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FORM LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AND SUBMIT THE COMPLETED FORM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS WHEN YOUR NAME IS BEING CALLED YOU.THE MICROPHONE AT THE ELECTOR OF THE AUDIENCE IS RIGHT AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, OR YOUR NAME AND CITY.
SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE BODY.
DO NOT ADDRESS THE MAYOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY.
BE MINDFUL THE TIME OR TURING AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT BEFORE THE SPEAKING TIME ENDS.
THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE, A PERSON OF THE LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE.
A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME AS REALLY BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE A RECORDABLE FOR THE COUNCIL.
ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL AND PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS OR REMARKS OR BECOME BOISTEROUS OR DISRESPECTFUL WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDER TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION.
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND.
AND THAT WOULD BE GIVEN BY MS. KENNEDY, CORRECT? YEP.
LORD, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE DEDICATION OF OUR CITY STAFF, WHOSE TIRELESS EFFORTS KEEP OUR COMMUNITY THRIVING FOR THE COURAGE AND COMMITMENT OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO PROTECT AND SERVE WITH HONOR.
AND FOR THE CITIZENS WHOSE VOICES AND VALUES SHAPE THE SOUL OF OUR CITY.
LORD, GRANT US WISDOM IN OUR DECISIONS, COMPASSION IN OUR DECISIONS, AND UNITY IN OUR PURPOSE.
MAY WE LEAD WITH HUMILITY AND INTEGRITY, ALWAYS MINDFUL OF THE TRUST PLACED IN US BY THOSE WE SERVE.
PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ROLL CALL VOTE.
MR. EWEN, COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT.
COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO, VICE MAYOR NEWMAN HERE.
AND I'M HERE MOVING ON TO PRO PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATIONS.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA START OUT WITH THE 60TH ANNIVERSARY TO AGING MATTER.
I WANTED TO, UH, DO A QUICK PROCLAMATION AND, AND, UH, TALK ABOUT AGING MATTERS IN BREVARD, UH, PROCLAMATION CITY OF MELBOURNE.
WHEREAS AGING MATTERS IN REBAR, ORIGINALLY KNOWN AS THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COUNCIL WAS INCORPORATED AS A NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION JUNE 7TH, 1965.
AND TODAY, BOTH THE INDEPENDENT HEALTH, SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF SENIORS COUNTYWIDE.
AND WHEREAS AGING MATTERS IS NOW THE LEADING AGENCY PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES TO SENIORS ACROSS BREVARD COUNTY IS KICKING OFF ITS 60TH ANNIVERSARY 20 25, 20 20 28, 20 85 CHAMPIONED INITIATIVE ON JULY 1ST.
AND WHEREAS HAVING GROWN ALONGSIDE VAR COUNTY AGING MATTERS NOW EMPLOYS MORE THAN 90 STAFF MEMBERS AND MOBILIZES MORE THAN 800 VOLUNTEERS WHO DRIVE MORE THAN 400,000 MILES.
AND WHEREAS TOGETHER, STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS WITH SUPPORT FROM A MATTER OF SUPPORTERS PROVIDE LIFE CHANGING SERVICES ANNUALLY TO HUNDREDS OF SENIORS COUNTYWIDE, INCLUDING 79,000 HOURS OF CHAMPIONSHIP RESPITE, SOCIALIZATION, SAFETY, COMPANIONSHIP, I APOLOGIZE, RESPITE, SOCIAL SOCIALIZATION, SAFETY AND WELLNESS CHECK AND LIGHT HOUSEKEEPING IN 2024, AND STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS PREPARE MORE THAN 425,000 MEALS AT A BREVARD COUNTY KITCHEN AND DISTRIBUTED THEM DAILY THROUGH MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM, WEEKLY AT 13 SENIORS, UM, AT LUNCH, COMMUNITY DINING CENTERS, AND MONTHLY PROVIDING, UH, PET FOODS TO 160 CLIENTS OR PET ON WHEELS.
AND WHEREAS STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS INSTALLED 178 RAMPS AND 2100, UH, GRAB BARS OPERATED A SUNFLOWER HOUSE, WHICH PROVIDES CRITICAL CAREGIVER SUPPORT, RECRUITED RETIRED SENIOR VOLUNTEER PROGRAM VOLUNTEERS FOR OWN AND MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AND CONDUCT BONE BUILDERS CLASSES FOR 370 SENIORS PREVENT OSTEOPOROSIS NOW, THEREFORE, WE HAVE RESOLVED BY PAUL OPRY, MAYOR CITY OF LVD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY RECLAIM, UH, AGING MATTERS IN BREVARD, UH, FOR 60 YEARS OF DISTINGUISHED SERVICE TO CITIZENS AND PARTICULARLY THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
AND CONGRATULATE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND LEADERSHIP TEAM FOR A JOB WELL DONE WITNESS.
MY, UH, HAND IS STILL OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, AND I WILL SAY I'VE, UH, BEEN ON RIGHT WITH AGING MATTERS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO TO OUR SENIORS AND REALLY THE MOST VULNERABLE IN, IN OUR, UH, IN OUR POPULATION.
SO IF YOU'LL SAY A FEW WORDS, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
SO, UM, AS HE SAID, MY NAME IS KIMBERLY BUTLER.
I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES FOR AGING MATTERS IN BREVARD.
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TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, PRESIDENTS CEO TOM CAMERON DENNER, WHO'S ACTUALLY ATTENDING ANOTHER EVENT AS WE SPEAK.UM, HE DID SEND ME WITH A MESSAGE THAT HE WOULD LIKE ME TO RELAY.
UM, SHOULD I JUST A CROWD OR COUNCIL? YEAH.
IT'S A TRUE HONOR TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION FROM THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, RECOGNIZING THE 60TH ANNIVERSARY OF AGING MATTERS IN BREVARD.
IN 1965, A GROUP OF COMMUNITY LEADERS, MUCH LIKE YOURSELVES, CAME TOGETHER TO CREATE THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COUNCIL OF BREVARD, WHICH LATER EVOLVED INTO THE LOCAL NONPROFIT WE KNOW TODAY AS AGING MATTERS.
IN BREVARD, THAT SAME YEAR, THE OLDER AMERICANS ACT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW, CREATING A NATIONAL NETWORK TO SUPPORT OLDER ADULTS AND LIVING INDEPENDENTLY FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AGING MATTERS HAS BEEN A PART OF THAT NATIONAL EFFORT LEADING THE WAY LOCALLY WITH PROGRAMS LIKE MEALS ON WHEELS, TRANSPORTATION IN-HOME, AND PERSONAL CARE AND CAREGIVER SUPPORT.
TODAY, WE'RE PROUD TO SERVE THOUSANDS OF SENIORS ACROSS BREVARD COUNTY, AND MANY OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE ARE NOT ONLY LIFE CHANGING, BUT LIFESAVING AS WE CELEBRATE 60 YEARS OF SERVICE, WE'RE TAKING A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON THE CHAMPIONS PAST AND PRESENT WHO HELPED US GET WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
ON JULY 1ST, WE'LL LAUNCH OUR 2025 TO 2028 CHAMPIONS INITIATIVE TO IDENTIFY THE SUPPORT AND THE NEXT GENERATION OF LOCAL LEADERS TO HELP TAKE OUR AGENCY TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
THESE LEADERS WILL ENSURE THAT OUR SENIORS CONTINUE TO AGE WITH DIGNITY, SAFETY, AND INDEPENDENCE.
WE ALSO ASK FOR YOUR HELP AND URGING SUPPORT FOR THE OLDER AMERICANS ACT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UP FOR REAUTHORIZATION WITH CONGRESS BECAUSE EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED IN AGING MATTERS IN BREVARD PROTECTS THE QUALITY OF OUR SENIORS LIFE.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER FOR THIS PROCLAMATION AND YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FOR CARING OF OUR SENIORS.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A BIG ANNIVERSARY HERE.
UH, KEVIN CHAIRMAN, HOW YOU DOING, SIR AND TODD, ORDER COME ON UP.
WE HAVE OUR, OUR REST OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA LET THEM SIT THERE AND ENJOY IT.
HOW Y'ALL GENTLEMEN DOING? I'M HANGING IN HERE.
I GOT A, I GOT A BACK PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M HERE ALL I'M HERE IN SPIRIT.
I'M NOT, SO, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE GONNA START OUT HERE.
THIS IS A, UH, SHRINERS INTERNATIONAL.
THIS IS A PROCLAMATION CITY OF MELBOURNE, WHEREAS SHRINER'S INTERNATIONAL FRATERNITY WAS FOUNDED OVER 150 YEARS AGO IN 1872.
AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF SHRINERS INTERNATIONAL PROVIDE FUN AND FELLOWSHIP FOR MEN AND GOOD CHARACTER ACROSS THE GLOBE.
AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF SHRINERS IN INTERNATIONAL ARE KNOWN FOR SUPPORTING THEIR COMMUNITIES AND MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
AND WHEREAS THE SHRINERS WITH VISION AND GENEROSITY CREATE THEIR OFFICIAL PHILANTHROPY, THE SHRINERS CHILDREN'S HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN 1922.
AND WHEREAS SHRINERS INTERNATIONAL FRATERNITY NOW SUPPORTS SHRINERS CHILDREN'S HEALTHCARE FACILITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, AS WELL AS IN CANADA AND MEXICO.
AND WHEREAS SHRINERS INTERNATIONAL AND SHRINERS CHILDREN'S WORK TOGETHER TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT, SPECIAL, SPECIALTY MEDICAL CARE TO CHILDREN REGARDLESS OF A FAMILY'S ABILITY TO PAY FOR INSURANCE STATUS.
AND IT IS FITTING AND APPROPRIATE TO KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S CONTRIBUTIONS OF SHRINERS INTERNATIONAL AND TO COMMEND THE SHRINER FOR THE POSITIVE IMPACT THEY MAKE ON THEIR COMMUNITY.
NOW, THEREFORE BE, UH, RESOLVED THAT I, PAUL OPRY, MAYOR CITY, MELBOURNE BARD COUNTY, UH, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY CONGRATULATE SHRINERS INTERNATIONAL UPON CELEBRATING THE HUNDRED 50 ANNIVERSARY OF THE FOUNDING OF THEIR VENERABLE FRATERNITY.
AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO CONGRATULATE THE ESTEEM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO SHRINERS WITNESS MY HAND, THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, 10TH DAY OF JUNE, 2025.
AND BEFORE YOU PAUSE, WOULD YOU GIVE SOME, UH, WORDS? UH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCILMAN AND WOMEN.
I'M PUBLIC RELATIONS AND ALSO ONE OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND IT IS SUCH AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THIS PHILANTHROPY.
WE CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HELP FAMILIES NOT ONLY LOCALLY, UM, BUT THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
AND, UM, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND GENEROUS PEOPLE GIVING TO OUR GREAT PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATION, WE'RE ABLE TO DO MANY THINGS FOR 'EM FROM KEEPING THEM, UH, SAFE ON TRAVELS, GETTING THEM TO PLACES THROUGH
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THE, THROUGH PLANES OR TRAINS OR AUTOMOBILES.UM, AND WE ALSO, UH, TAKE CARE OF ANY OF THEIR HOTEL STAYS.
BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS PHILANTHROPY IS ABOUT FUN FELLOWSHIP, AND OF COURSE, THE MAIN THING, THE PHILANTHROPY, WHICH ARE THE KIDS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.
AND WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE WORKING HARD AND DILIGENTLY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE CHILDREN'S LIVES.
SO WE APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, SUPPORT MAYOR AT THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER.
YOU ALL ARE, WE, IT MEANS A LOT TO US, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SAY A WORD THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH? WELL, IT'S HARD TO BE, TO ACT LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY GO, YOU CAN ONLY GO DOWN A HILL.
I FELT SHORT AROUND THEM LIKE THE WRONG TIME.
I THINK YOU GOTTA BE LIKE SIX 10 TO BE IN THAT GROUP.
YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, YOU'RE GETTING A LITTLE CARD BEING THAT DOG.
NO, JUST COME ON BACK AND SIT IN YOUR CHAIR WITH YOUR CUSHION
UH, IT SAYS, THIS IS ACTUALLY INCORRECT.
IT SAYS TERRY JONES, BUT IT'S DR. TERRY JONES.
HOW YOU DOING? HEY, 15, YOU COME ON UP.
UH, THIS IS GONNA BE EM ALLEN JUNETEENTH DAY.
SO, UH, REAL QUICK, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.
I, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO, TO, UH, TO PRESENT THIS.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT EVENTS COMING UP AND, AND I'LL START HERE.
THIS IS A PROCLAMATION, CITY OF MELBOURNE, WHEREAS GREATER ALLEN CHAPEL, MECCA AND KOREA HAVE LED THE EFFORTS FOR SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT, SOCIAL JUSTICE, EDUCATIONAL ADVANCEMENT, AND ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOR A COMBINED PERIOD OVER A HUNDRED YEARS THROUGH FAITH-BASED LEADERSHIPS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE SUPPORT AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS GRAD GREATER ALLEN CHAPEL WAS FOUNDED BY BALLAM ALLEN, SELENA ALLEN, WRIGHT BROTHERS, MARY BROTHERS, ROBERT LIPSCOMB, AND KERRY LIPSCOMB IN 1885.
AND METCA WAS FOUNDED BY DR. TERRY JONES IN 2017.
AND KOREA WAS FOUNDED BY MS. ALBERTA KLING SCALE IN 2015.
AND WHEREAS GREATER, GREATER ALLEN CHAPEL, UH, IT MEKA BELIEVE IT'S HARD, AND MY GLASSES AND KOREA, OUR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION COLLECTIVELY FORMED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENSURING FAITH-BASED LEADERSHIP, SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE, EDUCATIONAL, SOCIAL ECONOMIC OF WORK FOR WORKFORCE QUALITY OF ALL PEOPLE.
AND WHEREAS GREATER ALLEN CHAPEL, MEKA AND KOREA ARE HOSTING THE INTER INAUGURAL AND INAUGURAL, UH, UH, BUT BAUM ALLEN TEENTH CELEBRATION, WHICH HAS A THEME OF LEFT WE FORGET ON JUNE 19TH, 2025, AND THE GREATER ALLEN CHAPEL, A ME CHURCH, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
NOW, THEREFORE, UH, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I PAUL RY, MAYOR CITY, MELBOURNE, BARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19TH, 2025 OF BAUM ALLEN JUNETEENTH DAY IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
INVITE ALL CITIZENS TO ATTEND THE BAUM AAM JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AND JOIN IN THE CELEBRATION WITH THESE COMMUNITY FOCUS FOCUSED ORGANIZATION.
WITNESS MY HAND, THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, 19TH DAY JUNE, 2025, PAUL RE MANDER.
SO IF YOU WOULD KIND OF GIVE US A BACKDROP, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I, UH, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, UH, QUITE A FEW EVENTS WITH SOME OF THE BIG THINGS COMING TO MELBOURNE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT MELBOURNE WAS FOUNDED BY THREE EMANCIPATED SLAVES.
UH, UH, I GOT THE, I GOT TO GO THIS LAST WEEKEND AND SPEAK OVER IN ORLANDO, AND IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, A REALLY EVENT WITH THE HISPANIC CHAMBER.
UM, AND, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, ABOUT, UM, UH, MELBOURNE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM BRAZIL, UH, HONDURAS, UH, MAYOR, MANY OTHER, I GOT TO TELL 'EM ABOUT MAYOR, UH, MELBOURNE AND HOW WE CAME ABOUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE PLACES THAT I GOT TO MEET, UH, SENATORS, UH, A LOT OF HIGH RANKING PEOPLE, HOW THEY FIGHT EVERY DAY FOR FREEDOM.
BUT I GOT TO KIND OF TELL MY STORY DURING THE, UH, THE SPEECH ON HOW WE IN MELBOURNE CAME TO BE THE GREAT CITY OF MELBOURNE.
SO IT WAS VERY, YOU KNOW, EYE-OPENING.
YOU TAUGHT ME A LOT ON THAT DR. JONES.
SO IF YOU WOULD SAY A FEW WORDS, AND I'D GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
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THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH MAYOR ALFRE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND TIME AS WELL.
THIS IS SUCH A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF HISTORY FOR ME AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY AS A HISTORIAN.
IT'S ONE OF MANY HATS THAT I WEAR.
I'M ALSO A RETIRED ARMY CAPTAIN, 20 YEARS OF SERVICE, AS WELL AS RETIRED FROM EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE.
AND I AM A DISABLED VETERAN AS WELL.
BUT AS FAR AS THE HISTORIAN PART OF MY HAT IS CONCERNED, I STARTED DOING RESEARCH ON FOUNDERS AND JUST MELBOURNE HISTORY BECAUSE I FOUND IT VERY INTRIGUING.
AND I CAME UPON THIS STORY AS ME ALFRE ADDRESSED ABOUT THE THREE FOUNDERS OF MELBOURNE, PETER WRIGHT, WRIGHT BROTHERS, AND BAYEM ALLEN.
NOW, WHY WE CHOSE TO MAKE THIS A BAYEM ALLEN JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IS BECAUSE BAYEM ALLEN IS ONE OF THE THREE FOUNDERS WHO NEVER WAS, WHO WAS LAID TO REST WITHOUT A HEADSTONE.
AND SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS GENTLEMAN DIED 1893, IF YOU DO THE MATH, THAT'S 132 YEARS FROM TODAY.
NO HEADSTONE, I'M A TRANSPLANT HERE, BUT WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, I SAID, WE NEED TO WRITE THIS ATROCITY, RIGHT? AND SO, WITH THE WORK OF OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY, WE HOSTING AN EVENT ON THE 19TH, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL WAIT TILL THE WEEKEND, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS SIGNIFICANT TO DO IT THE DAY OF THE 19TH, WHICH IS JUNETEENTH, BECAUSE JUNETEENTH HAS A SIGNIFICANCE AS WELL.
AND JUNETEENTH REPRESENTS WHEN AFRICAN AMERICAN AND SLAVE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON, TEXAS WERE INFORMED BY UNION TROOPS THAT THEY WERE FREE.
ALTHOUGH ABRAHAM LINCOLN INITIATED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION IN 18 63, 2 YEARS BEFORE THE END OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR, THAT WAS FOR ALL ENSLAVED PEOPLE.
SO PEOPLE LIKE TO BELIEVE OR THINK THAT ENSLAVED PEOPLE MEANT JUST BLACK SLAVES.
THERE WERE AMERICAN INDIANS, THERE WERE POOR WHITES, THERE WERE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF OTHER ETHNICITIES.
SO THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION SAID ALL ENSLAVED PEOPLE WERE FREE IN THE CONFEDERATE STATES,
THAT REALLY DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION AND HAPPEN UNTIL 18.
WHAT DID I SAY? 60? ARE YOU GUYS FOLLOWING ME?
AND THAT'S WHEN THEY WERE INFORMED IN THE, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, CITY OF GALVESTON BY UNION TROOPS.
SO THE SIGNIFICANCE IS HERE WE HAVE BALUM ALLEN, HE CAME TO FLORIDA, RIGHT HERE, CRANE CREEK, THAT'S THE AREA WAS CALLED CRANE CREEK BEFORE IT WAS DESIGNATED AS MELBOURNE SEVERAL YEARS LATER WHEN IT WAS INCORPORATED.
BUT HE CAME TO CRANE CREEK AS A FREE MAN AROUND 1870 ISH, ALTHOUGH THE FIRST ONE CAME IN 1867, WHICH WAS PETER WRIGHT.
SO 1870 AS SHE CAME TO CRANE CREEK.
HE WAS A FREE MAN WHEN HE CAME HERE.
AND LITERALLY, BLACKS WERE JUST BEING INFORMED THAT THEY WERE FREE IN 1865.
SO HE CAME HERE AS A FREE MAN, AND HE HELPED BUILD THIS COMMUNITY.
BUT ALTHOUGH THIS SECOND SIGNIFICANCE IS THE FACT THAT GREATER ALLEN CHAPEL, IT WAS HIM, ALONG WITH FIVE OTHER MEMBERS, FIVE OTHER AFRICAN AMERICAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, ROBERT LIPSCOMB, HIS WIFE, CARRIE LIPSCOMB, BAYLA ALLEN, HIS WIFE, UH, I THINK IT'S HIS SERENA LIPSKA, UM, WRIGHT BROTHERS AND HIS WIFE MARY BROTHERS, THEY ALL SAT IN THE KITCHEN OF WRIGHT BROTHERS.
AND THEY STARTED THE FIRST CHURCH IN MELBOURNE, 1885, THE FIRST CHURCH IN MELBOURNE, WHICH WAS AT THE TIME CALLED ALLEN CHAPEL.
TODAY, IT HAS EVOLVED TO BECOME GREATER ALLEN CHAPEL, BUT IT'S A DUAL SIGNIFICANCE.
SO THIS MAN NEVER HAD A HEADSTONE.
SO IT IS OUR TIME TO HONOR HIM.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ARE INVITED TO COME OUT ON THE 19TH TO GREATER ALLEN CHAPEL, EIGHT O'CLOCK.
IT'S GONNA BE A CEREMONY THAT WILL CONSIST OF THE BREAKFAST, A DEDICATION CEREMONY AT THE GRAVE SITE TO JUST RECOGNIZE THE NEW HEADSTONE.
AND THEN THERE IS A MUSEUM, MELBOURNES FOUNDERS MUSEUM THAT TYPICALLY WE'D HAVE TO PAY TO WALK THROUGH, AND YOU'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THROUGH IT, NO COST.
SO WE'RE OFFERING THIS, UM, PARTNERING
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WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AS A FREE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST, AND I HOPE TO SEE ALL OF YOU ON THE 19TH.
YOU KNOW, LAST, LAST I WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU, DR. JONES, BECAUSE, UH, YOU'VE BEEN, YOU HAVE, YOU'VE HAD YOUR HARDEN INTO THIS, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE A, A MOVIE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT, UH, MELBOURNE FOUND A FINDING OF MELBOURNE AND, AND, UH, UH, IT'S GONNA BE, IT, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, A REALLY GOOD MCC CRANE CREEK AND LOOKING FORWARD OF THEM TO START FILMING HERE SOON.
AND, AND, YEAH, WHICH IS NOT TOO FAR AWAY.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY, UH, NICE MOVIE.
AND AGAIN, I, I'M A, I, I REALLY BELIEVE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN'T FORGET HISTORY, BECAUSE IF YOU DO, YOU'RE BOUND TO REPEAT IT.
AND WE HAVE A RICH HISTORY, WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR BAD, BUT IT'S STILL OUR HISTORY.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTE OF THE MAY 27TH, 2025 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MAYOR? GO AHEAD.
MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MAY 27TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. NEWMAN, SECOND BY, UH, MS. BASSETT, ALTHOUGH THE FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.
FIRST OFF, YOU WILL NOTICE A NEW FACE AT THE STAFF TABLE, AND SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, JOAN Y. BROWN.
AND SO, UM, I'M, LIKE I SAID, VERY EXCITED SHE'S HERE WITH THEM JOINING US TONIGHT.
UM, SO THAT WAS MY FIRST ITEM, UM, IN THE CITY MANAGER IN THE WRITTEN REPORT, I DID GIVE A BRIEFING ON THE MELBOURNE HOSPITALITY HOLDINGS, UM, AND THE, UM, PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR THE UGALI HOTEL AND JOINT PARKING GARAGE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE, UM, A LITTLE MORE UPDATE FROM WHAT WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE.
SO, UM, STAFF MET, UM, LAST WEEK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
UM, STAFF HAS COMPLETED, OR HAS, HAS, IS WORKING ON, ARE ALMOST COMPLETE WITH THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AND FEASIBILITY REVIEW.
AND, UM, AS DISCUSSED LAST WEEK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND THEN ALSO THIS AFTERNOON, THE, UM, THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE REQUEST AND THE CONCEPTUAL TERMS. SO THIS AFTERNOON WE WERE WORKING ON, UM, FINALIZING A STRUCTURED TERM SHEET FOR THE JULY 8TH AGENDA.
SO WE THINK WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
SO WE WILL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM ON JULY 8TH FOR, UM, TO PRESENT TO COUNSEL THE TERMS AND TO, TO RECEIVE DIRECTION TO THEN POSSIBLY SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS OR THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED PER THE TERMS OF, OF CODE.
SO, UM, WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON THIS, AND WE WILL HAVE THIS ON THE JULY 8TH MEETING.
AND WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING, UM, AT THAT JULY 8TH MEETING ON TERMS TO GO TO THE COUNTY FOR, UM, THE REVISED INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
SO I MAY POSSIBLY TRY TO SCHEDULE THAT MEETING IN ADVANCE JUST SO WE DON'T LOSE ANY TIME WITH SCHEDULING MEETINGS, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU AWARE OF THAT.
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IT IS ON MY, ON MY MANAGER'S REPORT.
UM, I AM WORKING ON PROVIDING UNDER SEPARATE COVER AN UPDATE ON THE SIX SEPARATE TASKS REGARDING THE ACQUISITION OF THE BEHAR COUNTY PROPERTY.
AND, UM, JUST TO, TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I MET WITH COUNTY, WITH THE COUNTY ON, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 29TH OF MAY, AND THEY HAD NOT RE, HADN HADN'T BEEN GIVEN ANY DIRECTION FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION AT THAT POINT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TERMS. SO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SORT OF LOOKING INTO THEIR, WHAT THEIR, UM, PROPERTY ACQUISITION DISPOSITION TERMS ARE.
BUT AS OF THE MEETING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE APPRAISED VALUE BECAUSE THEY MUST RECEIVE FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, WE DID ALSO TALK ABOUT THE TDC
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GRANT AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK OUT.UM, WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TDC, UM, STAFF MEMBER THERE, AND THEY ARE SAYING THEY NEED A STUDY TO SHOW THE NUMBER OF OVERNIGHT STAYS OR THE ROOM NIGHTS THAT WOULD RESULT FROM ALLOCATING THE TDC FUNDS TOWARDS THAT.
SO THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING, THEY WILL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THEIR COMMISSION ON WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN PERFORM OR SOMETHING THEY WILL REQUIRE US TO PERFORM.
I BELIEVE THEY ALSO MEET ON JULY 8TH.
THAT WAS THE NEXT EARLIEST TIME THEY COULD GET IN FRONT OF THEIR COMMISSION TO ASK AND IF THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING THAT STUDY.
SO, UM, THE, THE REPORT THAT, OR THE MEMO THAT I PROVIDE YOU WILL HAVE A LOT MORE DETAILS IN IT ON THE OTHER ITEMS. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A, A QUICK OVERVIEW OF, OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE TALKING POINTS WERE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MAYOR? GOOD, SIR? OH, JUST TWO THINGS.
AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY FROM YOUR REPORT, BUT THERE'S REALLY GREAT FROM THE UPDATE OVER THE WEEKEND ONE, UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND THE STAFF FOR THAT CRIME MAP THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUBLISHING.
I THINK THAT'S VERY FANTASTIC AND REALLY EXCITING.
UM, ESPECIALLY AFTER TALKING TO SOME RESIDENTS AS RECENTLY AS TODAY.
I THINK THAT WILL ABSOLUTELY HELP OUR, OUR COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS.
UM, NUMBER TWO, I JUST WANTED TO, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A FAMOUS STAFF MEMBER WITH, I'M GONNA BUTCHER THE NAME PROBABLY COLIN NIK IS, UH, GONNA BE A, POSSIBLY PGA PRO WHERE HE'S GOING OUT TO THAT.
SO JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE HIM AND OUR STAFF AND ALL THAT STUFF.
ANY, ANY, ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, SEVEN PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE HAVE A COUPLE.
UH, JIM HART, FOLLOWED BY RAY SHACKLEFORD AND JOANNE DANKO.
HOW YOU DOING SIR? I'M JIM HART.
I'M THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF SPACE COAST HONOR FLIGHT.
I HAVE, UH, TERRY ENO, THE TREASURER, AND, UH, TONY THERIN, OUR OPS OFFICER WITH US TODAY.
MAYOR, MAY I INTERRUPT JUST FOR A MOMENT, JIM? YES.
UM, JIM HART IS A US UH, NAVY RETIRED REAR ADMIRAL.
UM, HE CAME TO US AT THE, UH, AIRPORT AUTHORITY BOARD LAST MONTH AND MADE THIS PRESENTATION TO US.
I WON'T STEAL YOUR THUNDER
AND JIM, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME.
UH, JUST A MINUTE OR TWO ON SPACE COAST HONOR FLIGHT.
WE'VE BEEN AROUND IN, IN, IN MELBOURNE, HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY FOR 15 YEARS.
WE'VE MADE 81 HONOR FLIGHTS TO WASHINGTON DC WE'VE TAKEN 2,128 VETERANS IN THIS COMMUNITY UP TO WASHINGTON TO SEE THEIR MEMORIALS NOW, THEIR MEMORIALS, UH, UH, RANGE FROM WORLD WAR II, KOREA, VIETNAM, UH, IWO JIMA, US AIR FORCE, MEMORIAL WOMEN'S MILITARY MEMORIAL, AND ARLINGTON CEMETERY, WHERE WE SEE THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD.
SO, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 15 YEARS, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS GONE OUT OF ORLANDO.
NOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IS TO GO OUT OF MELBOURNE AIRPORT.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH, UH, A CHARTER ALLEGIANT AIRLINES, WHO'S FAIRLY NEW TO MELBOURNE AND, UH, AND, AND WITH THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT THEN THAT LEADERSHIP AND STAFF OVER THERE HAVE BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO HELP US, UH, AND, AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN.
SO THIS FALL, UH, ON SIXTH SEPTEMBER 11 OCTOBER AND EIGHT NOVEMBER, WE WILL, WE WILL, UH, BE FLYING OUT OF ORLANDO.
