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THE FEBRUARY 25TH REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.BEFORE, BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, LEMME REVIEW, REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, AND SUBMIT THE COMPLETED FORM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, USE THE MICRO MICROPHONE AT THE ELECTOR ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT.
NEED TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, OR YOUR NAME AND CITY.
SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE BODY.
DO NOT ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY.
BE MINDFUL THE TIMER OF THE ELECTOR, AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT FOR YOUR SPEAKING TIME.
IN THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE, A PERSON WHO IS A LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME AS REASON, BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE A RECORD FOR THE COUNCIL.
ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS AND DISRESPECTFUL WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION.
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND AND TONIGHT WILL BE FROM, UH, FATHER SCOTT EY FROM THE HOLY NAME OF JESUS CATHOLIC CHURCH.
SO FATHER, GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INVITATION TO OFFER, UH, THE INVOCATION THIS EVENING.
LET US BEGIN WITH A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND LET US PRAY.
GOOD AND GRACIOUS GOD, CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR ALL THE GIFTS THAT YOU GIVE US, INCLUDING THE GIFT OF OUR LIVES, THE GIFT OF THIS DAY, THE GIFT OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER AND FREEDOM TO SERVE OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
WE ASK FOR CONTINUED HEALING UPON OUR WORLD AND, AND WE ASK FOR PEACE DURING THESE CHALLENGING TIMES.
IN SCRIPTURE, YOU HAVE SAID THAT CITIZENS OUGHT TO SUPPORT THE GOVERNING AUTHORITIES SINCE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED THEM TO PROMOTE PEACE, ORDER AND JUSTICE.
THEREFORE, WE PRAY FOR OUR MAYOR, FOR THE VARIOUS LEVELS OF CITY OFFICIALS, FOR ALL CIVIL SERVANTS, INCLUDING OUR DEDICATED POLICE, FIRE, AND RESCUE, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND IN PARTICULAR FOR THIS ASSEMBLED COUNCIL, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GRACIOUSLY GRANT THEM WISDOM TO GOVERN AMID THE CONFLICTING INTEREST AND ISSUES OF OUR TIMES, A SENSE OF THE WELFARE AND TRUE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE.
A KEEN THIRST FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, CONFIDENCE IN WHAT IS GOOD AND FITTING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY EVEN WHEN THERE IS HONEST DISAGREEMENT.
WE PRAY FOR THE AGENDA SET BEFORE THEM TODAY.
PLEASE GIVE THEM THE COURAGE LEAD WITH INTEGRITY AND TO ENACT POLICIES THAT WOULD BENEFIT ALL WHO LIVE AND WORK IN AND AROUND OUR BELOVED CITY OF MELBOURNE.
IN CONFIDENCE OF YOUR PROVIDENCE, WE PRAY.
PLEASE JOIN IT FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MOVING ON TO ROLL CALL MR. MCEWEN.
COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO, VICE MAYOR NEWMAN HERE.
MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR, PRO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
BRIAN FOR IRISH HERITAGE, AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.
DID HE NOT MAKE IT? DON'T MAKE ME TAKE THE HOLIDAY AWAY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO SAMANTHA NAZAR.
WHY NOT? I KNEW YOU'D BE HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW YOU GO AROUND THE, THE CITIES AND COUNTIES AND DO THIS.
YOU GOTTA ADMIT THIS IS THE BEST PLACE TO BE BESIDES PALM BAY, THE COUNTY.
I JUST WANNA GET THAT ON RECORD.
WELL, YOU'RE NOT LAST, BUT THE BEST IS ALWAYS MELBOURNE IS THE BEST.
WE'LL MAKE YOU COME BACK, OF COURSE.
WHEREAS HEMOPHILIA, UH, AND VON WILL, AND BREAD DISEASES ARE RARE DISORDERS OF WHICH YOUR BLOOD DOES NOT CLOT NORMALLY BECAUSE IT LACKS SUFFICIENT BLOOD CLOTTING PROTEINS OR CLOTTING FACTORS.
AND WHEREAS IN THE UNITED STATES, MORE THAN 20,000 IN INDIVIDUALS LIVE WITH RARE UNCURABLE BLEEDING DISORDERS WITH 6,000 OF THEM LIVING IN FLORIDA ALONE.
AND WHEREAS SYMPTOMS OF BLEEDING DISORDERS INCLUDES UNEXPLAINED AND EXCESSIVE BLEEDING, LARGE AND DEEP BRUISING, NOSE BLEEDS AND BLEEDING INTO JOINT MUSCLES AND SOFT, SOFT TISSUES.
AND WHEREAS THE BLEEDING DISORDERS FOUNDATION OF
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FLORIDA FOUNDED IN 1996 IS AN ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION.CREATED BE THE VOICE OF THE FLORIDA BLEEDING DISORDERS COMMUNITY.
AND WHERE THE BLEEDING DISORDER DISORDERS FOUNDATION OF FLORIDA'S MISSION IS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE BLEEDING DISORDER COMMUNITY THROUGH EDUCATION, REFERRAL SERVICES AND ADVOCACY.
AND BY ORGANIZING EVENTS TO RAISE THE NEED, UH, NEEDED FUNDING FOR RESEARCH AND SUPPORT SERVICES.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT I, PAUL OPRY, MAYOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE BOULEVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY RECLAIM MARCH, 2025 AS BLEEDING DISORDER AWARENESS MONTH.
AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THE BLEEDING DISORDERS COMMUNITY.
WHEN, IF MY HAND IS SEALED, THE CITY OF THIS 25TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2025, PAUL OPRY MAYOR.
SO, REAL QUICK, BEFORE I PRESENT THIS, I WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T BE SAYING IT, BUT YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER JUST PASSED AWAY AND THE WAY HE PASSED AWAY WAS HE COULDN'T STOP BLEEDING.
SO HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND REALLY, REALLY JUST KIND OF HIT HOME WHEN I SAW THIS.
BUT WHEN HE PASSED AWAY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, HE JUST STARTED BLEEDING.
HE COULDN'T, THEY COULDN'T STOP BLEEDING.
SO THAT IS A VERY SERIOUS, AND THEN I KIND OF FIGURED, I, I SAW THIS OFF, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW YOU COME BACK AND IT REALLY HIT ME AND SAID, WOW, THIS IS, THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT, BUT UNTIL IT HITS HOME, YOU UNDERSTAND.
WILL YOU SAY A FEW WORDS? SURE.
THANK YOU MAYOR A ALFRED AND COUNCIL.
I WILL BRAG ON LIVING IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
THIS IS OUR SEVENTH YEAR IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
IN PRESENTING THIS PROCLAMATION, UM, I AM A LIFELONG ADVOCATE.
MY SON'S, MY SON TYLER, HAS VON WILL.
LEBRON'S DISEASE MEDICATION IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
ONE DOSE OF MEDICATION IS $16,000.
WE LIVE IN BREVARD COUNTY, SO WE KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, A PARENT IN HERE THAT CAN AFFORD A $2,100 COPAY TWO TO THREE TIMES A MONTH.
UM, I AM A ADVOCATE AND A BATTLE FIGHTER FOR THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
IF ANYONE IN HERE HAD COVID, DIABETES, ASTHMA, ANYTHING IN HERE, YOU ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE LANGUAGE THAT IS, UH, DISCUSSED AS, AS FAR AS THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
'CAUSE IT DOES AFFECT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE HISTORY.
I WANT YOU TO GOOGLE WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE.
THE RICKY RAY LAW, THE RICKY RAY LAW, WAS PASSED BY THE EFFORTS OF THE BLEEDING DISORDER COMMUNITY DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE AIDS CRISIS.
IT IS A LAW THAT PROTECTS EVERY SINGLE BLOOD PRODUCT IN THE WORLD.
AND THAT WAS DONE HERE IN AMERICA.
20,000 PATIENTS WERE LOST DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE AIDS CRISIS.
AND THIS VERY SMALL COMMUNITY THAT WAS LEFT DECIDED TO FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE ENTIRE WORLD.
AND THANKS TO THAT LAW, NOWADAYS, EVERY BLOOD PRODUCT, PLASMA OR BLOOD PRODUCT DERIVATIVE THAT YOU MAY USE IS SAFE FOR USE BECAUSE OF THE FIGHT OF THAT PARTICULAR GENERATION OF HEMOPHILIACS.
AND I WANNA SAY IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS ALL OF MY EFFORTS.
'CAUSE I HAVE LONG TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH BREVARD COUNTY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND PAUL.
AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU HERE THAT WORK HERE BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT JUST ABOUT THESE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE SITTING UP HERE LOOKING NICE ON TUESDAY NIGHTS.
IT'S ALL THE PEOPLE DOWN HERE IN THE TRENCHES THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE GET WHAT WE NEED AND THAT OUR CONCERNS ARE HEARD.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF THIS EVENING, AND THANK YOU TO MAYOR ALFRED AND COUNCIL.
I AM HONORED TO CALL UP DETECTIVE WOLFGANG KERMER TO CELEBRATE AND HONOR HIS 30 YEAR ANNIVERSARY WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
UM, SO DETECTIVE WOLFGANG KERMER BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ON FEBRUARY 15TH, 1995.
HE WAS ASSIGNED AS A PATROL OFFICER WHERE HE WAS ABLE TO DRAW FROM HIS PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE AS A SECURITY POLICE SPECIALIST IN THE AIR FORCE.
HE WORKED IN COMMUNITY POLICING UNIT AND AS A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER.
HE WAS SELECTED AS A GENERAL CRIMES DETECTIVE IN 2006 WHERE HE INVESTIGATED PROPERTY CRIMES IN 2013, HE WAS SELECTED TO REPRESENT THE CITY ON THE BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ECONOMIC CRIMES TASK FORCE.
AND HE HAS SERVED AS A DEPUTIZED AGENT FOR OVER 12 YEARS NOW.
SO I ALSO FOUND OUT AS I WAS READING YOUR BIO, THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THE LONGEST SERVING MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT'S HONOR GUARD, SO I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN DOING THAT ALMOST YOUR ENTIRE TIME HERE.
UM, WOLFGANG ALSO SERVED WITH THE SWAT TEAM AND AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, AND HE FREQUENTLY SERVES AS SERGEANT AT ARMS HERE AT OUR VERY CITY COUNCIL, UH, OUR VERY OWN CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
UM, HE EARNED A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND
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A MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS ORGANIZATION SECURITY MANAGEMENT.HE'S A CERTIFIED FRAUD EXAMINER AND A MEMBER OF THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FINANCIAL CRIMES INVESTIGATORS.
SO HE IS JOINED TONIGHT BY HIS WIFE, JANINE JENINE.
AND THEN HE, WHEN HE'S NOT WORKING, HE ENJOYS WEIGHTLIFTING AND LONG DISTANCE RUNNING.
SO I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH HOW MUCH WE ARE.
WE, WE, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS AND WE ARE, UM, VERY HONORED AND HAPPY THAT YOU ARE WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
SO, AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING HIM WITH US.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL, YOU WERE MY FPO.
YOU WERE MY FIELD TRAINING OFFICER WHEN I WAS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
A LONG TIME, A LONG TIME AGO WHEN I SAID, MAN, THIS GUY'S TOO SQUARED AWAY FROM ME.
BUT
YOU'RE, YOU'RE AN AMAZING, UH, YOU'RE AMAZING PERSON.
UH, YOU'RE ALWAYS, YOU'RE STILL AMAZING OFFICER AND YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S AN, IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE YOU SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE THE BEST OF THE BEST.
AND, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS, UM, YOU'RE HALFWAY TO WHERE YOU
SO THAT'S ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, AND I WANNA THANK YOU.
WILL YOU SAY A FEW WORDS REAL QUICK? OH, BOY.
LAST TIME I LOOKED, UM, AT MY CLOCK ON THE WATCH, UH, I SAID, OH MY GOD, IT'S ONLY YEAR 12.
AND SO WE'RE COUNTING HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET, GET INTO THE DROP PROGRAM AND SUCH.
AND I BLANKED THEM BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
UM, SO, UM, IT'S AMAZING HOW THAT HAPPENS.
PEOPLE TELL YOU IT DRAGS ON, IT DRAGS ON, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT'S FLOWN BY.
UM, AND I'M GLAD I EXTENDED FOR THREE YEARS.
IT'LL BE AN HONOR TO WORK HERE.
WHAT YOU AGAIN, AND I'M MEAN NOW.
THANK YOU FOR THANKS FOR NOT HELPING ME OUT.
YEAH, LET'S DO A PICTURE WITH COUNCIL, IF THAT IS, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 11TH, 2025 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I, UM, AS FOR APPROVAL OF, UH, THE MINUTES FROM THE 20 FEBRUARY 11TH, FEBRUARY 14TH, I'M SORRY, 20, 25 MINUTES SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, SECOND BY MS. KENNEDYS.
MOVING ON TO CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, MS. LAMB.
UM, YES, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, I DID MENTION IN THERE ABOUT OUR GRANTS AND A COMMITTEE AND THE REVIEW OF THE ALI ARTS DISTRICT MAIN STREET REQUEST, UM, CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED WAS DETERMINED BY COUNCIL, BUT THE COMMITTEE, UM, HAD SOME, SOME QUESTIONS AND ONLY APPROVED THE $50,000 INSTEAD OF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO, I, I REALLY JUST WANTED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE STAFF STARTS DRAFTING THE AGREEMENT.
I, I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE COUNCIL STANDS WITH IT, AND I HATE TO DRAFT IT ONE WAY IF COUNCIL HAS OTHER IDEAS.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA.
YEAH, I, I HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH AND THEY JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
SO THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE A LITTLE, A SMALL PRESENTATION AS TO THE, UM, UH, THE REASONING BEHIND, UH, ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL 50,000.
SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT OF, UH, COUNCIL DISCUSSION NEXT TO THE NEXT AGENDA, SECOND, WE'LL DO SO.
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ELSE? THAT'S IT, MS. LAMB.AND MOVING ON, UH, TO PUBLIC COMMENT NUMBER SEVEN.
WE HAVE A COUPLE, UH, IT WILL BE OKAY.
YOU HAVE A COUPLE
LORETTA MEYER BEST AI, I DON'T KNOW.
FOLLOWED BY PETER M HELLO, MY NAME'S LORETTA MEYERS.
UM, I'M REPRESENTING A THOMAS CONSTRUCTION.
UM, WE WERE THE CONTRACTOR ON CRANE CREEK GOLF COURSE, THE GREENS AND DRIVING RANGE REPLACEMENT.
UM, WE CAME INTO A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU FOLKS AND OURSELVES.
WE HAVE COMPLETED THAT CONTRACT TO ITS COMPLETE FULL, THERE'S NO PROBLEMS WITH ANYTHING.
WE HAD A CHANGE ORDER THAT WAS DONE, AND THE CHANGE ORDER WAS DONE ON 9 26.
AND IT BASICALLY WAS, THERE WAS DIFFERENT, UM, SEEDS AND STUFF THAT THEY ADDED MORE OF.
AND LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING WAS DONE.
AND THEY BASICALLY, ON THIS CHANGE ORDER, SAID THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE AND COMPLETED AS OF SEPTEMBER 26TH.
WE HAVE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT AND FOUGHT AND PAPERWORK BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH, BUT THE DE THE DEPARTMENTS ARE YOUR PROBLEM, NOT OURS.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH YOU FOLKS THAT WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, EVERYTHING IS DECENTLY AND IN ORDER, WE HAVE, OUR RETAINAGE STILL HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN TO US.
WE HAVE REQUESTED IT, AND WE, WE HAVE NO IDEA.
WE JUST KEEP GETTING EITHER SILENCE OR SILENCED, OR IF WE DO TURN PAPERWORK IN, IT'S NOT DONE CORRECTLY.
THAT'S EVERY TWO WEEKS, 17 DAYS, WHATEVER.
LIKE I SAID, ALL THAT WE ARE DUE IS OUR RETAINAGE.
WE HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT IS WITH YOU FOLKS AS WELL, WITH THE ELECTRICAL PART OF THE GOLF CART BARN.
AND WE DON'T WANT THE REPEAT OF WHAT THIS ONE WAS.
WE WANT TO GET IN, GET OUT, GET PAID.
I'M SURE EVERYBODY HERE LIKES TO GO TO WORK, DO A GOOD JOB, GO HOME AND LOOK IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT AND SEE THEIR PAYCHECK.
WE HAVE
WE DELIVER THE PAPERWORK WITH WET SIGNATURES.
IT'S JUST AN EMAIL EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THAT SAYS, OKAY, WELL HOW ABOUT THIS? I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING OF THIS.
WHAT IF I ASSIGN IT TO CITY MANAGER? CAN WE GET THIS RESOLVED? I MEAN, I AND THE CITY, THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN ATTACHED ON ALL THE EMAILS OR A QUITE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE EMAILS.
WELL, UH, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS LOOKED AT AND RESOLVED.
AND THEN IF I'LL HAVE MS. LAMB, GO AHEAD.
UM, OUR CITY ENGINEERS SAYS, INDICATES THAT HE CAN COME UP AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS IF YOU WOULD LIKE HIM TO.
'CAUSE YEAH, 'CAUSE I WAS UNAWARE OF THIS, AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DROP ALL THIS ON YOU, BUT NO, YOU'RE FINE.
UM, YES, UH, WE HAVE HAD SOME SUBSTANTIAL PROBLEMS WITH THE PAPERWORK SUBMITTED FOR FINAL PAYMENT.
I, I DO WANT TO STATE, LIKE WE DO WANT TO GET PROJECTS PAID OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE DON'T WANNA KEEP THEM ON OUR BOOKS ANY LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO.
HOWEVER, WE DO REQUIRE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION FOR WHEN WE ISSUE PAYMENTS.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, WE COULD BE SUBJECT TO AUDIT, IT COULD LEAD TO OTHER MAJOR FINANCIAL ISSUES, UH, FOR THE CITY.
UH, SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND WE DO TRY TO WORK WITH CONTRACTORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE.
UH, WE DID HAVE SOME SUBSTANTIAL BACK AND FORTH WITH THIS CONTRACTOR REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
UH, WE DID RESOLVE THE ISSUES.
THE FINAL PAYMENT HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED, AND THE CHECK RUN IS SCHEDULED TO GO ON THE 27TH OF THIS MONTH.
SO EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CLOSED OUT.
FINAL PAYMENT HAS BEEN ISSUED.
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UH, WE'RE BASICALLY JUST WAITING ON THE CHECK RUN TO COME OUT FROM OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.UH, BUT I, I WILL SAY THERE, YOU KNOW, WE DO REQUIRE PAPERWORK TO BE CORRECT.
IF WE DON'T HAVE CORRECT PAPERWORK, WE CAN'T ISSUE OR SPEND THE CITY'S MONEY WELL AND RESPONSIBLY.
AND, AND WHAT, WHAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE HAPPENS IS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT HAS TO GET DONE.
IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE CORRECTED, THAT IT'S CORRECTED AND THEY'RE WALK THROUGH.
BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU AS BEING A CONTRACTOR MYSELF, SOMETIMES DEALING WITH DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
UH, AND A LOT OF TIMES, AGAIN, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE GOVERNMENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO WORK, YOU CHECK YOUR EMAIL, DO YOUR WORK, YOU GO HOME.
I MEAN, IT NOT, IT'S, IT'S DAYLIGHT TILL DARK AND THEY GOT BILLS DUE AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT IT, I APPRECIATE ONE THING THAT OUR COUNCILS DISCUSSED IS TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO BID ON JOBS.
UH, JUST IF WE COULD, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'VE, THAT, THAT, THAT THEY, IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH THE WAY THEY DO THEIR PAPERWORK, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ASSIST THEM AND BECAUSE YOU ARE CORRECT.
AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH JAC AUDIT, I'VE CALLED FOR THEM AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, WE, EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE DEAL WITH OUR AUDITORS AS WELL.
SO HOPEFULLY WE GET THIS RESOLVED.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE PAYMENTS RESOLVED.
AND IS THAT PAYMENT IN FULL? YES, SIR.
AND RORY, WHEN HE WAS STILL HERE, BEFORE HE WAS RETIRING, HAD HAD PUT INTO PLACE THAT IT WAS IT WAS DONE.
AND WELL, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT RESOLVED.
AND HERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SIX MONTHS LATER.
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT, IT'S RESOLVED NOW, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND YES, MA'AM, WE HAVE DONE OTHER JOBS, PLENTY OTHER JOBS FOR YOU AND YEAH.
HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS, BUT, OKAY.
PETER, FOLLOWED BY RICHARD, DR.
I AM PETER MOHEN, OWNER OF THE BREVARD RENAISSANCE FAIR.
I THINK WE SPOKE ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR SO.
UH, WE JUST COMPLETED OUR FAIR THIS YEAR, UH, THE LONGEST 80 DAYS I'VE EVER HAD, I THINK IN MY ENTIRE CAREER.
AND I WANTED TO EXTEND, UH, MY DEEPEST GRATITUDE TOWARDS THE MAYOR, TOWARDS THE CITY STAFF, KEVIN, WHO TOOK ALL MY ABUSE.
AND I CAN BE VERY ROUGH AND TOUGH AND FIGHT, UH, FOR WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT, BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE STAFF DID.
JENNY AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THE RENAISSANCE FAIR.
UH, WE HAD AN INCREDIBLY SHORT TIMELINE.
WE FACED A DAUNTING TASK OF REPLICATING WICKHAM PARK IN 80 DAYS ON A LARGE EMPTY LOT, UH, WITHIN JUST 80 DAYS.
WHILE THIS SEEMED MONUMENTAL, OUR STAFF ROSE TO THE OCCASION WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL THE STAFF.
OVER THE PAST SIX WEEKS, NEARLY 100,000 PEOPLE VISITED THE BREVARD RENAISSANCE FAIR FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
NOT JUST FROM BREVARD COUNTY, BUT FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
UHHUH, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE CITY'S SUPPORT.
OUR EDUCATION DAY THIS YEAR HAD 3000 KIDS.
THE BIGGEST CROWD WE'VE EVER HAD WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPANDING EDUCATION DAY NEXT YEAR TO THREE FULL DAYS TO ALLOW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS TO COME ONE DAY JUNIOR HIGH KIDS ANOTHER DAY, AND HIGH SCHOOL KIDS A THIRD DAY.
AND WE CAN THEN STRUCTURE THE EDUCATION TO MEET EACH GRADE SCHOOL.
UH, WE HAD VENDORS COME IN FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY.
WE FROM AS FAR AWAY AS WASHINGTON STATE TO, TO EVERYWHERE.
AND WE HAD A LOT OF NEW LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT WE GAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THIS YEAR TO VENT AT OUR FESTIVAL THAT HAD NEVER DONE A RENAISSANCE FAIR AT ALL.
UH, WE WERE ALSO HONORED TO HOST PERFORMERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD, FROM AUSTRALIA, CANADA, SCOTLAND, IRELAND, BAVARIA, AND ITALY.
IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTERTAINERS AND TO WATCH THEM DO JAM SESSIONS OUT THERE.
WHEN IT RAINED, UH, WE HAD 25,000 SQUARE FEET OF TENTS ON SITE.
SO WHEN IT RAINED, THEY ALL GOT UNDER THE TENTS AND KEPT ON PERFORMING.
RECREATING WHAT WE HAD AT WICKHAM PARK IN SUCH A SHORT TIMEFRAME WAS AN IMMENSE CHALLENGE THAT WE ACHIEVED OUR GOAL.
WE SET OUT TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT ALL BRAVARD COULD TAKE, PROVIDE, TAKE PRIDE IN.
AND I BELIEVE WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT THIS YEAR.
UH, OUR CASTLE, WHICH IS 170 FEET LONG, I THINK KEVIN'S GOT A PICTURE OF IT.
AND SOME OF OUR CAST, WE HAD OVER 250 PEOPLE PERFORM THE CASTLE'S, 170 FEET LONG, 20 FEET TALL.
AND THEY WORKED ALL WAY THROUGH THE FAIR TO GET IT DONE SO PEOPLE COULD BE PROUD.
IT BECAME AN INTERNATIONAL SENSATION SINCE IT WAS COVERED WITH TYVEK AND LOWE'S, LOWE'S WRAP.
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TYVEK CASTLE.WE EVEN HAD CUSTOMERS COME IN WEARING LOWE'S AND TYVEK.
WE ENTERTAINED THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
WE ALSO WANTED TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE RESIDENTS, THE ROADWAYS.
AND I BELIEVE WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THIS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
THE STRESS WAS GREAT, BUT I THINK WE DID A WONDERFUL JOB, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE STAFF DID TO GET IT.
AND I, I WILL SAY I DID GO AND TAKE THE FAMILY AND I SAW VICE MAYOR NEWMAN THERE.
WE DID WITH, WITH SOME OF HIS FRIENDS, SO HE WOULDN'T JOUST ME.
SO
PATRICK'S DAY, BUT NO, YEAH, THAT WAS A AMAZING, AND THE ONE THING THAT, THAT I DID TALK TO YOU, PETER, IS EVEN NEXT YEAR USING THE, UH, MORE LOCAL VENDORS LIKE INTERCOASTAL BREWERY FOR THEIR, THEIR ALCOHOL FOR THE DRAGON POINTS AND STUFF.
UH, I, WHEN THIS, UH, FIRST CAME UP, OF COURSE I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL THEN, UH, BUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, AND HE, HE GAVE US SOME OF THE NUMBERS, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE, THE TIE IN TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, THE RESTAURANTS THAT ALSO BENEFIT HOTELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO JUST WANT TO KIND OF MAKE THAT POINT PUBLICLY SO THAT, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW THINGS THAT WE CONSIDER THAT, UH, THAT TYPE OF AN IMPACT.
SO, AND, AND I DID TALK TO A COUPLE OF THE, THE BUSINESSES, LIKE THE CUBAN CORNER, THEY SELL COFFEE AND STUFF THERE OFF WCU.
UH, THERE'S A BRAZILIAN PLACE THERE.
THE, THEY HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN FROM ALL OUT OF TOWN USING THEIR RESTAURANTS OR BUSINESSES AND VENDORS.
SO IT WAS, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WAS, WAS, WAS AMAZING.
AND I THINK IT GOES BEYOND, TO ME, THE RENAISSANCE FAIR.
IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, DOING MORE, UM, MORE EVENTS, UH, AND AND MOVING FORWARD THAT WAY.
UM, I, AGAIN, I I, I SAID IT BEFORE, I HATE TO SEE 'EM GROW AND GROW OUTTA WICKHAM PARK AND LEAVE, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, SO THIS IS A, IT WAS A TRIAL RUN AND IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
SO ANY, ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS RICHARD.
I JUST WANTED TO, UM, I MEAN, BACK AND FORTH AT THIS PROVIDENCE PLACE THING, YOU KNOW, GOING ON IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND DID A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK, YOU KNOW, THIS LAST WEEK AND LEARNED QUITE A FEW THINGS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WAS AT THE MEETING AT MACOS THE OTHER NIGHT, LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE, GOT TO MEET, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FOUNDER OF THE STUDY PLACE, UH, STUDY TOWN, AND LEARNED QUITE A FEW THINGS AND ENLIGHTENING AND MAYBE YOU'RE AWARE, NOT AWARE OF, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I KNOW MR. NEWMAN WAS THERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HE SHARED WITH EVERYONE ELSE.
