEND OPPORTUNITIES. IT LEAVES, IT LEAVES IN PLACE THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY PARKS AND OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THEN ON WEEKENDS IT GOES INTO A AB ROTATION. AND THAT'S WHERE AGAIN, RIGHT, WE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST CONCEPTUAL, RIGHT? SO THE, THE SPECIFICS OF IT WE CAN, WE CAN WORK ON FOR ACTUAL ORDINANCE LANGUAGE IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. BUT IT WAS AGAIN, A CON AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW CONCEPTUALLY WHAT A WEEKEND ROTATION MIGHT LOOK LIKE. TO HAVE, AGAIN, THREE, THREE GENERAL GEOGRAPHIC OPPORTUNITIES ON, ON A WEEKEND DAY. UM, AND THEN DISPERSE THAT GEOGRAPHICALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, SO, SO THAT'S WHY THE A GROUP HAS, YOU KNOW, A, A SOUTHERN, YOU KNOW, TWO SOUTHERN CENTRAL ISH AND ONE NORTHERN AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, THE OPPOSITE. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STRUGGLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS THIRD PARK WOULD BE ON ON WEEKENDS, BECAUSE AGAIN RIGHT. WE, WE START RUNNING INTO PARKS WITH A SIGNIFICANTLY MORE, UM, ACTIVITIES ON WEEKENDS. RIGHT? I I, I DON'T NECESSARILY RECOMMEND TRYING TO PARSE OUT MM-HMM . SATURDAYS VERSUS SUNDAYS. RIGHT. THAT, THAT MAY GET TOO GRANULAR. UM, AND, UM, AND AGAIN, RIGHT, YOU KNOW, HAD IDENTIFIED SOME, SOME POTENTIAL ONES RIGHT. BETWEEN FEE, UM, AND AGAIN, RIGHT. ANY, ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE OTHER PARKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON WEEKDAYS, YOU KNOW, ARE ARE ELIGIBLE. BUT, UM, AND I THINK, I THINK JENNY WANTED TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING AS WELL. WELL, AND THEN YOU NOTICE WE SAY TO BE DETERMINED, I MEAN THAT COULD BE SOUTHWEST PARK, IT COULD BE FEE, IT COULD BE, AND I FORGET THE THIRD ONE THAT, OH, WE ALREADY PUT BROTHERS ON THERE. LIKE, BUT THAT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE ON THE, TO BE DETERMINED. UM, THE OTHER THING IS, IS THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT COMMUNITY PARKS. I MEAN, RIVERVIEW PARK IS A COMMUNITY PARK. WE DON'T DO MASTER PLANS FOR INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS THIS RIVERVIEW PARK HAS. AND YES, WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY WORKING ON ADDING THE PLAYGROUNDS, ADDING THE PAVILIONS, ADDING THE WALK PATH. WE SHUT DOWN THE STREET TO MAKE IT A MORE COHESIVE PARK. WE, UM, HAVE HAVE PLANS RIGHT NOW TO DO THE ENTRANCE INTO THE PARK. UM, IT HAD THE NO NOT HAS THE NON-MOTORIZED BOAT RAMP. AND WE DID HAVE PLANS AT ONE POINT TO RETROFIT THAT. HOWEVER, IT, THAT DIDN'T MATCH WHAT THE KITE SURFERS NEEDS. I'VE HEARD ON AND OFF AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN, THERE WAS TALKS OF A SPLASH PAD. THERE WERE ALSO TALKS OF, UM, DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES GOING ON SO THAT IT, IT IS, IT HAS THE ACREAGE AND IT IS CONSIDERED A COMMUNITY PARK BY CITY STANDARDS. AND I KNOW THAT THE, THE RESIDENTS DISAGREE WITH US ON THAT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THAT PARK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TOOK IT OVER FROM THE COUNTY, IT WAS A COUNTY PARK, WHICH IMPLIES IT'S MORE THAN JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT WAS OPTION TWO WAS THAT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE WEEKENDS. YEAH. OPTION TWO THEN ROTATE THE ENTIRE SCHEDULE ON AN AB GROUP FOR MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. SO YOU'D HAVE AN A GROUP FOR MON, YOU KNOW, MONDAY TO FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, AND THEN A B GROUP MONDAY TO FRIDAY, SATURDAY TO SUNDAY. SO, SO AGAIN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD THEN ALTERNATE OPPORTUNITIES ON BOTH WEEKDAYS AND WEEKENDS. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE STRUGGLING TO IDENTIFY A THIRD, A THIRD PARK ON, ON THOSE WEEKEND DAYS. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT EITHER ONE OF THOSE PREFERRED OR NIKKI OR, OR IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER OR JUST PREFERENCE? OR IS IT SIMPLER, LESS MOVING PARTS WITH OPTION ONE? WELL, I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT OPTION [04:15:01] ONE. I THINK IT'S LESS INVASIVE, LESS MOVING PARTS. YEAH. AND SO I WOULD UH, JUST MIRROR. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE ELSE WANTS TO FORWARD ON THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING, LOOKING AT THE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. YEAH. YEAH. WANNA GET CONSENSUS OR DO WE WANT A MOTION THAT'S UP TO THEM? UH, HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO JUST TAKE CONSENSUS DIRECTION. I GOT A QUESTION. GO AHEAD MS. HANLEY. BECAUSE THE FIRST AMENDMENT, I DON'T WANNA GET INVOLVED IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT THING BECAUSE THIS COULD COST US A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IF WE DO OPTION ONE. DOES IT KEEP US OUT OF LAWSUITS FROM I WOULD, I WOULDN'T HAVE PROPOSED IT OTHERWISE. OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE STAYING WAY OUT OF THAT WHOLE I CAN, I CAN, I CAN DEF I CAN DEFEND. SO, SO LONG AS WE CAN IDENTIFY A THIRD PART FOR, FOR A WEEKEND DAY. RIGHT. AND THERE'S THREE, THREE GEOGRAPHIC OPPORTUNITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH WITHIN EACH GIVEN WEEKEND DAY. AND WE, AND WE COME UP WITH, WITH THAT, WITH THAT MISSING PUZZLE PIECES THERE. I CAN, I CAN DEFEND THAT. OKAY. IT HAS THE SAME NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES. I DID NOT WANT TO BE GETTING THE LAWSUIT. LIKE SOUTH FLORIDA GUY. I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T GU I CAN'T GUARANTEE NO LAWSUIT. RIGHT. YEAH. BUT WE CAN DEFEND. BUT I MEAN, BUT, BUT I CAN DEPOSITION, BUT I CAN DEFEND IT. DEFEND, OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO CAN I SEE OPTION ONE BACK AGAIN? YOU CAN BRING BACK OPTION ONE. YEAH. SECOND. NO, NO HOLD, WE'RE NOT AT THAT PART. SO, UH, THE DIFFERENCE, MAYOR, IF I MAY YEAH, NO, PLEASE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND TWO IS THAT OPTION TWO ROTATES THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AS WELL. BUT IF WE GO WITH OPTION ONE, THEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY STAYS CONSTANT AND ONLY THE WEEKENDS ROTATE. YES. AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE ONLY WELLS PARK IS MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. AND SO REALLY WITH THE, WITH THE EXISTING ROSTER, I THINK THE ONLY, THE ONLY PARK THAT'S NOT LISTED AS AN OPTION ON THIS, ON THIS PAGE RIGHT NOW IS FEE FEE IN SOUTHWEST FEE IN SO WELL SOUTHWEST IS ON THERE. SO, SO OUTSIDE OF, OUTSIDE OF FEE NOT BEING ON THE LIST AT ALL, WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT FEE OR ADDING ANOTHER PARK TO BE A MONDAY TO SUNDAY WHO'S NOT FEE . RIGHT. AND, AND AGAIN RIGHT. THAT THAT'S WHERE IN, IN THE MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS THAT WE WERE HAVING, WE, WE STRUGGLED. RIGHT. IT'S, IT'S NOT OUR, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUR INTENT OR WE DON'T LIKE TO, TO BRING YOU SOMETHING AND GO THROW OUR HANDS UP AND SAY WE DON'T KNOW. YOU DECIDE. RIGHT. BUT WE, IT'S FEE OFF THE TABLE. SO WE, WE WERE STRUGGLING, WE WERE STRUGGLING TO IDENT TO IDENTIFY A PREFERRED OPTION FOR THIS ADDITIONAL WEEKEND OP OPPORTUNITY. GO AHEAD SIR. UH, UH, MAYOR IT'S FEE OFF THE TABLE. I KNOW, I KNOW. THAT'S WHAT DAILY BREAD USED TO BE, BUT I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE OF MY RESIDENCE BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE VERY AFTER EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE THAT'S WHERE YOU LIVE? NO, . I MEAN I LIVE IN THAT DISTRICT TOO, BUT NO, I GO TO CHURCH THERE. LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE, BUT THE RESIDENTS THERE, THOSE, THAT'S WHERE DAILY BREAD WAS DOWN. I KNOW, I KNOW. BUT, BUT NOW THAT, THAT'S CLEARED OUT, I MEAN NOW IT'S, AND THERE'S NO ACTIVITY AT THESE. THEY'LL ALREADY HAVE, THEY'LL ALREADY HAVE WELLS. THE WELLS WILL BE RIGHT THERE. AND SO THEY ALREADY GOT ONE. SO NOW YOU'RE MAKING IT BASICALLY TWO WEEKENDS, YOU KNOW, OR NO, IT'D BE ALL, YEAH, IT'D BE TWO, TWO WEEKENDS THAT THEY'RE ALL UP AND DOWN FEE AVENUE BASICALLY. SO THEY'RE GETTING THE BRUNT OF EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF IT BEING SPREAD OUT. OKAY. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FAIR. OKAY. OKAY. GOOD POINT. YEAH. . ALRIGHT, SO MAY GO AHEAD. WHICH ONES OF THESE, WHICH ONES OF THESE PARKS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CORRECT ENGLISH OR NOT, BUT WHICH ONE OF THESE PARKS, UM, TO ADD TO GROUP B HAS THE MOST PARKING OPPORTUNITY? 'CAUSE I KNOW SHERWOOD PARK, I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE ON AIR AND I'LL SUPPORT IT, BUT I KNOW WHEN THOSE, UM, SWIM TEAMS ARE THERE, IT'S HACKED ALONG POST ROAD. SO, BUT TO ADD A THIRD ONE, WHICH ONES OF THESE PARKS HAVE THE BETTER PARKING? NIKKI, OR CAN WE PUT THE SLIDES BACK TO SHOW? SO WE GO BACK ONE MORE 'CAUSE WITH THE SHERWOOD OH SURE. OH SURE. THAT WAS, BUT WE ALREADY TOUCHED, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS WHICH OTHER PARK THAT WE COULD ADD AS A TBD HAS THE MOST PARKING. SO SHERWOOD'S ALREADY ON THE LIST THAT'S ALREADY ON THERE. AND THEN WE GO, BROTHERS HAS THE PARKING OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND IS ON THE LIST. AND THAT'S ALREADY ON THE LIST. OH, THAT'S ALREADY ON THE LIST. YES. SO WE HAVE FEE AVENUE THAT HAS THE PARKING ALONG THE STREET AND THE OTHER PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH. UM, IF WE GO BACK ONE MORE, THAT WAS IT. THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE OTHER THREE THAT WE COULD HAVE. AND IF YOU KEEP GOING BACK 'CAUSE WE'RE, 'CAUSE WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT PARK AND THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE LIST FOR MONDAY TO FRIDAY AND JIMMY MOORE IS ALREADY ON FOR JIMMY MOORES ON THE LIST WEEKEND. SO THEN WELLS, WELLS IS ON THE LIST. MM-HMM. RIVERVIEW, RIVERVIEW IS ALREADY ON THE LIST. SO CARVER CARVER COULD THEORETICALLY BE AN OPTION TO ADD WEEKENDS. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST WEEKDAYS. BUT AGAIN, THAT GOES TO ACTIVITIES. ALL THE ACTIVITIES. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, RIGHT. JIMMY, JIMMY MOORE'S [04:20:01] ON THE LIST AND THERE'S PLENTY OF, THERE'S PLENTY OF WEEKEND ACTIVITIES AT, AT JIMMY MOORE AS WELL. RIGHT. WE THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION THAT'S USED VERY OFTEN. RIGHT. IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A, AGAIN, TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHERE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS AND IMPACTS ARE MITIGATED. NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THERE ARE NONE. SUNDAYS MAY BE UH, UH, WE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT SUNDAY IS NOT, IS NOT THE HARD ONE. SAT SATURDAY IS A HARDER DAY THAN SUNDAY. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO GET, TRYING TO GET SO GRANULAR WITH WHERE THERE SATURDAY OPPORTUNITIES, WHERE THERE SUNDAY OPPORTUNITIES. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. IT'S DIFFICULT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN IF WE GO BACK CRANE, YOU'VE GOT THE, UM, THE PARKING THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE, ON THE, ON THE TOP AND ALSO PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE. MM-HMM . AGAIN WHEN LITTLE LEAGUE IS PLAYING, THAT'S PACKED. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHERE WOULD AVAILABLE PARKING BE WHEN IT'S OFF SEASON? A FEW OF THESE PARKS WOULD HAVE PARKING AVAILABLE, BUT DURING SEASON IT'LL BE HARD TO FIND PARKING. CAN YOU GO BACK TO SOUTH OR, SO WE GOT EDDIE LEE TAYLOR AND THEY HAVE PARKING. UM, YOU CAN SEE THOSE PARKING SPACES THERE. I THINK THERE'S THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS. NOT, NOT LARGE ON ANY INDIVIDUAL, BUT THERE IS PARKING. AND THEN IS SOUTHWEST THE NEXT ONE? I FORGET. YES, SOUTHWEST HAS THE PARKING LOT ON THE TOP PART. TOP LEFT AND A LITTLE BIT ON THE TOP. RIGHT. THAT WAS THE FIRST. THAT WAS, THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. I ARE WE MISSING SOME PARK? WE HAVE A LOT MORE PARKS THAN THIS IS A REASON WHY THE LIKE SARNO OR FRONT STREET OR ANY OF THE ONE O GALLEY, WHY THOSE AREN'T CONSIDERED, WE DID NOT CONSIDER FRONT STREET OR BALLARD WITH ALL OF THE BOAT TRAFFIC. OKAY. AND UM, THE RENTAL, THE EVENTS THAT GO ON AT FRONT STREET AND SO FORTH. SO IT ABOUT SARNO THAT'S ON SARNO. UM, I'M, I'M BLANKING ON JIMMY MOORE. JIMMY MOORE. JIMMY, WHAT WAS THAT? JIMMY MOORE. THE, OKAY, SORRY. YEAH, I'M LIKE WHAT ABOUT WICKHAM? NOT OUR, NOT OURS, NOT OUR JURISDICTION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES. OKAY. SO, SO DON'T, DON'T EVEN NECESSARILY NEED AN ANSWER TONIGHT. RIGHT. BUT, BUT IF, IF THERE'S COUNCIL DIRECTION TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL ORDINANCE WITH, YOU KNOW, A ROTATING SCHEDULE, IT, IT AGAIN IS, IS GONNA BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE TRY AND, UM, IDENTIFY THAT LAST PUZZLE PIECE AND, AND FILL THAT IN FOR, FOR AN ADDITIONAL WEEKEND OPTION TO, TO IDENTIFY AND ADD TO THAT LIST. SO JUST, UM, SO AGAIN, I HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. HAPPY TO TAKE COUNSEL DIRECTION. IT, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, WE'RE LEANING TOWARDS THIS OPTION ONE OF, OF ALTERNATING WEEKENDS AND THAT'S FINE. AND, AND WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON A, A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO THAT END. UM, BUT AGAIN, RIGHT. IIII DON'T RECOMMEND, UH, HAVING ALTERNATING WEEKENDS WHERE THERE'S ONLY TWO OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR, FOR WEEKEND DAYS ON ANY ALTERNATING, ON ANY ALTERNATING WEEKEND. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE ISN'T, THERE ISN'T A PERFECT OPTION, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY ONE THAT CAN, THAT CAN SATISFY UNDERLYING NEEDS AND GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S OUR CONSENT? GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. DO YOU MIND, UH, IS THERE A WAY THAT MA'AM MA'AM, YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN UNLESS YOU WANT TO COME UP REAL QUICK. YEAH. I'M COMING UP REAL QUICK TO THE MIC. LET ME TO FOLLOW ON. YEAH. REAL QUICK. GO AHEAD. YOU GOT, YOU'VE BEEN SO PATIENT. SO THE ISSUE IS THE PLAYGROUND, UH, SINCE THERE'S TWO, TWO SECTIONS OF RIVERVIEW AND THE SOUTH SECTION HAS THE LARGE PAVILION, PLENTY OF SEATING, IT'S UNDERCOVER AND THEY ACTUALLY CAN SEE THE WATER CAN WITHOUT VIOLATING THEIR RIGHTS, HAVE THE SOUTH PARK BE AVAILABLE. GRAFFITI, IT DOESN'T TOUCH THE PLAYGROUND. IT'S SEPARATED BY JACK ROBINSON'S PROPERTY AND THE SOUTH PARK PROVIDES A PAVILION, TOILETS, I'M SORRY, RESTROOMS. PLENTY OF PARKING. THEY DON'T HAVE CARS, BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING AND IT WOULD MEET THEIR NEEDS IF YOU COULD USE THE SOUTH PARK. I DON'T THINK THEY CAN AFFORD IT. THEY GET A VIEW OF THE RIVER IF THEY USE THE SOUTH PARK . OKAY. THEY CAN'T SEE IT FROM THE, OKAY. ALRIGHT. I MEAN, WHAT I DON'T SEE HOW THAT, NO OFFENSE, I'M NOT ONUR, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WOULD HARM ANYBODY. I GO AHEAD MR. I'M SORRY. ISN'T THAT A HEAVY ACTIVITY AREA FOR THE UH, UH, FOR THE, UH, KITE BORDERS? NO, THEY ALL THE, WE'VE LOST ALL THE ACTIVITY. YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE OF THE, I DON'T, YOU LOST OO OR YOU LOST THEM ALL. HUH? BUT, BUT WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF PARKING. PLENTY OF PARKING FOR THE BOAT. I WAS ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT, I WAS ONLY ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT THEM. OKAY. OKAY. I WILL. THANK YOU MA'AM. [04:25:01] SO, SO, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET SOME, UM, A DIRECTION HERE. DO WE HAVE ONE OPTION ONE I CAN COURT OPTION ONE OPTION, OPTION ONE, OPTION ONE. AND EVERYBODY GOOD WITH OPTION ONE? YEAH. YEAH. THAT US AND, AND THEY WILL JUST NEED MORE DIRECTION. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? YEAH, WE'LL BRING, WE'LL BRING BACK A PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND, AND WE CAN FINALIZE WHAT THAT ROSTER LOOKS LIKE, UH, WITH UH, FIRST READING DISCUSSION. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. GOOD JOB. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16, BUT THE WAIVER. THANK, THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS AN, EXCUSE ME, AN ANNUAL ITEM AT THIS POINT WHERE WE REPORT TO YOU VOLUNTEER ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS WHO MAY HAVE A CON CONFLICTING EMPLOYMENT OR CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY. WE DO STILL HAVE THREE. THESE ARE THREE NAMES THAT YOU SAW LAST YEAR, JOHN HIGH, WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, JOANNE DAVIS WITH THE DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE CRA, AND GEORGE ALEXANDER WITH THE OLD O GALLEY, CRA, A FULL DISCLOSURE OF THEIR MEMBER. OF, OF THESE MEMBERS'. POTENTIAL CONFLICTS ARE OUTLINED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE. THEY ARE SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR. UM, AND ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WE'VE REPORTED ON ADDITIONAL TRANSACTIONS THAT MAY HAVE OCCURRED DURING THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR IN WHICH YOU GRANTED THEM THIS WAIVER. I'LL REMIND YOU THAT IF, UH, THE WAIVER IS NOT GRANTED, UM, THEY WOULD NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO RESIGN FROM THE BOARD OR END THAT CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY. AND THE REASON WE BRING THIS TO YOU AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER IS THAT THE REQUESTED ACTIONS ARE FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR AND ANY TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO ITEMS WITHIN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, IF ANY OF THESE BOARD MEMBERS HAD SEPARATE ITEMS COME FORWARD, WE WOULD NEED TO BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, I BELIEVE YOU DO NEED TO READ THE MOTIONS AS THEY ARE WRITTEN. UM, HAPPILY TAKE THAT BURDEN IF YOU WANT ME TO READ 'EM FAST. UM, BUT I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL AGREE THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE NEEDS TO BE WAIVED FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS. UH, MAYOR, REAL QUICK, BEFORE YOU READ ANY ORDINANCES, YOU SAID ADDITIONAL TRANSACTIONS SIMILAR, BUT NOT THE SAME FROM LAST YEAR, UH, OUTLINED IN WHAT DOES THAT, SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YEAH, SO OUTLINED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE ARE THE TRADITIONAL THINGS THAT, UM, SO, SO FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAS A COMPANY THAT DOES EMERGENCY ROAD REPAIR FOR US. SO WE'VE OUTLINED THAT CURRENT RELATIONSHIP, BUT IF THERE WAS SOME OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED THAT DIDN'T FALL WITHIN THAT PURVIEW, WE WOULD COME AND REPORT THAT TO YOU IN ADDITION TO SAY ON TOP OF THAT PREVIOUS GRANTED WAIVER, THEY'RE GOING TO ENGAGE IN THIS TRANSACTION. SO JUST TRYING TO COVER OUR BASE TO