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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE APRIL 8TH REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, LET ME REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, AND SUBMIT THE COMPLETED FORM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, USE THE MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND EITHER AND AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR YOUR NAME AND CITY.

SPEAK TO CITY COUNCIL'S A BODY.

DO NOT ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY.

BE MINDFUL OF THE TIMER ON THE LECTERN AND RAMP UP YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE YOUR SPEAKING TIME ENDS.

THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FOR AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE OR PERSON WHO HAS LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE.

A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME AS REASONABLY DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE A RECORD BEFORE THE CITY.

ANY PERSON WHO MAKES PERSONAL IMP PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS OR DISRESPECTFUL WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION.

IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND POWER HEADS PLEASE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE PRAY FOR THE FLOURISHING OF OUR COMMUNITY, SPIRITUALLY, SOCIALLY, AND ECONOMICALLY.

MAYBE WE WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A PLACE WHERE ALL ARE VALUED, WHERE JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS PREVAIL, AND WHERE THE NEEDS OF THE MOST VULNERABLE ARE MET.

HELP US TO LISTEN ATTENTIVELY TO ONE ANOTHER.

THAT ONE WAS HARD WITH OPEN HEARTS AND MINDS.

MAY WE NOT BE QUICK TO JUDGE OR CRITICIZE, BUT INSTEAD SEEK TO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

IN OUR NAME WE PRAY, OUR LORD.

THANK YOU.

AMEN.

ALRIGHT, IF EVERYONE WILL JOIN ME WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MR. MCCUNE, WILL YOU PLEASE DO THE ROLE? COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER RUSSO PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT.

HERE.

VICE MAYOR NEWMAN.

HERE.

MAYOR, OFFICER WILL NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

ALRIGHT, LET'S GO INTO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PROCLAMATION DECLARING APRIL 13TH THROUGH 19 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATORS WEEK.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY UP FOR THIS? OH, HERE TO ACCEPT THE COMMUNICATIONS IS, UH, COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, CARRIE, SERGEANT AND COMMUNICATIONS SUPERVISORS, JOE BOOTH AND CHELSEA JOHNSON.

UH, JOINED BY OUR CHIEFS.

ALRIGHT, THERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT, LET ME READ THE PROCLAMATION.

UH, WHEREAS EMERGENCIES REQUIRE POLICE, FIRE, OR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES CAN OCCUR AT ANY TIME.

AND WHEREAS WHEN AN EMERGENCY OCCURS, THE PROMPT RESPONSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS IS CRITICAL TO THE PROTECTION OF LIFE AND PRESERVATION OF PROPERTY.

AND WHEREAS THE SAFETY OF POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS IS DEPENDENT ON THE QUALITY AND ACCURACY OF INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM THE CITIZENS WHO TELEPHONE THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNICATION CENTER.

AND WHEREAS THE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS AND DISPATCHERS ARE THE SINGLE LINKS TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS MONITORING ACTIVITIES BY RADIO AND BY PROVIDING VITAL INFORMATION TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY.

AND WHEREAS EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNICATION CENTER HAS EXHIBITED COMPASSION, UNDERSTANDING, AND PROFESSIONALISM DURING THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR JOB IN THE PAST YEAR.

AND WHEREAS ALL CITIZENS OWE A DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO THESE UNSEEN EMERGENCY RESPONDERS FOR THEIR SPEED TIRELESS PROFESSIONALISM AND COMMITMENT TO CARING FOR OTHERS.

AND WHEREAS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATORS PERSONNEL DESERVE OUR LASTING RESPECT AND GRATITUDE, NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I PAUL RE MAYOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 13TH THROUGH 19TH 2025 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, AND ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO JOIN IN HONORING THE MEN AND WOMEN WHOSE DILIGENCE AND PROFESSIONALISM KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE.

SAFE WITNESS BY MY HAND, THE SEAL CITY THIS EIGHTH DAY OF APRIL, 2025.

ALRIGHT, DID YOU GUYS WANT US TO, YOU GUYS? ANYTHING? ALRIGHT.

QUICK PICTURE.

DO YOU GUYS WANNA HOLD IT? THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, NEXT UP.

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NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

SPEECH .

ALRIGHT, NEXT BOOK, A PROCLAMATION DECLARING APRIL, 2025 AS PARKINSON'S DISEASE AWARENESS MONTH.

UH, COMING UP.

HEY, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU.

I KNOW, I'M SORRY.

ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT, SO LET ME READ THE PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS PARKINSON'S DISEASE IS A NEURODEGENERATIVE DISEASE THAT PRIMARILY AFFECTS DOPAMINE PRODUCING NEURONS IN A CERTAIN PART OF THE BRAIN.

PARKINSON'S IS ALSO A MOBILITY DISORDER WITH SYMPTOMS APPEARING OVER TIME.

AND WHEREAS MORE THAN 10 MILLION PEOPLE WORLDWIDE ARE CURRENTLY LIVING WITH PARKINSON'S DISEASE AND NEARLY 1 MILLION LIVE WITH THIS DISEASE IN THE UNITED STATES, FLORIDA HAS THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF STATE POPULATION WITH PARKINSON'S DISEASE IN THE NATION.

APPROXIMATELY ONE IN 100 PEOPLE IN BREVARD COUNTY HAVE PARKINSON'S DISEASE.

AND WHEREAS PEOPLE WITH PARKINSON'S CAN ENHANCE THEIR DAILY LIFE QUALITY WITH HIGHLY EFFECTIVE EXERCISES TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THIS DISEASE, BOXING HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN REDUCING SYMPTOMS AND ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PATIENTS WITH PARKINSON'S DISEASE THROUGH THE BUILDING STRENGTH, BALANCE, FLEXIBILITY, AND SPEED.

AND WHEREAS WE REMEMBER THE RED TULIP AS THE GLOBAL SYMBOL OF PARKINSON'S DISEASE AS ESTABLISHED AT A SUMMIT IN LUXEMBOURG IN APRIL 11TH, 2005.

AND WHEREAS DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL, WE REMEMBER THOSE LOSS TO PARKINSON'S DISEASE FOR OFFER OUR SUPPORT TO, UH, PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND HIGHLIGHT OUR COMMITMENT TO BETTER PREVENT DETECTION AND TREATMENT METHODS.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, PAUL RE MAYOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL, 2025 AS PARKINSON'S DISEASE AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND ALL RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT THE RESEARCH AWARENESS AND TREATMENT OF PARKINSON'S DISEASE.

WITNESS MY HAND AND THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE THIS 25TH DAY OF MARCH, 2025.

AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO JANICE MOYA AND ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU'VE, I'VE KNOW I'VE SEEN FROM, NOT, NOT THE BEGINNING, BUT FROM A FEW RECENT YEARS ABOUT ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO AT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

AND IT'S JUST REALLY AMAZING WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.

YEP.

DID YOU GUYS, DO YOU WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS? NO.

ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE A PIC.

YOU WANT, I WROTE A LITTLE SPEECH BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WOULD CHICKEN OUT, SO I AS WELL DO THAT.

, HE KNOWS ME SO WELL.

YEAH, YEAH.

UM, GIVE ME A MICROPHONE.

I'M ALMOST LIKE A POLITICIAN.

UM, ALMOST NEVER TO BE.

UH, SO FIRST THING I WANNA DO IS THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING US TO, IN THE PARKS AND RECTOR, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT FOR HAVING A WONDERFUL VENUE THAT YOU HAVE IN THE JIMMY MOORE PARK.

MM-HMM .

WE JUST HAD OUR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER THERE, WE HAD ALMOST 120 PLAYERS.

UH, THOSE COURTS ARE BEAUTIFUL, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, SPECIAL THANKS TO COUNCILMAN NEWMAN, UH, FOR ALL HIS SUPPORT AND ASSISTANCE WITH THIS PROGRAM.

AND AS SHE NEVER WANTS ME TO DO THANK MY WIFE JANICE, FOR HER TIRELESS AND SELFLESS FULL-TIME VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO PROVIDE HER CLIENTS WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THEY WERE NEVER EXPECTED TO HAVE.

PEOPLE ARE WALKING AGAIN WITHOUT THE AID OF ASSISTED DEVICES.

MUSICIANS ARE PLAYING MUSIC AGAIN AND PEOPLE ARE DANCING WHEN THEY NEVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD EVER DANCE AGAIN.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

AND FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO, I'LL GRAB A PICTURE REAL QUICK.

DO YOU WANNA HOLD YOUR, DO YOU WANT HOLD YOUR PROCLAMATION? THERE WE GO GUYS, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU.

YOU'RE SO WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU.

ALRIGHT.

COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME HELP US WITH THIS ONE? SURE.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT, SO WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE RECOGNIZING THE MAXWELL, UH, C KING CENTER BEING ONE OF THE 2024 TOP 200 THEATER VENUES WORLDWIDE.

I'M HERE TO ACCEPT, THIS IS BOB PKE, THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE KING CENTER.

BOB, YOU WANNA COME UP? DO YOU WANNA LEAD ON THIS? SURE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, BOB.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I'M KIND OF A NEWS FREAK, SO, UM, MR. HELLO.

OKAY.

LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ALL THE NCAA BASKETBALL PLAYERS RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW A ONE NAME, YOU KNOW, BUT I COULD TELL YOU EVERYBODY WHO SERVES IN CONGRESS, IN THE SENATE THOUGH.

SO THAT'S MY THING.

I SAW THIS COME ACROSS THE NEWSFEED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN YOU WERE NAMED THE TOP 200 VENUES WORLDWIDE KING CENTER IN OUR VERY BACKYARD.

AND I JUST WANTED TO DO A SHOUT OUT FOR YOU, DO A RECOGNITION FOR YOU, AND PROVIDE YOU WITH

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THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FROM THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.

AND THANK YOU.

AND KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT.

COME ON.

WELL, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MR. VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS, FOR THIS RECOGNITION IN THIS HONOR.

UM, IT, IT'S, IT REALLY IS KIND OF REMARKABLE THAT A BUILDING AND THE MARKET THIS SIZE, YOU KNOW, IS IN THE, IS IN THE SAME CATEGORY WITH THE RYMAN AUDITORIUM IN NASHVILLE, RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, AND THE AUDITORIA DOWN IN MEXICO CITY.

AND THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR FRIENDS AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE, UM, THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM OUR CORPORATE OFFICE AT A SM GLOBAL.

BUT MOREOVER, IT'S THE 250 PEOPLE THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE THAT ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS, THAT ARE STEWARDS OF THAT BUILDING.

OUR FULL-TIME STAFF, OUR EVENT STAFF, AND THE 200 PLUS VOLUNTEERS THAT GIVE OVER 15 TO 20,000 HOURS A YEAR, UM, IN SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITY BY VOLUNTEERING FOR EVENTS AT THE KING CENTER.

SO WE LOVE THE KING CENTER, IT'S A GREAT FACILITY AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION.

VERY.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT, UH, MY WIFE AND I WERE, WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE FAR AND AWAY ON BROADWAY, FAR AND AWAY AT THE DR. PHILLIPS CENTER.

AND JUST RECENTLY FAR AND AWAY AT THE KING CENTER, HANDS DOWN, THE KING CENTER PERFORMERS TOPPED ALL THREE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

COME SEE US FOR PRETTY WOMAN ON TUESDAY.

OH, I DON'T LIKE PRETTY WOMEN.

MAYOR COUNCIL, WOULD YOU MIND? THANK YOU.

SO ADDITIONAL DUTIES FOR A VOLUNTEER TODAY, RIGHT? ? WE CAN'T PAY, BUT WE CAN .

UH, I DID TAKE IT OFF.

THANK YOU MUCH.

I GOT THE GOOD STUFF ON THE DOCTOR.

THANKS.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

OH, THAT WAS COOL.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

ARE WE ALL READY? PERFECT.

ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO NUMBER FIVE.

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION VICE MAYOR, SIR, MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUSO, A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND I VOTE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

I NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

JENNY, THE ONLY THING I NEED TO ADD IS I, I DID HAND OUT THE PCRC FLYER BECAUSE IN MY MANAGER'S REPORT I HAD THE LOCATION WRONG.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL LOCATION, BUT THE PCRC MEETING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE NEW POLICE STATION IN THE JOSEPH PELLICANO LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM THERE.

OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING FOR JENNY? SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PUBLIC COMMENT.

JUSTICE.

WE, WE DO.

ALRIGHT, WE GOT TWO.

WE HAVE BRENT WALLENBERG FOLLOWED BY NATHAN MULLOON.

I AM BRENT WALLENBERG FROM SMER.

OKAY.

AND THE TITLES, YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME SOME OF THE TIME, BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

RIGHT HERE IN BREVARD, WE USED TO HAVE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE ECOSYSTEM ON THE PLANET.

PRESIDENT NIXON SAID, DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT WE SAY.

WE ARE SAYING WHAT WE ARE DOING IN AN EFFORT TO BUY THOSE GOVERNOR SANTA SWOOP DOWN FROM TALLAHASSEE DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION AND GIVES 400 MILLION MORE TO BUILD STORM WATER STREAM IMPLANTS TO REMOVE ALL THE NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS FROM THE LAGOON.

NITROGEN AND PHOSPHOROUS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR LIFE.

THEY SAY THEY'RE TRYING TO SAVE THE LAGOON, BUT THEIR ACTIONS SAY THEY'RE TRYING TO KILL THE LAGOON.

RONALD REAGAN

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HAD A SAYING, THE SCARIEST WORDS ON EARTH ARE, WE ARE WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND WE HAVE COME TO HELP.

MY DAD HAD A SAYING, YOU MIX ALL THE PEOPLE TOGETHER AND TWO GROUPS WILL ALL ALWAYS RISE TO THE TOP.

THE CREAM AND THE CRAP WE, ALL WE HAVE BEEN GETTING IS THE CRAP THEY LEAVE NOTHING BUT A MESS THAT TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IMMEDIATELY AFTER BOUGHT VOTES.

BEFORE ELECTION, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TO LAUNDER THE 400 MILLION WAS HELD FOUR HOURS OF HOW PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR THE CITY DECIDING HOW SPOUSES AND FRIENDS WOULD RECEIVE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS AFTER FOUR HOURS.

THAT WOULD BORE A PERSON TO TEARS PUBLIC AT THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

THEY NEED TO LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK BEFORE THEY PUT EVERYBODY TO SLEEP.

AND, UH, ALL I'VE BEEN WRITING IS IN GRANT AND VOLGAR TOWN HALL.

AND PERSONALLY ALL I'VE FELT IS HUMILIATED AND JUST RUN OVER AS IF I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING.

.

I MEAN, MY IMPRESSION OF GOVERNMENT IS REALLY, IT'S NOT GOOD.

OR PERHAPS IT'S NOT JUST ALL GOVERNMENT.

IT'S, I'VE SEEN HOW PEOPLE THAT TRY ALSO GET RUN OVER.

UH, BUT THIS HAS TO STOP ALL, UH, IF YOU PUT THE SHELL BACK, THE CHEMISTRY 60 YEARS AGO, I REMEMBER FOAM ALL OVER THE SHORE.

NOW THE FOAM'S TURNING OUR SAND TO LIQUID ON THE BEACH.

IN MOST PEOPLE'S MINDS, YOU THINK A SAND IS A SOLID, BUT ASSURE YOU, YOU CAN TAKE THE CALCIUM CARBON AS SAND AND PUT IT ANYWHERE IN THE LAGOON AND PUT YOUR FOOT ON AND FEEL THE HEAT FROM THE CHEMICAL REACTION.

AND YOU OUGHT TO SEE WHAT I'M SEEING, MAN.

I'VE PUT SAND ON THE SHORE AND IT SEA GRASS GROWS BACK FROM THE SHORE TO AS FAR OUT AS YOU CAN SEE.