AND WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT? MELBOURNE OUTTA MELBOURNE, I'M SORRY,
MELBOURNE, CHANGING YOUR BRAIN.
WE MADE A LOT OF FLIGHTS OUTTA ORLANDO.
UM, COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THIS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
UH, NORMALLY WHEN WE GO OUT OF ORLANDO, IT'S ABOUT A 24 HOUR EVOLUTION FOR THE VETERANS AND FOR US WHEN WE MOVE TO MELBOURNE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT TO ABOUT 18, UH, ABOUT 18 HOURS.
SO THAT, THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
I ALSO THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET A MUCH BETTER RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THE SENDOFF AND THE WELCOME HOME OF, OF THE VETERANS AS WELL.
SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU ALL.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO NEED IS WE NEED VOLUNTEERS.
WE NEED GUARDIANS AND VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US.
SO ANYBODY IN HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED WITH US, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
UH, TERRY HERE HAS, UH, APPLICATIONS FOR GUARDIANS, UH, AND SCHEDULES.
SO IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, UH, JUST LET US KNOW AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, UH, GIVE YOU THE PAPERWORK.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? UM, MR. MAYOR,
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UM, JENNY, CAN WE POST THAT? IS IT POSSIBLE TO POST THE APPLICATION PROCESS ON OUR CITY WEBSITE SO THAT THEY CAN, I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITIES OF IT, BUT, UH, ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS? UM, WELL, IF, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK, I, I DON'T NEED TO HAVE BACK AND FORTH.YEAH, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND GET IT ON THE WEBSITE FOR YOU AS WELL.
WE OF COURSE HAVE OUR OWN WEBSITE AND ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS.
UH, AND SCHEDULES ARE ON OURS.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GOOGLE SPACE COAST HONOR FLIGHT.
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU.
SHE'S GOING TO GIVE US THE APPLICATIONS.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY APPLICATION COUNCIL.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
I AM DR. RAY CHAKER FORD IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA AT A RECENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THE CITY COUNCIL EMBRACE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE STATUS? WHAT IS THE STATUS? YES.
THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS? YES.
UM, I ACTUALLY, I I CRUNCHED ALL THE NUMBERS.
ME PERSONALLY, I'M NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
AND, AND IF I MAY SAY, IF I MAY SAY SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, UH, I, I'M SURE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUT IF YOU GO BACK, YOU CAN GO ON THE BOAT BOULEVARD WEBSITE AND, UH, IF ANYBODY THAT, IF ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW WE'RE ELECTED BY ALL THE PEOPLE IN, IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, AND YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT TO REPRESENT, UH, YOU DON'T ALWAYS WIN ALL YOUR DISTRICT.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, SIR, UH, MR. SMITH, HE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE IF WE HAD SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE HE, HE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A CLOSE RACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT MR. SMITH, I THINK YOU LOST BY 13 VOTES IN THE DISTRICT.
BUT BECAUSE HE DID WELL AND HE DOES A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY, HE DOES WELL OVERALL, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE CHOSE MR. SMITH.
SO JUST LET, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WOULD'VE, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED FOR US TO HAVE MR. SMITH IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN THAT.
WELL, AS A FORMER CITY COUNCILMAN OF A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT, I DISAGREE WITH YOU.
IF SIR, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME, AND I'M JUST, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING, UH, WOULD, DO YOU NOT AGREE THAT HE, THAT HE WOULDN'T HAVE, HAVE WON? NO, I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT SINGLE MEMBER.
OH, UH, YOU WANT THAT SPECIFIC, LIKE THE COUNTY DOES? WELL, I'M NOT GONNA CLOSE MY EYES ON SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT BECAUSE IT DOES HAPPEN THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT CITIES IN AMERICA.
AND I'M NOT GONNA CLOSE MY EYE ON SENIOR MEMBER DISTRICT HERE IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
AND, AND IF I COULD SAY, I'LL THROW ONE MORE THING OUT AT YOU.
AND A LOT OF TIMES THE SCHOOL BOARD TOO, DOESN'T IT? HUH? DOES THE SCHOOL BOARD HAVE SENIOR MEMBER DISTRICT AS WELL? WHO? THE SCHOOL SCHOOL BOARD? YEAH, THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES.
BUT THE COUNTY, THEY'LL MAKE DECISIONS ON ONE PERSON.
WHAT'S YOUR DISTRICT? HOWEVER YOU WANT IT.
WE'LL DO IT INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY PUTTING THEIR INPUT.
SO IT DOES HAVE SOME, UH, IN MY OPINION, SOME NEGATIVE, UH, UH, SOME NEGATIVES.
WELL, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DISAGREE.
SIR, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I FAVOR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, JOANNE DANKO AND NEIGHBORS.
THESE GIRLS HERE ARE MY NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN MY COMMUNITY IN RIVERVIEW PARK, UH, NEAR RIVERVIEW PARK.
UM, I SUBMITTED A PETITION TO THE CITY RECENTLY, UM, BECAUSE IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN HOMELESS POPULATION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND MORE SO AT RIVERVIEW PARK THAT ABUTS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS BRINGING THE INCREASE.
UM, WE FOUND MANY PEOPLE SLEEPING IN THE PARK AT NIGHT, HANGING OUT IN THE PARK DURING THE DAY, WHICH THEY'RE ALLOWED.
I, YOU KNOW, NO, THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE HOMELESS.
THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
BUT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD OUR, YOU KNOW, REGULAR HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE KNOW.
WE'VE SEEN THESE WERE JUST, THEY WOULD COME OUT OF THE BLUE.
UM, WITH DOING A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH, I FOUND OUT THAT, UH, IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, A ORGANIZATION IS FEEDING THE HOMELESS IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS EVERY SUNDAY FROM THREE TO FIVE.
NOT A PROBLEM WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.
UH, I HAVE FOLLOWED THEM FOR YEARS ALL THROUGH COVID.
THEY DO WONDERFUL THINGS FOR THE HOMELESS
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AND THE COMMUNITY IN NEED.UM, I, I AM CURIOUS WHY THEY ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN IN OUR PARK EVERY SUNDAY
UM, BUT IT, IT'S MORE SO NOT ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION, BUT THE HOMELESS DON'T LEAVE AFTER THESE MEETINGS.
THEY HAVE POSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE AS RECENTLY AS, UM, TWO WEEKS AGO, MAY 14TH, THERE WERE MORE THAN 80 PEOPLE AT OUR PARK TO GET FED THESE.
AND ANOTHER CURIOSITY OF MINE IS THAT THESE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS.
THERE'S NO FOOD SAFETY REGULATION OR CERTIFICATION.
PEOPLE ARE DONATING THESE FOOD, THIS FOOD TO THE HOMELESS.
YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM.
UM, JUST AN ODDITY THAT WE EVEN ALLOW.
IT REALLY, NOBODY ALLOWS ANYBODY TO EAT ANYTHING ANYMORE SINCE COVID
BUT, UM, THE CITY JUST INVESTED IN, IN RECENT YEARS, A LOT OF MONEY AT THE PARK GRANT MONEY FENCES.
CEMENT SIDEWALKS, PAVILIONS, PLAYGROUNDS.
MOST RECENTLY, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, UH, SOME REALLOCATED GRANT MONEY.
I I HAVE FIVE OTHER PEOPLE HERE, SO WE CAN WE TAKE SOME MORE, MORE TIME? NO, MA, GO AHEAD.
YOU, YOU TOOK THE TIME TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
SO, UM, MOST RECENTLY THERE WAS REALLOCATED GRANT MONEY THAT WENT TO, UH, BUILDING AN ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND FOR TODDLERS AND INFANTS.
WE USED TO HAVE FAMILIES IN THESE PAVILIONS SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
SO IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE PLAYGROUND IS AT THE PARK, THERE'S THREE PAVILIONS RIGHT THERE.
THE FAMILIES, THE MOMS, THE DADS, WHOEVER WOULD SIT THERE, WATCH THE KIDS, PLAY AT THE PLAYGROUND.
THIS IS WHERE THE FEEDINGS ARE HAPPENING.
THERE'S NOBODY AT THE PLAYGROUND FROM THREE TO FIVE ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
NOBODY WANTS TO BE AT THE PLAYGROUND OR IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
YOU GOT TWEAKERS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY COME, THEY GET THEIR FOOD, THEY LEAVE.
IT'S THE UNDESIRABLE HOMELESS THAT ARE HANGING IN OUR PARK.
THEY'RE, I I HAVE, AND I NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO DEPUTY CHIEF BACK THERE BECAUSE I HAVE INUNDATED OUR COMMUNITY OFFICERS WITH PHONE CALLS, TEXTS, PICTURES, BECAUSE I GET INUNDATED FROM MY COMMUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE PARK.
PEOPLE ARE OVERDOSING IN THE PARK.
PEOPLE ARE FOUND DEAD IN THE PARK.
PEOPLE ARE CAMPING OUT AT THE RIVER IN THE BRUSH AT THE PARK.
THEY'RE URINATING AND DEFECATING IN OUR RIVER.
SO IN RESEARCH THAT I DID BEFORE PRESENTING THE PETITION IN 2014, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED HOMELESS MASS FEEDINGS IN THE PARKS.
RIVERVIEW PARK WAS A DIFFERENT PARK.
THAT WAS BEFORE ANY IMPROVEMENTS, ANY CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUNDS, ANY PAVILIONS.
THERE'S SIGNAGE AT THE PARK THAT SAYS THE PARK'S CLOSED AT 7:00 PM THERE'S SIGNAGE AT THE PARK NOW THAT SAYS NO SLEEPING ON THE PAVILION PARK BENCHES.
IT DOESN'T GET ENFORCED UNLESS I'M BOTHERING DEPUTY CHIEF BACK THERE.
HIS RESOURCES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I'M SURE THEY HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN TO ANSWER OUR CALLS ABOUT PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE PARK BENCHES.
THE CITY REALLY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST, AT LEAST EIGHT TO 10 YEARS, HAS FOUGHT HARD TO CLEAN UP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
PEOPLE HAVE COME IN AND RENOVATED HOMES THAT ARE GORGEOUS.
WE DON'T EVER SEE A PROSTITUTE ANYMORE.
WE WORKED WITH THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM AND THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT WERE GIVEN TO US TO GET THEM OUT.
DRUG HOUSES, A COUPLE OF THEM.
CAMP ENCAMPMENTS AT THE TRICON PROPERTY.
I MEAN, WE WANNA STOP IT NOW BEFORE IT GETS CR I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY CRAZY THERE.
THERE'S AT LEAST 15 TO 20 PEOPLE IN THE PARK EVERY DAY, EVERY NIGHT.
UH, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE PARK, THE FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN THE PARK
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COMPLAIN EVERY DAY.THERE'S STILL PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE BRUSH.
THERE'S PEOPLE CAMPING IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
THERE'S, WE HAD PEOPLE A TWEAKER LAST WEEK KNOCKED ON SIX NEIGHBOR'S DOORS ASKING FOR MONEY.
SHIRTLESS GUY AND PINK PANTS WITH A PURSE AND A BEER IN HIS, HIS HAND.
I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE UP ON THE THREE REALLY THREE MINUTES I GAVE YOU ONE MORE TIME, BUT I'D LIKE TO REALLY, UH, ENGAGE YOU ON SOMETHING.
NUMBER ONE, UM, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU.
UH, 2014, THE PARKS WERE DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE NOW.
THEY ARE, THIS COUNCIL HAS INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY INTO OUR PARKS.
EVERY ONE OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE, WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE, THEY, THEY LOVE THEIR DISTRICT AND THEY, THEY INVEST IN THE PARK AND THEY PUT THEIR INPUT.
UM, AND I WILL TELL YOU TO ME, I ACTUALLY MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND A CITY MANAGER ON THIS MM-HMM
I PLAN ON BRINGING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
UH, ON THIS, UH, IT KIND OF WAS ODD TO ME THAT THE FORMER MAYOR, KATHY MEEHAN, SIGNED THIS AS A PETITION.
IT SHE SIGNED, SO THEY IN THE PARK, SHE, SHE SIGNED THE ORDINANCE THAT SHE, SHE VOTED FOR IT AND SIGNED THE ORDINANCE WAS IN 2014.
BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, I LETTING YOU KNOW THIS COUNCIL HERE, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.
BUT THIS COUNCIL, NOBODY IN 2014 WAS ON THIS DIET.
NO, I UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND MEAN.
I WILL TELL YOU THIS, UM, WE AGAIN, WE, WE INVESTED A LOT.
AND I'M GONNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS IT IN JULY ABOUT HOW WE CAN, UH, ADDRESS THAT.
NOW, ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS MAYBE PUT IT INSIDE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
BUT THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE THERE IS THEY'RE ALWAYS RENTED.
SO WE NEED TO, WE WILL HAVE A, A FEW WEEKS TO TRY TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
BUT I WOULD AGREE, WE NEED TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO, UH, TO GIVE KIND OF SOME, UH, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC LIKE THAT IN THE PARK.
THE, I MEAN, THERE IN THAT 2014, UH, ARTICLE, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT PARKS THAT COULD BE USED.
ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS TONIGHT IS THIS SAME ORGANIZATION WAS FEEDING THE HOMELESS AT WELLS PARK.
AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, WHY THEY'RE NOT AT WELLS PARK ANYMORE.
WHY ARE THEY AT RIVER DEAL? YEAH.
NOT LISTED WERE, IT WAS SEVEN TOTAL.
SEVEN OF THE MORE REGIONAL NO, I UNDERSTAND.
BUT MOSTLY THEY WERE FEEDING AT WELLS PARK.
AND THEN WHY ARE THEY AT RIVERVIEW NOW? DID THEY GET THROWN OUT OF WELLS PARK? WELL, WHAT, WHEN I RESEARCHED ALL IT, IT APPEARED THAT THEY, IT, IT WAS TO THIS ORDINANCE WAS PUT TOGETHER MM-HMM
UH, AND IT TO KIND OF ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ISSUES ON THE WELLS PARK.
AND IT WAS PUSHED TO, PUSHED THEM ALL TO RIVERVIEW RIVER.
AND, AND WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? I WASN'T HERE IN 2014.
THIS JUST STARTED AT RIVERVIEW.
SO, SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL BRING THIS BACK AND LET OUR COUNSEL TO ADDRESS THIS IN 2025 AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ON THAT.
UM, JUST IN THE MEANTIME, UH, I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF RELIEF.
SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF POLICE PRESENCE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SLEEPING IN THE PARK.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, UM, SLEEPING ON THE PARK BENCHES AND THINGS.
WE ALREADY HAVE THAT IN PLACE.
SO MAYBE WE CAN, UM, DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE.
IN THE MEANTIME, I WANT TO, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT OUR COMMUNITY OFFICERS, MARK LANG AND RYAN ALLEN ARE AMAZING.
THEY HAVE CALLED ME ON THE WEEKEND ON THEIR DAYS OFF BECAUSE I TEXTED THEM OR SENT THEM A PICTURE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PUT THIS ON TO COMMUNITY OFFICERS.
UM, THE BRUSH AT THE PARK, WE'VE, I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOMEBODY ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS SOME BRUSH AT THE PARK IN THIS LAST WEEK.
UM, YOU, YOU STILL CAN'T SEE THROUGH THE BRUSH
IT'S, IT'S, YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH IT.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT TO SEE THESE PEOPLE SNEAKING DOWN TO THE RIVER AND CAMPING AND DESTROYING OUR RIVER.
UM, SO IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD BE DONE ABOUT THE BRUSH AT THE PARK? OKAY.
AND REAL QUICK, IF ALRIGHT, MA'AM, IF, UH, BY, BY MAYOR THIS IT'S YOUR DISTRICT, WERE YOU EVER CONTACTED ABOUT THIS ISSUE? UM, OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR EMAIL THAT WE ALL GOT? NO, NOBODY ANSWERED MY EMAIL.
THAT'S WHY I DID THE PETITION.
WELL, NO, BUT THAT'S NOT MY, OKAY.
NO, THAT'S NOT MY POINT, MA'AM.
MY MY POINT IS, YOUR, YOUR DISTRICT COUNCILMAN AND THE, AND THE VICE MAYOR, WHO'S ALSO THE VICE MAYOR AT THIS TIME.
HE WA HE WASN'T EVEN YOU, YOU KIND OF GO THROUGH A WHOLE PETITION PROCESS AND YOU EVEN HAVE THE FORMER MAYOR WHO STAMPED THIS.
AND YOU DON'T EVEN CONTACT THE, THE, THE, YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER TO SAY, HEY, CAN WE DISCUSS THIS OR SOMETHING? YOU JUST DO A WHOLE PETITION.
'CAUSE I AGREE, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I, YOU, I SENT THE EMAIL TO THE MAYOR, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE CITY MANAGER, AND, UH, SOMEBODY ELSE.
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NOBODY RESPONDED TO SAY, YOU SHOULD REACH OUT TO YOUR CITY, REPRESENT WHOEVER YOU ARE.I FIGURED YOU'RE, I FIGURE, I FIGURE CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE LIST WOULD'VE TOLD YOU THAT, BUT I GUESS NOT.
BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL BRING THAT UP IN JULY, IF THAT'S OKAY.
YESTERDAY, DIDN'T WE JUST GET THE EMAIL YESTERDAY THAT YOU SENT? NO, RIGHT.
YOU GOT THE PETITION YESTERDAY.
THAT'S THE ONLY EMAIL THAT I'VE RECEIVED THAT I COULD HAVE RE THAT I COULD HAVE RETURNED, HAD A RETURNED MESSAGE.
IT WASN'T SENT TO EACH COUNCIL PERSON INDIVIDUALLY.
SO YEAH, IT WASN'T SENT TO EACH COUNCIL PERSON IN INDIVIDUALLY.
IT WAS SENT TO THE MAYOR, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE CITY MANAGER, AND NIKKI AT PARKS IS WHO THE OTHER PERSON? IT WAS IN MY EMAIL.
AND JUST AS YOUR COUNCIL PERSON, I DID STOP BY AND TAKE A LOOK, UH, LAST NIGHT.
UM, DEFINITELY A BIG ISSUE FOR ME.
SO I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO FIX THIS AS WELL FOR YOU.
UM, LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW PRIOR TO THIS EMAIL ON MONDAY, SO APPRECIATE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT IS.
THAT BEING SAID AS WELL, UM, MAYOR, IF WE COULD EXPAND THIS ALSO AS I WAS DRIVING AROUND THIS WEEKEND, OR NOT LAST WEEKEND, YESTERDAY, UM, WH JACKSON STREET ALSO HAD A LARGE HOMELESS POPULATION.
IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ALSO EXPAND OUR APPROACH, NOT ONLY TO THAT, BUT ALSO WH JACKSON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING COMPREHENSIVE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
THERE'S TWO OTHER FEEDINGS THAT HAPPEN ON WH JACKSON STREET DURING THE WEEK.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTION? ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? I'M MA'AM I'M ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT'S WRITTEN ON THAT, UH, REQUEST.
NO, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA NEED A SEPARATE, YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO SEPARATE CARD BECAUSE SHE PUT HER AND FIVE NEIGHBORS.
SO DID YOU WANNA SPEAK INDEPENDENTLY? I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A, A RECOMMENDATION FOR IMMEDIATE RELIEF THAT, OH, MA'AM, COULD YOU FILL OUT A CARD REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'LL, YOU GOT, YOU CAN SPEAK.
OR GO AHEAD AND SPEAK AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND FILL IT AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE DONE, FILL IT OUT FOR US.
SO WE CAN GET, SO WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU IF WE NEED TO.
I THINK BECAUSE YOU VOTED IN OR SIGNED IN THE PARKS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE MASS, UH, FEEDING OR GROUPS THAT YOU COULD DO AN EMERGENCY RELIEF NOW AND TAKE RIVERVIEW OFF THIS LIST.
IT PROVIDES SIX OTHER PARKS FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO.
THE REASON IS THAT THERE IS A THREAT TO THE CHILDREN.
THERE, THERE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING MASS FEEDINGS ADJACENT TO THE PLAYGROUND.
THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THE PARENTS TO SIT AND WATCH THEIR CHILDREN UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO BE SHARING A PAVILION WITH, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING FED DURING THE MASS FEEDING.
DO AN EMERGENCY HALT ON RIVERVIEW PARK BEING PART OF THIS, UH, PART, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, PERMIT UNTIL YOU CAN RESEARCH IT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU ACTUALLY GO TO THE PARK ON A SUNDAY, TAKE A LOOK.
AND YOU'LL SEE WHY WE'RE CONCERNED.
ON THE OTHER, OH, THERE IS ONE OTHER THING.
THE CITY DID BRING A, A EQUIPMENT DOWN TO START CUTTING THE BRUSH, BUT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LANDSCAPE, THIS IS PART OF OLD FLORIDA, IT DROPS OFF.
IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE CUT BY HAND.
AND IF, IF, IF YOU HAVE PRISONERS THAT CAN BE HIRED OUT TO MANUALLY DO THE WORK, YOU, YOU TAPE OFF THE PLAYGROUND AND YOU, YOU SAY THE PLAYGROUND IS NOT AVAILABLE.
SO THEREFORE THE PRISONERS CAN BE ON SITE, PAY THEM ON SITE TO CLEAN OUT THE BRUSH.
THAT WAY WHEN THE POLICE COME AND THEY'RE DOING A VISUAL, UH, CHECK OF THE PARK FOR HOMELESS, THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE DOWN TO THE WATERLINE.
SO, I MEAN, I SEE SOLUTIONS HERE.
THINK OUT, NOT YOU PERSONALLY, BY THE WAY, BUT THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX HERE, THERE ARE SOLUTIONS THAT WILL NOT DEPRIVE ANYBODY OF THEIR RIGHTS, BUT IT WILL HELP SAFEGUARD THE, THE CITIZENS.
MY SUGGESTIONS, ONE LAST THANK YOU MA'AM.
COMMENT IS THAT THIS JUST ISN'T GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
IT DOESN'T JUST, UH, ENCOMPASS THE PARK.
WE, WE'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE THAT FOUND PEOPLE TRYING TO SET UP HOMESTEAD ON THEIR PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS? OKAY.
THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M ACTUALLY GIMME A MOMENT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE EIGHT TO INTO JULY.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE STAFF MEMBERS THAT COULDN'T BE HERE AND I'M, I'M WANTING TO MOVE IT TO, UH,
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TO JULY, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY.UH, AND THEN ALSO, UH, MOVE, WE'RE GONNA, I WANT STILL APPROPRIATE FOR MOTION AND VOTE ON, ON MAKE THAT MOTION, UH, I SECOND OF A MOTION AND SECOND TO MOVE THAT TO JULY.
AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO MOVE 24 UP, UM, WHEN I'VE MOVED 24 UP THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DISCUSSION DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR THE 25, 26 BUDGET.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND THEN WE HAVE SECOND.
TOM, YOU KNOW, MR. UTILITY, YOU'RE THE MAGIC MAN.
OKAY,
UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL HAD A, A GREAT CHANCE TO REVIEW ALL 35 SLIDES OF ALL EXTRA INFORMATION I PROVIDED TO YOU.
THERE WILL NOT BE A POP QUIZ, I PROMISE.
UM, BUT I DID WANNA WALK THROUGH A FEW THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH THAN I'VE TRADITIONALLY DONE, JUST TO ENSURE THAT I CAN SPARK ANY ENGAGEMENT WITH YOU ON ANY SORT OF POLICY DECISIONS, THOUGHTS, IDEAS, CONCERNS, UH, AS BEST I CAN EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS SO WE CAN BETTER ADDRESS THEM GOING THROUGH IT.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA JUMP TO MY FIRST SLIDE.
UH, THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL CONDITION AS OF THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 24.
YOU MIGHT RECALL BACK A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, WE ACCEPTED THE, UH, 2024, WHAT WE CALL THE
UH, I WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT I LOOK AT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT IT SO THAT YOU MAY TOO ALSO KIND OF LOOK AT THESE REPORTS AND HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE EVENT THAT I JUST, FOR SOME REASON I'M NOT ABLE TO BE, UH, RESPONSIVE TO YOU, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME ON ANY OF OUR REPORTS.
UH, BUT DURING 24, UH, THE GENERAL FUNDS THAT, UH, I POINT OUT THERE IS ON PAGE 28 OF OUR FER, UH, INCREASED BY 11 MILLION 434, 4 69 AS GREAT, RIGHT? 11 MORE, 11 MORE MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BANK.
SO, UH, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS STATEMENT, AND THE REASON WHY WE DON'T TYPICALLY RELY SOLELY ON A SINGULAR STATEMENT IS THAT THIS IS LOOKING AT IT ON A NON BUDGETARY BASIS.
SO IT'S NOT INCLUDING ANY OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT YOU MADE DURING THE YEAR THAT WILL HAPPEN IN A SUCCESSIVE YEAR.
SO LOOKING FORWARD AND ON THAT BUDGETARY BASIS, UH, GOING TO PAGE 1 0 7, YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED AMOUNTS.
THERE ARE SOME OF THE POSITIVE VARIANCES AND NEGATIVE VARIANCES FROM WHAT WE WOULD'VE SEEN FROM OUR BUDGETING PROCESS THAT WE'RE STARTING NOW FOR 26.
UH, BUT GOING BACK THROUGH THE 24 BUDGET AND HOW WE PERFORMED, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE ENCUMBRANCES, UH, WE ACTUALLY ONLY INCREASED BY 3.1, A MORE MODEST NUMBER.
SO WE'RE NOT JUST SOCKING AWAY CASH FOR SOCKING AWAY CASH'S SAKE.
UM, BUT WE DO WANT TO IDENTIFY FOR YOU BECAUSE IN RECENT YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF SIZABLE INCREASES BETWEEN THESE TWO, UH, STATEMENTS.
UM, THE MATERIAL POSITIVE VARIANCES THAT WE SAW FROM 2024.
SO WHERE WE DID WELL, UH, FIRST LINE ITEM THERE THAT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL IS THE FAIR MARKET VALUE ADJUSTMENT.
I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT IS AND WHY I, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS, UH, IN MAKING SOME OF YOUR BUDGETARY CHOICES, UH, IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
BUT, UH, OUR SECOND VARIANCE IS THE LAKE WASHINGTON MITIGATION BANK COUNCIL MIGHT RECALL, WE OWN A PIECE OF LAND, OR, OR WE PARTIALLY OWN A PIECE OF LAND OUT NEAR THE ST.
JOHN'S RIVER THAT'S USED FOR WETLAND RESTORATION EFFORTS THAT AS A DEVELOPERS DEVELOPING WETLANDS, THEY CAN PURCHASE CREDITS SO THAT THEY CAN IN TURN, UM, DEVELOP THEIR PARCEL WITHOUT ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS NEEDED.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON THE PROJECT.
IT CAN HAPPEN $1 IN THE YEAR, IT CAN HAPPEN $1.4 MILLION IN THE YEAR.
SO THIS IS TRADITIONALLY NOT A REVENUE STREAM THAT WE BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S NOT RELIABLE ENOUGH TO SAY THAT IT'S RECURRING.
UH, BENEATH THAT'S COMMUNICATION SERVICE TAX.
WE'VE SEEN SOME VERY POSITIVE MOMENTUM IN THIS REVENUE.
UM, SOMETHING THAT I, I DO INCORPORATE INTO THIS 26 BUDGET PRESENTATION LATER ON, UH, UTILITY TAXES RELATED TO THE ELECTRIC ELECTRICAL FRANCHISE AND UTILITY TAX FEES ALSO WERE VERY POSITIVE IN THE PAST YEARS AS FPL WAS ABLE TO GET A FEW, UH, TEMPORARY RATE ADJUSTMENTS THAT BENEFITED THE CITY INDIRECTLY.
AND THEN NON-RECURRING GRANTS, THESE WOULD BE ITEMS LIKE, UH, FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS AND, UH, VARIOUS ONE-TIME GRANTS THAT ARE REALLY TRULY MEANT FOR A SINGLE PURPOSE THAT WE CAN'T RELY ON, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
SO WITH THAT, THAT $11 MILLION NUMBER, AS YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, THERE'S
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7.6 OF IT.SO THOSE WERE ITEMS THAT ARE EITHER NOT REALLY RECURRING IN NATURE, UH, OR AT LEAST IN THE CASE OF FAIR MARKET VALUE.
I'M GONNA TOUCH ON THIS ON THIS NEXT SLIDE REAL QUICK.
WHY IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN JUST SAY HERE'S 4.5 TO SPEND.
SO THIS IS A VERY CONFUSING CHART.
I APOLOGIZE THAT I CAN'T MAKE IT EVEN BIGGER.
UM, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH IS WHAT THIS FAIR MARKET VALUE WAS FOR THE CITY'S OVERALL PORTFOLIO.
SO THIS WOULD BE EVERY DOLLAR WE HAVE ON HAND FOR THE WATER SEWER FUND, THE GENERAL FUND, ANY OF THE FUNDS.
UH, AND WHEN WE INVEST THIS, UH, IF YOU GO BACK TO 2020, WE HAD A POSITIVE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF 3.6 MILLION.
SO THAT MEANT IF I BOUGHT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN SECURITIES, I HAD $103 MILLION IN MARKET VALUE.
I'D HAVE TO SELL THEM TO GET THAT 3.6.
AS YOU CAN SEE GOING THROUGH 21, UH, IT BEGAN TO DIP A LITTLE BIT AS WE CAN OF, WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THE EARLY STAGES OF THE PANDEMIC.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY A YEARS OF TIME, UH, THE PLAN LOST ABOUT $9 MILLION WORTH OF FAIR MARKET VALUE.