IT, IT'S BEEN KIND OF A SHORT TIME SINCE THEN.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER LISTENING TO THE FOUND ONE OF THE FOUNDERS SPEAK, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THERE'D EVEN BE ONE HOMELESS PERSON IN THERE.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I FOUND THAT KIND OF DISTURBING BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON A CRITERIA, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT'S SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, I GUESS WHAT YOU WOULD SAY, OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GUAR.
THERE'S A CRITERIA THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MEET UP TO, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE HOMELESS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW? AND WE'RE STILL STUCK WITH THE HOMELESS PROBLEM.
AND I DID, YOU KNOW, THIS WEEKEND AT MY TIME, I WENT OUT AND I DID EX I WENT OVER, I LIVE OVER BY
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST A ME PROBLEM.
IT'S A COUNTYWIDE PROBLEM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, COUNTYWIDE PROBLEM.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY GET MORE INVOLVED WITH IN, IN THE OTHER CITIES AS WELL.
AND MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE THAT MONEY AND CONSIDER PUTTING THAT TOGETHER WITH SOME OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
AND MAYBE WE CAN DO A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY AND GET THESE PEOPLE, SOME OF 'EM WANT HELP.
SOME OF 'EM I GET YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, UM, ESPECIALLY THE POLICE OFFICERS AROUND HERE, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT SOME OF THEM WANT HELP AND SOME OF 'EM NEED THAT HELP.
I DON'T WANNA SEE 'EM GOING IN JAIL IN A REVOLVING DOOR IN AND OUT OF THE JAIL.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THEM.
AND I DON'T THINK CIRCLES OF CARE IS THE ANSWER, BECAUSE IT'S A THREE DAY THING.
NO ONE'S GONNA CLEAN UP IN THREE DAYS.
SOME OF 'EM HAVE, IF TURN TO DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE ISSUE OUT THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A PLACE THEY CAN GO FOR 30 DAYS TO CLEAN UP.
AT LEAST THEY GOT A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD, SOMETHING TO EAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAYBE COUNSELING FOR THOSE THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, HOWEVER, I THINK IT COULD BE PART OF THE SOLUTION, BUT I DON'T, STILL DON'T THINK THE PROVIDENCE PLACE IS PART OF THE SOLUTION.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA HELP SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROBLEMS, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THERE'S EVEN GONNA BE ONE HOMELESS PERSON IN THERE, LET ALONE IT'S GONNA HELP THE, THE, THE, THE ONES
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AROUND HERE.BECAUSE THERE IS A CRITERIA TO FOLLOW.
YOU KNOW? SO I THINK THAT WE ALL NEED TO RE YOU KNOW, TO, TO PUT THIS INTO OUR ASSESSMENT OF WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA RESPOND TO THIS AND GOING FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, I LIKE, I, I'M THE GUY THAT LIKES EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION, YOU KNOW? AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS INFORMATION, MAYBE YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF EVERYTHING BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD.
AND REAL QUICK, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS SINCE I STARTED GOING.
I'VE BEEN TO PALM BAY, I MET WITH THE COUNTY MM-HMM
UH, WHEN WEST MELBOURNE, WHEN ALL THE, UH, CARES ACT MONEY CAME AND SURE.
AND, UH, THE OTHER CITIES WEREN'T REALLY INTERESTED.
CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE WANTED TO BUILD THEIR OWN WATER SYSTEM.
PALM BAY WANTED TO SPRINKLE THEIRS 'CAUSE THEIR NON-PROFIT MM-HMM
SO I, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
AND, AND SO THAT WAS TRIED, UH, AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS THIS COUNCIL'S DECISION AT THAT TIME TO PUT THE MONEY.
UH, AND I SPEARHEADED IT TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN MELBOURNE IS, IS, IS JUST THE DAILY BREAD.
THIS IS LIKE A DESTINATION, RIGHT? WE DON'T NEED A HANGOUT.
WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING FOR 'EM TO DO.
IT'S JUST LIKE, WELL, YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING YOU CAN'T AND WISH IT WAS THAT EASY.
BUT I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT, BEEN A LOT OF MEETING, BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD IN MY OPINION.
OH, AND JUST TO RECOGNIZE YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THIS HAS BEEN THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD SURE.
SO I'M NOT ABLE TO, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, I CAN'T TALK TO THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UNDERSTAND OUTSIDE, UNDERSTAND ON THE ISSUE.
UM, BUT THAT SAID, UM, AND FOR THE FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL, UNDERSTAND, I'M GONNA COMPILE A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION AND BRING THAT AS A PRESENTATION FOR WHEN IT'S ON THE AGENDA, UM, WHENEVER THAT MAY BE.
SO DON'T WORRY, THAT'LL MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS SO THAT, UH, YOUR VOICE AND OTHERS IS, IS HEARD BEFORE THE DECISION IS MADE.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND LETTING EVERYONE KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE, MAN.
THERE IS OPIOID MONEY AND IT'S, I'M ON THE BOARD FOR THE OPIOID PROBLEMS. A LOT OF, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE IS PEOPLE BECAUSE OF DRUG ISSUES MM-HMM
UM, SOME OF THE COUNSEL THERE IS A NEW GROUP OF COUNT PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING IN HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE DRUG PROBLEMS AND ALL THAT WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A 30 DAY PLACE FOR ANYBODY.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO 90 DAYS AT LEAST TO ACTUALLY TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE EVERYTHING.
BUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE ONES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE A CAR, UM, WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS GET TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE.
I HAVE PHONE CALLS THAT HAVE A 20, LIKE I'VE HAD A 28-YEAR-OLD WOMAN.
SHE HAD TO LEAVE A SITUATION WHERE SHE WAS, WHERE SHE WAS LIVING AT.
SHE WASN'T THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUSHING THE, PUSHING THE CART.
SHE WORKED FULL TIME, BUT SHE COULDN'T AFFORD A FIRST LAST AND THEN ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.
PROVIDENCE PLACES WHERE SHE NEEDED TO BE.
'CAUSE SHE NEEDED THAT STOP GAP.
SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HOMELESS, THE PUSHING THE CART PERSON, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE OUT THERE THAT ARE HOMELESS.
I KNOW I DRIVE AROUND HERE ALL THE TIME.
I SEE WHO, I KNOW WHO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE, ARE DIFFERENT PLACES.
SO WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED A PLACE TOO.
AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORKING, BUT THEY NEED THAT, THEY NEED A STOP GAP FOR A MOMENT.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW A PLACE LIKE PROVIDENCE POLICE WOULD HELP THEM, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT, AND THERE'S A LOT AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT OUT THERE.
AND THERE, THERE'S, I'VE HELPED ANOTHER PERSON THAT SHE WAS LIVING IN THE WOODS BY 95, BUT THEN SHE GOT, SHE GOT HERSELF CLEAN.
SHE, BUT SHE WAS LIVING IN AN APARTMENT, NOT AN APARTMENT, I'M SORRY.
AND IT WAS COSTING HER, IT'S EXPENSIVE, I THINK $3,000 A MONTH.
AND SHE SAYS, BUT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE THE, THE DEPOSIT, THE FIRST STUFF.
ALL THE DEPOSITS, BUT WAS WORKING TWO JOBS.
JUST TO KEEP A AHEAD OF KEEP, KEEP A PLACE OVER A, UM, ROOF OVER HER HEAD.
SO PROVIDENCE PLACES, BUT SHE'S STILL HOMELESS.
SO THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE NEED TO,
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WE GOTTA START SOMEWHERE.ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK? OKAY.
I'M GONNA MOVE INTO ITEM EIGHT, UN UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 25 5 DASH OH NINE.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005 DASH ONE 20 BY GRANTING CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW THE SALE AND SERVICE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, BEER AND WINE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A WINE BAR IN A 1,180, UH, PLUS OR MINUS SQUARE FOOT UNIT LOCATED ON A 0.03 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF PROPERTIES ON C3 CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF HIGHLAND AVENUE, SOUTH OF ALI BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF MONTREAL BOULEVARD.
1431 HIGHLAND AVENUE, PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL PROVIDING THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE GRANTED HEREIN MAY BE REVOKED BY CITY COUNCIL IF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE NOT MET.
PROVIDING THAT THE PROPERTY SHALL BE DESIGNATED ON THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP BY THE SYMBOL C DASH C3, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
REPORTING ON THIS IS MS. STIFFER? UH, YES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON SECOND READING FOR THIS ITEM.
MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MS. DIMMER? NO, THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM.
A DISCLOSURES? NO, NO DISCLOSURES.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MAYOR? GOOD SIR.
APPROVE OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH ZERO NINE BASED UPON THE FINES, CONDITIONS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LARUSSO, SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, REPORTING ON THIS, UH, ORDINANCE 20 25 10.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE VAR COUNTY FLORIDA.
RECOGNIZING THE DISSOLUTION OF THE LIBRARY BOARD AND THE SUNSET OF THE BABCOCK STREET REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BY REPEALING REFERENCES WITHIN THE CITY CODE MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION REPEALING DIVISION SEVEN LIBRARY BOARD.
REPEALING SECTION TWO DASH 3 0 6 CREATED MEMBERSHIP SELECTION TERMS OF MEMBERS AND SECTION TWO DASH 3 0 7 QUORUM AMENDING SECTION TWO DASH 3 84 COMPOSITION TERMS OF OFFICE AMENDING CHAPTER 20 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING.
REPEALING ARTICLE FIVE, BABCOCK STREET COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, PROVIDING FOR INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION.
UH, THE ONLY INFORMATION I WANT TO PROVIDE IS THE AMENDMENT WE MADE TO THE SHORT TITLE.
YOU MIGHT RECALL THE CITY ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY POINTED OUT, UM, AN ISSUE, UH, WITH REGARD TO REFERENCING THE ZONING CODE, WHICH WE ARE NOT DOING.
SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT CHANGE WAS MADE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'LL BE CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION.
ANY QUESTIONS, MAYOR? GO AHEAD SIR.
I WANT TO, UH, THANK JENNY AND STAFF FOR GETTING SOME INFORMATION FOR RESIDENTS REGARDING HOW TO REACH OUT TO THE LIBRARY, UH, BOARD THROUGH THE COUNTY.
UH, THEY'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE AND I WAS AS WELL, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ORDINANCE.
APPROVE OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 10.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BASSETT, WHO'S A SECOND IS MRS. KENNEDY.
WHEN A SECOND WILL ON ORDINANCE.
JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THERE'S NO COMMENTS.
IT'S JUST AN ERROR IN THE PACKAGE.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT AYE.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10, REPORTING ON THIS IS MR. ENNI.
HI, EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL AGAIN.
THIS IS TASK ORDER NUMBER MLA 0 0 2 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS SERVICES, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, WITH THE BIG NOIA AVENUE CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT, UH, JANUARY OF 2024.
COUNCIL APPROVED A DESIGN SERVICES CONTRACT WITH ISS FOR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE A RPA, UH, FUNDED PROJECTS ON MARCH 26TH.
COUNCIL APPROVED TASK ORDER NUMBER ONE WITH ISS FOR THE DESIGN OF THE BIG NOIA AVENUE CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
THIS IS A, UH, CULVERT THAT RUNS UNDER BIG NOIA AVENUE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE OUTFALL CULVERTS FOR OUR SYSTEM.
SO IT'S BASICALLY THE FINAL CONNECTION POINT BETWEEN APPROXIMATELY A 150 ACRE DRAINAGE BASIN, UH, WHERE IT COMES INTO, UH, CRANE CREEK AS A FINAL DISCHARGE POINT.
CULVERT WAS, UH, WELL OVER 40 YEARS OLD.
UM, AND AS PART OF THE ARPA UH, FUNDING, WE, UM, PUT FORTH THE REPLACEMENT OF THIS PROJECT.
UH, ACTUALLY HAD SOME PRETTY SEVERE DESIGN CHALLENGES WITH IT, UH, AS THIS IS A ONE WAY IN ONE WAY OUT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, SO WE HAD TO PROVIDE FOR TEMPORARY ACCESS ALONG WITH, UH, THE FACT THAT THE DRAINAGE CULVERT ITSELF WAS, UH, SANDWICHED AND PARTIALLY IMPEDED BY, UH, TWO MAJOR UTILITY,
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UH, FORCE MAIN CONNECTIONS, UH, ONE BELOW THE PIPE AND ONE ABOVE THE PIPE.UH, SO THE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THIS DRAINAGE CULVERT IS AN EXTREMELY, UM, SENSITIVE, UM, APPROACH.
UH, IF YOU DISTURB EITHER OF THOSE FORCE MAINS, IT COULD RESULT IN A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE, UH, THAT WOULD THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS.
UM, AS NOTED ABOVE, ISS, UH, MELBOURNE PROVIDED THE PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES FOR THIS CONTRACT TASK ORDER MLA 0 0 2 IS FOR ISS TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION SERVICES, INCLUDING REVIEW OF SHOP DRAWINGS, UH, PROJECT OVERSIGHT, BIWEEKLY PROGRESS MEETINGS, UH, FINAL AND PRE-FINAL INSPECTIONS, UH, AND RESPONDING TO REQUESTS FOR, FOR INFORMATION MONITORING EROSION CONTROL MEASURES.
AS I NOTED, THIS IS DI UH, DIRECT, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, LAGOON BASIN.
SO THERE'S NO, UH, FURTHER CONTAINMENT BEYOND THIS POINT.
