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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 26TH, 2025 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, LET ME REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM.
LOCATE LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AND SUBMIT IT TO THE SERGEANT IN ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, USE THE MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN AUDI AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR YOUR NAME AND CITY.
SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE BODY.
DO NOT ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY.
BE MINDFUL THE TIMER AND ELECTOR, AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT BEFORE YOUR SPEAKING TIME ENDS.
THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS. AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE OR PERSON WITH LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME, AS WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE A RECORD BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL IMP PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS OR REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS OR DISRESPECTFUL OR ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION.
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN THECA INVOCATION, PLEASE STAND.
I SERVE AS ONE OF THE PASTORS AT FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH JUST DOWN THE STREET.
MARK'S UNITED METHODIST CHURCH IN INDIA, ATLANTIC.
SO I BRING GREETINGS FROM BOTH CONGREGATIONS.
WOULD YOU PRAY WITH ME TONIGHT? GOD OF COMPASSION AND COMMUNITY.
WE GATHER TONIGHT IN GRATITUDE FOR THE GIFT OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND THE TRUST PLACED IN THESE COUNCIL SEATS.
WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AS WE ADDRESS THE HEART OF THIS CITY'S WELLBEING.
GRANT US THE WISDOM TO CONFRONT THE CHALLENGE OF OUR NEIGHBORS ENDURING HOMELESSNESS.
AND WE ESPECIALLY THINK OF DAILY BREAD AS THAT CENTER TRANSITIONS AND TO WORK WITH COURAGE TOWARDS LASTING SOLUTIONS LIKE PROVIDENCE PLACE AND OTHERS.
SO THAT SHELTER AND DIGNITY MAY BE WITHIN REACH FOR ALL WHO CALL MELBOURNE HOME.
BLESS OUR EFFORTS TO HEAL THE NATURAL BEAUTY AND TRUSTED TO US THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.
OUR MARINAS, OUR BEACHES, AND THE WILDLIFE INSPIRE US TO STEWARD WITH CARE.
PROTECTING ALL THESE THINGS FROM EROSION, POLLUTION, AND PRESERVING HABITATS THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS, FUTURE PEOPLE WHO CALL MELBOURNE HOME MAY KNOW THE WONDER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.
GUIDE OUR HANDS IN BALANCING THE VIBRANCY OF DOWNTOWN AND OUR GROWING AIRPORT AND ALL THE CONCERNS AROUND ALL OF IT.
MAY WE FIND GOOD SOLUTIONS THAT SUPPORT BUSINESSES EASE CONGESTION AND SUPPORT GROWTH AND ACCESSIBILITY.
GRANT US CLARITY OF THOUGHT, OH LORD, UNITY AND PURPOSE AND GOODWILL IN OUR WORDS TONIGHT.
MAY EVERY DECISION REFLECT THE COMMON GOOD IN THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF MELBOURNE, GROUNDED IN INTEGRITY, EMPATHY, AND FORWARD-LOOKING.
MAY EACH PERSON HERE KNOW THAT THEY ARE A CHILD OF GOD AND A PERSON OF WORTH.
WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS GATHERING.
BLESS EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF, AND ALL WHO PARTICIPATE THIS EVENING AS WE STRIVE TO BUILD A STRONGER COMMUNITY, RESILIENT AS WE CALL MELBOURNE HOME.
WE PRAY ALL THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF GOD.
PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE.
BELIEVE I PLEDGE ANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, ROLL CALL MR. MCEWEN, COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO.
I WANNA MOVE ON TO PROAM PROCLAMATION PRESENTATIONS.
JEANETTE, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
FIND OFF THE REIGN TO COME AND VISIT.
WELL, I KNOW
AND ACTUALLY YOU'RE THE CEO OF THE SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION.
ACTUALLY, ADAM DOES A LOT OF THINGS.
HE MAY HAVE A TIME, PART-TIME FOR AN ATTORNEY, I THINK.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I MAY BE WRONG.
BUT ANYWAY, LEMME GET BACK TO THIS.
SO, PROCLAMATION, CITY OF MELBOURNE, WHEREAS MANY
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HEALTH OFFICIALS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE NATION, STATE AND LOCAL LOCALLY, UH, RECOGNIZED THAT MENTAL ILLNESSES IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE OF CONCERN, PARTICULARLY AMONG OUR YOUTH.AND WHEREAS WE REALIZE THAT OUR, UH, TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES REQUIRES MORE OPEN AND HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.
AND WHEREAS ONE MAJOR HURDLE IS REMOVING THE STIGMA ATTACHED TO MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND DISCUSSION.
AND WHEREAS INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND MANY OTHERS RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF EMOTIONAL HEALTH.
AND WHEREAS THROUGH AWARENESS OF THIS MONTH, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE SEEKS TO ENCOURAGE ALL TO RECOGNIZE THAT SUICIDE IS PREVENTABLE PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM AND SUICIDE PREVENTION MUST BE A PRIORITY.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE SUPPORTS THE EFFORTS OF THE SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION WHO REMAIN DEDICATED TO SAVING LIVES AND BRINGING AWARENESS AND HOPE TO THOSE AFFECTED BY SUICIDE.
NOW, THEREFORE BE I BE RESOLVED THAT I PAUL FRI MAYOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER, 2025 AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH.
AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE WILL ENCOURAGE THOSE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES TO SEEK THE HEALTH OF A FAMILY MEMBER, FRIEND, COLLEAGUE, AND HER LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM.
AND THE TIME OF NEED WITNESSED MY HAND, THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IS 26 DAYS.
SO, UH, REAL QUICK I'LL SAY I'VE REALLY NEVER TOLD ANYBODY THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPACTED MY FAMILY AS MY GRANDFATHER COMMITTED SUICIDE.
SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU KIND OF LOOK BACK AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WOULD'VE NEVER SEEN THAT INTO IN HIM.
'CAUSE HE WAS A STRONG MAN, VERY STRONG MAN.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, THIS, AND I WOULD SAY A DISEASE CAN, CAN AFFLICT ON ANYONE.
SO I WANNA THANK YOU WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
IF YOU'LL SAY A FEW WORDS, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, AS MAYOR SAID, I'M JOHN LING.
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION.
AND WITH ME IS ADAM, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
WE WANNA WANNA THANK YOU FOR PASSING THIS RESOLUTION AND THE ONGOING INTEREST YOU HAVE SHOWN IN MENTAL HEALTH AND SUICIDE PREVENTION.
WE STARTED THIS INITIATIVE, UH, FOUR YEARS AGO.
MELBOURNE WAS AN EARLY ADOPTER TO THIS, AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR CARE FOR THIS ISSUE.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT AND IT DEMONSTRATES THE COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN IN THIS AREA.
WE WISH THERE WERE EASY ANSWERS TO END THE TRAGEDY OF SUICIDE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE KNOW THERE ARE NOT QUICK FIXES.
THE LATEST STATS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH ARE FROM 2023, AND THAT'S WHEN BREVARD SAW NEARLY 150 PEOPLE WHO DIED BY SUICIDE.
THAT'S A RATE OF 21 PER 100,000.
THE RATE IN FLORIDA WAS JUST OVER 14 PER 100,000 PEOPLE, THIS SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION AND MANY OTHERS IN BREVARD ARE COMMITTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
YOUR SUPPORT HELPS US TOWARDS THIS INITIATIVE AND FINDING BETTER ALTERNATIVES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN MOST NEED.
YOU WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS, ADAM? NO, I'M GOOD.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A VOLUNTEER MILESTONE, UM, FOR, FOR YOU FOR FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE.
UM, MR. HART STARTED HIS VOLUNTEER SERVICE, UH, IN JULY OF 2020.
SINCE THAT HE HAS PROVED TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL ASSET TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE HELPING TO KEEP THE CITY OF MELBOURNE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
UH, REAL QUICK FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT VOLUNTEERS DO.
UM, WE COULDN'T OPERATE WITHOUT OUR VOLUNTEERS, OUR VOLUNTEER BOARDS, EVERYBODY.
UH, SO REALLY, UM, TO GIVE TO, TO, TO GIVE THIS KIND OF, AND I, AND I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S A PEN, BUT TO GIVE A PEN LIKE THAT TO SOMEONE WHO VOLUNTEERS AND SERVES OUR COMMUNITY IS ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS TO THIS JOB.
SO I WANNA THANK YOU REAL QUICK.
THANK YOU FOR, FOR WHAT YOU DO, SIR.
AND YOU WANNA SAY A FEW WORD? GO AHEAD.
I'M JUST GLAD I GET TO LIVE IN MELBOURNE.
RUN BY SOME GREAT PEOPLE AND BE ABLE TO HELP WHERE I CAN.
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ALL RIGHT.DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MAY I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM AUGUST 2ND, UH, 12TH, 2025.
AND SECOND, UH, MRS. BASSETT FOR A SECOND.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, MS. LAMB? YES.
UM, THE NOVEMBER 11TH COUNCIL MEETING FALLS ON A CITY OBSERVED HOLIDAY.
SO STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION ON WHETHER TO HOLD THE MEETING ON THE NORMALLY SCHEDULED DAY, WHICH IS VETERANS DAY, OR TO MOVE THE MEETING TO ANOTHER DATE.
FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE WANTED TO LEAVE THAT UP TO COUNCIL.
WE HAVE CHECKED AVAILABILITY OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AND WE COULD MOVE THE MEETING TO EITHER MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH OR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH.
I JUST RECENTLY LEARNED THAT NOVEMBER 10TH MAY BE A SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING.
SO WE MAY WANNA STAY AWAY FROM THAT.
THERE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE ALSO.
SO, AND IF WE DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT NOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER IN THE MEETING.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO COUNSEL SEE WHAT THE AGENDA WOULD KIND OF LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE IF, IF IT'S NOT A BIG AGENDA, WE COULD JUST SKIP THAT AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE FOLLOWING.
'CAUSE IT'D ONLY BE A WEEK AND A HALF AWAY.
WOULD WE KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA DO? I JUST DON'T WANNA DO ONE OF THOSE LIKE BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND AFTER CHRISTMAS.
THAT'S WHY WHAT WE COULD DO IS LOOK AT IT MAY THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF OR SOMETHING AND KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE.
OH MY GOD, THIS IS, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
I DON'T WANT A FOUR HOUR MEETING.
I DON'T THINK MY BACK CAN HANDLE A FOUR HOUR MEETING.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE COULD WAIT UNTIL MAYBE OCT WAIT A MONTH OR WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION TO MOVE THE ACTUAL DATE OF THE MEETING.
AND MIGHT BY THEN, WE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT WOULD BE ON THAT AGENDA.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING I HAD IS GOOD NEWS.
I DON'T USUALLY SHARE GOOD NEWS LIKE THIS, BUT, UM, GOOD NEWS.
THE JOE DAVIS COMMUNITY CENTER GYM WILL REOPEN FOR PICKLEBALL AND BASKETBALL BEGINNING THIS FRIDAY, AUGUST 29TH.
AND THEN WE WILL BRING BACK SENIORS AT LUNCH AND BONE BUILDERS ON THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 8TH.
AND A LOT OF HARD WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS BOTH CITY STAFF WITH OUR HR, UM, FACILITIES, ATTORNEYS BUILDING AND PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF IN ADDITION TO OUR, OUR FMIT AND, UM, THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND GETTING THAT WORK DONE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE WERE GONNA OPEN THAT AT LEAST.
OBVIOUSLY THE REPAIRS AREN'T DONE, BUT WE ARE AT LEAST TRYING TO, TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS BEST WE CAN WHILE THE BUILDING IS BEING FIXED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LAMB? NO.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY REAL QUICK IS I WANT TO CONGRATULATE, UH, UH, SHANE LEACH FOR OUR ACTING FIRE CHIEF.
UM, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATE.
HE IS A FELLOW COMMODORE, AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, UH, MS. LAMB TAKING ACCOUNT THAT, UH, UH, HE AND I ACTUALLY PLAYED FOOTBALL AT O GALLEY HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER.
AND HE, HE WAS A STARTING QUARTERBACK AND HE NEVER THREW ME THE BALL.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT.
I KNOW THAT, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT.
UM, IF THAT'S IT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
WE'RE GONNA START OUT WITH JOE ANN DANKO, FOLLOWED BY MARGO PIERCE.
JOANNE DANKO, JERNIGAN AVENUE, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
UM, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE WE NOTICED THAT THERE WAS NO AGENDA ITEM TO FOLLOW UP ON THE LARGE GROUP FEEDING ISSUE AT RIVERVIEW PARK.
WE DID NOT ATTEND, UH, THE PRIOR MEETING AS THE TOPIC WAS ALSO ABSENT FROM THE AGENDA TWO WEEKS AGO.
HOWEVER, WE DID REVIEW THE VIDEO FROM THAT MEETING AND SAW AND HEARD THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, THE FOOD NOT BOMBS GROUP TO CLARIFY TO THEM AND TO COUNCIL.
OUR CONCERN ISN'T ABOUT THE GROUP.
IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT THE GROUP.
UM, AND WE CERTAINLY, UH, DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THEM HAVE TO COME AND DEFEND THEMSELVES.
WE NEVER MENTIONED THE GROUP'S NAME EVER IN ANYTHING THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT.
UH, ACTUALLY IT WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT MENTIONED THE NAME OF THE GROUP.
UM, OUR CONCERN IS THE FOCUS IS ON
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THE LARGE GROUP FEEDING ORDINANCE.AND WE'VE MENTIONED IT MANY TIMES, AND IT WAS WRITTEN MANY TIMES.
IT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT'S THE ISSUE.
IT'S NOT THE GROUP, IT'S NOT ANY GROUP THAT WANTS TO FEED THE HOMELESS.
THE ORDINANCE IS OVERDUE FOR REVIEW.
WHAT WAS GOOD IN 2014 IS NOT SUITABLE FOR 2025.
THINGS THAT THE PARK CHANGED, WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT SINCE APRIL.
WE'RE CONCERNED, UM, ABOUT PARKS AND RECREATION, NOT ADHERING TO THE ORDINANCE OR THEIR OWN PERMIT POLICIES WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PETITION.
THE ANSWERS THAT WE GET FROM PARKS IS A BLANKET.
OH, YOU KNOW, THE PARK IS OPEN SEVEN TO SEVEN.
IT CAN, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY COULD BE THERE AT ANY TIME.
WELL THEN WHAT'S THE POINT OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE LARGE GROUP FEEDING? IF ANYBODY COULD BE THERE AT ANY TIME.
AND WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE PERMIT? THE ORDINANCE SAYS FOUR TO FIVE.
THE PERMIT SAYS FOUR TO FIVE, NOT 12 TO SEVEN OR AFTER.
NOT THAT YOU CAN LEAVE STUFF ALL OVER THE PARK WHEN YOU WANT TO.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, CONSIDER IF, IF I RENTED THE PAVILION AT THE PARK AND I HAD A PARTY AND ALL MY LEFTOVERS, I DECIDED TO LEAVE STRATEGICALLY THROUGHOUT THE PARK.
AND ALL OF MY ATTENDEES, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT MAYBE SOME OF THEM DECIDED TO HANG OUT AND STAY FOR THE NIGHT AND SLEEP AT THE PARK AND CAMP OUT BY THE RIVER AND INVADE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ABUTTING THE PARK.
AND I LEFT TRASH ALL OVER THE PLACE.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME? RIGHT.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I DID IT SUNDAY AFTER SUNDAY? THAT'S THE POINT.
UM, AND NOBODY'S ENFORCING IT.
NOBODY, THE PARKS ISN'T ENFORCING IT.
IT'S A TERRIBLE USE OF OUR RESOURCES.
SO WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS, UH, HOW MUCH ACTUALLY YOUR TIME'S UP.
YOU NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME? YEAH.
UM, THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE HOMELESS IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
WHILE PROVIDENCE PLACE IS BEING BUILT CURRENTLY, THERE'S NO DESIGNATED PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO WITHOUT RISKING TRESPASS OR BEING RELOCATED FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ANOTHER.
THE SITUATION CREATES STRESS ON THE HOMELESS POPULATION, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY'RE MOVED INTO FROM WHEREVER ELSE.
AND OUR POLICE RESOURCES, IT'S TROUBLING THAT WE HAVE A SHELTER FOR CATS AND DOGS, BUT NOT PEOPLE.
IT, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING HOMELESS IN OUR PARK.
THE ISSUE IS WE HAVE HOMELESS IN OUR CITY THAT NEED A PLACE TO GO.
AND IN TWO YEARS, UNTIL PROVIDENCE PLACE IS BEING BUILT, WHICH A HUNDRED'S BED ISN'T GONNA A HUNDRED BEDS ISN'T GONNA COVER THE AMOUNT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.
I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK OR SAY SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THEY NEED A, A, A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN CENTRALIZE THE RESOURCES, THE, THE FOOD TRUCKS, THE SHOWER BUSES.
CAN YOU WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS? YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY.
I MEAN, COULD YOU WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT? YEP.
BUT WE'VE BEEN REALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE JUNE AND HAD NO PROGRESS WHATSOEVER, OR AN UPDATE OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN A POTENTIAL, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THIS? OKAY.
CAN WE GET SOME SORT OF UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF WHERE ARE WE WITH IT? OKAY.
I I, I'D BE GLAD TO, TO ADDRESS THIS REAL QUICK, MA'AM.
IF YOU WOULD SAY, YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS REAL QUICK.
COUPLE THINGS, COUPLE THINGS I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON.
COUPLE THINGS I AGREE WITH YOU ON.
NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A PLAN OR IS A PLAN FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE HOMELESS IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
UM, I'VE ASKED FOR IT SEVERAL TIMES.