NOW THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN THE CITY'S DOING ITS INVESTMENT POLICY AND IN CONCURRENCE WITH THE COUNCIL PROVIDES, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS INVESTING IN FIXED TERM SECURITIES LIKE BONDS, NOTES, TREASURIES, ET CETERA.
SO IF WE BUY IT AND IT LOSES VALUE, WE JUST HOLD IT TILL IT MATURES AND WE DON'T LOSE THAT VALUE.
SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AND I DO SEE MR. LARISSA STARTING TO MOVE, FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AT ANY POINT.
I REALLY WANT THIS TO BE AN ENGAGED CONVERSATION AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THIS AS BEST AS I CAN.
UM, SO THE, UH, THE UH, UH, UH, THE INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO FOR US.
SO UNDERSTANDING THAT WE MAY HAVE TO NEED EMERGENCY FUNDS, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE, SO WE'VE GOT T-BILLS THAT ARE ANYWHERE FOUR WEEKS, SIX WEEKS, UP TO 52 WEEKS THAT MATURE.
THEN WE'VE GOT, UH, TREASURY BOND, UH, TREASURY NOTES.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE BONDS WHICH GO 20, 30 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE MATURITY AND, AND OF COURSE THE GREATER THE VALUE, THE, THE LONGER THE MATURITY.
UM, HOW ARE WE WEIGHTED ON, ON EACH ONE? UH, SO SHORT TERM, MEDIUM TERM, AND LONG TERM, I DON'T NEED THAT ANSWER TONIGHT.
OH, I HAVE, BUT I'M GONNA, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT DURING OUR ONE-ON-ONE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ABOUT THAT.
SO OUR PORTFOLIO IS DRIVEN BY A ONE TO FIVE YEAR INVESTMENT POLICY.
UH, MORE RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXTEND SOME DURATIONS TO ALLOW FOR SOME GREATER YIELDS BECAUSE THE LONGER AN INVESTOR GIVES YOU MONEY, THE MORE THEY WOULD WANT IN RETURN FOR THE RISK OF NOT HAVING THAT, UM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF LOOKING AT THE PORTFOLIO AS LIKE A BENCHMARKING TOOL.
SO IF IT WAS ANYBODY INVESTING IN AN INDEX FUND, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THE MOST COMPARABLE, UH, TO OUR PORTFOLIO WAS AT A ONE TO THREE YEAR.
SO I BELIEVE OUR WEIGHTED DURATION WAS ABOUT 1.75 YEARS.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF, ALL OF THE VARIOUS NOTES AND SECURITIES WE HOLD, WE'RE ON AVERAGE HOLDING THEM FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND THREE QUARTERS BEFORE THEY TURN OVER TO ANOTHER, UH, REINVESTED SECURITY.
AND THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE WE WERE SO CHALLENGED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, HAVING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, $10 MILLION WATER PROJECT TURNED INTO A $23 MILLION WATER PROJECT.
AND SO WE HAVE TO PUT OUR HANDS ON CERTAIN FUNDS PRETTY, PRETTY DARN QUICK.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHAT WAS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EIGHT HOUR, UH, ONE-ON-ONE WHEN WE HAVE OF COURSE AS WE HAVE EVERY YEAR.
AND, AND I, I, I'D LIKE TO REASSURE COUNSEL, WE DO, UH, FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF ALL OF OUR CONSULTANTS.
UH, I WOULD NOT MAKE A RASH JUDGMENT WITH THESE, IF THERE'S A NEED TO FIND LIQUID CASH, I DO KEEP AVAILABLE LIQUID CASH ON HAND.
UM, WE DO FORECAST SOME OF OUR CASH FLOWS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NOT A LIQUIDITY ISSUE.
BUT THAT'S ALSO PARTIALLY WHY, UH, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT VARIANCE ON THE PO PREVIOUS SLIDE OF 4.5 MILLION, THERE ARE REASONS WHY WE DON'T NECESSARILY SAY WE GOT IT, LET'S SPEND IT.
'CAUSE THAT'S, IT'S NOT REALIZED.
AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA SET OURSELVES UP FOR A WORSE FINANCIAL PICTURE LATER ON BY DOING IT.
SO, UH, CONTINUING ON, WE OBVIOUSLY HAD THAT VERY NEGATIVE, UH, MARKET VALUE IN 22 AS THE MARKET WAS, UH, CORRECTING AFTER THE PANDEMIC AND RELATED SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
UH, AND NOW WE'VE SAW THAT IMPROVE ALL THE WAY UP TO POSITIVE 4 MILLION 1 49.
THAT WAS THE END OF THE A FOR, UH, SO THE NUMBERS THAT WERE REPORTED TO YOU AT THAT POINT IN TIME WERE REFLECTING A MUCH MORE POSITIVE PICTURE THAN THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING.
UH, SINCE THAT TIME, WE'RE ABOUT ROUGHLY A MILLION IN POSITIVE FAIR MARKET NET VALUE.
SO WE'VE ALREADY LOST THREE OF IT, AND IT'S ONLY BEEN THE COURSE OF ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
SO IT'S, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WHILE WE LOOK AT THIS, THE IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO DO IS TO NOT DRAW WHEN IT'S NEGATIVE, AND THEN WHEN IT'S POSITIVE OR NEAR POSITIVE, SLOWLY, UH, UNWRAP SOME OF THOSE FUNDS FROM OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO IN A TIMELY MANNER SO THAT IT DOESN'T INCUR ANY UNNECESSARY REALIZED LOSSES.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE ACTIVELY MONITORING THAT, BUT THAT THIS IS TO HELP EXPLAIN WHY THERE MAY HAVE BEEN THAT HUGE SWING
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OF 4.5 THAT, WELL, WHY DIDN'T WE BUDGET IT? WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD HAPPEN, AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IT'LL BE THERE TOMORROW.YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDING, IS THAT ALL EXPECTATIONS WERE THAT THE FED WAS GONNA CUT THE RATE LIKE TWO OR THREE TIMES THIS YEAR? CORRECT.
AND NOW THE EXPECTATIONS IS ONLY ONCE.
SO, AND THAT'S, THAT SEEMS TO BE CHANGING BY THE DAY.
UM, THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT OBVIOUSLY IF WE WERE TO HAVE, UH, RATES BE CUT SIGNIFICANTLY IN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE COMING YEAR AS THE, THE FED CHAIR, UH, ROTATES OFF, UH, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT WE MIGHT BE HOLDING VERY VALUABLE INVESTMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE HIGH YIELDS WHEN THE NEXT YIELDING INVESTMENT IS NOT AS, UH, PROFITABLE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT WOULD INVEST THAT.
WE WANNA BACK TO ZERO AGAIN, BUT I, I DON'T MEAN TO ELONGATE THIS KIND.
UH, SO THIS IS JUST TO SHOW, IT'S A VERY COMPLEX THING.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TAKING VERY LIGHTLY, BUT WE ALSO WOULD NOT RECOMMEND SPENDING IT IF WE WERE IN A POSITION LIKE WE WERE IN 2022.
UH, BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANNA REALIZE ANY UNNECESSARY LOSSES.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WERE WITH THE, UH, CITY'S RESERVE POLICY, UH, WE HAD A HEALTHY OPERATING RESERVE BALANCE THAT MET OUR RESERVE POLICY.
WE HAD ADDITIONALLY AN OPEP RESERVE BALANCE, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, UH, KIND OF AN INTERESTING, UH, ACRONYM FOR OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.
BUT THIS IS IN ESSENCE WHAT YOUR, UH, CURRENT, UH, AND CURRENTLY RETIRED AND FUTURE RETIREES PRIOR TO 2011 DO RECEIVE A BENEFIT, UH, A SUBSIDY FOR THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.
WE PAY UP TO HALF, DEPENDING ON THE AGE OF SERVICE.
UH, THIS REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT COST BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE ARE LIVING LONGER AND THAT PROBABLY WASN'T ENVISIONED TO LAST AS LONG AS IT HAS.
SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT HELPS OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS INVOLVED IN THE INCREASES INVOLVED OF WHY HAVING AN OLDER POPULATION ON OUR PLAN THAT KIND OF MAKES THE RISK POOL A LITTLE RISKIER.
UH, SO OUR INSURANCE PROVIDER WILL CHARGE US A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE HIGHER RISK INDIVIDUALS.
WE KEEP THIS MONEY ASIDE TO ASSURE BOND HOLDERS, UH, AND THE RATING AGENCIES THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE INTENDING ON ADDRESSING, BUT WE DON'T WANNA DO SO IN A WAY THAT WOULD LOCK THESE FUNDS AWAY FROM USE.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, THE ASSIGNED BALANCE THERE, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR BUDGETARY AND NON BUDGETARY BASISES OR BASISES, WHICHEVER THE APPROPRIATE TERM IS, UH, IS ABOUT 10 MILLION.
THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE PROVIDENCE PLACE, UH, GRANT.
UM, SO THINGS THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO BUT NOT YET SPENT.
SO WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANNA SPEND IT TWICE.
UH, AND THEN WE HAD AVAILABLE FOR USE OF 16,089,000 4 99.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THE SECOND QUARTER BUDGET RESOLUTION, BUT I DID WANT TO LOOK BACK REAL QUICK AND SHOW YOU OVER TIME, THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER NUMBER IN 21 AND 22.
THAT'S TRADITIONALLY THE WAY IT LOOKS, UH, AND IT HAD LOOKED FOR THE PAST 10 TO 15 YEARS.
SO THE LAST TWO YEARS WERE VERY MUCH AN ABERRATION DRIVEN ENTIRELY BY TRANSITORY REVENUES AND THE MARKET MOVING AT A FAR GREATER PACE IN WAYS THAT PEOPLE COULD NOT HAVE FORESEEN.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, I WANTED TO GO BACK INTO AND SHOW YOU, WE LOOKED AT 24, SO THIS IS THE SAME EXERCISE, BUT WITH 23, UH, 23, YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE SECOND LINE, THE FAIR MARKET VALUE ADJUSTMENT.
SIMILAR STORY, NOT MONEY THAT WE TYPICALLY WANNA REALIZE IF IT'S STILL NEGATIVE.
SO WE DON'T TYPICALLY BUDGET OR ACCOUNT FOR IT IN OUR BUDGET, UH, PROCESS, UH, YOUR ELECTRIC FRANCHISE AND UTILITY TAX, WHEN WE HAD THE REALLY NASTY STORMS ON THE WEST SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE STATE, UH, FPL ASKED THE PSC TO ALLOW THEM TO CHARGE EVERYBODY IN THE STATE IN ADDITIONAL, SOME ODD PERCENTAGE THAT GETS TACKED ONTO THE FRANCHISE FEE AND UTILITY TAX.
UH, THOSE DECISIONS OFTEN HAPPEN IN VERY, UM, OPAQUE SOMETIMES WAYS.
THEY DO HAVE THE PSE DOCKETS, AND I DO TRY TO MONITOR THOSE AS BEST I CAN.
BUT, UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THEY APPROVE A STORM SURCHARGE IS A RATHER QUICK PROCESS.
SO THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AT THE TIME.
UM, EARNED INTEREST, OBVIOUSLY HIGHER RATES, MORE INTEREST.
UH, THE ROSE RATES, I THINK IS THE FASTEST THEY'D EVER DONE SINCE THE EIGHTIES.
AT LEAST IT WASN'T DURING MY LIFETIME AT LEAST.
UM, AND THEN BEYOND THAT, WE HAD SOME OPERATING EXPENDITURE SAVINGS FROM JUST HIGHER THAN AVERAGE VACANCIES, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE WORLD INFL FLUMMOX WITH ALL THE POST PANDEMIC AND SUPPLY CHAIN RELATED ISSUES.
UH, IT WAS A CHALLENGING TIME, BUT IT DID PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL SAVINGS.
SO BETWEEN THOSE TWO YEARS, AND TO GO BACK TO MY FLIPPANT REMARK FROM THE 13TH MEETING OF JUST BEING REALLY GOOD AT MY JOB, UH, THIS IS THE REAL REASON AND WHY I WANTED TO WALK THROUGH THIS COMPREHENSIVELY WITH YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE WERE NOT ITEMS THAT WE DID NOT TRY TO CONTEMPLATE, BUT THEY WERE ALSO THE TYPE OF ITEMS THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO NECESSARILY BUILD OUR FOUNDATION ON.
SO, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UH, YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, UH, SIMILAR TO THE BAR GRAPHS THAT SHOWED THE VERY SMALL AVAILABLE FOR BA AVAILABLE BA FUND BALANCE, UM, THAT SINCE 2018, THAT FIRST BOX THERE, IT SAYS THE CITY'S MANAGED TO FUND ANNUALLY HALF A MILLION TO 1 MILLION IN DEFERRED CAPITAL NEEDS IN THIS MANNER.
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THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW ODD THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN.UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS OUR ONLY CAPITAL PLAN FUNDING SOURCE.
THERE ARE NO OTHER DEDICATED CAPITAL PLAN FUNDING SOURCES OTHER THAN THESE SAVINGS.
SO IF WE ARE BEING CONSERVATIVE, WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PRESERVE OUR CAPITAL PLAN, OUR CAPITAL PLAN FUNDING SOURCES.
SO JUST A REMINDER OF HOW WE, WE TYPICALLY ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.
SO WHERE DID ALL THAT MONEY GO? COUNCIL WOULD'VE APPROVED THE SECOND QUARTER BUDGET RESOLUTION BACK ON THE 13TH.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO FUND A NUMBER OF VERY CRITICAL, UH, PROJECTS THAT WERE, UH, VERY MUCH NEEDED.
WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A HANDFUL OF THESE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UH, IN PARTICULAR IN THE ONE THAT, UH, VICE MAYOR NEWMAN WAS.
I, I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING OUT THE 8.2 MILLION.
THE, THE STATION 72 FUNDING'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, IF YOU LOOK FORWARD A BIT, UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO DO ANYWHERE, LIKE FOR FIRE STATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF ANY AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, I'M ONLY GONNA HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT I CAN BOND BEFORE I NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CITY'S BOND RATING AND CAUSE ADDITIONAL ISSU, UH, ISSUANCE COSTS AND ADDITIONAL INTEREST COSTS.
UH, AT THIS TIME WHEN, WHEN A STATION WAS ORIGINALLY FORECASTED IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN TO COST BETWEEN THREE AND 4 MILLION, THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOW MORE LIKE 13 TO 16 MILLION.
SO JUST TO PRESERVE THE ABILITY TO DO MORE THAN JUST STATION 72, THIS WAS A NECESSARY MANEUVER, UH, TO MAKE US WHOLE UNTIL WE REACH THE POINT WHERE SOME OTHER DEBT WILL COME OFFLINE, AND THEN I CAN REPLACE THAT DEBT SERVICE WITHOUT IMPACTING YOUR OTHER GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS NEGATIVELY.
UH, MOVING ALONG, UH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH OUR, OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES, AND WHAT I'M SEEING, UH, THIS IS GONNA CORRELATE A LITTLE BIT WITH WHAT WE SAW IN SOME OF THE VARIANCES, UH, COMMUNICATION SERVICE TAX.
SOME PEOPLE OWE HULU, DISNEY PLUS PEACOCK, EVERYTHING.
UH, WHAT WE'VE TRADITIONALLY SEEN IN THIS CAT IN THIS CATEGORY OF REVENUE IS ACTUALLY A, A DECLINE.
UM, WHEN YOU GO BACK TO 2015, YOU PROBABLY SAW A TRADITIONAL BROADCOM CARRIER THAT WAS THE BULK OF THIS REVENUE STREAMS TAXABLE ENTITY, UH, SINCE THE CORD CUTTING ERROR OCCURRED AND PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO GET INTO ALL THESE NEW APPS, WHICH SEEMED TO MULTIPLY BY THE DAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE BEGAN TO SEE KIND OF A SHIFT IN WHO WAS PAYING THIS TAX.
AND WHEN I LOOK FOR, UH, SOME OF THE TRENDS UNDERNEATH, UH, WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE A MATURATION OF THE STREAMING SERVICES MARKET.
SO WHERE YOU MAY HAVE PAID $7 IN 2017 FOR NETFLIX, I IMAGINE IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO 20 TO 25.
SO JUST TO KIND OF HAMMER THAT POINT FORWARD, THIS IS NOT MY WORK, BUT I DID FIND IT AND THOUGHT IT WAS RATHER HELPFUL.
YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE HISTORICAL RATES FOR EACH OF THE VARIOUS STREAMING SERVICES WHEN THEY CAME ALIGNED, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR OR TWO, THEY'VE BEGUN INCREASING AS PEOPLE HAVE BECOME HOOKED, AND THEY HAVE A VALUED AND, UH, STABLE CUSTOMER BASE.
SO, LIKEWISE, WE CHARGE, UH, OUR COMMUNICATION SERVICE TAX ON THOSE, UH, VARIOUS SERVICES.
UH, SO WE HAVE SEEN VERY POSITIVE MOMENTUM HERE, AND IT'S MY INTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BUILT APPROPRIATELY INTO OUR BUDGET.
UH, LOOKING BACK AT THE FP AND L BILLS, UH, WHEN WE WERE GOING INTO 25 THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT LARGE DIP DOWNWARD, UH, THAT WAS AS, UH, PREVIOUS, UH, INTERIM STORM CHARGES CAME OFF OF YOUR BILLS.
SO, BACK TO JUST THE BASE TARIFF, WHAT THE PSC ALLOWS THEM TO CHARGE, UH, THIS RECENT YEAR, THEY PUT ON A NEW TARIFF, UH, UH, OR NEW, UH, INTERIM STORM CHARGE OF, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS CLOSE TO 10 TO 12%.
SO THAT'S DUE TO EXPIRE COME DECEMBER.
SO, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR RATES WILL BE MOVING FORWARD, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VERY PUBLIC AND VERY PAINFUL PROCESS OF SAYING WHAT THEIR COSTS ARE AND WHAT RATES THEY NEED TO COVER THOSE COSTS.
UH, AND COINCIDENTALLY, THEY HAVE SAID THAT IT WOULD, AT THE TIME THAT THIS TEAR, THIS ADDITIONAL, UH, SURCHARGE COMES OFF, THEY'D LIKE TO CONTINUE CHARGING IT.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY COOL FOR THEM THAT THEY CAN SNEAK IN A 10 TO 12% RATE INCREASE ON THE FIRST YEAR, UH, WITHOUT ANYBODY REALIZING IT BECAUSE OF THE STORM SURCHARGE.
UH, BUT BEYOND THAT POINT, IT'S A RATHER MUTED INCREASE.
THAT'S VERY, VERY CPI KIND OF BASED.
SO JUST IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY'S BUDGET TO TOMORROW'S, IT'S GONNA BE A RELATIVELY FLAT REVENUE STREAM.
UH, AND TYPICALLY WHEN THE PSC IS LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS THE MOST IT CAN BE.
UH, THEY CAN ONLY GO DOWN FROM HERE AND THEY HAVE TRADITIONALLY NOT RECEIVED THEIR TOP ASK.
SO THIS WILL COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO BASICALLY REASSURE ME THAT WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN THE SAME BALLPARK AND REVENUE STREAMS FOR ELECTRIC UTILITY AND FRANCHISE FEES.
SO NOTHING LIKE THE PRIOR YEARS WHERE WE HAD THOSE BIG SPIKES.
THE, UH, COMMISSION, UH, CAN THEY COME TOGETHER AT ANY TIME AND, AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS AT ANY, AT ANY GIVEN TIME AS WELL TOO? I BELIEVE THE PROCESS IS MEANT TO PROVIDE THE SECURITY TO THOSE UTILITY COMPANIES, THE ABILITY TO RECOVER THEIR COSTS.
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DO IS, HERE IS YOUR GAME PLAN, IF YOU DEVIATE FROM YOUR GAME PLAN MORE THAN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, I BELIEVE, UH, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND HERE.THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COUN, THE, THE COMMISSION AND BASICALLY DESCRIBE WHAT'S WRONG, HOW IT'S GONE DIFFERENTLY, AND WHAT'S THEIR CORRECTIVE ACTION.
SO THEY DO HAVE SOME S GUARDRAILS PUT INTO PLACE.
THERE IS A PROCESS THEY JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY, THEY WERE SNEAKY ABOUT SOME CERTAIN THINGS BEFORE.
SO IT'S NOT A MIDNIGHT VOTE THEN.
RIGHT? WELL, I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, JUST GOING FROM DI DECEMBER TO JANUARY FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT, JUST WATCH YOUR, WATCH YOUR BILL AND SEE IF IT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN.
UH, I, I WOULD BE VERY CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THIS, THIS PLAYS OUT.
UM, YOU CAN WATCH OUR BILLS, UH OH, I SEE.
IF IT GOES DOWN, IT'S NOT GREAT
UH, SO A LITTLE BIT WHY YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE SPIKE THERE BEHIND THE, UH, DECREASE, UH, GOING INTO THE 25 CYCLE NATURAL GAS PRICES, UH, THEY SPIKED TO HISTORIC HIGHS, UH, BACK DURING THE POST PANDEMIC SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, UH, ROUGHLY AROUND THE SAME TIME THAT THE UK RUSSIAN WAR, UH, KICKED OFF.
UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS A RETURN TO NORMAL THERE.
AND JUST AS WHAT MR. LARISSA WAS ASKING HERE, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OVERCORRECTION, THEY WERE COLLECTING TOO MUCH REVENUE TO COVER THEIR NATURAL GAS COSTS, THEY ACTUALLY REDUCED THE RATES.
THAT WAS THAT DECREASE WE STARTED SEEING GOING INTO THE 25 FISCAL YEAR.
SO WITHOUT ANY SORT OF SIGNIFICANT MOVEMENT HERE, UH, WHAT WILL BE DONE IN THE TARIFF, UH, THE NEW ONE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO CHARGE FOR THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS SHOULD BE RATHER STABLE OUTSIDE OF ANY STORM RELATED CHARGES.
UH, SO WHAT THE, YOU'RE LOOKING HERE ON THIS GRAPH IS THAT THE BLUE, UH, BLUE BARS CORRELATE TO THE LEFT AXIS.
SO THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED IN TERMS OF SALES TAX DISTRIBUTIONS.
UH, THE ORANGE LINE THAT'S GOING WITH THE RIGHT AXIS IS TO SHOW YOU THE AMOUNT OF TAXABLE SALES THAT WE HAVE IN THE STATUS THROUGH MARCH.
UH, THE DOR IS A LITTLE BEHIND ON RELEASING SOME OF THE MORE RECENT MONTHS THAT I'M MORE LITTLE INTERESTED IN KIND OF GETTING A SENSE OF, UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS YOU CAN SEE THAT WHERE THE BLACK OVAL IS, INSTEAD OF MIRRORING WHERE THOSE BAR GRAPHS ARE, THEY'RE STARTING TO DIVERGE A LITTLE BIT.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE MAY SEE THE SAME NUMBER OF SALES IN THE COUNTY.
YOU MAY SEE AN INCREASE IN THE SALES IN THE COUNTY, BUT BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION BASED FORMULA, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING A DECREASE IN REVENUE.
SO IT MIGHT BE GOING GREAT, THE ECONOMY MAY BE HUMMING ALONG, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE'RE GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR IT.
UH, SEEING THE GROWTH IN PALM BAY, SEEING THE GROWTH IN VERE AND SOME OF THE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF THE COUNTY, WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MATCH PACE.
WE'RE A MOSTLY BUILT OUT COMMUNITY THAT'S RELYING ON INFILL AND A HANDFUL OF UNDEVELOPED TRACKS.
UH, AND AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE OF THOSE POPULATION DIFFERENTIALS OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING A DECREASE IN THIS REVENUE STREAM.
UM, SO IT APPEARS THAT, THAT, UH, DURING THE CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE TALLAHASSEE IS, IS STARTING TO PULL BACK ON THE PA ON THE, THEY'RE PAUSING THE SALES TAX, UH, REDUCTION AT THIS MOMENT.
SO THAT THAT'S, SO IT WON'T BE A, A DOUBLE HIT.
UH, BASICALLY, ARE YOU SEEING THE SAME TIME, ARE YOU HEARING THE SAME? THAT'S GENERALLY A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY.
UH, SO THEY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THAT FROM THE OPERATING FUNDS FOR THE STATE, UH, WHAT THESE SALES TAX DISTRIBUTIONS FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS STEAL FROM US THOUGH.
THEY, THEY, THEY REDUCE THEIR STATE AND THEN THEY COME AFTER THE CITIES.
IF I'M LOOKING THERE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING THE OTHER WAY.
SO, UH, 6 0 1, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WORTH KEEPING AN EYE ON, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PROPOSED, UH, IT WOULD'VE REDUCED THE STATE'S OPERATING BUDGET, NOT OURS.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OLD LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS TO PRESERVE A LEVEL OF SALES TAX FUNDING.
SO THAT RELATED, UH, BONDING, UM, FOR, UH, DEBT THAT USES AND SECURES THROUGH THIS REVENUE STREAM CANNOT BE AFFECTED NEGATIVELY.
SO THIS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO LOBBY FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, SO MOVING ON FROM THAT, UH, SIMILAR POPULATION BASED TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT'S NEGATIVE.
THE LOCAL OPTION, GAS TAX, WHICH PARTIALLY FUNDS YOUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT DECREASES IN IT.
BUT THIS IS BOTH THE RESULT OF THE POPULATION GROWTH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.
UH, BUT AS WELL AS, UH, A LACK OF TRANSPORTATION EXPENDITURES WHEN COMPARED TO OUR PEERS.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE GET LATER ON IN THIS INTO MY SLIDE DECK.
UH, BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE POTENTIAL TO LOSE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT BY VIRTUE OF THINGS THAT ARE GENERALLY OUT OF OUR CONTROL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION EXPENDITURES, ONE OF THE POSITIVES, BUT LET IT, YOU KNOW, IT CHANGES BY THE DAY.
YOU HAVE YOUR SHORT TERM VERSUS LONG TERM PORTFOLIO PERFORMANCE HERE.
UH, AS YOU SAW THE BLUE LINE INCREASE, WE MOVED A LOT OF OUR FUNDS INTO A SLIGHTLY MORE LIQUID POSITION, SO WE COULD CAPTURE THAT RISE IN VALUE.
UH, NOW THAT WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE PORTFOLIO KIND OF TURNOVER THAT, THAT ONE YEAR THREE QUARTER MARK, YOU'VE, YOU, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REINVEST THOSE AT HIGHER YIELDS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ENJOY HIGHER INTEREST INCOME OVER TIME.
HOWEVER, AS WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT, WITH FAIR MARKET VALUE, IF YOU HAVE A FED CHAIR
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THAT'S IN THE MINDS TO CUT THINGS TO ZERO, THAT GOES AWAY.SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I AM BUILDING THE FOUNDATION WITH THAT I DIDN'T TYPICALLY WOULDN'T.
BUT IT'S WORTH AT LEAST INCORPORATING THE IDEA THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE ENOUGH, UH, PORTFOLIO PERCENTAGES AT SOME LENGTH OF TERM THAT IT'LL IMPACT US AT A LATER FISCAL YEAR THAN 26.
UH, LOOKING AT OUR EXPENDITURE SIDE, THIS IS A, A GRAPH SHOWING OFFICER STARTING PAY.
OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS A BIG, UH, HIGHLIGHT OF THE PAST COUPLE YEARS HERE.
UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE COUNTY, WE STILL LOOK BY ALL KNOWN NUMBERS TO ME, UH, TO BE THE SECOND HIGHEST IN THE COUNTY.
UH, THAT'LL CONTINUE INTO 2026.
UH, THE COUNTY OBVIOUSLY ENJOYS A GREATER RESOURCE POOL AND, UH, A, A PRETTY SIZABLE BUDGET.
UM, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT I NEED TO UPDATE YOU ON THIS IS THAT THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE, I BELIEVE, JUST DID A 7% RAISE.
THAT'LL STILL KEEP THEM BEHIND THE CITY OF COCO.
UM, WORTH MENTIONING THOUGH, THAT THE ABILITY TO DO THIS COMES AT A COST, UH, THIS YEAR, BASED OFF OF SOME OF THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS WE WORKED LOOKED AT AND THROUGH IS GONNA BE ABOUT 1.3 MILLION, ADDITIONALLY TO THE BUDGET GOING INTO 26.
UM, THERE IS ONE LITTLE POSITIVE IN THERE THAT, UH, THE PENSION CONTRIBUTION COSTS HAVE COME DOWN, BUT IT'S CLOUDED BY THE FACT THAT THE PERFORMANCE IN THE VARIOUS PENSION FUNDS HAS BEEN NEGATIVE SO FAR THIS YEAR.
SO IF THEY DO NOT MEET THE ASSUMED RATE OF RETURN, THAT MEANS THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR, IT GOES BACK UP.
SO IT'S PROBABLY A FLASH IN THE PAN FOR THE MOMENT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH MOVING FORWARD TO FIREFIGHTER EMT STARTING PAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER WITHOUT CONTRACT OR THEY NEGOTIATE YEAR TO YEAR.
UH, WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT WE HAVE THE, UH, MOST COMPETITIVE PACKAGE OF ITEMS, UH, BASED OFF OF OUR PEERS HERE.
UH, BUT IT DOES COME AT A SIGNIFICANT COST.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $1.8 MILLION INCREASE TO RECURRING COSTS GOING FROM THIS BUDGET CYCLE TO THE NEXT.
UM, OH, JUST JUMPED FORWARD REALLY FAR.
SO, AGAIN, GREAT NEWS, BUT IT STILL COMES WITH THE PRICE TAG AND ROSS.
UM, TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, THESE THREE YEAR CONTRACTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EVERYBODY'S CHASING EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO, UH, THE COUNTY IS $65 ABOVE US.