IF WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF DISCHARGES, IT WOULD BE AN IMMEDIATE, UH, VIOLATION OF OUR, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW COULD RESULT IN SEVERE FINES.
UM, ALONG WITH, UM, PROVIDING, UM, DESIGN INTERPRETATION AND POSSIBLE DESIGN CHANGES ONCE WE'VE, UH, EXCAVATED, UH, THE EXISTING CULVERT SYSTEM OUT.
UM, AS I SAID THIS, WE'VE GOT TWO MAJOR UTILITIES THAT RUN THROUGH THIS PROJECT, UH, THAT IS LIKELY OR AT LEAST, UH, POSSIBLE, THAT WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE DESIGN CHANGES AND WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THEM VERY QUICKLY.
UH, ONCE YOU EXCAVATE A FORCE MAIN, ESPECIALLY FORCE MAINS FOR THIS SIZE, YOU DON'T WANNA LEAVE THEM EXPOSED FOR VERY LONG.
UH, BASICALLY ANY TIME OF EXPOSURE IS JUST A, A RISK THAT THAT FORCE MAIN MAY FAIL AND THEN START DISCHARGING.
ONE OF 'EM IS A 24 INCH FORCE MAIN CARRYING SEWAGE.
UH, THE OTHER ONE IS CARRYING, UM, A RAW WATER A TREATMENT.
SO, UH, EITHER OF THOSE DISCHARGING TO THE LAGOON.
UM, THE, UH, PROJECT NUMBER 1 4 1 2 3 IS NOT ADEQUATELY FUNDED.
UH, AN ADMINISTRATIVE BUDGET TRANSFER IN THE AMOUNT OF $156,442 FROM STORMWATER ON APPROPRIATED BUDGET SAVINGS IS BEING MADE TO SUPPLEMENT THE PROJECT BUDGET.
TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET WILL BE $784,589.
UH, THIS INCLUDES A COST OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE AND THE AMOUNT OF 32,402, WHICH WAS, UH, MADE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE SOME ADDITIONAL UTILITY REQUIREMENTS TO STABILIZE, UH, THE PIPES WHEN WE EXCAVATED THEM.
UM, THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR A PROJECT CONTINGENCY FUND OF APPROXIMATELY $26,000, UH, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS ANY OTHER, UH, UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS.
UH, ONCE THE EXCAVATION HAS BEEN OPENED UP, WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER MLA 0 0 2 TO INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTION SERVICES, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES DURING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE MAGIA STREET CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT NUMBER 1 4 1 1 4 1 2 3 IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $97,610.
ANY QUESTION FOR MR. ERNEST? OKAY, UH, WE HAVE A DIRECTION ON THIS COUNCIL.
APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER MLA 0 0 2 TO INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTION SERVICES, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES DURING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE BEGONIA BAGONIA, SORRY, STREET CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT NUMBER 1 4 1 2 3 IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED OF $97,610.
ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE A MOTION PASSES.
ITEM NUMBER 11, MR. ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE OFF SYSTEM CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE FOR THE ELLIS ROAD WIDENING PROJECT.
UH, THE CITY HAS CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED THE ELLIS ROAD WIDENING PROJECT AS A PRIORITY PROJECT THROUGH THE SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, AND CONSIDERS A PROJECT TO BE A VITAL CONNECTION BETWEEN THE I 95 AND MELBOURNE ORLANDO, UH, INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
ON DECEMBER 16TH, 2024 WAS ANNOUNCED THE PROJECT TEAM HAD SECURED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR THE PROJECT THROUGH A STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE DOT IS REQUIRING THAT LOCAL AGENCIES ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT TO ALLOW DOT TO ACT ON BEHALF OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHERE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S RIGHT OF WAYS ARE IMPACTED WITHIN DEFINED PROJECT LIMITS.
UH, THIS IS BASICALLY JUST A REALLY, UH, LAWYERLY WAY OF SAYING THAT, UH, THIS ALLOWS THE DOT TO ISSUE RIGHT OF WAY CORRECTIONS, DESIGN CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME BACK TO THE CITY AND, UH, BASICALLY BARTER DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
UH, IN OUR CASE, WE'RE ONLY IMPACTED BY ABOUT 300 SQUARE FOOT OF RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, AND THIS WOULD BASICALLY ALLOW DOT TO MAKE DESIGN DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, FACILITATE A, A QUICK RESPONSE ON THE PROJECT IN ORDER TO KEEP IT MOVING.
UM, WE'RE REQUESTING THERE'S NO BUDGET IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME.
UH, PREVIOUSLY COUNSEL HAS, UH, COMMITTED TO SPEND APPROXIMATELY 1.1 MILLION FROM ZONE ONE AND ZONE TWO TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES FOR COUNTY ROADWAYS AS A PART OF THE LOCAL MATCH FOR THE PROJECT.
A LOCALLY FUNDED AGREEMENT WITH DOT WILL BE BROUGHT COUNSEL, UM, PROBABLY SOMETIME IN THE FALL TIMEFRAME WHEN THEY'RE GETTING CLOSER TO CONSTRUCTION, UH, TO, UH, ALLOCATE THOSE COSTS.
UH, AS HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN REQUESTED AND AGREED TO BY COUNSEL, UH, WE'RE REQUESTING
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APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4 3 2 8, UH, WITH THIS, WHICH AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO, UH, EXECUTE THIS AGREEMENT.SO, UH, I'M ON THE SPACE COAST TPO, BUT I STILL HAVE NOT REALLY SEEN WHAT THE RENDERING OR WHAT THE FINAL LAYOUT OR BENEFIT WILL BE OF THE ELLIS ROLE.
I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A BIG IMPACT AND GOOD FOR US, BUT ANY IDEAS OF YES, SIR.
SO THE, UH, THE STATE IN ORDER TO, UM, FACILITATE AND ACCELERATE THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, THEY'VE SPLIT IT INTO, UH, CLEARING AND GRUBBING PHASE, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE UTILITY, UH, COMPANIES TO GET IN AND DO THEIR RELOCATION WORK TO GET IT OUT AHEAD OF THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO THIS IS BASICALLY GETTING US INTO THE FIRST PHASE WHERE THE UTILITIES ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED TO RELOCATE AFTER THE UTILITIES, ESPECIALLY FPL HAVE RELOCATED THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO PUSH INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON FINALIZING THE DESIGN AND THEN THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED AT THAT POINT TO THE TPO.
BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR, UM, GO AHEAD.
WE CAN PROVIDE, UM, A SKETCH OR TO SHOW WHAT THE LAYOUT IS AND EVERYTHING.
I THINK THAT THE TPO MIGHT HAVE THAT ON THEIR WEBSITE OR IT MAY BE SOMETHING THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED TO US.
SO WE CAN FORWARD THAT TO, TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
AND, AND THAT WOULD BE THE, THE GENERAL LAYOUT AND LIMITS OF THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
IT WON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC DESIGN DETAILS FOR THE ROADWAY YET THOUGH.
OKAY, ANY, ANYBODY ELSE? O OKAY.
DO WE HAVE AN ACTION ON THIS? MAYOR? GOOD MA'AM.
APPROVAL OF RE RESOLUTION 43 28.
I HAVE ONE MORE LIKE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOTHING WAS PULLED ITEM A THROUGH.
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA A THROUGH I.
AND I'LL HAVE A MOTION BY MR. RUSSO AND SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
UH, MR. ERNEST, ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A RESOLUTION TO EXTEND THE LIMITS OF AN EXISTING PRIVATE STREET NAMED IRENE SUMMERFORD WAY.
UH, THIS RESOLUTION TO EXTEND THE PRIVATE STREET IS TO SERVE THE GREATER HEIGHTS.
PHASE TWO, MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED WEST OF SOUTHLAND AVENUE AND EAST OF CEDARWOOD DRIVE.
IT'S UM, THE EXTENSION IS ALONG THE RED DOTTED LINE, UH, PARCEL.
UM, THIS IS REQUIRED, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, PROVIDE ADDRESSING, UM, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPONSE OR WITH REGARDS TO THE EMERGENCY 9 1 1 SYSTEM.
UM, THE FOLLOWING EXTENSION OF A NOT NAMED PRIVATE STREET HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO EXTEND IRENE SUMMERFORD WAY APPROXIMATELY 230 FEET SOUTH OF MASTERSON STREET.
EXTENSION HAS BEEN APPROVED AND RESERVED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT BY BREVARD COUNTY 9 1 1 EMERGENCY SERVICES.
THERE IS NO FISCAL, UH, BUDGET IMPACT AND WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER FOUR.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS, MAYOR? GOOD SIR.
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER FOUR.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. RUSSOS, UH, SECOND BY MR. SMITH, ALTHOUGH IT MAY SAY AYE.
UH, WE'LL BE REPORTING ON THIS WILL BE MS. CINDY DIMMER.
THIS IS A, UM, REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF SOUTH BREVARD, AWARDING A UM, $194,772 AND 6 CENTS IN HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM FUNDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT WILL BE LOCATED AT 1204.
REVEREND NATHANIEL L HARRIS STREET.
UM, MACEDONIA HAS SUBMITTED THIS PROPOSAL, UM, BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2024 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS NEW, UM, HOME.
AND IT WAS INCLUDED WITHIN THE FY 20 24 20 25 ACTION PLAN.
UM, MACEDONIA CDC IS A 5 0 1 C3, UM, THAT ACQUIRES, UM, PROPERTIES AND TRANSFORMS THEM INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES.
UM, ON JULY 9TH, 2024, COUNSEL DID APPROVE THE FUNDING WITHIN THE ACTION PLAN IN THE AMOUNT OF THE $194,772 AND 6 CENTS.
UM, MACEDONIA, CDC IS CONTRIBUTING $130,225 AND 94 CENTS, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE VALUE, VALUE OF THE LAND THAT THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING ON, UM, TO THE OVERALL PROJECT, UM, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER, UM, $354,000.
UM, THERE WILL BE, UM, A LIEN PLACED ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE DURATION OF THE 20 YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD IN THE AMOUNT OF THE $194,000 THAT THE UM, CITY IS PUTTING IN OF HOME
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FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT.AND THEN MACEDONIA WILL CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT AND THEN WE WILL, UM, RENT THAT OUT TO HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE, UM, LOW INCOME, 80% OR BELOW, UM, OF THE AVERAGE MEETING INCOME.
UM, FOR OUR AREA, UH, THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE IN OUR CURRENT LINE ITEM FOR OUR, UM, 24 25 HOME FUNDS.
AND WITH THAT, I'D RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF, UM, MELBOURNE AND MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF SOUTH BREVARD, AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL RELATED AGREEMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DIMMER? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION ON THIS? FAIR.
APPROVAL OF FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF SOUTH BREVARD.
AN AUTHORIZATION OF THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL RELATED AGREEMENTS.
OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR, UH, BROOKE.
QUICK, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE NO SIGNUP SHEETS.
I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACCEPT THE MOTIONS.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 11.
UH, MR. CONLEY, THANK YOU MAYOR.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING APPENDIX D CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE AMENDING CHAPTER 10 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENTITLED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENTS TO REFLECT THE ANNUAL UPDATE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
UH, YES, THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO UPDATE THE ELEMENT'S FIVE YEAR SCHEDULE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THIS ACTION IS REQUIRED ANNUALLY BY FLORIDA STATUTES, UM, FOR THE CITY TO COMPLETE.
UM, THE CIE IS ONE ELEMENT OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT CONTAINS, UM, PROJECTS, UM, OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN OUR, UM, REQUIRED LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS, UM, THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THE PROJECTS INCLUDED, UM, WITHIN THE ATTACHMENTS, THERE ARE NO NEW PROJECTS IN HERE.
THESE PROJECTS ALL COME FROM PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UM, DOCUMENTS.
SO OUR CURRENT CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE'RE UNDER THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR, THOSE PROJECTS SHOW UP IN HERE.
UM, AS WELL AS THEN, UM, PROJECTS, THERE'S SEVERAL, UM, TPO RELATED PROJECTS THAT ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN HERE.
AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDE ALL OF OUR MOBILITY PLAN, UM, CAPITAL PROJECTS.
AND, UM, THESE ARE ALL TAKEN OUT FOR, UM, A 10 YEAR PERIOD.
THERE'S A FIVE YEAR SCHEDULE AND A 10 YEAR SCHEDULE, UM, THAT'S INCLUDED.
UM, FLORIDA STATUTES DOES ALLOW COUNSEL TO APPROVE THIS BY ORDINANCE AHEAD OF THE FLORIDA COMMERCE REVIEW.
NORMALLY WE HAVE TO TRANSMIT IT UP THERE FIRST AND THEN COME BACK AFTERWARDS.
IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THIS IS SORT OF JUST A, UM, ROUTINE THING THAT'S REQUIRED, WE'RE ALLOWED TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE, UM, AND SEND IT UP TO FLORIDA COMMERCE AHEAD OF TIME, UM, FOR THEIR, THEIR FINAL APPROVAL.
AND WITH THAT, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 11 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED WITHIN THE STAFF MEMORANDUM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DIMMER? OKAY, THIS IS A QUAS ID TO SHOW ITEM AND DISCLOSURES.
I NOTE NO DISCLOSURES A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE NO SIGNUP.
APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 11 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED WITHIN THE STAFF MEMORANDUM.
SO WE HAVE A, UH, A MOTION BY MS. BASSETT.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17, MR. CONLEY.
THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 12, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA, CORRECTING THE DEFINITION OF CAMP OR CAMPING AS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 20 25 DASH OH EIGHT, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING CHAPTER 52 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED STREET SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES AMENDING SECTION 52 DASH 10 CAMPING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
UH, JUST A VERY QUICK REPORT ON THIS, UM, COUNSEL MAY RECALL, UM, JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED, UH, ORDINANCE 2025 DASH OH EIGHT TO INCLUDE, UH, A DEFINITION AND A RESTRICTION ON CAMPING IN PUBLIC PLACES.
UNFORTUNATELY, UPON FURTHER REVIEW, I REALIZED THAT THAT THERE WAS SOME, UM, ARTIFACT LANGUAGE IN THERE RELATING TO PARKS, FACILITIES, AND PARK PROPERTIES.
SO, UM, THIS ORDINANCE, UH, WILL CORRECT THAT LANGUAGE, UM, STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE OUT AND, UM, REINSERT THE APPROPRIATE REFERENCE TO PUBLIC PLACES TO MAKE, UM, THAT LANGUAGE IN 52 DASH 10, UM, WITHIN THE INTENDED SCOPE FROM FROM COUNCIL'S ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
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UM, UH, THE ORDINANCE ALSO READ, ADOPTS ALL OF THE FINDINGS THAT WERE MADE IN ORDINANCE 2025 DASH OH EIGHT.UM, SO THIS IS REALLY JUST A, A UNFORTUNATE CLEANUP OF A, OF A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF, UH, ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 12.
UM, WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, GOD KNOWS I HAVE IN MY LIFETIME.
UM, BUT, UH, HAVE WE REVIEWED THE REST OF, UH, THOSE ORDINANCES THAT, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS OR ANY OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT ARE GOING TO TIE THE HANDS OF OUR OFFICERS IN? IN MY REVIEW, I DIDN'T SEE ANY OTHER TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS OR, OR, UH, UNINTENDED LANGUAGE IN, IN THE ORDINANCE.
IT WAS ONLY IN THIS SECTION 52.
AND, UM, IF I CAN JUST HEAR FROM THE POLICE CHIEF, ARE WE OKAY WITH THESE ARE OFFICERS GIVEN WHAT THEY NEED? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, DAVE GILLESPIE, POLICE CHIEF CITY OF MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE, UM, LOOKED AT THIS WITH, UH, ADAM AND, UH, WITH OUR STAFF AS WELL, AND AGREE THAT, UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS AND, UH, WE DID CATCH THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ITEM THAT WILL HELP US BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, UM, IN A MORE WHOLE WHOLESOME WAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, MAYOR, UM, GO AHEAD.
NOT NECESSARILY FOR CHIEF, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN IMPACT TO PARKS AND REC SINCE THEY'RE SORT ON THE FRONT LINE OF, SO YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE, OKAY, NIKKI? YEAH.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
NIKKI CALDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS, RECREATION, AND GOLF.
SO THE ONE ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSED ITEMS IN CHAPTER 42 HAS GREATLY, UM, IMPACTED US TO IMPROVE CONDITIONS.
UM, AND I THINK THIS OTHER ONE IS FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY AND SIDEWALK AREAS ALSO.
SO, YES, WE'VE SEEN IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY.
SO IF I CAN ADD IN, GO AHEAD MA'AM.
UM, UM, NIKKI WAS JUST MENTIONING TO ME LAST WEEK THAT ONE OF THE PAVILIONS THAT HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE USED BY JUST NORMAL PEOPLE COMING TO EAT THEIR LUNCH THERE, WHEN I SAY NORMAL, I MEAN LIKE PEOPLE THAT, THAT MAYBE ARE OUT ON THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, SERVICE VEHICLES, THEY, THEY USED TO BE ABLE TO COME AND DO THAT.
THEY'RE NOW ABLE TO COME AND DO THAT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE HAD HOMELESS THAT HAD ALL OF THEIR CAMPING EQUIPMENT IN THERE AND IT COULDN'T BE USED BY SOMEONE JUST WANTING TO USE IT FOR A HALF HOUR.
SO I CONSIDER THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A BABY STEP, BUT IT'S A GOOD STEP FORWARD.
SO, UM, MOVE ANY ACTION ON THIS MAYOR? GOOD MA'AM.
APPROVE OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 12, AND I'LL SECOND THAT WE HAVE MOTION TO SECOND.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, FORGIVE ME FOR USURPING NIKKI AND ANTHONY'S, UH, TIME HERE REAL QUICK.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE ONE, UH, MINOR MENTION HERE ON THE FIRST, UH, ITEM A 18 A, UH, RESOLUTION NUMBER 4, 3 3 2.
THIS IS THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHED IN THE ADVANCE, UH, BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE GOLF COURSES FUND TO FACILITATE THIS PURPOSE.
UH, IN REVIEW OF THE, UH, FIRST RECITAL ON THERE, THERE'S SOME, UH, OLD LANGUAGE RELATING TO A DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT METHOD THAN WHAT'S DESCRIBED IN YOUR ITEM.
UH, SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND UPON, UH, APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 4, 3, 3 2 IS THE OMISSION OF, UH, THE OLD PROCUREMENT LANGUAGE.
SO JUST, UH, UH, OVERSIGHT ON OUR PART.
AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEYOND THAT POINT RELATING TO THE FINANCING, I'LL ALLOW ANTHONY AND, UH, NIKKI TO PRESENT THE ITEM AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I CAN'T, CAN'T HEAR YOU ON NO MICROPHONE.
LITTLE ROOKIE, IF YOU CAN SEE ME ENOUGH.
COUNCIL NAME IS ANTHONY SANAMA, UH, CLUBHOUSE SUPERVISOR AT CRANE CREEK RESERVE GOLF CLUB.
UH, I AM HERE TO PRESENT THE PURCHASE OF THE GOLF CARTS AND PAY SHIELD GPS FOR BOTH GOLF COURSES, WHICH WOULD BE HARBOR CITY AND CRANE CREEK.
WE HAVE RESEARCHED, EVALUATED, AND DEMOED THREE, UH, GOLF CART MANUFACTURERS.
UM, AND THEIR GPS SYSTEMS STAFF RECOMMENDS PURCHASING AT LEAST THE LEAST EXPENSIVE AND BEST VALUE, WHICH WOULD BE THE EASY GO RXV ELITE GOLF CARTS WITH THE PAY SHIELD, UH,
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SYSTEM.THESE GOLF CARTS ARE PRETTY COOL.
UH, THEY'RE EQUIPPED WITH ZERO MAINTENANCE LITHIUM BATTERIES, WHICH WILL GIVE IT A LONGER LIFESPAN.
WINDSHIELD BAG COVERS AND SAND BUCKETS.
THE WARRANTIES KIND OF VARY ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO FIVE YEARS.
OF COURSE, DEPENDING ON THE PART.
UH, 75 CARTS WILL BE GOING TO HARBOR CITY AND 65 CARTS WILL BE COMING TO CRANE CREEK.
WE WILL BE TRADING IN 120 EXISTING CARTS FOR A CREDIT OF $1,800 EACH.
SO THE COST OF THE NEW FLEET AFTER TRADE WOULD BE $973,300.
THE GREAT THING IN THESE FEATURES, UM, THAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK IS THAT, UH, PAY SHIELD, IT'S THEIR GPS UH, SERVICE THAT PROVIDES REAL TIME GOLF CART DATA.
AND THE GREAT PART WITH THIS IS THEIR GEOFENCING.
AND THE BEST PART IS THEY HAVE A REMOTE VEHICLE LOCKDOWN.
SO AT NIGHTTIME WE CAN LOCK THESE DOWN AND IT'S GONNA HELP WITH THEFT.
THESE CARTS WILL NOT GO ANYWHERE WHEN IT'S ON LOCKDOWN.
UH, AND THIS WILL PREVENT TO BE HONEST, WITH THOSE THREE GREAT FEATURES, LESS DAMAGE TO THE GOLF COURSE, LESS DAMAGE TO OUR GOLF CARTS, BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESTRICT WHERE THESE GOLF CARTS GO.
I'LL BE ABLE TO SIT IN MY OFFICE AND SAY, YOU'RE TOO CLOSE TO THAT GREEN, THAT CART WILL AUTOMATICALLY SHUT DOWN.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA SAVE ALL THAT MONEY WE JUST SPENT ON ALL THAT RENOVATION.
EACH GOLF COURSE COLLECTS APPROXIMATELY 69,000 EACH MONTH JUST ON CART RENTALS.
THAT JUST SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH REVENUE THAT WE ARE GONNA BE MAKING ON THESE GOLF CARTS.
SO, UH, THE REQUESTED ACTION IS APPROVAL, A PURCHASE OF 140 GOLF CARTS WITH PAY SHIELD SERVICE FROM EASY GO IN THE TOTAL OF $1,128,140.
OH, AND THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED AN IN INTER FUND LOAN TO UTILIZE THE GENERAL FUND TO PURCHASE THE GOLF CARTS WITH REPAYMENT FROM THE GOLF COURSE REVENUE.
AND WE, WE'D ASK, WE'D ASK THAT, THAT, UH, RESOLUTION APPROVAL BE AS REVISED AS DESCRIBED BY, UM, MR. MCGINN.
UM, I CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH THE LANGUAGE.
IT'S, IT'S THE FIRST RECITAL ON THE RESOLUTION, UM, STARTING WITH THE WORD PURSUANT AND ENDING WITH THE WORD, UH, FINANCING.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO END THAT FIRST RECITAL WITH THE END OF A TEXTRON COMPANY.
AND THEN THE PARENTHETICAL OF THE APPROVED PURCHASE.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THE, THE UNDERLYING PURCHASING VEHICLE IS, IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S DESCRIBED HERE IN THE, IN THE RESOLUTION.
JUST QUESTION THE OLD GOLF CARTS THAT WE'RE TRADING IN, HOW OLD ARE THEY? UH, FOUR YEARS OLD.
AND HOW MUCH WERE THEY, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE BOUGHT THEM.
THERE'S, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? I BELIEVE THEY WERE, UM, ABOUT $5,000 EACH PLUS OR MINUS.
AND WHAT'S THE LIFESPAN ON THOSE? THEY'RE LITHIUM BATTERIES.
THE, THE NEW, THE NEW ONES ARE FOUR YEARS.
THE ONES WE CURRENTLY HAVE ARE ACID BATTERIES, WHICH HAVE A FOUR YEAR LIFESPAN ON BARELY.
AND WE USE, WE USE THEM MORE THAN MOST GOLF COURSES.
SOMETIMES THE GOLF CARTS GO OUT TO ALMOST THREE TIMES A DAY.
SO WE HAVE A, IT'S PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE AT THIS POINT.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE BOUGHT THEM, THEY WERE SO PRETTY
SO ONCE THE BATTERIES GO, IT'S TIME TO BUY NEW CARTS.
'CAUSE IT'S MORE SO WHAT TO BUY BATTERY.
SO IT TAKES IS ONE ACID BATTERY TO GO BAD AND YOU HAVE TO REPLACE ALL SIX.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER CART ONCE ONE BATTERY GOES WHEN IT'S ACID BASED.
THESE NEW CARTS ARE GONNA BE LITHIUM THOUGH.
THERE'LL BE NO MAINTENANCE AND THEY'LL, IT'S JUST A, AN AMAZING BATTERY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, SO HOLD ON, HOLD ON MS. HANLEY.
SO THE CARTS WE HAVE NOW HAVING GROWN UP ON GOLF COURSES SURE.
UM, AND SEEN ON THE GREENS HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE JUST DUG IN THEIR, THOSE GREENS AND ALL THAT.
SO AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GO IN THE SAND TRAPS.
SO, UH, ONCE THE GOLF CARTS GET HERE, THAT'S WHAT THAT GEOFENCING MM-HMM
I READ WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAP OUT EVERYWHERE.
WE DO NOT WANT THESE GOLF CARTS TO TRAVEL.
AND ONCE THEY HIT THAT RED ZONE, WE'LL CALL IT, IT AUTOMATICALLY SHUTS OFF AND YOU HAVE TO REVERSE TO GET OUT FROM WHERE YOU ARE.
'CAUSE UP NORTH MY DAD'S GOLF CART USED TO BE USED BY SOME FOOTBALL PLAYERS AND SURE.
I USED TO SEE IT BOUNCING AROUND, YOU KNOW.
SO UNBELIEVABLE THAT THEY CAN DO THAT NOW.
SO I'M, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED BY THAT.
'CAUSE THAT WILL SAVE A LOT OVER TIME.
GOLF COURSE, ESPECIALLY ON THE GREENS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, JUST THE WEAR AND TEAR OF THE GOLF COURSE.
JUST 'CAUSE OF WHERE THE GOLF CARTS GO.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SO MANY RANGERS
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THAT ARE GOING AROUND AND BE AT SO MANY PLACES.HOW ARE THE GREENS DOING? THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY FAST? THEY'RE STILL A LITTLE YOUNG, SO, YOU KNOW, WE STILL GOT SOME, ARE THEY FAST? WE'RE GETTING THERE.
YOU KNOW, ONCE WE, ONCE WE GET THAT GROWING SEASON, IT'S JUST BEEN SO COLD THESE LAST THREE WEEKS, THE GRASS JUST KIND OF GOES DORMANT AND DOESN'T WANT TO GROW.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO DROP 'EM TOO FAST AND TAKE THE CHANCE OF LOSS.
SO THIS IS THE TIME WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT SAFER THAN AGGRESSIVE.
SO YEAH, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SLOW, BUT, AND THE GOLF COURSES DEFENSE, THEY KIND OF NEED TO BE, 'CAUSE WE'RE ALSO DOING 200 ROUNDS A DAY.
