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SO, SO IS MY IPAD
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MARCH 25TH, 2025, UH, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, LET ME REVIEW THE PROCEDURES OF THIS MEETING.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND SUBMIT THE COMPLETED FORM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, USE THE MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR YOUR NAME AND CITY.
DO NOT ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY.
BE MINDFUL OF THE TIMER ON THE LECTERN AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE YOU'RE SPEAKING.
THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM.
AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE OR PERSON WHO HAS LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME AS REASONABLY DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE A RECORD BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
ANY PERSON WHO MAKES PERSONAL IMPERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS OR DISRESPECTFUL WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE CHAMBER.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING, AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION.
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND.
MARCUS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LAY US ANY VOCATION? YES, PLEASE.
GENTLEMEN, A MOMENT OF PRAYER.
AS WE GATHER TODAY IN SERVICE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, MAY WE SEEK WISDOM, DISCERNMENT, AND UNITY IN OUR DECISIONS.
MAY WE LEAD WITH INTEGRITY, COMPASSION, AND A DEEP SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY TO THOSE WE SERVE.
WE ASK FOR SPECIAL BLESSINGS UPON OUR CITY MAY CONTINUE TO GROW IN PROSPERITY, HARMONY, AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL.
BLESS OUR CITY STAFF, FIRST RESPONDERS AND PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO DEDICATE THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO MAKING MELBOURNE A BETTER PLACE.
GRANT THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, AND PROTECTION AS THEY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY EACH DAY.
ME, OUR WORK TONIGHT REFLECT THE COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE PROGRESS AND THE COMMON GOOD.
MAY WE LISTEN WITH OPEN HEARTS, SPEAK WITH PURPOSE AND ACT WITH DILIGENCE AND ALL THINGS.
LET US BE GUIDED BY THE VALUES OF SERVICE AND STEWARDSHIP.
ALRIGHT, PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE PER ALL.
MR. MCEWEN, CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO PRESENT.
MAYOR AEY WILL NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UH, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
UH, WILL THE PERSON FOR THE WATER CONSERVATION MONTH, PLEASE MEET ME IN THE FRONT.
ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA READ THE PROCLAMATION.
PROCLAMATION TO CLEARING APRIL, 2025 IS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH.
HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION, UH, PROCLAMATION IS MEGAN RUBIN AND JAMES CANNON PROCLAMATION, CITY OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
WHEREAS WATER IS A BASIC AND ESSENTIAL NEED OF EVERY LIVING CREATURE.
AND WHEREAS THE STATE OF FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO INCREASE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WATER CONSERVATION.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAVE DESIGNATED APRIL, TYPICALLY A DRY MONTH WHEN WATER DEMANDS ARE MOST ACUTE AS FLORIDA'S WATER CONSERVATION MONTH TO EDUCATE CITIZENS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN HELP SAVE FLORIDA'S PRECIOUS WATER RESOURCES.
AND WHEREAS FOR MANY DECADES, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE HAS ENCOURAGED AND SUPPORTED THE WATER CONSERVATION THROUGH VARIOUS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, SPECIAL EVENTS, AND WHEREAS EVERY BUSINESS, INDUSTRY, SCHOOL AND CITIZEN CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO CONSERVING WATER, THUS PROMOTING A HEALTHY ECONOMY AND COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS EFFICIENT IRRIGATION DESIGN, PROGRAMMING, AND MAINTENANCE CAN CONSERVE WATER, THE CITY WILL ENCOURAGE CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES TO EVALUATE THEIR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS FOR POTENTIAL EFFICIENCY ENHANCEMENTS.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I PAUL RE MAYOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL, 2025 AS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND CALL UPON EACH CITIZEN AND BUSINESS TO HELP PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS RESOURCES BY PRACTICING WATER SAVING MEASURES AND BECOMING MORE AWARE OF THE NEEDS, UH, TO SAVE WATER FOR THIS THE 27TH YEAR OF WATER CONSERVATION MONTH, THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL FOCUS ON IRRIGATION SYSTEM EVALUATION.
WITNESS MY HAND AND THE CITY AND THE CITY THIS 25TH DAY MARCH, 2025.
EITHER OF YOU GUYS WANNA SAY ANYTHING.
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NO, IT'S UP TO YOU.DO, DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? SURE.
HEY, WE, MEGAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, AND, UH, CITY OF MELBOURNE, THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE THE CITY'S EFFORTS, UH, TOWARD HIGHLIGHTING.
WATER CONSERVATION HAS MENTIONED THIS IS THE 27TH YEAR, UH, WHERE APRIL HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH.
UH, IT WOULD BE REAL EASY TO KIND OF BRUSH THIS ASIDE AS SORT OF A FEELGOOD THING, BUT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, ONCE A MONTH, BRING BACK TO EVERYBODY'S FOREFRONT TO CONSERVING THIS VITAL RESOURCE IN THE STATE.
AND WITH SO MANY PEOPLE CONTINUING TO MOVE TO FLORIDA, IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN SERVE WHAT WE CAN AND IT TAKES LITTLE THINGS.
UH, AGAIN, THIS, THIS YEAR IS, UH,
THIS IS WHY MEGAN'S HERE, UH, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. SO IF YOU HAVE A MINUTE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, MAKE SURE YOU CHECK YOUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM, MAKE SURE THERE'S NO LEAKS, UM, AND DO WHAT YOU CAN TO KIND OF RATCHET THAT BACK AND, AND, UH, CONSERVE.
OH, A PICTURE YOU GUYS TOGETHER.
UM, THE PROCLAMATION DECLARING 2025 AS PARKINSON'S DISEASE AWARENESS MONTH HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE APRIL 8TH MEETING, UH, PRESENTATION OF THE VOLUNTEER MILESTONE SERVICE AWARD WITH NANCY GARNER.
AND AS I STATED, FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE, MS. GARNER STARTED HER SERVICE VOLUNTEERING ON THE BABCOCK CRA IN FEBRUARY OF 2005, AND IN JANUARY OF 2025 WAS APPOINTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
MS. GARNER HAS WORKED FOR FLORIDA TECH FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND HAS SERVED AS THE ASSOCIATE DEAN OF LIBRARIES AND QUALITY ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM DIRECTOR.
PREVIOUS TO THIS, SHE WORKED WITH THE BREVARD PUBLIC LIBRARY AND SERVED AS THE DIRECTOR OF PORT ST.
JOHN PUBLIC LIBRARY FROM 2013 TO 2015.
WITH MS. GARNER'S VAST KNOWLEDGE, SHE HAS PROVED TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL ASSET TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
WE HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO HELPING TO KEEP THE CITY OF MELBOURNE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND HERE'S YOUR PEN.
DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TODAY? NO.
WELL, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
AND THEN JENNY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME DOWN FOR OUR PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, WELCOME UP BRUCE MCCLENNEY.
UM, HE IS RECEIVING HIS 20 YEAR SERVICE AWARD.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT? OKAY, SO I WILL, I'M GONNA GO OUTTA ORDER.
I'M GONNA HAND YOU YOUR PIN, YOUR SERVICE AWARD PIN, AND THEN ALSO YOUR GIFT CARD FOR YOUR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE.
SO DON'T RUN BECAUSE I WANNA SAY SOME NICE THINGS ABOUT YOU.
A GOOD THING I GAVE THAT TO YOU UP FRONT THEN.
UM, SO BRUCE MCCLENNEY WAS BORN IN MELBOURNE AND RAISED ALONG WITH TWO BROTHERS AND TWO SISTERS UNDER THE CARRYING EYE OF THE LATE RICHARD AND JUANITA MCCLENNEY BRUCE ATTENDED IN THE ATLANTIC ELEMENTARY AND HOOVER MIDDLE SCHOOL BEFORE GRADUATING FROM PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL.
AS A CHILD, BRUCE ENJOYED ALL SPORTS AND PARTICIPATED IN BASEBALL, BASKETBALL, AND FOOTBALL, AND CONTINUED TO EXCEL IN THOSE SPORTS IN HIGH SCHOOL.
AFTER GRADUATION, BRUCE SPENT 19 YEARS WORKING IN ELECTRONICS FOR SOLID STATE TESTING AND NOKIA MOBILE PHONES.
DURING THIS TIME, BRUCE STAYED TRUE TO HIS RECREATION ROOTS BY CONTINUING TO PLAY SOFTBALL, FLAG FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL.
HE ALSO VOLUNTEERED AS HEAD COACH FOR OVER 10 YEARS FOR THE LIPSCOMB PARK, LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL.
BRUCE DECIDED TO CHANGE CAREERS 20 YEARS AGO, VERY MUCH TO OUR ENJOYMENT AND, UH, FOR OUR PLEASURE.
SO HE CHANGED CAREERS AND TOOK THE RECREATION LEADER POSITION AT THE LIPSCOMB STREET COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS NOW THE EDDIE LEE TAYLOR COMMUNITY CENTER.
HE MOVED UP THE RANKS QUICKLY AND TRANSFERRED TO THE GRANT STREET COMMUNITY CENTER.
NOW THE JOSEPH IN DAVIS COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE YOU STAYED UNTIL YOU WERE HANDPICKED TO HELP WITH THE OPENING OF THE NEW WICKHAM PARK COMMUNITY CENTER IN 2015.
SO CURRENTLY BRUCE STILL RESIDES IN MELBOURNE AND ENJOYS TIME VOLUNTEERING AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
HE'S AN ACTIVE MEMBER AT MOUNT MARIAH MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
SORRY, I FORGOT THE CHURCH THERE.
AND SPENDS MOST OF HIS TIME RAISING HIS ONLY SON, RODERICK JR.
AND CHEERING ON HIS TAMPA BAY BUCKS.
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SO, OH, IT WASN'T A GOOD ONE.SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE.
WE HOPE YOU PLAN ON CONTINUING FOR EVEN MORE.
AND, UM, WE WILL GET COUNCIL TO COME DOWN TO TAKE A PICTURE.
BUT BEFORE THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? OH, OKAY.
NO, NO MORE THAN JUST, UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF MELBOURNE FOR HIRING ME 20 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, I LOVE SPORTS AND TO RUN, UH,
SO THAT'S ON MY MIND RIGHT NOW.
UH, YOU KNOW, BUT GOD WILL TAKE CARE MAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE.
YOU GUYS WANNA COME DOWN? HEY, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A PICTURE OF YOU PINNING IT ON THIS.
THAT WAS LIKE, AMPLIFIED BY THE MIC.
UH, NEXT UP IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 11TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVE SECOND.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SMITH, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, THE ITEM ON THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD ABOUT THE CROSSINGS.
I CAN GO INTO US MUCH LONGER AT LENGTH IF YOU WANT ME TO, OR I CAN STAY FAIRLY CONDENSED AND WE CAN CALL UP OUR CITY ENGINEER JAMES ENNIS IF WE, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
BUT IN A NUTSHELL, WE HAVE, UM, WE, BEING THE CITY, HAVE CLAIMED THAT THE FOUR CROSS THAT WE HAVE FOUR CROSSINGS OF, WHICH DON'T, WE KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS.
WE DON'T PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE TRACKS.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEY WERE ESTABLISHED AND THEY FALL UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES OF, UM, I THINK IF THEY, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT BEFORE 1982, THEN WE DIDN'T NEED AN AGREEMENT.
THERE WERE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS INSTALLED AS PART OF THE BRIGHT LINE PROJECT.
AND AT THIS TIME, FEC IS TRYING TO GET US TO SIGN AGREEMENTS TO MAINTAIN EVERYTHING AT THE CROSSINGS, NOT JUST THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS SOMETHING I THINK WE COULD DO BECAUSE THAT IS WELL NEEDED IN THOSE AREAS.
UM, WE'VE HAD SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH FEC.
UM, WHEN I WROTE THE, THE UPDATE MEMO, OUR, I HAD SAID WE MIGHT TRY WITH FEC ONE MORE TIME.
AFTER MEETING TODAY WITH STAFF, I MET WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
I MET WITH, UM, I DON'T, I MET WITH ALISON DOLLY, I DON'T KNOW HER EXACT TITLE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, WE, THE FOUR OF US MET AND WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE SAID THEIR PIECE, WE'VE SAID OUR PIECE.
AND SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE GOING TO WRITE TO DOT TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, PLEAD OUR CASE WITH THEM BECAUSE DOT DID REQUIRE THOSE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF THE PERMIT THAT THEY ISSUED FOR THE BRIGHT LINE PROJECT.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA ELEVATE IT UP TO THAT POINT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, UM, JUST, OR LIKE I SAID, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR JAMES, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OFFLINE, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE RECOGNIZE IT'S A PROBLEM.
JENNY, UH, WHAT ARE THE LOCATIONS FOR THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT DID THAT HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE? SO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT TOOK PLACE, THEY WERE AT FEE AVENUE, PROSPECT AVENUE, PALMETTO AVENUE, AND LINCOLN AVENUE.
SO PRETTY MUCH BETWEEN, UM, STRAWBRIDGE AND HIBISCUS AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE, THAT THAT BRIGHT LINE INSTALLED WERE SOME OF THOSE SIDEWALKS ENDED AND DIDN'T CONTINUE OVER THE TRACKS.
LIKE THEY STOPPED RIGHT AT THE RIGHT OF WAY AND STARTED UP AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
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RIGHT OF WAY.AND SO NOW THERE IS A, A SIDEWALK ACROSS WITH THE APPROPRIATE ARMS THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, TELL THE PEOPLE DON'T CONTINUE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK WHEN THE TRAIN IS COMING.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT FEC HAS SAID THAT IF WE DON'T SIGN THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS FOR ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, THEN WE HAVE THE, THEN THEY'RE JUST GOING TO RIP OUT THOSE NEW IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, BRIEFLY, DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE, UH, NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON WITH THE CLOSURE OF SOME OF THE CROSSINGS? RIGHT NOW? THEY HAVE NOT SAID THAT, BUT OKAY.
I DUNNO IF WE SHOULD READ INTO IT THAT THAT IS RELATED.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK IT OUT LOUD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JENNY? YOU ANY GUIDANCE OR IS IT JUST AWARENESS FOR US? AWARENESS FOR US AWARENESS.
I THINK THERE IS NO GUIDANCE RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK DEPENDING ON, DEPENDING ON HOW OUR EFFORTS WITH FDOT GO WILL LIKELY BE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU BECAUSE THEN THERE'LL BE MORE DIFFICULT DECISIONS ABOUT, UH, IS THE CITY WILLING TO HAVE THOSE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS REMOVED? OR THEN ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THOSE, YOU KNOW, STANDARD CROSSING AGREEMENTS WHERE, WHERE THE CITY'S TAKING ON MORE, UH, FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR THE, FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE CROSSINGS SO THAT IT, DEPENDING ON HOW OUR, OUR EFFORTS GO, WE'LL BE HAVING THAT SECOND DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE.
UM, KEVIN, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? THREE.
KENYATA WASHINGTON, FOLLOWED BY THE ORGANIZATION.
LET'S SEE, BY BRENT WILLENBERG.
WILL YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE? OH, NO, ONLY TWO.
KENYATTA S WASHINGTON, AND I'M THE SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MELBOURNE PALM BAY ALUMNI CHAPTER OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, INCORPORATED.
IN THE ABSENCE OF OUR PRESIDENT, MS. MARCIA BENTLEY AND OUR ENTIRE CHAPTER, WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF MELBOURNE FOR YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE INITIATIVES.
SINCE OUR CHAPTER WAS BEGAN IN APRIL OF 1989.
MOST RECENTLY, WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROSITY IN HONORING OUR BELOVED DELTA DEERS DURING A RECENT CELEBRATION ON MARCH 8TH, 2025.
THANK YOU COUNCILMAN SMITH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ATTEND OUR EVENT AND PRESENT A PROCLAMATION WHICH RECOGNIZED THE INVALUABLE LEGACY OF KNOWLEDGE, HISTORY, AND SERVICE, WHICH ARE EMBODIED BY THESE EXTRAORDINARY WOMEN.
DELTA DI IS THE FIRST AND ONLY OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED MEMBERSHIP CATEGORY BASED ON AGE HONORING MEMBERS OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, WHO ARE 62 YEARS OR OLDER.
THESE WOMEN PERSONIFY THE VALUES OF SPOUTED BY OUR RENOWNED AUTHOR AND HONORARY DELTA MEMBER NIKKI GIOVANNI, WHO FAMOUSLY STATED, WE PROVE THE HUMAN SPIRIT WILL PREVAIL.
WE WILL TAKE WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE WHAT WE NEED.
SO CITY OF MELBOURNE, THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING WITH US IN SERVICE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING COMMUNITY SERVICE HERE.
SIR, UH, WANT TO THANK YOU ALL.
THIS WAS MY, MY FIRST, UH, PROCLAMATION AND I APPRECIATE THE HONOR TO, AND ALSO THANK THE CITY AND I, AND I'LL JUST READ THE TAIL END OF THAT, UH, PROCLAMATION SAYS THAT, UH, THE MAYOR WHO'S NOT HERE, BUT IT SAYS NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I PAUL MAYOR PAUL FRI MAYOR CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THROUGH HEREBY PROCLAIM 2025 AS THE YEAR OF THE DELTA DEER.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS THAT YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT IS BRENT WILLENBERG, FOLLOWED BY RANDY BENNETT.
UM, I'M HERE IN RESPONSE TO YESTERDAY'S FLORIDA TODAY PAPER.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN THIS ISSUE'S RESOLVED.
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IT'S ABOUT SPENDING ON, SAY THEY'RE GETTING $20 BREAK ON THE TA ON THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT.AND IT WON'T COST 150 MILLION, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND IT SHOULDN'T COST ANYTHING.
UH, CALCIUM CARBON IS SAND IS $8 A TON AT BLUE GOOSE MOW MINES IN SOUTH BOULEVARD.
IF YOU PUT IT ON THE SHORE WHERE HENLEY, FLAGLER AND OTHER TOOK IT FROM AND BRING BACK THE CHEMISTRY IN THE LAGOON, THE ACID WON'T.
IT'S ABOUT TO HAVE RAINS AND ALL THE ACID FROM THE RUNOFF, WHICH USED TO BE SHELL.
ALL OUR ROOTS, USED TO BE SHELL.
BUT NOW ALL THE ACID, UH, THE CHEMISTRY DON'T TAKE PLACE ON THE SHORE.
IT TAKES PLACE ON THE SHORES OF OUR LAGOON.
THAT FOAM, YOU SEE, IS GONNA BE THE ACID LEAVING THE LAGOON ENDED UP ON THE BEACH.
AND IT'S AMAZING HOW IT CAN TURN A DUMP TRUCK LOAD OF SAND TO LIQUID.
UH, 'CAUSE YOU THINK OF SAND IS SOLID.
BUT IT'S A SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, I ALMOST FEEL LIKE OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN HIJACKED
AND IF YOU WERE IN MY SHOES, YOU'D SEE WHERE I'M COMING FROM AND LIKE, I LOOK FORWARD TO TODAY WHEN I, UH, JUST GET MY FISHING POLE AND GO FISHING ME AND A MILLION OTHERS.
UH, BUT IF YOU BRING THE CHEMISTRY BACK, OUR LAGOON IS CAPABLE OF FEEDING EVERYBODY.
IT IS JUST, UH, EVEN NOW YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE THE CHANGES I'M SEEING.
UH, ONE, ONE FISH CAN HAVE LIKE 200,000 BABIES.
ONE CRAB CAN HAVE EIGHT, 8 MILLION BABIES.
AND YOU CAN TREAT, CAN CREATE THE CONDITIONS WHERE THESE THINGS CAN SURVIVE AND JUST LIKE IT USED TO BE.
AND LIKE I SAY, UM, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO FISHING ALL DAY WHEN I WAS A KID.
AND IF IT WAS LIKE A SAFETY NET FOR PEOPLE, AND I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT COME BACK AND I'M SEEING IT COME BACK NOW.