AND THE GREEN TURTLES ARE COMING BACK LIKE GANGBUSTERS.

AND AT ONE TIME, THE GREEN TUR SEA TURTLE WAS THOUGHT TO BE MOST PREVALENT LIFE FORM ON EARTH.

CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT WE CAN HAVE IN THIS LAGOON IF THEY, BUT SOME PEOPLE GOTTA BE REMOVED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THEY CAN'T JUST KEEP ON STEAMROLLING THE GOOD PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND NEXT UP IS NATHAN MULLOON.

AND JUST, UH, WHILE YOU'RE GOING, I WILL SAY WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST GOVERNMENTS IN THE CITY IN, I'M SORRY, IN THE COUNTY.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE AND WE ARE VERY, VERY LAGOON MINDED HERE.

AND ALL THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD STAND UP ON THAT.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS NATHAN MULLOON.

I'M AN ATTORNEY AT WIEDERMAN MALIK, 1990 WEST NEW HAVEN AVENUE, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

I REPRESENT ERIC HUGHES.

HE OWNS, UH, 1607 RIVERVIEW RIGHT OVER HERE BEHIND ME ON THE, ON THE LAGOON.

UM, AND WHAT HE'S LOOKING TO DO IS TO REQUEST, HE'S LOOKING TO VACATE SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY, AND I'VE ALSO HAD A, A PACKET, UM, PASSED OUT, WHICH IS TWO OR THREE PAGES OF A FEW SLIDES PER PAGE.

AND THERE'S A, CURRENTLY A PLATH THAT WAS PUT OUT IN THE LATE 1880S, UM, BACK WHEN PEOPLE VERY IMPRESSIVELY, UH, DREW THESE BY HANDS.

AND POTTER AVENUE IS BETWEEN MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY AND HIS NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH.

UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE SECOND PAGE IS THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S, ARIEL, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE BLUE BOX, UM, IN, IN, JUST IN THE SOUTH OF MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY, IS THIS RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF MELBOURNE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE VACATED.

AND, UH, SECTION 52 DASH 99 SUBSECTION THREE OF THE, OF THE MELBOURNE CITY CODE STATES IN ESSENCE THAT A RIGHT OF WAY THAT, UM, PROVIDES ACCESS TO PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE WATERS IN THE CITY, UH, CANNOT BE VACATED UNLESS THERE'S SIMILAR ACCESS THAT'S GRANTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.

HOWEVER, HERE FOR, FOR TWO REASONS, WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO IS TO, TO WAIVE THIS REQUIREMENT FOR MY CLIENT AND FOR THIS POTTER AVENUE.

UM, FIRST IS BECAUSE THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON HERE IS NOT ACTUALLY ACCESSIBLE.

UM, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL DROP OFF BETWEEN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND BETWEEN THE ACTUAL LAGOON, UM, WHICH MAKES IT, AGAIN, NOT ACTUALLY ACCESSIBLE.

FURTHER, IT'S ALSO A, A HAVEN FOR THE HOMELESS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE HOMELESS LEAVE TRASH IN THIS PROPERTY.

THEY LEAVE NEXT TO MY CLIENT'S HOME.

THERE'S BEEN ONE OVERDOSE AND TWO VEHICLE BREAK-INS AT MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY ALONE.

UM, MY CLIENT AND HIS NEIGHBOR HAVE MAINTAINED THE CITY RIGHT AWAY FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS.

UM, UM, ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WHAT I HAVE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS, UM, FROM RING CAMERAS THAT MY CLIENT HAS OF VARIOUS HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, UM, AT THE PROPERTY, EITHER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR DURING THE DAY, UM, ALONG WITH THE TRASH THAT THEY'VE LEFT AT THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, UN UNFORTUNATELY, THE, THE, THESE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WILL KNOCK ON MY CLIENT'S CHILDREN'S WINDOWS.

UM, URINATE ON THE PROPERTY, UNDRESS ON THE PROPERTY WHILE

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THE POLICE ARE EN ROUTE TO THE PROPERTY.

UM, THERE IS A, THERE'S A CITY PARK THAT'S ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH OF THIS THAT THE, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ACCESS TO OVERLOOKED PARK.

I PROVIDED A, UM, AN IMAGE OF THAT PARK AS WELL AS A, AN AERIAL IMAGE.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER EITHER FINDING THAT 52 99 SUBSECTION THREE IS NOT APPLICABLE HERE OR OTHERWISE WAIVING IT DUE TO THE, THE HOMELESS ISSUE AND THE SAFETY ISSUE FOR MY CLIENTS AND HIS NEIGHBOR.

UM, AND ALLOWING US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION FOR THE, UM, FOR REMOVING THE RIGHT OF WAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU MR. MULLOON.

UM, I THINK JENNY, DID YOU, UH, CAN WE JUST HAVE THIS, WE'LL HAVE STAFF LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND LET, LET YOU HAVEN'T BEEN RECOGNIZED.

UM, JENNY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, UH, I THINK YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE THE CITY ENGINEER COME UP ON THIS? YES.

UH, I CAN IF YOU NEED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

UM, BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT, AND AND HE HAD INCLUDED THIS IN HIS, UM, PRE PRESENTATION, THE SECTION OF CODE THAT, UM, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT NO RIGHT OF WAY OR PUBLIC EASEMENT GIVING ACCESS TO ANY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE WATERS IN THE CITY SHALL BE CLOSED, VACATED, OR ABANDONED.

SO HIS REQUEST TO WAIVE CODE IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

UM, IF, IF, IF YOU WOULD, IF COUNSEL WANTS STAFF TO LOOK INTO THIS AND SORT OF, I'M GONNA SAY IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE TO CODE AND I WILL JUST PREFACE IT WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO DO A HOLISTIC APPROACH OF HOW MANY OF THESE RIGHT OF WAYS, BUT THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL IMPACT AND NOT TREAT THIS AS A ONE-OFF.

AND SO THAT WOULD JUST BE MY SUGGESTION.

I DO HAVE THE CITY ENGINEER HERE, HE'D BE WILLING TO COME UP AND SPEAK.

UM, HE HAD SOME PHOTOGRAPHS, I THINK THEY WERE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS TOO, ABOUT SOME WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY.

SO DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU WANNA TAKE THIS CONVERSATION, WE CAN GO THERE OR WE CAN JUST REPORT BACK.

ALRIGHT, ADAM, UH, THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

AND I'LL JUST SAY, RIGHT, THE, THE REQUEST TO MAKE FINDINGS ASSOCIATED WITH A AND V OR OTHER THINGS, RIGHT? THE ABANDON AND VACATE PROCESS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCESS.

AND SO SOME OF MR. MULLOY'S REQUEST, I WOULD SAY IS ONLY APPROPRIATE ONCE A VARIANCE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND, AND PROCESSED.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT STAFF'S, UM, COMMUNICATION BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER PREVIOUSLY HAS NOTED THIS CODE LANGUAGE THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS VERY, LIKE, IS VERY STRONGLY GOING TO BE FOR, FOR DENIAL ON, ON AN APPLICATION.

UM, AND SO AGAIN, RIGHT, I I WILL CAUTION AGAINST COUNSEL SUBSTANTIVELY CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, MAKING FINDINGS SAYING THAT THE PARTICULAR CODE LANGUAGE DOESN'T APPLY, SO ON AND SO FORTH, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE THROUGH THE QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCESS AFTER THERE'S BEEN PUBLIC NOTICE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED TO, TO COUNSEL FOR, FOR THAT FORMAL CONSIDERATION.

SO IF THERE'S A, AGAIN, AS, AS JENNY SAID, IF THERE'S A REQUEST FOR STAFF REVIEW ON THIS CODE REQUIREMENT, GENERALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO WHAT I IMAGINE ARE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, UM, OLD PLATTED RIGHTS OF WAY CONNECTING TO, UM, TO THE RIVER HERE, BOTH IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE AND, AND THE O GLEE AREA.

THAT THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT, BUT TO SAY, YES, WE'RE JUST GONNA, WE'RE JUST GONNA WAIVE THIS CODE REQUIREMENT AND, AND MOVE FORWARD.

IT, IT, IT, I WILL RESPECTFULLY SAY IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

AND, AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT WHERE, WHERE MY HEAD'S AT AT FIRST.

I DO THINK THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION ON THE CITY CODE, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

UM, BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. MULLOON, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF WE WERE TO START TO TALK ABOUT THE CODE ITSELF AND THEN IT WOULD I THINK GO AND, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST OPEN UP WHAT YOU AND YOUR CLIENTS ARE LOOKING FOR? WELL, I THINK WE HAVE VERY, VERY MUCH SO, AND, AND THE REASON WE APPEARED HERE TONIGHT FOR, FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IS WE ATTEMPTED TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION AND WERE ADVISED THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO, UNLESS WE OFFERED DIFFERENT PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOME, WHICH WOULD PRESENT THE SAME ISSUES, WHICH IS WHY WE THEN APPEARED HERE TONIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER AN APPLICATION.

'CAUSE THEN WE WOULD CREATE THE RULES, UH, AND SEE IF IT'S STILL NEEDED OR WHETHER, HOW THIS APPLIES TO THAT.

AND WE COULD MAYBE COME UP WITH A, A MORE BROADER RANGE DISCUSSION.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY PROPERTY OR YOU'RE NOT THE OWNER, BUT YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH THIS KIND OF CONCERN, UM, AT LEAST THAT I'VE HEARD OF IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS.

BUT I'LL OPEN UP TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER LUSO, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UM, YEAH, GOOD EVENING.

UM, I RECEIVED THE, UH, VOICEMAILS, UH, MS TO TONER, I THINK BELIEVE HER NAME IS BELIEVE TOONE.

YOUR, YOUR VER OKAY.

PARDON ME.

AND, UH, ALSO THE EMAIL, AND I REPLIED APPROPRIATELY, THE CODE SAYS, OF COURSE, NO RIGHT OF WAY OR PUBLIC EASEMENT GIVING ACCESS TO ANY PUBLICLY ACCESSED ACCESSIBLE WATERS IN THE CITY SHALL BE CLOSED, VACATED, OR ABANDONED.

BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IN THE EXCEPTION OF HOMELESS.

SO I HAVE TO TAKE EXCEPTION TO THAT ONE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE HOMELESS SITUATIONS ALL OVER AND WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THEM.

IF YOU CAME TO PASS COUNCIL MEETINGS OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, YOU'D KNOW THAT.

UM, SO, UM, I DON'T, I'M I'M NOT A FAN OF CHANGING CODES.

UH, IT'S BEEN THERE, YOU SAID

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1880.

I DON'T KNOW.

I, I CAN DO THE RESEARCH WITH ADAM, UH, AND FIND OUT EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE AND WHAT AND HOW, AND HOW THIS CODE, THIS CODE CAME ABOUT.

BUT IT APPEARS TO ME IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

AND SO IF WE CHANGE THE CODE FOR YOU AND I GOTTA CHANGE THE CODE FOR HER AND HIM AND THEM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE MY HEAD IS AT.

BUT I'M, IF COUNCIL SAYS TO MOVE IT FORWARD, NO.

UM, I'LL, I'LL GO.

I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL ABIDE BY THEIR RULINGS, BUT, UM, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF, OF MOVING THIS FORWARD AT ALL.

I, I SEE IT AS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR CITY COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY.

THANK YOU, BRUCE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

OH, WE DID.

I SAW YOU BEFORE.

YES.

UH, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

HE'S, THEY'RE BRINGING UP THE, THE HOMELESSNESS AND I BROUGHT IT UP AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL.

UH, WHAT IS OUR PROCESS TO LOOK AT CLEARING OUT, OR MAYBE, UH, IF I DON'T, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY HOMELESSNESS WOULD BE SORT OF CONJUGATING IN THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR.

UH, AND I KNOW WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, SO I, I WOULD MAYBE EITHER ASK THAT OF US ON THE COUNCIL OR MAYBE EVEN CITY, UH, CITY MANAGER.

WHAT IS THAT PROCESS TO LOOK AT CLEARING OUT THE PROPERTY? WELL, WELL, IT IS CLOSER TO DAILY BREAD, SO I COULD SEE HOW THEY'RE CONGREGATING OVER THERE IN THAT WAY.

BUT, UH, JENNY, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? WE DO HAVE A PROCESS TO, UM, WHEN IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY, WE HAVE A PROCESS TO, UM, CLEAN UP THE AREAS OR POSSIBLY, UM, MAYBE TAKE SOME OF THE UNDERBRUSH OUT IF IT'S ALLOWABLE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT KIND OF TREES THOSE ARE.

SO OBVIOUSLY MANGROVES WE CAN'T TAKE OUT.

BUT, UM, WE, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN DO SOME TYPE OF, OF CLEANUP OF THE AREA.

SO IT, IT IS A LITTLE MORE OPEN.

UH, MS. KENNEDY, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED AS TO, UH, WHAT MS. LAMB SAID IS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THINGS ON THIS PROPERTY MM-HMM .

SO THAT, THAT'S AN ISSUE.

IF STAFF CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, OUR CITY ENGINEER ALREADY HAS THAT INFORMATION OR, OR WHAT, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH WHEN, WHEN WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S NO WATER ACCESS, THERE'S LIKE A DROP OFF THERE.

I, I KINDA WANT TO SEE IT FIRST, YOU KNOW, IN PERSON TO SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

CAN WE JUST MOVE? WELL, UM, MS. AMWAY, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT HERE.

WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE STATUE THE WAY IT IS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO CHANGE THE STATUES.

SO, UM, CAN WE JUST MOVE ON NOW? UM, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WE MIGHT AT LEAST NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION FOR THE STAFF.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S AN INTEREST FOR THEM TO LOOK ONTO THE PROPERTY AND SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED OUT ON THAT.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S STILL PART OF THIS.

UM, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE I'VE GOT ONE.

I'VE GOT MARCUS DO DO YOU GUYS, UH, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS, ELLIE, TO TAKE A LOOK ABOUT CLEARING OUT THE PROPERTY? ALRIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD.

THE ISSUE OF, UH, HOMELESS KNOCKING ON CHILDREN IS THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT SITS REALLY RIGHT, WRONG WITH ME ABOUT NEED.

THEY NEED HELP.

ALRIGHT, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT OUR COUNCIL DIRECTION ON COUNCILMAN LARUSSO.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO BE MISTAKEN OR ANYTHING.

I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS CODE CHANGE.

SURE.

OH, OH, CORRECT.

NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLEARING OUT THE PROPERTY, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S MAINTAINED.

THAT'S FINE.

AND SOMEWHERE THERE, LET'S GET THE LIST OF 10 OR 20 OTHER PLACES THAT WE CLEAR OUT AS WELL TOO.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UH, JENNY, DID YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED FROM US THERE? PERFECT.

THANK YOU MR. MULLIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

ALRIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE SHEILA MILLER, FOLLOWED BY EVAN LAFE.

I AM SHEILA MILLER.

I AM A CONCERNED CITIZEN, AND I THINK WE SHOULD START INTRODUCING MORE PLANT-BASED OPTIONS IN SCHOOLS AND CAFETERIAS AND RESTAURANTS.

WHEN WE DO THAT, WE REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINTS, UM, MOVING.

WE NEED TO REMOVE MEAT AND DAIRY REALLY, BECAUSE IT'S THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEFORESTATION.

UM, CLIMATE CHANGE, WATER POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION, GLOBAL WARMING.

UM, IT'S ALSO REALLY BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH.

UM, THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN PEOPLE IS, UM, HEART DISEASE AND ANIMAL PRODUCTS ARE LINKED TO HEART DISEASE.

SO WE LIKE REALLY NEED TO GET RID OF IT ALTOGETHER AND MAKE HEALTHIER OPTIONS.