I MEAN, WITH, WE, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS FOR YEARS AND PART OF, UM, DAILY BREAD CLOSING AND GOING INTO DOING THEIR STUFF IN PROVIDENCE PLACE.
UM, THE PLAN, NOW THEY ARE ACTUALLY MOBILE, WHICH BRINGS UP MY NEXT POINT.
UH, JEFF NEWS CAME UP AND HE SAID HOW, UM, SUCCESSFUL HE FELT THAT GOING PLACE TO PLACE WAS REALLY REACHING PEOPLE THAT NEEDED IT AS OPPOSED TO BEING IN ONE LOCATION AT THE DAILY BREAD.
NOW THAT BRINGS MY POINT TO THE PARK AND I ASKED ONE OF THE PEOPLE I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING A LITTLE BIT, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I'D ASKED THEM, THEY'RE COMING FROM WEST MELBOURNE.
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WEEKEND? MM-HMMWHY AREN'T THEY GOING TO ALL PARKS? RIGHT.
IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL FOR, UH, DAILY BREAD NOW TO BE MOBILE, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE MORE SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM IF THEY PICKED DIFFERENT PARKS AND WENT AROUND, UH, EVEN IN WEST MELBOURNE, PALM BAY.
SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S, I I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, A CHANGE IN, IN THAT ORDINANCE IS NEEDED AND JUSTIFIED.
AND, UH, WHAT'S THE STATUS ON IT? UM, I'M JUST GONNA BE FRANK WITH YOU DEALING WITH MY MEDICAL BACK ISSUES.
SO, UM, I'M PLANNING ON TRYING TO PUSH THIS A LITTLE FASTER.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY BEING KIND OF PATIENT, BUT I, I DO AGREE.
WHY RIVERVIEW PARK AND WHY EVERY WEEK WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S MORE SUCCESSFUL IF, IF YOU'RE MOVING AROUND IN MY OPINION AND OPINION FROM THE EXPERTS, RIGHT? NO, WE, WE AGREE.
I WE DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE IN THE SAME PLACE EVERY WEEK.
BUT THAT TASK WAS GIVEN ON JULY 22ND, I BELIEVE, FROM DAVID TO THE ATTORNEY.
LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE PROCESS FOR THAT ORDINANCE CHANGE MIGHT BE.
UH, LAST SPEAKER, MARGO PIERCE.
MY NAME IS MARGO PIERCE AND I LIVE AT 25 0 6 RIVERVIEW DRIVE IN MELBOURNE.
AND I WANNA PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT JOANNE JUST SAID.
UH, I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL YOU POSSIBLY WHY RIVERVIEW IS ONE OF THE PLACES TO GO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, OUT OF THE SEVEN LOCATIONS THEY'VE IDENTIFIED, THERE'S ONLY TWO PARKS MM-HMM
THAT HAVE THE HOURS FOUR TO FIVE.
NOW, IF YOUR TARGET POPULATION, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT GET OFF WORK THERE ARE WORKING POOR, YOU WANNA FEED SOMEBODY IN THE EVENING, THERE'S TWO PLACES TO GO.
ONE IS UP IN SARNO, UH, JIMMY MOORE PARK, I THINK IS THE NAME.
SO MAYBE THE TIMING, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AND EXPAND THE TIMING, THE HOURS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE AFTERNOON, ALL THE OTHER PARKS, THE HOURS END, I BELIEVE AT 2:00 PM SO YOU HAVE THAT TIMEFRAME BETWEEN THE FEEDING, UH, SAY TWO O'CLOCK, AND THEN YOU HAVE SEVEN O'CLOCK.
SO THAT MIGHT A REASON MAYBE YOUR, YOUR HOURS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AS WELL AS YOUR LOCATIONS.
UM, WE SUBMITTED PICTURES NOT ONLY TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT WE PUT IT IN THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
WE'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT TRASH.
AND WE TOOK PICTURES OF IT AND WE TRIED TO WORK THROUGH THE SYSTEM, BUT THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THAT THEY'RE, THE GROUP IS DOTTING EVERY I CROSSING EVERY T THEY'RE A OBEY ALL THE RULES.
AND IT'S ONLY BEEN THE LAST FIVE SUNDAYS THAT THEY'VE PICKED UP THEIR TRASH.
WE GO THERE IN THE EVENING TO WALK AND WE, WE LOOK THE LAST FIVE SUNDAYS, THEY'VE PICKED UP THEIR TRASH.
NOW I BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE WE, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, NOT BECAUSE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN FOLLOWING UP ON THEM TO DO THEIR JOB.
THEY GET A PERMIT, IT'S FREE, AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN PICK UP THEIR TRASH.
SO FIVE WEEKENDS IN A ROW, THEY'VE DONE IT, GIVE 'EM CREDIT.
THE, UM, THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE ACTUALLY BROKE DOWN THE SIZE OF RIVERVIEW PARK, TOOK THE STATS OFF THE BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISERS WEBSITE.
RIVERVIEW PARK IS DIVIDED ALMOST IN HALF DIVIDED BY PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY A PRIVATE CITIZEN.
JACK ROBINSON'S FAMILY HAS OWNED THAT LAND SINCE 1945.
THEY DON'T WANT TO SELL, THEY DON'T WANT EMINENT DOMAIN TO COME IN AND TAKE THEIR HOME BECAUSE SOMEBODY THINKS, CAN I FINISH? GO AHEAD.
BECAUSE SOMEBODY THINKS THEY CAN MAKE A BIGGER PARK.
IF YOU DIVIDE RIVERVIEW PARK IN HALF AND YOU MEASURE IT EACH SIDE, THE NORTH PART, THE SOUTH PART ARE A LITTLE OVER SEVEN ACRES.
EACH ONE HAS A BOAT LAUNCH FOR, UM, NON-MOTORIZED BOATS.
THE OTHER SIDE HAS A CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND PERMANENTLY INSTALLED RIGHT.
WITH PAVILIONS PUT AROUND THE PLAYGROUND TO ALLOW THE PARENTS
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PEOPLE TO ENJOY IT.IT'S PHYSICALLY DIVIDED IN HALF.
AND, AND I KNOW WE'VE INVITED EVERYBODY TO COME AND LOOK AT THAT PARK.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU SEE IT, THEN YOU CAN GO, OH MY GOD.
HOW DO WE PUT A SWIMMING POOL ON SEVEN ACRES? HOW DO WE PUT A BALL FIELD ON SEVEN ACRES? WE CAN'T RIVERVIEW.
RIVERVIEW PARK IS BORDERED BY, UH, ROADS NOT.
NOT THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, US ONE, BUT IT'S DIVIDED BY PRIVATE, NOT PRIVATE, BUT, BUT ROADS.
MA'AM, COULD YOU WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT PLEASE? OKAY.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF YOU GUYS WOULD GO OUT AND WALK THE WALK, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY, JUST LIKE YOU DO BEFORE YOU GO OUT ON A MISSION, YOU WALK THE WALK, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THIS? WHAT CAN'T WE DO WITH THIS? OKAY.
I MEAN, IT'S, WE'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW ASKING YOU WALK THE WALK.
THAT'S THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE'RE GONNA END UP MOVING IN UNFINISHED BUSINESS NOW.
COUNSEL, I'M GONNA, UH, THERE'S NO OBJECTION.
I'M GONNA MOVE ITEM 13 UP THE CITY OF AIRPORT AUTHORITY PROPERTY ACQUISITION BEHIND EIGHT.
SO WE'RE GONNA START OUT NOW TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
IT'S GONNA BE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 38.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
EXPANDING THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AIRPORT AUTHORITY MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING CHAPTER 12 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED AVIATION AMENDING SECTION 12 DASH 1 42.
AUTHORITY AND DUTIES CREATING SECTION 12 DASH 1 48, ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY CREATING SECTION 12 DASH 1 49.
DISPOSITION OF REAL PROPERTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CONLEY? I, I WILL, I WILL STAND ON, UM, MY PRESENTATION FROM FIRST READING AND, AND JUST NOTE THAT, UM, WE DID MAKE THE CHANGE THAT I HAD REFERENCED FROM FIRST READING ON PAGE THREE TO SECTION 12 1 48 A ONE.
SO THAT'S THE REVISED LANGUAGE.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CONLEY? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SIGNUP SHEETS? I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MAYOR? GO AHEAD.
APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025, JUDGE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NEW INTO THE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER 13.
THIS IS GONNA BE A REPORTING ON, THIS IS ACTUALLY MR. CONLEY AS WELL.
I HAVE JUST A VERY, UM, BRIEF SUMMARY OF THIS ITEM.
UM, FIRST, UH, YOU'LL NOTE THE, UH, THE CONTRACT THAT'S ACTUALLY AT ISSUE HERE IS THE BLUE SHEET.
I APOLOGIZE, I FORGOT TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE COUNCIL PACKET, BUT IT'S, UM, PART OF THE, UH, THAT BLUE SHEET MEMO.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN NOW WITH, UM, THIS, UH, THE NEW, UH, LANGUAGE THAT, UH, YOU JUST ADOPTED.
UM, THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT AUTHORITY HAS THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE AND HOLD PROPERTY IN ITS NAME.
IT'S RECENTLY, UH, BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, A COPAN LP, UH, PENNSYLVANIA LIMITED PARTNERSHIP FOR, UM, THE PROPERTY ON THE, ON THIS, UH, PHOTO DEPICTION, IF YOU CAN SEE IT, UH, OUTLINED IN BLUE.
UM, IT'S JUST NORTHWEST OF THE, OF THE CURRENT, UH, UH, LAYOUT OF THE, UH, OF THE AIRPORT.
UM, TOGETHER WITH, UM, THOSE SMALL AREAS IN RED, UH, INTENDED, UH, DRIVEWAY CUTS TO GET ACCESS TO WICKHAM ROAD.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, NOW WITH THIS, WITH THIS NEW AUTHORITY, UM, COUNCIL'S, UH, APPROVAL ISN'T SO MUCH IN A PROPRIETARY SENSE SINCE WE'RE NOT BUYING THE PROPERTY AND PUTTING IT IN OUR NAME, IT'LL BE IN THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT AUTHORITY'S TITLE AND THE, UH, ORDINANCE LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST PASSED CAN CONSIDER SOME CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, UPON REVIEW AND THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, UM, 73 69, 73, 40, I THINK THOSE CONDITIONS ARE MET.
UM, BEYOND THAT, I WOULD, UM, TURN IT OVER TO, UM, MR. DONOVAN, MR. BIRD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE TERMS OF THE ACQUISITION ITSELF.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ACQUISITION? FINALLY, SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE 40 YEARS AGO.
THEY WANTED THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
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YAY.SO YOU'RE LAUGHING 'CAUSE YOU'RE LIKE GOING, SOMEBODY THAT FLIES KNOWS THAT YOU GUYS BEEN HOLDING OUT FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO WELL, AND, AND, AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH THE, THE CELL LAST YEAR, UH, AND, AND, UH, I REMEMBER MR. DONOVAN SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO BUY PROPERTY CONTINUOUS TO THE AIRPORT.
SO I THINK THAT WAS FROM YOUR ATTORNEY THERE.
I JUST GOTTA SAY, BUT GOOD JOB ON THIS.
UH, IF THERE IS NOTHING, DO, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST, ACTUALLY, I APOLOGIZE.
JUST, I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE REALLY QUICKLY.
I, ITEM A IS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION, UM, 43 69.
IT'S A BUDGET RESOLUTION TO CLEAN UP, UM, THE BUDGET FOR AIRPORT AUTHORITY TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS TRANSACTION.
AND THEN ITEM B IS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 73, UM, 70, WHICH AGAIN MAKES THOSE FINDINGS AND, AND SHOWS THAT THE ACQUISITION'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT NEW CODE LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST ADOPTED.
WE, UH, MR. LARUSSO, UH, APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 43 69.
CAN I ASK GO, CAN YOU PUT THE PICTURE BACK UP? YEAH, PUT THE PICTURE BACK.
UM, WHERE WAS I AT? HAVE WE BOUGHT IT YET? OR, THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN BUY IT.
SO MS. KALEY, BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE NO, NO, NO.
I'M ASKING, I'M ASKING A PIECE ON THE RUNWAY BECAUSE I, I KNOW THE RUNWAY, THE GREEN, THE GREEN AREA.
THE, THE GREEN AREA IS JUST THE, TO GO INTO THE FINAL APPROACH.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST LOOKING AT.
WHEN YOU GO, WHEN YOU'RE FLYING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SO MUCH, SO MUCH RUNWAY AREAS COME FLYING IN.
AND I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT GOING.
CAN WE GET THAT OTHER PIECE TO GO TO, TO GO IN THERE? BUT WE ALREADY OWN IT.
UH, MS. LARUSSO, YOU MADE A MOTION.
OH, GIVE, ACTUALLY I'LL GET, UH, MR. UH, SMITH.
SO WE HAVE, UH, MR. LUSO, MR. SMITH, UH, FOR ITEM A APPROVAL RESOLUTION 4, 3, 6, 9.
ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE I IN THAT.
MOTION PASSES B MR. LUSO RESOLUTION NUMBER 43 70 SECOND.
OH, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LUSO, SECOND BY VICE MAYOR NEWMAN.
WE ARE GONNA SLIDE BACK TO NUMBER NINE.
UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 25 39 MELBOURNE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT.
UH, MR. CONLEY, THANK YOU, MAYOR ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA, AMENDING THE MELBOURNE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING CHAPTER 20 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING SECTION 20 DASH 64 ADOPTION TO PROVIDE REDEVELOPMENT GOALS WITH THE REVISIONS TO CRA PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
REPORT ON THIS MS. CINDY DITMER.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, I DID WANNA MENTION THAT THE ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED AFTER THE FIRST READING WITH THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE REQUEST FOR THE NORTHERN, UM, BOUNDARY OF THE CRA, THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD THIS EVENING.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS MS. DIPPER? OKAY.
SIGN UP, CHIEF CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BRING HIM BACK TO COUNCIL MAYOR, UH, VICE VICE MAYOR.
MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 39.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR, SECOND BY MRS. BASSETT.
ACTUALLY, UH, ALL THOSE, THE, UH, ANY SAY AYE, UH, SECOND READING.
IT, I WENT BACK FROM NEW TO OLD, SO BACK TO NEW.
IS IS ITEM NUMBER 10? REPORTING ON THIS IS MS. OLI.
THIS ITEM IS FOR TASK ORDER CHA 33 FOR, UM, PHASE TWO OF THE LAKE WASHINGTON ROAD WATER MAIN DESIGN SERVICES PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UM, THAT THERE'S ONLY, UH, 1 36 INCH WATER LINE AND ONE 20 INCH WATER MAIN THAT LEAVE THE WATER PLANT FACILITIES AND GO OUT INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND, UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER TIME AS GROWTH HAS PROGRESSED THAT WE NEED ANOTHER FEED COMING OUT OF THE PLANT INTO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM TO HELP WITH FLOWS AND PRESSURES IF THERE'S A BREAK, UM, OUT SOMEWHERE IN THE SYSTEM.
AND SO THIS IS JUST, UM, PHASE TWO OF THE WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN PROJECT, WHICH IS GONNA BE A 24 INCH THAT WE PLAN TO, UM, BUILD ALONG LAKE WASHINGTON ROAD AND THEN BE ABLE TO TIE INTO, UM, THE OTHER TRUNK LINES THAT ARE REALLY AROUND HARLO
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AND, UM, LAKE WASHINGTON.POSSIBLY A FURTHER EXTENSION TO TIE BACK TO THE 36 SOMEWHERE ELSE SO THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE TIES OF THESE LINES TOGETHER.
SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, UM, IT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE HAD A BREAK ON THE WATER LINE THAT WAS ON LAKE WASHINGTON AND, UM, HAVING TO, UM, GET THOSE VALVES TO CLOSE.
SO WE ONLY HAD THE 36 AT THE TIME, AND THEN WE WERE RUNNING INTO PRESSURE PROBLEMS OUT IN THE SYSTEM.
SO, UM, THIS IS TO HELP ALLEVIATE THAT SITUATION.
AND SO WE'RE JUST REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE TASK ORDER, UM, TO CHA CONSULTING AND THE AMOUNT OF $297,122, AND IT IS A BUDGETED PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, GO AHEAD, SIR.
I, I'LL TELL YOU, I'VE READ THIS WHOLE CONTRACT.
I ONLY BECAUSE IT'S YOU, ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE REPRESENTING IT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD STUFF GOING ON HERE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR GROWTH GOING ON OUT WEST.
UM, AND, UH, THE SECOND PHASE OF, OF THE FIVE PHASES.
UM, AND I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE, UH, 24 INCH VERSUS JUST THE CANADA 30% AS WELL.
AND THAT'S ALL REALLY I WANTED TO SAY.
NOTHING ELSE? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MAYOR? GO AHEAD MA'AM.
APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER CHA 0 3 3 TO CHA CONSULTING INC.
WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA FOR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICE FOR LAKE WASH LAKE WASHINGTON ROAD WATER MAIN PHASE TWO DESIGN SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $297,122.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HELEY, SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
MOVING ON TO ITEM 11, A CONSENT AGENDA.
SOMETHING WAS, WHAT WAS PULLED, I'M SORRY.
UM, THE THIRD QUARTER BUDGET RECOMMENDATION ITEM D WAS PULLED.
WHO PULLED THAT? ME ON MY BAD SIDE RIGHT NOW, BUT, ALL RIGHT.
UH, ITEM A THROUGH REP MINUS D, WE HAVE A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH MINUS D.
IS THAT CORRECT? HOW I PUT THAT? ADAM? D FOR DAVE? YEP.
UH, ITEM A, UH, ALL OF, UH, GONNA MAKE A MOTION.