I MEAN, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, JUST RAW NUMBERS THAT YOU SHOWED BEFORE, CORRECT.
SO NOW THE, THE NEXT CONTRACT PERIOD, WE MAY BE ABLE TO BUMP UP OR WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK LIKE, AND THE COUNTY WILL COME IN AGAIN WITH ANOTHER A HUNDRED DOLLARS OVER WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE COUNTY IS IF SEEN, IF WE DO ANYTHING, THEY'RE JUST GONNA DO A DOLLAR HIGHER.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE LITERALLY PLAYING THE PRICES RIGHT, WITH THE COUNTY? ABSOLUTELY.
THE, THE, THE COOLEST KID ON THE BLOCK AT THE TIME, USUALLY.
UH, SO MOVING ON TO NON-UNION COMPENSATION, UH, WE DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO PAY POINT HR.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA PERFORM THIS STUDY WITH ENOUGH TIME TO HOPEFULLY HAVE IT IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO, UH, THE BUDGET YEAR BEGINNING.
UH, JUST AS A FRAME OF REFERENCE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE SAME EXERCISE PRIOR TO, UH, THE, UH, INCREASE IN WAGES, INFLATION, POST PANDEMIC, ALL THAT STUFF, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AT THAT TIME WERE BETWEEN, UH, 750,000 TO 1.2 MILLION.
UH, AND GENERALLY, IF YOU'RE ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM SOME LEVEL OF, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS HAS GOTTEN TO BE VERY TEMPERAMENTAL, BUT I'M GONNA HANDLE IT AS BEST I CAN.
UH, BUT ONE THING THAT USUALLY COMES WITH THIS, THE CITY OF TITUSVILLE DID THIS LAST YEAR, UH, COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, UH, IS USUALLY DONE OUTSIDE OF THAT COMP AND CLASS STUDY TO ENSURE THAT IF YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE THAT DOES NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM THAT STUDY, YOU STILL HAVE SOME LEVEL OF INCREASE TO KEEP PACE WITH INFLATION.
AND MY APOLOGIES, I'M NOT SURE IF THE WIRE IS DECIDING IT'S CALLING IT QUITS.
UM, OTHER, UH, EMPLOYEE RELATED, UM, PERSONNEL COSTS.
UH, THIS IS OUR MEDICAL LOSS RATIO.
OBVIOUSLY, MEDICAL INSURANCE HAS BEEN A, A TOPIC OF, OF DISCUSSION FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
WE'VE HAD AN INCREDIBLY HIGH ELEVATED MEDICAL LOSS RATIO.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE INSURER'S LOSING MONEY ON US.
UM, SO FOR THEIR BUSINESS, UH, DEALINGS, THEY AREN'T HAPPY ABOUT IT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA TRY AND RAISE THEIR RATES SO THAT THEY CAN COVER OUR COSTS, UM, IN A WAY THAT IS SUFFICIENT FOR THEIR BUSINESS NEEDS.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT A TARGET OF 80% MLR, UM, AND WE'RE STILL KIND OF HOVERING AROUND THAT LOW TO MID NINETIES RATE, EVEN AFTER WE'VE GONE THROUGH SUCCESSIVE RATE INCREASES OF 16.4% AND 20.44%.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY NEEDING YET ANOTHER DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASE.
WE DO HAVE AN RFP THAT WILL BE GOING OUT AT SOME POINT THIS YEAR.
I DID HAVE THE REQUEST IN FROM OUR HR DEPARTMENT FOR SOME OF THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FROM THE PRIOR GO.
AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE A GOOD COLLEGE, TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE.
BUT IT WILL COME AT AN ADDITIONAL COST TO SOME SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
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SOME OF OUR OTHER KNOWNS AND UNKNOWNS AT THIS POINT.UH, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH OUR RIGHT OF WAY MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.
UH, IT'S BECOME MORE AND MORE COSTLY TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY DO THIS WORK.
UH, WE'D LOVE TO BRING IT INTERNALLY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AT A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.
HOWEVER, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FILL POSITIONS THAT PAY THE SAME AS SOMEBODY WHO COULD SIT IN THE AIR CONDITIONING ALL DAY INSTEAD OF MOWING ON A, ON A ROADSIDE.
UM, WE DID HAVE A BID OPENING FOR THAT.
UH, I DON'T HAVE THE RESULTS AS OF YET, AND I DO NOT WISH TO SPOIL THAT PROCESS.
SO WE'LL KEEP YOU IN TOUCH AS, AS THAT MOVES FORWARD.
UH, COUNSEL WOULD'VE APPROVED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, THE HIGHER, UH, PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCES, THAT WAS THE RENEWAL WITH FMT.
UM, THIS IS ALSO DRIVEN BY AN ASSET, UH, INVENTORY THAT THEY DO.
BASICALLY, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE COVERING WHAT WE SAID THEY WERE COVERING.
UH, AND THE GENERAL FUND WAS NOT PAYING ITS PORTION, ITS PROPORTIONATE SHARE.
UH, SO WE DID SEE AN INCREASE THERE AS WELL.
UH, ONE POSITIVE NOTE, UH, OUR GOLF COURSES ARE PERFORMING WELL.
UH, WE HAVE SEEN THE HIGHER RATES, UH, ALSO BE PAIRED WITH HIGHER NUMBER OF ROUNDS PLAYED SINCE THE LAST FULL YEAR OF OPERATION FOR BOTH OF THOSE COURSES.
UH, SO IN 25, WE WOULD'VE SEEN A $700,000 SUBSIDY FROM GENERAL FUND REVENUES TO KEEP THE OPERATIONS OF THE GOLF COURSE MOVING FORWARD.
UH, WE DON'T BELIEVE WE WILL NEED ALL OF THAT.
HOWEVER, THIS IS ONLY ONE YEAR DATA.
SO ONE DATA POINT DOESN'T MAKE A TREND.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE MONITORING IT CAREFULLY, BUT WE HOPE TO HAVE A MUCH LESSER, UH, NEED TO RELY ON THE GENERAL FUND MOVING FORWARD.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME MORE DATA POINTS IN THE SUMMER WHEN COSTS ARE TYPICALLY HIGH AND REVENUES ARE TYPICALLY LOW, UH, OUR ADMIN CHARGES TO OTHER FUNDS, UH, WILL IMPACT SOME OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE NON-UNION COMPENSATION.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE VARIOUS FUNDS THE CITY HAS, I SPEND SOME OF MY TIME WORKING ON THE WATER AND SEWER FUND.
SO SOME OF MY SALARY GETS CHARGED TO THE WATER AND SEWER FUND.
SO AS WE LOOK THROUGH IT, SOME OF THE NUMBERS MAY BE ABLE TO SHIFT DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE PROVIDED FROM EACH DEPARTMENT TO THOSE VARIOUS FUNDS THAT ARE NOT THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, AND THEN, UH, DISAPPOINTINGLY IT OPERATING AND CAPITAL COSTS REMAIN, UH, TROUBLING.
UH, WE HAD INITIALLY RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THAT DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE ON THEIR BUDGET.
THAT'S ALREADY BEEN A DEPARTMENT THAT HAS SEEN SUCCESSIVE INCREASES IN THEIR BUDGET.
AND YET, LEVEL OF SERVICE CONTINUES TO BECOME MORE AND MORE DISMAL.
UM, THE CAPITAL COSTS THAT WE SAW THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SECOND QUARTER BUDGET RESOLUTION, WE OPTED TO PAY $500,000 TO REFRESH SOME SERVERS THAT HOST OUR ERP SYSTEMS. UH, THOSE ERP SYSTEMS, UH, ARE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE PRESSURE FROM OUR VENDOR TO MOVE INTO A SAAS, A SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE MODEL, WHERE WE DO NOT HOST IT, THEY HOST IT.
HOWEVER, UH, THAT COST COMES AT THREE TO TWO TIMES THE CURRENT RATE OF SERVICE THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR.
SO TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA GO WELL OVER BUDGET, UH, IN THE COMING YEARS, WE WANTED TO SAVE $1.5 MILLION BY ENSURING THAT WE KEEP OUR ON-PREMISES ERP, UH, AT LEAST UNTIL THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO MOVE TO SAAS.
SO THAT WAY WE ARE DELAYING THAT COST AS LONG AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
UM, SO I UNDERLINED ALMOST HALF OF YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN MY REVIEW, UH, CONCERNING IT.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN FROM, UH, DAY ONE, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE RANSOM WEATHER WEAR AND, AND ALL THE, ALL THE BAD THINGS THAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, TO ALL, UH, ALL OF US OUT THERE, UH, AND WHAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH.
AND SO, UH, UH, THE THING THAT I, I, I GUESS I'M, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED FURTHER INCREASING TO CITY TO PERFORM THE IT MASTER PLAN AND GAP ANALYSIS THAT WAS FUNDED IN 2024, CORRECT? THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.
THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED AS OF YET.
WHY DO YOU, ALRIGHT, I, I WILL TAX'S ANOTHER QUESTION WAY OVER ONE-ON-ONE.
I DON I DON'T NEED TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BUT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT EIGHT HOURS, MAYBE CONSOLIDATE INTO SIX, UH, THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT, BUT I AM CONCERNED, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR IT, UM, DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND WE HAVE COME IN, UH, RECENT, UM, EMPLOYEE SURVEY MM-HMM
UH, THAT, UH, UH, MS. SANDERS, UH, UH, SPEARHEADED, UH, THAT WE COME IN SECOND TO LAST ON SE ON 70 BENCHMARKS, UH, BENCHMARKED ENTITIES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHERS, UH, WHAT THE 70 ARE MM-HMM
SO I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE, THE OTHER 68 ARE BEFORE I KNOW WHAT THE, THE 69TH AND 70TH ARE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER ONES ARE, BUT I WILL, BUT I'LL FIND OUT THAT FROM, FROM MRS. LIAM.
BUT I'M CONCERNED, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS IT AREA AND THE MASTER, UH, IT MASTER PLAN AND GAP ANALYSIS THAT WE FUNDED, BUT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT SOME OF IT OH, OKAY.
I, I DIDN'T WANT TO, JENNY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE ARE IN, I'LL SAY IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT DOING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THAT, I HAVE
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ALREADY MENTIONED TO OUR NEW DEPUTY CITY MANAGER THAT SHE WOULD BE HELPING SPEARHEAD THAT EFFORT, THAT TIME YOU SHOWED UP ANDSO WE, WE HAVEN'T MADE PROGRESS YET, BUT IT IS, IT'S, THE WHEELS ARE ALREADY TURNING.
CAN SHE GET DONE BY THAT TIME IN TWO DAYS? SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE TWO YEARS AGO.
SO IF ANYBODY'S BEEN KEEPING TALLY, I DIDN'T GIVE EXACT NUMBERS HERE, BUT I WANTED TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A, A SCOPE TO IT.
UH, WHEN LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE REVENUES AND, AND KNOWN INCREASES AND DECREASES, WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.8 MILLION ROUGHLY, UH, IN TERMS OF KNOWN INCREASES.
ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 6.7, QUITE A CONSIDERABLE GAP.
BUT I WILL EXPLAIN PROPERTY TAXES HERE IN JUST A SECOND.
UH, YOU SAW A SLIDE SIMILAR TO THIS, UH, IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET PREPARATION CYCLES.
UH, THIS IS TO SHOW IN BLUE, THAT'S THE CITY OF MELBOURNE'S GROSS TAXABLE VALUE.
UH, THE ORANGE THERE IS THE CITY OF PALM BAYS.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY LEAPFROGGED THERE IN 23 AND, UH, CONTINUE TO PULL AWAY.
UH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT MULTIPLE TIMES, UH, WE ARE AN INFILL CITY AT THIS POINT.
THERE'S ONLY REDEVELOPMENT, NOT A LOT OF JUST PURE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'D BE NICE IF WE HAD BIG OPEN TRACKS OF LAND TO PUT DOWN TICKY-TACKY HOUSES THAT ARE ALL THE SAME, BUT WE DO NOT.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE LOOKING AT A FINANCIAL REALITY WHERE THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS GONNA HAVE MORE RESOURCES TO THROW AROUND THAN WE DO SIMILAR TO THE COUNTY.
AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND LOOKING FORWARD.
I, AGAIN, JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE IS THAT, AGAIN, COMING OUT OF, UH, THE, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW IS THE PROPOSED THE REDUCTION OF PROPERTY TAX, IF NOT THE TOTAL ELIMINATION.
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS LATER ON IS THAT WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THIS REVENUE, TO THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, REVENUE VERSUS EXPEN, UH, EXPENDITURE COMPARISON.
HOW WOULD WE REPLACE THOSE FUNDS IF THAT ACTUALLY WENT TO, UH, TO, UH, UH, TO THE BALLOT AND ACTUALLY PASSED? SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, FIRE AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, UH, AND, UH, POLICE FEES THAT WOULD BE TACKED ON IT.
ANYWAY, SO THIS IS GONNA BE ANOTHER SET OF QUESTIONS I'M GONNA HAVE FOR YOU.
WHERE'S THE REPLACEMENT? 'CAUSE IT'S A VERY REAL THING THAT'S HAPPENING UP THERE IS THE REPLACEMENT, IF NOT THE REDUCTION, IF NOT THE REDUCTION, BUT THE REPLAY, BUT THE CONTINUED, UH, TAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY TAX COMPLETELY AWAY.
AND TO QUOTE ONE OF OUR SENATORS UP THERE, HE SAID, WELL, THE CITIES ARE FLUSHED WITH MONEY.
THEY'VE MADE 200 TO 300% MORE MONEY THAN THEY DID LAST YEAR.
SO I, I, I, I ASKED FOR A, FOR A MEETING WITH HIM, BUT HE, BUT HE REFUSED TO HAVE IT.
SO, SO IT, IT, IT'S A GOOD POINT.
AND IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, I'LL READDRESS THAT IN ABOUT TWO SLIDES, SIR.
SO, SO ROSS, ON THIS POINT HERE, JUST THINKING ABOUT, UH, WE, YOU TALKED ABOUT PALM BAY AND LEAPFROG AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, AND, AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD A SORT OF CONVERSATION, SO I JUST WANT SORT OF PUT IT OUT HERE.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WAYS YES, WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE LARGE TRACKS OF LANDS, BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WAYS OF THINGS THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO CONSIDER, ADDITIONAL WAYS OF INCREASING OUR REVENUE IN LIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE LARGE TRACKS OF LAND? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO TOUCH ON RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS LIKE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT KIND OF THINGS THAT VERY RARELY COME UP.
BUT WE MAY NEED TO BE A LITTLE INNOVATIVE AND THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX IN ORDER TO GET ADDITIONAL REVENUES COMING INTO THE COFFER.
SO IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, SAME KIND OF GENERAL COMMENT, GIMME ABOUT A SLIDE AND A HALF, AND I'LL GET TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
UH, SO THIS WAS GROSS TAXABLE VALUE.
THIS IS WHAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION TAXABLE VALUES ARE.
SO THE HIGHER YOUR NEW CONSTRUCTION TAXABLE VALUE IS, THE LESS YOU HAVE TO RAISE TAXES ON EXISTING RATE PAYERS.
AGAIN, WE ARE IN, BLUE PALM BAY IS IN ORANGE.
THEY HAVE ADDED ROUGHLY A COUPLE BILLION IN THE PAST THREE YEARS IN TAX, TAX TAXABLE VALUE.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, MUCH CLOSER TO THAT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR RANGE.
UM, AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT, UH, THIS IS THAT WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING TRIM LAWS AND NOTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, YOUR TAXES ONLY GO UP HALF A PERCENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS TO COUNTERBALANCE IT.
SO JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE, UH, COMPETING NEEDS WHEN WE, WE GO CITY TO CITY AND BENCHMARK.
SO TRYING TO LOOK FORWARD WITH IT, UH, THIS IS OUR BUILDING PERMIT ACTIVITY.
THIS IS THROUGH MAY OF EACH YEAR.
UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN TREND-WISE IS THE NUMBER OF PERMITS ISSUED THROUGH MAY HAVE DECREASED, HOWEVER, THE VALUATION HAS INCREASED.
NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THE VALUATIONS THAT INCREASED INCLUDED A LOT OF NON-TAXABLE LAND.
SO IF YOU THINK OF, UH, ANY SPACE FLORIDA LEASE FOR ANY AIRPORT TENANT, I CAN'T COLLECT TAXES ON THAT.
IF YOU THINK OF, UH, THE, THE NEW, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, I CAN'T COLLECT TAXES, TAXES ON THAT.
UH, THE NEW FIT DORM ROOM, I CAN'T COLLECT TAXES ON THAT EITHER.
SO I'M AT A LOSS WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, TRYING TO MEET THE SAME LEVEL OF RESOURCES THAT
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SOME OF OUR, OUR CITIES AROUND US CAN, CAN BRING TO BEAR.SO WE, AS, AS YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE ELECTED IN OFFICE AND GO TO THE AIRPORT AND ARE HERE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING IN, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE, SO WE ENTICE THOSE COMPANIES BY SAYING, COME ON IN, WE'LL GIVE YOU A 10 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT, OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WHATEVER WE NEGOTIATE, OR FREE TAX FREE FOR LIFE, BECAUSE WE COUNT ON THE, A NUMBER OF JOBS THAT ARE GONNA COME IN 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 MORE JOBS THAT ARE GONNA ADD TO THE SALES TAX PROCESS.
SO NOW, SO, BUT, BUT YOU HEARD MY COMMENT POPULATION WISE, WE'RE NOW LOSING IN THE SALES TAX BATTLE.
SO REALISTICALLY, I MEAN, AS WE GO FORWARD, WE GOTTA RETHINK, WE GOTTA RETHINK OUR ECONOMIC PACKAGES AND HOW WE ATTRACT COMPANIES AND BUSINESSES IN THAT FASHION.
JUST, I'M, I'M MORE SOAP BOXING HERE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
SO, AND, AND I'M MORE SAYING FOR VERY FRUSTRATING.
I'M MORE SAYING FOR THE BENEFIT AS WELL OF THE MEMBERS WHO ALSO ARE ON THE AIRPORT BOARD.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN BREVARD COUNTY DOES NOT DIRECTLY BENEFIT YOUR GENERAL FUND.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING HERE OFF OF THE CONTRACTS FROM SPACE FLORIDA FOR NEW, NEW FACILITIES, THEY'RE LIVING IN VIRA, THEY'RE LIVING IN PALM BAY, THEY'RE COMMUTING INTO MELBOURNE.
SO THEY'RE USING OUR SERVICES AND NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, AS THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF, OF THE AIRPORT BOARD MM-HMM
I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S A CHALLENGING OPPORTUNITY, CHALLENGING DIFFERENCES OUT THERE FROM THOUGHT TO THOUGHT AND MEANING TO MEANING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA CHANGE.
WE GOT OLD GUARD OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, SO, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN, UH, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE JOBS AND HOPE THAT THAT TRICKLES DOWN.
REMEMBER THAT TERM TRICKLE DOWN.
I, I ONLY ISSUE THE NOTE OF CAUTION THAT IF, IF SOME OF THOSE ECONOMIC DRIVERS, UH, WERE REFLECTING IN MY NUMBERS IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY, I'M NOT SEEING THEM.
SO IT'S JUST WORTH NOTING THAT FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS.
UH, SO LOOKING BACK AT YOUR PREVIOUS 10 YEARS, UH, I'VE ADDED WATER AND SEWER RATES TO THIS.
JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL CONTEXT AS WELL.
'CAUSE THESE ARE THE TWO LARGEST THINGS THAT YOU ARE IMPACTING YOUR RESIDENTS WITH.
UH, PROPERTY TAX HISTORICALLY, AT LEAST GOING BACK THE PAST 10 YEARS, HAS BEEN AROUND FIVE TO 6% INCREASES EACH YEAR.
A COUPLE YEARS LOWER, A COUPLE YEARS HIGHER, UH, WATER AND SEWER.
YOU CAN SEE WE WENT THROUGH THAT VERY LONG DRY SPELL FROM 2016 THERE TO 2023, AND HAVE NEEDED TO, UH, AS PART OF THE RATE STUDY, THE MASTER PLANS, ENSURING THAT WE MEET OUR REGULATORY AND OTHER, UH, UH, PROCESSING REQUIREMENTS.
THAT DELAY OF INCREASES HAS CREATED THAT BACKLOG REQUIRING MULTIPLE SUCCESSIVE YEARS OF DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES.
UH, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE DEPARTING THE SYSTEM.
THEY ARE OUR LARGEST CUSTOMER AT 10% OF OUR REVENUE.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT WISE TO MAKE, UH, SMALLER ECONOMIES OF SCALE WHEN WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BUCKET, BUT THAT'S THE CHOICE THEY MADE.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 3% THAT WAS SLATED THERE FROM THE WATER RATE STUDY, UH, THAT WE PERFORMED TWO YEARS AGO, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH.
I KNOW THAT NOW I'VE TALKED WITH THEM BRIEFLY.
WE'RE NOT TO THE POINT OF GIVING YOU ANYTHING CONCRETE, BUT BASED OFF OF THE PROJECTS THAT MR. LEWIS HAS ALREADY REFERENCED BACK TO, THAT WENT FROM 7 MILLION BEFORE TO 28 20 9 MILLION.
NOW I CAN'T AFFORD THAT DEBT SERVICE AT THESE RATES.
SO WITH THAT CONSIDERATION, THE ONE GOOD THING THAT DID HAPPEN HERE IS BECAUSE PROPERTIES ONLY APPRECIATED VALUE, ROUGHLY 3.7% YEAR TO YEAR OUTSIDE OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION VALUES IN, IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, WE ARE LOOKING AT A SLIGHTLY LOWER TAX INCREASE THAN PRIOR YEARS.
IF YOU WENT WITH THE CURRENT RATE, WHICH IS REPRESENTED THERE AT THE 3.61.
SO WITH PROPERTY TAX, AND THIS IS GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE STATE'S DOING WITH PROPERTY TAX, THAT NUMBER LOOKS A LITTLE LESS DAUNTING GOING FROM 1.8 UP TO THE 6.7.
SO, UH, IF SAY FOR INSTANCE, WE DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY BY HAVING PROPERTY TAX AND THE ABIL, THE ABILITY AFFORDS US TO BE NIMBLE WITH OUR FINANCES.
IF, SAY FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD EVERYTHING AS IT WAS AND WE SWITCHED TO A SALES TAX, I CAN'T AFFORD LINE ONE, CAN'T AFFORD LINE TWO, CAN'T AFFORD LINE THREE, YOUR EMPLOYEES WILL SUFFER FOR IT AND WE WILL FALL BEHIND.
SO I AM VERY INTERESTED TO SEEING WHAT THE SELECT COMMITTEE COMES UP WITH FROM TALLAHASSEE.
UH, HOWEVER, I AM SKEPTICAL THAT THERE WILL BE A SUFFICIENT REPLACEMENT, UH, THAT WILL MEET, UH, THE NEEDS OF EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE AS IT CURRENTLY DOES.
AND ROSS, IF I COULD GIVE YOU THE SOFTBALL ON IT.
UM, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, ROSS, JENNY AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH REPRESENTATIVE MONIQUE MILLER AND FOLKS IN TALLAHASSEE.
SHE'S ON THE COMMITTEE THAT IS GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS.
AND OUR STAFF HAS BEEN VERY DILIGENT IN GIVING THEM INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THIS WILL AFFECT US.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING ON THAT.
AND I THINK THAT AT LEAST WE GOT SOME SORT OF A SEAT AT THE TABLE TO HELP OURSELVES, UM, AVOID ANY SORT OF FISCAL CLIFF, IF YOU WILL, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE VERY LIMITED 'CAUSE WE CAN'T RAISE OUR OWN TAXES, UH, LIKE A SALES TAX.
WE HAVE TO RELY ON THAT FORMULA.
SO WE BASICALLY HAVE TO FIGHT THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AS WE
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SPEAK.SO, WELL, I CERTAINLY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT GREAT WORK.
THANK, AND JENNY AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT REPRESENTATIVE MILLER, UH, UNDERSTANDS THE, THE IMPACT THAT WILL AFFECT HER COMMUNITY DOWN HERE AND NOT PLAY POLITICS IN TALLAHASSEE.
'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOING UP THERE RIGHT NOW AFTER TONIGHT.
POLITICS, SHE, SHE'S VERY AWARE THAT IT'LL TAKE OUT OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND WE ARE HOPING WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME SOLUTIONS, BUT I'M NOT IN THE ROOMS FOR ALL THAT STUFF.
AS I I SAY THIS GENUINELY, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SEVERITY OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD.
IF THEY WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE, MY INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CONSOLIDATE FIRE SERVICE WITH THE COUNTY.
I DON'T SEE US BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THAT MOVING FORWARD.
IF THAT'S THE, IF THAT'S THE, THE CHOSEN PATH.
THE COUNTY CAN'T AFFORD FIRE SERVICE.
THEY'RE INCREASING 37, 30 7% ACROSS THE BOARD ANYWAY.
UM, AGAIN, AGAIN, A MYRIAD OF PROBLEMS. UH, STAYING ON THIS, WE, WE, YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN.
ARE YOU GONNA GET TO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT? YES.
SO, UH, ONE THING I WANTED TO DO A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR.
UH, I COULD JUST SHOUT NUMBERS AT YOU, PUT THEM ON THE SCREEN, HOWEVER I LIKE AND HOPE IT, UH, STRIKES YOU THROUGH.
BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY KIND OF GLOSS OVER WITH.
UM, THAT'S SOME OF OUR POLICIES RELATING TO CAPITAL ASSETS.
UH, SO TO DO SO, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS, THIS IS EVERY FINANCE DIRECTOR THAT SUBSCRIBES TO THE GFOA, THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT FINANCIAL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
AND THE VARIOUS BEST PRACTICES THAT THEY ALLOW FOR, HERE ARE THE SIX BIG BULLET POINTS OF THOSE TYPES OF POLICIES THAT THEY RECOMMEND EACH CITY HAVE.
WE DO HAVE A FUND BALANCE POLICY.
WE DO HAVE AN INVESTMENT POLICY.
WE HAVE A REVENUE CONTROL SET OF INTERNAL CONTROLS.
WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL POLICY.
UH, WE DO HAVE A GRANTS PROCESS MEMORANDUM THAT OUTLINES HOW GRANTS WORK WITHIN THE CITY.
HOWEVER, WE DO NOT HAVE A CAPITAL PLANNING POLICY NOR A DEBT POLICY.
SO GENERALLY THIS IS WHAT COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZING US TO DO WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING OUR CAPITAL PLANS, SEEING WHAT THEY WANNA SEE IN IT, SEEING WHAT THEY DON'T WANNA SEE IN IT, UH, HOW THEY WOULD WANT TO GO ABOUT FUNDING CERTAIN THINGS IN CERTAIN WAYS.
AND THEN THE DEBT POLICY IS STRICTLY SAYING, WHEN DO WE GO AND GET DEBT? MM-HMM
WHEN ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH ME GOING AND GETTING DEBT? AND HOW MUCH CAN I GET? HOW MUCH ARE YOU GONNA LET ME GET? SO, UH, THESE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT WE'VE NOT HISTORICALLY DONE WELL WITH.
UM, JUST BY NATURE OF THE WAY THAT GOVERNMENTS HAVE DONE ACCOUNTING FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS.
WE'VE REALLY NOT EVEN LOOKED AT SOME OF THE LONG-TERM, UH, STYLE KIND OF FORECASTING UNTIL VERY RECENTLY.
UH, GOOD, GOOD WAY TO EXPLAIN THAT HERE IS, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, WHAT IS OUR CAPITAL ASSETS? UH, THIS IS ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE IT, IT'D BE OVER THAT THRESHOLD THERE.
UH, AND WE, WE DO A STRAIGHT LINE DEPRECIATION EACH YEAR.
SO WHAT THAT'S REPRESENTING ON THE RIGHT THERE IS AN EIGHT YEAR ASSET.
IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT EVERY YEAR AND IT'LL DEPRECIATE OVER THE COURSE OF EIGHT YEARS.
SO WHEN WE THINK BACK TO, UH, LONG RANGE FORECASTING, THE PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WAS KIND OF THE FIRST SHOT ACROSS THE BOW THAT SAYS, HEY, WE GOT A LOT OF STUFF AND WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL GASB STATEMENTS COME OUT AND THEY WERE KIND OF OUTLINING WHAT OUR PENSION LIABILITIES LOOK LIKE, WHAT SOME OF THE LONGER TERM LIABILITIES THAT WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN REPORTED ON OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS PRIOR TO 2002, 2002, I BELIEVE.
AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO THINK THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU WROTE IN ON TODAY, WE DID NOT HAVE ON OUR BOOKS UNTIL 2002.
WE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO RECORD THEM.
IT'S A COMPLETELY GENERALLY NEW TOPIC, UH, IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTING TIMELINES.
SO WE'VE ONLY JUST SEEN THE FIRST BATCH OF INFRASTRUCTURE FULLY DEPRECIATE AND LOSE ALL OF ITS VALUE.
SO I'M ONLY SAYING THAT POINT TO, TO TELL YOU THAT DEPRECIATION CAN REPRESENT A WAY TO GAUGE YOUR SUCCESS AT FUNDING YOUR CAPITAL PLAN.
GOING FORWARD, TAKE A POLICE VEHICLE 2019, WE BOUGHT DODGE CHARGES AT ABOUT 34,000 394 88.
THAT'S HOW MUCH IT TOOK TO GET ONE OFF THE LINE AND TO SERVICE RETROFITTED NOT ON THE STREET.