UM, ANIMAL AGRICULTURE IS, UH, HAS A HUGE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT.

IT JUST USES SO MUCH WATER, LIKE 2000 GALLONS OF WATER TO MAKE ONE POUND OF GROUND BEEF IS RIDICULOUS.

UM, ALSO, LIKE WE CUT DOWN SO MANY TREES TO MAKE ROOM FOR LIVESTOCK, AND THEN WE CUT DOWN MORE TREES TO MAKE FEED FOR THEM.

SO IT'S THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEFORESTATION AND WE JUST NEED TO

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THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS THAT ARE GONNA GROW UP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MUCH OF A FUTURE.

AND IT'S ALSO LIKE ANIMALS ARE GOING EXTINCT BECAUSE OF IT, BECAUSE OF THE MEAT AND DAIRY INDUSTRY, AND IT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR ANY OF US, ESPECIALLY EXTREMELY CRUEL FOR ALL THE ANIMALS, LIKE WHAT THEY ENDURE AND THEY DON'T NEED TO ENDURE THIS BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE, WE HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

WE CAN LIKE THRIVE ON A PLANT-BASED DIET AND EATING MEAT AND DAIRY.

IT'S JUST HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON YOUR HEALTH AS WELL.

UM, CHRONIC ILLNESSES, UM, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE FROM EATING MEAT AND DAIRY THAT CAN, LIKE, WE CAN REVERSE TYPE TWO DIABETES JUST BY GETTING RID OF MEAT AND DAIRY AND HAVING HEALTHIER OPTIONS WITH JUST PLANTS.

AND, OH, AND I THINK I SAID LIKE BAD FOR THE ENVI, MEAN AND DAIRY IS BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH AND BAD FOR THE ANIMALS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS EVAN LAFE, FOLLOWED BY MELANIE WATTS, VICE MAYOR.

SO I WOULD LIKE, JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY OF COMING UP HERE THIS EVENING.

I, I APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW IT TOOK A LOT FOR YOU AND I AND YOUR, IF IT WAS NOT YOUR EMAIL AND IT WAS ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES TO SEND IT TO US TO, UH, CHIME IN ON THE ENDORSEMENT, IT'S STILL IN MY INBOX.

I'M STILL RESEARCHING IT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

IT MEANS A LOT AND I, AND ALL OF THOSE POINTS ARE VERY VALID.

OKAY, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS EVAN LAFE AND I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THE CITY OF MELBOURNE TO SUPPORT THE PLANT-BASED TREATY.

THIS INITIATIVE FOCUSES ON THREE KEY THINGS SHIFTING TOWARDS HEALTHIER FOOD SYSTEMS, MAKING PLANT-BASED FOOD MORE ACCESSIBLE, AND PROMOTING SUSTAINABILITY.

RESEARCH SHOWS THAT A SHIFT TO PLANT-BASED DIETS COULD PREVENT MILLIONS OF CASES OF HEART DISEASE, TYPE TWO DIABETES AND OBESITY CONDITIONS THAT PUT A MAJOR STRAIN ON FAMILIES AND OUR LOCAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

AT THE SAME TIME, PLANT-BASED MEALS ARE OFTEN MORE AFFORDABLE, RESOURCE EFFICIENT, MAKING THEM A SMART SOLUTION FOR FOOD SECURITY, ESPECIALLY DURING ECONOMIC INSTABILITY OR SUPPLY CHAIN DISRUPTIONS.

BY SUPPORTING THE PLANT-BASED TREATY, MELBOURNE HAS THE CHANCE TO LEAD IN BUILDING A HEALTHIER, MORE RESILIENT AND MORE COMPASSIONATE COMMUNITY.

IT'S A STEP WE CAN TAKE TODAY TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE, OUR PLANET, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS MELANIE WATTS, FOLLOWED BY DEBBIE ROBERTS.

HELLO, IT'S MELENA WATTS.

OH, I'M SORRY.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MELENA WATTS AND I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN AND CAMPAIGNER FOR PLANT-BASED TREATY DEDICATED TO PROMOTING SUSTAINABLE AND COMPASSIONATE SOLUTIONS TO ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES.

FIRST, THANK YOU.

MELBOURNE HAS ALREADY DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP THROUGH YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS SUCH AS GOAL OF ACHIEVING A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAN ENERGY BY 2035 AND YOUR WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. THESE ACTIONS ARE COMMENDABLE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENT TODAY.

I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP BY ENDORSING THE PLANT-BASED TREATY, A GLOBAL INITIATIVE DESIGNED TO ADDRESS ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION THROUGH A SHIFT IN FOOD SYSTEMS. THE TREATY FOCUSES ON THREE PILLARS, RELINQUISH, WHICH IS THE HALT TO THE EXPANSION OF ANIMAL AGRICULTURE.

REDIRECT SHIFT SOURCES RESOURCES TO PLANT-BASED SOLUTIONS AND RESTORE, REBUILD ECOSYSTEMS THAT SEQUESTER CARBON.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? ANIMAL AGRICULTURE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 14.5% OF GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, MORE THAN ALL TRANSPORTATION COMBINED.

IT ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO DEFORESTATION, WATER POLLUTION AND BIODIVERSITY LOSS PRODUCTION.

UH, PRODUCING ONE POUND OF BEEF REQUIRES 1800 GALLONS OF WATER, A VITAL RESOURCE UNDER STRAIN BEYOND THE ENVIRONMENT.

ANIMAL AGRICULTURE POSES SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC HEALTH, HEALTH RISKS CONTRIBUTING TO DISEASES LIKE HEART DISEASE, OBESITY, AND ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANCE.

IT ALSO INCREASES THE RISK OF ZOONOTIC DISEASES LIKE BIRD FLU, WHICH IS ON THE RISE AND CAN SPREAD FROM ANIMALS TO HUMANS.

SHIFTING TOWARDS PLANT-BASED SYSTEMS CAN HELP CONSERVE RESOURCES, REDUCE DISEASE RISKS, AND IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH.

CITIES AROUND THE WORLD ARE ALREADY ENDORSING THE TREATY, INCLUDING BOYNTON BEACH, WHICH WAS THE FIRST CITY IN FLORIDA TO ENDORSE LOS ANGELES AND WEST HOLLYWOOD, WHICH I HELPED WITH WHO HAVE INCORPORATED IT INTO THEIR SUSTAINABILITY PLANS.

AMSTER, AMSTERDAM AND EDINBURGH WERE ALSO, UM, ENDORSED THE PLANT-BASED TREATY AND ADDED IT TO THEIR CITY.

UM, POLICIES OVER 40 CITIES GLOBALLY HAVE ENDORSED THE PLANT-BASED TREATY LEADING TO REAL ACTION.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT PLANT-BASED TREATY.ORG TO EXPLORE OUR AUTHORITY FOR EXPANDED PROPOSALS, DETAILING ACTIONS OTHER CITIES HAVE TAKEN TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY, CONSERVE RESOURCES, AND IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH.

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ENDORSING THE TREATY WOULD SEND A STRONG MESSAGE THAT MELBOURNE IS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT, CONSERVING WATER, REDUCING DISEASE RISK, AND IMPROVING PUBLIC HEALTH.

I INVITE YOU TO MEET WITH OUR TEAM AT YOUR CONVENIENCE FOR A TAILORED PRESENTATION WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS HOW THE, HOW THE TREATY CAN ALIGN WITH MELBOURNE'S EXISTING GOALS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME LEADERSHIP AND FOR CONSIDERING THIS IMPORTANT STEP TOWARDS A HEALTHIER, MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

AND I WANNA SAY I TRAVEL THE COUNTRY QUITE OFTEN AND MELBOURNE IS ONE OF THE MOST CLEANEST CITIES I'VE EVER BEEN TO.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THAT'S AMAZING.

I'M VERY HAPPY HERE.

I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT CITY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

I HAVE SOME RESOURCES AS WELL.

ALSO 36 YEARS IN THE, UH, TREE CITY OF, OF USA.

VERY COOL.

YEAH.

YES.

OUR, OUR ENDORSED, UH, ENDORSED PLANT-BASED TREE TO EAT PLANTS, PLANT TREES.

SO COOL.

WE'RE ALL ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE SOME RESOURCE.

DO HAVE A TSHIRT FOR ALL OF US.

I CAN GET YOU A T-SHIRT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO, ACTUALLY, I'M JOKING, BUT I DO HAVE SOME, UM, INFORMATION FOR ALL OF YOU.

CAN I LEAVE IT OVER HERE? YOU CAN LEAVE IT WITH THE CITY CLERK RIGHT UP FRONT.

RIGHT UP HERE.

YEP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEXT IS DEBBIE ROBERTS, FOLLOWED BY SHANNON BLAIR.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

, MY NAME IS DEBBIE ROBERTS.

I'M HERE TODAY AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THE HEALTH OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR COMMUNITIES, AND OUR, THE FUTURE WE'RE CREATING TOGETHER.

I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY OF MELBOURNE TO TAKE A MEANINGFUL FORWARD THINKING STEP BY ENDORSING A PLANT-BASED TREATY.

THIS GLOBAL INITIATIVE COMPLIMENTS THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT AND FOCUSES ON CRITICAL, YET OFTEN OVERLOOKED PART OF THE CLIMATE CRISIS.

OUR FOOD SYSTEM ANIMAL AQUACULTURE IS ONE OF THE LEADING DRIVERS OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, DEFORESTATION, WATER POLLUTION AND BIODIVERSITY LAWS.

BUT WE HAVE THE POWER SOLUTIONS AT OUR FINGERTIPS.

SUPPORTING SHIP TOWARD MORE PLANT-BASED FOOD SYSTEMS IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE TO REDUCE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND BUILD A HEALTHIER FUTURE.

ENDORSING THE PLANT-BASED TREATY WOULDN'T IMPOSE DIETARY CHOICES ON INDIVIDUALS.

IT'S ABOUT SETTING A TONE OF LEADERSHIP, SUPPORTING PLANT FORWARD EDUCATION, SUSTAINABLE FOOD POLICIES, AND RESPONSIBLE FORWARD THINKING DECISION MAKING IN THE PUBLIC SPACES.

THIS ENDORSEMENT WOULD SIGNAL THAT MELBOURNE IS READY TO LEAD WITH COMPASSION, COURAGE, AND COMMITMENT TO REAL, MEANINGFUL SOLUTIONS.

IT WOULD SHOW THAT THIS CITY IS DEDICATED TO PROTECTING THE PLANET, ITS PEOPLE, BOTH NOW AND FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.

I TRULY HOPE YOU'LL CHOOSE TO STAND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY BY ENDORSING THIS PLANT TREATY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS SHANNON BLAIR.

GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, VICE MAYOR.

IS THE MAYOR NOT HERE TONIGHT? NO, HE'S NOT HERE TODAY.

OKAY.

JUST CHECKING.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS SHANNON.

I'M A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY AND I ALSO HAVE FAMILY IN MELBOURNE.

MY PARENTS ARE HERE.

I AM STANDING ON MY TOES RIGHT NOW.

SORRY.

TELLS ME NOT TO MOVE IT.

YOU CAN, IT MOVES.

IT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

THE SCREEN TELLS ME DON'T.

OKAY.

YOU'RE GOOD.

ALL THANK YOU.

I'M A CERTIFIED VEGAN LIFESTYLE COACH AND EDUCATOR, AND I'M ALSO THE PLANT-BASED COMMUNITY COORDINATOR FOR SOLID ROCK COMMUNITY SCHOOL.

ONE OF THE ONLY PLANT-BASED SCHOOLS IN THE UNITED STATES, WHICH IS IN OUR STATE, WHICH IS EXCITING AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE ENDORSE THE PLANT-BASED TREATY.

AND YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT ALREADY, SO I WON'T GO ON TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT IT IS.

BUT WE DID HEAR EARLIER IN THE MEETING ABOUT SOME POWERFUL STORIES ABOUT THE IMPACT OF YOUR SUPPORT WITH PARKINSON'S RELATED HEALTH PROGRAMS, REAL STORIES OF HEALING AND HOPE THAT WAS REALLY AWESOME.

AND SO THE SAME SPIRIT OF COMPASSION AND PREVENTION IS AT THE HEART OF WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TONIGHT.

AND SO, A PERSONAL STORY.

MY GRANDMA HAD TWO TYPES OF CANCER.

SHE HAD BOTH BREAST AND COLON CANCERS AND MAKES ME REALLY SAD.

UM, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF I HAD THE INFORMATION BACK THEN THAT I HAVE TODAY, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THOSE.

I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN'T GET COLON CANCER IF YOU DON'T EAT ANIMALS.

AND FROM MY RESEARCH, I ALSO BELIEVE FROM SEEING A LOT OF PEER REVIEWED STUDIES, THAT THE CHANCES OF GETTING BREAST CANCER ARE ALSO INCREDIBLY REDUCED WHEN YOU AVOID DAIRY PRODUCTS.

AND SO, UM, AND FOR MEN THAT GOES AS WELL.

AND PROSTATE CANCER FOR MEN TOO.

BUT I THINK IT'S UNFAIR THAT WE'VE BEEN DEPRIVED OF THIS INFORMATION.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY AMAZING IF HERE WE COULD LEAD THE WAY BY

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DOING SIMILAR THINGS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN CALIFORNIA BY HAVING ALL CITY MEALS BE PLANT-BASED BY DEFAULT.

BECAUSE EVEN IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO DIFFERENTLY AT HOME, WE COULD AT LEAST ASK THAT WHILE THEY'RE AT COMMUNITY EVENTS, THAT THEY DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PLANET, BEST FOR THEIR OWN HEALTH, BEST FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY, AND BEST FOR THE ANIMALS THAT WE SHARE THIS PLANET WITH.

SO I'M A MOTHER OF THREE, UM, EVAN WHO SPOKE, AND THEN MY TWO OTHERS.

ONE OF THEM IS QUITE RAMBUNCTIOUS, SORRY, SHE'S ALMOST THREE.

AND, UM, I REALLY CARE ABOUT THE PLANET AS WELL.

AND, UH, SOME OF MY FRIENDS MENTIONED EARLIER THE DEVASTATION.

I HAVEN'T EATEN AN ANIMAL IN OVER 28 YEARS AND I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH IN THAT TIME AND WE'VE DONE MORE DAMAGE TO THE PLANET IN THE LAST 50 YEARS ON ANIMAL AG ALONE THAN WE'VE DONE THROUGH ALL HUMAN EXISTENCE.

EVERYTHING ELSE COMBINED.

SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL THE COMMON CARDS THAT I HAVE.

DID WE MISS ANYBODY? SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT.

ADAM, THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 16, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY CHANGING THE EXISTING ZONING FROM REU RURAL ESTATE USE TO A EU AGRICULTURAL ESTATE USE ON AN OVERALL 3.62 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FAIRPOINT LANE NORTH OF PARKWAY DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 775 FEET WEST OF TURTLE MOUND ROAD 40 25 FAIRPOINT LANE, PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

NOW, MS. DITMER? UH, YES, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UM, BEFORE YOU, YOU DO HAVE CORRESPONDENCE THIS EVENING FROM THE APPLICANT REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM BE POSTPONED UNTIL, UM, A JULY CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND SO VICE MAYOR.

ALRIGHT.

UM, SO NOW BEFORE THIS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, QUASI-JUDICIAL, SO WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT THIS CONTINUANCE.

AND MS. KENNEDY, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN KIND OF SPEARHEADING THIS, SO WOULD YOU MIND GIVING US, UH, SOME THOUGHTS IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE THIS OR NOT? SO DO I HAVE TO DO THE QUASI? NO, AS LONG AS YOU JUST TALK ABOUT YOUR CONTINUANCE.

OKAY.