ANOTHER THING IS LET TAXPAYERS VOTE ON HOW THAT MONEY'S SPENT.
IF 25% WANT A FISHING PIER, WELL LET 'EM GET 25% OF THE MONEY TO BUILD A FISHING PIER.
THEN YOU THEN, UM, GOVERNMENT WILL REFLECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
BUT ANYWAY, THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME.
WISH TO GO TO SOMEBODY'S OFFICE UP TOP.
UH, GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'M THE OWNER OF HURRICANE CREEK SALOON AT DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE.
UH, UH, BASICALLY WE'VE BEEN A POSITIVE, UH, INFLUENCE AND, UH, A POSITIVE LANDMARK FOR DOWNTOWN FOR GOING ON ALMOST EIGHT YEARS.
AND, UH, THE POLICE IN THE CITY CAN ATTEST TO THAT, THAT WE'VE NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM CHILD, BASICALLY.
UH, I AM HERE TONIGHT, UM, AND I'VE ALSO SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR VIA TEXT THAT HE'S IN FAVOR OF WHAT I'M ABOUT READY TO PROPOSE.
UH, BASICALLY I'M ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF THE SPECIAL ACTIVITIES PERMIT IN REGARDS TO A TEMPORARY STREET CLOSURE.
UH, THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR THAT IS BECAUSE I WAS CONTACTED, UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT A POSSIBILITY OF A NATIONAL SHOW COMING IN, DOING A SIX DAY FILMING AT OUR LOCATION.
UH, THAT HAS NOW JUST POPPED INTO OUR LAP AS OF LAST FRIDAY.
SO THIS IS A REAL DEAL, FOLKS, SO THAT THEY BASICALLY WILL COME IN FULL PRODUCTION, MASSIVE TRUCKS, EVERYTHING ELSE ALONG THAT LINE.
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE WAIVER OF THE, UH, STREET CLOSURE, BECAUSE NOW IT'S A 60 DAY PERMIT SITUATION.
THIS COULD BE A HUGE SHOT IN THE ARM FOR DOWNTOWN POSITIVE PUBLICITY IN A LOT OF WAYS, UH, FOR LONG TERM.
AND AS YOU KNOW, A RISING TIDE BRINGS UP ALL SHIPS DOWNTOWN, RETAIL RESTAURANT, EVERYONE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING RIGHT NOW TO HELP BRING SOMETHING TO DOWNTOWN.
UH, FROM THIS I CAN STATE AT THIS TIME, THE, UH, THE NAME OF THE SHOW IS BAR RESCUE, AND WE HAVE BEEN SELECTED TO BE ONE OF FOUR THAT HAS PICKED THROUGHOUT CENTRAL FLORIDA TO BE ON THIS SHOW.
UH, I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
THE HOST COMES IN, YELLS AT THE OWNER FOR A FEW MINUTES, YOU KNOW, TELLING HIM THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING, THINGS ALONG THAT LINE.
AND THEN THEY PROCEED TO INVEST
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ANYWHERE BETWEEN ABOUT 30 TO $50,000 INTO A BUSINESS.AS IN, YOU KNOW, DECORATIONS, REMODEL, TABLES, CHAIRS, SIGNAGE, WHATEVER IT IS FROM THERE, UH, BASICALLY THEN AS PART OF THE SHOW AT THE END, IT'S ALL HUGS AND KISSES.
THEY, YOU KNOW, SAY YOU'RE GONNA BE GREAT NOW AND THEN, UH, FROM THERE THEY DO THE BIG REVEAL TO THE STAFF ON THE FINAL NIGHT OF SHOOTING THE FINAL NIGHT, UH, IS PROPO.
WELL, THE, THE, THE HARD DATES IS GONNA BE RUNNING FROM THE 14TH OF APRIL UNTIL THE 18TH OF APRIL.
THE REVEAL OF THE NEW STUFF WOULD HAPPEN ON FRIDAY NIGHT, THE 18TH OF APRIL.
AND THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A STREET CLOSURE, UH, FROM 7:00 PM TILL ABOUT 10:00 PM GIVE OR TAKE ABOUT 30 MINUTES ON ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER, JUST SO THAT THEY CAN FILM AND, AND GO FROM THERE.
THE AREA THAT IS, UH, LOOKING AND BEING PROPOSED IS BASICALLY THEY WOULD NEED A COUPLE OFFICER, UH, VEHICLES, UH, RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF OUR BUILDING, UH, ON, UM, NEW HAVEN AND BASICALLY TO WHERE YOU WOULD REROUTE THE TRAFFIC.
IF IT WAS COMING DOWN INTO DOWNTOWN, YOU WOULD REROUTE IT.
IT WOULD GO DOWN VERNON, BACK TOWARDS MELBOURNE AVENUE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, MAY I HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME? UM, SO BASICALLY LOOKING AT THIS MAP, IF YOU ARE COMING FROM, UH, THE LEFT TO RIGHT, YOU WOULD COME DOWN NEW HAVEN, YOU WOULD TURN ONTO VERNON, GO DOWN BACK ONTO MELBOURNE AVENUE, AND IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
THEY WOULD REQUEST ALSO A, UH, A COUPLE OFFICERS, UH, VEHICLES, UH, WHATEVER ELSE YOU NEED AS IN, UH, STREET REDIRECTION, SIGNS, WHATEVER, UH, TO BE PLACED IN FRONT OF WHERE THE OLD DOVE USED TO BE, WHICH IS GONNA BE, I THINK FA 1 92 NOW.
UM, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW NO, UH, TRAFFIC UP THAT WAY FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION.
IT WOULD REDIRECT EVERYBODY COMING AND GOING ONTO MUNICIPAL, BACK ONTO NEW HAVEN.
SO FOR THAT PERIOD OF ABOUT THREE-ISH HOURS, UH, THE ONLY AREA THAT WOULD BE IN, UH, BASICALLY EFFECT IT WOULD BE THE PLACE RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR BUILDING.
SO, AND IT WOULD BE AFTER HOURS, SO IT WOULDN'T AFFECT RETAIL.
AND BASICALLY, UH, IF WE DO NOT GET THIS WAIVER, WE DO NOT GET THE SHOW BECAUSE OF THE FACT THEY NEED THIS AS PART OF THE SHOW.
AND, UH, WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO, UH, JUMP THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS, GET ALL THE INSURANCES, GET EVERYTHING ELSE ALONG THAT LINE.
UM, WE'VE, UH, GOT OUR LANDLORDS AND EVERYBODY TO SIGN OFF ON THIS.
IT'S BEEN A BIG, BIG THING COMING TO JUMP THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS.
AND BASICALLY, UH, THIS CAN BRING POSITIVE PUBLICITY AND, UH, A FACELIFT TO ONE OF MANY PLACES THAT CAN BE DOWNTOWN FROM THAT.
SO, UH, I'LL ADD ON SOME MORE FROM THERE, BUT I'M SURE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
DID, DID YOU, UH, SUBMIT ANY FORM TO OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE OR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BEFORE? BRINGS US AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WE KNOW THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
LIKE, I GET THE VERBAL SENSE OF THIS, BUT STILL WE USUALLY REQUIRE SOME SORT OF PAPERWORK SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, PREPARE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR PUBLIC WORKS, EVERYTHING GOING ON THERE.
SO HAVE YOU SUBMITTED ANYTHING BEFORE COMING TO US TODAY? WELL, NO.
UH, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING OFFICIAL AND NOTHING KNOWN.
AND I WERE, I WAS NOT PRIVILEGED TO SOME OF THESE DETAILS UNTIL LAST FRIDAY, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST PART OF THE NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS BECAUSE THEY COME IN, THEY FILM, AND THEN THE EPISODE DOESN'T AIR FOR A FEW MONTHS.
SO THERE ARE MIN MULTIPLE NON-DISCLOSURES THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY OR DO UNTIL IT'S OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED.
SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THEIR PRODUCTION COMPANY DID CONTACT KEVIN'S OFFICE, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, SPOKE TO SALLY AND THAT'S WHEN SHE BASICALLY INFORMED THEM THAT THE ORDINANCE HAD CHANGED FROM 30 DAYS, WHICH THEY WERE AWARE OF LAST FALL, BUT THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF THE CHANGES THAT HAD HAPPENED, UH, TO NOW MAKING IT A 60 DAY DEAL, OR IT WOULD'VE BEEN WITHIN THE TIMELINE OF THAT.
SO ONCE THEY WERE INFORMED THAT IT WAS NO LONGER 30 DAYS, THEN THEY CAME TO ME AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
YOU GUYS KNOW, UH, LIKE FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE AND SOME OF OUR OTHER EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU'VE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE A QUALITY, YOU KNOW, REPUTABLE ORGANIZATION.
SO I'M HERE TONIGHT, UH, ASKING A FAVOR OF THE COUNCIL TO, UH, GRANT THIS.
UH, THEY WILL PAY FOR ALL FEES, ALL STREET REDIRECTION, SIGNS, PERMIT FEES.
UH, IT'S NOTHING THAT I HAVE NOT ALREADY WORKED WITH THE OFFICERS, UH, YOU KNOW, DANNY AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE PAST THROUGH THIS.
UH, IT'S WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF A SIMILAR DEAL THAT WE DO FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE MM-HMM
SO IT WOULDN'T REALLY TAKE MUCH TWEAKAGE OF THAT.
SO PRETTY MUCH, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING THAT WOULDN'T, UH, BE ABLE TO BE DONE WITHIN THESE NEXT LIKE 28 DAYS.
WELL, A MAJOR THING I'M LOOKING AT IS LIKE THE RENTAL OF THE LOT.
BUT IF I COULD ASK JENNY AND ADAM, IF THERE'S ANY, UM, YOU, YOUR GUYS' BACKGROUNDS AND THOUGHT ON THIS.
'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S KIND OF QUICK COMING AT US HERE.
WELL, CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? UH, THE, THE RENTAL OF THE LOT SITUATION BACK THERE, I KNOW THAT IS A PUBLIC LOT AND THAT CANNOT BE RENTED PER SE.
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THEY, WHEN THEY CAME IN WITH THEIR CREW OF NINE HERE TWO WEEKS AGO, AND I'VE GOT A GUY FLYING IN THAT WILL BE THERE TOMORROW NIGHT FOR A LITTLE WHILE WITH THINGS, UH, TAKING A LOOK AT STUFF, UH, THEY ARE AWARE THAT THAT LOT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR RENT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC LOT.AND THAT CAME STRAIGHT FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE IN REGARDS TO THAT.
SO I AM, UH, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH ROB ACROSS THE STREET AT A BI, HE USUALLY LETS US USE THAT FOR TOUR BUSES AND THINGS ON NEW YEAR'S EVE.
SO, UH, WE'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THIS WAIVER, THEN HE'S ALL FOUR ALLOWING US THERE.
UH, AND I KNOW WE COULD GET A FEW PARKING SPOTS OUT THERE JUST BY PLACING A FEW CONES, UH, FOR THEIR, UH, TRAVEL VEHICLES THAT THEY WILL HAVE.
SO IT REALLY, ONCE AGAIN, WOULD NOT BE THE RENTAL OF A LOT, UNLESS IF YOU GUYS HAVE A WAY TO RENT THAT TO US, WHICH I DON'T THINK YOU'D DO AT THIS TIME.
SO BASICALLY AS A WHOLE, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT ANY NORMAL USAGES OF DOWNTOWN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, UH, FOUR PARKING SPOTS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF OUR DOORWAY ON VERNON.
AND THAT'S JUST SO THEY CAN CARRY STUFF IN AND OUT ALONG THAT LINE.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, UNTIL THAT FRIDAY NIGHT, UH, GIVE OR TAKE AROUND 6 30, 7 O'CLOCK, WHEN BLOCK IT, THEY BRING THEIR CAMERAS, BOOM, LIGHTS EVERYTHING UP REAL QUICK, DO THE REVEAL WITHIN A COUPLE OF HOURS, TEAR IT RIGHT BACK DOWN, AND THEY'RE OUT.
THAT'S THE ONLY BLOCKAGE, THE ONLY INTERRUPTION OF ANYTHING TO CITY SERVICES, CITY FEES, OR CITY STREETS, CITY PARKING, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GONNA ROLL.
JUST LIKE A NORMAL BUSINESS DAY WOULD.
JENNY OR ADAM, WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANTED TO, I THINK WE BOTH WANNA SPEAK, BUT I, MINE'S VERY BRIEF.
IT WOULD BE IF COUNCIL WANTED TO WAIVE THE, THE 60 DAYS, WE WOULD THEN ADHERE TO OUR NORMAL PERMITTING PROCESS AND YOU GET WITH THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS MM-HMM
AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS SET UP PROPERLY.
AND THEN I'LL DEFER TO ADAM HERE AND KEVIN MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS TOO.
WELL, MY, I MEAN MY MINE'S A LITTLE BIT HARSHER, RIGHT? I'LL BE, I'LL BE THE BAD GUY.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, MUCH, MUCH LIKE WITH RENAISSANCE FAIR, RIGHT? THERE WAS A, HEY, THERE'S A TIME CRUNCH, THERE'S A STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL, THERE'S THIS, THERE'S THAT.
BUT CITY CODE DOESN'T ANTICIPATE A WAIVER, RIGHT? AND I, I DON'T RECOMMEND JUST OUTRIGHT SAYING, UH, FORGET, FORGET THE, THE CODE REGULATIONS, RIGHT? I'M, I'M SURE CITY STAFF WILL, WILL TAKE DIRECTION.
I JUST CONCEPTUALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF, OF A THING WHERE PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY, PLEASE WAIVE ALL OF THE UNDERLYING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN CODE AS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYONE.
I UNDERSTAND THEIR EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES HERE.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK TO JENNY'S POINT, RIGHT? IF IT'S SIMPLY A WAIVER ON THE UNDERLYING APPLICATION DEADLINE, I DON'T THINK IT'S A, IT'S A, UM, WAIVER OF ALL OF THE PROCEDURES TO HAVE A SITE PLAN, HAVE A HAVE A, THIS, HAVE A, THAT SHOW, SHOW THE INSURANCE SHOW, EVERYTHING ELSE NECESSARY FOR ROAD CLOSURE AND, YOU KNOW, POLICE PRESENCE, SO ON AND, AND SO FORTH.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY MY PIECE ON IT.
AND NO, AND I, AND I AGREE DEFINITELY TIMELINE ONLY.
I STILL WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S A SAFE AND PERMITTED AND, YOU KNOW, GOOD EVENT THERE.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING, KEVIN? I KNOW THAT YOU WERE MENTIONED, THANK YOU.
I THINK I'LL JUST MENTION THAT ALTHOUGH IT'S, YOU KNOW, 24 DAYS AWAY, IT'S ABOUT 13 BUSINESS DAYS FOR MR. BENNETT OR WHOEVER IS APPLYING FOR THE EVENT TO COME IN AND SUPPLY THE, UM, INSURANCE, THE ENDORSEMENT, THE DEPOSIT, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE RE NORMALLY REQUIRED.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT KNOWN THAT THAT DEADLINE FOR TURNING ALL THOSE IN AS FIVE BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE EVENT.
SO WE'RE ALREADY SHORTENED UP ALREADY, BUT SIMILAR TO, UM, YOUR ACTION ON THE STRAWBERRY FEST OR RENAISSANCE FAIR, WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY, IF, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION, WE'LL GET IT DONE.
UM, ENGINEERING'S QUITE BUSY WITH THINGS.
THEY'LL HAVE TO CREATE SOME MAPS.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE TO, UH, POST OFFICERS, UH, TO SIGN UP.
SO, UH, WE'LL CERTAINLY DO OUR BEST TO, TO GET IT DONE IF THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION.
BUT JUST WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THE DEADLINE IS A LITTLE SHORTER THAN IT ACTUALLY SEEMS. GOT IT, SIR.
OH, LET'S HAVE THE CHIEF UP HERE.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR THE CHIEF.
HE COULD DO THE, THE CHIEF UP HERE TO SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE POLICE CHIEF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GO.
AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE DEADLINES AND DIFFERENT THINGS ALONG THAT LINE, AND WE ARE NOT LIKE A STRAWBERRY FEST OR WHATEVER THAT TAKES, YOU KNOW, A YEAR TO MARKET, PROMOTE AND DO DIFFERENT THINGS.
THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAT FLOWS A LITTLE MORE FLUID THAN THAT.
UH, CHIEF, YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? YES.
UH, DAVE GILLESPIE, CHIEF OF POLICE, CITY OF MELBOURNE.
UM, I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION OR JUST, WHAT ARE MY THOUGHTS? WOULD YOU HAVE IN THE TIMELINE? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO, GET EVERYTHING UP AND RUNNING? WE WOULD ON YOUR END OF, ON YOUR, ON YOUR END OF THE, SO WE WOULD FOLLOW OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE.
I THINK LIKE, UM, JENNY HAD SAID, UM, WE WOULD, IF, IF THERE WAS A WAIVER, WE WOULD THEN BE DIRECTED TO FOLLOW OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE.
WE WOULD POST IT AND THEN SEE IF WE GET OFFICERS.
OBVIOUSLY THE MORE TIME WE HAVE TO POST, THE MORE LIKELIHOOD THAT IT GETS FILLED.
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DIFFERENT DETAILS.I THINK YOU SAID THIS WAS A FRIDAY AND YOU ALREADY HAVE DETAILS DOWNTOWN ANYWAY, ON MOST FRIDAYS.
SO FRIDAY, A LITTLE LESS THAN WE DO ON SATURDAY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET IT FILLED LIKE WE DO WITH THE OTHER DETAILS MM-HMM
AND, UM, AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
ANYTHING ELSE MS. HANDLING FOR THE CHIEF? NOPE.
HOW ARE YOU? UM, CAN YOU GET ALL THOSE THINGS, THE INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING THAT KEVIN WAS ALLUDING TO AND THAT I CAN GET YOU? ANYTHING YOU NEED AND WHATEVER THEY'RE READY.
I JUST WAS SPEAKING ON THE, ON THE PHONE WITH THE GENTLEMAN EARLIER MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT USED TO A 60 DAY SITUATION.
MOST OTHER CITIES HAVE DEALT WITH AND OTHER THINGS.
IT'S USUALLY A 30 AND THAT'S WHEN IT WAS KIND OF APPROACHED.
AND SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN WITHIN THAT NORMAL THING.
IT, THE 60 DAY I WAS NOT AWARE OF.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE WERE PICKED UNTIL FRIDAY.
SO SOME OF THIS HAS BEEN A WHIRLWIND WITHIN THE LAST FOUR DAYS, UH, AMONGST THAT AS WELL.
SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF TIMELINE.
I I'M NOT ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF FEES.
UH, THEY, THEY HAVE DEEP POCKETS ARE A NATIONAL SHOW.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS 11 YEARS AND SO, AND THEY'RE ON THE PARAMOUNT NETWORK AND IT'S A LEGIT DEAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY IF YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A 20% STIPEND ON TOP OF IT FOR THE CITY JUST BECAUSE OF WHATEVER IT IS.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
'CAUSE I THINK AS A WHOLE, IT'S A POSITIVE FOR US.
AND HONESTLY IT COULD BE A POSITIVE HELPING KEEP ME IN BUSINESS FOR DOWNTOWN.
'CAUSE I JUST WOULD HATE TO GO AHEAD AND GRANT YOU THAT TIMELINE AND THEN THE PAPERWORK DOESN'T COME IN IN TIME, THEN YOU CAN'T HAVE THE SHOW ANYWAY.
WELL, AND IF, IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN THAT'S ON THE FAULT OF THEM.
AND ON THE FAULT OF ME, THAT'S NOT ON THE FAULT OF CITY COUNCIL.
AS SOON AS I WALK OUTTA HERE, I CALL CALIFORNIA AND BASICALLY LET THEM KNOW AND START TOMORROW WITH THE PROJECT OF WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE I'M AT.