UM, I THINK YOU JUST PULLED IT 'CAUSE IT'S LETTER D, BUT I'LL SECOND THAT.
A ANY, ANY, UH, OPPOSED, UH, THAT MOTION PASSES.
UH, RALPH, AGAIN, YOU REPORT ON THAT.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, FORGIVE ME, UH, AS I STUMBLE OVER MY WORDS A LITTLE BIT HERE JUST AS I GET MYSELF SET UP.
UM, I UNDERSTAND FROM, UH, VICE MAYOR NEWMAN, HE WAS LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS ITEM.
SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS.
UH, SORRY THAT WAS GOING OFF FOR SOME REASON.
SO, UH, IN VERY, UH, GENERAL TERMS, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING IS AMENDING YOUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET, YOUR WATER AND SEWER FUND BUDGET, AND YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE WE'RE INCREASING THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET BY 6.4 MILLION, UH, THE WATER AND SEWER FUND BY 1.1 AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BY 15.3 MILLION.
UM, GOING FORWARD, UH, THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF THIS IS GONNA BE THAT APPROPRIATION OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND REALLOCATION OF OPERATIONAL SAVINGS.
THIS WAS ON PAGE SIX OF, UH, 13 OF THAT MEMO THAT WAS PREPARED.
UH, YOU CAN SEE PREDOMINANTLY IT'S, IT'S A MIX OF THAT INTEREST INCOME, REVENUE STREAM, AS WELL AS VACANT POSITION SAVINGS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, TWO ITEMS THAT I WON'T TOUCH ON BECAUSE IT'S, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BUT JUST FOR THE GROUP AND WHY, UM, YOUR REAL PROPERTY TAX, WE'VE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE HERE.
UH, STATE STATUTE AS WELL AS YOUR TRIM, UH, OVERSIGHT.
UH, LAW RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TYPICALLY HAVE US BUDGET AT 95% OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS AT TIMES IS THAT'S TO TRY AND ACCOUNT FOR, UH, THE LEVEL OF DISCOUNTS FOR PREPAYMENT OR EARLY PAYMENT, UH, AS WELL AS ANY, UM, DELINQUENCIES AND, AND, AND THE, AND THE SORT OR, UH, VALUATION CHANGES.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, WE SAW A SLIGHT INCREASE IN OUR DELINQUENCY RATE AS WELL AS A SLIGHT DECREASE IN OUR PREPAYMENT RATES.
SO, UH, JUST KIND OF, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE OFTENTIMES, THIS WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE YEARS THAT KIND OF FELL OUT OF THE NORM.
THE OTHER ITEM HERE IS THE ENGINEERING INSPECTION FEES.
UH, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED WITH THE, UH, THE BURNING, THE SMELL OF SMOKE FROM DOWN SOUTH, UH, MAYFAIR, PHASE ONE HAS BEGUN, UH, THEY'VE PAID THEIR EN ENGINEERING INSPECTION FEES AS WELL AS DESO FALCON THAT JUST CROPPED UP THERE ON THE AIRPORT OR APOLLO BOULEVARD, UH, OR APOLLO ROAD.
SO, UH, BUT THOSE TWO THINGS, UH, NOT NORMALLY SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA BRING
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GO INTO ANY MORE DEPTH FROM THE SLIDE HERE.UH, LOOKING AT YOUR INTEREST INCOME, THAT'S THAT 3.5 AT THE TOP.
UH, YOU CAN SEE GOING BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2017 TO 2018, UH, THAT WAS TRADITIONALLY NOT A REAL BIG MONEY MAKER FOR US.
UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD, UH, THE FED FUNDS EFFECTIVE RATE SET AT A PRETTY NEAR ZERO ENVIRONMENT FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
UH, WHEN WE SAW INFLATION CREEP UP AFTER THE SUPPLY SHOCK FROM COVID SHUTDOWNS, UH, WE WOUND UP HAVING TO FIGHT INFLATION BY INCREASING THE FEDERAL FUNDS RATE TO TRY AND DECREASE DEMAND.
UH, WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE OCCURRED THIS YEAR WAS A, A SERIES OF CUTS THAT WOULD'VE CUT INTO THIS REVENUE QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, THOSE DID NOT MATERIALIZE.
UH, BUT, UH, WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP NOW IS, UH, WE ARE VIEWING THIS AS STAFF AS A VERY TRANSITORY REVENUE, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW CLOSELY YOU FOLLOW THE FEDERAL RESERVE OR, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO, WE'VE SEEN, UH, THE DESIRE FROM FEDERAL ECONOMIC POLICY TO CUT THIS RATE BACK DOWN TO THOSE LEVELS YOU SAW IN THAT 27, 20 18 PERIOD OF BEING AROUND 1% OR, UH, LOWER.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE BENEFITING FROM THE SHORT TERM BORROWING RATES BEING HIGH.
UH, OUR LONGER TERM PORTFOLIO HAS NOW REINVESTED.
UH, YOU MAY SEE AN ITEM COME BEFORE YOU, UH, IN THE COMING MONTHS, UH, TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT LENGTHENING OUR INVESTMENT POLICY SO THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FURTHER, UH, BENEFIT FROM THIS, THIS, UH, TIME PERIOD.
HOWEVER, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, POLITICAL WINDS CHANGE, UH, WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF THIS THIS IS GONNA BE A REVENUE WE CAN COUNT ON TOMORROW.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE INCREASED THAT IN THE BUDGET GOING INTO 26, BUT ONLY TO A DEGREE THAT WE FELT WAS, UH, APPROPRIATE GIVEN, UH, THE POLITICAL CLIMATE, UH, COMMUNICATION SERVICE TAX.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALREADY, UH, AS PART OF YOUR 2026, UH, DISCUSSION.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE AT THE END WHERE THE, UH, BLUE AND ORANGE DOTTED LINES ARE CROSSING.
UH, WE HAVE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUES HERE THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED.
YOU CAN SEE THE BUDGET KIND OF FLATLINE THERE IN 2023.
UH, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF LACK OF FAITH IN WHAT THE STATE HAD PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLDER NUMBERS, WHEN THE CORD CUTTING ERROR WAS KIND OF OCCURRING, UH, IT GAVE, UH, STAFF PAUSE TO REALLY COUNT ON THIS REVENUE STREAM FOR, UH, BUILDING IT INTO THE BUDGET, HAVING HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW SOME OF THE UNDERLYING TAX DATA THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL, UH, PER STATE LAW.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF AUDITS THAT CAME IN, UH, ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO THAT WERE SIGNIFICANT, THAT REQUIRED, THAT REQUIRED, UH, A LOT OF BACK PAYMENT.
SO IF YOU THINK OF A NEW STREAMING SERVICE, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THE FLORIDA COMMUNICATIONS SERVICE TAX LAW, THEY HAD TO PONY UP, UH, PAY FOR THE AUDITED PERIOD.
UH, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE FIRM NUMBERS BEFORE WE BEGAN TO BUILD IT BACK INTO THE BUDGET.
AND FROM CURRENT TAX DATA, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THOSE ARE NOW BECOMING MORE FIRM NUMBERS.
SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE, UH, ESTIMATED, UH, BUDGET FOR 2026, UH, IS BEYOND WHAT THE STATE'S RECOMMENDATION IS THERE IN THAT ORANGE LINE.
UH, JUST BELOW IT, UH, YOU'VE SEEN THIS CHART A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES.
UH, THIS IS GOING BACK OVER THE, THE HISTORY OF A RESIDENTIAL 1000 KILOWATT HOUR BILL.
TYPICALLY, YOUR RESIDENTIAL HOME IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN A THOUSAND KILOWATT HOURS AND 1500.
UH, THIS IS GENERALLY HOW FP AND L KIND OF SHOWS WHAT THE RATE IMPACTS ARE DOING TO CUSTOMERS.
UH, WHAT YOU SEE ON THAT FIRST UPPER DOTTED LINE THERE WHERE IT SAYS 2 28 PROPOSED NEW TARIFFS.
I SPOKE TO YOU DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 2026 BUDGET.
THIS IS WHAT FP AND L HAS COME BEFORE THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION TO, UH, ESSENTIALLY ASK FOR PERMISSION TO CHARGE, UH, GOING FORWARD.
UH, THAT AMOUNT CANNOT GO UP FROM THAT POINT.
UH, WHAT RECENTLY CAME OUT IN THE PAST WEEK WAS THAT, UH, THERE WAS A PROPOSED RATE SETTLEMENT BETWEEN 14 OF THE LARGEST STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, UH, LOBBYING P UH, FPL FOR LOWER RATES.
UH, THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL IN REDUCING IT BY THIRD.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THAT DIP THERE.
UM, BUT, UH, IT DOES LOOK LIKE, UH, WHAT WE PROPOSED EARLIER ON IN THE YEAR, UH, WAS A BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING.
BUT THANKFULLY, UH, I I, I'LL JUMP TO THE SLIDE HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY I SAYING THANKFULLY, UH, IT'S NOT TOO TERRIBLY DIFFERENT FROM WHERE WE WERE BRINGING OUR BUDGET UP TO.
THAT'S WHERE YOUR BLUE DOTTED LINE AND, UH, ORANGE DOTTED LINE ARE KIND OF CONVERGING THERE.
THE REASON WHY THERE WAS SUCH A, A DISPARITY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, UH, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE, WE TYPICALLY DO NOT HAVE FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHTS NEXT, UH, SURCHARGE ACTION.
SO IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULARLY BAD STORM SUR CHARGE, UH, FROM A VERY ACTIVE HURRICANE SEASON, UM, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FEW TIMES I WILL KNOCK ON WOOD, NOT WITH THE CHILLER, BUT I'LL DO IT FOR THIS, BUT, UH, WE DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY SEE THOSE STORM SUR SURCHARGES.
IT MEANS SOMEWHERE IN THE STATE WE HAD A LOT OF DAMAGE.
FPL HAD TO PAY A LOT OF MONEY, AND THEY'RE RECOUPING IT FROM US.
SO, UH, BARRING ANY, UH, UNFORESEEN SURCHARGES OR, UH, VOLATILE NATURAL GAS PRICES, UH, WHAT THEY'RE FORECASTING AND WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING IS ROUGHLY THE SAME THERE IN THAT, THAT $10 MILLION FIGURE AREA.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE BUILT THAT INTO YOUR BUDGET GOING FORWARD.
UH, THAT, UH, VACANCY, UH, SAVINGS AMOUNT.
UH, WHEN WE STARTED THIS YEAR, WE WERE UP CLOSE TO ABOUT 22 TO 23% VACANT.
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IN TERMS OF POSITIONS, UH, WE HAVE SEEN, UH, GRADUAL PROGRESSION, UH, COMING DOWN TO ABOUT 9.6, 9.7%.UH, TYPICALLY WE'D LOVE TO BE IN THAT THREE TO 7%, BUT, UH, WE HAVE SEEN GREAT PROGRESS.
UH, IT, IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC YEAR FOR HIRING, UH, KUDOS TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS WHO'VE HAD THOSE LONGSTANDING VACANCIES AND DOING THEIR WORK TO TRY AND RECRUIT AS BEST THEY CAN.
UH, LOOKING FORWARD, OF COURSE, UH, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAD SAVED THIS YEAR, THAT'S A LOT TO DO WITH THOSE FIRST SIX TO SEVEN MONTHS THERE.
UH, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THAT TO BE REPEATED GOING FORWARD, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, ANY REVERSAL ON THE TRENDS WE'VE SEEN HERE.
UH, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMP AND CLASS, UH, WE'RE GONNA SEE EVEN MORE PROGRESS TO GETTING TO THAT THREE TO 7% GOAL RULE.
UH, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SLIDE THAT I'VE SHOWN, UH, IN MOST OF MY BUDGET PRESENTATIONS.
THIS IS YOUR, UH, HISTORICAL METHODOLOGY IN BUDGETING.
WE START BY ADOPTING THAT BALANCE BALANCED BUDGET, UH, AND THIS PARTICULAR QUARTER OR ANY OTHER QUARTERLY REVIEW.
AND WE FEEL THAT WE'VE SUFFICIENTLY JUSTIFIED SALARY SAVINGS OR HAVE REVENUES THAT HAVE GONE BEYOND OUR, OUR EXPECTATIONS.
UH, WE COME BACK TO YOU AND WE FUND OUR DEFERRED CAPITAL ITEMS. UH, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE CANNOT FIT WITHIN OUR NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS, AT LEAST THE MANNER IN WHICH WE DO IT TODAY.
UH, IN THE HA IN THE PAST WHEN YOU SAW THAT INTEREST AREA BETWEEN 2017 AND 18 THROUGH 2021, KIND OF LOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE MAYBE DOING HALF A MILLION TO A MILLION IN THIS MANNER.
WE ALSO HAD A, A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURE LEVELS OF STAFFING AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
BUT MORE RECENTLY BECAUSE OF THE TRANSITORY REVENUES FROM THOSE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES AFTER COVID, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME BENEFITS HERE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE DEFERRED ITEMS AND TRY TO ADDRESS WHAT WE CAN.
SO WHERE DID WE MOVE THAT 10.6 MILLION? UH, PREDOMINANTLY YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP THERE, UH, PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
I KNOW, UH, MR. MAYOR, YOU'VE MADE THE COMMENT A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES ABOUT BEING 25 ISH MILLION BEHIND ON, ON THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE ADOPTED BACK IN 2015.
UH, THIS IS LOOKING TO COME BACK AND USE SOME OF THIS TRANSITORY REVENUE TO TRY AND RECTIFY THAT ISSUE, UH, TO SOME DEGREE.
UH, BELOW THAT WE HAVE THE FIRE STATION NUMBER 75 LAND PURCHASE, UH, THE IT MASTER PLAN INVITATION.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE A SERIES OF OTHER PROJECTS THERE, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE IT MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION AS WELL AS THE PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM DEFICIT.
ALL OF THOSE WOULD'VE BEEN SHOWN IN RED AS DEFERRED IN YOUR 2026 BUDGET BOOK.
UH, ONE THING I DO REALLY WANNA POINT OUT ON THIS SLIDE BECAUSE OF THE MANNER IN WHICH WE DO THE, THE BUDGET HERE, UM, IF YOU WANT LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE SLOPE STABILIZATION ALONG EDGEWOOD DRIVE, THAT'S ABOUT, UH, MIDWAY DOWN, IT'S THAT $400,000 FIGURE, UH, PIPELINING ON CROFT WOOD DRIVE BEHIND PIPE, PELICAN MANOR, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONE JUST BELOW IT.
AND THE LEONARD WEAVER DE DITCH, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE JUST BELOW THAT AS WELL.
UH, ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN ON YOUR BUDGET BOOKS SINCE AT LEAST 2015 IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
SO I KNOW WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT LONGSTANDING PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN FUNDED.
THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHERE OUR PAST BUDGET PRACTICES IN THE MANNER IN WHICH WE APPROACH THINGS WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TO GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN LINGERING FOR WELL OVER A DECADE TO BE COMPLETE.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A FANTASTIC TIME TO USE SOME OF THESE TRANSITORY REVENUES, TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE CITY'S NEEDS WHERE WE'VE NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN ABLE TO DO SO.
UH, JUST TO TOUCH ON THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND WHY WE WERE FOCUSING HEAVILY ON IT, UH, THIS IS THAT SLIDE I'VE SHOWN YOU A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS KEEPS FLICKING OFF.
UH, BUT YOU NEEDED ABOUT 5.1 MILLION ON THAT ORANGE LINE THERE TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A STABILIZATION OF THE DETERIORATION OF YOUR ROADWAYS.
THEY WERE CURRENTLY AT A FAIR AND TO REMAIN FAIR, YOU NEEDED 5.1 MILLION TO CONTINUE TO HIT.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE COMPUTER OR IF IT'S THE, OR HOW IT IS, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM THE LAST TIME YOU DID A PRESENTATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE QUARTER MASTER.
UH, SO, UH, THE ONLY POINT I WANTED TO GO FROM HERE IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NUMBER A LOT, BUT WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY QUANTIFIED IT.
SO THIS IS, IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN $2,015, SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS 5.1 MILLION PER YEAR FROM 2015 FORWARD.
UH, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST TO MAINTAIN AND NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER, UH, FROM WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED EACH YEAR, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE NOT QUITE MADE THAT MARK, UH, MOST RECENTLY GETTING UP TO 4 MILLION IN 2025.
AND DUE TO BUDGETARY PRESSURES WE WERE NOT ABLE TO INCREASE IN 2026.
SO IN THE COURSE OF THAT 11 YEAR PERIOD, WE ARE IN A DEFICIT OF 26 MILLION 8 71, 8 66, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO THE NUMBER WE'VE CITED PREVIOUSLY.
UH, ONE ITEM THAT WE'VE NOT HISTORICALLY TOUCHED ON IS THAT 5.1 NUMBER BEING FROM 2015.
WE KNOW THAT'S DATED INFORMATION.
IF YOU WERE TO ADJUST IT FOR JUST STANDARD CPI, JUST REGULAR INFLATION THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THAT 36 UH, PERCENT OVER THAT 2015 TO 2026 TIMEFRAME, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE US INSTEAD OF CONTRIBUTING 5.1 MILLION, CONTRIBUTING 6.9.
UH, WHEN I LOOK BACK AT THE SLIDE THAT I SHOWED YOU PREVIOUSLY, THE COLORFUL ONE, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT BOTTOM BULLET POINT THERE WHERE IT SAYS ASPHALT COST PER TON, UH, YOU CAN SEE FROM 2016 TO 2025
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WHAT WE'VE BEEN INVOICED BY OUR CONTRACTOR HAS INCREASED 52%.SO, WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS SLIDE HERE AT 6.9 MILLION, UH, IF THAT CPI IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW THIS WITHOUT BEING A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND, UH, LOOKING OVER AT JENNY FOR THAT, UH, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THAT 6.9 FIGURE IS ACTUALLY IS NOT ENOUGH.