IF WE'RE GONNA START TO COMMENT ON THE WHOLE THING, THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE REMAR.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I JUST WANNA, THE CONTINUANCE IS THERE IN ORDER TO MAYBE COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT IDEA.

I HAD A MEETING, UM, TWO WEEKS AGO ON APRIL 1ST, UM, WITH QUITE A FEW RESIDENTS ON BOTH SIDES.

AND MY GOAL OF THAT MEETING WAS TO COME UP WITH A HAPPY MEDIUM FOR PEOPLE TO MEET HALFWAY, RIGHT? SO WE HAD A WIN-WIN.

UM, AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR HELPING OUT AS WELL.

UM, JENNY AND CINDY WERE BOTH THERE AND I HAD SPOKEN TO ADAM THE OTHER DAY ABOUT IT.

UM, WE CAN GO WITH AN OPTION THAT IS A WIN-WIN, AND I HAVE A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE RESIDENTS ON BOTH SIDES THAT ARE FOR THIS OPTION, READY FOR IT.

OKAY.

SO WE KEEP THE REU, RIGHT? SO THE ANIMAL THING IS NOT IN THE PICTURE, RIGHT? SO WE KEEP THE REU, HOWEVER WE CHANGE, UM, TO WHAT THE REU STANDARDS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLINGS TO ALLOW THE MOBILE HOME ON THE PROPERTY.

DID I SAY THAT RIGHT ADAM? I THINK SO.

RIGHT.

SO, SO AS I UNDERSTAND MS. KENNEDY'S REQUEST, AND, AND THE OTHER OPTION, IT'S, IT'S EVEN ONE THAT I HAD RAISED, UM, AT OUR, AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING IN MARCH WAS RATHER THAT, RIGHT? WHAT COUNCIL DID IN JANUARY WAS TO AMEND CITY CODE TO ALLOW MOBILE HOMES AS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING ONLY IN THE A EU ZONING DISTRICT.

AND I THINK PART OF THE REASON THAT STAFF PROPOSED THAT AND COUNCIL, UH, ADOPTED IT WAS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT, THE, THE MINIMUM 2.5 ACRE, LOTS OF A U WHERE A MOBILE HOME AS A, AS AN, UH, ACCESSORY DWELLING MAY NOT, UH, IMPACT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AS MUCH AS IT WOULD IN DENSER, DENSER AREAS.

AND SO, AS, AS I UNDERSTAND MS. KENNEDY'S REQUEST, IT'S A, TO AGAIN, POSTPONE, UM, THIS REZONING ORDINANCE AND, AND FOR COUNSEL TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO DRAFT, PREPARE A, AN ORDINANCE AND BRING IT THROUGH THE PROCESS THROUGH PLANNING ZONING BOARD AND BACK TO COUNCIL FOR NOW A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE REU ZONING STANDARDS TO ALLOW A MOBILE HOME, UM, AS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING.

THE, THE ONLY THING I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THAT IS TO LIMIT IT TO REU, UM, ZONED PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT LEAST TWO AND A HALF ACRES IN SIZE.

UM, AND SO AGAIN, RIGHT I THAT IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AT THIS POINT WHETHER TO, UM, AGAIN, POSTPONE THIS ITEM AND, AND GIVE STAFF THAT DIRECTION OR, UM, IF

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YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THEN, UM, VICE MAYOR, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GO INTO THE, THE QUASI-JUDICIAL SECTION, BUT, UM, WE'LL TAKE, WE'LL TAKE COUNCIL DIRECTION AT, AT THIS POINT.

ALRIGHT.

SO STRICTLY ON THIS CONTINUANCE AND GIVING ADAM THE LEEWAY THAT HE NEEDS, DO WE HAVE A, UH, CONSENSUS HERE FOR US TO DO THAT? YEAH, I SEEN 1, 2, 3, 4, OH, I'M SORRY.

AND, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA DO A CONTINUANCE, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A CONTINUANCE TO THE JULY 8TH, 2025 COUNCIL MEETING, UH, HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT, AT SIX 30.

DO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT? UH, UH, YEAH.

IF WE'RE GONNA DO A POSTPONEMENT, UM, I, I RECOMMEND IT BEING WITH THAT DATE, DATE TIME, CERTAIN.

WHAT'S THE DATE? OKAY.

I, IT'S, UH, JULY 8TH, 2025 AT 6:30 PM HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS VICE MAYOR.

SO I MAKE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS AGENDA ITEM TO JULY 8TH AT SIX 30.

ALRIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. KENNEDY.

I HAVE A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND I VOTE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

AND SO THEN SEPARATELY IT, UM, IF THERE'S AT LEAST CONSENSUS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE CITY STAFF TO WORK ON THE, UM, PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE REU ZONING STANDARDS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLINGS TO ALLOW A MOBILE HOME IN A REU ZONE PROPERTY AT LEAST TWO AND A HALF ACRES IS, IS THERE AT LEAST CONSENSUS? CAN I, CAN I GET EYEBALLS FROM EVERYBODY OF A YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE'S, EVERYONE'S SAYING YES.

SO WE, UM, WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT AND, UH, BRING THAT BACK FOR, UH, FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.

PERFECT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

I WANNA JUST, UM, VICE MAYOR, UM, THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS AS WELL AND HELPING ME COME TO A WIN-WIN.

PERFECT.

SOUNDS GREAT.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ITEM NUMBER NINE, ADAM.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 17, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A THREE AND A HALF FOOT WIDE BY 40 FOOT LONG PORTION OF THE 10 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG THE REAR LOT, LINE OF LOT LINE 19, BLOCK FOUR OF THE SANCTUARY SUBDIVISION 7 1 4 HUMMINGBIRD DRIVE, MAKING FINDINGS, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

ALRIGHT, AND WE HAVE MR. RENI TO SPEAK ON THIS.

UH, GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

UM, THIS IS, UH, THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE.

I DO NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER ITEMS, UH, TO ADD TO THIS.

AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY FURTHER CONTACT FROM ANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE ADJACENT AREAS REGARDING THIS VACATION.

ALL RIGHT, PERFECT.

UM, AND WE PULLED THE ACTUAL, UM, EXHIBIT UP FOR THE OVERHEAD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT'S BEING ABANDONED AND VACATED.

IT'S THE SMALL, UH, YELLOW HASHED PORTION OF THE, UH, BLUE, UH, UTILITY EASEMENT ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY.

SO, PERFECT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SIGNUP SHEETS? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS QUA, THIS IS QUASI-JUDICIAL.

WELL YOU GOTTA DO THAT ONE FIRST.

UH, QUASI-JUDICIAL.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES? SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MAYOR, VICE MAYOR SIR.

MR. MAYOR, MR. VICE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 17.

SECOND, SECOND.

OH BOY.

WE GOT A BUNCH.

.

WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE MR. SMITH A, BUT AT THE APPLE, HE HASN'T GOTTEN ONE YET.

SO, ALL MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LARUSSO.

THE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

UH, VICE MAYOR, IT'S, UH, A ROLL CALL VOTE ON SECOND ROLL CALL VOTE.

ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY.

AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AYE.

COUNCILMAN LARUSSO? AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT.

AYE.

VICE MAYOR NEWMAN.

AYE.

ALL PERFECT.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE AT ITEM NUMBER 10.

ADAM.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 18.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY CHANGING THE EXISTING ZONING FROM CP COMMERCIAL PARKWAY TO C ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON A 1.15 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF NASA BOULEVARD, EAST OF BABCOCK STREET, AND WEST OF APOLLO BOULEVARD, 55 EAST NASA BOULEVARD, PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

AND SPEAKING ON THIS, WE HAVE MS. DIPMAR.

HEY THERE.

GOOD EVENING.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON SECOND READING FOR THIS ITEM.

ALRIGHT, PERFECT.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SIGNUP SHEETS? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE GOING TO DO DISCLOSURES.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES TODAY? SEEING NONE.

OKAY, COUNSEL, WHAT ARE WE THINKING? MAYOR, UH, VICE MAYOR MS. BASSETT, UM, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 18 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

I THOUGHT I HEARD A SECOND FROM MS. KENNEDY.

YEAH, SHE .

SHE BEAT YA.

YEAH, SHE GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT.

BAD WE ALRIGHT.

WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BASSETT, A SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY.

ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER

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HANLEY AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY.

AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER RU RUSSO.

AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT.

AYE.

VICE MAYOR.

NEW MAYOR.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

THAT MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE ON NUMBER 11.

ADAM.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 19 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR REVISIONS TO THE SUBDIVISION CODE MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING APPENDIX D OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDING CHAPTER EIGHT, SUBDIVISION CODE AMENDING CHAPTER NINE, DESIGN STANDARDS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS AMENDING ARTICLE 15, PRESERVATION AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE MS. DIMMER PRESENTING.

ARE YOU THERE? UH, YES.

SO THIS IS SECOND READING.

UM, DURING FIRST READING WE DID, UM, THOROUGHLY GO OVER THE PROPOSED, UM, CHANGES TO THE, UM, LANDSCAPE CODE, THE TREE PRESERVATION SECTIONS.

UM, I DID TALK LAST TIME ABOUT THE, UM, TREE PERMIT, UM, REMOVAL FEES.

AND TONIGHT YOU ALSO HAVE THE RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA TO ADOPT THOSE, UM, AMENDED FEES.

I WANTED TO JUST SAY, UM, VERY BRIEFLY, JUST REMIND COUNSEL, IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE WE'VE REVIEWED AND INCREASED THESE FEES.

UM, WE REVIEWED A NUMBER OF CITIES TO LOOK AT THEIR CURRENT FEES AND, UM, OUR CURRENT CAP OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REMOVE ALL THE TREES YOU WANT, UM, IS REALLY DOING THE OPPOSITE, I THINK, OF, UM, WHAT THE CITY, UM, IS WANTING TO DO, WHICH IS TRYING TO PRESERVE TREES.

AND SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE PROPOSED, UM, NEW FEES, UM, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, BE REVIEWING THIS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTIES.

THE SITES WE'RE HOPING THAT, UM, THAT ENCOURAGES SOME TREE PRESERVATION.

UM, SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT WE PROVIDED FOR THE SITE DESIGN WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, TO RETAIN SOME OF THESE TREES.

SO, UM, LOOKING AT THAT, UM, IS A POSITIVE THING.

UM, COUNCIL DID ASK ABOUT AT THE FIRST TREATING, YOU KNOW, JUST AN IDEA, UM, YOU KNOW, OF THE, WHAT THESE, THE IMPACT OF THESE FEES ARE.

AND I'LL JUST SAY IT'S VERY DIFF DIFFICULT TO JUST SAY, OH, THE AVERAGE IS THIS.

'CAUSE IT'S GONNA VARY, UM, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, BASED ON HOW HEAVILY VEGETATED THE SITE IS.

UM, I PUT TWO EXAMPLES IN, IN THE ITEM SUMMARY.

ONE WAS A 2.6 ACRE SITE WITH 39 TREES.

UM, THEIR FEE CAME OUT TO BE, YOU KNOW, $15,750, UM, FOR THE, THAT TREE REMOVAL.

UM, A 3.19 ACRE SITE, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT A LOT LESS TREES.

THERE'S WAS $6,750.

SO IT'S GONNA REALLY VARY.

I DO WANNA JUST LET COUNCIL KNOW IF WE GET TO SOME SITES THAT ARE VERY LARGE, YOU KNOW, WE START TALKING 30, 40 ACRE SITES AND THAT ARE HEAVILY VEGETATED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TREE REMOVAL FEE IS GONNA BE HIGHER AND I JUST WANNA, I WOULDN'T WANT COUNCIL TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT IS, UM, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

BUT ALL THE NUMBERS I JUST CITED AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE LARGER SITES, THAT'S ASSUMING THERE'S NO TREE PRESERVATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE CALCULATED THOSE FEES BASED ON THEY'RE WIPING EVERYTHING OUT.

SO TAKE THAT IN MIND.

I THINK WHEN WE START EARLY WITH, UM, THE ENGINEERS IN SITE DESIGN, I THINK THAT WE CAN HELP TO ENCOURAGE AND PRESERVATION OF, UM, ONSITE TREES, WHICH WILL COUNT TOWARDS THEIR REQUIRED TREES.

SO IT'LL BE A WIN-WIN.

UM, SO, UM, WITH THAT STAFF, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 19 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM ADDITIONALLY, APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4 3 3 9.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SIGNUP SHEETS? SEEING NONE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL, VICE MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 19 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

MEMORANDUM SECOND.

ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BALL, UH, BASSETT.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY.

AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT.

AYE.

VICE MAYOR NEWMAN AND I VOTE.

AYE.

ON THE MOTION PASSES MS. HANLEY, VICE MAYOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 43 39.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY.

AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT.

AYE.

VICE MAYOR NEUMANN.

I VOTE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

VICE MAYOR, JUST FOR A SECOND.

CINDY, I WANT TO, I WANT TO TELL YOU I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR TAKING, YOU KNOW, THE REAL LEAD ON THIS.

IT, IT IS REALLY COOL HAVING BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.

THIS IS GREAT WORK.

REALLY GREAT WORK.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT.

YEP.

AND THANK YOU CINDY.

UM, ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER 12, MR. ENNIS.

UH, THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

THIS IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER 12.

THIS IS TASK ORDER NUMBER ESI 1, 1 1 TO STORMWATER CONVEYANCE INVENTORY AND EVALUATION CONTRACT FOR

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GIS DATABASE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS IS THE THIRD TASK ORDER WITH RES FLORIDA CONSULTING, UH, FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE GIS DATABASE DEVELOPMENT OF THE STORMWATER CONVEYANCE INVENTORY.

UH, PARENT CONTRACT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF 2021.

PREVIOUS TASK ORDERS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR PORTIONS OF THIS PROJECT.

UH, THE, WHAT THIS WORK IS ACTUALLY DOING IS WE ARE CONTINUING THE BUILD OUT OF OUR GIS DATABASE OF OUR STORMWATER INVENTORY.

UM, THAT'S A REALLY COMPLICATED AND COMPLEX WAY OF SAYING, WE'RE BASICALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE ALL OF OUR STORMWATER INVENTORY IS.

THAT MEANS THE DRAINS, THE PIPES, ALL THE THINGS THAT LEAD TO IT, ALL THE PONDS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO IT, AND THAT WE HAVE AN APPROPRIATE LISTING OF ALL THOSE, UH, FACILITIES.

UH, THIS FALLS UNDER, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR MS FOUR PERMIT.

UH, WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THIS INVENTORY.

UH, WE HAVE TO INSPECT, UH, THE INVENTORY OF PIPES, UH, EVERY FIVE YEARS.

UH, WE HAVE TO INSPECT STRUCTURE, UH, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE STRUCTURES, UH, ON A DIFFERENT FREQUENCY.

UH, BUT HAVING THIS DATABASE IN A READILY ACCESSIBLE FORMAT, UH, THAT WE CAN UPDATE AND PUT DATA ATTRIBUTION TO IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE MS FOUR PERMIT AND IS ALSO PART OF OUR, UH, BETTER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, UH, FOR ENSURING THAT OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM IS MAINTAINED IN AN ACCEPTABLE MANNER.

UM, THE PREVIOUS TASK ORDERS WERE FOR 108,948 AND $325,064.

THEY WERE ISSUED TO PERFORM GIS DATABASE, WORK TRAINING, FIELD COLLECTION, IDENTIFICATION AND CONDITION ASSESSMENT, AND HISTORICAL PERMIT RESEARCH FOR THE EXISTING STORMWATER SYSTEM IN DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH THREE.

UH, THE REASON ONE THROUGH THREE WERE CHOSEN WAS THAT IT'S THE, UH, HEAVIEST AREA FOR OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM, UH, THAT HAD SOME OF THE OLDER, UH, OLDEST INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAD AND, UH, HAD THE MOST UNKNOWNS OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAD.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY GETTING US, UM, A LONG WAY TO OUR GOAL OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT OUR SYSTEM FULLY DOCUMENTED.