I MEAN, I'M GONNA GIVE IT THE COLLEGE TRY BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS NEW AND FRESH, YOU KNOW, FOR DOWNTOWN AND WE NEED PROMOTION.
AND EVEN SOMETIMES A GUY YELLING AT SOMEBODY ON TV FOR A LITTLE BIT CAN BE POSITIVE IF IT'S SPUN.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO.
BUT HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO BRING IN AND PUT INTO OUR BUSINESS AND DO NATIONAL EXPOSURE TO, YOU KNOW, OUR BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE? SURE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTION, RANDY? SO IN, SO IN GENERAL, SIR, MS. LUSO, YOU TAKE A VOTE? YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR ME.
I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT ROLE I PLAYED TODAY.
THAT'S ALL IMPORTANT ROLE, RANDY.
UM, THE MS. KENNEDY'S, UH, QUESTION IF THE, UH, UH, THE PAPERWORK AND THE FEES DON'T COME IN IN TIME UNTIL AFTERWARDS, YOU SET US ON THEM.
YOU SAID IT'S ON, YOU SAID IT'S ON THEM.
UM, THAT, THAT YOU DIDN'T TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE FEES.
AND THE PERMITTED THINGS, EVEN IF I GOTTA TO GO AND PULL IT OUTTA MY POCKET, WE'RE GONNA FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK BECAUSE BOTTOM LINE, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, QUIETLY WE'VE BEEN BEING INTERVIEWED AND PEOPLE STOPPING BY AND MEASURING AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER, SINCE DECEMBER, WE HAD NO CLUE BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND WE KNEW THAT WE GOT DOWN TO THE TOP EIGHT.
WE KNEW WE WERE HANGING IN THERE AND IT WAS THAT.
AND BASICALLY, LIKE I SAID, I GOT THE CALL LAST FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF, SO YOU'RE ONE IN FOUR, RIGHT? EXCUSE ME? YOU'RE ONE IN FOUR FROM WHAT YOU TOLD US.
WE ARE ONE OF THE FOUR THAT WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN DAYTONA, ORLANDO, AND LIKE FORT PIERCE.
SO THEN WHEN I SENT, SO, SO WE'RE THE ONLY ONE IN MELBOURNE, SO I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
SO YOU'RE ONE IN FOUR BETWEEN HERE AND DAYTONA, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
UM, I REMEMBER THAT, UH, UH, THEY DID ONE IN, IN, UM, UH, MERRITT ISLAND, A COUPLE OF, YEAH.
WE WERE MY OTHER BAR THAT I HAD, WE WERE A BACKUP BAR FOR THAT 11 YEARS AGO.
AND THEY ENDED UP AT COASTER'S TAP HOUSE, BY THE WAY, THEY, ANYWAY, EXCUSE ME.
UH, ALL THE STAFF WENT TO KO'S TAP HOUSE AFTERWARDS.
SO, BUT NONETHELESS THOUGH, UM, WAIVERS JUST, YOU KNOW, UPSET THE APPLE CART COURT.
YOU KNOW, THAT, I MEAN, WE, WE'VE WORKED FOR A YEAR TO, UH, SUPPORT KEVIN AND, UH, HIS TEAM ON NOT DOING THIS.
AND, BUT I ALSO GET THAT IT'S A NATIONAL SHOW AND THIS IS DYNAMIC, BUT WE'RE IN A CONUNDRUM.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I I TORN BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, SO, UH, THE, UH, COPS AND SUPPORT STAFF, UH, AS, UH, THE CHIEF HAD INDICATED THAT, UH, YOU SAID THERE'S A DETAIL DOWN THERE ON FRIDAY, ON FRIDAY NIGHT.
CHIEF SAID, NOT AS HEAVY AS IT IS SATURDAY.
SO THAT MEANS WE'LL HAVE TO REARRANGE.
AND THEN I DON'T THINK THE CHIEF HAD INDICATED
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WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS ABLE TO MANUFACTURE THAT, UH, THAT BACKUP FOR THAT EVENING.UM, SO THAT'S WHERE ONE THING I HAVE A CONCERN OF.
UM, I HAVE A CONCERN FOR, UM, UH, THE THREE HOURS TO SHUT DOWN.
UM, SO THE THREE HOURS HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH EVERYBODY ELSE'S GONNA BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AFFECTED BY THAT BETWEEN MUNICIPAL AND, AND, UH, VER AND, UH, VERNON, I, I MEAN ALL, ALL THE BUSINESSES ALONG THERE IS EVERYBODY WRITTEN OFF ON IT AS WELL TOO TO SHUT THAT BECAUSE, UH, FRIDAY NIGHT BETWEEN SEVEN AND 10 IS A PRETTY POPULAR NIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WALKING ACTIVITY AND THAT BIG, IT IS NOT REALLY RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
AND THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE, UH, IN THAT AREA, THE ONLY, UH, EFFECTIVE PERSON WOULD BE, UH, UH, EXECUTIVE CIGAR.
AND, UH, BASICALLY THEN OF COURSE EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE AT FIESTA.
UH, BUT THERE'S NOBODY THERE ANYWAY.
THAT WAS SO, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE WITHIN THAT ZONE THAT HAS AN OPEN BUSINESS AFTER A FIVE O'CLOCK TIME.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS AN E SHOULD BE AN EASY NO BRAINER.
IT'D BE THE SAME IF IF SOMEBODY BACKED OUT AND BACKED INTO EACH OTHER AND YOU NEEDED A COUPLE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEBODY FOR AN ACCIDENT.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF, IT, IT'S NOT A LOT OF LOGISTICS.
I KNOW BEHIND THE SCENES PAPERWORK, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.
AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU EARLIER.
UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF WHO I AM AND WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO AND, AND WHAT I'VE ASKED FOR FROM THE CITY BEFORE HAS BEEN USUALLY PRETTY REASONABLE.
AND I'VE FOLLOWED THROUGH TO THE LETTER OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ASKED.
AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR NOW IS BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THROW ME A SOLID, I MEAN, AND, AND THAT'S, I'M ASKING FOR A FAVOR.
AND, UM, SO DID HAVE WE, KEVIN, HAVE WE, HAVE WE MOVED PAST THE WAIVER PORTION FOR RANDY ON THE NEW YEAR'S EVE? IS IT NOW A GIVEN OR DOES HE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR A WAIVER EVERY NEW YEAR'S EVE, MR. BENNETT TO GO TO THE ONE O'CLOCK? TO GO TO THE ONE O'CLOCK? YEAH.
MR. BENNETT'S REQUEST FOR THAT IS ANNUAL BECAUSE, UM, IT'S RELATED TO THE SOUND.
IT'S RELATED TO WHEN THE HARD STOP FOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC HAS TO END.
UM, SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT AUTOMATICALLY GRANTS THAT HE, HE WOULD COME.
THAT'S WHY HE'S ADVISED EVERY YEAR TO COME AND ASK FOR.
SO, SO THE WAIVER IS NOT, IT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE IT GOES OUT OF PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE WORKED ON.
UM, BUT I'M ENTHUSED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS I'M IN AS WELL AS YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE SAME INDUSTRY.
SO, UM, THE, UH, UH, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT, THAT ARE SURROUNDED NOW, WILL THEY BE DRAWN INTO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT, UH, UH, BAR RESCUE OFFERS AS WELL? CIGAR? WILL THEY BE, UH, NOTICED? WILL, WILL MAM MALLEY'S BE NOTICED? I MEAN, JUST AS A SIDELINE OR SOMETHING, OR WILL IT JUST BE HURRICANE CREEK? I, I AM NOT THE PRODUCTION ELEMENT OF THE SHOW AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING DISCLOSED TO ME.
NOW I DO KNOW THAT, UH, PART OF AN EMAIL THAT I HAD TO PUT TOGETHER TONIGHT, UH, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR OFFICE SPACE DOWNTOWN FOR A WEEK.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING SOMEBODY FOR ONE OF OUR 16 EMPTY BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY FOR A WEEK DOWN THERE.
UH, THEY'RE WILLING TO THROW ROB AT A BI, UH, MONEY FOR HIS PARKING LOT FOR A WEEK.
UH, THEY WILL ALSO BE ON TWO DIFFERENT NIGHTS, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SHOW, THEY DO A, UH, UM, KIND OF LIKE A STRESS TEST WHERE THEY PURPOSELY SET US UP TO FAIL ON A NIGHT.
SO HE CAN COME IN AND YELL AT US AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE NOT WORKING FAST ENOUGH.
AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THE SHOW.
SO THEY'LL FLOOD THE AREA WITH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT WILL COME INTO OUR BAR, WHICH HOPEFULLY ON THAT NIGHT WE'LL SUPPORT OTHER PEOPLE AND EAT AND DRINK AND WHATEVER.
AND THEN ALSO THE, WHEN WE DO THE REVEAL AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IN, IF YOU'VE SEEN THE SHOW, THEY'LL FLOOD THE AREA AGAIN WITH PEOPLE ON THAT GIVEN NIGHT.
WHEN WILL, YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE SELECTED OR NOT? WE'RE ALREADY SELECTED.
WE'RE NO, I MEAN YOU SAID THIS ONE ON FOUR.
THEY ARE, THEY ARE FILMING FOUR DIFFERENT, UH, LOCATIONS.
WE ARE ONE OF THE MISUNDERSTOOD.
I THOUGHT IT WAS, THEY STARTED WITH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE STILL IN THE CHOICE PROCESS.
DID EVERYBODY ELSE THINK THAT TOO? YEAH.
I, SO BASICALLY WE WERE THERE.
BUT THEY, UH, THEY SELECTED FOUR LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT CENTRAL FLORIDA.
I DO KNOW A COUPLE OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WERE NOT PICKED.
THEY'LL COME TELL US FOR WAIVERS TOO, TOO.
I'M, WE ARE THE ONLY ONE WITHIN THIS CITY LIMITS.
YOU'VE ANSWERED EVERYTHING THAT I'VE, MY CONCERNS AND COUNCILWOMAN HANLEY, HOW MANY PEOPLE? YES, MS. HANLEY, I'M DONE.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL THEY BE BRINGING IN AS IN, FOR WHICH ELEMENT AND THE WHOLE THING? UM, I DO NOT HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER OF THAT.
I KNOW THEY WILL BE BRINGING IN, UH, PROBABLY THREE TO FOUR LARGER SIZE TRUCKS WITH THEIR CREWS AND WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, REMODEL FLIP
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INSIDE OF, USUALLY IT'S CHAIRS, TABLES, PAINTING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE EVER WATCHED A SHOW, THEY DON'T GO INTO MAJOR STUFF, UH, FROM THERE.AND SO, UM, THEY'LL BE BRINGING IN THAT WHICH THEY CAN PARK OVER AT ROB'S OR IF WE CAN GET ONE PARKING SPOT OUT BACK, LIKE HE'S SAYING.
UM, I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE THAT WORKED ON BLOODLINE OKAY.
SO WHEN THEY CAME IN, THEY PLUNKED MONEY INTO HOMESTEAD FLORIDA CITY.
THEY BROUGHT IN A LARGE SUM OF MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SHORT TIME, THEY'LL BE STAYING IN HOTELS HERE.
THEIR CREW WILL BE STAYING IN HOTELS.
THEY WILL BE EATING, UH, DOWNTOWN.
SO THEY'LL BE COMING AND GOING.
SOME OF THAT I'M NOT PRIVILEGED OF, BUT I AM TO SUPPLY VARIOUS INFORMATION, UH, INCLUDING THEY WILL USE ONE LOCAL BAR DOWNTOWN TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF THAT.
TO WHERE, UH, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THE SHOW WHERE THEY TAKE YOU OUT AND TRAIN A STAFF, YOU KNOW, AT ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE THEY SHOW DRINKS AND WHATEVER IT IS FOR A FEW HOURS.
SO THEY WILL PAY ANOTHER BAR THAT WILL BE PROBABLY A FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR.
I'VE ALREADY RECOMMENDED TWO OF THEM.
UM, AND THEN THEY'LL CALL AND NEGOTIATE THAT DEAL WITH THEM TO BE ABLE TO JUST GO IN FILM, DO THE DEAL RIGHT BACK OUT.
IT'S A QUICK, IT'S A QUICK FLIP FOR WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS BRINGING MONEY IN.
IF, IF YOU'RE ANYTHING LIKE THE BLOODLINE THAT FROM NETFLIX AND ALL THAT WAS DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA, 'CAUSE I HAPPENED TO BE GOING, I HAPPENED TO BE THERE AND THEY BROUGHT MONEY TO THAT AREA.
THEY REALLY, TO THE UPPER KEYS.
LOWER MIAMI, LOWER MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WE DO THIS BECAUSE THEY DID BRING A LOT OF, AND THEY BROUGHT A LOT OF TOURIST DOLLARS THAT PEOPLE WENT BACK AND WANTED TO SEE WHAT IT WAS.
AND WE CAN MARKET THAT AFTER THE FACT.
WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS AND HOPEFULLY THE NOVELTY OF IT, WE WILL RUN IT AS FAR INTO THE GROUND THAT WE CAN RUN IT BASICALLY FROM THERE.
I'M KIND OF FOR WELL, I KNOWS I DON'T LIKE THE TURNAROUND TIME.
I WISH YOU WOULD GIVE US MORE TIME.
BUT, UM, I'M, I WOULD'VE LIKE THAT TOO.
I AM, I'M LOOKING AT IT, HAVING TO SEEN A PRODUCTION COMPANY.
UM, SOME, SOME OF US KNOW WHO WE WAS THAT WORKED ON THESE PRODUCTION COMPANIES IN DIFFERENT FILM CREWS AND WHEN THEY CAME IN THEY JUST FLOODED.
THEY JUST, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A FLOOD OF MONEY.
I, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW LARGE, I MEAN THAT'S, SOME OF THOSE DETAILS ARE JUST NOW STARTING TO COME TO ME AND THIS WAS THE BIGGEST THING.
SO I A NICE, I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME AND I'M SORRY FOR TAKING UP, PUT TONIGHT'S, WHEN IS, I WANNA, I, I I SHOULD KNOW THIS.
WHEN IS EASTER? DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHEN EASTER.
SO THEY'LL BE OUT HERE ON, THERE'LL BE THE REVEAL IS ON THE FRIDAY NIGHT.
THEY'LL BE LOADING OUT SATURDAY MORNING, THEY'LL BE OUT.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT, WELL, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THAT WEEKEND THAT THAT'S WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN FURTHER WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
WELL, IT'S NEVER, EASTER WEEKEND FOR US HAS NEVER BEEN WEEKEND DOWNTOWN.
I MEAN, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S PEOPLE WHO ARE FAITH BASED AND PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING FAMILY THINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS ALONG THAT LINE THAT IT'S NEVER A, A HIGH WEEKEND AS WHAT YOU WOULD THINK.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE 4TH OF JULY, WE LOSE MONEY ON 4TH OF JULY, TRUTHFULLY.
AND WE WOULD THINK THAT, BUT IT ENDS UP BEING MORE OF A FAMILY TYPE OF SITUATION AND NOT, OKAY.
SO, ALRIGHT, UH, COUNCILMAN LEWIS STONE, AND LET'S WRAP THIS UP.
I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
I DON'T WANT TO ELONGATE THIS FOR YOU, RANDY, OR, OR FOR US.
UM, OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS RECOMMENDED AGAINST IT.
WHERE DO WE GO? I MEAN, WE HAVE LEGAL EXPERTISE HERE SAYING, NO, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M AT A CROSSROADS TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
BUT, AND, BUT THE, THE, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS GONNA BE A COMPASSIONATE, UM, UH, DECISION.
I'D APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, AS A COUNCIL, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE WHAT THE SECOND ONE THAT WE'VE MADE AN EXCEPTION ON SINCE WE'VE MADE THAT NEW POLICY.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, WE MAY WANT TO COME UP WITH A CONSENSUS THERE, A IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF WAIVER THAT WE PUT INTO CODE, BUT THAT BECOMES ITS OWN BALL OF WAX.
BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO RECONSIDER HOW MUCH WE'RE DOING THIS.
UM, PERSONALLY, JUST LIKE, UH, YOU SAID COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR.
I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HELP OUT DOWNTOWN RANDY APPRECI AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT APPRECIATE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
BUT YOU HAVE TO, IF THIS DOES PASS, I'M ASKING YOU TO MAKE A COMMITMENT THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DILIGENT WITH OUR STAFF, MAKE SURE THEY GET EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN, ASAP BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A REALLY TIGHT DEADLINE FOR OUR PEOPLE.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL FOR YOU AS WELL AS SUCCESSFUL FOR THE CITY.
AND IT, IT'S A TWO WAY STREET THERE.
WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO NETWORKING, UH, OTHER THINGS WITH THIS, UH, AS A SPINOFF, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THINGS ON THE HOPE THAT WE WERE SELECTED.
UH, MEANING I'VE BEEN GETTING UP AT FOUR O'CLOCK EVERY WEEKDAY MORNING IN A STUDIO BY SIX OR BY FIVE TO DO A SIX TO 10 ON A BRAND NEW RETRO COUNTRY RADIO STATION ON 1 0 5 5.
SO I'VE BEEN DOING MORNING DRIVE FOR THE LAST SIX WEEKS
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ON A NETWORK HOPING THAT THIS WOULD COME OUR WAY.PLUS THROUGH THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A, UH, UH, AN ADDITIONAL LIVE MIX, UH, SYNDICATED DANCE SHOW OUT OF THERE AS WELL AS IN A MIX SHOW.
AND THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE ON A COUNTRY LEVEL BEFORE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN PLAY THAT WERE HINGED WHETHER OR NOT WE GOT SELECTED.
AND NOW THAT IT IS, SOME OF THAT CAN HOPEFULLY FOLLOW THROUGH AS WELL.
VICE, WELL, I'M WILLING TO MAKE A, UH, I'M WILLING TO LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ENTERTAIN A 60 DAY, THE WAIVER OF THE 60 DAY REQUIREMENT SPECIFICALLY.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? YEAH, I, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
WE'RE WE, HE'S ASKING FOR A FAVOR.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING FAVORS, BUT NO, AND I I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I KNOW, BUT, AND WE'RE ALSO, WE'RE EVEN WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS SAYING, WE'RE ONLY, WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, EXCEPT TO THE TIMELINE.
BUT I AGREE THAT ALL THE OTHER THINGS STILL NEED TO BE MET AND THEY NEED TO BE MET, JUST LIKE YOU STATED IN A TIMELY FASHION.
BUT I, I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.
'CAUSE I SEE IT'S FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY, FOR THE GOOD OF THE DOWNTOWN.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME GOODWILL THAT WILL COME FROM THE EFFORTS THAT RANDY HAS PUT IN.
SO, MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SMITH.
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
AND, AND ALSO THEY WILL BE PROBABLY WARNING YOU GUYS OUT THERE ON THAT NIGHT AS A REVEAL.
I KNOW THAT, THAT ANYONE WANTS I GO TO SHOW O'CLOCK.
EXCEPT ON TUESDAYS WE HAVE TO WEAR BOOTS.
WELL, THANK YOU GUYS AND I YOU'RE READY.
SPEAKING OF NEW YEAR'S EVE, I, I WILL RECOMMEND MUCH, MUCH LIKE THERE WAS A REQUEST AND SOME DIRECTION TO REVISE, UH, OPERATING HOURS FOR BARS, BARS AND RESTAURANTS ON NEW YEAR'S EVE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND WE JUST DO A CODE CHANGE FOR THE NOISE, UH, ELEMENT FOR SPECIAL ACTIVITIES FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE AS WELL.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO THAT MOTION CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO DO THESE WAIVERS OF, OF CODE.
DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS? I WILL, I WILL BRING THAT, I'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU BEFORE IT BECOMES RELEVANT FOR, FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE.
MOVING ON TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS ITEM EIGHT, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 13 AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 14 AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 15 AT 2075 NORTH HIGHWAY A ONE A.