UH, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE COST FOR ASPHALT PER TIME.
SO IF YOU WERE TO CONSIDER AT THAT 52%, INSTEAD OF IT BEING THAT 6.9, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT 7.75.
SO AGAIN, WE ARE ONLY AT 4 MILLION AND WE CONTINUE TO, TO FUND THIS AT A DEFICIT.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, UH, AS WE SPOKE ABOUT AT SOME OF OUR BUDGET MEETINGS, UH, PREVIOUSLY, WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY AND RECTIFY THIS ISSUE, UH, RATHER THAN LETTING IT CONTINUE.
UH, AND WITH THAT, I'LL UH, HOLD MYSELF UP TO QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THIS, WITHIN THIS REPORT, UH, YOU'D LIKE ME TO ADDRESS, HAPPY TO DO SO.
I WAS MAKE A COMMENT ON WHY I PULLED IT, SO IF THERE'S A QUESTION FOR HIM, I'LL DEFER YOU.
SO, SO THE REASON I PULLED IT SPECIFICALLY WAS A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, UH, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $10 MILLION PLUS, UM, BEING REAPPROPRIATED INTO GREAT PROJECTS, BY THE WAY.
UM, AND I, I THINK THAT ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, CALLED OUT AS A, A WIN FOR OUR STAFF.
GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE ALL DOING HERE.
BUT THEN TWO, THAT WE SHOULD BE TAKING A LOOK AT THESE THINGS AS WELL.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME AS A $14,000 INCREASE FOR DOING, UH, WEED VEGETATION CONTROL AT A GOLF COURSE THAT IT'S IN THE SAME CONSENT AGENDA.
IT'S JUST NOT APPLES AND IT JUST, IT JUST ME IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES.
UM, BUT THEN NUMBER TWO, THE PORT THE SLIDE THAT HE HAD BROUGHT UP PRIOR ABOUT STAFFING, UM, WHICH WAS GREAT.
IT'S GOING DOWN, BUT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT EVEN AT THAT GOOD CATEGORY.
ONE THING THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES IS THEY HAVE A FUND FOR SALARY SAVINGS WHERE IF THERE'S A POLICE OFFICER POSITION THAT'S NOT FILLED, THAT MONEY GOES INTO A LITTLE POT THAT WE USE FOR INCENTIVES.
AND I BELIEVE OUR POLICE INCENTIVE PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW AND PUSH IN THAT DIRECTION.
WHAT I THINK OUR STAFF MIGHT NEED IS SOME SUPPORT ON THE STAFF IN THIS BUILDING SIDE.
SO I WAS HOPING THAT PART OF OUR APPROVAL OF THIS WE COULD ADD A, UM, MOTION OR DIRECTION, WHICH EVERYONE IS APPROPRIATE FOR JENNY AND STAFF, WHERE AT A FUTURE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY CAN ALSO INCLUDE THROWING SOME OF THOSE PERSONNEL SAVINGS INTO AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM TO HELP US RECRUIT FOLKS HERE IN CITY HALL.
UM, JUST TO, TO COMMENT ON THAT.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO, TO LOOK AT USING AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER POSITIONS.
UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO PUT IT IN THE QUARTERLY BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.
WE CAN HAVE THAT AS OUR OPERATING AND JUST USE SALARY SAVINGS IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT.
BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'LL PURSUE.
AND WHEN WE BRING THE CLASS AND COMP BACK TO YOU, WE WILL ALSO, WE'LL ALSO BRING FORTH AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM SO WE CAN GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED.
SO DO I LIKE THAT IDEA? DO YOU NEED DIRECTION ON THAT FROM COUNCIL OR, UH, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, I DUNNO WHAT YOU NEED FOR THAT THERE.
IF, IF WE NEED TO, UNLESS THERE'S OPPOSITION, I WILL MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'D BE A GREAT SUPPORT FOR YOU ALL AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE SUPPORTING YOU ALL WITH THOSE SAVINGS.
MAYOR, I WAS GONNA, UH, I FIGURED THAT VICE MAYOR WAS GONNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS LIKE THAT ABOUT THE REASON WHY HE PULLED IT.
SO, SO THAT'S WHY I SORT OF DEFERRED.
BUT I ALSO WOULD AGREE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO SORT OF THESE BUDGETARY ITEMS OR DURING MY, MY ONE-ON-ONE MEETING, I THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW, UH, TWO QUESTIONS.
NUMBER ONE IS WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR CONSENT AGENDA? UH, 'CAUSE I DO AGREE THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUDGETARY ITEMS FROM TRANSPARENCY AND ALSO IT'S GOOD NEWS, UH, AND ROSS, THANK YOU FOR DOING A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING BECAUSE IT, IT REALLY HELPS US TO SEE AND REALLY REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE AMOUNT IS, BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S $10 MILLION, YOU KNOW, IT'S DEFINITELY, UH, GOOD FOR US TO SEE AND THEN SEE THE REALLOCATION, UH, AND, AND HEAR THAT GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR A CAS CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IF IT, UH, BUT ONE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGETARY ITEMS THAT IT, IT IS JUST AUTOMATICALLY SOMETHING FOR US TO DISCUSS, SO, RIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU WANT TO GET A MOTION FOR THAT? UH, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING DONE LOOK LIKE YOU WERE, WELL, I'LL LET YOU FINISH ON THE MOTION FOR THE THIRD QUARTER BUDGET REVIEW, BUT THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION IF THERE'S CONSENSUS TO CONTINUE TO PUT IT OFF CONSENT.
PUT ON CONSENT, PUT IT ON CONSENT.
CONSENT IS USUALLY ROUTINE AND RECURRING ITEMS, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO LOOK AT DOLLAR VALUES, BUT SOMETIMES, LIKE WITH THE MICROSOFT ITEM, THOSE DOLLAR VALUES GET UP OVER A MILLION, BUT I'M NOT SURE YOU REALLY WANT THAT OFF OF CONSENT.
SO I, WE SORT OF SAY ROUTINE AND RECURRING ITEMS ARE ON THERE.
WELL, WE, WE CAN ALWAYS PULL 'EM IF EVER IF NEED.
UM, I MEAN IF, IF WE DON'T DO IT, I'M GONNA KEEP PULLING 'EM BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.
THE $10 MILLION, THE LAST ONE WAS 2 MILLION FOR A FIRE STATION.
WAS THAT WHAT IT WAS? FROST LAST? NO, THAT, THAT ONE WAS A BIT HIGHER.
UH, SO THAT, AND, AND I'M SURE THERE MIGHT BE A QUESTION OF WHY THERE WAS TWO BACK TO BACK THAT WERE THIS SIZE.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY,
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UH, DUE TO SOME STAFFING CONSTRAINTS IN MY DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR TO BE ABLE TO GET THE FOURTH QUARTER DONE IN, IN TIME.SO WE ARE EFFECTIVELY RE THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, WHICH HAD INCREDIBLY HIGH TRANSITORY REVENUES AT THAT POINT.
SO I, I I JUST CAUTION YOU ON THAT.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'LL BE SEEING THIS MOVING FORWARD.
UH, A LOT OF WHAT WE WERE DOING GOING INTO THIS 2026 TIME PERIOD WAS TRYING TO ADJUST AND, AND ACCOMMODATE MM-HMM.
SOME OF THOSE INCREDIBLY FAST MOVING INFLATIONARY PRESSURES ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS WE'VE SEEN INCREASE JUST OUTTA CONTROL.
UM, WE'VE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT, BUT WE'RE ALSO STILL CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, WITH NEW, UH, ECONOMIC DATA COMING OUT.
AND, AND, UH, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ALL GREAT STUFF.
AND THEN JUST ON A FINAL NOTE ON IT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THREE OF US AROUND THE AIRPORT BOARD, WE GET A BUDGET REVIEW EVERY SINGLE MEETING THAT WE DO.
I NOT TELLING YOU TO DO THAT, I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO AT EVERY MEETING, BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR ALL OF US TO CONSIDER.
'CAUSE IF SOME OF YOU GUYS WANTED TO REAPPROPRIATE SOME OF THAT FUNDING, I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO DO IT.
BUT IF THERE WAS ANY OF THAT FUNDING THAT YOU SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DON'T NEED $40,000 HERE, THERE'S A CRITICAL NEED SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US.
WE'RE NOT, WE CONTROL THE BUDGET, MA'AM.
WE CONTROL THE, THIS IS THE QUESTION.
NO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY AND AT $2 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT $330 MILLION, THAT'S, THAT'S A SMALL PART.
I MEAN, WE'RE AROUND 10 MILLION OF IT.
BUT THIS WAS, IF AS HE SAID, THIS WAS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, THIS IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.
IT COULD HAVE GONE THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
ALL RIGHT, GUYS, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE THIRD QUARTER REVIEW.
MOVING ON ITEM NUMBER 14, THIS IS ENGINEERING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 40.
MINISTER CURRENTLY THANK MAYOR.
THIS IS, UH, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A ONE FOOT WIDE BY 14 FOOT LONG PORTION OF THE SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF LOT 31 OF THE SWEETWOOD ESTATES.
PLAT 1627 SWEETWOOD DRIVE, MAKING FINDINGS, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, UH, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
UH, THIS IS A ABANDONED AND VACATE, UH, REQUEST FOR A ONE FOOT WIDE, 14 FOOT LONG PORTION OF A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT WITHIN THE SUITE WITH ESTATES, UH, PLAT, UH, FOR 1627, UH, SWEETWOOD DRIVE.
UH, WHAT HAS EFFECTIVELY HAPPENED HERE IS THE, UM, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS TRYING TO GET THE PROPERTY BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.
UH, THEIR BUILDER CAME IN, THEY DID AN EXPANSION ON THEIR HOUSE.
THEY WENT, UM, ONE FOOT TOO FAR, IT WENT INTO THE EASEMENT.
AND, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A RELEASE OF THE EASEMENT IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.
UM, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH REVIEW CRITERIA IN SECTION 52 DASH NINE NINE OF THE MELBOURNE CITY OF MELBOURNE CODE AND ORDINANCES IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UH, PURSUANT TO 52 100 B.
IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE VACATION WILL NOT COMPROMISE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, AESTHETICS, OR ECONOMIC ORDER.
UH, WE'VE CHECKED THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ISN'T GONNA CAUSE ANY FUTURE ISSUES WITH, UH, UTILITIES OR DRAINAGE THAT WOULD'VE OTHERWISE USED THIS EASEMENT.
UH, SO IT'S BASICALLY, UM, JUST ALLOWING THIS TO GET THE PROPERTY OWNER BACK IN THE RIGHT, UH, RIGHT STANDING FOR THE PROPERTY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ENNI ON THAT? MA'AM? GO AHEAD, SIR.
I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, WAS THIS HOUSE JUST CLOSED ON? I MEAN, DID THEY JUST GET A CO UH, NO, SIR.
IT'S, UM, BEEN, UM, A LITTLE BIT WHILE IT'S BASICALLY THE, THE OWNER'S TRYING TO FIX IT.
AND, AND, AND I'D BE CURIOUS, NOT THIS EVENING, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BE CURIOUS AS TO, UM, UH, HOW MANY TIMES THIS HOUSE HAS SOLD.
UH, HOW MANY TIMES DID THE, UM, UH, THE SURVEYORS MISSED IT? AND HERE WE ARE.
DID, DID THIS COST THE HOMEOWNER, THIS TRANSFERS OCCURRED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS? DID IT COST THE HOMEOWNER ANY MONEY TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS? UH, APPLICATION FEES, ET CETERA? SO THEY DO HAVE TO, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT APPROXIMATE AMOUNT? UH, THEY DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION FEE, UH, FOR AN ABANDONED AND VACATED, I BELIEVE THAT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M NOT 100% SURE ON THAT AMOUNT.
UM, BUT I DO NOT BEL UM, I DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION AS TO HOW MANY TIMES THIS HOUSE IS.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M TRANSFERRED.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKING CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS IS, IT JUST SEEMS LUDICROUS THAT SOMEHOW A, A, A THIRD OR FOURTH OWNER IS HAVING TO PAY FOR THIS.
AND WHEN IT WAS THE BUILDER'S FAULT.
AND THEN IF THERE'S BEEN A THIRD OR FOURTH OWNER, WHERE ARE THE SURVEYORS AND WHERE IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY? I, SO I JUST, I LOOK, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES.
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU SAYING SIT DOWN, HAVING A BEER, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING LIKE, THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE WHATSOEVER TO ME IN THE
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PROCESS OF GOVERNMENT.UH, THIS IS A CAUSE ID TO SHOW ITEM.
ANY DISCLOSURES? UH, NOTE, NO DISCLOSURES.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
BRING BACK TO COUNSEL MAYOR, GO AHEAD MA'AM.
APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 40.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. VA, SECOND BY VICE MAYOR NEWMAN FOR ITEM 14.
MOVING ON TO ITEM 15, MS. TURNER.
UH, THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE ANNUAL STORMWATER UTILITY BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, AND THE AMOUNT OF $3,775,000, UH, PER CITY CODE SECTION 50 DASH 18 D AS IN DOG COUNSEL SHALL ADOPT A BUDGET FOR THE OPERATING OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR ENSU OF THE ENSUING CITY FISCAL YEAR ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER 15TH OF EACH YEAR.
UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGET WILL BE DISCUSSED IN COUNSEL, UM, FOR SEPTEMBER 11TH SPECIAL WORKSHOP MEETING AS BASED ON THE ASSESSMENT RATE OF $44 PER EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
UM, WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 43 71.
UH, THIS BUDGET INCLUDES FUNDING FOR THE FOLLOWING, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, SEP SEWER CONTINUATION OF COMPREHENSIVE STORMWATER CONVEYANCE INVENTORY AND EVALUATION, WHICH IS THE FULL ASSESSMENT OF OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM, UH, BAFFLE BOXES AT RIVERVIEW PARK, DARROW AVENUE, LION STREET SEMINARY CEMETERY, AND MELBOURNE CEMETERY.
ALONG WITH THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE, UH, WE'RE REQUESTING OR, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT FISCAL YEAR 25 26 STORMWATER UTILITY BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,775,000.
WE HAVE NO SIGNUP SHEET CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
APPROVAL, UH, RESOLUTION NUMBER 4 3 7 1.
I HAVE A MOTION BY THIS BASSETT.
IN THAT MOTION PASSES MAY MA'AM, CAN I JUST ADD THAT NEXT YEAR WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO BRING THIS RESOLUTION WITH THE REST OF THE BUDGET SO THAT YOU'RE APPROVING THE BUDGET AS A WHOLE? WE HAVE HISTORICALLY DONE THIS RESOLUTION PRIOR TO THE BUDGET HEARING AND AMONGST STAFF.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND WE'RE LIKE, WE DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T BRING IT.
SO LIKE, LIKE WHEN YOU APPROVE THE BUDGET, YOU APPROVE THE MILLAGE RATE, THE BUDGET, AND THEN THE CRA BUDGETS.
WE'LL HAVE THE STORMWATER UTILITY BUDGET ON THERE TOO NEXT YEAR.
ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT, UH, GONNA BE ITEM NUMBER 16 REPORTING ON THIS IS ROSS MCGINN.
UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE AT THIS TIME TREVOR MCCARTHY.
HE'S BEEN OUR RATE CONSULTANT, UH, PRIMARY, UH, WITH REF TEIS FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS.
UH, HE HAS A PREPARED A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TO DISCUSS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS.
UH, AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THANK YOU ROSS.
UH, TREVOR MCCARTHY FOR THE RECORD, I'M A MANAGER WITH, UM, REF TELUS.
UM, I'M GONNA BE GOING THROUGH THE RESULTS OF, UH, THE RATE STUDY TONIGHT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MONTHLY, UM, WATER AND WASTEWATER USER RATES.
WE ARE ALSO, UM, LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE IMPACT FEES.
SO THOSE ARE FEES, UH, PAID UPON CONNECTION TO DEVELOPERS.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT PREPARED FOR YOU TONIGHT, BUT, UH, WE WILL BRING, WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK.
SO, UM, THIS FIRST, THIS FIRST, UH, DISCUSSION WILL BE ABOUT THE, UH, THE MONTHLY USER RATES.
SO, UM, IN OUR, IN OUR, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PHASE ONE HERE.
SO WE'VE DEVELOPED A FINANCIAL FORECAST THROUGH 2030, UM, INCLUDING PROJECTIONS OF CUSTOMERS, REVENUES, UM, OPERATING EXPENSE, UH, EXPENSES, CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, SO THE, THE, THE CIP, UM, AS WELL AS AS FISCAL POSITION.
SO, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, WE REFER WHAT WE REFER TO AS REVENUE SUFFICIENCY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, WHAT ARE THE CASH FLOW NEEDS OF THE UTILITY SYSTEM THAT NEED TO BE FUNDED FROM MONTHLY USER RATES.
SO, A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
UM, THE LAST RATE STUDY WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, UM, ON FEBRUARY 28TH, 2023.
AT THAT TIME, UM, THE COUNCIL DID ADOPT A, UM, UH, RATE PLAN THAT ENCOMPASSED THREE FISCAL YEARS.
UM, AND THOSE WERE IMPLEMENTED A 14% INCREASE, EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2023, AND THEN AN 8% INCREASE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.
SO JUST RECENTLY FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AND THESE INCREASES APPLIED TO ALL MONTHLY WATER AND WASTEWATER, UM, USER RATES.