UM, THIS TASK ORDER ADDS IN THE FINAL 11 OF 19 CATEGORIES UNDER THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK.

UH, THIS IS, UM, BASICALLY FINISHING OUT, UH, THE DIFFERENT ATTRIBUTES THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, IDENTIFY AS PART OF OUR PLAN.

THIS WILL BE INCLUDING, UH, THIS INCLUDES ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY LOCATING, UH, THESE DEVICES OR FEATURES, UM, UH, DOING A PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT OF THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER AND PROVIDING THAT DOCUMENTATION AND LOADING IT INTO THE GIS SYSTEM.

UM, AND, UH, IDENTIFYING ALL THE OTHER DIFFERENT FEATURES THAT ARE PART OF STORMWATER MAINTENANCE, UH, SUCH AS OUR STREET SWEEPING ROUTES.

UH, ANY TYPE OF HARDENING THAT WE'VE DONE ON OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.

UH, TREATMENT BASINS, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE LARGE AREAS OF, OF LAND THAT WE'RE, UH, SERVICING WITH OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.

UH, MOWING AREAS UNDER GRAIN SYSTEMS, DIFFERENT CLEAN OUTS AND, UH, POTENTIAL ILLICIT DISCHARGES THAT WOULD GO INTO OUR SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TO MONITOR, ENSURE THAT, UH, NO ILLICIT DISCHARGES ARE OCCURRING.

SO AS PART OF THIS, UM, WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER ESI 1 1 1 FOR STORMWATER CONVEYANCE INVENTORY AND EVALUATION FOR GIS DATABASE, TECHNICAL SUPPORT, CUSTOMIZATION AND REPORT DEVELOPMENT.

PROJECT NUMBER 2 5 0 1 9 WITH RES FLORIDA CONSULTING LIMITED LIABILITY CORP.

UH, THAT DOES BUSINESS AS E SCIENCES IN OF ORLANDO, FLORIDA IN THE AMOUNT OF $342,988.

FUNDING IS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE PROJECT BUDGET.

WE ORIGINALLY HAD 1.5 MILLION, UH, BUDGETED FOR ALL OF THIS WORK.

UH, WE ARE STILL UNDER THAT THRESHOLD, UH, BUT WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE FOR, UH, STORM WATER INVENTORY FOR THE REMAINING CITY DISTRICTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE FULL SYSTEM, UM, APPROPRIATELY DIGITIZED AND TRACKED.

GREAT.

THANK YOU MR. ENIS.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ENIS? YES, BRIEFLY.

COUNCILMAN SMITH? UH, YES.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

MR. DENNIS.

UH, MY QUESTION IS, UH, HOW DOES THIS TASK ORDER IMPACT OVERALL? UH, I THINK WE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT MASTER PLAN.

HOW'S IT? SO THIS IS A, AN INTEGRAL PART OF THAT PART.

THE FIRST PART OF, UH, BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP AN ACCURATE AND, UH, USEFUL STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN IS TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MANAGING.

UH, SO EFFECTIVELY THIS IS MAKING SURE THAT WE KNOW ALL OF THE COMPONENTS OF OUR SYSTEM, HOW THOSE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS ARE INTERRELATED OR CONNECTED, AND THEN, UH, WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THOSE COMPONENTS ARE SO THAT WE CAN ASSESS WHAT REPAIRS MAY HAVE TO OCCUR IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE CAN APPROPRIATELY BUDGET, UH, FOR THOSE REPAIRS, AND THAT WE CAN APPROPRIATELY FORECAST ON WHAT THE CITY MAY OR MAY NOT NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE DEVELOPMENT CHANGES, UH, ANY TYPES OF, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, MAJOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE SYSTEM THAT ARE PROPOSED BY DEVELOPERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THIS IS THE, THE FIRST REAL SOLID STEP IN THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DATA THAT WE CAN BUILD AN EFFECTIVE PLAN FROM.

YEAH.

VICE MAYOR.

AND SO LET ME UNDERSTAND.

SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE, SO WE'RE UPDATING THE PLAN BY DOING THIS STEP, AND WHEN WAS THE PLAN LAST UPDATED, I GUESS? UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE THAT WE HAVE.

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REESE, UH, HAD LAST DONE THE STORMWATER MAINTENANCE PLAN.

IT WAS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE MY TENURE HERE.

OKAY.

UM, BUT, UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL UPGRADE TO THE PREVIOUS PLAN.

I THINK THE PREVIOUS PLAN HAD A LOT OF ASPIRATIONAL, UH, DETAILS TO IT.

MM-HMM .

AND A LOT OF GENERAL PRACTICE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING.

UH, THIS IS GOING TO GIVE A LOT MORE MEAT TO THE PLAN ITSELF SO THAT, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE A LOT MORE SPECIFIC.

OKAY.

UH, JENNY, THE OTHER THING THAT THIS INVENTORY DOES AND AND BEING ABLE TO MAP ALL OF OUR SYSTEM OUT, IS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO BETTER, UM, PERFORM BETTER MAINTENANCE, KEEP ON A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE, AND TO LET US KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONDITION OF THE PIPES AND WHEN TO MAINTAIN THEM.

AND THE, THE LAST MASTER PLAN REALLY WAS FOCUSING ON WHERE WE COULD DO WATER QUALITY PROJECTS.

AND SO I THINK THE, THE INVENTORY SIDE WAS A MINOR COMPONENT OF IT, AND THAT'S WHY WE REALLY NEEDED TO, TO BEEF UP THIS SECTION IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR, OUR PERMITS THAT WE HAVE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

GOOD ANSWER.

ALRIGHT, MR. LARISSA.

THANK YOU.

HEY, JAMES.

SO I GOT ONE FOR YOU.

HOW MANY MILES DO WE HAVE PIPING IN? UH, ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

WOW.

YEAH, THAT, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA STICK WITH THE ANSWER I'VE ALREADY GIVEN.

IT'S UNKNOWN.

UM, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A EXACT NUMBER OF WHAT OUR PIPES ARE BECAUSE SOME OF OUR PIPES HAVE STILL NOT BEEN FOUND AND TRACKED.

SURE.

ESPECIALLY IN THE DISTRICT'S 4, 3, 6.

UM, BUT IT IS IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILES OKAY.

OF PIPE.

AND, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO PUT A, YOU KNOW, A REALITY STICKER ON IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS HUGE.

YEAH.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY HUGE.

YEAH.

AND I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THE, UH, FRESHWATER CHANGE IN, UH, OLD ALI WHERE IT WAS TERRACOTTA PIPES, I THINK, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU'VE GOT A TASK AHEAD OF YOU OR THESE FOLKS TOO.

SO ANYWAY, THANKS.

I APPRECIATE IT, .

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

I'M NOT SAYING ANY OTHER COMMENT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR ENTERTAIN ONE? THANKS, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT.

WHAT? YES.

APPROVAL TASK ORDER NUMBER ESI 1 1 1 FOR THE STORM WATER CONVEYANCE INVENTORY AND EVALUATION FOR THE GSI DATABASE, TECHNICAL SUPPORT, CUSTOMIZATION AND REPORT DEVELOPMENT.

PROJECT NUMBER 2 5 0 1 9 RRES FLORIDA CONSULTING, LLC, DOING BUSINESS AS ESCIENCE INC.

ORLANDO, FLORIDA FOR $342,988.

ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE A SECOND OR THIS ALL? I, NOPE.

I GOT A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND I VOTE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

I NUMBER 13, MR. ENNIS.

ALL RIGHT.

KEEPING WITH THE, UH, CONSISTENCY OF STORMWATER, THIS IS FOR THE CONTRACT AWARD TO SHENANDOAH GENERAL CONSTRUCTION, LLC OF POMPANO BEACH, FLORIDA FOR STORM DRAIN CLEANING, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.

THIS IS A CONTRACT AWARD FOR STORMWATER DRAINAGE PIPE REHAB FOR VARIOUS CITY PROJECTS, INCLUDING DRAINAGE PIPE REPAIRS PRIOR TO RESURFACING ROADWAYS AND OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AROUND THE CITY, WHICH REQUIRE STORM DRAIN PIPE REHABILITATION, UH, SHENANDOAH, UH, THEY BASICALLY DO OUR CURE AND PLACE, UM, LINERS FOR STORMWATER SYSTEM.

UH, THESE TYPES OF, UH, REPAIRS EXTEND THE, UH, SERVICE LIFE OF THE EXISTING CULVERTS, UH, AT LEAST 50 YEARS.

UH, THESE ARE STANDARD REPAIRS THAT WE MAKE, UM, BEFORE WE DO ANY TYPE OF RESURFACING PROJECTS.

ALSO, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT USES THIS FOR MAINTENANCE OF A LOT OF THEIR PIPES AND SYSTEMS. UM, THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT POLICY ALLOWS FOR PIGGYBACKING CONTRACTS AWARDED THROUGH THE USE OF COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION BY OTHER AGENCIES.

UH, FOR THIS ONE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A PIGGYBACK OF THE BROWARD COLLEGE, UH, CONTRACT.

THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT WE'VE PIGGYBACKED BEFORE.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR DOES HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL HISTORY, UH, WITH THE CITY OF SUCCESSFULLY AND SATISFACTORY COMPLETING PROJECTS, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, CITY LIMITS.

UH, THE UNIT PRICES UNDER THIS CONTRACT WILL BE USED THAT ARE CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED.

THE PIGGY PIGGYBACK CONTRACT WOULD BE VALID UNTIL DECEMBER 2ND, 2027, WITH THE OPTION TO EXTEND FOR THREE ONE YEAR RENEWALS.

UH, THE SOURCE CONTRACT IS AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

UH, THE AGENDA MEMO INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL DEALS, DETAILS ON SCOPE AND WORK, AND THE CONTRACTING METHOD.

UH, THERE'S NO CURRENT FISCAL IMPACT, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE AWARD OF THIS PIGGYBACK CONTRACT.

HOWEVER, IF THIS IS, UH, SUCCESSFUL, WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING ITEM, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST WORK ORDER, UH, THAT WE'RE REQUESTING UNDER THIS CONTRACT, UH, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AWARD, SHENANDOAH GENERAL CONSTRUCTION, LLC OF POMPANO BEACH, FLORIDA, UH, FOR STORM DRAIN CLEANING, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON, UH, TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. UH, FOR THE PIGGYBACK OF THIS CONTRACT, UH, THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY CONTRACTORS THAT DO THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF WORK.

UH, SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DON'T GO AFTER ADVERTISEMENT OF THIS IS THAT WE WILL HAVE A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF, UM, FOLKS THAT ARE ABLE TO RESPOND TO IT BECAUSE IT IS A HIGHLY TECHNICAL, UH, TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND IT DOES REQUIRE, UH, SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT IN ORDER TO PERFORM.

UH, AND THE SECOND THING IS THAT THIS, UM, FOR THE CONTRACT RENEWALS, WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR EACH OF THOSE.

AND THERE MAY BE SOME PRICE ESCALATIONS THAT ARE

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REQUESTED AT THAT TIME.

BUT, UM, THAT'S, UH, SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

AND WHEN THOSE, UH, PARTICULAR ITEMS COME THROUGH, WE WILL BE BRINGING 'EM BACK TO COUNSEL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MR. ANAS.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ANNI? SEEING NONE, ANY COMMENTS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

UH, VICE MAYOR? YES.

APPROVAL OF CONTRACTOR AWARD.

SHENANDOAH GENERAL CONSTRUCTION, LLC, POMPANO BEACH, FLORIDA FOR STORM DRAIN CLEANING, REPAIRS, AND MAINTENANCE.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY.

ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND I VOTE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE MR. ENNIS.

ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 14.

UH, THIS IS WORK ORDER NUMBER ONE TO THE STORM DRAIN CLEANING, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, WHICH JUST APPROVED WITH SHENANDOAH GENERAL CONSTRUCTION, LLC FOR THE ANNUAL SPEND AMOUNT, UH, FOR THE CURED AND PLACE PIPELINING.

UH, THIS IS THE PURCHASE ORDER ISSUED FOR OUR STREETS AND STORM STORMWATER DEPARTMENT TO, UM, BASICALLY DO THEIR ANNUAL, UM, LININGS.

UH, IT'S OPEN PURCHASE ORDER WITH A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $250,000.

UM, THIS, AS I NOTED BEFORE IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM, THIS IS A VERY EFFECTIVE REPAIR METHOD FOR OUR PIPES.

IT ALLOWS US TO, UH, LINE THEM INSTEAD OF RIP THEM OUT OF THE GROUND AND REPLACE THEM, WHICH IS, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY MORE, UH, COSTLY AND MORE LIKELY TO, UH, RESULT IN A LOT LONGER DOWNTIME AND A LOT MORE CHALLENGING, UH, TYPES OF REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT IN A LOT OF INSTANCES AROUND THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE A ESTABLISHED INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

BUDGET NUMBER 1 4, 1 1 9 STORMWATER PIPELINING, VARIOUS AREAS.

UM, AND WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF WORK ORDER NUMBER ONE TO THE STORM DRAIN CLEANING, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE CONTRACT WITH SHENANDOAH GENERAL CONSTRUCTION OF POMPANO BEACH, FLORIDA, WHERE THE ANNUAL SPEND OR CURED IN PLACE PIPELINING IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. S? ALRIGHT, MR. LARUSSO, UM, HOW LONG HAS SHENANDOAH BEEN DOING THIS FOR US? HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN WORKING? HOW, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN GETTING THE ANNUAL CONTRACT? UH, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME ANNUAL CONTRACTOR? I'M NOT REAL SURE IT'S AT LEAST, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I THINK IT'S LESS THAN FIVE YEARS PREVIOUS CONTRACT.

OKAY.

I WANNA SAY THE ORIGINAL ONE'S LIKE 20 17, 20 18, SO OKAY.

YEAH.

IN THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, I MEAN, THEY'VE CAPTURED IT EACH AND EVERY YEAR FOR QUITE A WHILE, SO I JUST WANTED 'EM TO, THE, THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT EXPIRED, UM, WE HAD RUN OUT OF RENEWAL PERIODS, AND THAT WAS A, UM, I THINK IT WAS A THREE PLUS ONE PLUS ONE.

SO IT WAS FIVE YEARS, UH, PRIOR TO THAT.

UM, AND I BELIEVE WE WERE USING THEM BEFORE THEN ALSO.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THEIR SERVICES BECAUSE THEY'RE BACK AGAIN.

OKAY.

THEY HAVE DONE MANY, MANY SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS FOR US.

UM, WE USE THEM FREQUENTLY FOR OUR ANNUAL RESURFACING, UH, CONTRACTS.

UH, THEY TEND TO BE EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE, UH, FOR SCHEDULE WISE.

UM, THEY WORKED WITH US QUITE WELL AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE OUR REPAVING AND SOME OF OUR OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS.

UH, I KNOW I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY, UH, COMPLAINTS OR NEGATIVE, UH, REVIEWS FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UH, REGARDING THE PERFORMANCE ON SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS.

SO IT'S, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALL CLEAR.

AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD PROJECTS WITH THEM SO FAR.

I ONLY ASK BECAUSE WE'RE FACING A, A PRETTY TOUGH CHALLENGE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE NEW, UH, ROLLING OUT TARIFFS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND SO THE PRICE ESCALATIONS, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR, UH, UM, WITH THEIR CHEMISTRY TO, YOU KNOW, RELY THE PIPES.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR PRICING IS IN PLACE AND THEY HAVE THE, UH, THEY HAVE THE PRODUCT IN, UH, IN THEIR INVENTORY.