THIS IS A SECOND READING AND A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENTATION BY CINDY DIMMER.
AND I'LL, I'LL READ THE, UH, THE ORDINANCES, UH, VICE MAYOR.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF 0.65 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF STATE ROAD.
A ONE A APPROXIMATELY 165 FEET SOUTH OF BEACH STREET, 2075 NORTH HIGHWAY.
A ONE A PROVIDING FOR THE EXTENSION OF CORPORATE LIMITS AND BOUNDARIES THEREOF.
PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 25 14 AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING APPENDIX D CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY ESTABLISHING A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP CLASSIFICATION ON 0.65 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF STATE ROAD.
A ONE A APPROXIMATELY 165 FEET SOUTH OF BEACH STREET, 2075 NORTH HIGHWAY A ONE A PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 15.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY ESTABLISHING R ONE A SINGLE FAMILY, LOW RES, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON 0.65 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF STATE ROAD.
A ONE A APPROXIMATELY 165 FEET SOUTH OF BEE STREET, 2075 NORTH HIGHWAY A ONE A, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
ALRIGHT, PRESENTING IS CINDY DIMER? CINDY? UH, YES.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON SECOND READING THIS EVENING.
DO WE HAVE ANY, WE HAVE NO CARDS.
THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES? NO, I DON'T HAVE A DISCLOSURE.
OH, WELL, JUAN, WE HAVE A DISCLOSURE REAL QUICK.
OH, DID YOU SAY NO? YEAH, I HAVE DISCLOSURE.
DO YOU HAVE DISCLOSURE? NO, I DON'T HAVE DISCLOSURE.
THAT'S WHAT HE ASKED FOR, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCLOSURES.
I'VE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A TELEPHONE MEETING AND I'VE ATTACHED THE EMAIL TO THAT, UH, UH, THE EXACT CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH.
ON MARCH 18TH, I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT'S WHERE THEY EXPLAINED THE REASONING BEHIND THEIR REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
THE APPLICANT'S EXPLAINED THEIR PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL REASONING FOR THIS ACTION.
THERE WAS NO PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT INFLUENCE HOW I WILL VOTE FOR THIS SE FOR THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.
AND I SUBMIT THIS TO THE CITY CLERK FOR DISCLOSURE.
ASKING AGAIN ANY OTHER DISCLOSURES? SEEING NONE, COUNCILWOMAN HANLEY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE CINDY SPEAKS? I HAVE CINDY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, THE BIG QUESTION IS THERE, THEY DO A AIRBNB, I'M, I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS IS AN
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AIRBNB.WHY ARE THEY COMING IN FROM THE COUNTY TO THE CITY? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? SO THE APPLICANT HAS NOT NECESSARILY EXPLAINED TO STAFF WHAT THE PROBLEM IS IF THERE IS A PROBLEM.
WHAT STAFF RESEARCH DID SHOW IS THAT THERE WAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE DID LOOK INTO IT 'CAUSE WE WERE CURIOUS WHY THEY'RE ASKING TO ANNEX IN.
AND, UM, THE COUNTY CODE, FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING OF READING COUNTY CODE IS THAT, UM, BECAUSE THIS, UM, VACATION RENTAL IS LOCATED NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE, UM, FOR CONDITIONAL USE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION, IT DIFFERENTIATES, UM, EAST AND WEST SIDE OF A ONE A.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO ASK FOR WHAT THEY CALL A RESORT DWELLING.
SO THAT IS CITY STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, OF THE LIKELIHOOD OF WHY THEY'RE ASKING TO COME INTO THE CITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, JUST MAKE SURE WERE THERE ANY, WERE THERE ANY PUBLIC, UM, COMMENT SHEETS? OKAY.
UH, UH, COUNCILMAN LARUSSO APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 13 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN RUSSO, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT.
APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 14 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.
SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN OF BASSETT.
VICE MAYOR COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 15 BASED UPON THE, UH, FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD.
MEMORANDUM SECOND,
WE'LL CALL VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT AYE.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER NINE, ADAM, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, AN OR ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 16.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO THE GENERAL ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY CHANGING THE EXISTING ZONING FROM REU RURAL ESTATE USE TO A EU AGRICULTURAL ESTATE USE ON AN OVERALL 3.62 PLUS A MINUS ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FAIRPOINT LANE, NORTH OF PARKWAY DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 775 FEET WEST OF TURTLE MOUND ROAD 40 25 FAIRPOINT LANE, PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
ALRIGHT, NOW LET'S START WITH CINDY WITH A PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, AT THE LAST, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON MARCH 11TH, UH, THE APPLICANT DID AGREE AND COUNCIL RECOMMENDED, UM, AN ADDITIONAL, UM, CONDITION THAT'S BEEN ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO, UM, THE KEEPING OF, UM, THE ANIMALS THAT WOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THE CURRENT REU ZONING, UH, THAT HAS BEEN ADDED INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN CITY COUNCIL'S PACKAGE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, A FEW OTHER THINGS.
UM, SINCE THAT TIME, UH, THERE WAS THE PETITION THAT WAS EXPECTED TO BE, UM, TURNED IN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
UM, IT WAS SIGNED BY SEVEN PROPERTY OWNERS WHO REPRESENT 26 POINTS, ONE 2% OF THE LAND AREA WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE ZONING REQUEST.
THEREFORE, UM, THAT DOES INVOKE THE, UM, OVER 20% AND REQUIREMENT FOR A, A SUPER MAJORITY, WHICH IS A SIX SEVENTH VOTE OF CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT AT THE SECOND READING.
UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UM, JUST TO NOTE, THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS REQUESTED THE CONTINUANCE OF THE, UM, REZONING REQUEST TO THE APRIL 8TH, UH, AGENDA.
NOW AS YOU STATED, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL APRIL 8TH.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, WELL, FIRST LET'S START WITH, UH, WELL WE COULD, WE GOTTA DECIDE THAT BEFORE WE DECIDE IF, IF WE'RE GONNA DO ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MAYOR, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH THIS OVER THE PAST MONTH OR SO, OR TWO, UM, AND I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION WE WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN THIS MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT.
UM, SO I WOULD, UM, RESPECTIVELY, RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WE GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
ALSO, I'VE BEEN IN PHONE TAG WITH THOSE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM ALONG WITH, UM, THE REQUESTER, UH, SO THAT MAYBE
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WE CAN WORK SOME THINGS OUT SORT OF BEHIND THE SCENES.IS THAT A MOTION? THAT'S A MOTION.
OH, WE GOT A SECOND BY MS. PASS.
SO VICE MAYOR, JUST TO BE CLEAR, RIGHT, UH, UH, A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
I'M GONNA RECOMMEND INCLUDE THE TIME, PLACE, AND DATE OF THE CONTINUANCE.
SO I THINK A, A MOTION TO CONTINUE WOULD BE TO CONTINUE, UM, ITEM NINE, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 16 TO THE APRIL 8TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 6:30 PM HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBER.
UH, DOES, OH, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE VOTE.
IT JUST NEEDS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SO ALL THAT ITEM WOULD BE ON THE APRIL 8TH, UH, COUNCIL AGENDA.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM 10, MR. CONLEY.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE TO PROFESSIONAL
UM, TO THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH ENGINEERING, UH, WITH INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS SERVICES INCORPORATED FOR THE GRANT STREET WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS, UH, DESIGN CONTRACT.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
BACK IN 2016, WE SELECTED ISS FOR, UH, THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE GRANT STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH ALSO CONSISTED OF, OF SOME OTHER, UH, DESIGN COMPONENTS, OTHER, UH, UH, UH, RELATED PROJECTS.
UM, AT THE END OF 2023, UH, IT WAS IN THE FALL, WE WENT OUT TO BID FOR THE ORIGINAL GRANT STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, PHASE ONE, WHICH WAS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL, UM, UM, RFQ UH, CONTRACT.
IT WAS MUCH, IT WAS, IT WAS THREE FACTORS, THREE TIMES HIGHER THAN OUR, UM, OUR, UH, OUR, OUR BUDGET.
THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS THAT HAPPENED, UM, THAT WE, WE REALIZED DURING THAT PROCESS.
NUMBER ONE, IT WAS THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
WE COULDN'T REALLY BASE IT ON RELATIVITY, UH, RELATIVE TO OTHER BIDS SINCE WE JUST HAD THE ONE.
WE DID NOTICE TOO THAT IT WAS, UH, UH, A BIG PORTION OF THE, UH, UH, A LARGE PORTION OF THE, THE, THE SUBSTANTIAL COST OF THE BID WAS RELATED TO MATERIAL COSTS, WHICH WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUC CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
THAT SAID, THOUGH, WE DID NOTICE THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE, UM, TO REDUCE COSTS.
AND ONE OF THOSE WAS TO TAKE OUT THE, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE I FLUENT PUMP STATION WET WELL DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WERE, THAT WE HAD IN THE PROJECT, UH, THAT WERE A PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
AND THEY BASICALLY CONSISTED OF, OF RECONSTRUCTION OF THE IN FLUENT CHANNELS TO THE WET WELL.
AND, UH, AND THEN BASICALLY REPLACEMENT OF THE ENTIRE, UH, WET WELL STRUCTURE.
UH, SO WHAT WE DID IS WE ENTERED INTO AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR WITH ISS AND, UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING REALLY HARD FOR US IN DELIVERING AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR.
AND THIS IS A SCALED BACK DESIGN, WHICH TAKES OUT THAT I INFLUENT PUMP STATION, UH, INITIAL MODIFICATIONS THAT WE WERE DOING, UH, TO REDUCE COSTS.
AND IN SO, SO THAT PROJECT, WE'RE HOPING TO DELIVER THAT, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS AND BE READY TO BID.
THAT SAID, THOUGH IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY MODIFICATIONS NOW TO THE EXISTING PUMP STATION, WHAT WE DID THOUGH, IS WE EVALUATED THE PUMP STATION AND REALIZED THAT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE WALLS, THE OVERALL STRUCTURES IN GOOD CONDITION.
THANKFULLY, THE CHANNELS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION.
WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO THOUGH, IS WE NEED TO, UH, WE NEED TO DESIGN SOME MECHANICAL BAR SCREENS FOR THE CHANNELS, UH, THAT FIT THIS PARTICULAR CHANNEL.
IN THE ORIGINAL CASE, WE WERE DEMOING THE CHANNELS, SO WE COULD GO WITH, WE COULD SELECT A BAR SCREEN THAT HAD WHATEVER DIMENSIONS.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
WE'VE GOTTA SELECT OUR EQUIPMENT TO MATCH THE EXISTING CHANNELS.
SO, UH, WHAT OUR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE TASK ORDER, UH, CONSISTS OF IS SOME DESIGN MODIFICATIONS TO THE, UH, TO THE EXISTING IN FLUENT PUMP STATION.
WE, WELL, TO KEEP THE PUMP STATION IN OPERATION FOR A GOOD PERIOD OF TIME, WE CAN KEEP THIS OPERATING FOR ANOTHER 15 YEARS AND SAVE A LOT OF MONEY BY NOT HAVING TO DO A FULL BLOWN RECONSTRUCTION LIKE WE PLANNED ON IN THE, UM, IN THE, UH, THE INITIAL DESIGN.
SO THAT SAID, UH, AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE BASICALLY INCLUDES, UH, DESIGN AND SELECTION OF, UH, THE PROPER MECHANICAL BAR SCREENS TO, UH, TO FIT THE EXISTING IN FLUENT CHANNELS TO THE, UH, TO THE IN FLUENT WET WELL.
AND IT ALSO INCLUDES, UH, SOME STRUCTURAL COATING APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EXTEND OUR SERVICE LIFE TO PROTECT THE,
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UH, THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE WALLS AGAINST CORROSIVE GASES LIKE TYPICAL HYDROGEN SULFIDE.UH, THAT SAID, UM, OUR FUNDING'S AVAILABLE IN PROJECT NUMBER 3 3 7 2 5 MECHANICAL BAR SCREENS AT THE GRANT STREET WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.
AND OUR REQUEST TO COUNSEL IS APPRO APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE TO THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT FOR THE GRANT STREET MECHANICAL BAR SCREEN IMPROVEMENTS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS SERVICES OF MELBOURNE IN THE AMOUNT OF $78,700.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
MR. BAKER, FIRST, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.
A BIG PIECE OF WHAT YOU HAD MENTIONED WAS HOW IT'S GOING TO OVERALL SAVE A LOT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WE GO THROUGH WITH THIS.
JUST WANNA THANK YOU JENNIFER AND THE TEAM FOR FINDING A SOLUTION FOR THAT.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAKER? UM, VICE MAYOR? YEP.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YES, MAYBE NO, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW.
I USUALLY COME UP, COME UP THINKING PROBABLY, NO, NAH, YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THIS.
YOU FOUND A SOLUTION TO A CHALLENGE THAT WE COULDN'T, THAT WE COULDN'T MEET.
ISS IS DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US.
THEY'VE HAD SOME GOOD THOUGHTS, SO WE'LL KEEP IT ROLLING AND GET THIS THING DELIVERED.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL RETAIN A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, VICE MAYOR.
I'LL CALL YOU IN VOTE TONIGHT.
UH, APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE TO THE, UH, PROFESSIONAL EN ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT FOR THE GRANT STREET WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE MECHANICAL BAR SCREENS AT THE GRANT STREET WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, PROJECT NUMBER 3 3 7 2 5.
INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS SERVICES, LLC, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, $78,700.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT.
ALL, ALL THOSE OPPOSED A VOTE.
ALRIGHT, MR. BAKER, WE GOT YOU FOR ITEM 11.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VICE MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
ITEM NUMBER 11, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TASK ORDER NUMBER CA 0 2 9 TO OUR CONTINUING CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL WATER AND WASTEWATER HYDRAULIC MODELING AND PERMITTING CONSULTING SERVICES WITH CHA FOR OUR OPERATING PERMIT RENEWALS FOR OUR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES, BOTH OF OUR RECLA, OUR, UH, OUR WA OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, OUR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES REQUIRE, UH, FIVE YEAR OPERATING PERMIT RENEWAL.
SO ON A FIVE YEAR BASIS, WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND, UH, WHAT THIS SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES WITH CHA IS, UH, PREPARING AND SUBMITTING, UM, PERMANENT RENEWAL APPLICATION PACKAGES, CAPACITY ANALYSIS REPORTS, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE PERFORMANCE REPORTS, UH, COLLECTION SYSTEM ACTION PLANS, AND POWER OUTAGE CONTINGENCY PLANS, WHICH ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE, UH, THE PERMIT APPLICATION PACKAGE.
UM, AND FUNDING'S AVAILABLE IN OUR PROJECT NUMBER 3 3 5 2 5.
UH, SO OUR REQUEST TO COUNCIL IS APPROVEMENT OF TASK ORDER NUMBER CHA 0 2 9, UH, TO THE CONTINUING CONTRACT FOR, FOR THE PROFESSIONAL WATER AND WASTEWATER HYDRAULIC MODELING AND PERMITTING CONSULTING SERVICES WITH CHA, UH, FOR THE OPERATING PERMIT RENEWAL FOR THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,305.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAKER? SEEING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, SORRY.
COUNCILWOMAN KENNEDY, UH, UM, UH, MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER CHA 0 2 9 TO THE CONTINUING CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL WATER AND WASTEWATER HYDRAULIC MODELING AND PERMITTING CONSULTING SERVICES WITH CHA CONSULTING INC.
OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA FOR THE OPERATING PERMIT, RENEWAL FOR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,305.
ITEM NUMBER 12, CONSENT AGENDA.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? VICE MAYOR, VICE? ANYTHING PULLED? I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA A THROUGH C.
UH, WE GOT A, WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH
ALL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AND I VOTE.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 14, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE WITH JAMES ENNIS EVENING, UH, VICE MAYOR.
UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 17 IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A THREE AND A HALF FOOT WIDE BY 40 FOOT LONG PORTION OF THE 10 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG THE REAR LOT.
LINE OF LOT 19 BLOCK FOUR OF THE SANCTUARY SUBDIVISION 7 1 4 HUMMINGBIRD DRIVE, MAKING FINDINGS, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
ALRIGHT, JAMES, UH, EVENING VICE MAYOR MEETING COUNSEL.
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UH, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE FOR VACATING A 3.3 AND A HALF FOOT WIDE EASEMENT, UH, BY 40 FOOT LONG PORTION OF A 10 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT.IT'S SEVEN 14 HUMMINGBIRD DRIVE.
THE OWNER HAS COME IN TO DO REPAIRS TO THEIR POOL SCREEN ENCLOSURE.
IT WAS DETERMINED AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER OR THE CONTRACTOR THAT BUILT THE LOT HAD ENCROACHED INTO THE EXISTING UTILITY EASEMENT STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST.
IT'S FOUND THAT IT WILL NOT AFFECT ANY OF OUR POTENTIAL UTILITIES OR, UH, THE UTILITY INSTALLATIONS.
UH, THE REVIEW CRITERIA CONTAINED IN SECTION 52 99, THE CITY CODE, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, THAT THE VACATION ACTION BE APPROVED PURSUANT TO 52 100 B.
IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE VACATION ACTION WILL NOT COMPROMISE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, AESTHETICS, OR ECONOMIC ORDER.
UH, KEVIN, COULD YOU PULL THE, UM, ALRIGHT, YOU GOTTA TURN IT ON FOR US.
YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
UM, IT'S EFFECTIVELY JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THE BULL DECK, UH, WAS BUILT INTO, UM, THE UTILITY EASEMENT AND THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER IS TRYING TO BRING HIS PROPERTY BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH CODE AND, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH OUR, OUR STANDARDS.
UM, AS NOTED, WE HAVE NOT INDICATED THIS WILL CAUSE ANY CONFLICTS FOR UTILITIES OR, UH, IMPACT ANY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS IN ANY OTHER WAY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
BUT, UM, THE ACTION THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 17.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR, SIR.
UM, I'VE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR, I LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 20 YEARS AND THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT THE EIGHTH OR 10TH THAT HAS COME BEFORE US, I THINK OVER THE YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO COME BEFORE US BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE WAY THAT THE, UM, UH, THE DEVELOPER AND THE, AND THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO BUILT THE HOMES.
I THINK THERE WAS ONLY THREE OF THEM IN THERE, UH, THAT, UM, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, OVEREXTENDED THEMSELVES OF SORTS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE PROPER, UH, UH, GUIDANCE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, I, I TELL MY COUNSEL THAT WE, WE'VE APPROVED PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT OR 10 OF THESE SINCE I'VE KNOWN Y'ALL.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE, I THINK EVEN MINE, MY HOUSE IN THE PAST HAD TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AS WELL TOO.
SO I'M GOING TO, I I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL ON THIS, YOU KNOW, WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TO YOU.
THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS TO US, JAMES VICE MAYOR.
UH, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ENCOUNTERING THIS.
UM, SO IS THIS ALL RELATED TO BUILDING A SWIMMING POOL ON THE BACK OF THE HOME AND MOVING TO THE EASEMENT? SO YOU HAVE A POOL? YEP.
SO HE WANTS TO, SO HE WANTS TO REPAIR, THEY, THE FAMILY WANTS TO REPAIR THE SCREENING.
THEY CANNOT, TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY CANNOT GET THE PERMIT TO REPAIR THE SCREENING INSTEAD OF JUST GOING OUT AND DOING IT.
SO THEY CAME TO THE CITY, THEY FOUND OUT IT'S ENCROACHMENT AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
JUST REINFORCE THAT, THAT THIS APPLICANT HAS GONE TO THE ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE FOLLOWED THE APPROPRIATE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FUTURE WORK IS GONNA BE, WHICH IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT NOT EVERYBODY DOES THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
VICE MAYOR, I MOVE FOR APPROVE OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTION CARDS? NOPE.
DO WE HAVE A DISCLOSURE OF ANYBODY SEEING NONE? OKAY, NOW WE CAN MAKE THE MOTION.