SO SOME OF THE REASONS BEHIND THAT LAST STUDY AND THE DRIVERS OF THOSE INCREASES, UM, WE SAW IT AND WERE, WERE SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE TO CATCH UP WITH INFLATION.
UM, RATES HAD NOT BEEN ADOPTED OR INCREASED SINCE AND WAS HIGH OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, AND SO THERE NEEDED TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A CATCH UP AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S REFLECTED THERE IN THAT 14% INCREASE.
AND SECONDLY, UM, ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UM, THE UTILITIES MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS
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IN CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BOTH FOR RENEWALS AND REPLACEMENTS AND EXPANSION RELATED PROJECTS TO SERVE NEW CUSTOMERS.SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND THERE.
UM, WE DID, DID IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL RATE INCREASES DURING THAT LAST STUDY THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2028.
UM, AND I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, CAP OF A CAPITAL PLAN.
THIS, UM, THE UTILITY DID ISSUE REVENUE BONDS IN OCTOBER OF 2023.
UH, WE SUPPORTED THAT PROCESS AND DEVELOPED A FEASIBILITY REPORT, ANOTHER FINANCIAL FORECAST, AND WE ACTUALLY REVISED SOME OF OUR RATE RECOMMENDATIONS DURING THAT STUDY.
UM, AND I'LL, I'LL SHOW YOU THOSE ON THE, THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
SO, INITIALLY ON THE WATER SYSTEM, UM, THAT FEBRUARY OF 2023, WE HAD IDENTIFIED A 3% INCREASE IN 26, 16% IN 2027.
AND THAT 16% IS, UM, TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR THE LOSS OF WEST MELBOURNE AS A, UM, BULK CUSTOMER, AND THEN AN 8% IN 2028.
THOSE WERE REVISED, UM, SLIGHTLY IN THE FEASIBILITY REPORT TO 6%, 17%, AND 11%.
UM, WASTEWATER, THE WASTEWATER RATES, WE DID NOT IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL NEED FOR RATE INCREASES AT THAT TIME, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY WERE, UH, 3% IN 26 AND 27 AND 8% IN 2028.
SO, UH, SO NOW I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S CHANGED SINCE THAT, UH, THOSE 2023 FINANCIAL FORECASTS.
SO, JUST, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF COMPARISON OF OUR PROJECTIONS.
UM, CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2025 REVENUES ARE PROJECTED TO BE ABOUT 6% GREATER THAN WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROJECTED.
HOWEVER, OPERATING EXPENSES ARE, ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE ABOUT 7% GREATER ON AVERAGE THROUGH OUR FIVE, THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR FORECAST.
SO THESE GENERALLY ARE, ARE SOMEWHAT OFFSETTING EACH OTHER.
UM, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES, AND I THINK THAT, I THINK THESE TWO, UM, REFLECT THAT THESE TWO FACTORS.
UM, BUT, BUT THE NUMBER ONE COMPONENT DRIVING THE CHANGES SINCE THE LAST STUDY IS THE INCREASE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO SIX YEARS.
SO, UM, THE LAST SIX YEAR PLAN HAD A A $300 MILLION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AND IT IS NOW, UM, APPROXIMATELY $500 MILLION.
AND SOME, SOME OF THOSE CHANGES, UM, INCLUDE ABOUT AN, UH, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN ADDITIONAL WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, WASTEWATER, UM, PLANT PROJECTS, AND AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $35 MILLION IN, IN WATER PRODUCTION FACILITIES.
SO CAP CAPITAL IS REALLY DRIVING A LOT OF THESE, A LOT OF THE NEED FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE RECOMMENDING, UH, THIS EVENING AS WELL AS THE, THE ONGOING NEED TO KEEP PACE WITH INFLATION.
THAT'S, UH, UH, SORT OF A CONSTANT, UH, AREA OF DISCUSSION.
SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE, UH, THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT YEAR OVER YEAR BY FUNDING SOURCE IN THE, IN THE, UH, GRAPH HERE, UM, WE ARE ASSUMING THE ISSUANCE OF ADDITIONAL DEBT OVER THE, OVER THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD, UM, ABOUT 60% OF THE CAPITAL PLAN WE'RE ASSUMING WILL BE FUNDED FROM DEBT.
AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT ON THE, THE NEXT SLIDE.
WE HAVE PRIORITIZED THE USE OF CASH RESERVES, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT PROJECTS AND THOSE PRIOR, THOSE PROJECTS APPROPRIATED IN PRIOR YEARS.
UM, WE'VE ALSO PRIORITIZED THE USE OF IMPACT FEES, THOUGH THE UTILITY HAS HISTORICALLY USED THOSE TO PAY FOR THE EXPANSION RELATED PORTION ON DEBT, WHICH IS A GREAT, WHICH IS A GREAT USE OF THOSE, OF THOSE FEES.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, THE USE OF ADDITIONAL DEBT TO FUND MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UM, PARTICULARLY EX EXPANSION PROJECTS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE, THE LISTED PROJECTS THERE, RO PLANT IMPROVEMENTS, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO BOTH OF THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES, NEW RAW WATER WELLS.
AND THERE ARE VARIOUS OTHER RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT AS WELL AS EXPANSION RELATED PROJECTS TO SERVE, TO SERVE NEW CUSTOMERS.
THAT'S SIR, BECAUSE YOU, YOU GOT 48 PAGES HERE AND BY THE TIME YOU GET DONE WITH IT, I'M GONNA FORGET WHAT MY QUESTION WAS.
UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF, OF THE PROCESS AND YOU SAID YOU DON'T HAVE THAT STUDY OR YOU DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR US TONIGHT.
BUT YOU'RE FACTORING IN IMPACT FEES INTO THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE TELLING US RIGHT NOW.
HOW DOES THAT BALANCE FOR US? SO HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT IS GONNA BE AN IMPACT FEE, WHAT ISN'T GONNA BE AN IMPACT FEE, AND WHAT IS THAT COST GONNA BE? SURE.
SO, UM, SO THE WAY THAT WE'RE FACTORING IN IMPACT FEES NOW, SO, UM, THE IMPACT FEE REVENUES THAT WE'RE, ARE PROJECTING ARE BASED UPON OUR GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS.
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AND I'LL, I'LL HIT ON THE GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS, UM, LITTLE IN A COUPLE SLIDES, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE MADE PRETTY MODEST GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS.AND SO, UM, SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO FACT, THERE'S TWO FACTORS.
THE, THE GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS, RIGHT? AND THEN WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THE IMPACT FEES ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY ASSUMING THAT THE ADOPTED IMPACT FEES ARE, ARE GENERATING THOSE REVENUES AT THIS, AT THIS TIME.
SO YOU'RE NOT, SO YOU'RE IN THIS WHOLE SCHEME OF THINGS RIGHT HERE, YOU'RE PROPOSING A A 10% INCREASE IN 8.5, UH, FOR THE WASTEWATER, I MEAN, READ THROUGH THE PACKAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, BUT YOU'RE ASSUMING IMPACT FEES, BUT YOU'RE NOT ASSUMING THAT WE WOULD INCREASE IMPACT FEES AS WELL TOO, OR WE WOULD DECREASE IMPACT FEE, YOU'RE JUST SAYING JUST STEADY EXACTLY.
WHAT WE GET RIGHT NOW IS EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA COLLECT IN IMPACT FEES.
IS THAT KIND OF A MOVING TARGET KIND OF MORE OR LESS? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
MORE LESS THAN, THAN HOW ABOUT WE JUST DON'T ADD THE WHOLE 10% TO THE, TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, TAX PAYING CUSTOMER OUT THERE AND WE INCREASE OUR IMPACT FEES? I MEAN, IS THAT GONNA BE A PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING TO US AS WELL TOO? MAYBE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE MONEY THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT OF OUR, OUR, UH, UH, CONSTITUENTS, UH, POCKET, WE'RE GONNA OFFSET IT WITH SOME IMPACT FEES.
I THINK, I THINK THE PLAN, I THINK IT WILL BE OFFSET WITH IMPACT FEES.
DO I THINK THAT IT'S GONNA MAKE A MATERIAL IMPACT ON DAY ONE? SURE.
TO SAY THAT WE CAN LOWER THESE RATE INCREASES IN YEAR ONE OF THE FORECAST BASED ON THE ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES? I DON'T FORESEE THAT BEING THE CASE, BUT, OKAY.
AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY A, A BIG PORTION OF THE REASON WHY STAFF WANTS TO REVIEW THE IMPACT FEES TO MAKE SURE THAT GROWTH IS PAYING ITS OWN WAY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS ANNUALLY AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING MORE IMPACT FEES AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT CAN OFFSET RATES IN THE FUTURE, UM, THEN I THINK THAT WILL, THE CITY WILL REALIZE THAT BENEFIT.
NOW, MY INTENT IS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE FEES, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD TO EVERYBODY FOR EVERYTHING, FOR ANYTHING THAT THEY DO.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S GOTTA BE A, A, A, YOU KNOW, A A FORM OF, UM, FEASIBILITY, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT WORKS FOR ALL FOR EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE MAKING THE PRODUCT AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE BUYING THE PRODUCT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S THAT MIDDLE IN BETWEEN.
SO I'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR CALCULATION AND YOUR, UH, ANALYSIS ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE MOVING FORWARD.
NOW, YOU'LL HAVE THAT FOR US BEFORE THE, UH, THE FIRST, UH, BUDGET MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO WITH STAFF, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO PRIORITIZE THAT MS. LAMB OVER HERE.
UM, SO VERY VALID POINT ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES, HOWEVER, THE FIRST YEAR IS STILL GONNA BE THE RATE THAT IS SUGGESTED DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE IMPACT FEES.
AND I SAY THE FIRST YEAR, I SUSPECT IT'LL BE MORE THAN THE FIRST YEAR, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DECREASE IN FUTURE YEARS IF THE IMPACT FEES HAVE ANY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, UM, IMPACT.
IMPACT FEES HAVE AN IMPACT, BUT, UM, BUT IT, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT ADJUSTS AND, AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH POSSIBLE DECREASING THE, THE RATE AT THAT POINT.
AND COUNSEL HAS THAT PREROGATIVE EACH YEAR.
I, AGAIN, IT'S JUST PUTTING A, EXCUSE ME JUST FOR A SECOND, JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
IF I DON'T ASK THAT QUESTION, SOMEBODY ELSE OUT THERE IS GONNA ASK ME THAT QUESTION AND, AND HER, YOU KNOW, SAY WHEN THEY GET THAT FIRST WATER BILL, IT'S GONNA BE WHAT, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, GO AHEAD ADAM.
I'M WELL, AND AND I'LL JUST GO AHEAD.
UH, JUST A REMINDER, RIGHT, THAT IM, IMPACT FEES ARE FOR THE GROWTH AND FOR IMPACTS RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS RELATED TO THAT GROWTH, RIGHT? STATE LAW IS VERY CLEAR.
IMPACT FEES ARE NOT DESIGNED TO COVER ONGOING AND CONTINUING OPERATIONS AND, AND MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? SO I THINK A SMALLER COMPONENT OF THE OVERALL COSTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPARED TO, COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN HERE OF CONTINUING ONGOING REVENUES AND OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
AND THE, THE BIG NOD FROM ROSS TOLD ME I WAS ON THE RIGHT TRACK, RIGHT?
SO I'M TRYING TO GET A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE CURVE HERE,
ALRIGHT, WE'RE AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
AND LA LAST POINT ON THE IMPACT FEES AND, AND ABOUT THE RATES.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUING DEBT, THERE ARE RATE COVENANTS IN THAT ARE PART OF THE BOND RESOLUTION WHERE, UM, YOU CAN'T JUST PLEDGE, UM, IMPACT FEES FOR, TO MEET YOUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THERE IS A NEED TO, TO RAISE THOSE, UM, RATES TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THE CITY GOES FORWARD, YOU KNOW, ISSUING DEBT IN THE FUTURE AS WE HAVE PLANNED HERE.
UM, SO JUST, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND TOO, THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER RAMIFICATIONS, UM, REGARDING THOSE COV UH, RATE COVENANTS IN, IN THE BOND RESOLUTION.
SO, UM, RE REGARDING DEBT, WE'VE MADE, WE'VE MADE SOME, UH, ASSUMPTIONS
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REGARDING THE, UH, THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT GOING FORWARD.WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR, PFM, UM, OBVIOUSLY CITY STAFF, THE CITY'S CONSULTING ENGINEER, JACOBS TO, TO REALLY PRIOR ONE PRIORITIZE PROJECTS INTO THE DIFFERENT, UM, LOANS YOU SEE HERE.
AND, UM, AS WELL AS COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, REALISTIC ESTIMATES BASED ON MARKET CONDITIONS AND, AND THE AVAILABILITY OF DIFFERENT, UM, DEBT OPTIONS THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE UTILITY HAS TO FINANCE THESE MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UM, SO FIRST WE'VE ASSUMED THE LINE OF CREDIT OF $46.5 MILLION WOULD BE ISSUED IN 2026.
UM, THIS, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE, THE CITY TO DRAW FUNDS AS NEEDED AND DELAY THAT FIRST, UM, BOND ISSUE WHEN, SO WHEN YOU ISSUE BONDS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE PAYING, YOU'RE GENERALLY GONNA HAVE TO BE MAKING THOSE PAYMENTS RIGHT AS YOU ISSUE THEM.
YOU'RE GONNA GET A LUMP SUM OF MONEY UPFRONT AND THOSE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS ARE GONNA HIT, UM, BASED ON THAT FULL AMOUNT GENERALLY.
UM, BUT THE LINE OF CREDIT CAN HELP DEFER SOME OF THOSE LARGER DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, LET RATES, YOU KNOW, CATCH UP TO, UH, TO THE NEW, UM, TO THE NEW EXPENDITURE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO, AND THEN WE DO ASSUME A DEBT ISSUANCE IN 2027 OF APPROXIMATELY 107 MILLION.
UM, INTEREST RATE, WE'VE ASSUMED 4.8% WITH A 30 YEAR TERM.
UM, THE, THE CITY'S ALSO PURSUING A, A WIA LOAN.
SO THIS IS A LOAN ISSUED, UM, THROUGH THE EPA AND, AND THEY'VE, UM, THEY, THEY'VE COMMUNICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW THE CITY TO ESSENTIALLY ISSUE THREE LOANS UNDER THE SAME LOAN AGREEMENT.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS ALSO, UM, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME BENEFITS TO THE WIA LOAN PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW, ONE, IT'S A, THEY ALLOW FOR A 35 YEAR AMORTIZATION PERIOD.
THEY ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS TO, TO DO, UM, INTEREST ONLY, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
UM, WHERE WHEREAS THAT CAN BE BE, UM, SOMEWHAT, SOMEWHAT COSTLY WITH REVENUE BONDS.
UM, SO DE DEFINITELY SOME BENEFITS THERE FOR THAT CAN BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, ESPECIALLY WHEN, UM, FINANCING SOME OF THESE LARGER, UM, PROJECT AMOUNTS.
SO WE'VE ASSUMED THREE TRANCHES OR, OR YOU CAN THINK OF THEM AS SEPARATE LOANS AND 27, 28 AND 29.
SO EACH HAS BEEN ASSUMED WITH A 4.95% INTEREST RATE, UH, INTEREST RATE WITH A 35 YEAR AMORTIZATION PERIOD.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, ONE FINAL ISSUE IN FISCAL YEAR 2030, UM, OF ABOUT $39 MILLION.
OKAY? AND, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE PROJE, UH, EXISTING AND PROJECTED DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS.
UM, THEY'RE INCREASING, THEY'RE PROJECTED TO INCREASE FROM $12 MILLION TODAY TO ABOUT $26 MILLION BY, UM, BY FISCAL YEAR 2030.
SOMETHING THAT, UM, BOND HOLDERS CREDIT RAGING AGENCIES AND OTHER, AND OTHER CREDITORS WILL LOOK AT IS THE COVERAGE RATIO.
THIS IS NET REVENUES BEFORE ANY CAPITAL, UM, SPENDING OR, OR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT DIVIDED BY THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS.
SO, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE PROJECTED HERE THAT THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT IS TO MAINTAIN, UM, A 100%, UM, COVERAGE FACTOR, AND WE'RE PROJECTING THAT THEN THAT WILL, THAT, THAT WILL BE MET EVEN, UM, CONSIDERING THESE NEW, THE ISSUANCE OF THESE ADDITIONAL, UH, BONDS THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
SO AGAIN, JUST TOUCHING ON THE, THE LOSS OF WEST MELBOURNE AS A BULK CUSTOMER.
UM, THEY HAVE, UH, NOTIFIED THE CITY THAT THEY WILL, UM, CEASE PURCHASES BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.
THIS REPRESENTS ABOUT 8% OF TOTAL REVENUES OR $5.7 MILLION.
UM, FOR THE, FOR THE WATER SYSTEM, THAT'S ABOUT 14% OF REVENUES.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER FACTOR CONTRIBUTING TO THE, UH, TO THE RATE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THAT, THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU, UH, THIS EVENING.
OTHER MAJOR ASSUMPTIONS, UH, WE'VE MADE, WE'VE MADE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT CUSTOMER GROWTH, UM, ABOUT LESS THAN 1% PER YEAR.
WE THINK THIS IS FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE, UM, WILL LIKELY BE MORE GROWTH.
IT'S JUST HARD TO DETERMINE WHEN THEY WILL ACTUALLY CONNECT, BECOME CUSTOMERS OF THE SYSTEM AND START USING WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES AND PAYING THOSE BILLS.
SO WE'RE BEING CONSERVATIVE HERE.
OPERATING EXPENSES, WE'VE ESCALATED THOSE ON A LINE ITEM BASIS.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF OUR ESCALATION FACTORS THAT WE'VE USED THREE AND HALF PERCENT ANNUALLY FOR LABOR.