UH, YES, WE, IN OUR REVIEW OF THE ORIGINAL BASE CONTRACT, UH, WE DO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR, THEIR UNIT PRICES ARE IN LINE WITH STATEWIDE AVERAGES WITH DOT.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR BASELINE OF COMPARISON THAT'S USED.

UM, THE ESCALATIONS THAT THEY'VE HAD WITH THEIR PRICES FROM THEIR PREVIOUS CONTRACT WERE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE CON UM, CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.

UH, THEY DO USE A CURE IN PLACE FIBERGLASS LINER THAT HAS AN EPOXY RESIN INJECTION.

UM, THE EPOXY RESINS, THE, THE FIBERGLASS LINERS THERE HAVE BEEN INCREASES IN THOSE RAW MATERIALS COST OVER THE YEARS, AND THOSE WERE PASSED ON TO US MM-HMM .

AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY'VE ALSO ADDED SOME OF THEIR LABOR INCREASES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMON THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.

THAT'S FINE.

THANK YOU, JAMES.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

VICE MAYOR.

OF COURSE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. RENOS? SEEING NONE, ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

VICE MAYOR.

YES.

APPROVAL WORK ORDER NUMBER ONE TO THE STRAIN STORM DRAIN CLEANING, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE CONTRACT WITH SHANNON.

DO SHANNON DOA, GENERAL CON CONSTRUCTION, LLC, POMPANO BEACH, FLORIDA FOR THE ANNUAL SPEND FOR OCCURRED IN PLACE.

PIPE LINING IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 250002ND.

ALRIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

I VOTE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I DON'T SEE THERE ARE ANY ITEMS PULLED.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? THANKS, MAYOR.

LIKE BEFORE DO THE MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, UH, ITEMS NUMBER E AND FI THINK ESPECIALLY NOT ITEM NUMBER E.

UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE GETTING NEW

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EQUIPMENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO I, I DON'T WANT TO PULL IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

IN F IS ALSO A PROJECT WITH THE BREVARD ZOO.

I JUST THINK THAT THOSE ARE REALLY TWO, UH, HIGHLIGHTS THAT I'M SEEING IN THIS CONSIDERED AGENDA.

SO JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO THE CITY'S STAFF.

THAT'S GREAT.

DO YOU WANNA ENDORSE IT WITH A MOTION? OH, , I HAVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSIDERED AGENDA.

UH, PERFECT.

I HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, I, ALRIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SMITH, A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.

ALL FLOWS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

IYE VOTE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 17 PRESENTED BY MS. DIMMER.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S AN ORDINANCE.

ADAM, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ IT? THANK YOU.

VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 20.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

RE RELATING TO CONFERENCE OF PLANNING AMENDING APPENDIX D, CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE AMENDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENT, SANITARY SEWER SUB ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAKING FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

ALRIGHT.

PRESENTING AS MS. DITMER? YES.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE, UM, ADOPTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENTS, UM, TO ADD TWO NEW POLICIES INTO OUR SANITARY SEWER SUB ELEMENT WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, THERE'S BEEN RECENT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES BACK DATING INTO 2023 THAT REQUIRED THESE CHANGES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, NOVEMBER OF 2024 COUNCIL DID REVIEW THESE CHANGES AND, UM, APPROVED TRANSMITTAL OF THE LANGUAGE TO, UM, FLORIDA COMMERCE FOR REVIEW.

AND WE'VE NOW RECEIVED THOSE, UM, UM, COMMENTS BACK.

UH, THERE ARE THE SAME NEW TWO POLICIES THAT WERE PROPOSED ORIGINALLY.

UM, POLICY NUMBER 1.2 0.5 WILL REQUIRE THE CITY TO LIST THE APPLICABLE POLLUTANT LOAD REDUCTION PROJECTS, UM, TO MEET OUR TOTAL MAXIMUM DAILY LOAD, UM, ESTABLISHED IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON BASIN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN TO PUT THOSE PROJECTS WITHIN OUR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, ALONG WITH A NEW, UM, POLICY THAT WILL REQUIRE THE CITY TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF CONNECTING DEVELOPMENTS OF MORE THAN 50 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UM, THAT HAVE, UM, AN ONSITE DISPOSAL, UM, SEWER SYSTEM OR SEPTIC SYSTEM.

SORRY.

UM, AND, UM, TO REVIEW THOSE, UM, THE ONE COMMENT THAT WE DID GET BACK FROM THE STATE, UM, ASKED US TO ADD THE LANGUAGE IN.

WE ACTUALLY COMPLETED THAT REVIEW.

AND AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING, UM, ANY AREAS THAT QUALIFY UNDER THAT NEW REQUIREMENT.

SO WE'VE JUST ADDED THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, SENTENCE BASICALLY INTO THE COMP PLAN.

UM, THAT'S WHAT THE STATE ASKS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

UM, SO, UM, THAT'S, UM, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING ARE THOSE TWO NEW POLICIES.

WITH THAT MINOR CHANGE SINCE COUNCIL SAW IT, UM, BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 24, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UM, OF THAT ORIGINAL TEXT LANGUAGE ALSO, UM, IN 2024.

AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 20 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.

ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MS. DIMER? SEEING NONE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNSEL ANY COMMENTS OR DIRECTION? VICE MAYOR? YES.

APPROVE OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 20 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.

OKAY.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BASSETT, A SECOND BY MS. SMITH.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

FIRST, FIRST REASON.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE, UH, ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND AYE.

VOTE AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, ADAM, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

AGENDA ITEM 18.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 21, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING APPENDIX D CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE AMENDING THE INTRODUCTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE FUTURE LAND USE PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES, TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, INFRASTRUCTURE, CONSERVATION, COASTAL MANAGEMENT, INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE OFFICIAL MA UH, MAP ATLAS, INCLUDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SERIES TO ADD TEXT 2024 DASH 0 0 1 9 EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REVIEW AMENDMENTS, MAJOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS TO IMPLEMENT AMENDMENTS BASED UPON THE CITY'S 2023 EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REVIEW NOTIFICATION LETTER TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

PRESENTING ON THIS IS MS. DIMMER? YES.

SO THIS IS ALSO THE FIRST THREE AND ORDINANCE ADOPTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENTS.

THESE ARE BASED UPON OUR EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REVIEW THAT WAS CONDUCTED.

UM, THESE ARE, UM, MAKING MODIFICATIONS, UM, TO NINE OF OUR DIFFERENT ELEMENTS WITHIN THE

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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALONG WITH THE OFFICIAL MAP ATLAS.

UM, AT THE END OF 2023, UM, WE STARTED OUR EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL, UM, REVIEW PROCESS.

AND THEN, UM, THIS PAST NOVEMBER IN 2024, COUNSEL APPROVED THE TRANSMITTAL OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE STATE FLORIDA, UM, COMMERCE FOR REVIEW.

UM, IN THIS CASE, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS FROM THE STATES, SO WERE ADOPTING THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT COUNCIL SAW BACK IN NOVEMBER.

UM, BUT JUST BRIEFLY, UM, THESE WERE ALL RELATED TO LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, THE PRIMARY CHANGE THAT WAS REQUIRED WITH THIS ONE IS THAT WE HAD TO EXTEND A, UM, NEW PLANNING HORIZON AS FAR AS, UM, HOW FAR OUT WE TAKE THE COMM PLAN IN.

IN LOOKING AT THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS, WE HAD TO TAKE THAT OUT TO A NEW 20 YEAR, UM, UH, PLANNING HORIZON, WHICH PUTS US TO 2045.

AND, UH, THAT ALSO REQUIRED US TO GENERATE NEW POPULATION PROJECTIONS, UM, THEN REVIEW OUR HOUSING ELEMENT TO ASSURE THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER LAND USES IN PLACE TO ACHIEVE THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING FOR THOSE POPULATION PROJECTIONS.

UM, SO OUR CONSULTANTS WENT THROUGH, UM, A GOOD BIT OF DATA AND ANALYSIS THAT SUPPORT THIS NEW PLANNING HORIZON.

AND THEN THERE WERE ALSO TWO SMALL CHANGES, UM, THAT WERE ALSO LEGISLATIVE, UM, THAT THE, THE STATE'S MANDATED THAT WE ALLOW, UM, A, UH, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS IN, UM, ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS AS WELL AS SOLAR FACILITIES.

UM, AND THE THAT LANGUAGE HAS ALSO BEEN ADDED TO, UM, INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THESE CHANGES.

UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ALSO REVIEWED THIS BACK IN NOVEMBER AND STAFF RE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005, 2025 DASH 21 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DIMMER? SEEING NONE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, YES.

REAL QUICK.

IT SAYS WE'RE GONNA HAVE 120,000 PEOPLE IN, UM, 2045.

HOW MANY HAVE WE GOT NOW? WE ARE ABOUT 88, ALMOST 89,000 I THOUGHT.

YEAH.

SO WE GOT A NEW ESTIMATE FOR THE EXTRA ONES TO COME ON IN.

WHAT? I'M SORRY.

DID WE HAVE ROOM FOR THE EXTRA ONES TO COME IN? WE DO.

WE DO, WE DO A WHOLE ANALYSIS BASED ON THE BUILD OUT OF OUR CURRENT FUTURE LAND USES HOW MANY UNITS THAT WOULD, UM, ALLOW.

WE HAVE POPULATION PER UNIT.

IT'S ALL CALCULATED TO SAY WE HAVE THESE SUFFICIENT LAND AND FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT POPULATION.

INCREASE LEGISLATION.

UH, REALLY BRINGS A LOT OF HEARTWARMING TASKS TO YOU, DOESN'T IT? IT, IT DOES, YES.

.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MS. DIMMER? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR A DIRECTION? VICE.

VICE.

OKAY.

MS. HANLEY, UM, APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 21 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY.

OH, SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

YE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AND AYE VOTE AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

SO WE'RE GOING INTO ITEM D, PETITIONS OR MONS MONS AND COMMUNICATIONS.

I JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT IT'S 7 51 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY.

WE RAN A VERY EFFICIENT MEETING.

ALL I MISS BASSETT.

I I VERY GOOD.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD IT IN YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT.

OKAY, MS. HAMLEY? NO, NO.

THAT WAS VERY NO, MS. KENNEDY, I HAVE NOTHING.

BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON, UM, THE GETTING THE, UM, CITY STAFF TO DRAW UP SOME KIND OF, UH, CHANGE TO A ZONING.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MR. SMITH? UH, YES, VICE MAYOR.

UH, COUNSEL, UH, THREE QUICK POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP.

UH, ONE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE USE OF THE, THE LAND, UH, WITH, UH, THE COUNTY AND BBAR RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL, STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE BRING THIS UP AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, UH, FOR, FOR USE AS OPPOSED TO BRINGING IT UP HERE.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.

A COUPLE OF THINGS TO MAYBE LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT, UH, TEMPORARY USE IN LIGHT OF, I KNOW WE GOT THE LAND USAGE AND ZONING AND PERMIT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UH, HAVE IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT WAYS WE'RE GOING TO EITHER MOVE FORWARD OR TRY TO PROJECT WHAT MAY HAPPEN FOR THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S MY PROPOSAL.

SO, SO YOU'D LIKE TO, YOU'RE ASKING TO PUT THE LAND USE ON THE AGENDA? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? WHAT, WHAT IS IT? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

GO AHEAD.

YES.

JUST DISCUSSION ITEM.

YEAH, DISCUSSION ITEM.

JUST TO DISCUSS THE USE OF THAT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY? ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE CONSENT WE WOULD NEED? YES.

YES.

IT'S THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY, SO WE HAVE TO LOOK WHAT THE COUNTY IS,

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WHAT THEIR PROCESS IS BEFORE WE NEED TO BRING IT FORWARD FOR US.

SO I THINK YOU'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE BECAUSE WHETHER THE COUNTY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT OR LEAVE IT OR NOT DO IT, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT UNLESS WHAT THE, SINCE IT'S COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY, WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO BEFORE WE CAN SAY ANYTHING TO THAT POINT.

THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL.

YEAH.

SO I'M ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE COUNTY SAID ONE YEAR, SO WE'RE STILL WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME.

SO WE, I DON'T WANT US TO JUST SIT AND WAIT.

UH, AS FAR AS, SO LET'S HAVE IT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

LET THE, UH, THE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S, WHO'S ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO IT AND, AND LET'S JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THE POINTS.

BUT IT, BUT IT'S ALREADY, THE COUNTY STILL OWNS IT.

SO WHETHER THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE EVERY DISCUSSION WE WANT.

THEY OWN THE PROPERTY.

LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO, I, I MEAN, I'M, AND LE KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF YOUR ARGUMENTS, HANLEY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WOULD'VE TO HAVE MORE OF A DISCUSSION ON WE THE PERMITTED LIKE USES, LIKE ALLOWING FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING, LIKE WITH THE STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE LAND.

BECAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY DICTATE TO THE COUNTY WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT DO WITH THE LAND.

THAT THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH.

SO IT IS ABOUT TEMPORARY USE TIMEFRAME.

SO YOU, SO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT, SIR.

I THINK THAT, UH, IN, UH, ABSENCE OF, UH, THE MAYOR, UH, HE WOULD TASK YOU TO GO OUT TO, UH, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND GET THE CONSENSUS FROM THEM AS TO HOW THEY FEEL.

OKAY.

AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE DISCUSSION.

I, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I, WE CAN GET CONSENSUS FROM IT.

'CAUSE AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT THEY GAVE DISCUSSION, THEY GAVE ONE YEAR.

THAT'S ALL I KNOW.

DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

SO, SO LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION INTERNALLY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S ON OUR RADAR.

MM-HMM .

IT'S IN OUR BACKYARD.

THE COUNTY HAS SAID ONE YEAR.

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, WE'VE ALL SORT OF COULD HAVE CONJECTURE ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT AS A DISCUSSION POINT, MAYBE WE'LL COME AWAY WITH, UH, GUIDANCE AND OF COURSE WITH PETER HERE, CITY STAFF HAS BEEN MEETING WITH HIM.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE BEFORE WE KNOW IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

I MEAN, SO THEN YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND THEN HAVE ALL THAT CONSENSUS AMONGST THE COUNCIL AND THEN YOU GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ONE BY ONE AND TELL 'EM EXACTLY WHAT IF THAT'S, THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE WAY IT ENDS UP, I, I WOULDN'T MIND DOING THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

COOL.

ALRIGHT.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD RESOLUTION.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, SO, SO YOU'RE GONNA GO AND SO YOU'RE GONNA START WITH THAT AND THEN BRING BACK TO US WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU FIND OUT FROM THEM.

NO, NO.

NO DISCUSSION POINT WITH US FIRST.

FIRST.

OH, YOU, OKAY.

SO, SO, AND THEN, THEN TO THE COUNTY.

SO YOU GOT ONE, TWO, IT'S ALL OVER.

I DON'T MIND.

OKAY.

COUNT FOUR.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THOUGH.

OKAY.

UH, MY NEXT POINT, UM, I READ, I WAS AT A COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION ALLIANCE MEETING, UH, A PURPOSE BUILT COMMUNITY CAME NOW TO VISIT.

AND, UH, THE IDEA THAT CAME FROM THAT WAS ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS WAS TO LOOK AT A NEIGHBORHOOD FOCUS PLAN, UH, WHICH IS, THAT WAS SOMETHING I HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE AS FAR AS HAVING A, A COMMUNITY HAVE A DIVISION.

SO, UH, WANDA, MAYBE THIS IS ALL NEW FOR ME, BUT LOOK AT BUDGETING, UH, FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD FOCUS PLAN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

WE GOT THE BUDGET MEETING COMING UP.

SO I'M, I'M REALLY JUST SORT OF LANDED OUT PUTTING A LINE, UH, PLANTING A SEED TO SAY THAT, UH, THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

SO DURING BUDGETING, YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

OKAY.