COUNCILMAN SMITH, I MOVE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 17 ORDINANCE VACATING A PORTION OF REPUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT AT SEVEN 14 BURG DRIVE.
UH, UH, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT.
WE HAVE A GRANT AGREEMENT FOR ALI ARTS DISTRICT, AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY MS. CINDY DIPPER.
UH, SO THIS IS, UM, A CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IN THE ALI ARTS DISTRICT, EG.
UM, ON DECEMBER 10TH OF UM, 2024, COUNCIL DID DETERMINE THAT EG AD'S MAIN STREET REQUEST SERVES AS A CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED, UM, PER COUNCIL POLICY.
NUMBER 10, UM, THAT THE, UH, EGAD, UM, MAIN STREET OPERATES A MAIN STREET PROGRAM THAT ADHERES TO THE FOUR POINT APPROACH, UM, THAT'S NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED.
UM, THE CITY'S PREVIOUSLY FUNDED THE PROGRAM THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND THE LAST THREE YEARS.
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THIS YEAR AN INCREASE IN FUNDING FROM THE 50,000 PREVIOUSLY TO THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.UM, AT THE MARCH 11TH COUNCIL MEETING COUNCIL HAD A DISCUSSION ITEM, UH, REGARDING THE ADDITIONAL, UM, DISCUSSION, UM, OR THE ADDITIONAL, UM, FUNDING REQUEST AND STAFF PROVIDED DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF, UM, TO PLACE THE GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT ON THE AGENDA, UM, WITH THE FULL $100,000 AS REQUESTED.
SO THAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, UH, THERE WAS 50,000 ALREADY ALLOCATED IN THIS CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL 50,000 WILL BE AN APPROPRIATION, UM, FROM THE, UM, FUND BALANCE, UM, THAT WILL, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE OTHER 50,000 WILL COME FROM.
SO, UM, THE ACTION TONIGHT IS APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET RESOLUTION NUMBER 4 3 3 8, ALONG WITH APPROVAL OF THE GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THE ALI ARTS DISTRICT, AND THE AMOUNT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE COUNCILMAN LARUSSO? YES, MA'AM.
UM, AND, UH, UH, MS. LEON WOULD, WOULD YOU HELP ME ALONG WITH THIS AS WELL TOO? SO I, I REQUESTED THAT, UH, WE HEAR THIS, YOU KNOW, WE BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE FUNDING.
UH, I'VE WORKED WITH OUR STAFF, UM, ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LEVELS TO FIND, 'CAUSE I TOLD YOU WHEN WE LEFT HERE THE LAST TIME THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA TAKE IT, WE WEREN'T GONNA DO IT WITH AN UNFUNDED, UM, UH, MECHANISM MM-HMM
SO WE WEREN'T GONNA HAVE TO DIG INTO CONSTITU, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, CONSTITU, UH, UH, GENERAL FUNDS, GENERAL FUNDS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO WHAT WE HAVE THOUGH, COUNCIL APPROVED WAS A, UM, UH, IT WAS NOT MY IDEA, BUT IT'S MY DECISION TO MAKE THIS MOTION IS THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DOLLARS IN A DEDICATED FUND FOR THE STREET LIGHTING IN DOWNTOWN UGALI.
WE PUT IT BACK INTO THE GENERAL BUDGET BECAUSE NOT TO GENERALLY WE PUT IT INTO EGALI ALI, UM, SPECIFIC FUNDING.
UH, AND WE DID THAT BECAUSE IT WAS THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH BATH WATER WHEN WE GOT RID OF THE CRA WHEN WE WERE DOING THE PARKING GARAGE AND EVERYTHING.
SO I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AND, AND, AND, UH, I WANT TO THANK, UH, KATHY FOR, FOR SOME OF HER GUIDANCE ON THIS AS WELL TOO, THAT WE CAN MOVE 50,000, NOT FROM WHERE YOU'RE SAYING, BUT FROM THIS FUND INTO THE 50,000.
SO IT'S ALREADY DESIGNATED IN THE UGALI DOWNTOWN MM-HMM
SO WE'RE JUST MOVE, WE'RE JUST KIND OF SHUFFLING THE CARDS A LITTLE BIT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
SO I'M NOT ASKING MY COUNCIL FOR ANY APPROPRIATION OF ANY FUNDING THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED ALREADY.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR THAT LIGHTING PROJECT IN THE DOWNTOWN ALI AREA.
BUT WE CAN MOVE THAT 50 OVER AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING IT BACK AGAIN OVER THE YEARS TO COME BUT FUNDED.
THE, THE FUNDING ON THIS, UH, LIGHTING PROJECT, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS ANYWAY TO, TO MAXIMIZE BY THE TIME WE, WE GET THERE.
SO THAT'S MY, THAT, THAT'S MY ARGUMENT TO Y'ALL.
I, I FOUND THE MONEY IN THERE.
BECAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS LITTLE BY LITTLE TO GET MR. LUSO LITTLE BY LITTLE TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THE LIGHTING, WHICH IS, IM IMPORTANT FOR IT TO, TO GROW.
SO YOU ARE OKAY WITH THIS? I AM OKAY WITH THIS BECAUSE I, I HAVE, I I HAVE A FURTHER, I HAVE A FURTHER VISION
THIS IS JUST ONE STEP OF THAT VISION.
'CAUSE I MEAN, I, I, I'VE, I THINK THE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING LITTLE BY LITTLE TO GET THAT LIGHTING AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THAT AREA.
AND I'VE ALSO TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE CONCERNS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS WITH THE BUDGET COMING UP AS WELL TOO.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT FOR ME TO STAND HERE AND SAY, TAKE IT OUTTA CONTINGENCY, TAKE IT OUTTA GENERAL FUNDING, OR ASK YOU TO, THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT, COMING INTO WHERE WE'RE GOING INTO RIGHT NOW.
SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND, I'M DEDICATING, UH, 50 OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN BUILD DOWNTOWN ALI TO GREATER HEIGHTS AND WITH, UH, CASSIE'S, UH, DIRECTION AND, UH, WITH HER, UM, NOT GUARANTEE, BUT UH, PROPOSED, UH, UH, CONCEPT THAT IT WILL GO DOWN IN, IN COST NEXT YEAR.
MS. LAMB, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT WHAT WAS HANDED OUT IS A REVIS UH, A REVISION TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 4 3 3 8 AND IT SWITCHES OUT ATTACHMENT A.
AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO DO SO, PLEASE MAKE SURE IT HAS THIS REVISED ATTACHMENT A OKAY.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE ONE SIGNUP SHEET.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO
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SAY THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING, UM, EXTENDING THE FUNDING THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR ECAT.I, WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO, WE DO WANT THE LIGHTS.
WE DO WANT THEM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE A SHINY STREET AND NOT HAVE A DOWNTOWN.
SO MY COMMITMENT ON BEHALF OF THE GALLI ARTS DISTRICT IS THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO ASK FOR LESS IN THE COMMON YEARS SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEPENDING SO MUCH ON, UM, TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND SO THAT WE CAN REPLENISH THAT FUND.
AND IT'S NOT JUST OUR COMMITMENT AT THE EGT LEVEL, BUT IT'S ALSO MY PERSONAL COMMITMENT 'CAUSE I'M A PERSON OF MY WORD AND I DID SAY THAT WE WILL ASK FOR LESS.
SO I'M WORKING, UM, TO GET OTHER GRANTS AND ENSURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
I ALSO WANNA APOLOGIZE IF YOU HURT GIGGLES.
I GOT MY KIDS IN THE BACKGROUND WATCHING CARTOONS SO THAT I CAN BE IN THIS MEETING.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING AND, UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER RUSO FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND JENNY FOR PROVIDING GUIDANCE.
ALRIGHT, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL HONOR, TAKE A MOTION.
VICE MAYOR COUNCILMAN LARUSSO.
UH, SO WE HAVE AN APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 43 38.
NOW, DOES THAT REQUIRE THE INFORMATION ON HERE? SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT LANGUAGE.
WOULD YOU HELP ME OUT WITH THAT, ADAM? I WOULD SAY, UM, APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 43 38 WITH THE REVISED ATTACHMENT A AS, UM, AS PRESENTED WITH REVISED ATTACHMENT A AS PRESENTED.
THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE FIRST ACTION.
MOVE BY COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SMITH.
VICE MAYOR COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, UH, APPROVAL OF GRANT FUNDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND ALI ARTS DISTRICT MAIN STREET, INC.
IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000 AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 16, MR. CONWAY.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 18 IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY CHANGING THE EXISTING ZONING FROM CP COMMERCIAL PARKWAY DISTRICT TO C ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON A 1.15 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF NASA BOULEVARD, EAST OF BABCOCK STREET AND WEST OF APOLLO BOULEVARD, 55 EAST NASA BOULEVARD, PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY MS. CINDY DIMMER.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST NAME AND ORDINANCE CHANGING THE CURRENT ZONING OF CP ZONING TO C ONE ZONING ON A 1.15 ACRE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF NASA BOULEVARD, EAST OF BABCOCK STREET, AND WEST OF APOLLO BOULEVARD.
THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED IN DISTRICT THREE AND ALSO THE MIDTOWN ACTIVITY CENTER.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUESTING THE C ONE ZONING, UM, FOR THIS, UH, DEVELOPED PROPERTY IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK, UM, WITHIN THE ZONING SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, INSTALL A NEW COVERED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA FOR A NEW RESTAURANT.
UM, AND OPEN UNCOVERED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE CP ZONING SETBACKS, HOWEVER, TO PUT AN AWNING AND COVER IT.
UM, DOES REQUIRE IT TO MEET THE BUILDING SETBACKS.
UM, THE PROPOSED CHANGE, UM, FROM CP TO C ONE WOULD CHANGE THE SETBACK FROM 50 FEET TO 20 FEET, ALLOWING THIS OUTDOOR SEATING AREA AND THE, UM, THE COVERED AREA TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
UH, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CP AND C ONE, THEY HA THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR IN A LOT OF THE USES, RESTAURANTS, OFFICE, UM, THINGS OF THOSE NATURE.
HOWEVER, THE, THE CP ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS A NUMBER OF, UM, AUTOMOTIVE RELATED USES.
AND THE C ONE ZONING IS PROPOSED, WOULD NOT ALLOW THOSE, UM, VEHICLE RELATED USES, WHICH IS NOT A, A BAD THING IN THE, IN THIS LOCATION.
UM, THE SURROUNDING AREAS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
YOU DO HAVE, UM, A SCHOOL JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE, UM, THE, UH, REQUESTED REZONING SHOULD NOT AFFECT THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 18 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. TIMMER.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TIMMER? COUNCILMAN LARUSSO? THANK YOU SIR.
BEFORE, BEFORE QUESTIONS, CAN WE DO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND DISCLOSURES PLEASE? UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES? SEEING NONE.
UH, SO THIS, UH, JUST TO REMIND US, WHAT USED TO BE EDDIE'S SUNRISE DINER RIGHT? OR THE VILLAGE IN? DEPENDS ON HOW FAR BACK YOU WANNA GO BACK.
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SHOWING YOU WHERE I WAS EVEN BORN.SO, UM, SO THE, THE, THE RE THE RE EMERGENCE OF, OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS, IS EXCITING.
IT IS BECAUSE IT'S, THERE IS BEEN A, A, A BIG HOLE IN THAT AREA FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH, UH, SOMETIMES DINNER, WHATEVER.
BUT, BUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A MEETING AREA FOR MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS FOR SO LONG, UH, TO COME LOCAL DINER KIND OF FEEL AND TO ADD AN OUTSIDE, UH, ENTICEMENT TO IT AS WELL TOO.
UH, PERSONALLY I'M ALL FOR IT.
AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS, UH, TO US AND, AND WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE REALLY GOOD NEWS.
MY, MY QUESTION IS, AT WHAT POINT, I KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST READING WHERE WE HAVE SORT OF A RENDERING OF WHAT THE OUTSIDE PATIO, UH, AREA WOULD LOOK LIKE OR IS THAT THE RENDERING IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS REQUEST FOR REZONING? UM, SO THERE, THERE'S NOT ANY RENDERING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED US AND THEY HAVEN'T STARTED ON THE PROJECT YET EITHER.
'CAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS FIRST AND THEN THEY'LL RIGHT.
THEY CAN'T GET A BUILDING PERMIT OR ANYTHING APPROVED BECAUSE, UM, THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE ENCROACHES INTO THE CURRENT SETBACK.
AND YOU MENTIONED THE MIDTOWN ACTIVITY CENTER.
SO IS THAT, UM, JUST FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WAS THAT THAT MIDTOWN ACTIVITY CENTER ALSO THE SAME BOUNDARIES AS WHAT USED TO BE THE BABCOCK BUSINESS DISTRICT CRA? OR IS IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT? YES AND NO.
IT INCLUDES THE, UM, FORMER BABCOCK CRA BOUNDARIES, BUT IT INCLUDES, UM, AN ADDITIONAL AREA.
UM, IT GOES BROADLY OVER TO THE, TO THE RIVER AND A LITTLE FURTHER WEST AND A LITTLE FURTHER, UM, NORTH AND SOUTH SORT OF CLOSES ALMOST THE GAP BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE CRA AND THE OGA CRA TO SOME EXTENT IT'S DESIGNATED WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS AN ACTIVITY CENTER.
UH, VICE MAYOR, JUST QUICKLY TO YEP.
MR. COLLIN TO HAVING, HAVING BEEN PRESENT AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING, I, I DO RECALL THERE BEING SORT OF A ROUGH SKETCH OF THE, UM, THE PROPOSED AWNING STRUCTURE BEING ESSENTIALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE ROOF LINE A ALONG THE FRONT.
SO I, I, I RECALL THAT BEING PRESENTED, SO IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE CAN ADD FOR THE PACKET FOR, FOR SECOND READING.
'CAUSE I, I RECALL THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S IN HERE.
I THINK IT WAS IN THE POWERPOINT, BUT IT, IT, IT WAS JUST A LINE DRAWING OF A, YOU KNOW, AN AWNING EXTENSION.
YOU KNOW, COMING OFF THE BUILDING.
BUT IT, IT LOOKED LIKE, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS TRYING TO MATCH THE ROOF LINE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
I GUESS WELL, OKAY, WELL HERE YOU GO.
A LITTLE BIT OF I LIKE IT HERE AND HERE.
CAN I GET TWO MAKE OVER MEDIUM WITH BACON? AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. DIMMER? SOME ORDERS ALREADY.
SO THAT, SO THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS WHAT I SAW.
SO I, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU JUST SAW.
ALRIGHT, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL, UH, VICE MAYOR.
COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 18 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM ALL, I GOT A MOTION, UH, I THINK THAT WAS A SECOND BY MS. KENNEDY.
ALRIGHT, I GOT MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BASSETT, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN KENNEDY.
THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 19, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR REVISIONS TO THE SUBDIVISION CODE MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING APPENDIX D OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDING CHAPTER EIGHT, SUBDIVISION CODE AMENDING CHAPTER NINE, DESIGN STANDARDS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS AMENDING ARTICLE 15, PRESERVATION AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
ALRIGHT, NOW, MS. DIMMER FOR PRESENTATION? YES.
SO THIS IS A, UM, FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CITY CO APPENDIX D CHAPTERS EIGHT AND NINE, A NUMBER OF THE ARTICLES WITHIN CHAPTER NINE, UM, TO UPDATE, UM, AND AMEND VARIOUS ARTICLES, UM, AS IT RELATES TO PRESERVATION OF TREES AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN.
UH, SO BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024, UM, COUNCIL DID GIVE DIRECTION FOR STAFF TO PROCEED WITH REVISIONS TO THE UPDATE OF THE CITY'S PRESERVATION AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN, UM, STANDARDS, UM, PRIOR TO TO THIS TIMEFRAME THIS EVENING.
IT'S BEEN, UM, QUITE A FEW YEARS SINCE WE'VE LOOKED AT THE LANDSCAPE CODE, UM, AT LEAST OVER 30 YEARS FOR A LOT OF THE MAIN CONTENT AND OUR CURRENT, UM, TREE REMOVAL FEES, UM, HAVE DEFINITELY NOT BEEN REVIEWED SINCE 2000 AND AND THREE.
SO WITH THAT, I WANNA TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AND JUST WALK, UM, COUNCIL THROUGH, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE MAIN CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED WITHIN THE, UM, CITY CODE, UM, TEXT AMENDMENT THIS EVENING.
UM, SO WE CAN SORT OF BREAK THAT DOWN INTO THREE DIFFERENT AREAS.
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I'LL TALK ABOUT TREE PRESERVATION AND REMOVAL, AND THEN GENERAL LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND THEN JUST THE UPDATE SIDE, UM, OF WHAT'S WITHIN THE, UM, WITHIN THE CITY CODE.SO, UM, STAFF DID, UM, TAKE SOME TIME AND REVIEWED ORDINANCES, UM, CODES, UM, WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS, UM, BOTH OUTSIDE AND, YOU KNOW, MAINLY WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION, UM, WITHIN OUR COUNTY AREA.
AND LOOKED AT THOSE, UM, VARIOUS TREE CODES, TRYING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEW OUT THERE.
UM, SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT IN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND WE DID FIND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME INTERESTING, UM, NEW IDEAS, UM, AS WELL AS THE OBSERVATION THAT OUR TREE REMOVAL FEES ARE, ARE DEFINITELY, UM, BEHIND THE TIMES.
UM, WE ALSO JUST AS NOTE TOO, WE DID SEND OUT OUR, A ROUGH DRAFT OF THIS, UM, PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SEVERAL LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND CIVIL ENGINEERS IN THE COMMUNITY JUST TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK AND, UM, AND MOST OF THEM DID GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK, BUT GENERALLY IT WAS ALL, IT WAS ALL VERY POSITIVE.
UM, SOME, SOME OF THEM DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF FEEDBACK, BUT, UM, MORE OKAY WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
UM, SO FIRST I'M GONNA START WITH, UM, THE TREE PRESERVATION AND REMOVAL, UM, PORTION.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE EASIER AND A LITTLE BIT, UM, LESS COSTLY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE PARTICULARLY A LARGER SITE, UM, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO A, DO A TREE SURVEY THAT BASICALLY GOES AND ACCOUNTS FOR EVERY TREE, EVERY TYPE OF SPECIES, AND THE SIZE, UM, OF IT ON A, UM, PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A, UM, A LARGER SITE, UM, THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, BEGIN TO GET COSTLY.
SO ONE OF THE, THE NEW, UM, CONCEPTS WE FOUND IS THERE'S NOW GONNA BE AN ALLOWANCE THAT A, UM, SITE OVER 10 ACRES, UM, COULD DO A SURVEY SAMPLING METHOD, UM, OF THE TREES.
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS IN COLLABORATION WITH CITY STAFF, A MINIMUM OF THREE, UM, NO SMALLER THAN ONE ACRE, UM, AREAS COULD BE REVIEWED FOR WHAT IS THE TREE, UM, SPECIES AND COUNT AND SIZES WITHIN THAT, UM, PARTICULAR ONE ACRE AREA IN THREE DIFFERENT AREAS.
UM, AND THEN THAT NUMBER CAN BE EXTRAPOLATE EXTRAPOLATED BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE SITE.
SO IN THIS SITE YOU WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY TAKE THE FINDINGS OF THOSE THREE ONE ACRE AREAS.
UM, TIMES FOUR, WE DID AN EASY MATH CALCULATION HERE, UM, WITH 12 ACRES.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD THEN GENERATE YOU FOR THE WHOLE SITE, THE NUMBER OF TREES, THE, UM, DIAMETER OF THE TREES AND THE SPECIES, UM, OF THE TREES THAT ARE ON THE SITE.