2024, WE'VE GONE TO THE FORD INTERCEPTOR SUV THAT WAS PARTLY IN DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT GET DODGE CHARGERS BECAUSE OF THE PRODUCTION ISSUES THAT THEY WERE EXPERIENCING AT THE TIME, AS WELL AS HAVING SOME OPERATIONAL BENEFITS FOR THE OFFICERS AS OPPOSED TO OVER THE, THE DODGE CHARGER.
AND THAT COST IS NOW 60,000 285 77.
THAT'S A 75% INCREASE OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS.
SO EVEN IF I WAS ABLE TO SET ASIDE THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEPRECIATION FOR THE DODGE CHARGER EACH YEAR, I'M STILL COMING UP WITH $25,000 AT THE END OF THE DAY.
SO THIS IS A, A GREAT WAY TO LOOK AT AND SAY, ARE WE KEEPING UP WITH THE GENERAL COST TO OPERATE YOUR FLEETS, YOUR ROLLING STOCK AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS ALL OF US.
SO MOVING FORWARD TO FIRE AERIALS AND ENGINES, YOU HAVE A FLEET OF EIGHT ACTIVE ENGINES AS WELL AS TWO AERIAL ENGINES, TWO LADDER TRUCKS.
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THE ACTIVE ENGINES ARE TYPICALLY A 10 YEAR USEFUL LIFE.THE TWO AERIAL ENGINES ARE TYPICALLY BETWEEN 10 AND 15.
UH, WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR LAST ENGINE THAT I COULD FIND OF COMPARABLE FULL DEPRECIATION, IT WAS ABOUT 312,000 TO BUY THAT 2010 FIRE ENGINE.
UH, WE PUT A LETTER OF INTENT AND STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE VEHICLE FOR JUST SHY OF 800,000 AS A 254% INCREASE OVER THE LIFE OF THAT ASSET.
SO AGAIN, IF I SET ASIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THAT ASSET EACH YEAR AS IT DEPRECIATES ON MY BOOKS, I'M STILL NOT COMING REMOTELY CLOSE TO WHAT I NEED TO REPLACE IT.
THE SAME CONCEPT, UH, FOLLOWS FOR THE AERIAL ENGINES 974,000 BACK IN 2014.
UH, CHIEF BOGLE WAS TALKING WITH ME THE OTHER DAY ABOUT IT.
HE GOT A QUOTE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ROUGHLY 2.1 MILLION.
SO AGAIN, SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'VE ENJOYED THE ABILITY TO FUND AN ENGINE PER YEAR OR ROUGHLY THEREABOUT BASED OFF OF THE ADDITIONAL SAFER GRANT FUNDING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FOR THE 12 ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS THAT RUNS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF 2027.
THAT'S FUNDING THOSE POSITIONS.
SO WE'RE BACK TO KIND OF WHERE WE WERE BEFORE WHERE WE WERE NOT REALLY QUITE PUTTING ENOUGH INTO THE CAPITAL PLAN, RIGHT? YES.
UH, BRIEFLY ON THE AERIALS, UH, I JUST DID SOME, UH, NAPKIN MATH, UH, WHILE I WAS REVIEWING THIS, IS THAT THE, UH, $975,000 IN 2014 IS NOW WORTH $1.3 MILLION IN TODAY'S MONEY VERSUS THEN MONEY.
SO WE'RE APPROXIMATELY 800,000 AWAY, NOT ALMOST ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AWAY.
IN, IN, JUST IN IN PERSPECTIVE.
I'M NOT CALLING YOUR NUMBERS OUT OR ANYTHING, BUT I'M JUST RECTIFYING IT IN MY OWN MIND IS THAT $2,014 ARE NOT THE SAME AS 2020 $5.
SO IN THAT CONCEPT THAT THERE'S AN INCREASE IN DOLLARS IN, IN OUR REVENUE PROCESS AS WELL TOO.
AND THAT TO, TO DRIVE HOME YOUR POINT, WE'RE THAT REVENUE PROCESS IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE, WITH THE NEEDS OF THE, TO SUPPLY THE SERVICES TO THE CITY THAT THE PEOPLE EXPECT IT IS NOT.
UH, MAINLY THE POINT TO, UH, GO BACK TO YOUR, YOUR MATH ON IT WAS IF THAT HAD INCREASED AT THAT RATE AND WE STILL WERE KIND OF IN THE SAME POSITION MM-HMM.
I WOULDN'T BE SLEEPING AS POORLY AS I AM
UM, THIS, THIS IS THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING BACK DOWN.
THIS, THIS IS PRE TARIFF MATH.
ALL I'M, ALL I'M DOING IS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I I SPEAK OUT LOUD A LOT OF TIMES FOR MY OWN SELF, YOU KNOW, SO THAT I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
I'M THAT KIND OF A LEARNER, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
MORE I SPEAK TO YOU THE BETTER I LEARN.
UH, NOW TO THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN, YOU'VE SEEN THIS CHART.
IT'S THE SAME CHART WE'VE HAD FOR OVER A DECADE NOW.
UH, IF WE WERE GOING TO KEEP OUR ROADS IN FAIR CONDITION, AT A MINIMUM, WE'D BE FUNDING ROUGHLY FIVE TO $6 MILLION A YEAR.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST 10 YEARS, WE HAVE NOT COME CLOSE.
UH, AT THE TIME OF THE STUDY, UH, WE HAD THE 2020 OR THE 2016 COST FOR ASPHALT PER TON WAS AT $72.
TODAY IT'S AT 109, WHICH IS A 52% INCREASE OVER THAT TIME PERIOD.
SO THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN THE STUDY BEING DONE AND TODAY THE UNDERLYING COST HAS HALVED AGAIN.
SO, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND KNOW THAT WE HAVEN'T MET THEM ALREADY, WE'RE JUST DIGGING OUR GRAVE A LITTLE DEEPER EACH TIME.
AND WHEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE HEARD THE COMMENT BEFORE THAT PALM BAY WAS EIGHT YEARS BEHIND US IN SOME ISSUES.
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE'RE PROBABLY EIGHT YEARS BEHIND PALM BAY ON, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO ROAD BOND FOR SOMETHING.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S A RESPONSIBLE WAY OF FUNDING ROUTINE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THIS IS A QUICK AND DIRTY, UH, NAPKIN MATH A LITTLE BIT.
I WENT THROUGH EACH OF THE, UH, CAPITAL OUTLAYS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST, GIVE OR TAKE SEVEN YEARS THERE.
UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BLUE BAR, THE BLUE BAR REPRESENTS, UH, THE CITY'S GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES.
DEPRECIATION, YOU CAN FIND THIS IN YOUR, UH, AFER CAPITAL ASSET NOTE.
SO IF YOU'RE USING A RULE OF THUMB, YOU WANNA AT LEAST BE PUTTING IN TERMS OF REPLACEMENT COSTS FOR ASSETS THAT ROLL OVER LIKE AN INVENTORY OF, OF ROLLING STOCK OR, UH, ROADS THAT GET RESURFACED AFTER A PERIODIC AMOUNT OF TIME, SOMETHING CLOSE TO IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT DIFFERENCE MEANS THAT YOU'VE DEFERRED AND DELAYED THAT COST TO A LATER YEAR WHEN IT'S GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE AS WE JUST DEMONSTRATED WITH THE FIRE AND POLICE VEHICLES.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ORANGE BAR, THAT'S HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY SPENT FROM GENERAL FUND FOR REPLACEMENT PURPOSES.
AND NOW I'M CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE YES, WE HAVE MADE SOME PURCHASES USING IMPACT FEES.
YES, WE'VE HAD MADE SOME PURCHASES USING GRANTS THAT IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE WAY OF REPLACING THE EXISTING, UH, STOCK THAT WE HAVE.
SO THIS IS JUST TO UNDERLINE THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR DEPRECIATION COSTS ARE GOING UP AND THAT WE ARE NOT MEETING THE MOMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING PACE WITH FUNDING.
UH, LOOKING AT OUR PEERS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2023 ACT FIRST, UH, NOT
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EVERYBODY HAS ISSUED THEIR 24, OR IF THEY HAVE, IT'S NOT READILY ACCESSIBLE.UH, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE HAS THE WORK WORST BOOK VALUE PERCENTAGE OF DEPRECIABLE ASSETS TO THEIR TOTAL VALUE.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS OUR STUFF'S OLD AND IT'S NOT, UH, NOT A POSITION YOU GENERALLY WANNA BE IN.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT POSITIVELY AND SAY, WELL, WE HAVE THE BRAND NEW BUILDING, THE BRAND NEW POLICE BUILDING, RIGHT? THAT'S ONLY GONNA JUMP US UP TO ABOUT WHERE COCO'S AT.
SO WE, WE BEAT TITUSVILLE WITH THE ONE PROJECT.
SO WHAT THIS IS TRYING TO UNDERLINE IS THAT IF I'M AN OUTSIDE PERSON, A BOND RATING AGENT, IF I'M SOMEONE THAT'S NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY'S FINANCES AND I'M GONNA GIVE SOME LEVEL OF RATING TO US OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I'M GONNA LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OH, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO KEEP CARE OF ANYTHING.
SO I'M TRYING TO GET US TO THINK LONGER TERM HERE, NOT JUST ABOUT THE 26 BUDGET.
I NEED US TO BEGINNING TO THINK THAT EVERY TIME WE CONTINUE TO DEFER ITEMS, WE'RE NOT APPROPRIATELY FUND SOME OF THESE RECURRING LONG, LONG-TERM CAPITAL COSTS.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING IS SAYING BRING ON THE DEBT.
IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN TOMORROW, BUT IT'S COMING.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING MILLAGE RATES, WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THE FUNDING AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA FUND IN THE 26 YEAR GOING FORWARD.
SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, UH, AT THIS POINT WE TRADITIONALLY ASK, UH, TO PROCEED WITH AT LEAST THE CURRENT RATE FOR PROPERTY TAX INCREASES AS PRE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED DURING THE UNION NEGOTIATIONS.
I WILL NOTE THAT BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER TAX INCREASE THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS YEAR USING THE CURRENT RATE, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO SIMILAR RATE INCREASES AS DONE IN PRIOR YEARS THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT, THAT FIVE TO SIX RANGE, IF NOT A LITTLE LOWER, UH, AND HOPEFULLY DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE FOR SOME OF THESE LONG-TERM CAPITAL NEEDS.
UH, DIRECTION FOR ME, UH, AND MY STAFF TO DEVELOP A CAPITAL PLANNING POLICY AND DEBT POLICY.
UM, DEBT POLICIES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMON THAN THE CAPITAL PLANNING POLICY.
UH, BUT IT'S AN IMPERFECT SCIENCE, BUT IT AT LEAST GIVES US A BETTER GUIDELINE OF WHAT YOU WANNA SEE ON YOUR CAPITAL PLAN AND HOW YOU WANNA SEE IT FUNDED.
UM, I'M PROPOSING THAT WE MAKE A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH A ROAD REPLACEMENT SUB FUND OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUND WITH A DEDICATED REVENUE REVENUE SOURCE TIED TO A PERCENTAGE OF GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF YOU GO BACK IN TIME AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE BEEN FUNDING, WE SET A DEDICATED AMOUNT WAY BACK IN THE DAY.
AND AS I JUST PROVED, THAT DEDICATED AMOUNT GETS SMALLER AND SMALLER AND GOES LITTLE AND LITTLE LESS EACH YEAR.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TIE IT TO SOME LEVEL OF INCREASE THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY OCCUR SO THAT WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROPERLY FUNDING THIS CAPITAL PLAN.
NOW WHAT THIS WILL DO IS ONCE WE HAVE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A BALANCED BUDGET, I WILL GIVE YOU WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS.
AND FOR EVERY YEAR MOVING FORWARD, THE IDEA IS TO MAINTAIN THAT PERCENTAGE SO IT WILL NATURALLY ACCRETE IN VALUE.
SO IN THE SAME VEIN AS THE ROAD REPLACEMENT FUND, AND THIS IS GONNA BE DIRECTLY TIED TO THE PAVE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR THAT, UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE ALWAYS SET ASIDE A CERTAIN SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT.
THAT AMOUNT HAS NEVER BEEN REMOTELY SUFFICIENT FOR WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO FUND.
SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO DO HERE AS WELL IS ONCE WE PRESENT YOU WITH A BALANCED BUDGET, A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH A SIMILAR DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE TIED TO A PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL FUND'S PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, ROSS, HOW, HOW WILL WE ESTABLISH A BASELINE, UH, THAT, SO AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR IF WE OVERSIMPLIFYING, WE HAVE AN EXTRA $2 MILLION, LET'S THROW 500,000 OF IT INTO THE, INTO THE PAVING, AND THEN WE SPREAD SOME OTHER STUFF AROUND.
AND AGAIN, JUST OVERSIMPLIFYING, SO WE'RE WHAT, ABOUT $4 MILLION NOW FOR ROAD PAVING? SUPPOSEDLY, OR WE WERE, AND THEN LOGT GOT UNFORTUNATELY KIND OF CUT OUT AT THE KNEES A LITTLE BIT.
OH, THE STATE REACHED OUT AND GRABBED MORE OF OUR MONEY.
OKAY, WELL I DIDN'T WANNA SAY THAT OUT LOUD, BUT CASE IN POINT.
SO, UH, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT OUR BASELINE IS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ESTABLISHING THAT RESOLUTION AND MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE'RE NOW STARTING AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, A MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY UP TO 400, I MEAN 4 MILLION, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA DROP DOWN TO 3 MILLION BECAUSE OF, UH, THE LOCAL OPTION TAX, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO I'D, I'D REALLY LIKE TO KIND OF BRING THAT FROM 10,000 FEET DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, GROUND LEVEL WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
THAT ALONG WITH THE OTHER RESOLUTION, ESTABLISHING MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, BASICALLY.
IT'S, AND IT IS, IT'S MORE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU WERE GOING TO, IN ANY WAY PASS ALONG ADDITIONAL TAX BURDEN OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN BE WELL ASSURED THAT THOSE THINGS ARE NOT JUST GOING TO NEEDLESS INCREASES, PLAN 3% INCREASES, NOTHING, NOTHING SILLY.
IT, IT'S, IT'S TIED SPECIFICALLY TO A, A, A NEED THAT IS CLEARLY DEMONSTRATABLE AND CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH DOING HISTORICALLY.
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UNFORTUNATELY, I LOOKED AT 24, 25, YOU KNOW, I, I KEEP THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, ON THE SHELF IN, IN THE OFFICE.AND SO COMPARING BETWEEN THE TWO AND GOING BACK SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE NOW, AND THEN THE, THEN EIGHT YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, IT GETS UGLIER AND UGLIER, AS YOU SAID.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST GETS HARDER AND HARDER TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND PROVIDE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE A, A DECENT AND GOOD LIFE AND, YOU KNOW, BE PROTECT, PROTECTED BY MEDICAL AND, AND INSURANCE AND, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND JUST, AGAIN, I, I, I DON'T WANT YOUR JOB, BUT I TOTALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU A COUPLE YEARS NOW, ROSS AND I, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR FORTHRIGHT, UH, YOUR FORTHRIGHTNESS IN WHAT YOU DO.
UH, ROSS, I GOT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, ARE YOU, ARE YOU COMPLETE WITH THE SIDE IN YOUR PRESENTATION? THIS IS THE END OF THE, WANNA MAKE SURE WE COULD GO INTO JUST GENERAL DISCUSSION WITH YOU? YES, SIR.
UH, SO LOOKING AT WHAT YOU PRESENTED, UM, I AM OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR FUNDING REVENUES.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH, UM, WITH OUR MULTIPLE THINGS WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE AND ALL OF THAT.
IS THERE ANY SORT OF WAY, IF WE DIRECTED YOU TO CREATE LIKE A FIVE YEAR PLAN OF LIKE, WHAT IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THE MILLAGE, ASSUMING IT'S NOT ELIMINATED AND WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE AND SAY, HEY, THIS WOULD GET US FROM, I'M JUST GONNA USE THE ROADS AS AN EXAMPLE.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE OTHER PLACES YEAH.
BUT TO GET US FROM TEETERING ON POOR TO AT LEAST SATISFACTORY, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE FOLKS LIKE MS. HANLEY WILL BE HERE FOR FOUR MORE BUDGETS, INCLUDING THIS ONE.
WE HAVE OTHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL BE HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT IF NOT LONGER, DEPENDING ON ELECTIONS.
SO WE COULD AT LEAST HAVE A CONSECUTIVE GROUP OF FOLKS WHO WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN THAT YOU AND STAFF COME UP WITH.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU MIGHT, SO WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL JUST BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO FORECAST PROPERTY VALUES? SURE.
UM, I MEAN, I COULD GIVE A GENERIC AND COME UP WITH LIKE A, AN ASSUMED RATE, BUT WHAT I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS I'VE LOOKED AT WHAT COUNCIL ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2016 AND 2018 FOR THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND THE, UH, VEHICLES.
UM, UH, BUT THOSE AMOUNTS, I BELIEVE IT STARTED OFF AT 1.25 MILLION FOR BOTH OF THEM AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
WHEN I LOOKED AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UH, I TRIED TO LOOK AND SEE, WELL, WHAT IF THAT WAS TIED TO THE PERCENTAGE OF THE PROPERTY TAX AT THAT POINT? WHAT WOULD IT HAVE BEEN NOW? SURE.
AND I CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THAT VEIN WITH THE KIND OF HISTORICAL LOOK AS WELL AS MAYBE WHAT IT WILL BE FORECASTED IN SOME ASSUMED WAY.
'CAUSE IF WE'RE ABLE TO CREATE A MECHANISM WHERE, AGAIN, AS THE BOARD ROTATES IN AND OUT, WE HAVE A HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE COMING.
'CAUSE IT ALMOST SEEMS, AGAIN, THIS IS MY FIRST BUDGET WITH Y'ALL, BUT IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF TAKING IT PIECE BY PIECE.
I MEAN, IF WE CREATE A BIGGER PICTURE, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO DO SOME OVERALL GOODS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A MORE BREAD OUT PLAN ON WHAT REVENUES WOULD LOOK LIKE GIVEN THE DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN.
THIS IS MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THAT.
NOT SAYING ANYTHING WAS WRONG IN THE PAST.
IT'S MORE SO WHERE WE'RE GOING FORWARD.
IT'S, AND, AND HONESTLY, COUNCIL CAN TELL ME MOVE FORWARD AS WE HAVE BEEN.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
BUT IT COMES AT THE RISK OF UNDERSTANDING THAT JUST LIKE, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WATER AND SEWER FUND? YOU'RE DELAYING A COST THAT'LL EVENTUALLY COME AT A MUCH GREATER MULTIPLE.
YOU, YOU HAVE THE, THE MEANS AND NEEDS OF YOUR RESIDENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHILE BALANCING WHAT LEVEL OF TAX BURDEN YOU PLACE ON THEM.
UM, BUT IT'S THE SORT OF DEAL WHERE IF I CAN GET AT LEAST SOME KIND OF PASSIVE DEDICATED RESOURCE FOR THE CAPITAL PLAN WITHOUT HAVING TO FEAR OPERATIONAL OR RECURRING COST INCREASES, UH, EATING INTO IT, I WOULD FEEL MUCH BETTER ABOUT MY JOB WHEN I'M HERE IN 20 YEARS DRIVING UP PRISTINE ROADS.
I'M STILL, I'M STILL COMMENT ON YOUR, OH, GO AHEAD, SIR.
OH, WELL COMMENT ON YOUR, IT WASN'T ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE BECAUSE I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.
WELL, YOU ASKED ABOUT A FIVE YEAR PLAN YEAH.
UM, I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH, I'VE EXPERIENCED IS THAT, UH, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 YEAH.
THAT, THAT WE WERE IN THE THROES OF, OF ALL KINDS OF FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES HERE.
NOW LET'S FAST FORWARD TO, NOW YOU GUYS ASKED ME TO COME BACK, SO I CAME BACK.
SO HERE I AM, 20 21, 22 PANDEMIC.
SO THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IS, IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT TO HIS POINT, WE CAN'T PREDICT PROPERTY VALUES.
WE CAN'T PREDICT A LOT OF THESE, THESE VARIABLES THAT ARE GONNA COME AT US.
I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TALLAHASSEE, WE CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
OR WHAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE ANYTHING BACK.
THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO TAKE HA HAVE THEY GIVEN US ANYTHING BACK OVER THE YEARS THAT YOU KNOW OF ROSS? DON'T ANSWER THAT.
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I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, UH, VICE MAYOR, IS THAT IT, IT'S, I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND A FIVE YEAR PLAN.AND UNDERSTANDING YOUR CONCEPT THAT IT IS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY VALID THAT IF WE CAN KEEP CONSISTENCY, EVEN THOUGH THE BOARD CHANGES, YOU KNOW, BASED ON ELECTIONS, BASED ON ON TERM LIMITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT IT BECOMES A REALITY THAT EACH YEAR EACH FUNDING IS GOING TO, YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE RESOLUTIONS YOU WANT, THEY'RE GONNA GET CHANGED.
BUT I MEAN, TAKING A LOOK AT THE REQUESTED ACTION HERE, AND HE'S RECOMMENDING AND NOT RECOMMENDING THE REQUESTED ACTION, WHICH IS THE CURRENT RATE, BUT IT'S A RATE OF DECLINE, SO TO SPEAK.
YOU'RE BASICALLY THAT BEGGING US, AND I, I'M WITH YOU AND I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE WE GET HIGHER THERE TO DO SOMETHING MORE FOR YOU.
AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S KIND OF SOME GENERAL DIRECTION OF THE PATH INSTEAD OF JUST KEEPING THINGS AS IS.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, AS IS, IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
WELL, AS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN WE ESTABLISH THE, THE BASELINE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, OH YEAH.
SO, SO WE ARE A LITTLE AHEAD OF, WE CANNOT, WE CANNOT GO BELOW THAT.
BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN GO ABOVE IT.
SO IT, IT JUST ESTABLISHES THEM TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO START TO BUILD, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, TEMPLATE TO BRING BACK TO US.
AND THEN DO WE GO UP, DO WE GO SIDEWAYS? DO WE, YOU KNOW, BORROW FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO NOW, NOW, MS. HANLEY, I DO HEAR, IS IT ON THIS PARTICULAR, I'VE GOT SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT IF IT'S OKAY, WELL, YES, IT'S ALRIGHT.
NO, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT NO, NO, ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE I HAVE OTHER ITEMS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR IF YOU'VE GOT THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING.
MA'AM, YOU'RE NOT RECOGNIZED UNLESS YOU TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON
NOW OF THIS, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING GETTING, LET'S SAY FOR THE ROAD, A PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET WOULD JUST GO FOR THE ROADS PERIOD.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO CORRECT? LIKE THE ROADS? OKAY.
AND NOW CAN WE GO BACK TO WHAT THE OTHER ONE WE WERE SAYING, LIKE WE, THE MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT FUND.
SO BASICALLY ANY OF THE CITY'S ROLLING STOCK.
UM, I DID HAVE ONE OF THE EARLIER BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, AND JENNY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, UH, BUT I DO KNOW THAT CHIEF GILLESPIE WAS EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE FLEET AT ITS CURRENT OPERATIONAL LEVEL.
UM, I KNOW CHIEF, UH, BOGLE HAS EXPRESSED SIMILAR CONCERNS BASED OFF THE AVAILABILITY OF ENGINES.
UM, NOW THAT IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
THAT'S BEEN A WEIRD, THAT'S BEEN A WEIRD THING BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO BUY 'EM BEFORE, BEFORE WE WERE GOING INTO OUR BUDGET, BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE THE PRICE AND WE COULD GET IT CORRECT.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS CHANGED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S CHANGED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ROADS, THE VE UH, YOU'RE SAYING VEHICLES OR JUST CAPITAL EQUIPMENT TYPE OF MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE ONLY TO GIVE STAFF THE, THE, THE LATITUDE TO FUND THE MOST CRITICAL ITEMS THAT WE TYPICALLY DEFER.
SO WE'RE GONNA SAY PUT A, PUT A PERCENTAGE ON ON THE GENERAL FUND THAT THAT WILL BE AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
THAT THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
IT, IT, IT MAY NOT LOOK EXACTLY AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED, BUT IT'S IT'S THE CONCEPT.
UM, NOW WITH THE DEBT POLICY, CAN I ASK WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT? SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, A COUPLE OF LARGER CITIES THAT HAVE DEVELOPED THESE TYPES OF POLICIES, I KNOW THE CITY OF ORLANDO HAS ONE.
IT'S BASICALLY SAYING, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A COMMISSIONER, COUNCIL OR WHATEVER THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS IN THAT, THAT PARTICULAR CASE, UM, COUNCIL IS GENERALLY ACCEPTING OF THE IDEA THAT WE WILL GO TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF INDEBTEDNESS.
UH, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THE EFFORT OF SAYING, HEY, CAN I GO OUT FOR $70 MILLION IN BONDS AND THEN GET DENIED? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE BECAUSE WE'VE KEPT OUR DEBT LOW.
WE, WE'VE KEPT SO THAT, WE'VE GOTTEN A BETTER RATINGS WHEN WE HAVE WITH OUR, UM, BONDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT IN THE PAST, WITH THE BONDS, WITH GETTING IT, WITH ANY DEBT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN, WE'VE GOTTEN BETTER RATES ON THAT.
SO I I'M TAKING YOUR, I LISTEN TO YOU.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M QUESTIONING WHAT, WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION WITH, WITH THE DEBT POLICIES SITUATION.
SO GENERALLY, UH, A CITY MIGHT DECIDE TO ISSUE DEBT FOR A FIRETRUCK.
THEY MIGHT DECIDE TO ISSUE DEBT FOR A CITY HALL BUILDING.
UH, I CAN SEE WHERE SOME POLICIES LIMIT THE ISSUANCE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT TO ITEMS THAT WILL LAST GREATER THAN 40 YEARS.
SO THEY BASICALLY RESTRICT THEMSELVES TO A BUILDING, UH, THAT KIND OF FORCES THE LEVEL OF FISCAL CONSERVATISM SO THAT THEY ARE NOT INCURRING THE ADDITIONAL INTEREST IN BORROWING COSTS FOR SOME OF THE MORE ROUTINE PURCHASES.
SO THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TEMPERATURE ON.
I I, IT'S NOT LIKE SAYING I'M, I'M GIVING YOU A FORMALIZED DEBT POLICY TODAY, BUT IT'S THE TYPE OF, I JUST WANNA LOOK AT YES.
TO SEE WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT,
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COMING INTO THE MEETINGS AND MEETINGS DOWN THE ROADS, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THOSE SITUATIONS.UH, MA'AM, I RECOGNIZE YOU ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN AND SETTING MILLAGE RATES AND TAXES.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO UP, EVEN THOUGH I, YOU KNOW, I PAY MY, I HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND YES, IT'S GONNA HURT.
UM, BUT I THINK WE HAVE NO, WE, WE HAVE TO, I HATE TO SAY THAT, GO UP ON THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA GO, LIKE THE LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD THE SEWER RATES THAT WE'VE KEPT THEM, WE DIDN'T DO, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
I COULD BE WRONG TWO YEARS AGO.
I, I MIGHT BE WRONG ON MY NUMBER.
SO IF WE ONLY DO ONE OR 2%, EVEN IF ONE OR 2% IT'S DOABLE, RATHER THAN I'M JUST USING A ONE FOR 2%.
BUT IF WE JUST, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS BEFOREHAND RATHER THAN GOING, OKAY, WE KEEP IT HERE AT THIS ONE AND THEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW OR NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GONNA GO 14%.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A HURTING WHERE SOMEBODY, IF WE HAVE A ONE OR 2%, WE CAN, WE CAN ALL HANDLE THOSE.
MOST PEOPLE CAN HANDLE THOSE SITUATIONS.
AND THE OTHER THING IS THOUGH, IS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY OF OUR, AND I'VE LOOKED AT THIS, A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE OLD, HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER.
I MEAN, I, I HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THAT HOUSE SINCE THE SIX, THE LATE SIXTIES.
THEY'VE BEEN THE ONLY OWNERS, THEIR PROPERTY TAXES ARE JUST SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER.
NOT THIS, WHERE PALM BAY IS GETTING NEW HOMEOWNERS.
THEY'RE GETTING THAT NEW HOMEOWNERS NEW HIRE, AND THEY DO HAVE A HIGHER MILLAGE RATE.
THEY'VE HAD SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER MILLAGE RATE ALWAYS HAVE HAD, BUT THEIR, BUT THEIR VALUES HAVE BEEN LOW.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A, A WEIRD SITUATION THERE.
SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO UP AND I SEE THAT IT'S 3% IF I LOOK AT RIGHT.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME CUSHION BECAUSE WITH THE TARIFFS GOING ON, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THE TARIFFS.
IF WE, IF WE HAD TO BUY SOME, LET'S, LET'S EVEN, LET'S SAY WE DON'T EVEN BUY ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, BUT THE MAINTENANCE ON THE EQUIPMENT, WHAT, WE'VE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR PARTS.
I THINK WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR PLUS FOR PARTS FOR AUTO AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
HOW MUCH ARE THOSE GONNA GO UP IN THIS, THIS COMING YEAR? THAT'S, AND WE, WE HAVE SEEN SOME PASS THROUGH TARIFF CHARGES.
UM, THERE WAS A PIECE OF FIRE EQUIPMENT, I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFICS OF IT, BUT WHAT WOULD'VE COST 48,000 COST 55.
UM, SO THERE, THERE ARE ITEMS THAT WE ARE MONITORING.
I'VE BEEN DELAYING THE PURCHASE OF A BOOM TRUCK THAT WAS ALMOST 400,000 BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GUARANTEE WE WOULD HAVE, WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY DUTIES ON THE TIME OF DELIVERY.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THAT AS BEST WE CAN.