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4.1% FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.O OVERALL, UM, OPERATING EXPENSES WERE PROJECTING TO INCREASE APPROXIMATELY 3% PER YEAR.
UM, THERE ARE SOME ONETIME PAYMENTS EARLIER OR ONETIME COST EARLIER IN THE FORECAST THAT'S, THAT'S MAKING THAT NUMBER A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
SO JUST KEEP, KEEP THAT IN MIND IF YOU'RE THINKING 3% IS, IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ON THE LOW END.
GIVEN, UM, GIVEN INFLATION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, INFLATION HAS COME DOWN, UM, THANKFULLY, SO NOT, NOT SEEING IT QUITE AS HIGH LIKE, LIKE WE DID BETWEEN, UM, UH, 2019 TO 2023, THE UTILITY RATE OF RETURN TRANSFER THAT'S MAINTAINED AT 6.5%.
UM, IF, IF THE RATES ARE ADOPTED, THOSE, THOSE INCREASES WOULD GO FROM $4.4 MILLION, OR EXCUSE ME, THOSE TRANSFERS WOULD GO FROM $4.4 MILLION IN 2025 TO $6.4 MILLION BY 2030 BASED ON THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASES.
UM, SO THIS, THIS SLIDE HERE, THIS CHART SHOWS, UH, REVENUE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE BARS REPRESENT THE CASH FLOW REQUIREMENTS, AND THE RED DOTTED LINE REPRESENTS THE REVENUES AT EXISTING RATES.
SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE, THOSE REVENUES ARE ACTUALLY DECLINING SLIGHTLY IN 27 AND 28 BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF, OF WEST MELBOURNE.
UM, AND SO WHEN THE BARS ARE OVER THE LINE, UH, CASH, CASH FLOW REQUIREMENTS ARE HIGHER THAN THE, ARE HIGHER THAN THE REVENUES.
SO OUR OBSERVATION IS THAT REVENUES, UH, RATE INCREASES ARE NEEDED AND DUE TO SEVERAL FACTORS, INFLATION ON OPERATING AND CAPITAL, UM, EXPENSES, THE LOSS OF WEST MELBOURNE, SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, UM, TO FUND BOTH RENEWALS AND REPLACEMENTS AND EXPANSION RELATED PROJECTS.
UM, THE NEED TO ISSUE DEBT TO FINANCE THOSE MAJOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND, UH, A NEED TO MAINTAIN A STRONG, UM, FISCAL POSITION AND, UM, STRONG FINANCIAL CREDIT TO PROMOTE, UM, RATE SUSTAINABILITY AND FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY OVER THE, OVER THE FORECAST PERIOD.
SO THESE ARE OUR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT THE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED RATE INCREASES ON HERE COMPARED TO, UM, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY RECOMMENDING, UM, 10.5% PER YEAR FOR WATER AND 7% PER YEAR FOR WASTEWATER.
AND WE ARE, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THOSE WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST OF EACH FISCAL YEAR.
UM, THIS IS JUST A REVISED VERSION OF THAT REVENUE REQUIREMENTS CHART.
YOU CAN SEE THE BLACK LINE NOW REPRESENTS THE REVENUES AT THE PROPOSED RATES.
UM, WE'RE, SO THIS THE REVENUE REQUIREMENTS, THIS IS VERY MUCH A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT CASH BALANCES.
SO, UM, THE PLAN ALSO, UM, PROJECTS THAT OPERATING RESERVES OF NO LESS THAN 25% OF RATE REVENUES WILL BE MAINTAINED.
THIS IS JUST A GOOD ENTERPRISE FUND BUSINESS PRACTICE, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, A CAPITAL FUND RESERVE OF ONE AND A HALF PERCENT OF DEPRECIABLE ASSETS.
SO MAKING SURE THERE'S HEALTHY RESERVES TO REACT TO, UM, UNFORESEEN COST.
AND NEXT WE HAVE A AVERAGE MONTHLY RESIDENTIAL BILL UNDER EXISTING RATES AND PROPOSED RATES.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A 10.5% INCREASE TO WATER RATES AND 7% INCREASE TO WASTEWATER RATES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, FOR, FOR 2026, THAT BILL WOULD GO UP ABOUT $6 AND 77 CENTS FOR YOUR AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER USING 4,000 GALLONS OF WATER.
AND, UH, ANNUALLY, UM, ON AVERAGE, THIS IS ABOUT AN EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE TO THAT AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY BILL.
WE'VE PREPARED A, A RATE COMPARISON TO COMPARE, UM, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE'S RATES TO, TO SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORING LOCAL GOVERNMENT RATES.
UM, THE SURVEY AVERAGE IS $82 AND 14 CENTS.
THESE ARE, THESE RATES ARE ALL SHOWN AT, AT FISCAL YEAR 2025 RATES FOR THE, FOR THE SURVEY GROUP.
UM, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE'S UNDER THAT AVERAGE TODAY, WE'RE PROPOSING TAKING, UM, THAT AVERAGE BILL TO $87 AND 42 CENTS IN 2026.
UM, WE DO KNOW THAT MANY OF THESE UTILITIES WILL BE PASSING ALONG THEIR OWN RATE INCREASES, HOWEVER, AND, AND, AND ON THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES RATE INCREASES, WE'VE PREPARED A LIST OF THOSE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT WE KNOW HAVE RATED RATE ADJUSTMENTS ADOPTED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WOW, NOT TO NECESSARILY, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY, UH, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THESE RATE INCREASES OR, OR,
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OR THE RATE COMPARISONS RATHER.UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA SUGGEST THAT THIS IS A REPORT CARD AND, AND COMPARISON, UM, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF COMPARISON, BUT I I, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT REALLY ACROSS THE STATE.
ANECDOTALLY, YOU KNOW, WE WORK, OUR FIRM WORKS WITH A LOT OF UTILITIES.
WE ARE SEEING RATE INCREASES THAT ARE ON THE HIGHER LEVEL.
MANY OF THESE, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THEIR UTILITIES ARE SEEING INCREASES WELL OVER 8%.
UM, MY COLLEAGUE WAS JUST IN SARASOTA COUNTY TODAY, AND, AND, UH, THEY'RE ADOPTING A A 6.4% PLUS, UM, PLUS THEIR INDEX FOR, FOR WATER.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING MUCH HIGHER, UH, RATE INCREASES THAN, YOU KNOW, THOSE HISTORICAL INFLATIONARY LEVELS OF TWO TO 4%.
AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SLIDE SHOWING SOME OTHER, UM, INCREASES THERE.
SO TO CONCLUDE, THE, THE EXISTING EXISTING RATE REVENUES ARE NOT SUFFICIENT TO FUND THE REVENUE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SYSTEM OVER THE FORECAST PERIOD.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LARGELY DUE TO THE NEED TO, TO KEEP PACE WITH INFLATION TO FUND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UM, AND TO ACCOUNT FOR THE, THE LOSS OF WEST MELBOURNE AS A BULK CUSTOMER.
UM, SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER ADOPTING THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASES, UM, OF, OF 10.5% PER YEAR FOR WATER AND 7% PER YEAR FOR WASTEWATER.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND ADOPTING A A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
UM, AND, AND THIS IS FAVORABLE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO THE BOND MARKET, UM, THE, THE CREDITORS, THE, THE BOND, UM, PURCHASERS, IT, IT, IT, IT REDUCES THE RISK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL RISK WHEN THERE IS AN ADOPTED PLAN.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO REVISIT THIS PLAN SHOULD THE, SHOULD THE UTILITY OUTPERFORM THESE PROJECTION PROJECTIONS.
WE THINK THEY'RE CONSERVATIVE.
UM, UM, BUT WE WOULD SEE, WE WOULD RECOMMEND ADOPT, UM, CONSIDERING THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOUR, UH, YOUR QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION.
WELL, YEAH, REAL, REAL QUICK, I GOT A, A COUPLE MAYBE A QUESTION OR TWO REAL QUICK, BUT I NOTICED ON SOME OF, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ADDING IN, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF RIVIERA BEACH, UH, IS THAT REALLY ACCURATE? THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 31.85% AND 32 6 BASICALLY 32% YEAH.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT 120% TECHNICALLY IN FOUR YEARS IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT FORT LAUDERDALE AT, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOUTH FLORIDA, IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S, SOME PEOPLE ARE 50, 50% JUST IN ONE YEAR.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE ACCURATE.
A LOT OF THESE, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WE WORK WITH.
AND I, I THINK A, A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH, AGAIN, ANECDOTALLY, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T PREPARED A RATE STUDY FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE FOLKS MYSELF, BUT A LOT OF THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS, THOSE, THOSE COSTS WERE, WERE ONE THING.
AND THEN BY THE TIME THEY GO OUT TO BID, THEY'RE MUCH HIGHER AND CONSTANTLY REVISING THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, PLANS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN THAT, UH, PLAY OUT ALL OVER THE STATE THAT THAT CAPITAL, UH, REINVE CAPITAL COSTS HAVE JUST GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY AND RIGHT.
SO I DON'T FEEL AS BAD NOW SEEING WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE STATE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF AN EPIDEMIC ALMOST WITH, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF CATCHING UP WITH THE RATES.
UH, THE, UM, ARE WE, ARE WE, I GUESS IT'S MORE, ARE WE, UM, UH, MOVING TOWARDS ADDING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IN UTILIZING THESE RATE INCREASES AS WELL? WE'RE NOT SO MUCH ADDING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
WE'RE HAVING TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY BOTH ON THE WATER PRODUCTION SIDE AND ON THE WATER RECLAMATION SIDE.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NEW REGULATIONS COMING OUT.
ANOTHER FACTOR IS, IS THAT WITH, ON OUR WATER PRODUCTION SIDE, WE'VE DECIDED TO GO OFF OF THE, TO MAKE OUR RELIANCE ON THE LAKE WATER NOT QUITE AS HEAVY AND SWITCH MORE TO THE RO AND CHANGING THAT PERCENTAGE.
SO WHEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE EXPANDING THE RO PLANT, WE ARE EXPANDING IT, BUT THAT'S TO GET THAT BALANCE OF WATER BACK WHERE IT SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THE LAKE WATER IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO TREAT.
SO OVERALL IT SHOULD HELP US ON OUR FEES LATER ON.
AND LIKE, LIKE WAS MENTIONED, SOME OF THESE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, I MEAN, WE ESTIMATED SOMETHING THAT COST WHAT, LIKE $20 MILLION, $25 MILLION AND THE PRICES CAME IN CLOSER TO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
AND SO THAT'S A HUGE IMPACT, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPACTING ALL OF THESE OTHER AGENCIES, ALL THESE OTHER UTILITIES IS
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BETWEEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE REGULATIONS AND THEN THE, THE HUGE PRICE INCREASES FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING THIS IN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.
AND MY, MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT WOULD BE, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT RATE, YOU KNOW, THE CAPACITY ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING 8%, SO WHY WOULD WE HAVE BE ADDING CAPACITY THAT WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, NORMAL QUESTION FOR ME.
UM, BUT THE, UM, WE'VE GOT, YOU'RE PRESENTING 10.5 AND THEN 7% ACROSS THE BOARD FOR FIVE YEARS.
ALL RIGHT? SO I WILL NOT BE HERE, BUT IN 2028, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT TWO, THAT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, UH, PROJECT BECOMES $150 MILLION PROJECT.
NOW, DO WE, NOW, ARE THESE NUMBERS SET IN STONE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? OR THESE ARE JUST LIKE, THIS IS WHERE WE'D LIKE TO BE RIGHT NOW TO GET WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GONNA GET TO IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
WOULD THAT BE A FAIR ASSESSMENT? NO, I THINK THE LATTER IS TRUE.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THE COSTS ARE GONNA BE, RIGHT? SURE.
YOU CAN'T REALLY PREDICT WHAT THE COSTS ARE GONNA BE IN, IN, IN THREE YEARS TO FIVE YEARS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I I THINK CERTAINLY GREATER THAN GREATER THAN FIVE YEARS, IT BECOMES DIFFICULT.
UM, SO NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE GONNA DO, BUT I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE REPRESENTATION.
UM, STAFF PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT, CONSULTING ENGINEERS PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT.
UM, AND THIS, WELL, I, I DON'T DENY THE WORK OR THE HARD WORK OR ANYTHING.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M QUESTIONING.
PLEASE DON'T EVER TAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU KNOW, AS, AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN ME ASKING A QUESTION PERHAPS.
I DON'T ASK IT THE SAME WAY THAT YOUR BOSS MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION.
SO MAYBE IT SOUNDS A LITTLE DIFFERENT TO YOU.
BUT, UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, THESE COSTS CONTINUES TO CLIMB.
UH, AND SO, UM, OUR ARE, I GUESS IT'S GONNA BE ON YOU GUYS' SHOULDERS, WHETHER WHETHER IT'S GONNA GO UP EVEN, EVEN MORE AND MORE AND MORE, UH, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE IT, UH, GOING DOWN ANYWHERE.
SO IS 10 AND A HALF THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR NOW FOR ALL FIVE YEARS? OR SHOULD WE PROJECT OUT 10 AND THEN 11 AND THEN 12, AND THEN 13, THEN 14, THEN 15.
I MEAN, JUST FOR THE RATE OF INFLATION.
I MEAN, I MEAN, YELL TOLD US, UH, TRANSIT TRANSITORY, INFLATION, THAT'S ALL IT IS, RIGHT? SO HELP, YEAH, SURE.
UH, JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON YOUR POINT, MR. LARISSA.
THE, THE, THE IDEA OF DOING A FIVE YEAR, UH, RATE ADOPTION HAS A LOT TO DO MORE WITH THE BOND RATING AGENCIES AND THE SECURITY OF BOND HOLDERS, KNOWING THAT IF WE'RE GONNA GO OUT TO, YOU KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN DIFFERENT ISSUANCES, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH WIA OR A, A REGULAR REVENUE BOND, IF THEY DON'T SEE THAT COUNCIL'S COMMITTED TO THIS PLAN OF ACTION TO SUPPORT THE REVENUE REQUIREMENTS, WE MAY NOT ACTUALLY GET AS FAVORABLE BORROWING TERMS. OH, I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS FOR US.
WE, WE, WE GOTTA SHOW THE REVENUE IN ORDER TO GET THE MONEY.
IT'S LIKE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BUY A CAR, I GOTTA PROVE WHAT I'M MAKING, YOU KNOW, SO MM-HMM
JUST, I BELIEVE, AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE VERIFICATION, UM, THESE, THAT, THAT 10.5% INCREASE ON THE WATER WEIGHT RATE, UH, AND ALL OF THE EVALUATIONS WE INCLUDED WHAT WE THINK THE INFLATION RATES WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT USING THE OH PROJECT WILL COST 20 MILLION TODAY.
WE CALCULATE OUT WHAT WE THINK THAT WILL COST FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
SO WE, WE HAVE TRIED TO FACTOR IN, NOW IF WE HAVE CRAZY CONSTRUCTION COST INCREASES, LIKE WE'VE, WE DID, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT GONNA ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THAT.
WE'RE, WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL THAT IT, IT'S HOPEFULLY IT WHERE IT'S GONNA STAY IF I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO GO DOWN.
THIS, THIS IS VERY MUCH PLANNED FOR THE WORST HOPE FOR THE BEST.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF AS, AS TREVOR'S MADE A COUPLE COMMENTS, WE, WE DID APPROACH THIS WITH A CONSERVATIVE BENT TO IT.
UM, I DID PUSH ON A NUMBER OF THE IMPACT FEES AND THE INTEREST AND, AND WHERE I COULD, WHERE I FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE.
UH, BUT JUST LIKE WE DID IN 2023, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO A RATE STUDY DURING THIS TIME PERIOD TO REAFFIRM OR READJUST SOME OF THESE RATES.
IT'S MORE OF A LET'S SHOW THE BOND HOLDERS THAT JUST AS WE DISCUSSED, THERE'S THE, THE WILLINGNESS TO DO THOSE RATES.
UH, AND IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS, UH, SOME POSITIVE PERFORMANCE AGAINST THIS STUDY, WILL WILL ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
UH, MS. LEY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING, MA'AM? I, I JUST, WELL, IT ALWAYS LOOKS LIKE HERE, SOME OF THESE WHERE THE RATES INCREASES IN THE OTHER CITIES ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN, OH, THE RATE INCREASES ARE, ARE LONGER, LARGER, OLDER CITIES.
LIKE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BILL LABELLE RIVIERA AND ALL THAT, NOW WE, WHEN WE ADOPT THIS, WE HAVE TO ADOPT IT FOR THE FIVE YEARS.
WE CAN'T JUST ADOPT FOR THIS YEAR.
AND COME BACK WITHIN A YEAR AND DO THAT AGAIN BY ORDINANCE.
UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S RECOMMENDED, AT LEAST FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR, UH, FUTURE DEBT IS TO ADOPT FIVE YEARS, WHICH I'LL COME BACK ON YOUR SEPTEMBER 11TH, UH, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO PROVIDE
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TO COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THOSE CODE CHANGES NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THOSE, UH, INCREASES.I JUST WISH THAT WE HADN'T IN THE, IN THE PAST YEARS THAT WE, WE HAD THE INCREASES THAT, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THESE MAY, LIKE EVEN ONE OR 2% WOULD'VE HELPED US OUT BETTER THAN THE BIG ONES THAN THIS.
MAYOR, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S A HINDSIGHT, THAT'S A BIG LEARNING.
THAT'S A BIG LEARNING CURVE THERE.
AND WE HAVE NO CHOICE TO PAY FOR THE PAY FOR IT, AND WE'VE GOT TO DO THE BONDS.