UM, THE, A HARD COUNT OF THE TREES AND THE TREE SIZE IS NECESSARY, UM, AS YOU GET TO THE NEXT STEP OF THE PROCESS, UM, WHICH IS THE TREE, UM, REMOVAL FEES.
UM, SO JUST TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL'S CLEAR, YOU'RE NOT VOTING TONIGHT ON ANY TREE REMOVAL, UM, FEES THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, UM, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WITH A RESOLUTION THAT THOSE FEES WILL BE, UM, WITHIN.
BUT IT'S SORT OF HARD TO TALK ABOUT THIS WHOLE CODE CHANGE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THIS AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, SO, UM, SO AS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, HAD HAD ASKED, WE DID, UM, WE DID GO OUT AND LOOK AT A NUMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, OF CITIES AND TO SEE, YOU KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FEES, UM, OTHER CITIES ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT.
AND UM, THE FIRST COLUMN THERE IS THE, UM, EXISTING, UM, TREE REMOVAL FEES, UM, FOR BOTH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THEN COCOA TITUSVILLE AND WEST MELBOURNE.
AND AS YOU LOOK AT THOSE, IT IMMEDIATELY WILL JUMP OUT TO YOU THAT, UM, IT'S A BARGAIN IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE TO COME AND TAKE DOWN ALL THE TREES YOU WOULD LIKE FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND, UM, SO WHAT I'M GONNA TELL COUNCIL IS THAT'S NOT REALLY INCENTIVIZING ANYBODY TO PRESERVE TREES MM-HMM
UM, IT'S DEFINITELY, UM, PROBABLY MORE OF AN INCENTIVE TO SAY IT'S EASIER.
LET ME JUST TAKE ALL THE TREES DOWN ON MY SITE, MAKES THE SITE DESIGN MUCH EASIER.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY AN APPROACH WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GETTING, UM, WHERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEN THE, UM, OTHER CITIES AND, UM, THEY'RE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE THE PRESERVATION OF TREES AND PARTICULARLY LARGER DIAMETER TREES.
SO THEIR TREE REMOVAL FEES, UM, ARE ALL BASED ON THE, UM, THE DBH IS THE DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT.
IT'S LIKE A TYPICAL, UM, MEASUREMENT OF WHERE YOU MEASURE TREE, UM, HEIGHT FROM.
AND, UM, THEIR FEES ARE ALL BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE TREE.
SO YOU CAN TAKE DOWN A TWO INCH TREE AND IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANNA TAKE THAT 30 INCH TREE DOWN, YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY TRY TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE SITE DESIGN AND LOOK AT PRESERVATION OF THAT TREE, UM, KNOWING THAT YOU'VE GOT A LARGER,
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UM, TREE REMOVAL FEE, UM, THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, TO LOOK AT FOR THAT.UM, OTHER CITIES ALSO DON'T, THERE'S NO CAP ON THE FEES, SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT YOU HAVE, UM, ARE WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR.
UM, AND THEN, UM, ALSO OF NOTE, UM, SEVERAL OF THE CITIES, UM, ALSO HAVE A DIFFERENTIATING, UM, AMOUNT FOR THE TREE REMOVAL FEE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE SITE AND THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ON A ONE ACRE SITE, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE SOME TREES AND THEY'RE ALL RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, UM, YOU DON'T WANNA PENALIZE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, TO DEVELOP THAT SITE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE SMALLNESS AND LOCATION OF THE TREES.
BUT AS YOU GO TO LARGER SIZE SITES, YOU HAVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY PRESERVE SOME OF THE TREES IN SOME AREAS OF THAT SITE.
AND THEN, UM, MOVING ON THEN TO THE, UM, LANDSCAPE DESIGN PORTION OF THE CHANGES.
UM, THERE, UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER AREAS OF CITY CODE, UM, WHERE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS WERE ALL JUMBLED ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND SO WE'VE REALLY WORKED TO CONSOLIDATE THAT, UM, ALL NOW INTO ONE LOCATION.
THAT'LL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR, UM, WHETHER ENGINEERS OR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE TRYING TO FIND OUR CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MORE EASILY FIND THEM.
SO A COUPLE OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE, UM, SAW SOME CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE.
UM, ONE OF THE AREAS RIGHT NOW, UM, ONE IN TWO FAMILY, UM, RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UM, THERE'S SORT OF A ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
YOU MUST PUT FOUR TREES ON THAT LOT NO MATTER IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, A QUARTER ACRE OR AN ACRE.
UM, AND WE FOUND PARTICULARLY, UM, WE'RE SEEING MORE SMALLER LOTS DEVELOPED IN THE CITY WITH MAYBE PUD ZONING, PARTICULARLY A LOT MORE TOWN HOME LOTS.
AND IF YOU CAN SEE, UM, ON YOUR, YOUR LEFT, YOU HAVE SORT OF A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY LOT.
PUTTING FOUR TREES ON THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY DIFFICULT, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO A TOWN HOME LOT, WE ARE MAKING THEM SQUEEZE FOUR TREES ONTO THOSE SMALL LOTS AND THAT'S NOT WORKING AND HELPFUL FOR ANYBODY.
SO WE'VE PROPOSED, UM, A, UM, THRESHOLD THAT WOULD, UM, DETERMINE, UM, FROM TWO TO FOUR TREES.
BASICALLY A TOWN HOME LOT WOULD GO DOWN TO JUST TWO TREES REQUIRED.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, A FEASIBLE THING TO DO.
UM, MAYBE YOUR PUD LOTS ARE GONNA FALL INTO THAT, UM, MIDDLE CATEGORY WHERE THEY MAY REQUIRE THREE TREES.
SO IT'S GONNA HELP THOSE, UM, LOTS OUT AND THAT, AND THAT'LL HELP EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, SMALL INFILL LOTS TO LARGER SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENTS, UM, BE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT OVERLOAD THE SITE WITH WITH TREES.
ANOTHER AREA THAT WE REALLY JUST TRIED TO DO SOME UPDATING IN IS WE HAD SOME OLDER LANGUAGE, UM, THAT'S BEEN AROUND QUITE QUITE A WHILE, BUT WE REFERENCED TREES AS CANOPY AND ACCENT TREES, AND THAT'S NOT REALLY THE CORRECT NOMENCLATURE AND WAY, YOU KNOW, TO REFERENCE THEM.
SO, UM, WE'VE PROPOSED THE NEW CATEGORIES OF NATIVE, NON-NATIVE AND PALM TREES.
WE'VE ALSO INTRODUCED THE, UM, IDEA UNDER NATIVE AND NON-NATIVE THAT, UM, YOU HAVE OVER STORY TREES, WHICH ARE YOUR BIG TALL TREES.
THEY, THEY GROW TALLER, HAVE BROADER, UM, YOU KNOW, CANOPIES, UM, VERSUS AN UNDERSTORY TREE WHICH DOESN'T GROW SO TALL, UM, PER SE COULD STILL BE A NATIVE, YOU KNOW, HARDWOOD KIND OF TREE.
UM, BUT THEY DON'T GROW, UM, AS LARGE AS YOUR OVERSTORY TREES.
AND, UM, THE REASON THAT BECOMES, UM, AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO IS IF YOU, UM, IF YOU DRIVE AROUND THE CITY, YOU MIGHT OFTEN SEE, YOU KNOW, A SITE AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF HUGE OAK TREES RIGHT ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEY'RE ALL GROWING INTO THE POWER LINES AND, UM, NOT A REALLY GOOD THING BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GONNA GET ALL CHOPPED DOWN BY FP AND L UM, AND MADE TO LOOK LIKE V TREES.
UM, SO, UM, IN DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH, THERE'S ACTUALLY FLORIDA, FLORIDA STATUTE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW CITIES TO REQUIRE TREES TO BE IN THOSE AREAS.
WE DON'T REQUIRE IT, BUT OFTEN THAT'S THE EASIEST PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, AN ENGINEER OR SOMEBODY TO PUT THEY, THEY FIT THERE.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE'RE PUTTING SOME GUIDELINES WITHIN THE CODE THAT TALK ABOUT WHERE YOU SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T, UM, PUT TREES, UM, IN RELATION TO POWER LINES.
SO DEPENDING ON IF IT'S AN UNDERSTORY TREE, AN O OVERSTORY TREE, WE'RE GIVING SOME GUIDANCE ON WHERE SOME OF THOSE SHOULD BE PLACED AND SHOULDN'T BE PLA UM, SHOULD NOT BE PLACED.
UM, SO THAT SHOULD HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE, UM, FUNNY LOOKING V TREES THAT
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WE WE SEE AROUND TOWN.UM, ANOTHER AREA THAT WE'RE, UM, PROPOSING A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE IS, UM, TREE DIVERSITY.
UM, AGAIN, IS, UM, AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE GET SITES WHERE THEY'RE JUST LIKE, OH, LET'S JUST DO ALL OAK TREES.
UM, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE TREE DIVERSITY THAT, UM, CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, THE HEALTH OF THE TREES AND THE PRE PRESERVATION OF THE TREES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT TREE DISEASES AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
UM, THIS'LL, UM, REQUIRE, UM, THERE TO BE A BIT OF TREE DIVERSITY THAT'S FAIRLY EASILY DONE WHEN YOU, YOU LOOK AT, YOU HAVE THREE CATEGORIES ALREADY, NATIVE, NON-NATIVE AND PALMS. SO YOU'RE GONNA PRETTY EASILY GET INTO THAT TREE DIVERSITY, UM, PRETTY EASY.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT INTENDED TO MAKE IT HARDER BY ANY MEANS, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT, BUT JUST PUTTING A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT INTO SOME OF THE TREES, UM, AND THE, THE VARIATION OF THEM.
AND THEN, UM, THE LAST THING, UM, THAT I WANNA MENTION IS THAT IN, IN REALLY RARE OCCASIONS, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE, UM, OUR CODE SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THIS ONE ACRE SITE REQUIRED 20 TREES THAT NEED TO GO HERE.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST PHYSICALLY NOT POSSIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
SO WE'VE WRITTEN A VERY, VERY TIGHT EXCEPTION THAT IF THERE IS THE NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE A SITE CAN'T PUT THESE TREES ON IT, THAT, UM, THEY CAN THEN PAY INTO A NATIVE TREE REPLACEMENT FUND.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS IN OUR C3 ZONING IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREAS.
UM, OUR SETBACKS ALLOW YOU TO BUILD PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE THAT DOESN'T LEAVE ANYWHERE FOR TREES TO GO.
UM, WE'VE SORT OF HAD TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY LIKE WITH HOTEL MELBY.
UM, SO WE'VE LOST OUT ON TREES BEING PUT ON SITE BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
WHAT, WHAT THIS WILL DO IS IT'LL ALLOW THEM TO PAY INTO, UM, A TREE FUND AT, UM, $275 A TREE.
WE DID LOOK, UM, WE ACTUALLY TALKED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT'S A TYPICAL TREE THAT THEY'RE PLANTING COSTING.
UM, SO THAT FIELD ALSO BE IN THE RESOLUTION.
UM, BUT THAT FUND WILL BE THEN AVAILABLE TO, UM, TO THE CITY AND TO PARKS TO PURCHASE FUTURE TREES AND PUT TREES IN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY SEE NEEDED.
UM, SO WITH THAT, OTHER THAN AGAIN, JUST A LOT OF THE CLEANUP AND BRINGING A LOT OF THIS, UM, BACK INTO THE, UM, CHAPTER NINE OF APPENDIX D UM, THAT REALLY SORT OF HITS A LOT OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF, UM, WHAT'S PROPOSED IN CITY CODE AND, UM, LET DO THE, THE FORMAL PART.
SO WE DID HAVE, UM, THIS NOT ONLY, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE IT, WE DID HAVE THIS, UM, AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, I'M GLAD I'M GETTING THAT 'CAUSE I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT POINT.
UM, WE WERE VERY CAUTIOUS IN NOT WANTING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT WERE GONNA IMPACT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, CONSTRUCTION.
SO ON THE TREE REMOVAL, UM, PERMIT FEES, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE RESOLUTION IS THAT WE'RE AHOLD FEES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS TO THE CURRENT FEE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, SO THAT THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL IMPACT.
SO THIS ORDINANCE, UM, WENT BEFORE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THERE WASN'T A QUORUM THERE.
WE DID, UM, AS STAFF WALK THROUGH THE PROPOSED, UM, CODE CHANGES.
THE BOARD WAS, WAS GOOD WITH ALL THAT.
THEY AGREED THAT THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, DID NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY IMPACT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, BY CONSENSUS THEY AGREED WITH THAT, BUT THEY, UM, DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM, UM, TO MAKE THAT FINAL VOTE.
AND SO WITH THAT, UH, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 19 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.
THANK YOU MS. DIMER, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU AND YOUR TEAM DID ON THIS IS EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND FANTASTIC.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DIMER? I DO.
I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S ONE TREE I DON'T LIKE, UH, THAT I WANT NOT IN HERE IN THE CITY IS WATER OAKS, BECAUSE THE REASON BEING, I DON'T WANT 'EM IN THERE.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU MIGHT LAUGH ABOUT IT, THEY'RE A BIG TREE, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE, THEY, THEY'RE HUGE TREES, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE LIKE A TWO FOOT, UM, ROOT SYSTEM AND THEY'RE EASY.
WHEN THEIR STORMS GO OVER, THEY'RE EASY TO BLOW OVER.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A TREE THAT WE DON'T WANT PLANTED CLOSE TO THE HOMES BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE HAD FRIENDS THAT HAVE HAD THAT IN THE AREAS THAT YEAH, THEY, THEY, THEY WERE VERY NERVOUS ABOUT IT.
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NEIGHBOR'S LAWN, AND SO THEY WERE VERY NERVOUS AND THEY SAID OTHER ONES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD TIPPED OVER.SO I'M JUST ASKING ABOUT THE WATER OAKS NOT BE IN THE CITY THAT IF, IF IT'S PROHIBITED, IF THEY WANNA TAKE A WATER OAK TREE OUT, BE MY GUEST IN A DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A DANGER THAT IF IT WAS A STORM THAT IT COULD BLOW OVER.
IT'S AN EASY TREE TO BLOW OVER.
THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE OR ONE OF THOSE WET STORMS THAT WE HAVE, THAT CAN BE A REAL DANGER FOR ANYBODY.
I I JUST WANT THAT TREE NOT HERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF MY BIG THINGS.
UH, CAN YOU GO BACK, UH, TO WHERE YOU SHOWED THAT 12 ACRE PARCEL WITH ALL TREES THAT, THERE YOU GO, BUT ONE MORE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS THAT THE DEVELOPER IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY CHOOSES ONE, UH, CHOOSES THREE ACRES RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA LET HIM CHOOSE THE BARREN CORNER OVER HERE WITH NO TREES.
WELL, MIKE, AND THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING.
UH, IS THAT, WHAT IF THE DEVELOPER BEFORE HE ANY OWNS THE PROPERTY AND BEFORE HE INCORPORATES YOU TO COME IN, HE DOES A, A, A 10,000 FOOT KIND OF, UH, UH, REVIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND HE CHOOSES AN ACRE THAT HE THINKS WOULD BE COOL, BUT IT ENDS UP TO HAVE, UM, A PROTECTIVE SPECIES ON IT.
BUT IF YOU BROUGHT, BUT IF HE TOOK THAT AND PUT THAT OTHER, CHOSE ANOTHER ACRE OVER HERE THAT HAD NO PROTECTIVE SPECIES, THEN IT WOULD BE IN, UH, UH, IN CONCERT THAT WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER, THAT THE, THE, THE PROJECT CAN BE DEVELOPED BASED ON SAMPLING VERSUS THE ENTIRE PRO UH, UH, PROPERTY.
SO HOW DO WE PROTECT FROM THAT? SO I THINK WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S A SITE WITH GOPHER TORTOISES ON IT, UH, PROTECTED SPECIES.
I DIDN'T WANT SOME PROTECTED SPECIES.
I DIDN'T WANNA PICK ON THE GOPHERS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HELL YOU YEAH.
UM, SO IF THEY DID A, A TREE SURVEY AND ONE OF THE SURVEY AREAS WAS AN AREA WHERE THEY FOUND THEM LATER, SOME SPECIES, UM, BEFORE THEY CAME TO YOU AND SAID, WE WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE THESE THREE ACRES SO THEY CHOOSE ANOTHER ACRE BECAUSE THEY FOUND NOT SAYING THAT DEVELOPERS ARE, UH, ARE DECEITFUL.
BUT, SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES.
SO PERMITTING FOR, YOU KNOW, A SPECIAL SPECIES MM-HMM
IS, YOU KNOW, A STATE OR FEDERAL PERMIT PROCESS AND THEY'RE EITHER GONNA GET A PERMIT TO REMOVE THOSE SPECIES OR NOT.
SO IT'S REALLY NOT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR TREE REMOVAL SURVEY AND, AND PERMIT.
IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET PERMITTED BY THE STATE OR FEDERAL AGENCY TO REMOVE X SPECIES, UM, THEN THEIR TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS, IS SORT OF A MOOT POINT.
THEY'RE NEVER GONNA GET TO THAT STEP.
'CAUSE WE'VE EXPERIENCED CLEAR CUTTING IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS JUST COME IN, I'LL, I'LL PAY THE THOUSAND DOLLARS, I'LL CLEAR CUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS PROPERTY.
AND WE'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE, AND WE'VE COME ACROSS IT AND I, I KNOW QUITE A FEW DEVELOPERS WHO DO IT.
SO, SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ISN'T GONNA LET ANYBODY SIDESTEP.
MAYBE, MAYBE THERE WAS A LOT OF SCRUB OAKS OUT THERE AND THERE WERE SCRUB JAY'S ON SITE AND THAT DOESN'T PARTICULARLY SHOW UP ON THE TREE SURVEY THAT THIS ISN'T GONNA ALLOW THEM TO CIRCUMVENT THAT IN ANY WAY.
SO CINDY, YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THIS, THAT WE WON'T ENCOUNTER WHAT I'VE JUST UH, DESCRIBED? YES, SIR.
EVERY GO TURTLE I CAN SAVE GETS ME ONE STEP CLOSER TO HEAVEN.
COUNCILMAN SMITH, UH, UH, VICE MAYOR, UH, CINDY, GREAT PRESENTATION.
THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE, BUT MY QUESTION IS, SO ORIGINALLY WHAT WE'RE MOVING FROM IS A $1,000 FLAT RATE.
SO TAKE THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO SORT OF PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT A COST MAY BE, UH, TO DO A MOVING FORWARD TO DO A PROJECT? SO, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, NO.
UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I, WE COULD SEE, UM, MAYBE AT SECOND READING, UM, IF MAYBE WE COULD MAYBE, MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME MAYBE TYPICALS YEAH.
MAYBE ON A CASE STUDY SOMETHING.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING FROM LIKE NOTHING.
RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT, IT IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASE IN FEES, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND TALKING WITH THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS, YOU KNOW, FEELS, FEELS COMFORTABLE.
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KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE A, A, A SHOCKING THING BECAUSE IT IS WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE CHARGING.UM, SO IT, IT, IT IS SORT OF THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE.
UM, BUT, BUT WE COULD LOOK AT TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER MAYBE SOME TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, UM, LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE RECENT SITES AND, AND LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TREES AND WORK UP A NUMBER FOR YOU.
SO, I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT BECAUSE IT DOES TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S GONNA MAKE DEVELOPERS RECONSIDER JUST GOING AND REMOVING TREES.
AND, AND, AND IF THEY DO DECIDE TO GO FORWARD, THEN THAT BRINGS ADDITIONAL REVENUE INTO THE CITY FOR WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS SORT OF WONDERING.
THEN MY, MY FINAL QUESTION IS CAN THIS BE PROACTIVE? I MEAN RETROACTIVE, I GUESS.
AT
COUNCILMAN BASSETT, THE CITY ATTORNEY.
JUST, JUST FOR, FOR COUNCIL'S EDIFICATION.