SO SINCE WE'VE DONE THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE GONE UP, HOW A PERCENTAGE WISE, CRANE CREEK, I ALWAYS CALL, I'M A HARBOR CITY PERSON.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE, I'D SAY BEFORE OUR CLOSURE, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE MID FIFTIES TO HIGH FIFTIES, THOUSANDS, YOU KNOW, LITTLE UNDER 60,000 ROUNDS.
SO WE'VE ALWAYS AVERAGED ANYWHERE FROM ONE 70 TO 200 SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE FOUR YEARS.
SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT GOLF COURSE.
HOW'S HARBOR CITY DOING? BECAUSE I'M, I'M GROWING UP, I'M, LIKE I SAID, I'VE AROUND THE GOLF COURSES AND ALL THAT.
I ACTUALLY FOLLOWED HER NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE KIND OF COMPETING WITH ME.
WHERE I USED TO ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE ADVANTAGE.
KNOW HER CITY ALWAYS USED TO BE A LOT, LOT, WELL OBVIOUSLY SPEAKING FOR MY TIME, BUT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ALMOST DOING THE SAME AMOUNT OF ROUNDS AND NUMBERS.
THEY'LL PROBABLY END UP GOING, THEY USED TO ALWAYS, BECAUSE IT HARBOR CITY FOR ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW.
HARBOR CITY IS THE MORE CHALLENGING COURSE.
ONE, IT'S ONE OF, IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, IT'S, UM, IN THE AREA, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING COURSES.
EVEN SOME OF THE PRIVATE COURSES AREN'T AS CHALLENGING AS HARBOR CITY.
AND THEN YOUR CRANE CREEK IS A SMALL, WE'LL CALL GOLF FRIENDLY, TIGHTER COURSE.
THAT'S A NICE, THAT'S A NICE WORD TO USE.
SO IF YOU, I MEAN, IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND GOLFING, THAT IS, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF ROOM TO MISS YOUR SHOTS.
THAT'S A NICE, THAT'S A VERY NICE MOVE.
I KNOW MR. YOU, YOU, WE WRAPPING UP EARLIER.
BUT I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S, UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE'VE GONE UP OVER, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I GREW UP WHEN YOU HAD TO, TO GET A TEE TIME, IT WAS, YOU HAD TO GO TWO DAYS EARLY, YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH A TWO DAYS EARLY.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE BACK TO THAT BY NEXT WINTER.
LIKE, I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH, UH, WE ALLOW, YOU KNOW, UH, THE MEMBERSHIP, HOW ARE YOU DOING, HOW ARE YOU DOING IN TEE? HOW ARE YOU DOING THE TEE TIMES? MM-HMM
ARE YOU, IS IT A CALL IN TIME OR IS IT, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UM, WE HAVE A CALL SERVICE NOW MM-HMM
UH, 'CAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF CALLS.
SO WE HAVE THE CALL SERVICE, OF COURSE ONLINE TEE TIMES AND OF COURSE YOU CAN CALL THE GOLF SHOP.
UM, BUT NINE OUTTA 10 TIMES, IF YOU DON'T CALL WITHIN THAT WEEK, IF YOU CALL ME FOR TOMORROW, MOST LIKELY YOU WON'T GET A TEE TIME.
OH REALLY? I'M, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE THERE FOR A WHILE.
IT, I MEAN, WHEN I FIRST COME OUT ON COUNCIL AND I WALKED BACK OUT ON THE, ON THE THING, IT LOOKED LIKE A SAN IT, IT WAS, IT WAS BAD.
I EXAMPLE, WE OPENED JANUARY 11TH AND WE WERE ONLY, 'CAUSE WE HAD A FEW RAIN DATES.
WE WERE ONLY OPEN 18 DAYS IN JANUARY AND WE DID $153,000 WOW.
IT'S OF COURSE IT'S NOT AMAZING.
I MEAN, IT'S THOSE THREE SHORT DAYS.
NO, WHAT I MEAN THE, THE, IT'S SURE, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU GUYS, THESE, THESE GENTLEMEN ARE OUT THERE AS SOON AS DAY BREAKS.
TEEING OFF OF THE DARK, THE, UM, TILL THEY CAN'T SEE THE BALLS.
UH, MY, MY QUESTION IS WHEN YOU GO INTO THE LITHIUM BATTERIES, SO WHAT ARE, WHAT AS FAR AS YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT CHANGES AT THE ACTUAL COURSES TO SUPPORT THE NEWER VEHICLES? TO BE HONEST, WITH THE LITHIUM BATTERIES, NOT TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW, CHANGES, IT'S STILL GONNA BE THE SAME ELECTRICITY THEY SAY IN POWER.
WHAT DO YOU RIP OUT FROM THE OLD, I MEAN, YOU'RE TAKING THE OLD CARTS OUT AND YOU'RE PUTTING IN NEW TECHNOLOGY.
SO THE, THE ACID BATTERIES, YOU NEED SIX BATTERIES.
WITH THE LITHIUM, IT'S LITERALLY JUST ONE BATTERY THAT PRETTY MUCH, UH, THE LIFESPAN THEY SAY SHOULD LAST ANOTHER YEAR.
I'M MORE TALKING ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE STORAGE.
THERE'S, THERE IS NO MAINTENANCE.
THERE'S ZERO MAINTENANCE TO A LITHIUM BATTERY.
PRETTY MUCH AT THE END OF THE NIGHT WE PLUG THE GOLF CART IN 'CAUSE WE'LL HAVE CHARGERS IN OUR BASE.
THAT'S WHAT, HOW MANY, YOU GOTTA ADD MORE CHARGERS AND, UH, 60, WE COULD FIT 62 GOLF CARTS.
UM, SO IT'D BE 62 CHARGERS AND 62 LITHIUM BATTERIES.
SO THEY'RE ALL IN THE GOLF CART.
SO AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, WE JUST LITERALLY PULL IT IN OUR CART BARN, PLUG IT INTO THE CHARGER AND LEAVE IT BE, THERE'S NO MORE WATERING, THERE'S NO MORE MAINTENANCE AT ALL.
MR. RUSO, IT'S A TESLA OF GOLF CARTS.
SO GOING, BEING PRAGMATIC, BEING A GOLFER MYSELF AS WELL TOO.
SO YOU GOT A GROUP ON THE T YOU GOT A GROUP IN THE FAIRWAY AND YOU GOT A GROUP ON THE GREEN.
SO ONE OF THE, SO THE CART STOPS IN FRONT OF THE GREEN BECAUSE
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IT'S GOING TOO FAR.NOW YOU'VE GOT TWO OTHER GROUPS BEHIND YOU AND THEN FIVE OTHER AND THEN 10 OTHER AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO WHAT'S THE TUTORIAL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TO THE GOLFER TO LET THEM KNOW SO THAT WHEN THEY'VE HAD FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN BEERS WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING, WHILE THEY'RE PLAYING, THEY DON'T GET POD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, START PUSHING THE CART OVER, YOU KNOW? SURE.
SO THE FIRST LINE OF ATTACK, OF COURSE, EVERY CART'S GONNA HAVE A PLACARD IT'S CALLED.
AND IT'S GONNA HAVE THE RULES, REGULATIONS OF WHAT TO EXPECT AND WHAT WE EXPECT.
THE SECOND LINE, OF COURSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SIGNAGE IN THE GOLF SHOP FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST X, Y, Z OF MONTHS.
THE THIRD LINE OF DEFENSE IS AT THE STARTER BOOTH.
MY STARTER'S GONNA INFORM EVERY GROUP THAT GOES OUT TO PLAY.
HERE'S OUR RULES, HERE'S OUR REGULATIONS.
IF YOUR GOLF CART TURNS OFF BECAUSE YOU GOT TOO CLOSE TO A RESTRICTED AREA, YOU WILL HAVE TO PUT IT IN REVERSE TO BACK OUT.
NOW, DO I EXPECT PHONE CALLS INTO THE PRO SHOP? MY CART BROKE DOWN.
BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO EDUCATE THE CUSTOMER AS MUCH AS WE CAN BEFORE THEY GET TO THAT FIRST HOLE.
AND THAT WAS GONNA BE MY, MY MAJOR CONCERN.
YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET A GROUP OUT THERE THAT ON THE GREEN AND THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE CORRECT.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA GONNA MOVE FOR ANOTHER FIVE, 10 MINUTES IN THE, IN THE, AND ME IN THE FAIRWAYS HITTING UP ON 'EM.
AND ALSO IN THE BEGINNING, I STILL WANT GET OUTTA THE WAY.
AND IN THE BEGINNINGS, I STILL WILL HAVE MY RANGER STAFF OUT THERE.
OF COURSE PATROLLING FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
MORE EDUCATION'S BETTER I BELIEVE IN THIS.
YOU KNOW, HAVE 'EM SIGN OFF BEFORE THEY TEE OFF, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STARTER, WHICH WE DO ALREADY.
SO I DON'T KNOW, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS UNTIL SURE.
IT BECOMES HABIT VERSUS, YOU KNOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTION, MAYOR? GOOD MA'AM? NOT SO MUCH YOUR QUESTION, BUT A COMMENT.
I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, WE, UM, HAD SOME MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WANTING TO CLOSE THE GOLF COURSES.
AND I VERY MUCH COMMEND, UM, NIKKI AND STAFF, UM, FOR TURNING IT AROUND AND MAKE IT, MAKING IT A PROFITABLE BUSINESS FOR OUR CITIZENS.
CAN I ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION? HOW MANY LEAGUES, MA'AM? HOW MANY LEAGUES DO YOU HAVE? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS NOT EVEN THE GOLF COURSES.
I HAVE, UH, LEAGUES MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
SO I'LL HAVE TWO ON MONDAY, TWO ON TUESDAY, TWO ON WEDNESDAY, AND ONE ON THURSDAY.
AND I STILL HAVE A WAITING LIST THAT I HAVE MORE LEAGUES THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME.
SIR, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4, 3, 3 2 WITH THE AMENDED, UM, UM, PROCESS THAT, UH, ADAM HAS UH, SPOKEN ABOUT.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. RUSO, SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR.
APPROVAL OF A PURCHASE OF 140 GOLF CARTS WITH PACE SHIELD SERVICES.
I, I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HANLEY, TAKEN BY MRS. KENNEDY.
UH, ALL THOSE THAT EVER SAY, AYE.
GOOD FOR, HEY, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
YOU TOOK OFF YOUR CLEATS BEFORE YOU CAME IN.
AT COUNCIL'S LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION REGARDING A REFERENCE CHANGE TO COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 36 RECOMMENDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.
THAT CHANGE WAS TO ADD THE PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LEAD BREVARD, AND WE VENTURE TO THE COUNCIL POLICY AS ORGANIZATIONS THAT THIS BODY FINDS SERVE AS A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE IN PROVIDING THAT THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE TO PREAUTHORIZED INTERESTED COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ATTEND EVENTS SPONSORED BY THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
DURING THAT DISCUSSION, YOU MAY RECALL ASKING, UM, TO SEE A BREAKDOWN OF POTENTIAL COSTS.
SO FOLLOWING THAT MEETING, UH, MY OFFICE REACHED OUT TO THOSE THREE, UH, AGENCIES AND ASKED FOR A DETAILED BREAKDOWN TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY OF EVENTS THAT THEY HOST THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND THE COST TO ATTEND THOSE EVENTS.
AND ONE THING I'LL ADD IS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE'S A MEMBER VERSUS A NON-MEMBER RATE.
AND FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN YOUR POLICY, THE CITY IS A, A PAYING MEMBER OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, UH, IF COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN PURSUING THE CHANGE, UH, I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S YOUR INTENTION TO JOIN THESE ORGANIZATIONS AS A MEMBER OR JUST SIMPLY ALLOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ATTEND, UH, AS THEY DESIRE.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A COST TO ATTENDING THESE EVENTS, WHICH WILL HIT THE COUNCIL'S TRAVEL AND PER DIEM BUDGET.
MY OFFICE MONITORS THAT BUDGET AND, UH, CAN MAKE A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT IF NEEDED.
AND SO THE REQUESTED ACTION WOULD BE TO REVISE COUNCIL POLICY 36.
AND I'D ALSO ASK THAT YOU MAKE THE VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE FINDING AS STATED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU'D
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LIKE TO GO.ANY QUESTIONS FOR, FOR MR. MCEWEN? GO AHEAD, MR. LUA.
UM, UH, KEVIN, THANK YOU, UH, FOR COMMUNICATING WITH ME TODAY ABOUT THE, UH, DIFFERENT COSTS.
UM, AND, UH, THE, UM, THREE PROPOSED THE, UH, UH, GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER, UM, LEAD AND WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE? UH, WE, WE VENTURE FLORIDA TECH METRO.
WE, UM, UM, IF, IF EVERYBODY WENT TO EVERY EVENT ON HERE, UH, WHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY, OF COURSE, UH, IT WOULD COST THE, UH, UH, A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT OF $23,000.
UM, CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE, WE PARTICIPATE IN SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES, THE EDC, UH, AND THE, UH, REGIONAL CHAMBER.
UH, AND OF COURSE THE DC UH, THE, UM, UH, TALLAHASSEE TRIPS.
AND THAT IS GENERALLY, UH, ATTENDED BY, UH, FOUR PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE OVER A HALF.
UH, SO, AND THAT COMES TO A TOTAL OF $9,480 A YEAR.
SO EVEN IF WE TOOK THE 23,000 AND SPLIT IT IN HALF TO 11 FIVE, IT STILL REPRESENTS MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE SPENDING RIGHT NOW, UH, AND FOR A CRITICAL, UH, VALID, UH, PUBLIC PURPOSE.
UM, I SEE FOR ONE THING, I I SEE A GALLEY COMING UP IN FRONT OF US WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER $50,000 IF WE FIND THAT, THAT THAT ADDITIONAL 50,000 IS, IS, UH, VALID.