YEP.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST PART OF OUR, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT DURING THE BUDGETING.

LIKE WE'RE ALL HAVE A COUPLE MEETINGS ON IT, SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE, YEAH.

AND THEN MY, MY THIRD AND UH, AND UH, FINAL POINT IS THAT, UH, ONE OF OUR PUBLIC FACING PROCESSES IS OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT AND PERMITTING PROCESS.

UH, THAT'S JUST BEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS, UH, ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.

UH, THINGS THAT, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFECTIVE.

SO, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND PROPOSE IS LOOKING AT, UH, DO A LAND DEVELOPMENT AND PERMITTING WORKSHOP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

UH, MAYBE LIKE A TWICE A YEAR.

THE MAYOR, UH, BROUGHT IT UP AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING.

WE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT, UH, HOW PEOP HOW LOCAL CONTRACTORS DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

I MEAN, SO THIS IS SORT OF GOING ALONG THAT WAY.

WE JUST HAD A NEW ORDINANCE THAT WAS, UH, GIVEN OUT TONIGHT.

BUT HOW WE COMMU HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THAT WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS? SO, UH, MY MY POINT IS LOOKING AT PROPOSING A LAND DEVELOPMENT AND PERMITTING WORKSHOP.

MAYBE A, A A TWICE A YEAR TYPE THING, OR ONCE A YEAR TYPE THING.

SO, YES.

ALRIGHT.

UM, OH YES, MS. MS HANDLING.

I THINK YOU'RE KIND OF STEPPING IN WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS.

YOU'RE KIND OF STEPPING INTO THE MANAGER'S ROLE.

SHE'S THE ONE WHO, HOW DIRECTS IT.

WE'RE NOT THE ONE THAT'S THE DAY, DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS US, JENNY.

NO, NO.

THAT'S THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS YOU'RE GETTING INTO.

WE ARE NOT DOING DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.

WE ARE THE BOARD MEMBERS.

THAT'S, THAT'S OUR JOB.

WE DON'T GO INTO THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.

SO I THINK IF YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING TO JENNY AND SEE WHAT SHE DOES.

BUT WE DO NOT

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NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR, OUR OUR JOB TITLES NOW, JENNY, AND MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, IS THAT A COUNCIL WORKSHOP OR DO YOU WANT STAFF TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE ENGINEERS IN THAT COMMUNITY? AND WHEN I SAY THAT IT, IT MIGHT NOT BE A WORK, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WHAT WE CONSIDER A COUNCIL WORKSHOP, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT STAFF COULD POSSIBLY DO MAYBE TWO TIMES A YEAR JUST TO GET OUT ANY NEW THINGS OR WHERE WE'RE SEEING PROBLEMS AND GETTING FEEDBACK TOO FROM THEM OF WHERE THEY'RE SEEING PROBLEMS. SO THAT, THAT'S JUST A QUESTION OF IF, IF YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A COUNCIL WORKSHOP OR LOOKING FOR STAFF TO DO SOMETHING, MR. SMITH WOULD, DO YOU WANT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE? TIGHTEN UP WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

IS IT COUNCIL OR IS IT STAFF GUYS? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BUT I JUST THINK THAT HAVING THE VEHICLE TO PRESENT INFORMATION, I, I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE IN LINE OF WHAT THE, THE LATTER OF WHAT YOU STATED.

SO, UH, AS A WAY OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATING.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE STAFF OR THAT'S THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP, BUT I, I WOULD SAY THAT FROM THE HOMELESS WORKSHOP THAT WE DID AND A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT TAKEAWAYS AND ACTIONS AND CLARITY, UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM THAT.

YOU KNOW, SO, UH, WHICHEVER WAY AND, AND WE COULD ALL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE DEFINITELY IN LINE WITH WHAT, WHAT YOU SAID WITH THE LADDER.

SO IS THAT COUNCIL OR CITY? THAT WAS CITY STAFF.

CITY STAFF, OKAY.

OKAY.

BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT I THINK MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, JUST MY 2 CENTS ON IT.

'CAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IN THE COMMUNITY IS ABOUT PERMITS AND MAYBE IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL THAT THERE'S MAYBE A, YOU KNOW, A WORKSHOP OR PART OF THE MEETING WHERE WE JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE PERMITTING PROCESS, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE EVERYBODY, INCLUDING US HERE ON COUNCIL, HOW THAT WORKS.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL WITH SOME OF THE CALLS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND HELPFUL FOR US TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA AND THAT, THAT THEN WE COULD TALK ABOUT POLICY OR OVERSIGHT OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT I THINK MAYBE A GOOD STARTING POINT IS, YOU KNOW, THEN THE PUBLIC CAN COME IN IF THERE'S A CONTRACTOR WHO'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS AND THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION OF WHAT GOES ON AT CITY HALL AND THEN YOU AND I AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN PERMITTING.

DOES THAT SOUND KIND OF UP THE ALLEY OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? ABSOLUTELY.

AND I THINK THAT CITY STAFF DOES A WONDERFUL JOB.

AND SO CITY STAFF LEADING, UH, BECAUSE THE WHOLE IS THE WHOLE POINT WOULD BE ENSURING THAT WE'RE HELPING THEM TO GET THE WORD OUT AND MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT.

YOU KNOW, REDUCE WORKLOAD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THANKS MAYOR.

YEAH, MISS.

UM, AND I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, IT'S THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES TOO, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO DO THINGS.

THEY'RE THE ONE STOP SHOP.

SO I WAS TALKING TO, UM, AN ENGINEERING FIRM AT THE LAS LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING, AND THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY DO ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURE, THEY DO EVERYTHING.

SO SOMETIMES THE ARCHITECTURE, THEY CAN SEE CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR SYSTEM, BUT THEY CAN'T SEE OTHER PARTS TO OUR SYSTEM.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD COME OUT OF THOSE MEETINGS.

LIKE WHAT IS THE ONE ROADBLOCK THAT IS KEEPING US FROM, UM, PUTTING OUR PAPERWORK IN PROPERLY IN A TIMELY MANNER.

SURE.

UH, AND SO, UM, MR. SMITH, SO I COULD RUN WITH THIS BALL REAL QUICK.

YEAH.

JENNY, WHAT WOULD YOUR, UH, WOULD YOU THINK AN AGENDA ITEM OR SEPARATE WORKSHOP WOULD BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE? I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU THINK THAT WOULD GO TO JUST GIVE KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THAT, UH, PROCESS AND EVERYTHING.

WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM IF WE'RE NOT WANTING TO WORKSHOP IT.

I COULD GO EITHER WAY JUST ON WHAT THE PROCESS IS, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD PUT IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE AND JUST HIT ON THE HIGH POINTS.

I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY LEAN HEAVILY ON BOTH, UM, CINDY JAMES AND OUR BUILDING DIVISION MM-HMM .

AND WE'D COME UP WITH THAT AND JUST SORT OF DO A QUICK OVERVIEW.

AND WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT IN 10 TO 15 MINUTES, JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.

AND THEN I, I DO EVEN, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH WAS LOOKING FOR, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HOLD, HOLD SOME STAFF OUTREACH.

YOU KNOW, I HESITATE TO CALL 'EM WORKSHOPS 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT COUNCIL WORKSHOPS, BUT SOME OUTREACH MEETINGS WE COULD, WE COULD HOLD TOO.

YEAH.

BUT, SO MR. SMITH, I'M ON BOTH DEFINITELY.

I'M DEFINITELY THE OUTREACH, UH, IS I THINK THE KEY COMPONENT BECAUSE WE WANT OUR CITIZENS AND OUR, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT IS GONNA BE USER FRIENDLY TO THEM.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO IT INTERNALLY ALSO.

I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THAT.

RIGHT.

WELL, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO DO IT ON HERE BECAUSE I KNOW I'M GETTING EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR US TO, IF IT'S 10 OR 15 MINUTES JUST TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON YEAH.

AND UNDERSTAND IT, THEN I THINK WE'LL BE MORE EDUCATED ON WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

I'VE GOT THAT.

MS. HAMLEY.

OKAY.

I, I KNOW WE ARE GETTING SOME OF THESE, AND I, IT'S TAX SEASON, SO I GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

AND THERE WAS ONE EMAIL THAT WE, THAT OUR CITY MANAGER GAVE TO US THAT SHE SENT OUT.

HE IS AN ENGINEER OUT OF ANOTHER STATE.

HE LOOKED AT IT AND

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I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR? AND HE GOES, THAT WAS ALL STANDARD INFORMATION THAT, THAT THEY, THAT THE CITY REQUESTED THAT YOU GO TO ANY PLACE THEY'VE, THEY HAPPENED TO BE FROM MASSACHUSETTS AND THEY SAID THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY WENT, THAT'S ALL STANDARD INFORMATION THAT ANYBODY THAT'S DOING A DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE A CITY WOULD BE ASKING FOR.

SO I THINK SOMETIMES SOME OF OUR, OUR, UM, CONTRACTORS DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THINGS.

I MEAN, THERE WAS IF, AS WE KNOW THE LETTER THAT THERE WAS DRAINAGE THAT WASN'T MEETING TO THE ROAD.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING WELL, THAT WE WERE BEING VERY TOUGH AND GOD FORBID THAT, THAT WE WILL GO FORWARD AND THEN THERE WE HAVE ALL THIS FLOODING, THEY'RE GONNA ALL COME BACK TO US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND GOING, YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LETTER THAT'S SAYING THAT WE'RE VERY TOUGH.

THEN THERE WAS, AS WE ALL GOT THE EMAIL THIS PAST FRIDAY THAT SOMEBODY COMPLAINED AND, UH, THEY WENT THROUGH THE WATERY, THE WA THE WATER LINES MM-HMM .

BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND THEY WERE SCREAMING AND HOLLERING ABOUT EVERYTHING.

SO LET'S KIND OF HOLD OFF ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE BECAUSE, UH, THEY DID A LOT OF DAMAGE ON FRI YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT FRIDAY ON, UH, WICKHAM ROAD AND IT'S DRAINED, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOWN TO ONE LANE, IT'S A PROBLEM.

RIGHT.

AND MS. HANLEY, YOU JUST GAVE US THREE REASONS WHY THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS SO THAT IF WE GET THOSE EMAILS AND THOSE COMPLAINTS THAT WE CAN ACCURATELY AND EDUCATIONALLY RESPOND TO THEM.

SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO BE THAT.

WE'RE NOT, WE SHOULD NOT WELL, WE'RE THE REPRESENTATIVES.

NO, BUT WE'RE NOT ENGINEERS.

WE ARE NOT THE ENGINEERS FOR THOSE THINGS.

WE DO KNOW, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH TO LOOK AT 'EM, BUT WE ARE NOT GONNA BE SITTING THERE.

I'M NOT GONNA ANSWER GOING, THIS IS A PROBLEM.

I MEAN, I CAN LOOK AT IT AND CAN SEE, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR, WE SHOULD NOT BE RESPONDING IT TO IT.

THAT'S A STAFF RESPONDING TO IT.

BUT I WANNA BE ABLE TO STAND UP FOR JENNY AND MR. RENI IF THERE'S A CONCERN.

I'VE, I THINK THAT IT, IT COMES A LONG WAY WHEN WE STAND UP FOR OUR STAFF.

AND IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THAT'S, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT.

BUT I MEAN, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THANK YOU STAFF FOR, UM, NOT ALLOWING THIS TO GO FORWARD.

THAT THESE, SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO GO FORWARD THAT YOU'RE SAYING US THE, THE CITIZENS AND THE NEW, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS IN THOSE AREAS HAVING PROBLEMS. I MEAN, SOME OF THEM WERE PRETTY STANDARD IF YOU LOOKED AT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE AS INDIVIDUALS, I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE ELECTRICAL, I MEAN, UM, AN ENGINEERING PE I'M AS AN ACCOUNTANT, I GOT MY DEGREE IN AND LICENSED IN THAT.

SO THAT THOSE ARE, YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL WHEN WE SAY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS.

WE ARE NOT LICENSED TO DO THAT.

AT LEAST I'M NOT LICENSED TO DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A LICENSE IN ENGINEERING TO DO THOSE THINGS.

SO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT WE SAY GOING FORWARD, EVEN AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SURE.

UH, MS. KENNEDY, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I THINK GETTING THE WORD OUT OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS IS NOT SAYING, HERE'S THE PROCESS, BUT I'M GONNA MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR YOU BECAUSE OF WHAT, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THEM TO ADHERE TO OUR CODES, WE ADHERE TO WHAT WE NEED THEM TO DO TO NOT KIND OF FUDGE NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, AND I THINK OUR STAFF DOES A GREAT JOB IN DUE DILIGENCE IN THAT.

SO IT'S NOT A WAY TO GET AROUND IT, IT'S JUST THE KNOWLEDGE OF HERE'S HOW TO DO IT.

SO YOU DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND THEY'RE NOT WAITING FOUR MONTHS BECAUSE THE PAPERWORK WASN'T DONE PROPERLY.

SO YEP.

AND, AND ON THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT, SURE, WE GET ALL, WE ALL GET THE EMAILS AND WE ALL TRY NOT TO, UH, DIVE TOO DEEP INTO THE POOL BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GET OUR, YOU KNOW, TAILS IN TROUBLE.

UM, BUT HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER ARE CRITICAL SOMETIMES TO JUST RESPONDING BY SAYING, I WILL GET WITH STAFF.

I WILL FORWARD YOUR EMAIL AND, UH, LET ME HAVE, UM, THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ENGINEER, SOMEBODY GET BACK TO YOU.

AND THEY'LL COPY ME ON THIS, ON THIS EMAIL, AND AT LEAST I'LL BE IN THE LOOP.

NOW I'VE GOT ONE, WE ALL HAVE ONE THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE GROUND PRETTY SOON AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

IT'S GONNA BE A VERY DIFFICULT NEGOTIATION.

WE HAVE A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY YET.

AND WE WE'RE HAVING CHALLENGES INTERNALLY THAT I'VE SEEN FROM AN EMAIL TODAY THAT, UM, UH, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ANOTHER CHALLENGE WITHIN THE DEVELOPER IN OUR STAFF, AND IT ALWAYS CAME DOWN TO WHAT YOU SAID, DEVELOPER DIDN'T

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DO WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DAMN WELL DO.

YOU KNOW, SO, BUT EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT PERCEPTION ON IT.

SO IF WE COULD HAVE A 15 MINUTE CONVERSATION, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I MEAN, JUST TO UNDERSTAND IT, TO HAVE A FULL WORKSHOP, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, LET'S GET THROUGH THE CONVERSATION FIRST.

SURE.

MAYBE.

AND THEN IF IT, UH, PREDICATES OURSELVES TO, TO, UH, DO A WORKSHOP, THEN WE'LL GO WITH THE FLOW AND IN, IN THE INTEREST OF GETTING CONSENSUS AS WELL OF THE STAFF OUTREACH TO, YOU KNOW, ANY DEVELOPERS WHO JUST NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION ON IT.

ARE YOU OPEN FOR THAT AS WELL? BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS A TWO PART PIECE.

IT WAS THE AGENDA ITEM, AND THEN SHOULD THEY REACH OUT AND OFFER THEM ANY ADVISING? UM, I'M GONNA GO THE WAY THAT, UH, JENNY AND STAFF DD DETERMINE WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM IS GONNA BE.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA GO.

I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, UH, PRETEND THAT I'M, I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA PRETEND I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SURE.

OKAY.

NOPE.

THAT, NO, THAT'S GOOD.

AND THEN MS, I MEAN, WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR, BUT MS. BASSETT JUST IN, I DUNNO IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS BEFORE I MAKE SURE THAT THEY GOT WHAT THEY NEED.

I AGREED WITH, WHAT'S HIS NAME? .