AS LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
UH, IF AND WHEN THIS PASSES ON SECOND READING RIGHT, IT WILL ESTABLISH NEW STANDARDS FOR NEW AND REDEVELOPMENT AS OF THAT ADOPTION DATE, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T GET APPLIED TO ALL EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, SO, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
RIGHT? SO YOU'LL ESSENTIALLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT STANDARDS, RIGHT? YOU'LL HAVE EVERYONE THAT'S DEVELOPED UNDER THE CURRENT STANDARD AND THE CODE LANGUAGE THAT EXISTS TODAY.
AND THEN UPON ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE, THERE WOULD BE A NEW STANDARD THAT ALL NEW AND REDEVELOPMENT WOULD THEN NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT, THAT NEW PROCESS.
SO LIKE SEEING, SEEING ALL OF THESE COME IN IS PROBABLY A PHASED APPROACH OF NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT AS, AS IT'S OCCURRING.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA APPLY CITYWIDE OF, HEY, YOU NOW NEED, YOU KNOW, 27 OAK TREES THAT, THAT YOU, YOUR SITE DOESN'T HAVE
SO I'M GONNA, UM, MY QUESTION WAS, UM, THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE TREE REMOVAL, UM, DOES THAT GO TO THE GENERAL FUND OR DOES IT GO TO A SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, YES.
IT'S, IT'S THE INTENT THAT IT GOES, UM, ALONG WITH OUR OTHER GENERAL PLAN REVIEW FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE I'M CORRECT IN SAYING THAT'S JUST GENERAL FUND.
IT'S, IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO, UM, BUILDING DIVISION FEES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT'D BE MORE TYPICAL OF WHAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING PLAN REVIEW FEES AND, AND THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE REVENUE SOURCE.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO, UM, HELP SAVE THE TREES.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, OXYGEN VITAL, KEEP IT COOLER, KEEP THINGS COOL.
BUT ALSO, UM, IF IT PUTS A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY INTO THE CITY, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING EITHER, SO.
UM, ONE, WHEN, UM, MR. CONNOLLY, YOU SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE IN EFFECT AS OF SECOND READING, RIGHT? SO ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT, THOSE THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT FROM THE TIME OLD RULES, WHAT DOES THAT YEAH, THEY'LL STAY UNDER OLD RULES.
IF IT'S, SO IT'S ONLY THE BRAND NEW ONES THAT APPLY? YEAH, U USUALLY, USUALLY WHEN WE HAVE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY SUBMITTED AND IN PROCESS OF REVIEW, THEY, THEY GET APPLIED, THE, THE EXISTING RULES APPLIED TO THEM.
SO IT WOULD BE BRAND NEW APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, ON APRIL 10TH.
WOULD THEN THEORETICALLY BE SUBJECT TO NEW RULES.
WHEREAS THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY IN THE, IN THE REVIEW PIPELINE, I, I IMAGINE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING ARE STILL APPLYING THOSE EXISTING STANDARDS.
SO THE APRIL 1ST STAMP WOULD BE THE OLD RULES, RIGHT? SO YEAH, APRIL, APRIL 8TH, APRIL 9TH, BASICALLY IT WOULD BE THE NEW, THE NEW START.
UM, MY SEC, MY OTHER ONE WAS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT, UM, PICTURE WHERE THE GUY WAS AT THE, THE, THERE, THAT ONE? MM-HMM
SO JUST TO, UM, YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UM, THAT'S A 54 INCH TREE AROUND, AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED RIGHT? PER INCH, SO THE, THE, THE BREAST HEIGHT IS THAT 54 INCH.
RIGHT? SO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEASURING THE CIRCUMFERENCE OF THE TREE AT 54 INCHES HIGH TO THEN CALCULATE WHAT THE DIAMETER IS.
SO THEN IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER INCH, RIGHT, SO THAT'S $5,400? NO, NO, NO, NO.
SO IT'S PROBABLY 10 OR 12 INCHES.
JUST LOOKING AT THE TREE, THAT WAS JUST A CUTE LITTLE DESCRIP.
IT IS A DESCRIPTION THAT'S, I DIDN'T DO ALL OF THAT.
SO ONE OF MY GOOD STAFF PUT THAT LIKE THE VICE MAN.
BUT JUST SORT OF SHOWING, PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT DBH STANDS FOR.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT, 54 INCHES IS THE TECHNICAL MEANING OF THAT DOESN'T MATTER HOW TALL YOU ARE.
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THAT'S JUST SO THAT YOU DON'T MEASURE WAY UP HERE WHERE YOU'RE TALL IS SKINNY OR YOUR TREE IS SKINNIER, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T MEASURE DOWN AT THE, HOW HIGH YOU ARE BASE ANYWAY.ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MS. DIMMER? SEEING NONE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SIGN SHEETS? WE DO NOT.
I'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL.
WHAT IS VICE MAYOR? ALRIGHT, MS. BASSETT, I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 19 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS, CONTAINED THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT, UH, OF, I'M SORRY, MOTION BY MS. UH, COUNCILMAN BASSETT.
ALRIGHT, ITEM 18, WE HAVE BOARD APPOINTMENTS.
THERE IS ONE VACANCY ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE ONE INTERESTED APPLICANT.
SHE WOULD QUALIFY TO SERVE AS A CITIZEN, CITIZEN WHO'S ACTIVELY ENGAGED AS A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL IN CONNECTION WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO APPOINT ALICIA STALLINGS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTION FOR MR. MCEWEN? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
I NOMINATE ALICIA, I SECOND, I'VE GOT A NOMINATION BY COUNCILMAN LARUSSO.
A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN AM BASSETT.
ON THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD, THERE'S ONE ALTERNATE MEMBER VACANCY AND WE HAVE TWO OUTSIDE APPLICATIONS ON FILE.
ONE FROM TYRONE BRYAN AND ONE FROM STEVEN NEWMAN.
SO THE REQUESTED ACTION WOULD BE TO APPOINT ONE OF THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUALS AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER.
SO FOLLOWING YOUR NORMAL PRACTICE, IT WOULD BE OPENING THE FLOOR NOMINATIONS AND IF ONLY ONE OF THOSE TWO NAMES IS NOMINATED, THEN YOU WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT THAT PERSON.
IF BOTH INDIVIDUALS ARE NOMINATED, WE'LL JUST DO A ROLL CALL VOTE AND THE PERSON WITH THE MOST VOTES WILL BE APPOINTED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCEWEN? I GOT ONE.
UM, COUNCILMAN LOU RUSO, UH, WHO WAS THE EARLIEST APPLICANT? UH, MR. BRIAN SUBMITTED HIS APPLICATION ON JANUARY 24TH AND MR. NEWMAN ON FEBRUARY 10TH.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCEWEN? SEEING NONE, COUNSEL, IT'S YOUR PLEASURE.
WE HAVE TO NOMINATE 'EM BOTH, RIGHT? AND THEN VOTE.
I NOM WANT US TO MAKE A NOMINATION.
I HAVE A NOMINATION FOR STEVE NEWMAN.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? UH, WHAT'S I'M LOOKING FOR THE OTHER GENTLEMAN.
I HAVE TWO, UH, COUNCILMAN SMITH NOMINATED MR. TYRONE.
UH, KEVIN, I DON'T THINK I NEED SECONDS ON THOSE.
DO WE CLOSE NOMINATIONS? HERE YOU GO.
SO, ME, MS. KENNEDY, CAN I JUST HAVE, UM, A QUESTION? 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WERE THESE TWO.
IS THERE A REASON I'M GONNA POINT IT OUT TO BOTH.
LET'S GO CROWN COUNCIL MEMBERS AS TO WHY YOU NOMINATED EACH.
I'LL GO MS. WILEY FIRST, AND THEN MR. SMITH.
UM, MR. UM, THE FIRST ONE, MR. MR. BRIAN.
AND, UM, I JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE HE'S FROM THE, HE HASN'T GOTTEN SET IN THE CITY LONG ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
AND I MEAN, HE, HE JUST, YOU KNOW, HE JUST DOESN'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HASN'T BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO GET THE WHOLE GIST OF THE CITY.
JUST THE LONGEVITY OF THE BEING IN THE CITY.
AND THEN MR. NEWMAN WAS BORN IN THE FLO IN THE AIR, IN THE FLORIDA AREA, IN THE TAMPA TO ORLANDO.
LIVED IN FLORIDA AND BEACH BEEN GROWN UP IN THE AREA.
SO HE KIND OF KNOWS THE, THE AREA.
I, UH, LOOKING AT MR. BRIAN'S, UH, RESUME, UH, NUMBER ONE DUE PROCESS, THE, UH, IT'S ALWAYS ENCOURAGING WHEN WE HAVE CITY RESIDENTS THAT ARE GONNA APPLY FOR THESE BOARDS.
AND I WAS GONNA ASK SOMETHING ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL VACANCIES, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AFTERWARDS.
SO I WANTED TO DUE PROCESS, HE, HE APPLIED, SO I THINK THAT HE SHOULD BE NOMINATED NOW LOOKING AT HIS RESUME, THE SIX PAGE RESUME, HE HAS QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE.
MAYBE NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, BUT, UH, MASTER'S, BACHELOR'S, MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR.
SO I JUST THINK THAT JUDGING OFF THE RESUME, I THINK THAT THIS EXPERIENCE LENDS ITSELF TO, UH, ANY PROCESS THAT WE MAY HAVE OR ANY BOARD THAT WE MAY HAVE FOR THE CITY.
SO, OUTTA CURIOSITY, ARE EITHER OF THE CANDIDATES HERE TODAY? IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE.
WELL, DO WE HAVE TO DO A, OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR YOU TO DO IT OR IF I DO IT.
WE'LL START WITH LADIES FIRST.
COUNCILMAN KENNEDY, YOU REFER, LET'S GO.
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I'M GONNA GO WITH, UH, TYRONE BRIAN.UM, HOW CAN I NOT VOTE FOR A GUY THAT WENT TO WALLA WALLA UNIVERSITY? I'M GONNA GO WITH BRIAN.
AND I'LL VOTE COUNCILMAN OR I'LL VOTE BRIAN.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, BRIAN.
MOVING ON TO PETITIONS OR MON AND COMMUNICATIONS.
WE'LL START WITH COUNCILWOMAN BASSETT.
UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING.
UM, OUR FAMILY WAS HIT HARD WITH, UH, FLU SEASON.
SO EVERYBODY'S SICK IN MY HOUSE, SO I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY, WASH YOUR HANDS, COVER YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU COUGH.
LET'S TRY TO ELIMINATE FLU SEASON.
UM, YEAH, I WAS HOPING THAT I, BEFORE, BEFORE I'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, BABCOCK RANCH AND THAT'S THE VERY HARDENED OVER IN THE WEST COAST, THAT WHEN THE STORMS GO THROUGH NOTHING, THEY ONLY GET A FEW PALM FRONTS.
AND I STILL WOULD LIKE OUR CITY, UPPER STAFF MANAGEMENT GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO, WHAT THEY DON'T DO.
MR. ENNIS
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO ON A FIELD TRIP AND MAYBE, UM, MS. DETMER TO GO OVER THERE AND MAYBE JENNY OUR, OUR OLD CITY ENGINEER, TO GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO SO THAT MAYBE WE DON'T, WE CAN'T IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A PLANNED COMMUNITY AND IT'S A NEW COMMUNITY.
BUT WE CAN DO THINGS TO HELP OUR CITIZENS HERE KEEP THEIR, UM, INSURANCES LOW.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG THING.
MAYBE IT COSTS ONE THING UPFRONT, BUT THE LONG TERM, KEEPING OUR INSURANCE RATES LOW.
UM, THE OTHER ONE IS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S LOOKED, IF YOU'VE HAD TIME.
YOU'VE BEEN A LITTLE BUSY MISS UH, LA LAMB LATELY.
OH, WE'RE WORKING YOU TOO HARD.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY.
YOU KNOW, SHE'S SURPRISED SHE HASN'T GONE GRAY YET.
UM, IF WE CAN LOOK AT UNDERGROUND UTILITIES WITH FPL, WE DID RECEIVE AN INITIAL REPORT.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, I'M SORRY.
WE DID RECEIVE AN INITIAL REPORT FROM FPL THAT THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN DOING THE AREA, BUT I WANTED TO PURSUE THAT A LITTLE FURTHER.
SO, I MEAN, THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE DONE EVERYWHERE AROUND US.
WHY, WHY ARE WE THIS REDHEADED STEPCHILD? THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW.
THEY DID OVER, THEY DID OVER ON THE WEST COAST AND I'M, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ISLAND IT WAS.
THEY, THEY DID DO UNDERGROUND IN THE WHOLE ISLAND.
I WANNA SAY SANIBEL, BUT THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ISLAND.
AND WHEN THE LAST HURRICANE HELENE WAS THE LAST ONE WE WENT THROUGH, GOD KNOWS, I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE HURRICANE WAS HER, WAS HELENE THE LAST ONE? LAST FALL? YES.
THEIR, EVEN THOUGH THEIR ISLAND WAS, THEIR UTILITIES WERE UP WITHIN THREE DAYS, BUT IF YOU WERE ON MAINLAND THAT THEY HADN'T DONE ANYTHING ON THE MAINLAND.
IT TOOK THEM EIGHT DAYS TO GET UTILITIES UP.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN TODAY OR TOMORROW, BUT I'M LOOKING AT A LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, EIGHT YEARS OUT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GET THAT TYPE OF SITUATION DONE.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT.
IT'S GONNA HAPPEN TODAY OR TOMORROW.
I, IT'S GONNA BE A LONG TERM, BUT IT WOULD HELP US LOOK INTO IT.
I, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, OVER THE WEEKEND I WAS IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE, UM, QUITE OFTEN.
UH, MY BROTHER GOT MARRIED RECENTLY AT THE HOTEL MELBY AND THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB OVER THERE.
SO JUST WANNA PUT A LITTLE PLUG IN FOR THE HOTEL MELBY.
THEY DID AN, AN AMAZING JOB AND I HAD A LOT OF FUN.
COUNCILMAN SMITH? I, I ATTENDED THE ST.
PATRICK'S DAY EVENTS DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE.
UM, AND I, I WAS ABLE TO PARK IN THE, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL DESIGNATE AREAS, BUT I ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A, A, A BUSINESS THAT WAS THERE.
AND I ACTUALLY TOOK A PHOTO AND I, I, I DIDN'T KNOW.
UH, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY CHARGING, I GUESS, OTHER FOLKS THAT WERE ATTENDING THE EVENT.
SO I WAS JUST A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
I DID, UH, HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO SOME OF THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WAS WORKING.
PATRICK'S WAS A WONDERFUL, VERY CROWDED EVENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, AS FAR AS WHAT DISNEY'S DID THAT TWO STAGES.
UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THAT, THAT ACTIVITY FOR THE PARKING.
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ANY YEP.JENNY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE BEST TO ANSWER THIS IS, BUT FOR LARGE SCALE EVENTS LIKE THAT, NOT PARADES, WE DO CHARGE FOR PARKING IN THE, IN THE GARAGE AND IN THE SURFACE LOTS.
AND, UM, WE DID SEND AN EMAIL OUT TO COUNCIL PRIOR TO JUST, YOU KNOW, BE AWARE THAT SPOTS MAY BE TAKEN, BUT CINDY CAN ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE ON WHAT EVENTS.
THO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY YOUR LARGER EVENTS IN, IN DOWNTOWN.
UM, ANY MORE, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY FOUR OR SO A YEAR MAYBE.
UM, BUT WE HAVE A, A CONTRACT WITH A, UM, PARKING MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT COMES IN AND BASICALLY IT'S TYPICALLY OUR, YOU KNOW, GARAGE AND CITY LOT HERE.
UM, DEPENDING ON THE EVENT AND LOCATION, IT CAN BE OTHER CITY LOTS AS WELL.
UH, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, UM, AS, AS LONG AS WE'VE BEEN IN, IN THIS BUILDING DURING SPECIAL EVENTS.
SO IS THAT FUNDING COMING BACK TO THE CITY OR THE, THE CONTRACT? IT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR ANY MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, AND COST.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SPLIT THE REVENUE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THE CONTRACTOR.
SO, UM, IT'S TYPICALLY, UM, BEEN AROUND $20,000 A YEAR AT THE MOST THAT WE SEE.
AND JUST OUR AWARENESS OF WHAT, OF WHAT IT IS, SO MM-HMM
NO, THAT, UH, AND THEN, UH, VICE MAYOR, I ALSO CAME BACK FROM THE TALLAHASSEE TRIP.
UH, WENT TO THE ADVOCACY WITH THE, UM, THE COUNCIL.
IT WAS ALL OF THE, NOT COUNCIL, BUT ALL THE CHAMBERS.
UH, SO THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
ENDED UP BEING KNOWN AS THE CRA ADVOCATE FOR THE ENTIRE EVENT.
SO, UH, WE'RE SORT OF WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT, THAT VOTE WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN I WANNA BRING UP A POINT ABOUT THE BREVARD RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH THAT.
AND, UH, AND JUST SORT OF FIND OUT, WENT THE STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL, I THINK YOU WENT TO THE, THE REWARD RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL ITSELF.
BUT I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AND I'M VERY INTERESTED AND I WOULD LIKE TO, WITH AS COUNCIL, WE CONSIDER MAYBE HAVING A 12, MAYBE A 12 MONTH PERIOD TO ALLOW THAT DEVELOPMENT.
BUT ACTIVITIES COULD STILL HAPPEN.
BUT, BUT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE FIGURED OUT.
BUT I DON'T WANT THAT TO STALL OUT AND NOT HAVE ANY ACTIVITIES THERE BECAUSE, UH, PETER HAS PUT A LOT INTO THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT PROPERTY.
AND, UH, AND I THINK HE HAD, THERE'S IDEAS FOR OTHER EVENTS THAT COULD HAPPEN AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE EVEN WE AS A COUNCIL MAY WANT TO SEE.
COUNTRY CONCERTS, OTHER CONCERTS, OTHER FESTIVALS.
SO, UH, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GET STALLED OUT.
WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A LEASE AGREEMENT IN PLACE AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON PARTICULAR THINGS, IT WAS ONLY LIMITED TO REALLY ONE EVENT AND WE WENT THE EXTRA MILE ON THE OTHER ONE.
BUT MS. LAMB, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THIS PARTICULAR, YOU HAVE COUNSEL WITH HANDS UP, BUT I WILL BE WILLING TO SPEAK WHERE? WHENEVER YOU WANT ME TO.
I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM THAT.
A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES, THE RESTAURANT BUSINESSES DO NOT WANT IT THERE.
THEY WERE NOT HAVING, WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN THEY HAVE THE RENAISSANCE THERE AND THEY HAD STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL, THEIR REVENUES WENT DOWN AND THEY DON'T WANT IT.
SO YOU'RE PUSHING FOR SOMETHING.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BUSINESSES OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT IT, THAT IT'S INFECTED, THAT IS EFFECTIVE WITH THAT.
I, I WISH YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AND JUST NOT SAY, OH, THIS IS GREAT.
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, I MEAN, YOU WENT INTO SOME OF THOSE RESTAURANTS THAT THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY.
AND IT'S SEASON, THIS IS THE TIME THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE SUMMER.
AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE EMPTY.
AND THEY KNOW THEY'RE EMPTY BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO GO OVER THERE WITH THE TRAFFIC.
AND, UM, THE FESTIVAL'S RIGHT THERE THAT IT TAKES AWAY FROM THEIR BUSINESSES.
AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO PAY YOUR BILLS.
BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I I, MR. SMITH, I DISAGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I DEAL WITH THEM.
THEY'RE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE MY NEIGHBORS.
AND THEY TELL ME, SO FROM THE VIVAR RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL, WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT CAME INTO THE CITY, HOTELS, OTHER RESTAURANTS, I MEAN, I MEAN, SO YOU CAN'T JUST, I MEAN, I, I HEAR YOU AND I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT THIS IS STILL A NEW CONCEPT.