SAY WE'RE DISCLOSING EVERY AND ALL POSSIBLE CONFLICT TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN GRANT THAT WAIVER IF NECESSARY. SO THESE BUSINESSES CAN, UH, ADD ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO THE CITY, UH, JUST BY, JUST BY THEM COMING TO US THEN AND, AND SAYING, WELL, SO, SO JOE BAGGA DONUTS HAS 3 BILLION, THREE THINGS HE'S DOING WITH THE, WITH THE CITY. OKAY. SO NOW HE'S GOT FOUR MORE. NOW HE PICKED UP BECAUSE HE'S GOT THE, THE CONTRACT OR SOMETHING. HE IS BETTER PRICE. DO THEY HAVE TO COME? DOES JOE BAG HAVE TO COME TO US FOR THOSE OTHER FOUR ADDITIONAL? YEAH, WE WOULD BEFORE THEY ENGAGE IN 'EM. WELL, THE, THE HOPE WOULD BE AS, AS YOU ARE APPROVING THOSE NEW CONTRACTS, YOU'D BE DOING THIS WAIVER AT, AT THE SAME TIME, WELL, LET'S SAY IT'S NOT A CONTRACT. LET'S JUST SAY IT'S A, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT JENNY CAN SIGN OFF ON. WE, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK. THE, THE, THE STATUTE. THE STATUTE THAT, UH, IS ALLOWING YOU TO DO THESE WAIVERS REQUIRES COUNSEL TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE WAIVER AND THE, AND THE TRANSACTIONS AND THE, AND THE LEVEL OF BUSINESS BEING DONE. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THIS GUIDANCE HAS COME FROM, FROM MY OFFICE OF TRIED TO PROVIDE COUNSEL WITH, HERE'S THE SCOPE OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN, UM, THIS ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, BUSINESS INTERESTS AND THE CITY. THIS IS THE SCOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION ON SO YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO WAIVE ANY ETHICAL CONFLICT INTO THAT. IF THE SCOPE OF, IF THE SCOPE OF THAT BUSINESS AND, AND THOSE INTERESTS EXPANDS, WE WOULD AGAIN, UH, MAKE BEST ATTEMPTS TO BRING THAT BACK AND SAY, THIS, THIS SCOPE IS ATTEMPTING TO EXPAND. ARE YOU STILL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT EXPANDED SCOPE? WELL, I UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND THAT ALL ADAM. UH, WELL I GUESS MY, UH, I WASN'T CLEAR ON MY QUESTION. OKAY. UH, MY QUESTION IS THAT DO THEY NOT, DOES JOE BAG DONUTS NOT PERFORM THE SERVICES UNTIL IT COMES BEFORE THIS COUNCIL? A NEW SERVICE? WE WOULD, WE WOULD MAKE EVERY REASONABLE ATTEMPT TO DO THAT. THAT SAID, IF IT WAS AN EMERGENCY OR OTHER THING, I THINK WE WOULD DO IT ON A, AFTER THE FACT RATIFICATION BASIS. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE NOBODY UP HERE CAN DO ANY BUSINESS WITH THE CITY. RIGHT. OKAY. UNLESS WE GET A WAIVER. YOU CAN'T GET A WAIVER, UNFORTUNATELY. YOU WANT A WAIVER? NO, THEY DON'T PAY. GOOD. NO, THANK YOU ADAM. I APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WELL, DO YOU WANT SUBPOENA? YEP, GO AHEAD. BUT YEAH, GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT, SO THE REQUESTED ACTION FOR ITEM A IS APPROVAL. THE EXEMPTION REQUESTS AND PURSUANT TO SECTION ONE, 12.313, SUBSECTION 12, FLORIDA STATUTES WAIVER, THE PROVISIONS OF SECTIONS 1 12 3, 1 3, SUBSECTION THREE, AND SUBSECTION SEVEN, FLORIDA STATUTES [04:30:01] ON BEHALF OF JOHN HIGH AS A MEMBER OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGARDING HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH JOE BEAR CONTRACTING INC. AND ITS EXISTING COMPETITIVELY BID SCOPE OF WORK FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. SO MOVED. SECOND. SO WE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, UH, ALL OVER TO BERU. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HOW ABOUT I AND MO MOTION PASSES. B, THE REQUESTED ACTION IS APPROVAL OF THE EXEMPTION REQUEST AND PURSUANT TO SECTION ONE, 12.33, SUBSECTION 12, FLORIDA STATUTES WAIVER, THE PROVISIONS OF SECTIONS ONE 12.33, SUBSECTIONS THREE AND SEVEN FLORIDA STATUTES ON BEHALF OF JOANNE DAVIS AS A MEMBER OF THE MELBOURNE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGARDING HER RELATIONSHIP WITH IM SOLUTIONS INC. AND ITS EXISTING SCOPE OF BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL MEETING, LIVE, STREAMING PRODUCTION SERVICES, ASSOCIATED TECHNICAL SUPPORT, AND VARIOUS REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. SO MOVED. AND I'LL SECOND THAT SO WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND ALL. MOVE THE FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE. AYE. NOW MOTION PASSES AND C AND REQUESTED ACTION FOR C IS APPROVAL OF THE EXEMPTION REQUESTS AND PURSUANT TO SECTIONS ONE, 12.33, SUBSECTION 12, FLORIDA STATUTES WAIVER OF THE PROVISIONS OF SECTIONS 1 12, 3, 3 SUBSECTIONS, THREE AND SEVEN FLORIDA STATUTES ON BEHALF OF GEORGE ALEXANDER AS A MEMBER OF THE OLD ALI RIVERFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGARDING HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH ALI HARDWARE AND ITS EXISTING SCOPE OF BUSINESS WITH THE CITY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. SO