FIRED.

I'M SORRY, JENNY, DID YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED? I HAVE ONE.

PERFECT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

MR. SMITH.

ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE, THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT, PERFECT.

MR. LARUSSO, REAL QUICKLY.

UH, WELL TWO THINGS.

FIRST THING, ONE OF THE JOYS OF MY LIFE THAT HAPPENED PERSONALLY WAS THAT I GOT TO SEE MY 4-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON, UH, HAVE HIS FIRST SOCCER GAME.

IT WAS THE MOST AMAZING THING TO SEE THESE EIGHT KIDS RUN AROUND CHASING THE BALL.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO WITH IT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY GOT IT.

, HAVING SAID THAT THOUGH, I, I FOUND AN INTERESTING, UH, UH, ARTICLE, UH, IN THE PAPER A COUPLE DAYS AGO, CAMPING WORLD, CEO, DEFY A MID LAWSUIT OVER HUGE AMERICAN FLAG.

HIS QUOTE, THE FLAG WILL NOT COME DOWN AS YOU READ INTO IT.

IT'S NOT THE SIZE OF THE FLAG, WHICH IS ENORMOUS, BUT IT'S THE SIZE OF THE FLAGPOLE.

SO I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CAMPING WORLD IN THIS TOWN THAT WE WON IN PALM BAY ANYWAY, BUT IF THERE WERE A SITUATION, I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE, GIVEN OUR SWING TOWARDS BEING A MORE PATRIOTIC NATION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT, UH, WHAT OUR CHALLENGES ARE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT MAY NOT BE IN, IN MY LIFETIME, BUT MAYBE IN YOURS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I ASK.

AND, AND THAT I CAN BE.

THANK YOU, JENNY.

I JUST, I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S ONLY FIVE AFTER EIGHT, YOU KNOW, JUSTICE.

DID YOU, OH, WE HAVE A BLUE MEMO FOR YOU, MR. LEWIS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

MY, MY MISTAKE.

I'M SORRY.

I GOT SO AHEAD OF MYSELF.

UM, TO CONTINUE.

UM, SO YOU GOT THE BLUE MEMO ABOUT THE, UM, UH, EXCEPTIONAL CITIZEN AWARD NOMINATION.

YEAH.

UM, IT'S ONLY SUPPOSED TO COME UP IN JUNE, UH, BUT I ASKED, UH, UM, KEVIN AND I ASKED JENNY IF WE COULD POSSIBLY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA JUST TO HAVE IT FOR AN AGENDA ITEM, UH, FOR THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A, UH, QUARTERLY, UM, UH, PROCESS LIKE THIS FOR A WHILE.

MM-HMM .

SO I'M MAKING THE, A NOMINATION FOR A DEREK BORE FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS.

EXCUSE ME JUST FOR A SECOND.

UM, I FEEL LIKE MARCO RUBIO, UM, .

SO, UM, UM, HE'S BEEN A, A HUGE ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.

HE PUTS ON SUMMER CAMP, ART SUMMER CAMPS, AND I'VE WORKED WITH HIM OVER THE YEARS AND HE'S OFFERED SCHOLARSHIPS TO THOSE WHO COULDN'T GO AND AFFORD, UH, UH, AN ART CAMP DURING, YOU KNOW, FOR A WEEK OUT OF THE SUMMER.

UM, HE'S A MEMBER OF A GALL BOARD.

HE'S ALWAYS IN THERE AND I RESPECT THE HECK OUT OF HIM.

AND I'D LIKE TO, TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK.

HE DOES A LOT OF UNDERCOVER WORK, BUT I MEAN, HE'S CULTURAL AND ARTS AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER REALLY, YOU KNOW, REWARD OR SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER, YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING FOR.

YEAH.

SO I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE HIM AND HAVE, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

YOU GUYS CAN THINK ABOUT IT, NOT THINK ABOUT IT, AND HAVE HIM COME IN THE NEXT MEETING.

AND IF WE CAN, UH, GIVE HIM THE, UH, NOMINATION FOR THE, FOR THE QUARTER, THEN WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HECK? I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD THING.

SECOND .

NO.

.

NO, I, I AGREE DERRICK.

DERRICK DOES WONDERFUL WORK THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND HE NEVER REALLY, IT'S SORT OF A THANKLESS THING.

A NUMBER OF EVENTS HE PAINTS, HE PROVIDES THE PAINTINGS AND FUNDRAISERS FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, ORGANIZATIONS.

SO, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE NOMINATE DEVELOPERS.

WE NOMINATE DOCTORS AND LAWYERS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT, THAT HAVE HIGH LEVEL, UM, INSIGHT INTO THE WORKINGS OF GOVERNMENT.

DEREK IS NOT THAT GUY.

YEAH.

HE HAS HIGH LEVELS OF INTEREST INTO THE COMMUNITY OF ART AND CULTURE.

YEAH.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE HIM, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT AND I SAID, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH IT? AND HE SAID, SURE.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MY, UH, MY COMMENT FOR, FOR THAT.

OKAY.

UM, THIS WOULD BE MY FIRST EXCEPTIONAL CITIZEN AWARD.

DO WE HAVE TO DO ANY SORT OF VOTE OR IS THAT JUST IF GET A CONSENSUS THAT WE CAN MOVE IT OFF TO THE AGENDA ITEM, UH, NEXT TIME TO VOTE ON IT? IS THAT CORRECT, JENNY? OR IT'S THE PROCESS? KEVIN, MR. CITY CLERK.

YES, SIR.

WE TYPICALLY JUST ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT OR TO SELECT , MR. GORES, AS THAT'S APPOINTED THIS QUARTER'S EXCEPTIONAL CITIZEN AWARD.

AND IF THAT'S THE MOTION THAT'S APPROVED, THEN WE'LL GET WITH HIM TOMORROW.

INVITE HIM TO THE NEXT MEETING OR SUBSEQUENT MEETING THAT HE'S AVAILABLE

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TO PRESENT HIM WITH THE CERTIFICATE AND THEN TAKE THE PROCESS FROM THERE.

OKAY.

SO, SO JUST A MOTION TO, SO I WAS, WELL, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LU, SO I HAVE A SECOND BY MR. SMITH.

ARE YOU KEEPING THAT MOTION? I'M, I, I'M KEEPING HIM A SECOND AND YEAH.

SUPPORT THAT.

ALRIGHT.

DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND IYE VOTE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE MR. LUSO? NO, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I'LL GET THE BUSINESS SIDE OF MINE OUT THE WAY REAL QUICK.

I BUMPED INTO OVER THE WEEKEND, UH, REPRESENTATIVE MONIQUE MILLER.

SHE REPRESENTS FOR, UH, FOR THE AUDIENCE'S PURPOSES AND THE COUNCIL, UM, 1 92 SOUTH.

BUT SHE HAS BEEN THE PERSON WHO HAS CARRIED ALL OF OUR APPROPRIATIONS, UH, BECAUSE OF ELECTIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE GOING ON.

UM, SHE WAS, WE, IT WAS A VERY SURE, WE DIDN'T REALLY GET TO TALK SHOP, BUT WHAT SHE DID, UH, PASS ON TO ME AND TO PASS ON TO Y'ALL IS, UH, TWO THINGS.

ONE, SHE WANTED TO GET VERY HIGH MARKS TO MR. KRISTA FOLEY.

SHE SAYS HE'S WORKING HIS TAIL OFF FOR US UP THERE AND SHE'S, YOU KNOW, HE'S REALLY DOING A GREAT JOB.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE HE GOT A SHOUT OUT ON THAT.

BUT THEN NUMBER TWO, SOME OF OUR APPROPRIATIONS, UM, SHE HAS, YOU KNOW, MR. CHRISTA FOLEY'S WORKING ON THEM.

BUT COUNSEL SUPPORT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

UM, I MEAN, SPECIFICALLY LIKE MS. UH, MS. HANLEY, THE FIRE STATION APPROPRIATION IS STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW.

AND SO SHE NEEDS OUR SUPPORT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND AMONG THAT AND OTHER PROJECTS, AT LEAST ON THE HOUSE SIDE.

SO I HAVE AT LEAST SET UP A MEETING WITH HER AND I HAVE SOME, UM, OTHER, UM, FEELERS OUT THERE TO TRY AND GET SOME MEETING WITH SOME REPRESENTATIVES.

BUT IF I COULD, I DID NOT GO ON, UH, BECAUSE MR. UH, OR MAYOR ALFRE WAS NOT IN FOR THE LAST MEETING.

I DIDN'T GO ON THAT TRIP TO TALLAHASSEE WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.

I'M HOPING THAT I COULD GET APPROVAL TO GO UP TO TALLAHASSEE NEXT WEEK AND ADVOCATE ON OUR BEHALF, UH, FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

UM, IF THE COUNCIL WILL ALLOW ME, UM, I FORGET, UH, WHAT, WHAT DO I NEED FROM THAT? UM, KEVIN SHOULD JUST, UH, EXPEND FUNDS FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TRAVEL AND PER DIEM BUDGET, WHICH WE BUDGET FOR INDEPENDENT TRAVEL FOR LOBBYING PURPOSES WOULD JUST BE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.

JUST APPROVAL TO, WAS IT A MOTION OR IS IT JUST CONSENSUS? I, I THINK CONSENSUS IS FINE IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS WILL OF THE GROUP.

OKAY.

MR. LARISSA, WHAT ARE YOUR DATES? ARE YOU PLANNING ON GOING? UM, I'M GOING, MY, MY FIRST MEETING WITH MS. MILLER IS ON THE 12TH, UH, NOT THE 12TH, WHATEVER.

TUESDAY IS NEXT WEEK.

YEAH.

AT 1230.

AND I'M TRYING TO BOOK MEETINGS AROUND IT.

I'M, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT AS I LIKE TO COMPARTMENTALIZE THING.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE EXPLAIN, WELL, IT'S 15TH.

THE 15TH AT, YES, THE 15TH AT 1230 IS MY MEETING WITH HER.

UM, BUT I'M WAITING TO HEAR FROM OTHERS.

I'M HOPING TO BOOK IT ALL AROUND THAT DATE.

UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT I GOT BACK.

I'M SORRY TO, TO, TO QUESTION YOU ON THAT.

I YEAH, NO WORRIES.

AND I WANNA FILL OUT YOUR FORM WHEN I GET BACK.

BY THE WAY, YOU, WHAT I WANT, THE FORM THAT YOU GAVE US FOR UH, GOING OUT FOR TRAVEL AND ALL THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO FILL ONE OUT AS WELL TOO.

BUT I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN ONE FROM MR. SMITH, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH.

HOWEVER, THE, UH, I ASK ONLY BECAUSE ARE YOU DRIVING OR ARE YOU FLYING? UH, I INTENDED TO DRIVE.

I WANNA BE AS ECONOMICAL AS POSSIBLE.

I THINK THAT'S DRIVING.

BUT WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? MY THOUGHTS ARE TO JOIN YOU BRIEFLY.

OH SURE.

THAT'D BE WONDERFUL.

I MEAN THE MORE THE MERRIER OF COURSE.

AND I WAS PLANNING ON TRYING TO GO UP THERE, BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO EXPEND THE, UM, UH, THE FUNDS.

SURE.

YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALLY.

SURE, SURE.

I MEAN, I KNOW I'VE KNOWN, UH, STEVE, CHRIS FOLEY FOR HELL, 20 YEARS MM-HMM .

SO I MEAN, IT, IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD MEETING WITH, UH, WITH ALL OF US I THINK.

SURE.

SO IF I CAN SWING IT, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, BUT IF YOU CAN APPROVE IT AND YOU KNOW, TO SAY OKAY.

TO GO WITH YOU TO DRIVE ON UP.

YEAH.

OR I CAN FLY UP AND FLY BACK.

I DON'T.

SURE.

AND WE'LL FIND OUT WHATEVER THE MEETING PART OF THE TAB.

I DON'T, I DON'T CARE, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH SURE.

WHATEVER YOU WANT.

I MEAN, THAT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE YOU UP THERE.

NO, PLEASE.

AND YOU CAN, EVERY MEETING THAT I BOOK, I'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU IN IT.

ALRIGHT.

SO TENTATIVELY I WOULD, I WOULD GO.

SO IF WE CAN APPROVE, IF WE CAN APPROVE BOTH OF THEM, THEN YOU KNOW, I MAY OR MAY NOT GO, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT AT LEAST IT'S, IT IS IN PLACE.

SURE.

IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? THAT AGREE WITH ME? I'M ALL ABOUT IT.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SORRY TO PIGGY BACK ON IT.

YES.

MISS, ARE YOU GOING UP FOR THE DAY OR ARE YOU GOING UP TWO DAYS? UH, IT, IT DEPENDS WHAT IF, IF I'M ABLE TO COMPARTMENTALIZE IT ALL, LIKE I WOULD PROBABLY DRIVE UP THE NIGHT BEFORE, DO EVERYTHING ON TUESDAY AND COME HOME.

MM-HMM .

IF, IF IT'S THE LEG RIGHT NOW WHAT? THEY'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF SESSION.

SO IF THEY TELL ME, HEY, I'M SORRY, WE CAN ONLY DO WEDNESDAY MORNING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IT'S GONNA BE OF VALUE, I MIGHT HAVE TO BOOK AN EXTRA DAY ONTO IT, BUT I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

AND I WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? I WOULD LOVE TO GO.

YEAH.

BUT I CANNOT.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO GO BUT CANNOT.

I THINK IT'S, SO I THANK YOU TOO FOR BEING ABLE TO GO.

OH, THANK YOU.

APRIL 15TH IS TAX DAY, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU, UH OH.

MINE'S ALL, I'M NOT LIKE YOU.

WHEN IS TAX DAY MS. HANLEY? BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANES.

IT'S MAY 1ST.

OH, THERE WE GO.

WE GOT SOME EXTRA TIME ON THE BOOKS.

MINE'S SO THEY DO EVERY DAY.

BUT, UM, DO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS? WE HAVE CONSENSUS.

EVERYBODY'S, YEAH, I'M GOOD.

I GOT 2, 3, 4, 5.

OKAY.

ARE YOU A SAFE DRIVER? YEAH, OF COURSE.

OKAY.

, IS THAT A COMMERCIAL? YEP.

BUT YOU CAN DECIDE.

LISTEN, IF YOU RETHINK

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ABOUT YOU SLEEP ON IT AND YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T, I DON'T TRUST THIS DRIVING.

LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN USE OUR WONDERFUL AIRPORT .

IT'S, IT'S A GREAT AIRPORT.

ONE OF THE BEST I SEE THE PEN, SO.

GREAT.

WELL I APPRECIATE THAT EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU FOR APPROVING COUNCILMAN THE RUSSOS AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN KEVIN STAFF, YOU GUYS GOT WHAT YOU NEED FROM US, UH, FOR THAT PIECE? YEAH, WE'LL GET WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING AND YEAH, FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK AND THAT SORT OF THING.

PERFECT.

SOUNDS GREAT.

UM, ALRIGHT, NEXT UP, UH, JUST WANNA MENTION THAT I WAS AT THE SUNRISE ROTARY CLUB TODAY.

THEY'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE CITY.

THEY SEND THEIR REGARDS.

UM, AND THEN I ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH BUSINESS OWNERS REGARDING PERMITS, UM, DOWNTOWN.

BUT I WANT TO THANK JENNY FOR A GREAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ABOUT PERMITTING, ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING WAS GOING.

UM, AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE OUR STAFF ON IT.

SO THANK YOU JENNY.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO ROUND IT OUT WITH, AS JENNY PUT THE PCRC MEETING IS THIS THURSDAY, APRIL 10TH AT OUR BRAND NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU GUYS ARE ALL WELCOME TO ATTEND AND THEN I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ELSE.

SO I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT EIGHT 17.