UH, BUT TO HOPEFULLY SIMPLIFY THE DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT HERE, UH, THE REASON WHY WE USUALLY START OFF WITH CURRENT RATE IS JUST TO SAY THIS IS KIND OF THE VANILLA FOR ONE.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR COUNSEL, IF I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS DIRECTION RIGHT, IS START WITH THAT AS OUR BASELINE.
I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT WE CAN DO WITH ANY INCREMENTAL INCREASE ABOVE THIS TO A, TO A DEGREE.
CAN WE GO UP TO LIKE THE 6.66 LIKE WE DID IN THE, IN THAT THAT IS POTENTIALLY FOR YOUR PURVIEW TO, TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
HOW, HOW ABOUT JUST A FLAT SIX TO MAKE IT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN IT'S AN EVEN NUMBER NO, GO UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE HIGHER.
THIS BECAUSE OF THE TARIFF, THINGS LIKE THIS GO UP TO SEVEN THEN.
SO AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, JUST, JUST TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, AN ADDITIONAL PERCENT.
SO IF WE WENT FROM 3.61% TO 4.61% THIS YEAR, UH, THAT WOULD GENERATE ROUGHLY ANOTHER $500,000 THAT CAN BE PLUGGED INTO ONE OF THESE LONG-TERM CAPITAL PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN CRITICALLY UNDERFUNDED.
BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY THAT MUCH.
500,000, 500,000 ISN'T GONNA BE THAT MUCH.
THAT'S NOT GONNA MAKE IT JUST 1%.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT ONE FIRE ENGINE
BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE CITY, WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE WATER OVER THERE ON SARNO THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, THAT HAVE BLOWN THE, UH, BY HARBOR CITY ELEMENTARY AND IN BE AND, UH, IN FRONT OF THE SEWER PLANTS ON SARNO.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEEDING WORK.
SO THAT 500,001, ONE OF THOSE NOT EVEN WOULD EAT THAT UP.
SO, SO I THINK WE, WE JUST CAN'T GO UP.
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GONNA SAY AT LEAST FOUR, AT LEAST 4% HIGHER.BUT, UM, THE, UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, ON THAT FIVE YEAR PIECE, WOULD YOU BE COOL WITH HIM GIVING US A FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK OF HOW TO GET US TO THOSE LEVELS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE OVER SEVERAL YEARS WITH WHAT WE KNOW NOW.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL.
WE WILL ALL BE HERE FOR FOUR YEARS.
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IT LIKE MR. LARUSSO SAYS THERE WE'RE LOOKING AT TARIFFS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD IN MY LIFETIME.
I DON'T EVER REMEMBER TARIFFS COMING INTO THIS LIFETIME.
I'VE BEEN AROUND WHEN WE'VE HAD INFLATIONS AS THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THESE TARIFFS ARE SUCH A UP AND DOWN THAT THEY MIGHT NOT BE HERE TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
WE MIGHT NOT BE HERE TOMORROW.
SO WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PLAYING, WE'RE PLAYING DARTS.
LIKE WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE PLAN GOING ON? WELL, AND WE KNOW THAT THINGS ARE GONNA GO UP NO MATTER WHAT.
AND WE DO RELY ON OUR, OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT DEAL WITH VEHICLE PURCHASES ON WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE A PURCHASE AT A SPECIFIC POINT IN TIME OR HOLD THE FUNDING FOR THAT SAME PURCHASE FOR A LATER DATE.
UH, BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE, UM, I, I DON'T WANNA KNEE-JERK NUMBERS SITTING HERE.
BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AT HAND.
WHAT OUR GOAL IS TONIGHT, I BELIEVE IS TO GIVE YOU THE BASELINE NUMBER AND THEN YOU AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
THANK YOU, MALLORY, FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AS WELL TOO.
UH, AND, UM, UH, THEN LET THEM FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT, WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT TWO BUDGET WORKSHOPS.
WE'VE GOT INDIVIDUAL ONE-ON-ONES, BUT EVEN THOSE ONE-ON-ONES CAN TURN ON, CAN TURN INTO FOUR TIME ONE-ON-ONES.
AS WE CONTINUE THE PROCESS, SO WE CAN, THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, UH, AND I'M LEAVE IT TO THE REST OF COUNCIL, BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A BASELINE OF, OF WHAT THE MILLAGE RATE IS RIGHT NOW MM-HMM
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT SO THAT YOU CAN BUILD OR SUBTRACT FROM THAT WHATEVER YOU NEED.
IT GIVES YOU THE TOOL TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT MAYBE THIS, MAYBE THAT.
'CAUSE MY GRANDSON LIKES TO SAY MAYBE YES, MAYBE NO, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE TELLS ME ALL THE TIME.
SO TO GIVE US THOUGH, THIS BROADER SCOPE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE COULD SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENT LEVELS KIND OF GET US, DO YOU NEED US TO ADD THAT INTO THE NO RECOMMENDATION? WE, WE GENERALLY WOULD PROVIDE IT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNSEL IS AMENABLE TO THE IDEA.
UM, I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN RATE INCREASES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN OBSCENELY.
I MEAN, NOTHING THAT ANY ONE PERSON IN THIS ROOM COULD HAVE CONTROLLED.
BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S THE TYPE OF DEAL WHERE I JUST WANTED TO DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU STICKER SHOCK AT A LATER DATE AND SAY, IF, SAY IF I COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, WE WE'RE SHARPENING THE PENCILS WE'RE CUTTING AND WE REALLY NEED AT LEAST 4.6.
I DON'T KNOW YET, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF PREPARING YOU FOR THE IDEA THAT CURRENT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE FOR US.
I, I YOU'RE BEING VERY TACTFUL.
CURRENT'S NOT ENOUGH, BUT VICE MAYOR, UM, SIR, UM, I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ESTIMATING PROPERTY TAX, UH, REVENUE USING A MILLAGE RATE THAT WILL MAINTAIN CURRENT LEVELS, WHICH IS RIGHT NOW, UH, OF OPERATING SERVICE AND PROVIDE COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR EMPLOYEES AND APPROVAL TO SCHEDULE CITY COUNCIL'S FISCAL YEAR 2026, BUDGET SPECIAL MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AS OUTLINED ABOVE.
WELL, WELL, AND MR. LEWIS, SO I, I SECOND IT.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE DATES FOR A SECOND.
SO I THINK I HEARD MS. LEY SECOND IT, BUT CAN WE OPEN TO DISCUSSION PLEASE? SURE.
MS. MS. BASSETT, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? UM, IT'S JUST A, IF, IF TALLAHASSEE DOES THE THING MM-HMM
THAT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO DO, BUT IF THEY DO IT, WOULD RAISING THE MILLAGE RATE SAVE US AT ALL? SO, SO IF I, AT WHAT POINT DO WE, IF, IF I THINK WITH MY TINFOIL HAT CONSPIRACY MINDSET, UM, I LOVE THAT YOU MAY TECHNICALLY BENEFIT IF, DEPENDING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY REMOVAL OF PROPERTY TAXES.
WHEN WE LOOK AT PRIOR CHANGES TO SAY SALES TAX DISTRIBUTIONS, THEY GENERALLY FREEZE A CERTAIN LEVEL GUARANTEE FROM THE STATE.
SO IN THEORY, SINCE NOTHING'S SET IN STON YET, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T GO AND SAY, WE'LL GUARANTEE YOU UP TO FUNDING LEVELS IN 2022.
UH, IF YOU WERE TO DO SOMETHING OF A GREATER INCREASE NOW, AND THEY SAY, WE'LL FREEZE YOUR FUNDING LEVEL AT 2026, AND THEN ANYTHING ADDITIONAL AS THINGS GROW, UH, YOU MAY FIND A BENEFIT OF HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE REVENUE IN THE, IN THE, THE PERSONNEL.
BUT I, I WOULD GENUINELY, I I'M NOT VIEWING THE PROPERTY TAX AS A SERIOUS EFFORT.
UM, I, I THINK ONCE THE COMPLEXITY OF IT AS WELL AS SOME OF THE, UH, VESTED INTERESTS, UH, OF VARIED LOBBYING UNIONS AND THE, LIKE, CATCH WIND OF WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THEIR POTENTIAL EARNINGS IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE WILL NOT BE MUCH POLITICAL SUPPORT FOR DOING WHAT IS PROPOSED VICE MAYOR.
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SO I KNOW THAT, UM, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE FOR EVERYTHING THAT, UH, YOU ROSS AND YOUR STAFF HAVE DONE, UH, IN THE PAST YEARS.BECAUSE WHEN WE DO GET THAT BUDGET AFTER YOU, UM, DO YOUR INITIAL, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THIS MONEY THAT WE GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW? UM, YOU, YOU HAVE GENERALLY IN THE PAST GIVEN, WELL, THESE THINGS CAN'T BE FUNDED.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH NOT DOING THOSE, OR IF YOU INCREASE IT BY THIS AMOUNT, WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
SO JUST FOR THE NEW PEOPLE ON THE, UM, COUNCIL, THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT WE GET.
SO IT GIVES US AN IDEA OF YEAH.
YOU KNOW, YES, I CAN LIVE WITH NOT HAVING THAT, BUT I CAN'T LIVE WITH NOT HAVING THAT.
AND THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS, UM, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE GO WITH THAT.
THAT'S HOW WE DO IT MOSTLY EVERY YEAR.
SO IF WE CAN FOLLOW THAT PROCESS, OH, I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.
WOULD BE, I MEAN, JUST TO GIVE BACK, THERE WAS, THERE'S A CITY HERE OF OUR COUNTY THAT ROLLED BACK IN THIS PAST THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR, ROLLED BACK THEIR, UM, PROPERTY TAXES, THEIR FUND, THEIR, UM, CONTINGENCY FUND IS PROBABLY, I KNOW IS PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORE MONEY IN THEIR CHECKING ACCOUNT THAN THEY HAVE IN THEIR CONTINGENCY FUNDS.
AND THERE'S OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE IN THAT CITY HAVE HAVE, BECAUSE IT'S A NICE SOUNDBITE, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE BROUGHT BACK YOUR, WE BROUGHT DOWN YOUR TAXES.
BUT IF THEY HAVE ONE GOOD STORM, IF WE HAD A STORM LIKE THE WEST COAST DID, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN DECIMATED.
I DON'T WANT TO BE, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE WANTS, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE WE, CAN WE BE RUNNING? WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT RUNNING.
OH MY GOD, WE RAN OUTTA MONEY AND WE CAN'T FIX THIS, WE CAN'T DO THAT, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I I, I WANNA BE ABLE TO DO AT LEAST THE MINIMUM OF WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR AND PUT A LITTLE EXTRA WAY FOR CONTINGENCIES.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY GOAL IS TO DO AT LEAST THIS, IF WE COULD DO MORE THAN THAT, IT'D BE GREAT.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE SEWER THING WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO JUMP THOSE TAXES RIGHT UP THERE AND IT'S A VERY SNOWBIRD AREA, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME YELLING THEN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'D RATHER SEE US DO.
SO NOW, ROSS, UM, REAL QUICK AND, UH, GETTING INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THIS MOTION, UM, THAT WAS LAID OUT, UM, KINDLY IN THE CITY MANAGER'S ITEM REPORT, IT DOES NOT, WHAT WAS VERBALLY STATED MOTION AND SECONDED HERE DOES NOT INCLUDE THIS DIRECTING STAFF TO BEGIN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CAPITAL PLAN AND DEBT POLICY.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU ASKING US TO ALSO INCLUDE THAT IN THIS MOTION? I, I WOULD LIKE TO, YEAH.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND THAT THERE'S, I SHOULD DO IT WELL.
WELL, I, I'LL GET, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'VE GOT LIKE SIX THINGS THAT I THINK HE NEEDS US TO DO THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN THIS.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE GET YOU ALL THE TOOLS AND TOOLBOX YOU NEED.
SO THAT YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO HERE.
SO YOU NEED THESE TWO ITEMS, THE RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH A ROAD REPLACEMENT, UM, AS WELL AS THE NEW MACHINERY EQUIPMENT.
NOW ON THAT, I'M LOOKING AT THE DATES AS WELL.
AND THIS IS A DISCUSSION AS FAR AS YOU PICKED JULY 29TH, UH, FOR US TO HAVE OUR SPECIAL MEETING.
THAT'S A FIFTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
UM, I'M JUST, I COMPARTMENTALIZE STUFF.
IF WE CHOSE IT TO BE THE 15TH INSTEAD, AND THAT WAY THERE'S STAFF GETS A THREE WEEK BREAK BETWEEN THE LAST JULY MEETING AND THE AUGUST MEETING.
DOES 15TH CAUSE ANY SORT OF, I I CAN, I CAN SEE JENNY, UH,
SO, SO GENERALLY WITH THE WAY THE BUDGET SCHEDULE WILL WORK SURE.
IS DURING THAT 15TH WINDOW THAT GENERAL COUPLE WEEKS AROUND THAT WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET INDIVIDUALLY WITH STAFF.
SO THAT THE DISCUSSION THAT OCCURS ON THE 29TH CAN BE INFORMED OF.
ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WE CAN RESEARCH PRIOR TO, AND ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU FEEL SHOULD BE AT LEAST ADDRESSED AT THAT MEETING AS A PUBLIC FORUM? THE, THE INTEREST WAS JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL MORE TIME IF THAT'S THE MOST CONVENIENT FOR YOU ALL THAT IS MOST CONVENIENT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, UM, IN THAT REGARD.
SO, SO VICE MAYOR, LET ME AMEND MY MOTION.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO, I KNOW TO INCLUDE MR. SMITH HAS A, JUST BEFORE WE DO THAT, EITHER NEW EMOTIONAL OR AMENDING, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW POINTS.
VICE MAYOR, IF I MAY GO JUST REAL QUICK.
SO, UH, ROSS, ON THE BOTTOM BULLET POINT YOU HAVE HERE HOPE OF HIGHER REVENUES AND LOWER OPERATIONAL COSTS.
SO, UH, JUST COMING FROM MY BACKGROUND, I, I, AND I'VE MENTIONED THAT BEFORE.
I WOULD ALSO, IN ADDITION TO WHAT, UH, UH, UH, FELLOW COUNCILWOMAN SAID ABOUT GIVING US SORT OF THOSE PARAMETERS, I'M ALSO WONDERING WHAT KIND OF THINGS DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WE MAYBE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT WAYS OF GETTING ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF WE'VE EVER DONE THAT TYPE OF EXERCISE, JUST BRAINSTORMING AND, AND THAT'S THE ONE SIDE OF IT.
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BUT THEN THE OTHER THING WOULD BE WAYS OF LOWERING COSTS.I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW FROM THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD, THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT AS A BODY, IT MAY JUST HAVE NEVER BEEN PRESENTED.
BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE IF WE SORT OF COULD THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AND MAYBE THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX JUST A LITTLE AND, AND SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY POINT.
TO KIND OF, FOR CONSIDERATION, MS. LAMB, UH OH.
IS, AND, AND JUST TO, UH, REBUT THAT ANY REVENUE INCREASE IS EITHER A FEE OR A TAX.
AND WE DON'T PRODUCE, UH, INCOME AS A CITY, AS A GOVERNMENT.
WE COLLECT INCOME FROM THE TAXPAYERS.
SO I WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE NOT A TAX AND SPEND BOARD.
WE, WE ARE A VERY CONSERVATIVE BOARD.
ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE.
I HOPE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS UP HERE.
UM, BUT, UH, THE REALITY, THERE ARE REALITIES IN LIFE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT, THAT YOU KNOW, OUT LOUD, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY REVENUE, EVERY REVENUE COMES FROM THEM, NOT FROM US.
SO, MS. LAMB, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, JUST AS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY POINTED OUT, WE TYPICALLY EVERY YEAR WILL BRING THE, THIS IS, THIS WILL KEEP CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND THEN WE WILL, IF YOU WERE TO INCREASE THE MILLAGE RATE BY X AMOUNT, WE COULD PROVIDE THESE EXTRA THINGS, OR WE COULD DO THESE WHEN I SAY EXTRA, OR WE COULD FUND THESE ADDITIONAL MACHINERY EQUIPMENTS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
AND IN SOME YEARS WE'VE EVEN LOOKED AT IT AS, YOU KNOW, KNOW WE COULD REDUCE HERE AND RAISE HERE.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE BUDGET MM-HMM
AND THAT THOSE ARE, WE DO TEND TO GIVE OPTIONS.
AND DOES THAT ADDRESS WHAT YOU AS, WE'RE GONNA AMEND MOTIONS HERE.
DOES THAT ADDRESS WHAT YOU NEED? PERFECT.
MR. RUSO, I BELIEVE THAT YOU WANTED TO AMEND YOUR MOTION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO UH, TO, YES.
UH, VICE MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THE, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ 'EM OUT LOUD? UH, WELL JUST THE BULLET POINTS ESTABLISH ESTABLISHMENT ROAD REPLACEMENT SUB FUND OF THE, IN THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUND WITH DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE TIED TO A PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
THAT'S THE FIRST RESOLUTION I'D LIKE TO, UH, ADD TO, UH, AMEND TO THE, UH, MOTION.
SECOND ONE IS THE RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND WITH DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE WITH A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE TIED TO A PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
UH, MS. STANLEY, WILL YOU SECOND? WILL YOU AMEND YOUR SECOND? ALRIGHT, PERFECT.
UH, SEEING NO MORE DISCUSSION, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. LARUSSO, A SECOND BY MS. HANLEY.
UM, ADAM, WOULD YOU LIKE A ROLL CALL VOTE OR ACCLIMATION? ACCLIMATION IS FINE.
ACCLIMATION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I KNOW THAT WAS QUITE A LOT TO GET THROUGH AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME.
SO RATHER NOW THEN LIKE 1130 TONIGHT, I WAS GONNA SAY, CAN WE DO THIS NEXT? I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS NEXT YEAR, BUT PUT IT TOWARDS, ITS MORE THE BEGINNING BECAUSE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO, RATHER THAN AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT WHERE WE'RE ALL LIKE, AND HAVE ONE OF THOSE DAYS.
I, I KNOW IT'S THE MOST INTERESTING TOPIC IN THE WORLD AND EVERYONE'S AS PASSIONATE ABOUT HER AS I AM.
SO YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN IT.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'LL, I'LL NOTE THAT, UH, THE MAYOR HAD TO DEPART ABOUT SEVEN 50 AND THE VICE MAYORS TAKEN OVER.
I KNOW THAT'S CLEAR ON THE VIDEO, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE AUDIO OR THE, OR THE MINUTES.
UH, SO AGAIN, I ITEM NUMBER NINE, THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 24.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF 0.50 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MILLER LANE, TRIMBLE ROAD INTERSECTION WEST OF LINTON STREET AND EAST OF TROLLEY AVENUE.
PROVIDING FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE CORPORATE LIMITS AND BOUNDARIES THEREOF, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 25 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING APPENDIX D CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY ESTABLISHING A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP CLASSIFICATION ON 0.50 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MILLER LANE, TRIMBLE ROAD INTERSECTION WEST OF LINTON STREET AND EAST OF TROLLEY AVENUE.
9 53 MILLER LANE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 26, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY ESTABLISHING AN R ONE, A SINGLE FAMILY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON A 0.50 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE MILLER LANE, TRIMBLE ROAD INTERSECTION WEST OF LITTON STREET AND EAST OF TALIA AVENUE.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
MS. DIMMER, UH, YOU ARE HERE REPRESENTING? YES.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND OR VICE MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON THIS ITEM ON SECOND READING THIS EVENING.
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THANK YOU.ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I HAVE ANY SIGN UP SHEETS? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES? SEEING NONE.
OKAY, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION VICE MAYOR MS. HANLEY, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 24 BASED UPON THE FINES CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
ALRIGHT, I GOT MOTION BY MS. HANLEY IS SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO IS NOT PRESENT.
ANOTHER MOTION MAYOR MS. HANLEY, APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 25 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO IS NOT PRESENT.
A MAYOR APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 26 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, SECOND BY MS. BASSETT BASSETT.
COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO IS NOT PRESENT.
THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 27.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA.
AMENDING REGULATIONS AND USE STANDARDS RELATED TO ACCESSORY DWELLINGS IN THE RURAL ESTATE REU ZONING DISTRICT, UH, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING APPENDIX B OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ZONING AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE, DISTRICT REGULATIONS AMENDING ARTICLE SIX.
USE STANDARDS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS DIMMER? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, SORRY, I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 VICE BEFORE WE GO TO THE MOTION.
ANY PUBLIC HEARING? OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SIGN UP SHEETS OVER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 27 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, BOARD.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. KENNEDY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
MA'AM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR, UH, THE SUPPORT ON THIS.
UM, I KNOW IT WAS A BIG TO DO AND WE FINALLY GOT TO A WIN-WIN, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND THANK YOU FOR LEADING ON IT 'CAUSE THAT WAS A LOT.
THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 28.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA.
REVOKING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION GRANTED TO L THREE HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH 44.
MAKING A FINDING THAT THE BUSINESS HAS INDICATED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND THE NEW CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ASSESSMENT AND EXEMPTION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION.
PRESENTING ON THIS IS MS. DIMMER.
NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON SECOND READING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SIGNUP SHEETS? YES.
SEEING NONE OPEN THE PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION MA'AM? UH, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 28.
I HAVE A SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY.
ALRIGHT, MOTION BY MS. BASSETT.
I HAVE OYE AND THE MOTION PASSES.
PRESENTING IS MS. JENNIFER SPANNO.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS TASK ORDER NUMBER CHA 31 FOR THE POTABLE WATER BYPRODUCT DISPOSAL DISCHARGE PERMIT RENEWAL.
UH, BACK IN 2021, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ISSUED THE JOE MULLENS DEMINERALIZATION CONCENTRATE MINOR DISCHARGE PERMIT TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
AND THIS PERMIT REGULATES THE SURFACE WATER DISPOSAL OF THE BYPRODUCT OF THE REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER TREATMENT PROCESS.
IT'S ALSO THE CONCENTRATE, UM, WHICH IS A, MOSTLY A BRINE SOLUTION THAT COMES FROM THE WELL FIELD.
UM, THIS PERMIT IS REQUIRED TO BE RENEWED EVERY FIVE YEARS AND THE CURRENT PERMIT EXPIRES IN, UH, APRIL OF 2026.
SO, UH, A PERMIT RENEWAL APPLICATION PACKAGE IS REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION.
AND THE SCOPE INCLUDES PREPARING THE PERMIT, RENEWAL, PULLING TOGETHER ALL THE DATA, UM, THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
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IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THE POTABLE WATER BYPRODUCT DISPOSAL DISCHARGE PERMIT AND REQUEST APPROVAL OF TASK WATER NUMBER CHA 0 3 1 FOR THE POTABLE WATER BYPRODUCT DISPOSAL PERMIT RENEWAL PROJECT NUMBER 3 4 5 2 5 IN THE AMOUNT OF $51,610.DO, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. OLI? SEEING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, VICE MAYOR? YES.
APPROVAL TASK ORDERS CCHA 0 3 1 TO CHA CONSULTING INC.
WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA FOR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES FOR PORTABLE WATER BY BYPRODUCT DISPOSAL DISCHARGE PERMIT RENEWAL PROJECT NUMBER 3 4 5 2 5 IN THE AMOUNT OF $51,610.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
I HAVE NUMBER 13, MS. BAGNOLI.
THIS IS TASK WATER NUMBER CHA 0 3 2.
UM, TO THE SAME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE POTABLE WATER HYDRAULIC MODEL CALIBRATION EVERY TWO TO THREE YEARS.
UM, OUR POTABLE WATER HYDRAULIC MODEL, WHICH BASICALLY HAS ALL OUR PIPES IN IT.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN ASSIGN DEMANDS TO IT AND FLOWS AND BASICALLY IT TELLS US WHAT OUR FLOWS AND PRESSURES SHOULD BE IN THE SYSTEM.
UM, HELP US WHEN WE NEED TO TROUBLESHOOT OR, UM, WHEN WE KNOW WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO EVERY, UH, TWO TO THREE YEARS WE LIKE TO UPDATE THE MODEL AND CALIBRATE IT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S REPRESENTING THE CURRENT FIELD CONDITIONS TO GREATER THAN 90% ACCURACY.
LAST MODEL UPDATE WAS COMPLETED IN 2022.
UM, ALSO BACK IN THE SPRING OF 2020, THE CITY STARTED INSTALLING PERMANENT PRESSURE RECORDERS WITHIN THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, WHICH HELPS TO AID WITH ALL THE CALIBRATING OF THE MODEL AND ALSO TO MONITOR THE AREAS AROUND THE WATER MAIN BREAKS FOR PRESSURE DROPS.
UM, THE SCOPE OF THIS INCLUDES UPDATING THE MODEL DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, PIPING PUMP CURVES, TANK GEOMETRY LEVELS, UM, ANY CHANGES TO THE PLANT INFORMATION AND LOOKING AT OUR CONSECUTIVE USERS LIKE WEST MELBOURNE AND MODELING IN THE EMERGENCY INTERCONNECTS.
UM, WE DEVELOP A STEADY STATE MODEL WITH THE AVERAGE FLOWS AND ALL, UH, MAX PEAK DAY.
OUR, UM, ALL BASED ON CURRENT 2025 POPULATION DATA.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN SET UP EXTENDED PERIOD SIMULATIONS OFF OF THAT INFORMATION AND WE END UP WITH A, UM, FINAL, FINAL DELIVERABLE OF THE CALIBRATION REPORT ALONG WITH THE UPDATED MODEL FOR OUR USE AND FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN THE WATER SEWER OPERATING ACCOUNT FOR, UH, CONSULTING FEES, PUBLIC, UM, PUBLIC WORKS, UTILITIES ADMINISTRATION CONSULTING FEES AND REQUEST APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER CHA 0 3 2 TO CHA CONSULTING FOR THE POTABLE WATER HYDRAULIC MODEL CALIBRATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $77,250.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. OLI? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION VICE MAYOR MA'AM.
APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER CA 0 3 2 TO CHA CONSULTING INC.
WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA FOR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES SERVICES FOR POTABLE WATER HYDRAULIC MODEL CALIBRATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $77,250.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BASSETT, A SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE, I HAVE NUMBER 14, MS. MAGNOLIA.
SO THIS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO A PREVIOUS TASK ORDER THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL CHA 0 2 6 FOR THE LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY PROJECT.
UM, BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024, COUNSEL APPROVED THE TASK ORDER FOR CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF THE REQUIRED LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCIES LED AND COPPER RULE RULE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WHICH IS THE LCRI REGULATIONS.
THE ORIGINAL TASKS INCLUDED PROJECT MANAGEMENT RECORDS REVIEW AND INVENTORY UPDATES AND OTHER REGULATORY ASSISTANCE, UM, INCLUDING SUBMITTING THE INITIAL SERVICE LINE IN INVENTORY, WHICH WAS DUE LAST OCTOBER.
AND THEN IT'LL BE UPDATING IT EVERY YEAR WHEN WE HAVE TO RESUBMIT IT.
UM, AND THE CITY IS ALSO REQUESTING, UM, CH A'S ASSISTANCE WITH DEVELOPING ADDITIONAL INVENTORY PROCESSES IN THE AMENDMENT, WHICH INCLUDE, UH, EDUCATION AND OUTREACH MATERIALS, INTEGRATING DATA TECHNIQUES THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT FUTURE STATISTICAL ANALYSIS AND EVALUATION OF THE INVENTORY DATASET.
UM, AIMED AT LIMITING THE NEED FOR EXTENSIVE FIELD INVESTIGATIONS.
AND, UM, SO BASICALLY HELPING WITH MODEL PROCESSES.
SO, UM, WE WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR
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A, UM, STATE REVOLVING FUND LOAN IN THE AMOUNT OF $2 MILLION, WHICH WAS AT 0% INTEREST AND 49% PROJECT FORGIVENESS.SO, UM, ALTHOUGH WE, UH, APPROVED CHA 0 2 6 BACK, UH, IN OCTOBER, WE CAN STILL APPLY THAT TOWARDS IT'S FOR PLANNING PURPOSES.
SO IT'S FOR BASICALLY HAVING THE CONSULTANT HELP US, UM, DOING THE MODELING OR GETTING THE REPORTS OUT THAT ARE REQUIRED.
ALSO IT CAN HELP US WITH DOING THE SOFT DIGS SO WHEN WE GO OUT IN THE FIELD.
SO OTHER UH, PROCESSES THAT HAVE COME UP ARE THE STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OR THEY DO A MODEL WHERE WE DO 10 POTHOLES IN 10 DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEN THEY COME UP WITH, WELL STATISTICALLY WE SHOULD ONLY HAVE X PERCENTAGE OF LEAD, IF ANY, IF WE FIND ANY.
SO, UM, BASICALLY SINCE UM, THE SRF LOAN PROGRAM ALLOWS FOR THIS, WE WANTED TO, UM, ADD IN THESE ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR GETTING THIS, UM, UP TO FIVE TOTAL AMOUNT, UP TO 500,000 OR JUST CLOSE TO IT.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MAX YOU CAN USE FOR THAT SERV FOR THE CONSULTING SERVICES.
UM, SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE TASK ORDER CHA 0 2 6, UM, FOR PROJECT NUMBER 3 9 7 2 5, UH, LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY PROJECT, UH, FOR A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $119,100.
AND I FAILED TO MENTION THAT ALTHOUGH WE'LL GET THIS, THESE FUNDS RETURNED TO US, THE CURRENT FUNDING FOR THIS IS COMING OUT OF WATER SEWER FUNDS AND THEN IT'LL BE, UM, RECONCILED DURING THE THIRD QUARTER.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BAGNOLI? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO TASK ORDER NUMBER CA 0 2 6 TO CHA CONSULTING INC.
WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA FOR THE LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY PROJECT NUMBER 3 9 7 2 5 FOR AN NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $119,100.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION SINCE WE'RE ON THE BUDGET.
UM, MS. LAMB ON ITEM A REGARDING OUR $74,500 FEE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD REGARDING POLICE OFFICERS, HOW IS THAT SET? UH, IS THAT JUST A MUTUAL AGREE? IS IT RELATED LIKE TO HOW WE DO WITH THE EVENTS OR IS THAT JUST BASED ON THEIR TIME? I'M JUST CURIOUS OF HOW, HOW THAT'S SET.
IT IS, IT'S SET, IT'S A, A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OR IT DIFFERS SLIGHTLY EVERY YEAR, BUT IT IS SOMETHING SET BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.
SO WE'RE JUST ADOPTING WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS, IS YES.
AND IS THAT A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT TO YOU AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? WE'D ALWAYS LIKE IT TO BE MORE, BUT NO, IT, IT, IT, IS THERE ANYTHING WE COULD DO IN FUTURE YEARS TO MAKE IT MORE? NO.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
UM, ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL I GET.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LAMB? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UH, APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA A THROUGH A, UH, A THROUGH AYE.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. RUSO, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
ITEM NUMBER 17, UH, WE HAVE MR. CLARK SIMMONS.
THIS IS FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR AGED, UH, CARDIAC MONITORS AND DEFIBRILLATORS.
UM, OUR CURRENT ONES HAVE REACHED THEIR END OF THEIR SERVICE SERVICEABLE LIFE AND HAVE FALLEN TO VICTIM TWO PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE, UH, NO LONGER TO BE SERVICEABLE UNDER SERVICE CONTRACTS DUE TO THEY NOT MAKE THEM ANYMORE.
SO THIS WILL BE TO PURCHASE 15 NEW, NEW GENERATION, UH, LIFE PIPE MONITORS.
IT IS A SOLE SOURCE ITEM AND, UH, STAFF REQUEST APPROVAL PURCHASE OF 15 LIFE PACK 35 T MONITORS WITH PROAIR MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THE DEPARTMENT, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STRIKE EMERGENCY CARE, RICHMOND, WASHINGTON FOR THE AMOUNT OF $1,034,658 AND 30 CENTS.
ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SIMMONS? UM, I DO YOU HAVE ONE? YES MA'AM.
QUICKLY, WHERE WILL THESE BE DISPATCHED TO YOUR, UH, VEHICLES? YES.
YEAH, SO THESE, THESE ARE PORT PORTABLE CARDIAC MONITORS THAT'LL GO ON OUR, RIGHT NOW, 10 IN SERVICE VEHICLES, 11 WHEN THE HEAVY RIGHT COMES IN AND THEN WE'LL GIVE US FOUR IN RESERVE.
HOW LONG ARE THEY, UM, GOOD FOR? SO RIGHT NOW GREATER THAN 60% OF 'EM ARE OVER 14 YEARS OLD.
UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
I THINK THE AVERAGE LIFE IS RIGHT AT 10 AND TWO THIRDS YEARS BECAUSE THIS NEW GENERATION HADN'T COME OUT YET.
SO THEY WERE STILL OFFERING, UH, SERVICE PLANS.
NOW THIS NEW GENERATION'S OUT, THEY'RE NOT OFFERING SERVICE PLANS.
THEY'RE NO LONGER MAKING OR MAKING PARTS, SO, OKAY.
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AND, AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE 15 THAT ARE OUT OF SERVICE? SO THAT INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, QUOTE, UH, IS A TRADE-IN VALUE OH, FOR 3,500.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SIMMONS? MA'AM? OH, JENNY, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE FUNDING BECAME AVAILABLE FOR THIS AS PART OF THAT QUARTERLY BUDGET ADJUSTMENT THAT ROSS DID REFERENCE, UM, IN HIS PRESENTATION.
BUT THAT IS HOW WE WERE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, I'LL TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION VICE MAYOR MA'AM, APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF 15 STRYKER LIFE PACK 35 CARDIAC MONITORS WITH PROCARE MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, STRYKER EMERGENCY CARE, REDMOND, WASHINGTON $1,034,658 AND 30 CENTS.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BASSETT, SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 18, MS. MAGNOLIA, YOU'RE BACK.
I, I'LL READ THE UH, ORDINANCE VICE MAYOR.
UH, THIS IS, UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 29, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION AMENDING SECTION TWO DASH 2 0 3 COMPOSITION AMENDING SECTION TWO DASH 2 0 7 DUTIES AND PURPOSE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
UM, SO THIS, UH, THE BEAUTIFICATION AND ENERGY ENERGY EFFICIENT BOARD ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2017 WITH THE, WITH AN APPROVED ORDINANCE AND THE BOARD'S DUTIES AS OUTLINED IN CITY CODE SECTIONS TWO DASH 2 0 7 INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN FOR CITY OPERATIONS WITH A GOAL OF ACHIEVING A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAN ENERGY BY 2035.
THE BOARD SERVES AS IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND IS SEEKING TO CHANGE THE GOALS SET FORTH IN THE CITY CODE SECTION, UM, TWO DASH 27 A AND A ONE.
ONE OF THE CURRENT GOALS OF THE ORDINANCE, UM, IS THE A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAN ENERGY BY 2035.
HOWEVER, BASED ON THE CURRENT PROJECTIONS OF WHERE WE ARE NOW, UM, THE BEEB IS RECOMMENDING EXTENDING THAT TIME TO ACHIEVE A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAN ENERGY TO 2045.
AND THE BEEB WAS ALSO RECOMMENDING ADDING SOME EXAMPLES OF RENEWABLE ENERGY INTO THE SECTION, UM, WHICH WERE UNDERLINED INCLUDING, UM, RENEWABLE SOLAR, HYDROGEN, NUCLEAR NATURAL GAS BIOFUELS, RECYCLED NATURAL GAS AS WASTE TO ENERGY CONVERSION.
UM, ALL OF WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN THE FPL SOLAR TOGETHER PROGRAM THAT WE ARE A PART OF.
AND, UM, SO ADDITIONALLY THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ALSO PROVIDES FOR A REVISION TO THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD CHANGING THEIR REQUIREMENT OF HAVING AT LEAST TWO BUSINESS OWNERS.
WHILE WE ARE STILL ENCOURAGING ANY BUSINESS OWNERS TO APPLY, UM, ATTEMPTS HA HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL AND IS CAUSING US THAT NOT HAVE A FULL BOARD, SO RELAXING THIS REQUIREMENT WOULD ALLOW BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR SEATS ON THE BOARD TO BE FILLED AND REQUESTING APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 29.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BAGNOLI? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
AYE MAYOR MA'AM, VICE MAYOR APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 29.
ALRIGHT, SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
ITEM NUMBER 19, WE HAVE MS. ABBY JOHNSON.
I'M HERE FOR THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS, SO LET'S HAVE A GOOD TIME.
SO I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR THE LEADERSHIP OF ONE FIND CINDY DIMMER.
AND TONIGHT I'M GONNA PRESENT TO YOU REVISIONS, PROPOSED REVISIONS FOR THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.
AS AN OVERVIEW, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN ARIEL, THE CI THE PURPOSE OF THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN IS BASICALLY A GUIDELINE FOR STAFF TO ENGAGE LOCAL RESIDENTS INTO ALL OF THE PLANNING PROCESSES AND EVALUATION PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS FOR ANY OF THE HUD FORMULA GRANTS, LEMME GET A LITTLE CLOSER.
AND HUD FORMULA GRANTS ARE PROGRAMS LIKE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, SECTION 1 0 8, LOANS AND NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION.
AND THE PUR THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PURPOSE IS TO SERVE THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME
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RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY.AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO GEEK OUT TONIGHT, YOU CAN READ 24 CFR 91.600.
SO ONE EXAMPLE THAT'LL GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN IS THE RECENTLY COMPLETED UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD CROSSWALK AT BRUCE C BUG STREET.
SO AT FIRST I HAVE TO GIVE A GREAT BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND ALL OTHER PARTNERS THAT WERE PART OF THIS, UH, PROJECT TO HELP US EXECUTE.
WE'VE GOT GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS, IT'S FANTASTIC.
SO WHY IS THIS A GREAT EXAMPLE? IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE THE PROJECT CAME INTO FRUITION BECAUSE A RESIDENT CAME FORWARD AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE HAVING REALLY GREAT DIFFICULTIES CROSSING THE STREET.
IT WENT TO PUBLIC COMMENT, CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD, AND THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH, THE HU THE WHAT'S MY DIVISION, HOUSING URBAN IMPROVEMENT DIVISION BROUGHT THIS PROJECT TO COUNCIL SIX TIMES ON OUR OWN.
AND TWO OF THOSE TIMES INCLUDED SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS.
SO ONE OF THE PROPOSED, ONE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES WE'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS IF A PROJECT DOES NOT CHANGE BY SCOPE, BUDGET, LOCATION, OR BENEFICIARIES, BUT MORE THAN 50%, THAT THOSE CHANGES COULD BE CONSIDERED ADMINISTRATIVE AND HAPPEN IN-HOUSE.
AND WE COULD TAKE OR CONSERVE TIME FOR THAT PROJECT TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF THERE'S A THEME TO LIKE TO ALL OF MY PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.
SO LET'S KEEP THE MONEY MOVING.
SO IF YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND, WE'LL, WE'LL HANG TOGETHER.
SO KEEP IN MIND IF THE PROJECT DOESN'T CHANGE BY SCOPE, LOCATION, BUDGET AND BENEFICIARIES.
SO IT NEEDS THE, THE NATIONAL OBJECTIVE HAS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY PROGRESSIVES.
OVERALL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR EFFICIENT, OUR EFFICIENCIES, BOTH BY TIME AND BY FINANCIAL MEANS.
WHEN WE COME TO COUNCIL AND WE SAY WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT THAT'S PORTION, THAT'S ONE PORTION OF USUALLY A 90 DAY PROCESS, WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE.
WE TAKE IT TO THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY BOARD, AND THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.
THAT'S 90 DAYS WHERE OUR, WHERE MONEY'S SITTING STILL, WHICH DOESN'T INCLUDE THE STAFF TIME THAT IT TAKES FOR US TO PREPARE ALL THE DOCUMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S INVOLVED.
SO IF THERE, IF THERE ARE DOLLARS AVAILABLE FROM UNSPENT, UM, PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPLETED OR PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHDRAWN, WE'D LIKE TO BASICALLY KEEP THE MONEY MOVING.
AND THE, THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY HERE IS WE WOULD ONLY MOVE PROJECTS, MOVE SLOW DOWN.
WE WOULD ONLY MOVE FUNDING TO PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED IN THE ACTION PLAN.
THERE WOULD BE NO NEW MOVEMENT IF WE'VE ALREADY BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL.
YOU'VE GIVEN US YOUR BLESSING.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE DOLLARS MOVING, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH FEDERAL REGULATIONS AND, UM, MAINTAIN THEIR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO THE OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES, I HAVE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO.
WHEN I CAME TO COUNCIL LAST YEAR.
YOU ASKED ME ABOUT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROVISION AND WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE FOR APPLICANTS? SO WE'RE ROLLING THAT INTO OUR PROPOSED CHANGES.
IF WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S NEW OR THEY'VE HAD TO WITHDRAW FOR ANY REASON, BE IT THEIR OWN, OR WE HAD TO ASK THEM TO WITHDRAW, IT'S, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT REQUIRED THAT THEY GET TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE BEFORE APPLYING TO A NEW PROCESS, HOW IT'S MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
WE CAN HELP THEM WIN AND WE CAN, UM, BETTER SAVE OUR OWN TIME.
SIR
ALL THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING LONG BEFORE THEY GET TO THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY BOARD.
SO THERE'S A GOOD SCRUB BEFORE APPLICANTS MAKE IT TO THE ACT RECOMMENDED MAKE IT TO THE PLACE THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDED IN THE ACTION PLAN.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE WE BRING TO YOU A ROSTER OF, OF UM, ACTIVITIES.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF FEDERAL, FEDERAL
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REGULATIONS THAT ARE BEHIND THE SCENES TO HELP KEEP US IN LINE.OVER 70 PERC AT LEAST 70% OF OUR FUNDING MUST BE, UH, USED TO HELP PERSONS OF LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.
SO WE CANNOT DIVE, DIVERGE FROM THE PROCESS.
SO AGAIN, THE BIG TAKEAWAY HERE IS IF A SCOPE REMAINS THE SAME, IF A BUDGET INCREASES BY MORE THAN 50%, WE WOULD BRING THAT ITEM TO THE COUNCIL.
IF IT'S LEFT LESS THAN 50%, WE KEEP THAT AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF, UM, EXAMPLES THAT I'LL GIVE YOU LATER IN THIS PROCESS TONIGHT THAT ARE, UH, KEY IN OUR CURRENT CDBG ACTION PLAN.
SO I WON'T BELABOR TOO MANY POINTS FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
BASICALLY THESE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HELP US SPEND DOWN EFFICIENTLY.
JUST IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING.
YES, HUD DOES A TIMELINESS CHECK FOR US EVERY YEAR TO SEE WHAT PORTION OF OUR FUNDS ARE SPENT OR UNSPENT.
SO IF YOU HEAR NOTHING, IT'S GREAT NEWS.
IF YOU HEAR SOMETHING, IT'S AN UHOH AND IF THEY COME VISIT, IT'S A NO NO.
SO THIS WILL HELP US AGAIN TO KEEP MONEY MOVING FORWARD.
AND TONIGHT I'M ASKING FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN REVISIONS FROM COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. JOHNSON.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. JOHNSON? MM-HMM.
UM, SO YOU HAVE THE FOUR REASONS WHY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.
THE SCOPE, BUDGET, LOCATION, BENEFICIARY.
WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING BACK TO US BESIDES GOING OVER THE 50% GOING OVER? BESIDES GOING OVER 50%.
IT IF SOMETHING THAT WILL RAISE A RED FLAG FOR ALL OF US.
IF A LOW LOCATION OF A PROJECT CHANGED, THAT'S A ISSUE FOR US.
SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THERE OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THERE.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
SO MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S A MISCOMMUNICATION.
THE THE FOUR THINGS THAT MS. JOHNSON'S POINTING OUT HERE ARE WHEN THESE ITEMS DON'T CHANGE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE FURTHER COUNCIL ACTION.
IF ANY OF THOSE FOUR ITEMS DO CHANGE, THEN IT NEEDS TO COME BACK.
SO IT'S ONLY IF THOSE THINGS CHANGE, DO YOU HAVE TO BRING IT BACK? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YOUR FIRST QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
IF A SCOPED CHANGES BY MORE THAN 50%, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENT.
THIS IS NOT WHAT WE BROUGHT IN THE ACTION PLAN.
AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE, AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF OUTLANDISH BECAUSE IT SHOULD NOT EVER HAPPEN AND IT WILL SHOW IT.
WE FUND PROJECTS THAT ARE PUBLIC FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THE QUALIFYING AREA IS ONE OF OUR NORTH AND SOUTH TARGET AREAS.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT IS NOT AN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY.
SO WE WOULD BE LEAVING THE CONFINES OF THE REGULATIONS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND WE WOULD HAVE TO UNDO THE ACTION PLAN.
SO THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD CALL AN ANOMALY.
UM, IF WE WERE BUILDING A MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROPOSAL WERE FOR A, OH, LET'S SAY 111 UNITS LEADING INTO OUR, OUR, OUR FUTURE PROJECTS, IF THERE WERE SUDDENLY 50% OF THAT, WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO ALSO EXPLAIN TO US WHY THERE'D BE SUCH DRAMATIC SHIFT IN SCOPE.
THOSE ARE THE ANOMALIES THAT WE WOULD COME BACK TO SAY, SOMETHING HAS CHANGED, BUT HERE IS A LEGITIMATE REASON WHY OR WE NEED TO SCRAP THE PROJECT.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE HEADING.
UM, AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MORE OF A 50% INCREASE? 51.
IF, FOR EXAMPLE, I COULD REALLY GO BACK TO THE CROSSWALK.
ORIGINALLY THE COST ESTIMATES WERE ABOUT $600,000.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PROJECT WAS WELL OVER A MILLION.
SO WHILE WE COULD HAVE DONE THE SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS, WHICH WERE ROUGHLY ABOUT THREE, UH, $170,000 A PIECE, AT THE END OF THE, THE PROCESS, WE WOULD'VE NEEDED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THE, THE COSTS INCREASED SO DRAMATICALLY THAT THAT WOULD'VE, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A TRIGGER FOR US TO COME BACK.
'CAUSE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN THE PRICE POINT.
SO SAY IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE 501,000 BEFORE IT COMES BACK.
RIGHT? SO IF IT WAS $400,000, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO BRING IT BACK THEN.
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THE, THE, THE BENEFIT TO THIS PROCESS THAT WE WOULD, IT'S ALMOST AN UNSPOKEN THAT WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO HIS COUNCIL BECAUSE OUR ALLOCATION IS SO SMALL, WE WON'T EVER GET A, GET ENOUGH MONEY IN ONE, UM, DROP ONE ALLOCATION FROM HUD THAT WOULD GET US TO A POINT THAT WE COULD FULLY FUND THE PROJECT.SO IT COMES BACK IN THE FORM OF ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS IN THE YEARS TO COME.
SO THAT PROJECT, THE CROSSWALK WAS FUNDED IN 21, 22, 21 THROUGH 25 ACTUALLY.
AND TWO OF THOSE YEARS WAS SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T GET ENOUGH MONEY.
SO WE WOULD STILL KEEP COUNSEL UP TO DATE WITH ALL OF THE, UM, INCREASES THAT ARE HAPPENING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAD ONE.
SO I'M LOOKING AT, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU MS. KENNEDY.
BUT THE, ON THE LAST PIECE OF THIS NOTICE THAT WE HAVE HERE, UM, IT'S IN REGARDS TO CHANGING CERTAIN POLICIES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, I'M SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE GRIEVANCES AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENTS AT MEETINGS.
AT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MEETINGS.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU JUST ADDED A TABLE.
WAS THERE ANY CHANGES IN HOW WE DO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS AT MEETINGS? NO, SIR.
AND THEN FOR GRIEVANCES AND COMPLAINTS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES IN HOW WE'VE IN THE PAST HANDLED GRIEVANCES AND COMPLAINTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC? NO, SIR.
THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT THE, A PERSON WITH A GRIEVANCE CAN BRING THEM TO US.
THEY CAN, I'M THE HOUSING URBAN IMPROVEMENT MANAGER AND THE ANSWER'S NOT SATISFACTORY.
WE CAN BRING IT TO MY DIRECTOR.
AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB ON IT.
MY, MY QUESTION IS WHAT DO THEY HAVE HAS CHANGED TO BE COMPLIANT? BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING, UM, STRUCTURAL THAT SEEMED BIG AND I'M LIKE, MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
SO HOW TO ASK ONE, ONE OF THE MINOR CHANGES THAT WE DIDN'T THINK WAS NOTEWORTHY WAS JUST SOME REFORMATTING TO MAKE THINGS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
IT WASN'T BURIED IN THE TEXT ANYMORE.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
APPROVAL OF THE REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE CITIZEN PART PARTICIPATION PLAN.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BECK.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MS. BASSETT, DO YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION? I MADE, UH, YEP, I DID IT ALL.
NEXT UP WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
AND THIS YEAR'S ENTITLEMENT FUNDING IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $603,059.
THIS IS OUR HIGHEST ALLOCATION IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
SO WE ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT AND THIS IS VERY MUCH A FORMULA GRANT.
AND THE TONIGHT I WILL SEEK COUNSEL'S APPROVAL FOR THE 25 26 ACTION PLAN.
THE PLAN IS, IS INFORMED BY THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PROCESS, COMMUNITY SERVICE, COMMUNITY SURVEYS, AS WELL AS AGENCY, UM, AGENCY ENGAGEMENT.
I HIT THE CORRECT BUTTON IN OUR LEFT COLUMN.
HERE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATION OF ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES.
IN OUR RIGHT COLUMN, WE HAVE, UH, THE CATEGORIES REPRESENTED IN THE COMMUNITY NEEDS SURVEY.
THE COMMUNITY NEEDS SURVEY WAS A PART OF YOUR PACKET, SO I WILL NOT BELABOR THE POINT AND READ THOSE FINDINGS TO YOU.
UM, BUT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, WE HAVE, I USED THE SURVEY TO IDENTIFY THE NEEDS AND MADE THE CORRESPONDING RE UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACTIVITIES THAT SUPPORT THOSE NEEDS.
SO I'M JUST GONNA CUT TO THE CHASE TONIGHT AND PLEASE GO AHEAD AND PRO, UM, JUMP IN WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT TWO PROJECTS SPONSORED BY THE CITY'S PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS RECEIVE FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $31,000 AND $140,000 RESPECTIVELY.
UH, COVER PARK IS IN THE NORTH AREA AND RIVERVIEW AND BROTHERS PARK ARE IN THEIR SOUTHERN TARGET AREA.
UH, WE HAVE A HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED REHABILITATION PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING $131,998 35 CENTS.
WE ALSO FUND A POSITION IN HOUSE FOR OUR INSPECTOR.
WE ARE ALLOWED A PORTION OF THE FUNDING FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, AND WE PARTNER WITH BREVARD COUNTY HOME CONSORTIUM TO PROVIDE FAIR HOUSING, UH, ACTIVITIES.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE TONIGHT? I WILL SHARE WITH YOU LATER ON IN THIS PRESENTATION, UH, A COUPLE MAPS THAT ILLUSTRATE WHERE WE HAVE, UM, COMPLETED HOMEOWNER REPAIRS OF VARIOUS TYPES.
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THAT PROGRAM ALLOWS ST SENIORS AND INCOME ELIGIBLE PERSONS TO REMAIN STABLY HOUSED.SO PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM, OOPS, I, I THINK I SKIPPED A SLIDE BACK THERE, BUT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT I THINK YOU WILL REALLY LOVE THIS, IS THROUGH OUR PROCESS OF STREAMLINING, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH EACH OF THE, UH, APPLICATIONS, RANKED THEM, SCORED THEM, FOUND WAYS THAT WE COULD MAKE THE MA THE BEST MATCH.
THIS YEAR, WE INITIATED A THRESHOLD THAT THE MINIMUM MASS WAS $20,000 PER PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCY.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE FIVE AND $10,000 REALLY WEREN'T ON OUR, GET OUR PUBLIC SERVICES AS FAR AS THEY NEEDED TO.
IF WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR EXCELLENCE, WE NEED TO FUND THE MATTER RATE THAT THEY CAN AT LEAST REACH TOWARDS EXCELLENCE.
SO IN THE TOP, LEMME SLOW DOWN.
WE HAD 11 APPLICANTS, UH, APPLY FOR PUBLIC SERVICES.
HERE WE HAVE 10, UH, APPLICATIONS THAT WERE RANKED AND SCORED AND MADE IT BEYOND THE THRESHOLD AMOUNT.
YES, THERE ARE 10 THAT WE HAD A TIE FOR THREE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE.
SO THE TOP, GIVEN THAT THE MINIMUM MASS WAS $20,000, UH, WE KNEW THAT WE COULD FUND FOUR APPLICATIONS REPRESENTED IN THE TOP FOUR.
WE HAVE AGENCIES THAT SERVE ADULTS, YOUTH AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE.
SO WE HAVE HOMELESS YOUTH IN THAT POPULATION.
WE HAVE SUMMER CAMPS AND YEAR-ROUND PROGRAMS FOR YOUTH.
SHOULD ONE OF THE AGENCIES NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL THEIR GOALS IN A TIMELY FASHION, OR SHOULD THEY WITHDRAW? WE ARE, WE ASK COUNCIL THROUGH THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN TO GO TO THE NEXT HIGHEST RANKED ACTIVITY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? THIS YEAR WE HAD AN ACT, UH, A PROGRAM DROP DROPOUT, THEY WITHDREW.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THAT MONEY IS NOT ACTIVE AND IT WILL COUNT AGAINST US.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'RE JUST LEARNING TO DO THINGS A BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY.
SO ONCE SINCE THIS IS APPROVED, COME NEXT YEAR, IF SOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPENS, WE WILL SIMPLY MOVE DOWN TO THE NEXT HIGHEST RANKED AND THAT WOULD BE THE SOUTH ARTS WOMEN'S CENTER.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THEY'RE ALL WORTHY PROJECTS.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS BECAUSE OUR ALLOCATION IS NOT SO GREAT.
I SHOULDN'T SAY IT'S NOT GREAT.
AND THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE CAN GIVE ANY PUBLIC OR SET ASIDE FOR PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES IS 15% OF OUR TOTAL ALLOCATION.
WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FUND TAKE THE MONEY AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WE COULD DO LESS, BUT THIS IS THE MAX.
UH, UH, MS. JOHNSON, FIRST OFF, GOOD JOB.
UH, SINCE I KNOW YOU, YOU'VE BEEN, UH, ON BOARD AND REALLY WORKING WITH THESE PROGRAMS. SO ONE OF THE VISIONS THAT YOU HAD WAS MAKING SURE THAT THE APPLICATIONS, THAT THEY WERE PROVIDING BETTER WRITEUPS AND BETTER VALUE.
SO HOW CAN YOU, IN LIGHT OF WHAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING, CAN YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? CERTAINLY.
UH, LAST YEAR WE, SORRY I WAS DOING SO GOOD WITH MY VOICE.
UM, WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED AN ONLINE SOFTWARE WHERE A SOFTWARE, AN ONLINE PORTAL TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR ALL APPLICANTS TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION.
THERE'S NO SPACE OR CHARACTER LIMIT.
YOU CAN TAKE AS MUCH TIME AND SPACE TO TELL YOUR STORY.
UM, THERE'S A DIGITAL LAYOUT SO YOU CAN UPLOAD YOUR BUDGET.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PHYSICALLY COME TO OUR OFFICE TO HAND IN AN APPLICATION.
SO THAT GIVES US AN ALSO AN OPPORTU OFF AND OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE, UH, EACH DOCUMENT, IF YOU WILL, WITH ALL OF OUR REVIEWERS, WHETHER THEY'RE IN-HOUSE OR ON OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD.
THE SAME PLATFORM IS AVAILABLE FOR OUR HOMEOWNER REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
WE HAVE GONE PAPERLESS AND IT IS FANTASTIC.
UM, WE'VE DONE IT FOR OUR CONTRACTORS ARE NOW PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
UM, IF THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE, OUR BID PROCESS IS THERE.
UH, THE ONLY THING THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S WORKING.
WE ARE, AND WE'RE GETTING GOOD FEEDBACK FROM OUR SUB-RECIPIENTS.
UH, WE'RE LEARNING WHAT'S WORKING WELL AND WE'RE WHERE WE ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.
IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW? NO, NO, NO.
SO THAT COVERS THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND NON-PUBLIC SERVICES.
AND TONIGHT I ASKED FOR STAFF CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE 20 25 26 CDBG ACTION
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PLAN, PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES, AS WELL AS THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE AGREEMENTS FOR ALL SUB-RECIPIENTS.ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. JOHNSON? SEEING NONE, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? VICE MAYOR MA'AM? PUBLIC HEARING APPROVAL? OH, PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? ALRIGHT, OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
MS. HAMLEY APPROVAL OF PROJECT ACTIVITIES FOR THE FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR 20 25 26 C-B-C-B-D-C-D-B-G FUNDING WITHIN THE ACTION PLAN.
AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE THE SUB SUB AGREEMENTS, SUB AGREEMENTS FOR THE FOUR PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES WITH THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY.
ALRIGHT, SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY.
ALRIGHT, MS. JOHNSON, ALRIGHTYY, ARE WE HAVING A GOOD TIME? NEXT UP, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS ACTION PLAN AS WELL AS A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT.
AND WHAT MAKES THIS DIFFERENT? WE ARE A PART OF THE BREVARD COUNTY HOMES CONSORTIUM.
WE DO NOT RECEIVE HOME FUNDS DIRECTLY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT THROUGH A CONSORTIUM AS A GROUP, AS A PARTICIPATION PARTICIPATING ENTITY, IT'S JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
THE RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT WILL BE, UH, $258,000, 258,600.
$658,168 AND 55 CENTS IN HOME, AS WELL AS $175,538 IN THE SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT.
SO BRIEFLY, I'LL DESCRIBE THE PURPOSE OF HOME FUNDS.
HOME FUNDS CAN BE USED TO CONSTRUCT NEW HOMES, SINGLE, BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY RENTAL DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES.
WE COULD PROVIDE RENTAL SUBSIDIES AND REHABILITATION FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THIS YEAR.
FOR THE 25 26 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, THERE WERE TWO APPLICANTS.
ONE, APPLICANT PROPOSED 111 UNITS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND THE OTHER APPLICANT PROPOSED THE REHABILITATION OF SIX SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO QUICKLY AS AN OVERVIEW, AND THEN I'LL TAKE A DEEPER DIVE, VERY BRIEFLY, UM, PART OF THE MANDATORY SET, THERE'S ALSO A MANDATORY SET ASIDE, A 15% AND THAT 15% MUST BE, UH, DESIGNATED FOR A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION, OTHERWISE CALLED A CHODO.
THE OTHER, UH, DEDUCTIONS THERE REPRESENT ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR BOTH THE CITY AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.
SO THAT LEAVES US WITH $193,626 AND 42 CENTS AVAILABLE TO ALLOCATE TO A PROJECT.
SO THAT PROJECT, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT HOUSING, THE CREATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AN INCREDIBLE NEED IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
AND I THINK ROSS MAY HAVE TAPPED ON A FEW TOPICS THAT I DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT ANYMORE TONIGHT.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT PROPERTY, RIGHT, AND THAT WE NEED PROPERTY AND DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY.