MOVED. SECOND. AND WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND I'LL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? A I VOTE. AYE. A MOTION PASSES. EXCELLENT. SO WE'RE MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER 17, SELECTION OF EXCEPTIONAL CITIZENS AWARD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE, A QUARTERLY PROGRAM AND IN THE CURRENT QUARTER, TWO NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AS, UH, OUTLINED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, ONE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AND ONE RECEIVED, UM, JUST FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. I'LL JUST REMIND COUNCIL, SINCE WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY NOMINATIONS RECENTLY, THAT THIS PROGRAM IS ENTIRELY YOURS. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SELECT ONE, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SELECT BOTH. IT IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. SO TONIGHT YOU WOULD BE SELECTING THE INDIVIDUAL OR BOTH INDIVIDUALS, AND THEN WE WOULD SCHEDULE A PRESENTATION THEREAFTER. MAYOR, GO AHEAD MA'AM. UM, I BACK, UH, I GUESS TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS. I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AND EVERYBODY AGREED WITH, UM, MR. MORA, UM, MR. VICTOR ZALES MM-HMM . GOING FORWARD. SO I DUNNO WHY WE'RE COMING BACK TO IT A SECOND. COMING BACK. RIGHT. SO THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES SAY THAT THE NOMINATION HAS TO BE WRITTEN, WHICH IS WHAT, AFTER THAT MEETING, UH, THE LINK TO THAT ONLINE FORM WAS PROVIDED AND THEN WE SCHEDULED THIS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. UM, AND SO WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THOSE PROGRAM GUIDELINES THAT WERE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. SO WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SECOND QUARTER OR THIS QUARTER? IT WAS MADE THAT, UH, MS. HANLEY'S REFERENCING, UM, A MEETING IN AUGUST, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN IN THIS CURRENT QUARTER. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE END OF THAT QUARTER AND, AND WHICH IS WHY IT'S ON THIS AGENDA. GOT IT. SO I, I NOMINATE MR. UH, VICTOR ROSALES FOR SAVING SOMEONE AT, UH, AT, UH, THE AVENUE PARK. AND I'LL SECOND THAT ONE. MAY WELL, CAN WE, DENISE, SAY WE COULD DO BOTH. SO YOU CAN, IF YOU, I WOULD SAY, UM, THIS PERSON SEEMED, THE FIRST THING YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD DO IS, UM, OPEN THE FLOOR OF DENOMINATIONS. MS. OKAY. THEN YEAH, THEN LET'S DO THE OPEN THE FLOOR DENOMINATION FIRST NOMINATION. MR. BARLA, MR. VICTOR ROSALES. AND I'LL, OKAY. AND I'LL NOMINATE MS. JACKIE SMALLS AND I KNOW MS. JACKIE SMALLS VERY WELL. AND SHE'S RETIRING ALSO FROM THE, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT. MM-HMM . SO BOTH BEING NOMINATED, YOU COULD MAKE WHATEVER MOTION COUNSEL WANTS TO SELECT ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. YOU COULD SELECT BOTH OF THEM. IT'S YOUR PROGRAM. IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT. SO THEN WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE FOR, UH, A MOTION FIRST, PLEASE. YEAH, I, I WOULD JUST, UM, LIKE TO HEAR, 'CAUSE I, AND I MIGHT MIGHT'VE MISSED IT, A REASON WHY EACH OF THESE, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THEM. LIKE WHY EACH PERSON? THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH. OKAY. UM, MR. ROSALES WAS AT, UH, FEE AVENUE ONE DAY, I GUESS IT WAS BACK IN APRIL, I THINK MARCH. AND, UM, HE WAS WAITING TO START HIS TENNIS MATCH. A GENTLEMAN, I REMEMBER THE STORY NOW YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE. HE, UM, SOMEBODY HAD A HEART ATTACK AND HE'S NEVER TAKEN CPR CLASSES AND HE KEPT THE MAN ALIVE. AND HE'S STILL ALIVE TODAY. MR. MILLER IS STILL ALIVE AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE OF HIM. HUH? THAT'S MR. MILLER. NOT THAT MILLER. OH, NOT THAT MILLER. IT'S A GOOD STORY. SO, I MEAN, HE'S NEVER TAKEN A CLASS, SO HE'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MADE THAT MATCH A LITTLE BIT EXCITING, I THINK THAT NIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, NOMINATE HIM AND THEN MISS JACKIE, UM, SHE'S BEEN A, SHE'S BEEN A PROVIDING MATERNAL AND CHILDHOOD MEDICAL CARE FOR 54 YEARS AND SPEND 39 OF THOSE YEARS AS A VOLUNTEER HELPING AT A CLINIC TO HELP FOLKS IN, UH, THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO SHE'S VERY, JUST MUCH ONE OF THOSE EVERYDAY HEROES THAT, UM, YEAH. [04:35:01] CAN WE GIVE TWO? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. IF YOU'D LIKE TO. YEAH. WHY DO WE HAVE TO EXCLUDE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I MAKE A MOTION TO WHY DON VOTE. VOTE. RIGHT. NO SELECTION. I MAKE THAT MISTAKE. JUST LIKE HAVING A, YOU KNOW, HOLD, HOLD, HOLD ON. WORKSHOP ABOUT A WORKSHOP. SO, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE ISSUE. I HAVE BOTH OF ARE DEFINITELY WORTHY MM-HMM . BOTH OF THEM. SO, UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH DOING TWO. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR THIS ONE. 'CAUSE I WOULD HATE TO SAY YOU'VE BEEN A VOLUNTEER FOR 54 YEARS, BUT MM-HMM . OR, YOU KNOW, YOU SAVED SOMEONE AND, BUT, SO IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, I THINK THIS, THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. ARE WE UNUSUAL? UNUSUAL. THAT'S A GOOD WORD. UNUSUAL. UNUSUAL SITUATION. AND CAN WE, CAN WE, UH, CHANGE THE PROGRAM SO THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE PER QUARTER THEN AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO, OR DO WE WANT, BECAUSE NOW WE SET UP THE CASE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN UNUSUAL SITUATION OBVIOUSLY, BUT NEXT QUARTER WE COULD HAVE FIVE AND QUARTER AFTER THAT WE COULD HAVE 10. THE GUIDELINES ARE ALREADY WRITTEN TO SAY THAT COUNCIL CAN SELECT NONE OF THE NOMINEES, ONE OF THE NOMINEES OR MULTIPLE NOMINEES. SO YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY ALREADY TO SAY, KEEP IT LIKE THAT. YEAH. KEEP THE LATITUDE. YOU HAVE EVERY FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE PRO. UNLESS YOU WANTED TO RESTRICT THAT FLEXIBILITY AND SAY, YOU MAY ONLY SELECT ONE. I WASN'T GOING WITH JUST ONE. YEAH. BUT I WASN'T GONNA GO WITH 10. RIGHT. THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES ARE ENTIRELY COUNSELS AT THIS. AT ONE POINT, UM, YOU, UH, COUNCIL CHANGED THE, UM, ELIGIBILITY TO BE BUSINESS OWNERS WITHIN THE CITY. IT WAS STRICTLY RESIDENTS. AND AT ONE POINT, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO MADE THE NOMINATION. IT MIGHT'VE BEEN MAYOR ALFRE THAT A BUSINESS OWNER WITHIN THE CITY WHO DIDN'T LIVE IN THE CITY SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT. NO, I REMEMBER THAT. YEAH. AND SO OF COURSE YOU ARE ENTIRELY, THE GUIDELINES ARE YOURS. OKAY. I'LL GO WITH YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW, I, OKAY, LET, SO WE'LL MAKE A MOTION AND I'M, AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION THAT BOTH ARE, ARE THE SELECTION FOR EXCEPTIONAL CITIZEN AWARD OF THE THIRD QUARTER. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE A AND M. MOTION PASSES ACT. OUTSTANDING. SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM D, PETITION FOR MONTHS OF COMMUNICATION. WE WILL START OUT WITH YOU, MS. BASSETT. UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT. I'M TAPPED OUT. , I'M SO TIRED MS. HANLEY. I WENT TO THE, UM, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RETREAT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE NEW ANN AND I'M, YOU'RE GONNA ASK ME HER LAST NAME AND IT'S HYPHENED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST NAME. SHE'S A DYNAMITE, A ROTATOR AND ATOR. YEAH, SHE WAS GREAT. UM, SHE MADE IT SO THAT YOU LEARNED, RATHER THAN EVERYBODY BEING IN ONE ROOM, SHE BROKE IT OUT FOR LIKE DINNERS AND ALL THAT TO DO SMALL GROUPS AND YOU HAD TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU DID. SO YOU REALLY MET PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY. UM, IT WAS CONCENTRATED MORE ON, UM, SHE HAD BETTER SPEAK, BETTER PANELS, BETTER SPEAKERS. UM, STILL WORKING ON F-I-T-F-I-T WANTS TO BE HERE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO BANNERS. WE NEED TO BRING THAT BACK. DOING DIFFERENT BANNERS. THEY WANNA BE LIKE BLOOMINGTON, ILLINOIS, WHERE THE COLLEGE AND THE TOWN ARE TOGETHER. REALLY A A HARD, HARD BRINGING IN BUSINESSES LIKE THAT. UM, SO WE NEED TO WORK WITH, I WOULD LIKE TO BE WORKING WITH THEM, FIT TO BRING THEM IN. 'CAUSE THEY SAID THERE'S BEEN SOME PUSHBACK IN DIFFERENT THINGS ON OUR CODES AND ALL THAT. SO I, IF WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO BRING THINGS FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME. AND I AM GOING TO THE LEAGUE OF CITIES FINANCIAL TAXATION AND FINANCIAL COMMITTEE MEETING THIS FRIDAY. UM, I DID SEND OUT, I THINK KEVIN SENT OUT, WE SENT OUT STUFF TO PUT ON YOUR FACEBOOK PAGES. I'LL PROBABLY BE DOING SOME MORE THIS WEEK OR THIS WEEKEND. PLEASE PUT IT OUT INTO YOUR SOCIAL MEDIAS. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING. UM, SO THAT WE DON'T, THE STATE DOESN'T TAKE OVER WITH SALES TAX AND THAT WILL REALLY BE A HARD SITUATION FOR US. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO, KEEP AFLOAT THE WAY WE ARE AND HOW WE'RE DOING OUR TAXES AND ALL THAT. IT WOULD BE A VERY HARD SITUATION TO KEEP THINGS GOING FORWARD. SO THAT'S, I'M ASKING FOR THAT. OKAY. OKAY, MS. KENNEDY, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP LEAGUE OF CITIES. UM, OCTOBER 13TH IS, AND I KNOW WE HAVE ONE MORE COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE THAT, BUT I WANNA JUST BRING IT UP NOW 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ALL VERY BUSY. UM, PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDARS. 