AND IF WE WANNA KEEP CLEAN WATER, WE DON'T WANNA BE MISSISSIPPI, IT'S A JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI, OR FLINT, MICHIGAN WITH THEIR WATER PROBLEMS. SO I, I MEAN, THIS IS THE BEST WE HAVE OF THE KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE TODAY.
I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS.
'CAUSE ALL OF US HAVE TO PAY THE BILL.
WE DON'T, I MEAN, I, I DON'T REALLY WANNA GO FOR INCREASES, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE AT THE MATTER.
WE DON'T WANNA GAMBLE WITH WATER.
MR. UH, MR. YEAH, MAYOR, UH, FIRST OFF, UH, THANKS.
I'M LOOKING AT THE SLIDES AND THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE 10.5%, BUT I, BUT THANK YOU FOR TRANSLATING THAT TO WHAT THE ACTUAL BILL AMOUNT WOULD BE.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT ADDS SOME, UH, CLARITY.
AND THEN ON THAT, THE SECOND PRESENTATION WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT WHERE THE 87.42 WOULD ACTUALLY STILL SORT OF HAVE US IN LINE WITH THE OTHER, UH, UH, LOCAL CITIES IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND, UH, I, I, I DEFINITELY, UH, APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SEE IT THAT WAY AS OPPOSED TO JUST SEEING A PERCENTAGE.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES PERCENTAGES CAN FEEL A LITTLE SKEWED.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUT THEN TO ACTUALLY SEE THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND HOW IT COMPARE, UH, REALLY, REALLY HELPS OUT.
UH, MY, MY QUESTION THAT I HAVE RELATED TO THAT IS YOU SAY PLAN FOR THE WORST, HOPE FOR THE BEST.
JUST, JUST SO THAT I COULD HEAR FROM MY OWN EDIFICATION, WHAT WOULD BE SOME THINGS THAT COULD EITHER OFFSET OR MAKE THIS, UH, BETTER, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
UM, ROSS, SINCE YOU KIND OF MADE THAT STATEMENT.
SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY SOME THINGS THAT WOULD BE POSITIVE.
UH, I THINK EVEN WHEN GOVERNOR DESANTIS HAD STOPPED BY RECENTLY, THERE WAS THE ADDITIONAL GRANT AWARD THAT HE ALLOWED FOR, UH, FOR THE WATER RECLAMATION PROJECTS THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY PUT BEFORE THE STATE.
UH, THAT OBVIOUSLY HELPS BECAUSE THAT'S MONEY THAT'S NOT COMING FROM OUR RATE PAYERS DIRECTLY.
UH, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT, UH, SOME APPROPRIATIONS, FORGIVE, FORGIVE OF APPROPRIATIONS TOO.
UH, LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS, BASICALLY ANY STATE FUNDING THAT THEY WOULD WISH TO ASSIST US ON ANY OF OUR CAPITAL PLANS IS ALWAYS HELPFUL.
UH, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, OPPORTUNITIES WITH DEBT, IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO SECURE SOME EFFORT, SRF FUNDING, THAT'S STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUND, WE DO ACTIVELY APPROACH THEM, UH, AS FREQUENTLY AS WE CAN.
UH, THEY ARE LIMITED IN WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO AWARD AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THEY'VE NOT BEEN, UH, AS WILLING TO FUND THAT PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD.
UM, BUT WE DO TRY TO LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THERE MIGHT BE ADVANTAGEOUS BORROWING OR, UH, GRANT LIKE ABILITY, LIKE AWARDS THAT WE CAN KIND OF MITIGATE SOME OF THIS IF WE CAN.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION AND BREAKDOWN AND I WOULD SUGGEST ALL COUNSEL WHEN THEY SEE THEIR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION TO PUSH WATER QUALITY PROJECTS AND, UH, FUNDING.
AND JUST FOR MY OWN CLARIFICATION FROM COUNCIL, UH, JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS TO PREPARE THE ORDINANCE RIGHT, FOR THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, UH, AT THIS TIME.
YES, YOU HAVE A UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS.
AND THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 17, SINCE JOAN IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.
REBECCA T BEAR WILL BE PRESENTING REBECCA'S HERE TONIGHT, FILLING IN FOR JOAN.
I CAN ASK THIS BE HOLD ON, MA'AM.
UM, 'CAUSE I'M ON THE, YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE.
I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ONE BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS DOING THEIR, WE GOING OUT FOR BIDS AND PROJECTS AND ALL THAT.
SO MAYBE WE CAN PIGGYBACK WITH THEM USING OUR MONEY TO PIGGYBACK ON WITH THEM.
CAN WE JUST, SINCE WE'VE HOLD OFF SINCE WE, SO TO, OKAY.
SO TO EXPLAIN WHAT MS. HANLEY'S MENTIONING.
SO MS. HANLEY AND I BOTH SERVE ON THE BREVARD COUNTY'S TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE COMMITTEE THAT OVERSEES THE REGIONAL COUNTY, UM, OPIOID ABATEMENT FUNDS.
SO THE COUNTY ISSUED AN RFP LAST THURSDAY.
IT HIT THE STREET FOR THEIR FUNDS.
THEY HAVE THREE CORE STRATEGIES THAT THEY'VE PUT OUT IN THEIR RFP, WHICH IS FOR SUPPORTING PEOPLE IN TREATMENT AND RECOVERY, ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE, UM, PERSONS OR PEOPLE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND THEN PREVENTION OF OPIOID MISUSE.
UM, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A FOURTH RFP OUT, WHICH IS FOR ANYTHING THAT IS IN THE STATE APPROVED ABATEMENT PLAN.
SO ANY AGENT KEY AGENCY CAN SUBMIT A PROPOSAL FOR ANYTHING
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FOR REGIONAL COUNTY ABATEMENT FUNDS.UM, I WILL SAY THAT HAVING SERVED ON THAT COMMITTEE FOR SOME TIME NOW, IT'S BEEN A VERY SLOW MOVING PROCESS.
UM, SO UP TO COUNCIL, WHICHEVER DIRECTION THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO GO TONIGHT OR IN THE FUTURE.
BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE A LOT MORE MONEY THAN US.
UM, SO I, NOT TO GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE HAVE ABOUT $370,000 THAT IS AVAILABLE.
THE COUNTY CURRENTLY IS AT THREE 13 MILLION THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR FUND, PLUS THEIR YEAR FOUR FUNDS THAT THEY HAVEN'T ALLOCATED YET.
SO, UM, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MORE MONEY THAN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALLOCATING FUNDING FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
JUST, I, I HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, MS. HAYLEY? GOOD.
I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE, LET'S SEE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS AND MAYBE THERE'S CERTAIN FUNDING THAT WE CAN GO WITH AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE FIRST AND THEN SUPPLEMENT WHERE WE THINK IT, IT NEEDS TO GO IN THERE.
NO, I WAS GONNA, I WAS GONNA ASK THAT TOO, MAYOR, IS THAT, IS SHE THINKING THAT WE CAN REQUEST FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY TO SUPPLEMENT? NO, NO.
PIGGYBACK TO WHAT THEY'RE USING NERVES FOR.
AND MAYBE, MAYBE A BIT, YOU KNOW, PIGGYBACK WITH THEM.
'CAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD AND I DON'T WANNA SAY I'M HOPE, I'M HOPING THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WILL HAPPEN AND THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US, GIVE IT A LITTLE TIME YET SINCE WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN ON THE, WHAT'S THE COUNTY SUSPENSE STATE OR THE DEADLINE FOR THEIR SUBMISSIONS UNTIL THEY EXPEND THE FUNDS.
I THINK IT'S UNTIL 2036 THAT THEY'RE GONNA RECEIVE THE FUNDS.
NOW I, NOW I WILL SAY, UM, HAVING PARTICIPATED IN THEIR LAST RFP COMMITTEE, THEY DID NOT RECEIVE A LOT OF RESPONSES ON THEIR FIRST ROUND OF RFPS.
UM, SO I WOULD GIVE SOME HESITANCE.
I WILL SAY THERE WAS A DIFFERENT PERSON AHEAD OF THE COMMITTEE AND IT HAS CHANGED.
THERE'S BEEN SOME TRANSITION CHANGES, JUST CHANGES BECAUSE OF REBECCA.
I, I THINK REBECCA HAS A REAL PUSH TOWARDS THINGS.
UM, THEY WOULD HAD, THEY WERE OUT THERE MARKETING FOR A PLAN, BUT, YOU KNOW, SAYING WE HAVE OPIOID MONEY, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLAN TO DO WITH THE OPIOID.
THEY'VE, THEY'VE AWARDED APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION FOR A MARKETING CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS WHAT THEY LAUNCHED LAST THURSDAY.
THAT WAS THE GIFT BAGS THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED UP AT THE DIAS NIGHT THAT CAME FROM THE COUNTY.
UM, AND THEN THEY'VE SPENT SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR MEDIC MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT.
BUT FOR INSTANCE, THEY HAD A THIRD RFP OUT DURING THAT FIRST YEAR THAT WAS FOR WARM HANDOFF SERVICES TO ASSIST FOLKS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF RECOVERY BUT NEED THAT WARM HANDOFF TO KIND OF GET BACK INTO SOCIETY.
THEY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES TO THAT RFP.
UM, NOW I, I THINK STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE CITY MANAGER, BUT I THINK STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE CITY FUNDING BECAUSE AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER HOW THAT FUNDING IS GONNA BE ALLOCATED.
UM, BEING PART OF THAT COUNTY PROGRAM, WE ARE AT THE MERCY OF THE COUNTY AND WHAT THE REST OF THAT COMMITTEE DECIDES, AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION DECIDES.
SO IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL.
BUT I THINK YOU GUYS DO HAVE CONTROL OF THIS $370,000.
UM, AND IF YOU DON'T WANNA WAIT FOR THEM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IT, IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOUR PURPOSE TO, WAIT, HOLD ON, MS. LAMB, YOU HAD SOMETHING.
I KNOW YOU, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I, I DON'T, IF COUNSEL DECIDES THAT THEY WANNA WAIT TO SEE IF WE CAN PIGGYBACK SOMETHING THAT'S DONE WITH THE COUNTY STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO WITH, UM, A HYBRID APPROACH AND WE DO SOME ALLOCATION FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE FOR THE PURPOSE OF OPIOID ABATEMENT STRATEGIES THAT, THAT MEET THE STATE CRITERIA, BUT THAT WE COULD USE INTERNALLY FOR BOTH OUR POLICE, FIRE AND EVEN HR FOR, FOR EMPLOYEES AND SO FORTH.
POLICE AND FIRE WOULD BE EXTERNAL TOO.
AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE DON'T CUT THAT OFF COMPLETELY AND SAY DON'T DO ANYTHING.
NO, I'M NOT SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PART.
AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON ACTUALLY BOTH SIDES, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND TIME AND THE AGENDA ON THIS, I DO THINK THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY GET MORE OPTIONS, BUT OPTION THREE HAS STAFF BRINGING OPTIONS BACK TO US ANYWAY.
SO IF WE VOTED ON OPTION THREE, WE COULD SEE WHAT THE COUNTY'S OPTIONS ARE AND WE COULD SEE WHAT WELL, WE CAN USE FOR OUR STAFF.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT OUR STAFF, MA'AM, I, WE, I DON'T WANT US TO USE LOSE MONEY FOR OUR STAFF AND IT COULD BE GOBBLED UP IN THE COUNTY.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD SEE ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, WHICH WOULD BE OPTION THREE IN MY OPINION.
YOU, YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN, YEAH.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA LOSE ANY OF YOUR CITY MONEY THOUGH, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE.
SO I THINK WHAT THE CITY MANAGER IS SUGGESTING IS TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
LAW ENFORCEMENT OR FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE AND TRAINING FOR INTERNAL STAFF.
WE COULD HOLD OFF ON PUTTING OUT A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS IF WE WANNA HOLD OFF ON THAT PART
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UNTIL THE COUNTY DOES THEIR RFP.BUT YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
THEN WHAT? YEAH, I LIKE THAT IDEA.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION THREE IS, IS THE COUNTY GONNA SHARE THEIR MONEY WITH US? NO.
WE, WE DON'T THAT THEY DO THEY WAIT A MINUTE.
NO, NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY, WHAT I'M NOT SAYING IS SHARING.
IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. IT'S HARD TO, 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO AND SAY, AND IT DOESN'T COME THROUGH.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT, THERE'S DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN, UM, IN SEMINOLE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE DONE SOME VERY, UM, GREAT THINGS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY IN SEMINOLE COUNTY.
THEY'RE NOW IN OSCEOLA COUNTY, THEY'RE COMING INTO BREVARD COUNTY AND THEY HAVE, THEY'RE REALLY WELL ORGANIZED.
RIGHT? WE ARE WAY BEHIND, WE ARE TWO YEARS BEHIND.
RIGHT? 2, 2, 2 AND A YEARS AND A YEARS BEHIND ON WHAT THEY HAVE, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY HAVE DONE WRAPPED AROUND SERVICES.
THEY REALLY STAY WITH SOMEBODY IF YOU'RE IN THEIR PROGRAM, THEY REALLY STAY WITH THAT PERSON.
THEY, UM, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS ONE THING IS, UM, THEY MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE GET TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS IF THEY'RE IN THE PROGRAMS. RIGHT.
UM, LIKE UBER RATHER HAVE, BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAYS, DO THEY HAVE A BUS TO TAKE PEOPLE TO THEIR, TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS? AND THEY SAID NO, BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO MUCH MONEY TO RUN A BUS.
SO I, THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF ASKING IF WE CAN JUST DO A P NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT, BUT JUST DO A PAUSE FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE SO THAT MAYBE WE CAN WORK WITH THEM.
WE CAN DO A SMALLER THING WITH HERE IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
WELL, I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION RIGHT NOW.
REAL QUICK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND YOU MADE THE MOTION REAL QUICK, CORRECT.
TO APPROVE, UM, OPTION THREE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BRING BACK THINGS TO US, INCLUDING IF THERE'S A COUNTY, UM, OPTION THERE.
SO IT, IT INCORPORATES EVERYTHING.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ON A VOTE FOR THAT.
DO WE HAVE A NAY? NAY? WE HAVE NAY.
SO WE HAVE UH, UH, 6 6, 6 AYES.
NAY FOR OPTION THREE, CORRECT.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE MOTION.
UM, I, I JUST ASKED TO JUST HAVE IT POSTPONED.
WELL, BUT, BUT I NEED A YAY OR NAY ON THIS.
I'M GONNA MOVE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE.
CAN CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING, UM, JUST IN THE CONVERSATION, UH, WE CAN APPLY FOR SOME OF THOSE RFP GRANT FUNDS, COUNTY FUNDS COUNTY, RIGHT? YES.
SO I THINK, UM, YES, WE'RE SPENDING OUR 370 WHATEVER DOLLARS.
HOWEVER, I DON'T WANNA LOSE THE FACT THAT WE CAN GET THAT THREE 70 PLUS WE CAN TAP INTO THE COUNTY FUNDS.
AND LET'S MOVE TOWARDS APPLYING FOR SOME OF THESE FUNDS.
THE, THE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY PUT IN AN A RFP RESPONSE TO THAT.
IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD A PROGRAM THAT THEY WANTED TO SUBMIT, THEY COULD APPLY FOR THAT.
UM, AND TO MR. LARUSSO POINT, THOSE REGIONAL FUNDS, THEY ARE BENEFITING CITIZENS OF MELBOURNE.
LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT PROGRAM THAT THE COUNTY IS FUNDING THAT'S DONE THROUGH CIRCLES OF CARE AND THEIR LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY.
SO THEY ARE UTILIZING THOSE FUNDS IN MELBOURNE.
UM, IT'S JUST THEY'RE BENEFITING THE WHOLE COUNTY AT THE SAME TIME.
ALSO AS TO PIGGYBACK ON THIS, IS THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE SAME ROAD THAT WE DID WITH PROVIDENCE PLACE AND WE GAVE $3 MILLION.
AND NOW HERE WE HAVE DELRAY BEACH PEOPLE AND, AND RIVIERA BEACH PEOPLE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO WHAT MY GOAL WAS TO KEEP THIS MONEY IN OUR CITY.
IT GOES DIRECTLY TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND TO OUR, UH, FIRST FOR ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE, ARE FRONT LINES ON THIS.
WHO CAN USE THIS STUFF, WHO CAN USE THIS TRAINING? WHO, WHO CAN USE THIS BACKUP FOR, FOR WHO EXPERIENCED SECONDARY TRAUMA OUT OF ALL OF THIS OPERATING THINGS AND IT DOESN'T GO ANY PLACE ELSE.
SO THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY CONCERN.
NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
I'M NOT SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 18.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE DONE WITH THAT ITEM.
WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM 18 REPORTING ON THIS.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIMI HANLEY HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN ATTENDING THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE IN ROCKLEDGE, FLORIDA ON OCTOBER 29TH AND
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30TH.AND CONCURRENT WITH COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 36 AS OUTLINED IN YOUR AGENDA, PACKAGE, COUNSEL APPROVAL IS REQUIRED FOR THIS EXPENDITURE.
AND IF YOU WERE TO MAKE THAT AUTHORIZATION FOR HER OR, AND, AND OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TO ATTEND, UH, COUNSEL WOULD NEED TO MAKE A FINDING THAT THE TRAVEL SERVES A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE AS DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE.
UH, THE COST PER ATTENDEE IS $275 AND THE REQUESTED ACTION WOULD BE FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AND ANY OTHER INTERESTED COUNCIL MEMBER TO ATTEND THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE, ALONG WITH A FINDING THAT THE TRAVEL SERVES A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE AS DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA REPORT.