FBC FLORIDA, FLORIDA BUSINESS CENTER AFFORDABLE PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 141 SLOW DOWN 111 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS WHERE IT'S 1 4 5 0 SOUTH BABCOCK.
AND I MUST, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING SHOULD YOU HAVE, HAVE VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
UH, THE PURPOSE FOR THIS ENTITY REACHING OUT TO US IS THEY, THEY INTEND TO APPLY FOR HOUSING TAX, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS FROM THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.
AND THAT APPLICATION REQUIRES A CONTRIBUTION OF $460,000 FROM A LOCAL ENTITY.
HERE IS A SITE FOR THOSE WHO ARE FAMILIAR AND HAVE LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH THAT YOU KNOW THIS AS THE OLD FLORIDA MARKETPLACE.
SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO HELP THIS ENTITY APPLY FOR TAX CREDITS FOR THE DESPERATELY NEEDED 111 UNITS HERE IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE? THE WAY THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THIS IS THROUGH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT I JUST MENTIONED IN THE HOME ACTION PLAN AND THE, UM, REALLOCATION OF FUNDS FROM AN OLD YEAR AND MOVE THEM FORWARD.
SO THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE BOARD.
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READ TO YOU LIKE YOUR CHILDREN, BUT GRACIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIPS ARE IMPORTANT.AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MIKE BEAN IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND HE IS THE CEO OF THE MELBOURNE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND THE MELBOURNE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS AGREED TO CONTRIBUTE THE BALANCE AND FILL IN THE GAP IN THE AMOUNT OF ROUGHLY $91,000 TO HELP GET US TO THE FOUR 60.
YES, A GREAT BIG THANKS THERE.
UM, THIS, THE FORM, THE, THE CONTRIBUTION IS REFERRED TO AS A-L-G-A-O AND I'LL TRY DESPERATELY NOT TO GEEK OUT ON YOU TONIGHT, BUT IN OUR NEXT ITEM WE'LL TALK ABOUT A FUNDING AGREEMENT AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT ARE THE CONTINGENCIES? I'LL GIVE YOU A SNEAK PREVIEW.
SHOULD THE APP, SHOULD THE PROJECT NOT BE AWARDED THE HOUSING TAX CREDITS, WE WOULD TAKE THOSE DOLLARS AND REALLOCATE THEM TO THE HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED THE HOMEOWNER REHAB PROGRAM.
WE KNOW WE CAN SPEND THE DOLLARS IN A, IN A TIMELY FASHION, BUT THIS IS ALSO A, A PRETTY EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY.
IT DOESN'T COME KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR EVERY DAY.
I'VE BEEN HERE THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND THIS IS THE FIRST LARGE DEVELOPMENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE MANAGED TO GET THIS FAR.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT FOR ROUGHLY TWO AND A HALF, NEARLY THREE YEARS NOW, UH, TO GET THIS TO THE APPROPRIATE PLACE.
BUT RELATIONSHIPS MATTER AND IT TOOK US A WHILE TO FIND THE RIGHT PARTNER.
TAKES A WHILE, TAKES A LITTLE DOING, SO WE THINK WE'VE GOT IT RIGHT THIS TIME.
SO THE MIX MIXTURE OF UNITS, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL, UH, THE PROPOSED UNIT DIS UM, COMPOSITION WILL BE 35 1 BEDROOMS, 60, 61 2 BEDROOMS, 15 THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
THERE'LL BE, UM, COMMERCIAL RETAIL ON SITE AS WELL AS AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS.
THIS IS A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT AND UM, THIS IS A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT, SO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE HORIZON, BUT WE'D LOVE TO GET THE FIRST 100 PLUS UNITS KICKED OFF.
AND JUST FOR A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE REHAB, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF OVER 30 YEARS OF REHAB PROJECTS IN THE CITY.
WE'VE ASSISTED NEARLY A THOUSAND HOMEOWNERS.
THAT'S 941, UM, HOMEOWNERS WITH ROUGHLY $21 MILLION.
THAT'S A SHOT OF OUR NORTH TARGET AREA WITH 84 PARTICIPANTS AS WELL AS THE SOUTH TARGET AREA WITH JUST SHY OF 500.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, OUR WHOLE TEAM IS HERE AND WE CAN, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO THE QUESTION ON, LET'S START WITH THE PARCEL ITSELF.
ARE THEY USING THE EXISTING BUILDING? THEY OWN THE PROPERTY.
WOULD THAT
SAY AGAIN? UM, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL TO PUT 'EM TO THE OTHER SIDE.
YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY OTHER SIDE.
AND HAVE, YOU MAY WANNA, YOU MAY WANNA GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE, WITH P, AFFORDABLE.
I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE PARCEL.
ARE YOU USING THE, ARE YOU USING THE EXISTING BUILDING AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW? ARE YOU, OKAY, SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU NO, ON THE WESTERN, ON THE WESTERN SIDE, IF YOU BRING IT UP, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT PLAN LEFT ON THE WESTERN SIDE, WE WOULD BE DEVELOPING THAT, THAT PARKING LOT.
SO THE, SO THE LARGE PARKING LOT.
SO YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THE BUILDING THERE.
EVERYTHING STAYS, YOU'RE JUST GONNA BUILD ON TOP OF THAT PARKING LOT, OKAY.
AND YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE COMMERCIAL AT THE BOTTOM OF IT.
IS THAT LIKE RETAIL OR, BECAUSE FOLKS AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE THAT FROM THE STREET? THAT'S RIGHT.
WE'RE CONTEMPLATING SOME, SOME RETAIL AT THE, AT THE BASE LEVEL.
ARE THESE APARTMENTS OR CONDOS? APARTMENTS.
UM, AND THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OF A STAFF QUESTION ON THE TAX CREDITS, SINCE WE JUST HAD A LOVELY LONG TIME DISCUSSION ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF PROPERTY TAX.
UM, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO EARN REVENUE WITH THE PARCEL OF LAND KNOWING THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SERVICES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? IS, IS IT GONNA AFFECT OUR, IS IT GONNA AFFECT OUR PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE GET FROM THE PARCEL IN A NEGATIVE WAY? SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND.
YOU'RE ASKING WITH THESE TAX CREDITS, CORRECT? IF SO, IT WON'T, IT, IT WON'T, UM, INCREASE OUR TAX REVENUE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? RIGHT.
IS IT, IS IT GOING TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE OR DOES IT DECREASE OUR TAX
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REVENUE? DOES IT REMAIN THE SAME? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BECAUSE I HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW THAT ACTUAL, UM, MECHANISM IS FOR THE, I'M TRYING TO READ THROUGH HERE.HERE SHE COMES TO SAVE THE DAY, THE RESCUE, RIGHT? I THINK, I THINK COUNCIL MAY BE MISUNDERSTANDING.
SO FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE COMMISSION STATE ORGANIZATION, THEY RUN THIS LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT PROGRAM.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PROPERTY TAXES.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED MAKE SURE IF THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR PROPERTY TAXES IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
I JUST HAVE COUNCIL WASN'T CONFUSED.
SO THIS, THE EXISTING BUILDING'S GONNA STAY THERE AS IS, UM, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN THERE THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA STAY THERE AND THEN THE BUILDING'S GONNA BE BUILT TO THE WEST SIDE BY THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX BEHIND THERE.
DIDN'T THIS COME BEFORE US? ONCE BEFORE, YES.
YEAH, WE'VE BEEN, ITS BEEN A RIDE.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT GO THIS TIME, RIGHT?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THAT'S IT.
DO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, UH, IN YOUR PRESENTATION? NO.
WE'RE JUST VERY EXCITED TO GET THIS PROJECT TO THIS POINT FINALLY AND GIVE THEM A, A FIGHTING CHANCE TO COMPETE FOR TAX CREDITS.
SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION VICE MAYOR MA'AM.
APPROVAL APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ACTIVITY FOR FIN FINANCE YEAR 20 25, 20 26 HOME FUND AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGERS TO SUBMIT FOR INCLUSION IN THE BAVAR COUNTY HOME CONSORT CONSORTIUM COL CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
DO WE HAVE ANY SIGNUP SHEETS? SEEING NONE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT COUNSEL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I SEE, UH, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR MA'AM.
APPROVAL OF SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE FINANCIAL YEAR.
D-I-D-I-D-I-S, PROJECT NUMBER SIX OF THE BAVAR COUNTY HOME CONSORTIUM.
2022 TO 2027 CONSOLIDATED PLAN TO THE FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26 HOME ACTION PLAN AND REALLOCATION OF ONE THOU $175,538 TO RENTAL DEVELOPMENT.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 22, MS. JOHNSON.
UH, THANK YOU MS. KENNEDY FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT YES, WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS PROJECT TO CITY COUNCIL BEFORE, AND AS I MENTIONED, RELATIONSHIPS ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT IN FINDING THE RIGHT PARTNER.
THIS TIME WE HAVE THE RIGHT PARTNER, AND NOW WE HAVE A FUNDING AGREEMENT.
SO WE'VE MANAGED TO MAKE IT OVER SEVERAL HURDLES TO GET TO THIS POINT.
OUR PREVIOUS PARTNER WAS NOT ABLE TO EXECUTE.
OUR CURRENT PARTNER FOR THIS FUNDING AGREEMENT IS THE MELBOURNE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND I MENTIONED MIKE BEAN IS HERE.
SO, UM, I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE AS THE, AS WE'VE BUILT UP OVER THE LAST SEVERAL ITEMS. WE NOW UNDERSTAND THAT $460,000 IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT TO APPLY FOR THE LOW FOR THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS THROUGH THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.
AND THIS GETS US CLOSER TO BEING ABLE TO FILL THE GAP FOR THE HIGH NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
THE FUNDING CONDITIONS ARE ALL SPELLED IN THIS AGREEMENT.
UH, THERE ARE STATEMENTS AND PROVISIONS IN THE AGREEMENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE NOT RECEIVE THEIR HOME FUNDING, THE AGREEMENT IS NULL AND VOID.
SHOULD THE APPLICANT NOT RECEIVE THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, THE AGREEMENT IS NULL AND VOID.
SO THERE ARE, UM, ELEMENTS IN PLACE TO PROTECT BOTH THE CITY, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT.
AND ALL THAT IS SPELLED OUT WITHIN THE AGREEMENT.
WE'VE HAD OUR FANTASTIC, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REVIEW THE AGREEMENT FOR US.
SO WE ARE IN VERY GOOD HANDS AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. JOHNSON?
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SEEING NONE, UH, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING UP MR. MICHAEL BEAN FROM THE MELBOURNE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, FOR MR. BEAN? SEEING NONE.
OKAY, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, APPROVAL OF THE FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THE MELBOURNE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR $90,857 AND 58 CENTS.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BASSETT.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ADAM, ARE YOU READING THE RESOLUTION OR JUST GO TO CINDY? THANKS, ABBY.
YEAH, I, I DON'T HAVE TO READ THE RESOLUTION.
UH, WE HAVE MS. DIMMER PRESENTING.
UM, SO THIS IS A REQUEST FROM, UM, STAFF TO, UM, APPROVE A NEW RESOLUTION THAT WILL AMEND RESOLUTION NUMBER 43 56, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, THE, UM, THAT RESOLUTION 43 56 APPROVED THE NEW DEVELOPMENT FEES FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, ENGINEERING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE RESOLUTION INCLUDED AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2025.
HOWEVER, THE STAFF MEMO AND ITEM REPORT REFLECTED THE FEES, UM, BEING EFFECTIVE ON JULY 1ST, 2025.
SO, APOLOGIES FOR, UM, OUR ERROR IN GETTING THAT.
WE'RE REQUESTING THIS NEW RESOLUTION THAT WILL AMEND THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION WITH THE CORRECT JULY 1ST, 2025, UM, DATE FOR THE, UM, CHANGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT FEES.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DILER? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION VICE MAYOR MA'AM.
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4 3 5 7.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BASSETT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. SMITH.
ITEM NUMBER 25 BOARD APPOINTMENTS.
WE ARE PRESENTING WITH KEVIN MCEWEN.
THE TERMS OF SEVERAL REGULAR MEMBERS WILL EXPIRE ON JUNE 30TH.
ONE OF THOSE REGULAR MEMBERS DOES NOT WANT TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THE BOARD AND THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL VACANCY ON THIS BOARD.
AND AS IS OUR PROCESS WITH THIS PARTICULAR BOARD, WE PROVIDE ALL THE BOARD APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER WHO'S REVIEWED THE CURRENT MEMBERS, UH, APPLICATIONS WHO'D LIKE TO BE REAPPOINTED, AND THE ONE OUTSIDE APPLICANT WE HAVE.
AND SHE CONCURS WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT SARAH BRANDAND, ELIZABETH HIGH, AND DOLORES GORE AS REGULAR MEMBERS TO APPOINT RODERICK QUEEN AND SHANE SULLIVAN AS REGULAR MEMBERS AND TO APPOINT CATHERINE BRODERICK AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KEVIN? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. KENNEDY.
I SECOND A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AND I VOTE.
AND THE MOTION PASSES AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM D, PETITIONS FOR MON AND COMMUNICATIONS.
OH, MY ITEM B FOR THE OLD GALA.
UH, SO THIS BOARD IS SIMILAR, THE TERMS OF SEVERAL REGULAR MEMBERS AND AN ALTERNATE MEMBER WILL EXPIRE ON JUNE 11TH.
ALL OF THOSE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO BE REAPPOINTED.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OUTSIDE APPLICATIONS ON FILE.
SO THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO REAPPOINT GEORGE ALEXANDER, KAREN KISSICK, DAVID WICKHAM, AND BUZZ UNDERHILL AS REGULAR MEMBERS.
AND EDLIN JOHN, UH, JOHANSON AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION QUESTION FOR KEVIN? MM-HMM.
SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BASSA, SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY.
ITEM D PETITIONS ARE MON AND COMMUNICATIONS.
UM, I, ALL I HAVE IS, UH, THE OTHER NIGHT I GOT TO GO TO THE, UM, MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT SPIRIT OF GIVING, UM, THAT WAS THE, TO BENEFIT THE, THE KIDS AT CHRISTMAS TIME.
SO IT WAS A LOT OF FUN TO GO TO AND, AND REALLY NICE KNOWING THAT THE MONEY WENT TOWARDS, UH, CHILDREN TO GET PRESENTS, UH, FOR CHRISTMAS.
MS. HANLEY? UM, LAST WEEK I WENT TO THE FDOT ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY IN FLORIDA.
UM, THERE'S GOING TO, I'M GONNA COME BACK.
THEY HAVE A POWERPOINT SO I CAN GET IT ALL TOGETHER.
IT'S THE GEORGE JETSONS HAVE COME, WE'RE GOING TO, WHAT IT IS IS THAT IT'S ELECTRIC AIRPLANES.
IT WILL, RIGHT NOW THEY GO A DISTANCE OF A HUNDRED MILES AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE AT THE AIRPORT.
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BE FUELED BY KIND OF LIKE YOUR TESLAS RIGHT NOW, PLUG IN AND IF THERE IS SOMEBODY FLIES INTO THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT, WE CAN TAKE 'EM RIGHT TO THE CAPE, BUT DON'T HAVE TO BE IN OUR, UM, ON OUR ROADS.WHICH IS KIND OF A, IF WE'VE GONE DOWN US ONE OR A ONE A AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, IT WOULD BE BETTER.
BUT I DO HAVE STUFF FROM THAT.
I WILL BE GETTING YOU THE POWERPOINTS LATER ON IN THE, UM, PROBABLY IN JULY HERE.
I THINK THIS WAS A LITTLE MUCH TONIGHT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TOO MANY THINGS.
SO IT WASN'T GONNA BE, EVERYBODY WOULD BE SLEEPING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO I'LL BE DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE PUSHING THAT THROUGH THE WHOLE STATE THAT WE GET OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS UP TO DATE SO THAT WE ALLOW THESE INTO THE CITIES.
MISSED MUNICIPALITIES, MS. KENNEDY.
SO I JUST GOT BACK FROM, UH, PORT CHARLOTTE.
I HAD THE, UH, PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON THE, UM, FLORIDA LEAGUE CITY'S NOMINATING COMMITTEE FOR THE NEXT SECOND VICE PRESIDENT WHO WILL BE EVENTUALLY BECOMING THE FIRST VICE PRESIDENT.
SO, UM, THAT WAS AN INTERESTING PROCESS.
SO, UM, I, HOPEFULLY I REPRESENTED THE SPACE COAST AND MELBOURNE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, UH, FROM OUR, UH, WORKSHOP MEETING THAT WE HAD ON HOMELESS, UH, THE, WITH THE HOMELESS COALITION, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
BUT, UH, I WAS TASKED WITH DOING SOMETHING WITH ASSET MAPPING.
UH, SO I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH, UH, UH, UH, LOVE INC.
ALSO MEETING WITH FAMILY PROMISE OF BAVAR AND THEY'VE HAD SEVERAL INITIATIVES UP IN TITUSVILLE AND ALSO COCO AND, UH, LOVE INC.
IS LOOKING TO COME BRIEF US AT THE JULY 22ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH AN UPDATE, UH, TALK WITH CITY MANAGER.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, SORT OF GET AGREEMENT FROM EVERYBODY TO, TO GET THAT UPDATE.
AND THEY, AND THEY WANT TO, FROM THAT MEETING, HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING WITH OTHER NONPROFITS IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
UH, BUT THEY WANT TO COME PRESENT TO US FIRST ON THE 22ND.
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN MELBOURNE MAIN STREET CAME, IT WAS KINDA LIKE THIS FIVE TO 10 MINUTE THING AT THE BEGINNING AND THE PROCLAMATIONS PIECE? OR IS THIS GONNA BE A LONGER DISCUSSION ITEM? HE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION ON? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRESENTATION, LIKE JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, THE LENGTH THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
I I, I DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE LONGER THAN, THAN I WOULD SAY THAN 10 MINUTES.
AND, AND, AND IT MAY, THE BIG PORTION MAY BE OUR QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXPECTATIONS.
JENNY, UH, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE BEST FOR US? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO MOTION AND SECOND THIS TO GET IT ON.
SO WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE, TO GIVE YOU ALL DIRECTION TO PUT IN APPRO APPROPRIATE LOCATION? I THINK IF IT'S A PRESENTATION, I'M NOT SURE WE NEED A MOTION OR NOT, HOWEVER OKAY.
IF WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE UNDER 10 MINUTES.
YEAH, I, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BE A PRESENTATION IF WE THINK IT'S GOING TO GO MORE LIKE 15, 20 PLUS MINUTES.
I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
SO AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINE WITH LIKE THE 10 MINUTE YEAH.
YOU, YOU EVERYONE, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT MR. SMITH? ALL RIGHT.
UH, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM US, JENNY? WE'RE GOOD.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT WAS CONSENSUS.
UH, WE VENTURE AND, UH, KATHERINE RUDLOFF, UH, ALSO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, UH, ANOTHER PRESENTATION ITEM.
UH, WE VENTURE AS YOU KNOW, THAT THEY, WOMEN IN BUSINESS, THEY GOT THE BIG FUNDRAISER, WINE, WOMEN AND SHOES.
AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING SOME THINGS AROUND OTHER, WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, I'VE ASKED THEM TO COME AND PRESENT TO US SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE CONSIDERATION, UH, OF WHAT FLORIDA TECH'S RIGHT HERE IN OUR, IN OUR AREA, IN OUR BACKYARD.
SO THINK THAT IT'S WORTHWHILE PRESENTATION IN LITTLE GROWERS IS ANOTHER ONE.
DO YOU WANT THAT ON THE SAME MEETING? YOU WANT ALL THOSE ON JULY 10TH? SO JULY 22ND.
SO, AND THEY WOULD ALL BE ON THE SAME DAY.
SO YOU WANT 30 MINUTES WORTH OF PRESENTATIONS FROM THREE DIFFERENT, LIKE 10 FROM EACH ORGANIZATION.
I MEAN, IF, IF I WONDER IF WE COULD SPREAD IT OUT JUST YEAH, WE COULD
AND, AND IF WE WERE GONNA SPREAD IT OUT, THEN I THINK THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE LITTLE GROWERS, AND I KNOW, UH, UH, WE HAD THEM PRESENT AT THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE HAD THAT PRESENTATION HERE FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
SO, SO WE CAN PROBABLY PUSH THAT ONE TO ANOTHER DATE.
WE REALLY NEED TO VICE MAYOR, LET ME, THIS AIR MOBILITY.
THIS IS FDO T'S PUSHING THIS AND THEY WANT THIS UP AND DO UP AND UP AND READY BY 2028.
SO I'M GONNA ASK THAT, UM, MAYBE ONE OF THEM BE PUSHED BACK SO THAT I HAVE TIME TO, TO PRESENT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS, THEY'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, THEY'RE REALLY PUSHING THIS ISSUE.
THIS IS FDOT, THE STATE WANTS TO BE NU NUMBER ONE IN THE COUNTRY TO DOING THE EAR MOBILITY.
SO I'M GONNA ASK THAT MAYBE THEY CAN BE PUSHED BACK.
YEAH, I THINK THAT I WOULD AGREE THE LITTLE GROWERS.
UM, BUT THE OTHER TWO ARE A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE TIME SENSITIVE, BUT, AND THEY MAY NOT EVEN TAKE THE FULL 10 MINUTES, BUT YEAH.
MS. KENNEDY JU JUST A SUGGESTION, UM, JUST TO BRING THIS UP.
WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO DO THIS JUST BEFORE THE MEETING AT SIX O'CLOCK AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT AT
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SIX 30 AND THEN TAKING THE TIME THROUGH THE MEETING? WOULD THAT BE FEASIBLE? WE, WE'D HAVE TO START THE MEETING AT SIX I THINK IS MY, YOU'D YOU'D BASICALLY BE CALLING FOR LIKE A HALF HOUR SPECIAL MEETING PRIOR TO THE REGULAR MEETING.IS IS THAT WHAT YOU, IS THAT SOMETHING THROWING THAT OUT THERE? WELL, NO.
IS THAT SOMETHING STILL KNOWING THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE STILL INTERESTED IN? WHAT WERE YOU SAYING MS. BASSETT? I WAS GONNA SAY, I MEAN IF THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOWN FOR IT.
WELL, 'CAUSE WE HAVE FOUR TOTAL ITEMS TECHNICALLY ON THAT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, I MEAN, I I WAS, IF YOU WANNA DO THAT AS A FULL, AS A THING, WHAT, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ON THIS SIDE? I, I THINK THAT WE DO IT AS A SPECIAL MEETING IN THE, IN THE FRONT END.
SO THAT, THIS WAY AT THE END, AT SIX 30, WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN THAT WE GOTTA STOP SURE.
AND GO INTO THE, SO PUT ALL FOUR 30 MINUTES PRIOR.
AND DO THAT ON THE JULY YOU SAID 22ND.
SO, OR WE CAN BUST IT UP TO TWO DIFFERENT, UH, IS IT 40 MINUTES? WELL, WELL IF THEY, IF THEY EACH TOOK 10 MINUTES, IT'D BE FAIR.
IF EVERYONE USES A FULL 10 MINUTE PERIOD, YOU LET THEM KNOW THAT
WELL, SO THAT BEING SAID, ADAM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, YOU MAY WELL, AND, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WHEN WE DO A SPECIAL MEETING RIGHT, WE WOULD ADVERTISE AS A SPECIAL MEETING WITH THE REGULAR MEETING TO FOLLOW THEREAFTER ONCE THAT SPECIAL MEETING ENDS.
SO IT'S NOT, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S NECESSARILY TIME CERTAIN RIGHT.
I THINK IT'S JUST WE'LL BUDGET OUR TIME APPROPRIATELY TO, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE ON TRACK.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT, I GUESS I GUESS IF WE'RE CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING IS FINE, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S WHAT, WHAT FORMAL ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN? YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD WE CALL IT A WORKSHOP WITH ANY OF THE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
IF THEY WERE TRULY JUST, IF THEY WERE TRULY JUST LIKE, UM, STAKEHOLDER PRESENTATIONS OF HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, HERE'S, HERE'S THINGS THAT WE DO.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CALL IT A WORKSHOP.
CALLING IT A SPECIAL MEETING JUST GIVES THAT OPPORTUNITY IF THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE ACTION ITEMS, IF THERE IS FORMAL ACTION TO BE TAKEN, THEN WE'RE COVER, WE'RE COVERED IN THAT REGARD AS WELL.
'CAUSE MS. STANLEY, YOU WANT ACTION IS MY WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, HAVE TO DO ACTION.
I MEAN WE MIGHT NOT BE DOING IT THAT MOMENT, BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME ALONG.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UM, DO THIS EVENTUALLY.
IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE'LL BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL SO THAT WELL, SO THEN YOU'D BE OKAY WITH THE WORKSHOP TO FOLLOW? WE COULD TALK ABOUT ADDING AGAIN IN AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
AND THEN MR. SMITH, ARE THERE ANY ACTION ITEMS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING AT THIS THING? OR IS A WORKSHOP A MAIN BOLT TO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO? I, I DON'T, MAYBE THE ASSET MAPPING POTENTIALLY, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE ANY HARD POTENTIAL ACTIONS.
IT'S MORE FOR US SITUATIONAL AWARENESS.
AND THEN WELL, AND THEN ADAM JUST ADDING ONTO THAT.
'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE BOARD WE'RE TRYING TO TRUNCATE THIS INTO SOMETHING AND NOT LET IT EXPAND.
CAN WE PUT LIKE, WE HAVE AN 11 O'CLOCK CUTOFF HERE.
CAN WE PUT A SIX 30 CUTOFF FOR THAT MEETING UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE BOARD? SURE.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF YOUR, YOUR THE BOARD'S DISCRETION ON HOW WELL WE CAN DO THAT AS PART OF THIS MOTION THOUGH, AND THEN THAT, OR DOES IT HAVE TO HAPPEN AT THAT MEETING? NO, I, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE UNDERSTANDING RIGHT, THAT, THAT THE GOAL, THE GOAL IS TO SET THAT PARAMETER, RIGHT? AND, AND WE COULD ADD LANGUAGE TO THAT, TO THAT, YOU KNOW, MEETING NOTICE OF WE'RE DOING THIS WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'LL END AT THIS TIME UNLESS, YOU KNOW, UNLESS APPROVED BY COUNSEL FOR AN EXTENSION.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE REGULAR MEETING, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWS THEREAFTER.
DOES, IS EVERYONE GOOD WITH THAT? I'LL TAKE A MOTION IF WE WANT APPOINTMENT.
JAY'S GOT A QUESTION? OH, JENNY, JUST MAKING SURE.
SO WE HAVE THE ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY, WE HAVE THE ASSET MAPPING, WE HAVE WE VENTURE AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE OR LITTLE GROWERS.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A WORKSHOP NOT EXCEEDING 30 MINUTES UNLESS APPROVED BY COUNSEL, UH, BEFORE THE JULY 22ND MEETING.
UH, VICE MAYOR MA'AM? UH, SO MOVED.
ANYTHING ELSE MR. SMITH? NOPE, SIR.
ALRIGHT, MR. LUSO, UM, I'M NOT GONNA SEE YOU CRAZY KIDS UNTIL, UH, JULY ANOTHER MONTH FROM NOW.
UH, UNLESS I SEE YOU AT THE 4TH OF JULY, UH, MELBOURNE, UH, PARADE AND THE, UM, AND THE FIREWORKS AS WELL TOO.
UH, SO, UM, UH, IT'S THE ONE THING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IS I BRING MY GRANDCHILDREN ON THE, UM, ON THE FIRETRUCK, WHICH IS ALWAYS A, A BLAST FOR THEM AND ME AND YOU.
UM, THE, UM, UH, I ASKED FOR, UH, UH, A LIST OF BIRTHDAYS, UH, FOR A SPECIFIC REASON, UH, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
AND MS. LAMB PROVIDED IT TO ME.
AND SO, UM, WE WILL MISS, UM, HAVING, UH, YOUR BIRTHDAY MS. HADLEY ON JUNE 18TH.
CUT IT UP PLEASE, PLEASE JUST CUT IT OFF.
IT'S NOT IF THERE'S REASON WHY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
I JUST, NO, THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU DON'T
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DO THAT.WELL, I DON'T KNOW A GOOD REASON, BUT YOU CAN YOU, CAN YOU EMAIL ME THE REASONS? OKAY.
SORRY TO BE CON COURTEOUS TO YOU.
UM, THESE CO COOKIES, REMEMBER THERE'S A 3D GLASSES ON THE BACK.
YOU PUT IT ON AND YOU LOOK AT THE COOKIE, YOU DON'T PUT THE GLASSES ON AND LOOK AT THE SUN.
UM, AND THEN FOR MY UPDATE THIS PAST WEEK, I GOT TO GO TO WASHINGTON, DC TO MEET WITH SOME LOCALS AS WELL.
ALSO SOME FLORIDA FLORIDIANS THAT WERE PUT INTO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
THEY HAD OFFERED TO HELP US OUT, WHETHER IT'S ON GRANTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, REGARDING SOME OF OUR PARKS.
UM, AS WELL AS THE GREATER NEEDS OF OUR, LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, ESTUARIES AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO, HAD A REALLY GREAT PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH, UH, SEVERAL FLORIDIANS THAT HAVE BEEN POPPED UP TO DC.
ALSO SAW CONGRESSMAN HERE AT OUO.
HE SENDS HIS, UH, REGARDS TO ALL OF US AND WE HAVE A VERY GREAT FRIEND WITH HIM IN DC.
SO, ALL THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S ALL I GOT.
SO I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 10:08 PM ALRIGHT.