'CAUSE OCTOBER 13TH IS HOSTED BY THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. UM, SO I HOPE THAT WE'LL ALL BE THERE. WHERE IS IT THIS YEAR? UM, IT IS AT THE, THE MANOR. THE MANOR? MM-HMM . OKAY. AND THE MANOR AS IN THE PAST. UM, [04:40:01] SO I JUST HOPE WE HAVE, UM, REPRESENTATION OF EVERYBODY ON THE THERE THAT NIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. SMITH. I ALSO WENT TO THE, UH, MELBOURNE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LEADERSHIP RETREAT. IT WAS, IT WAS PHENOMENAL. GREAT, GREAT FORMAT. UH, ALSO WAS, UH, WENT TO A TOUR OF FLORIDA TECH YESTERDAY, VISITED THEIR AVIATION AND WENT TO, UH, VISIT THE VERTEX, UH, WITH SAM. JUST, THEY HAVE A PHENOMENAL PROGRAM, UH, AND THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE. SO I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT MS. UH, MS. NEY IS TALKING ABOUT. UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. LONG MEETING TONIGHT, SO, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, I DIDN'T GO TO THE RETREAT AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. NO. NOPE. PASS BY. OKAY. I'VE GOT ONE THING. THAT'S IT. UM, I WAS CONTACTED BY A BUSINESS OWNER. UM, IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, UH, T MEDICAL RETREAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. IT'S RIGHT. UH, IT'S ON DOWN THE ROAD. IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A SPA. IT'S, UH, NEAR SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT? WELL, THEY'RE DOING AN EVENT, UM, THEY'RE HOSTING AN EVENT IN THEIR PARKING LOT, UH, OCTOBER 18TH. AND, AND WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS THEY CONTACTED OUR STAFF AT THE 30 DAYS AND, AND, AND BY THE TIME EVERYTHING GOT GOING, IT WAS 28 DAYS OR WHATEVER. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS SINCE THEY'VE, THERE'S, THEY'RE WITHIN THE 30 DAYS AND THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED PUTTING STUFF OUT. IF WE COULD, UM, IF, IF, IF WE COULD GIVE THEM A PASS TO HAVE THEIR EVENT GET THE SPECIAL ACTIVITY PERMIT FOR THE EVENT IN HER PARKING LOT. AND WHO WAS THIS AGAIN? WHAT'S THAT? MA'AM? WHO WAS THIS AGAIN? HOW MEDICAL, UH, MEDICAL DIRECTORS. BRIAN DOELL. IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD IF GO DOWN US ONE RIGHT BY, UM, THEY GOT LIKE A LITTLE ABSTRACT YEAH. UH, LETTER IN FRONT OF THEIR BUILDING. YEAH. AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE LIKE THREE BRIDGES. YEAH. YOU GET FACIALS, ALL THAT STUFF THERE. MM-HMM . AND IT'S A REALLY NICE PLACE. THEY INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THERE. MM-HMM . VERY NICE. UM, IT USED TO BE A LONG TIME AGO, LIKE A, UM, RESTAURANT IN THAT ONE. IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A DENNY'S YEARS AGO. YOU REMEMBER THE DENNY'S YEARS AGO. BUT IT'S RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF THAT. AND YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF IS KIND OF, THEIR HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE THE RULE IS A 30 DAYS AND THEY'RE AT LIKE 28. UM, AND AGAIN, BY THE TIME THEY SUBMIT IT, IT'S ON THE 30TH DAY, FIRST TIME THEY'VE DONE THIS. SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCIL ALLOW THAT OUR GO AHEAD MA'AM. UM, I'M JUST GONNA ASK THE SAME EXACT QUESTION THAT I ASKED EARLIER. IS IT FEASIBLE, KEVIN, FOR THAT PERMIT TO GET DONE IN THE 28 DAYS? YEP. SHORT ANSWER IS YES. THEN I'LL SUPPORT IT. AND, AND I, AND I, AGAIN, THEY, THEY CALLED TODAY AND THEY SAID, LISTEN, YOUR, AND THEY EVEN SAID, I TALKED TO THE DOCTOR, HE'S LIKE, YOUR STAFF'S GREAT. HE GOES, WE'RE LIKE WITHIN THREE DAYS IN. AND HE'S LIKE, I CAN GET IT AND IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. I'LL JUST AT LEAST KNOW. SO THEY SPOKE NOTHING BUT HIGHLY, BUT OUR STAFF, BUT IT, IT'S ON THEM ON THE, ON THE COUPLE DAYS. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT ALLOW, I LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY CAN, AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD EXPEDITE EVERYTHING AND WHATEVER OUR STAFF NEEDS THIS WEEK, THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THEY NEED, INCLUDING LUNCH. SO, SO, UH, IF, IF THAT'S OKAY AND WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OR DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT? I'M GOOD. UH, CITY ATTORNEY CONSENSUS IS FINE. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE IT. WELL THANK, THANK YOU COUNSEL. SO THEN WE ARE DONE. WE WILL, UH, ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 10 49. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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