I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS A BAD THING, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT TODAY, AS MS UH, LAMB, UH, PUSHED OUT, THERE WAS THAT, UH, GOVERNOR SIGNED, UH, HIS VERSION OF DOGE.
UM, WE ARE COMING INTO A, A, A DIFFERENT TIME AND SOME, UH, SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS, I DON'T THINK, UM, HAVE GONE THROUGH A BUDGET PROCESS YET.
SO I'M NOT SAYING TO SAY NO TO THIS, BUT I AM SAYING THAT IF WE CAN HOLD OFF UNTIL THE JUNE JULY CONVERSATIONS SO THAT WE CAN PLUG THE APPROPRIATE NUMBERS IN AND MAYBE APPROVE ONE OR TWO, UM, UH, ONE OR TWO, UH, ATTENDANCE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR, UH, MARCUS OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO GO TO ONE OR TWO OF THESE THINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WITH A CAP OF ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, A THOUSAND DOLLARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, TO, UH, ACTUALLY COME BACK WITH THE, UH, UH, THE STA THE STATISTICS AND THE VALUE OF IT.
UH, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
I'M NOT SAYING THROW BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER, BUT I AM ASKING THAT WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET INTO THE, UH, INTO, UH, BUDGET SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE IT'S MORE THAN HALF, UH, IT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE SPENDING NOW.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BRING US UP TO ABOUT 20,000 PLUS WITHOUT ANY OF THE, ALL, ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS HERE.
UH, CERTAINLY, UM, UH, I, I THANK, UM, UH, MR. SMITH FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE THAT WE ARE, THAT WE PROBABLY ARE MISSING.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY THING THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I, AND I, ME PERSONALLY, I THINK DURING A BUDGET PROCESS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA AS WELL.
BUT WOULD ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
UM, MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT, UH, I WORK FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SO, UM, IN A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE I WORK FOR, UH, ADULT ED, WHERE WE SERVICE FROM SOUTH PALM BAY ALL THE WAY UP TO TITUSVILLE.
UM, SO I DO GO TO QUITE A BIT OF THIS, UM, IN MY DAY JOB.
AND I JUST FIND THAT NOT EVERY SINGLE LUNCHEON OR EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY WOULD FIT A PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, UH, THE, OUR LOCAL CHAMBER, YES.
BUT THE PALM BAY CHAMBER, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT SERVES AS A PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
UM, NOT TO SAY THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE ONE EVENT HERE, ONE EVENT THERE THAT WOULD PERTAIN TO US, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT A BLANKET FOR THAT EXTRA WHATEVER, $20,000 RIGHT.
FOR THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND BRINGING THAT BACK, I MEAN THE PALM BAY CHAMBER, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T LIKE TO SAY THEY COMPETE AGAINST MELBOURNE, BUT THE REALITY IS IN THE WAY THEY DO, RIGHT? I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO JOIN THE, UH, THE, OUR LOCAL HISPANIC CHAMBER? I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA DO PALM BAY, WE DO THE PANIC MEAN, WHEN DID WE STOP? AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT TO ME, I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE IN A BUDGET, DURING A BUDGET PROCESS BECAUSE DURING THAT TIME WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING STUFF OUT, PUTTING STUFF BACK IN.
I JUST, TO ME, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU TOO.
DOES ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO GO TO, IT'S GOOD TO BE OUT THERE, BUT IS IT A TRUE, VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE? I DON'T, I DON'T
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KNOW.SO, SO MAYOR, UM, GOOD DISCUSSION.
UH, THE ONLY THE POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE, AND OF COURSE, UM, WITH THE, THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU ALL ARE, ARE, ARE REFERENCING IS THAT PALM BAY CHAMBER IN PARTICULAR, YOU, YOU, YOU JUST STATED IN COMPETITION WITH MELBOURNE.
SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF THOSE SAME BUSINESSES AND, UM, AND INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE THERE.
AND SO, AS I THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC GOOD, AND I THINK THAT IT'S STILL BEING SHAPED UP.
'CAUSE I, I DID ASK THAT QUESTION MYSELF AS I PRESENTED THE MEMO, BUT WHEN WE HAVE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, LOOKING AT US AS A LEADERSHIP POSITION, UH, I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD AND REPRESENTING.
SO THAT WAY, UH, 'CAUSE AT ALL OF THESE MEETINGS, THEY ALWAYS, UH, MAKE, UH, REFERENCE TO THE, UH, UH, CITY OFFICIALS THAT ARE THERE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS QUESTIONS.
AND, AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT ATTEND OUR MEETINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE OUT REPRESENTING, THEN WE GET THAT NEXT LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT.
SO, UM, I MEAN, I CAN'T REALLY QUANTIFY IT QUITE YET, BUT, UH, THE REASON WHY I ASKED IS BECAUSE IT WAS, UH, TO ACTUALLY SAY, LET'S GO AND SAY THAT GOODWILL, THAT VALID PUBLIC GOOD, THAT, THAT I SENSE THAT IT'S THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT, WHAT WE COULD DO WITH IT.
BUT, BUT EVERYTHING HAS A COST.
I MEAN, TECHNICALLY YOU CAN GO TO VENT EVERY NIGHT, EVERY NIGHT YOU CAN GO TO EVENT AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I TRY TO MORE FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND NERVE EVENTS AND, AND, UM, BUT, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DON'T GO TO THE REALLY, THE PALM BAY CHAMBERS BECAUSE I'M FOCUSED HERE IN MELBOURNE.
I FOCUSED ON THE SMALL BUSINESSES.
I GO TO SMALL BUSINESSES AND I REALLY, YOU KNOW, I REPRESENT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, NOT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND LAST THING, MARK, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, STICK IT IN IN A BOX AND PUT IT UP ON THE SHELF.
UM, BUT I AM UNTIL I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO, TO MM-HMM
GO AHEAD AND HAVE THAT YOUR DECISION AND BRING THAT TO US.
UM, UNTIL BUDGET TIME, WE HAVE NOT BELONGED TO THESE THREE ORGANIZATIONS MM-HMM
AND RIGHT NOW, WE ARE THE BEST IN BREVARD COUNTY.
SO I LOOK BACK AT US AND SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WITH WHAT WE HAVE, THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.
LET'S TALK ABOUT IT IN JUNE OR JULY.
WE WANT ANOTHER TOOL AFTER THAT, THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
I'M TELLING YOU GUYS, WE'RE COMING INTO HARD, HARD FINANCIAL, ECONOMIC INDICATORS OR ARE STARTING TO DROP.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY HOLD MY, UH, KEEP MY POWDER DRY OF SOURCE RIGHT NOW, RATHER THAN TO START SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST ABOUT SHORT OF RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT.
SO THAT, YEAH, NO, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR.
SO COME UP AT A BUDGET TALK AND MAYBE EVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE ORGANIZATIONS JUST FROM, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I WAS AT THE HBCA EVENT, UH, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK.
AND SO THE, THE THING IS, IS THAT WHAT DO WE, WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID WE'RE THE BEST, BUT WHAT IS THAT BASED ON, ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO,
SOMETIMES I'M ONLY JOKING, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL, YEAH.
ITEM 20 A APPOINTMENT OF FIFTH MEMBER OF THE GENERAL EMPLOYEE PENSION PLAN.
THE KEM CURRENT FIFTH MEMBER ROBERT TIG, HIS TERM EXPIRED ON FEBRUARY 21ST.
THE BOARD AT ITS FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING REAPPOINTED MR. TIG TO ANOTHER TWO YEAR TERM.
AND SO COUNSEL'S ACTION IS TO APPROVE THE BOARD'S REAPPOINTMENT OF ROBERT LAD AS ITS FIFTH MEMBER.
OPPOSED? PA MOTION PASSES AND 20 B IDENTICAL TO THE FIRST ITEM.
THIS IS THE POLICE OFFICER'S RETIREMENT TRUST FUND BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
THE CURRENT FIFTH MEMBER JANICE HILL, HER TERM ACTUALLY EXPIRED ON OCTOBER 31ST.
HOWEVER, THE BOARD HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO REACH A QUORUM UNTIL ITS FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING WHEN THE BOARD DID REAPPOINT MS. HILL TO ANOTHER TWO YEAR TERM.
AND SO COUNSEL'S ACTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE BOARD'S REAPPOINTMENT AS JAN OF JANICE HILL AS ITS FIFTH MEMBER.
SO MOVE SECOND OF A MOTION TO SECOND.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE, MOVE TO PETITIONS COMMUNICATION.
UM, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING THE OTHER DAY TO THE MELBOURNE FOUNDERS MUSEUM AT CRANE CREEK RIBBON CUTTING.
UM, IT WAS A VERY MOVING EVENT.
UM, WE LEARNED A LOT OF HISTORY, UM, OF THE, THE TRUE FOUNDERS OF MELBOURNE.
A LOT OF STUFF THAT I DIDN'T KNOW.
AND, UH, THE, THE TOUR OF THE LITTLE OLD SCHOOL HOUSE,
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UM, WAS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY COOL.THEY HAD LIKE A OVER A HUNDRED YEAR OLD, UH, BIBLE THERE, UH, AN OVEN FROM LIKE THE TWENTIES.
IT WAS, I WAS JUST ASTOUNDED BY THIS MUSEUM.
EVERYBODY SHOULD GO CHECK IT OUT.
UH, I WAS THERE AND, UH, THE ONE THING ABOUT THAT PLACE, THE, IT WAS, IT WAS A HOUSE THAT WAS WENT TO AS A CHURCH.
IT IS MADE OUT OF, AS ANYBODY KNOWS, MIAMI HARDWOOD.
AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MIAMI HARDWOOD, THE TERMITE, IF YOU WENT THROUGH THE HOUSE, THEY HAVE NO TERMITES BACK IN THE DAY.
THEY, THEY OVER, THEY'VE OVER AND CUT OVERCUT.
BUT IF YOU NOTICE, THAT HOUSE DID NOT HAVE ANY TERMITES WHEN THEY MOVED THE HOUSE.
AND AS SOON AS I WALKED IN THERE, I GO, THIS IS MIAMI PINE.
AND THEY WENT, WHAT? I SAID, THIS, THIS PLACE, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY TERMITES? AND THEY GO, NO, WE DIDN'T.
I SAID, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S MIAMI PINE, WHICH DOESN'T LIKE TERMITES.
SO THAT HOUSE WILL PROBABLY BE THERE FOR ANOTHER A HUNDRED YEARS BECAUSE OF HOW IT WAS BUILT AND WHAT IT WAS BUILT WITH.
AND IT'S TECH SEASON AND I'M GOING BACK TO WORK EARLY IN THE MORNING.
WELL, I'M GOING BACK TO WORK EARLY TOMORROW MORNING TOO, BUT I HAVE NOTHING GOOD.
UM, MAYOR, WE, UM, MELBOURNE ORDINANCE NUMBER 42, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ORDINANCES AND THAT, AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T REALLY HONED IN ON THE FEEDING IN THE PARK.
UH, HAD A, A CONVERSATION JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT.
SO, AND I THINK PREVIOUS MEETINGS, WE MAY HAVE ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK INTO THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NUMBER 42.
AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT MAYBE WE LOOK AT, UM, MAYBE NOT MAKING THE PARKS COMPLETELY NON SMOKING, BUT MAYBE HAVING DESIGNATED CIGARETTE AREAS SO THAT OUR, OUR PARK STAFF MAYBE, YOU KNOW, CAN BETTER COMPARTMENTALIZE WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE ONE POINT IF, IF EVERYBODY AGREES THAT WE COULD ASK CITY ATTORNEY AND STAFF TO LOOK INTO THE FEEDING ORDINANCES.
WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST ABOUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A YEAR AGO, RIGHT? TWO MORE, LITTLE FARTHER.
THE ONLY SITUATION IS IT'S NICE, BUT IT'S JUST TOO HARD TO IMPLEMENT IS, IS PARKING, YOU KNOW, THE SMOKING, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A POLICE THERE ALL THE TIME? AND JUST, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED.
IT WAS JUST TOO HARD TO IMPLEMENT INTO THE CITY.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE SUGGESTION FOR PARK CRET WAS JUST SIGNAGE.
I MEAN, YEAH, YOU CAN'T BE THERE ENFORCING ALL THE TIME, BUT EVEN WITH THE CREED SIGNAGE IN, UH, BUTT CANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, MAYBE YOU COULD CAPTURE SOME OF IT.
THAT WAS, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW.
BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE PARKS THAT ARE NO, YOU KNOW, NO SMOKING IN THE, IN THE STATE.
'CAUSE UH, THE CITY MANAGER, THE OLD CITY MANAGER FOR INDIAN HARBOR BEACH IS THE ONE WHO GOT THAT PASSED AND LEGISLATION A COUPLE YEARS AGO, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
MARCUS, UH, CAN I ASK FOR SOME CLARITY ON THE SMOKING PIECE TOO, NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT? UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SIMPLY JUST LIKE CIGARETTES AND CIGARS OR VAPING AS WELL? 'CAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE AN EVOLUTION ON THE WAY THAT PEOPLE SMOKE THESE DAYS AND ONE IS PROBABLY MORE SMELLIER THAN THE OTHER.
AND WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR VISION ON THIS? LIKE WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO GET AT? JUST, I WOULD SAY CIGARETTES AND CIGARS.
'CAUSE THE CI THE BUTTS WAS THE, THE POINT THAT I WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME AT THE PAVILIONS, THERE WERE CIGARETTE BUTTS EVERYWHERE.
SO IT'S MORE OF A LITTER ISSUE.
AND THERE'S, BUT, BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, MARCUS, THEY HAVE STILL USE, I I WILL SAY MARCUS THOUGH.