SO IF WE STALL IT OUT, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA EVER SEE IF IT'S ANY VIABILITY AT ALL.
SO MAYBE JUST MARKETING FOR THOSE RESTAURANTS, MAYBE DOING SOMETHING AS INCENTIVE, HOW GONNA A MARKET, HOW ARE YOU GONNA MARKET THAT? YOUR MIC IS OFF? HOW ARE YOU GONNA MARKET WHEN IT'S A PRIVATE BUSINESS? WE ARE NOT IN THAT, WE'RE NOT THE CITY TO BE THEIR MARKETERS.
AND THEN I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD AND LET'S MOVE IT ON TO SOMETHING ELSE HERE.
SO WHEN YOU, WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT MARKETING, IF, IF PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON IN THE LOCATION, THIS IS STILL BRAND NEW.
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SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME IMPACTS, BUT IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S GONNA BE A VIABLE, THEN WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING WITH IT.'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING ON.
AND WE TALK ABOUT WHEN, WHEN PETER WAS HERE AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE AREA, JUST BBAR RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL ALONE.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT CAME TO THE CITY IN THIS AREA.
A ANY OTHER UPDATES? MR. OH, JENNY, DID YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE? I JUST WANTED TO ASK OR WANTED TO, TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CONSENSUS OR NOT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, SO STAFF HAS PUT MR. MUHA IN.
I THINK THAT'S HOW, I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU YEAH.
THE RENAISSANCE FAIR, UM, PROMOTER, WE PUT HIM ON NOTICE THAT IT WAS THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS INCORRECT AND THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH SOME PROCESS THAT WE CONSIDER THEM A TEMPORARY USE.
AND I, I BELIEVE I COPIED ALL OF OF COUNSEL ON THAT EMAIL THAT I, YOU KNOW, REMINDED THE COUNTY OF THAT AND, UM, PETER OF THAT.
AND SO AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE ASKING IF WE CAN EITHER DELAY THAT PROCESS OR ALLOW HIM TO HAVE EVENTS AS HE GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? RIGHT.
ALLOW HIM TO HAVE EVENTS WHILE WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND PARALLEL ASKING FOR A 12 MONTH ALLOWANCE OF THAT.
I'M SAYING I'M GLAD I CLARIFIED THAT.
I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.
SO HE DOES THE RENAISSANCE FAIR, RIGHT? DOES HE DOES OTHER, OTHER FESTIVALS AS WELL? OTHER THAN JUST HE DID THE STRAWBERRY FEST UNDER HALF.
'CAUSE WE VOTED ON THE STRAWBERRY FEST.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE ARE DOING SOMETHING NEW, LIKE ANYTHING, ANYTIME SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING, WE FIND LITTLE THINGS THAT MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE AND BE TWEAKED MM-HMM
SO AS WE LEARN ABOUT MAYBE BUSINESSES NOT HAVING, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH REVENUE RIGHT AROUND THERE, MAYBE WE JUST DIVERT TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT SO THAT NOT TO, UM, IMPACT THOSE BUSINESSES.
I MEAN, I THINK YOUR POINT, MS. HANLEY IS VERY VALID IN THAT LET'S NOT IMPACT THOSE BUSINESSES AS MUCH AS WE DON'T HAVE TO IMPACT THOSE BUSINESSES.
UM, OR WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? I AND IF THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEN THE, THE PEOPLE WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS GET NOTIFIED THERE'S PUBLIC HEARINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET, UM, THE APPROPRIATE APPROVALS IN ORDER TO HAVE EVENTS ON THAT SITE.
AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WHERE THE PUBLIC WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INPUT.
NOW THEY'RE ALREADY CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH, YOU SENT THIS EMAIL OUT, I RECALL YOU SENDING IT AND READING IT.
UM, THEY'RE, ARE THEY CURRENTLY PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCESS THAT YOU STARTED OR WHERE ARE THEY AT IN THAT PART? THEY HAVEN'T STARTED IT YET, BUT WE HAVE A MEETING, I THINK ON FRIDAY.
THAT I'M GOING OFF MEMORY, BUT IF IT'S NOT FRIDAY, IT'S EARLY NEXT WEEK MM-HMM
THAT WE HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS AND GO SORT OF GO LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM OF WHAT WAS IN THAT EMAIL YEAH.
SO, SO MORE IS IT COOL IF WE BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING AND SEE HOW THAT MEETING WENT WITH, WITH THOSE GUYS? I, I THINK THAT THE, THE PROCESS IS ALREADY SORT OF, WE KNOW, WE KNOW HE'S GONNA NEED THE TIME ANYWAY MM-HMM
SO, UH, I THINK ASKING FOR 12 MONTHS, AND I, AND I LOVE WHAT, UH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN KENNEDY JUST SAID.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A NEW PROCESS.
SO WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT MARK, I'M TALKING ABOUT LETTING THE FOLKS KNOW AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE THEM.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVITY, WE DON'T, WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WAYS TO IMPROVE THE, HAVE AN ACTIVITY ALSO THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
SO I THINK THAT WE ALLOW 12 MONTHS TO FIGURE IT OUT SAME TIME.
ADAM? I, I JUST, I I WILL SAY GENERALLY THAT SITE USE AND DEVELOPMENT THROUGH SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING IS NOT IDEAL.
AND SO A 12 MONTH LEEWAY TO THEN START REGULARLY USING AND DEVELOP A SITE OUTSIDE OF OUR STANDARD ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, I DON'T RECOMMEND, UM, A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME WHILE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, MR. MULHOUSE IN'S LEASE WITH THE COUNTY WAS LIMITED TO BOTH BREVARD RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL MM-HMM
SO AT, AT, AT THE TI AT THIS TIME, THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER, UH, ALLOWABLE EVENTS.
I THINK COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND THE REST OF STAFF WOULD TELL YOU THAT CONTINUING TO ALLOW THAT USE AND HAVE IT BE MORE REGULAR.
IF, IF THE COUNTY ALL OF A SUDDEN CAME BACK WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THAT GROUND LEASE AND SAID YOU CAN HAVE AN EVENT EVERY WEEKEND, EVERY DAY, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND MR. MOHEN CAME IN AND SAID, I WANNA DO A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FOR EVERY SINGLE DAY
AND, AND THE REGULAR USE OF THAT SITE IS MORE APPROPRIATELY DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY INPUT, THE NOTICE THAT WOULD GO OUT AND OTHER THINGS AS GOING THROUGH THE NORMAL ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION PROCESS
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FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS UNDERSTAND AND CAN GIVE INPUT ON THE IMPACTS TO THE, THE SITE AS OUTDOOR RECREATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE ITSELF IS MEETING NECESSARY STANDARDS FOR, I MEAN, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING APARTMENT SPENT AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO GET MR. MOHA IN PLACE FOR EVEN THE TEMPORARY USE FOR BREVARD RENAISSANCE FEST AND, AND STRAWBERRY FEST.AND SO IF THERE WERE GONNA BE MORE EVENTS OR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND OTHER THINGS, THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES ARE JUST GOING TO KEEP, KEEP COMING UP.
SO JUST GENERALLY, I DO NOT RECOMMEND COUNCIL SAYING, YES, LET'S DO, LET'S ALLOW A SITE USE AND DEVELOPMENT THROUGH SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
'CAUSE THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT EVERY VACANT PROPERTY OWNER IS GONNA WANT TO TRY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UM, IN, IN THE CITY.
WELL, AND THERE'S, AND AS, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING, THERE'S ALSO, IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN JUST THAT IT'S NOT EVEN OUR LAND AND THERE'S A LOT MORE GOING ON THERE RIGHT NOW WITH HIM IN THE COUNTY.
SO, UM, I SAID NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO SHOOT DOWN YOUR IDEA, UM, COUNCILMAN, IT'S MORE SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT GOES THROUGH A CERTAIN PROCESS.
BUT I, I, UM, SYMPATHIZE WITH YOUR POINT THAT THERE COULD BE SOME, I MEAN, THE COUNTY SORT, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE ENDED UP IN THIS POSITION, BUT WE'RE IN IT.
AND IT WASN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, SO NOW DO WE JUST SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE I, I THINK THE COUNTY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS HAPPEN TO, EVEN BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, THAT THEY GRANTED HIM A ONE YEAR USE MM-HMM
A, A ONE, A ONE YEAR GROUND LEASE FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF HOLDING BREVARD BREVARD RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL.
AND THEN THEY DID AN AMENDMENT, MR. MOAN WENT TO THE COUNTY AND THEY DID AN AMENDMENT TO THAT GROUND LEASE THEN FOR STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL.
SO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE ARE NO OTHER AUTHORIZED EVENTS THAT THE COUNTY HAS SAID CAN BE, THAT SITE CAN BE USED FOR RIGHT NOW.
NOW AGAIN, THEY ALREADY DID ONE AMENDMENT, THEY MAY DO ANOTHER.
BUT AGAIN, FROM THE CITY'S, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FOR, UH, I WON'T SPEAK ENTIRELY ON JENNY'S BEHALF, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, AGAIN, THE SOMEONE COMING IN AND SAYING, I WANT TO USE A VACANT SITE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, LIKE DOING THAT ON A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT BASIS, IS I WOULD CALL AN OBFUSCATION OF OUR ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REG PROCESS.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO, TO SAY SOMETHING PERFECT.
ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS? COUNCILMAN SMITH? NO.
PATRICK'S DAY PARADE WITH, UM, MY, UH, TWO GRANDCHILDREN.
WE WERE WALKING, WE WERE GOING DOWN THE, THE FIRST SIDE STREET AND IT WAS SPARSELY, UM, UH, UH, PARTICIPATED WITH.
AND THEN WE MADE THAT TURN ONTO NEW HAVEN.
AND IT WAS 50 DEEP ON EACH SIDE.
AND I, AND I BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY, A VENDOR OUT THERE SOLD THE SAME COLOR SHIRT TO EACH AND EVERYBODY.
THERE WAS NO VARIABLES UNDER THE GREEN.
IT WAS, IT WAS A SEA OF GREEN.
IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS A REALLY COOL EVENT.
I MEAN, I, IT WAS A GREAT, UH, UH, GREAT PARADE MENTION.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, UH, YOU ALL, UM, UH, WELCOMING MY GRANDCHILDREN ON, ON THE, ON THE TRUCK.
I, THAT, THAT WAS REALLY COOL.
UM, KEVIN, YOU SEE THAT GUY, YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID FOR US TODAY? HE GAVE US $9 MILLION.
HE DID MISS SLAM AND I, UH, UH, ATTENDED THE, UH, UH, GOVERNOR'S BRIEFING THIS MORNING AT THE TOM MOREHOUSE LAGOON HOUSE, I THINK IT'S CALLED.
LET ME READ IT TO YOU BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T DESCRIBE IT TOO MUCH.
SO, UH, TODAY, GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS ANNOUNCED THAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE HAS BEEN AWARDED MORE THAN 9 MILLION IN INDIAN RIVER LAGOON PROJECT PROGRAM, UH, FOR TWO PROJECTS.
FIRST ONE, 8.6 MILLION WILL GO TOWARD, WHICH IS A GRANT.
AND WE'VE RECEIVED THAT GRANT, UH, 8.6 MILLION WILL GO TOWARD PROJECT TO IMPROVE WASTEWATER, UH, TREATMENT AT THE GRANT STREET WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.
IT REMOVES THE, UH, HELPS TO REMOVE THE NUTRIENTS, UH, FROM THE CITY'S RECLAIMED WATER DISTRIBUTION AND, AND SO ON.
AND FOR OUTDOOR LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION, THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER FOR US.
UH, 8.6 IS A LOT OF MONEY TO GET FROM THAT MAN, YOU KNOW, BUT HE'S ON A, HE, HE'S ON THE WATER TOUR RIGHT NOW.
HE'S, HE'S GOT LIKE 550 MILLION BUCKS IN HIS POCKET AND SESSION ISN'T OVER YET.
SO ALL OF THE MONIES HAVE NOT BEEN APPROPRIATED YET.
SO WE STILL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED ON SOME OTHER THINGS.
SO IT WAS VERY, VERY COOL TO HEAR THAT.
THE SECOND ONE WAS $691,909 HAS ALSO BEEN DESIGNATED TO THE CITY'S RIVER VIEW BAFFLE BOX, UH, PROJECT.
ONCE CONSTRUCTED THE, AND OPERATIONAL, THIS BAFFLE BOX WILL REMOVE DEBRIS AND OTHER POLLUTANTS FROM STORM WATER THAT IS CURRENTLY DRAINING DIRECTLY INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.
THIS PROJECT IS PART OF A LARGER EFFORT TO CONSTRUCT BAFFLE BOXES IN THE OLDER PARTS OF CITY OF MELBOURNE.
WE KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR, FOR YEARS NOW.
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE NOW? MAYBE.
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RIGHT.THAT'S ENOUGH OF MR. UH, UH, DESANTIS OR GOVERNOR DESANTIS, BUT HE, BUT HE WAS VERY, UH, UH, UH, VERY FORTHCOMING ON, ON MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES.
AND I, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ WHATEVER YOU CAN OR, OR SEE WHATEVER YOU CAN ON, ON YOUTUBE OR WHATEVER.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE CAME TOGETHER A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND WE AS A COUNCIL, DETERMINED THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO LOBBY TALLAHASSEE FOR ANYTHING BUT WATER, WATER PROJECTS.
WE LIVE ON THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, BASICALLY OUR, OUR OUR WITH THE HARBOR CITY.
SO WITH YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR GUIDANCE AS A CO AS A MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING THESE GREAT FEATS OF BRINGING THAT MONEY INTO BACK, THAT TAX MONEY BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR SUPPORTING THAT, SUPPORTING THE LOBBYISTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE HE'S KILLING IT UP THERE RIGHT NOW.
YOU, YOU, YOU SAW HIM THIS PAST WEEKEND.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA SAY.
AND I WANTED TO THANK MR. LAMB FOR JOINING ME.
UH, UH, MR. NEWMAN WAS OUT OF TOWN, WAS, UH, UNABLE TO DO IT.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT PAUL IS SOMEWHERE, I DON'T KNOW, NORTH POLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, UH, THANK YOU MR. LAMB FOR, FOR JOINING ME AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, UH, UH, REACHING OUT AND TOUCHING ME BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS A DYNAMIC EVENT.
CAN I EXPAND JUST SLIGHTLY ON THAT? YEAH, PLEASE.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT OUR GRANT STREET WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, IT'S OUR PHASE TWO OF THAT PROJECT.
AND TOM BAKER SPOKE ABOUT THAT PROJECT A LITTLE EARLIER TONIGHT.
BUT I DID WANNA MENTION THAT PART OF THAT GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS, WE DID USE OUR CON OUR CONSULTANT INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTION SERVICES ON HELPING US REFINE THAT GRANT PROCESS.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF WHY WE WERE SO SUCCESS OR WE HAD SUCH SUCCESS IN DOING SO.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE DESIGNING THE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND IT WAS, IT'S A TRUE HONOR.
WE HAD NO IDEA GOING INTO THE PRESS CONFERENCE IF WE HAD RECEIVED ANYTHING, IF IT WAS JUST A GOODWILL.
AND SO VERY EXCITING TO HEAR THAT TWO OF OUR FOUR PROJECTS HAD HAD RECEIVED THAT FUNDING.
AND SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNOR BROUGHT UP WAS HE'S TRYING TO GET EVEN MORE, UM, FUNDING AND I FORGET THE EXACT DOLLAR VALUE THAT HE SAID THAT HE WAS GONNA ALLOCATE TOWARDS THE, UM, INDIAN RIVER LAGOON PORTION OF THE FUNDING.
AND THIS PRESS AT THIS PRESS CONFERENCE, EVERYBODY IN THERE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE GOVERNOR WAS GONNA SAY.
NOBODY KNEW WE WERE ALL, I MEAN, I EVEN SPOKE WITH GREG PALONE FROM, UH, CHANNEL 13, AN OLD FRIEND.
AND HE SAID, I GOT NO CLUE WHAT HE'S GONNA SAY.
YOU KNOW, AND USUALLY THEY KNOW EVERYTHING.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE, IT WAS VERY SURPRISING.
SO, UM, I WANT TO THANK THE GOVERNOR PERSONALLY.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ALL I GOT.
AND THEN MY QUICK UPDATES, UH, THERE WAS A MEETING OF, UM, MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES AS WELL AS THE PCRC PRESIDENT WAS PRESENT, UM, LAST WEEK.
AND I ACTUALLY WANT TO GIVE MS. LAMB A VERY GREAT SHOUT OUT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THEY ASKED ME WERE RESOLVED IN A WALK, UH, THROUGH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU HAD JUST DONE.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER STAFF WERE WITH YOU.
MAYBE IT WAS JUST YOU, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RECOGNIZED 'CAUSE THEY'RE VERY HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT AND JUST REALLY JUST WAS, WAS FANTASTIC.
AND PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITY WERE THERE ALSO.
WELL, THEY WERE JUST, THEY WERE OVER THE MOON ABOUT THE ABILITY TO ENGINEERING.
I MISSED ENGINEERING, I NOTICED, DON'T WE? GOTCHA.
NEXT WEEK WE GOT, BUT, BUT YEAH, THAT'S IT.
UM, THEY MENTIONED A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, THAT YOU GUYS HAD ALL, ALL DISCUSSED PRIOR.
UH, WELL, UH, JUST IF YOU COULD KEEP ME IN THE LOOP ON SOME OF THOSE, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING MOVES FORWARD, THAT'D BE FANTASTIC.
UM, LIKE, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, LARUSSO SAID ME O'MALLEY'S HAD THEIR ST.
PATRICK'S DAY PARADE AND FESTIVITIES, AND THAT WAS JUST A REALLY SUCCESSFUL AND WONDERFUL EVENT.
I'M GRATEFUL FOR THEM FOR, FOR PUTTING THAT ON FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S ONE OF OUR BIG SIGNATURE EVENTS HERE IN TOWN.
UH, I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO, UH, REPRESENTATIVE MAYFIELD ABOUT OUR CRA, UH, ISSUES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, GOING ON IN LEGISLATION UP IN TALLAHASSEE, AS WELL AS TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, PROPERTY TAX PUSH THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
BUT I WANNA SAY, UH, COUNCILMAN LARUSSO BEAT ME TO HER FIRST
'CAUSE SHE TOLD ME, SHE'S LIKE, OH YEAH, I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN LARUSSO AND DON'T YOU WORRY, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FIGHTING FOR YOU.
SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR REACHING OUT TO HER.
AND DON'T SELL YOURSELF SHORE.
YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN DOING MORE THAN JUST HANGING OUT WITH THE GOVERNOR.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
UH, BUT I DID WANT TO, UM, PASS ON MY WELL WISHES TO HER AND HER FAMILY.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, HER FATHER HAD PASSED AWAY, I BELIEVE THIS PAST WEEK.
SO, UM, JUST WELL WISHES AND PRAYERS TO THEM AND HOPE THAT THEY FIND HEALING AND GRACE.
UM, AND THAT BEING SAID, I, LESLIE
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HAD A FRIEND THAT WAS IN TOWN FROM VIRGINIA.AND THE BEST THING THAT I LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT ARE DOWNTOWNS FROM FOLKS WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN.
AND HE WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAD, THE ACTIVITIES.
HE JUST HAD A GREAT TIME JUST COMING FROM, I WANNA SAY IT WAS LIKE NEWPORT NEWS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND JUST KMA.
HE'S LIKE, DAVE, YOU JUST HAVE SO MANY FOOD OPTIONS AND A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN.
I WISH THAT MY DOWNTOWN WAS LIKE THIS.
SO JUST WANNA SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING GOOD THINGS DOWN THERE AND LET'S KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK AND KEEP BUILDING UPON ALL THAT.
BUT UM, THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.
SO WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 8 56.