UH, REAL QUICK A QUESTION, KEVIN, DO ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO GIVE THEIR NAME NOW OR IS IT JUST, UH, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME IF, IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THAT APPROVAL TO GO? YES.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANNA GO? BESIDES MS. HANLEY? I WANT ATTEND, SO, OKAY.
SO RIGHT NOW WE, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AND SMITH.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS? UH, OKAY.
I'M, I'M JUST NOT CERTAIN THAT IT PROVIDES A, A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE.
THIS WE'VE DID NOT SUPPORTED, UM, THINGS FOR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE PAST.
THIS PARTICULAR ONE, IT'S TO GET TOOLS TO MEET POLLUTION, LOAD REDUCTIONS, RECHARGE GROUNDWATER, AQUI FIRES, AND PREVENT FLOODING.
NOW THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF STUFF.
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER GOING TO THIS.
THIS SEEMS MORE LIKE A STAFF RELATED THING.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE, IT'S NOT AN EXPENSIVE TRIP LIKE, UH, GOING TO TALLAHASSEE OR GOING TO LEAGUE OF CITIES WHERE IT COSTS OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PERSON.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD TAKE UPON THEMSELVES.
AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE OUR MEMBERS TO VOTE AGAINST THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT SERVES A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
WELL, BECAUSE WE, OH, HOLD ON MA'AM.
SO THE COST FOR THIS, FOR EACH MEMBER'S, UH, EARLY BIRD 2 75? YES, SIR.
UH, MS. HANLEY, YOU GOT SOMETHING.
THINGS I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT GOING TO THESE THINGS.
IT IS BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE GOT THE TREE ORDINANCES CHANGED.
WE NEED TO LEARNING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, HOW TO DO THE, WITH BRINGING IT FORWARD EVEN TO THE STAFF, WHAT WE WERE CHARGING FOR TREES AND ALL THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
UM, WELL THERE, UH, MA'AM, I WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
I MEAN, I, I SEE IN HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, THE SCHEDULE IS ON HERE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING OR WHAT PEOPLE'S DOING AT MRC.
I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF THE MRC.
I THINK THEY DO A AMAZING JOB, AND I'VE BEEN OVER THERE.
UM, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS FOR AUTHORIZATION? I, I AUTHOR, UM, WHAT DO YOU SAY? WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD? I WANNA USE PROPOSAL.
CAN WE DO WHAT'S THE RIGHT AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNCIL? REQUESTED ACTION AUTHORIZATION REQUESTED REQUESTED, UM, AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR AND MARCUS SMITH TO ATTEND THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL, LOPAC LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 29TH AND 30TH, ALONG WITH THE FINDINGS AND TRAVEL SERVICES OF VALID PUBLIC PER PUBLIC, PER PUBLIC PURPOSE, PURPOSE AS DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA REPORT.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND, UH, FOR THIS.
SO ALL THE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SO WE HAVE, UH, SIX AYES IN ONE NAY.
SO, AND THE HAPPY HOUR SHOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE IT'S BEING SPONSORED BY, UH, NEUTRAL.
WELL, THE GOOD, WELL, THE GOOD THING TOO, THIS IS LOCAL TOO.
SO THERE'S NO HOTEL OR NOTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S A POSITIVE.
SO THE MORE YOU KNOW, THE BETTER YOU CAN DO YOUR JOB.
WE PAYING FOR HAPPY HOURS AND YOU CAN PAY FOR YOURSELF NUTRIENTS IN, WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON.
WE HAVE PETITION TO VERMONT COMMUNICATION.
IF THERE, AND WE'LL START OUT REAL QUICK.
I ATTENDED THE, UH, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITY'S, UH, ANNUAL CONFERENCE, UH, INCLUDING THE, THE ETHICS, UH, REALLY GREAT, REALLY GREAT EVENT.
UH, LEARNED A LOT, UH, NETWORKING WITH OTHER CITY, UH, UH, LEADERS, COUNCIL, MAYORS, UH, CITY MANAGERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.
UM, MR. LARUSSO NELSON FOR TONIGHT.
MS. BASSETT, UH, I, ON THE 14TH I ATTENDED, UM, IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION EVENT.
UM, HE HERE IN MELBOURNE, UH, IT WAS REALLY, UH, NICE TO SEE OUR CITIZENS EMBRACING AND GIVING A KUDOS TO, UH, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, ALL THE LOCAL AGENCIES.
UH, 'CAUSE THE TEMPERATURE AGAINST THE POLICE IS STILL KIND OF IN THE COUNTRY, IS STILL A LITTLE TESTY.
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SEE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, HERE THAT WE ARE STILL VERY MUCH IN THEIR CORNER AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO.I ATTENDED THE, UM, LEAGUE OF CITIES AND I WENT TO THE, UH, CERTAIN ONES I, I THOUGHT WERE MORE AFTER THE HEADLIGHTS RECOVERY AND ALL THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ONE GENTLEMAN FROM D HARRY FLORIDA SAID, UM, ABOUT TESTING OUR GENERATORS, HE SAYS, DON'T JUST TEST THEM FOR 15 MINUTES.
TEST THEM FOR HOURS BEFORE, BEFORE, BEFORE THE STORMS. THAT'S A LONG TEST BECAUSE IT GOES 15 MINUTES AND A LOT OF 'EM DIED AFTER THAT.
UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, HE WAS THE MAYOR FROM TREASURE ISLAND.
HE'S BEEN THE MAYOR FOR 18 MONTHS BECAUSE THEIR CITY WAS DEVASTATED IN THESE, THE LAST STORMS, OR I THINK IT'S MORE THAN A YEAR NOW, SAW HIM, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH FOUR CITY MANAGERS IN THAT TIME PERIOD.
THEY HAD AT ONE POINT HE GOING THROUGH THIS, IT WAS, YEAH, WE ALL SAID THAT.
FOUR CITY MANAGERS, EVERYBODY KIND OF WENT, HUH? UM, THE ONLY PERSON BECAUSE THEY HAD SO MUCH DAMAGE.
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAS STAYED WITH THE CITY WAS THE, UM, POLICE, POLICE CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF, AND HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS.
EVERYTHING ELSE, ALL THE OTHER DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN, HAVE JUST ROTATED OUT.
BUT THEY DID HAVE, AS HE SAID, PERMITS ON THIS.
THEY HAD SOME WEEKS THAT THEY HAD A THOUSAND PERMITS A WEEK, AND THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T KEEP UP.
AND THEY HAD, POLICE HAD TO HAVE POLICE PRESENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE JUST LOSING THEIR MINDS OVER THAT.
UM, BUT ANOTHER ONE GENTLEMAN, THEN I WENT TO THE DOGE ONE.
UM, THAT WAS NOT REALLY WHAT, I MEAN, THE GENTLEMAN WHO GAVE, HE'S THE HEAD OF DOGE, HE'S NOT, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME.
UM, HE JUST, HE DID TELL US THAT HE GRADUATED FROM HARVARD LAW SCHOOL.
HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SAY OSCEOLA COUNTY.
HE CALLS OI, HE ONLY HAS BEEN HERE FIVE MONTHS.
UM, HE SPOKE, UM, BUT NEVER ALLOWED ANYBODY.
HE SPOKE SO THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE DID NOT GET A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING.
YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.
AND IF YOU'VE DONE WITH OUR CITY, CITY HAS TO DO THE AUDITS, HAS TO PUT PLANS IN.
THEY ALREADY HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? AND ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME DURING BUDGETS SEASON WHERE STAFF IS ALREADY, THE FINANCIAL PEOPLE ARE ALREADY UNDER, UNDER HIGH.
FEMA WAS BROUGHT UP AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER FEMA'S GONNA BE HERE OR NOT.
FEMA'S STAYING BECAUSE THE REASON BEING IS THAT THE WAY IT'S SET UP, FEMA IS NOT GOING AWAY, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, UNLESS THEY CHANGE EVERYTHING.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY STATES, THE WAY IT'S SET UP.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY STATES CAN GET MONEY.
SO THAT FEMA IS, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FEARFUL THAT FEMA IS GOING AWAY.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THERE WAS TALK ABOUT FIREMEN AND THERE'S TALK ABOUT, UM, THE STATE TAKING OVER ALL FIRE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE YEAH.
BECAUSE WE'RE FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER OVER THE SAME PEOPLE.
BUT WE'RE DOING THAT WITH POLICE TOO.
SO TO BETWEEN CITIES, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.
AND THE MORE THE CITIES EDUCATION, PARDON ME? WE'RE DOING THAT IN EDUCATION.
WE'RE DOING THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT DOING THAT.
BUT THAT'S, BUT THEY, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THEY'RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT MIGHT EVEN GO INTO POLICE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING AFTER THE SAME PEOPLE AND THE CITIES CAN'T KEEP UP THE PACE.
I MEAN, INFLATION'S GOING UP A CERTAIN RATE.
THEY'RE GOING UP ALMOST DOUBLE.
SO WE CAN'T KEEP, IS THERE A WAY TO FIGHT THAT? RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE DOING, IF THE STATE MIGHT COME OVER AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, I, THERE WAS A JOHN ME COMB WAS A SPEAKER.
HE SPOKE ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT HE WAS THE BIOGRAPHER FROM HIM.
HE WAS THEIR AUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHER, BUT HE COULD NOT SELL THE BOOK UNTIL AFTER HE DIED.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW.
BUT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO HEAR HIM.
YOU COULD HEAR, GO FOR ANOTHER HOUR, YOU KNOW, SOME SPEAKERS YOU CAN GO.
UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I GOT FROM THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.
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BUT THE FEMA WAS THE BIG ONE.THERE WAS SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING ASK THEM TO COME IN AND DO THEIR AUDITS.
AND I'M LIKE, WHY? BUT THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE.
MS. HANLEY, UH, GOING THROUGH FOUR CITY MANAGERS, I THINK A CITY REP SOUTH OF US HAS DONE THAT, SO THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
UH, AND THEN NUMBER TWO, UH, I SPOKE WITH ROSS AND WE HAD ALL OUR INFORMATION.
I SUBMITTED THAT, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION.
THEY DON ALREADY HAVE, HAVE INFORMATION.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW WE'RE ALREADY ON TOP OF THAT.
I'VE TALKED TO IT, IT, IT, IT'S DUPLICATING INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN WE WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL, THANK YOU ROSS.
YEAH, IT'S BUSY WORK BECAUSE THEY GAVE US A DEADLINE AND WE ALREADY SUBMITTED.
BUT THERE'S GONNA BE MORE AND MORE.
THERE'S CERTAIN CITIES GONNA BE MORE AND MORE.
UH, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I REALLY TOOK OUTTA THAT OTHER THAN, UM, WHAT MARCUS HAD SAID ABOUT THE NETWORKING PIECE AND, AND WHATEVER.
HOWEVER, UM, TWO OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO WAS, UM, ONE ON HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND I KNOW THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART, MAYOR.
UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT, UH, DID CASE MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITIES.
UM, AND I PLAN ON GETTING WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO DIVE INTO THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'RE OUR EMPLOYEES ADVOCATE FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING IT WITH OUR, UM, HUMAN RESOURCES.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STATE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE HEALTH INSURANCE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO, UM, TO SEE.
SO WHEN WE HAVE OUR ONE-ON-ONES, WE'LL YEAH, PLEASE, UM, DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT.
SO JUST, WE'VE GOTTA CHANGE WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
WE ABSOLUTELY KEEP GOING THE WAY WE GOING.
UM, AND THE OTHER INTERESTING ONE, UM, AND I SEE IT AS I GO INTO DIFFERENT CITIES, I'M STARTING TO SEE IT A LITTLE BIT NOW, IS WITH THE MOTORIZED BIKES, UM, AND BEING ON THE SIDEWALK AND ALMOST HITTING PEOPLE AS THEY'RE GOING.
UM, THEY HAD A PANEL THERE, WHICH WAS VERY INTERESTING AND ONE FROM A LITTLE BIT MORE CONGESTED AREAS.
UM, LIKE, UH, U OF F WAS THERE, UM, THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS THERE AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY, UM, HIRE THIRD PARTY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE E-BIKES THAT YOU CAN RENT, YOU KNOW, AND GO.
UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW ALL THE E-BIKES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THEY ARE CLASSIFIED WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS REGULAR BICYCLES.
SO THEY'RE NOT ADHERING TO ANY KIND OF RULES.
SO THEY DEVELOP RULES FOR THEM AS OPPO LIKE, UM, SPEED LIMITS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SOME OF THE THIRD PARTY VENDORS HAD GEOTAGS ON THEM TO WHERE THEY'D MANDATE THEM COME DOWN IN SPEED IN CERTAIN AREAS AND STUFF.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
SO I THOUGHT THAT IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT THE IMPACT, THEIR IMPACT IS ON US RIGHT NOW AND, UM, LOOK INTO THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEY HAVE THOSE IN NEW YORK CITY, RIGHT? WHAT? THE BIKES E BIKE.
I HEARD THEY'RE GONNA BE FREE.
BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY TO DRIVE YOUR CAR.
I DON'T THINK SO, BUT, BUT UM, BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY TO DRIVE YOUR CAR TO YOUR PIECE CAN ACTUALLY, JENNY AND I ARE ALREADY WORKING.
THERE'S A RESIDENT THAT'S BROUGHT THAT UP AND WE'RE FINDING SOME SOLUTIONS ON THAT AS WELL.
SO GLAD YOU'RE INTERESTED IN IT.
IT, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET SOME GOOD RESULTS OUT IT THAT'S DOING GREAT ON IT.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAVE IS I DID SEE, UH, COME ACROSS, UH, MY DESK AT THE BREVARD DELEGATIONS.
I SAID APRIL, UM, SEPTEMBER 30TH.
UM, AND DEBBIE MAYFIELD, UM, IS HEADING THAT.
UM, SOMETHING TO PUT ON OUR RADAR.
BY EXPLAIN AGAIN, UH, WENT TO LEAGUE OF CITIES NEW LIFE MISSION, A FEW OTHERS, BUT NOTHING TO REPORT.
REAL QUICK, THERE WAS ONE THING THAT I MISSED THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT AHEAD, IS THAT ON JUNE ON THE SIXTH OF, UH, SEPTEMBER IS OUR FIRST HONOR FLIGHT, UH, GOING OUT.
I'LL BE THERE AT FOUR 30, AT FOUR O'CLOCK AT VICE AS THE VICE CHAIRMAN.
CHAIRMAN CAN'T MAKE IT AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, I'LL BE BACK THERE WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN.
SO IT'S GONNA BE, SO I, I INVITE YOU ALL, I'LL BE THERE.
THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS INVITED.
WE'RE EXPECTING RIGHT NOW ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE, MR. WHEN THEY COME BACK, MR. EIGHT 30 ON SATURDAY.
I THOUGHT I JUST SAW SOMETHING THAT WAS EIGHT 30.
ISN'T THAT EIGHT 30 ON SATURDAY PM NO, I THINK THEY ASSEMBLE AT EIGHT 30, BUT THEY ARRIVE AT, THEY ASSEMBLE AT EIGHT.
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO, LIKE THEY SAID, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE THERE.
NOW, IF YOU HAVE A BADGE LIKE I DO, YOU CAN GET THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MINUTE BEFORE
NO, BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT AS MANY OF US CAN GO, CAN GO.
AND YOU GOT SOMETHING? YEAH, ALIBI, UH, THAT Y'ALL HAVE A FLYER FOR THE ASSET MAPPING.
IS, UH, THEY'RE KICKING OFF THAT EVENT.
THEY CAME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WITH A COUPLE COUNCIL SESSIONS AND NOW THEY'RE KICKING OFF THE ASSET MAPPING THIS FRIDAY MORNING AT WINGS OF GRACE.
AND, UH, AND THERE'S ALSO A-H-B-C-A EVENT AT WINGS OF GRACE TOMORROW ALSO.
SO WINGS OF GRACE IS DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.
MS LA, YOU HAD SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY SPOKE ABOUT.
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WE ARE, UM, TRYING, WE GOT, WE SAW THAT THE DELEGATION MEETING WAS THE END OF SEPTEMBER, SO WE ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO GET THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES ON THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING.SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION THEN ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES IS TALKING ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES, BUT WE WANTED TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE THE DELEGATION MEETING.
I WILL BRING IT UP AT OUR NEXT SPACE, COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING AND TALK TO THE BOARD AS WELL TO GET THAT EXPEDITED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT TOGETHER.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? GO AHEAD.
ONE THING VERY QUICKLY, AND I APOLOGIZE, WE, WE MOVED ON FROM PUBLIC COMMENT FAIRLY QUICKLY.
I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, MY OFFICE AND STAFF HAVE TAKEN COUNCIL'S JULY 22ND, UH, UM, DIRECTION ON LARGE GROUP FEEDINGS.
WE'VE HAD A, WE'VE HAD A MEETING ABOUT IT.
WE'RE ACTIVELY RESEARCHING IT.
I'M HOPING TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM IN THE SECOND, UM, SEPTEMBER MEETING.
SO AGAIN, BUT THAT, THAT IS ACTIVELY MOVING FORWARD.
NOT, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S RIGHT.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, NOTHING ELSE, I'M GONNA, UH, END THE MEETING.
HEY JULIE, I'M GONNA DONATE TO THIS, THIS, UH, NARCAN CAM AND EVERYTHING TO MY, UH, MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S SCHOOL, SO ME TOO.
YOU GONNA GET WE DONATING THESE? WELL, I'M GONNA BRING THEM, I'M GONNA GIVE THEM TO MY, MY GRANDDAUGHTER.
AND THEN SHE'S GONNA BRING THEM INTO HER THIRD GRADE CLASS AND PROBABLY, I APPRECIATE YOU.