SO I GO TO CRUNCH FITNESS OVER, UM, IT'S NOT IN MELBOURNE GYM, IT'S A WEST PALMER GYM, BUT THERE WERE THREE EMPTY CARTRIDGES OF, UM, VAPES HANGING AROUND RIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT.
SO THEY DO ACTUALLY TOSS THEM ON THE GROUND.
SO WE MAY, YOU KNOW, JUST THINK ABOUT IT.
SO THERE'S AN EXCEPTION IN THE STATE LAW THAT AUTHORIZES US TO MAKE PARKS OR PORTIONS OF PARKS NON-SMOKING THAT ACCEPTS OUT UNFILTERED CIGARS.
SO A REGULAR CIGAR IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE SUBJECT TO ANY NON-SMOKING, UH, REGULATION THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND SO I, I HAVE A REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION ON DIRECTION.
ARE WE, ARE WE ASKING THE PARKS DIRECTOR TO IDENTIFY PARKS OR AREAS OF PARKS THAT, THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO POTENTIALLY SUBMIT AS NON-SMOKING AREAS? IS THAT, BUT WE, BUT IF, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, UH, WE TALKED THIS, IT WAS A WHILE BACK AND WE COULDN'T DO CIGARS.
WE CAN'T BUY STEP BY STATE WHILE WE CAN'T.
DO WE, HOW DO WE, SO WE GOTTA HAVE OUR OFFICERS DETERMINE WHETHER THEY'RE SMOKING A CIGARETTE OR A CIGAR.
OR, OR, OR ANOTHER, OR ANOTHER SMOKING OR ANOTHER TYPE OF DEVICE.
WELL, MAYOR FI GUYS TALKED ABOUT THIS PRIOR.
WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF WHAT YOU GUYS GOT THERE? DO YOU RECALL? WE, UH, IT, IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT WET COULDN'T, COULDN'T DETERMINE.
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WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING? SO YOU GO UP AND SAY, OH, YOU'RE SMOKING A CIGAR, THAT'S OKAY.BUT IF IT'S A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN'T THERE.
UM, I THINK THAT THE, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE SO MUCH, UH, LAID ON THE CHIEF'S SHOULDERS, BUT MORE IF WE, UH, HAD, UH, PUT SIGNAGE UP AROUND THE, UH, PLAYGROUNDS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PARENTS WHO ARE GONNA BE THE CITIZENS, UH, WHO ARE GONNA BE, UH, TAKING ISSUE WITH ANYBODY WHO'S SMOKING.
SO NOW IF WE SAY NO SMOKING IN THIS AREA, AND CIGARS ARE ALLOWED AND CIGARETTES ARE NOT, WHAT PARENTS GONNA MAKE THE DISTINGUISH IS GONNA DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO, UNLESS IT'S O OBVIOUSLY POSTED, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN ARGUMENT WITH A PARENT, BECAUSE I'M A 80-YEAR-OLD GUY HAVING A, UH, HAVING A CIGAR.
YOU KNOW? SO I MEAN, SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS ON THAT.
UH, SO, UM, UH, THAT'S MY, MY PUSHBACK RIGHT NOW THAT THAT'LL BE THE ONLY THING I'D BE, 'CAUSE MY, MY DAUGHTER WILL BE IN YOUR FACE IF YOU'RE SMOKING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU KNOW, GET, GET YOUR CIGARETTE OUTTA HERE.
I'M SURE ANY MOTHER OR ANY FATHER WOULD BE THE SAME THING.
AND I, FROM MY STANDPOINT, BIG PICTURE, I THINK THIS IS MORE ABOUT SIGNAGE THAN IT IS JUST IF WE GET INTO THE, THE NITPICKY OF THE, OF THE RULE FROM RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK THAT IF WE MAYBE SET, UH, STANDARD TO SAY THAT NO, ONLY SMOKING ONLY IN THESE CERTAIN AREAS OR NO SMOKING, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE BACK TO THE CIGAR.
WHO'S GONNA BE THE CIGAR? WHO'S GONNA BE, IS IT VAPING? ARE THEY CONSIDERED VAPING? THIS, IT, IT'S JUST OPENING UP ARGUMENTS AND PROBLEMS THAT WE DON'T REALLY, WE GOT ENOUGH ENOUGH WITH THE HOMELESS AT THE MOMENT.
LET'S TAKE ONE THING AT A TIME.
SO, BUT, BUT MY QUESTION RIGHT NOW WOULD BE, DO WE HAVE THAT PROBLEM NOW? DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN OUR PARKS WITH THE SMOKING? I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE OUR, OUR PARKS DIRECTOR CAN COME BACK AND LET US KNOW.
I MEAN, IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, WHY ARE WE CHASING US? IT WAS A PROBLEM A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
THEY'RE THE ONE, AND THERE WAS A PROBLEM RECENTLY BECAUSE THEY WERE HAVING TO PICK UP ALL THE RIGHT OR USE A LITTLE PICKER OR, AND THERE WAS NO CAN.
IT TOOK LIKE A LOT OF THEIR TIME.
LAMB, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE, UM, DISCUSSED THE CHANGES IN THE PARK REGULATIONS WITH, UM, THE DIRECTORS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PARKS AND REC BROUGHT UP WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT CAN WE CONSIDER NO SMOKING? THEY DID MENTION THE LITTERING AND THEY MENTIONED THE, YOU KNOW, THEIR DESIRE TO HAVE, TO HAVE SOMETHING CHANGED.
BUT WHEN WE DID TALK ABOUT THE NO CAMPING REGULATIONS, I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING WE JUST DISCUSSED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THAT'S WHEN WE SAID, LET'S BRING SMOKING BACK AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
DO YOU WANT TO JUST, SO WHAT, WHAT IF WE MAKE THE DIRECTION THAT WE'LL LEAVE IT UP TO OUR PARKS DIRECTOR TO BRING THAT BACK AS, AS THEY DEEMED APPROPRIATE? JUST A PRE A PRESENTATION AT THE VERY LEAST.
I MEAN, SOMETHING LIKE, THAT'D BE FINE.
JUST A PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND AGAIN, I STARTED THIS ABOUT THE, THE FEEDING
SO ANY QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THAT CON WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION OF WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LOOK AT? WHAT, WHAT ASPECT OF OUR LARGE GROUP FEEDING ORDINANCES, UM, ARE, UH, CONCERNING OR WOULD YOU LIKE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH OR REPORTING ON MAYOR MA'AM? GOOD.
UM, IN, IN MY THOUGHTS, MR. CONNELLEY IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN LIMIT TO CERTAIN AREAS OF THEM BEING ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THE FOOD AS IN NOT ON SOMEBODY'S FRONT PORCH, NOT ON SOMEBODY'S FRONT LAWN, NOT ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO DIFFERENT EXISTENTIAL, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT FROM FEEDINGS IN THE PARKS, RIGHT? SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT OF WAY AREAS AND, AND OTHER THINGS.
I I, AND I, AGAIN, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT.
I WANT TO TEMPER EXPECTATIONS, RIGHT? BECAUSE RIGHT.
UM, THE EXCHANGE OF GOODS IS VERY HARD TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN FAMILY MEMBERS HANDING SOMEONE SOMETHING THEY JUST BOUGHT FROM THE GROCERY STORE AND SOMEONE ELSE TRYING TO DONATE AN ITEM, YOU KNOW, OUT OF, OUT OF GOODWILL.
AND SO THE, THE, THE ABILITY TO WRITE A REGULATION THAT WILL NOT BE OVERLY EXPANSIVE ON CONDUCT, THAT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING TO REGULATE
SO, AND, AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE A PICTURE IN YOUR HEAD OF WHAT IN MY MIND I'M TRYING TO AVOID IS THE CAR, THE VAN, THE TRUCK, THE WHATEVER PULLING UP TO JUST IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE AND THEN THE MASSES COME AND NO DOUBT.
AND, AND WE'VE, THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I'M GOING.
AND PURSUANT TO PREVIOUS, UH, COUNCIL DIRECTION, WE ARE ACTIVELY RESEARCHING WHETHER OR NOT THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS CAN BE REGULATED PURSUANT TO EXISTING CODE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE FOR FOOD DISPENSING VEHICLES.
RIGHT? SO THE SAME REGULATIONS THAT MAY APPLY TO AN ICE CREAM TRUCK, DOES IT APPLY IN THE OTHER SCENARIO THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING? SO MY OFFICE IS ACTIVELY RESEARCHING THAT.
SO HOPING TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL ON THAT AND, AND BE ABLE TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO CITY STAFF ON WHETHER OR NOT THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE ALREADY SUBJECT TO THAT EXISTING REGULATION
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THAT MAY ADDRESS THINGS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.AND, AND ON, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PRIVATE PROPERTIES IN THAT, UM, THE, THE PARKS ARE A LITTLE BIT OF A, A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE IS LANGUAGE IN CHAPTER 42 FOR THAT, THE, THE HOURS OF DAY, THE PERMIT REQUIREMENT, THE THE ELIGIBLE PARKS, THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS THAT, THAT THE PARK STAFF CAN PUT ON THOSE, THOSE PERMITS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT LANGUAGE EXISTS AND HAS EXISTED FOR SOME TIME BASED ON FEDERAL CASE LAW, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC, RIGHT? SO SOME OF THAT REGULATION IS, IS TRYING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT EXISTING FEDERAL CASE LAW.
SO I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION IS HOW DO WE, UH, GIVE OUR PARKS AND REC PEOPLE AND OUR OFFICERS THE ABILITY TO, WHEN THERE'S, UM, THE MASSIVE FOOD FEEDINGS IN OUR PARKS THAT MIGHT NOT BE, UH, ADHERING TO OUR POLICIES, PROCEDURES, ORDINANCES, THAT ARE SORT OF BURIED SOMEWHERE.
UM, HOW DO WE GIVE THEM THE TOOLS AND THE KNOWLEDGE TO ACT? DOES THAT MAKE, AM I MAKING SENSE? YEAH.
UH, I MEAN, UH, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO HELP THEM IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THE CODE AND, AND YOU KNOW, REVIEWING THEIR INTERNAL POLICIES AND REGULATIONS ON HOW THEY'RE, HOW THEY'RE PROCESSING PERMITS, HOW THEY'RE MAKING THOSE UNDERLYING DECISIONS BEYOND THAT, IT'S A, IT'S TRULY A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, RIGHT? AND THEN IT'S SUBJECT TO OUR LIMITED RESOURCES FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AS IT AS IT IS.
AND I, AND I'LL SAY THE REASON FOR ME TO BRING IT UP IS BECAUSE WE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING MORE STRENGTH TO SOME OF THE ORDINANCES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DAILY BREAD CLOSING.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSITION CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING AND WE JUST, FROM MY STANDPOINT, WE JUST DIDN'T REALLY TOUCH ON THIS.
SO IT'S ALMOST, WELL, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW AT THE TIME THAT WE, THAT THE ORDINANCE EVEN ALLOWED FOR ZERO TO 15 OR, YOU KNOW, GREATER THAN 15.
SO I THINK MAYBE IT'S MORE EVEN JUST A REVIEW AND HOW IT FITS INTO THE OVERALL PICTURE IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU ALL ARE RESEARCHING AND MAYBE PROPOSING, BECAUSE I, WE, WE, WE ALMOST, WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON IT, YOU KNOW, DURING SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION.
UM, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, ONE ON THE, ON THE PERMITTED PUBLIC FEEDING PORTION, THE ISSUE ISN'T NECESSARILY THE LAWS 'CAUSE THEY'RE ON THE BOOKS.
'CAUSE YOU NEED TO LITERALLY WITNESS THIS EVENT OCCUR.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RESIDENT CALL 9 1 1, GO AND SEE IT, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT PERMITTED.
I THINK THAT THE CURRENT PERMITS ARE PROBABLY FINE.
WHAT I'M HEARING THOUGH FROM MS. KENNEDY AND OTHERS PERHAPS, IS THAT MAYBE IT'S A OBSTRUCTING OF PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY AS OPPOSED TO OUR PERMITS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ANGLE YOU'VE LOOKED AT AT, UM, DOES THAT SOUND LIKE MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER TRACK BECAUSE THEY'RE OBSTRUCTING A SIDEWALK OR OBSTRUCTING, UH, THE STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WOULD THAT BE BETTER? YEAH.
AGAIN, THE ROUTE FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE RE THE REGULATIONS ON THE MOBILE STREET VENDING, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT DESCRIBE WHERE YOU CAN PARK, HOW LONG YOU CAN PARK THERE, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THE, SO THAT'S AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT MY OFFICE IS ACTIVELY REVIEWING IS CAN WE ENFORCE THOSE REGULATIONS ON VE YOU KNOW, THOSE, I WILL SAY THOSE, THOSE REGULATIONS WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED, I'M SURE FOR COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL FOOD TRUCKS AND, AND COMMERCIAL PEDALERS, RIGHT? SO IT, IT WASN'T MAYBE NECESSARILY ORIGINALLY INTENDED A PARTICULAR WAY.
THAT BEING SAID, IT MAY STILL APPLY IN THESE SCENARIOS WHERE IT'S A, IT'S A GOODWILL DONATION AND NOT A, A COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.
SO STILL LOOKING INTO THAT SO THAN MAYBE THE BETTER THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS HE SHOULD JUST LET US KNOW WHEN HE'S DONE WITH HIS RESEARCH, WHAT HE IS LOOKING AT AND, OKAY.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR, TWO FINAL THINGS.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT OUR GRANT WRITING PROCESS IS.
I WAS, UH, IN WITH, UH, PARTS AND WRITING IT GAVE ME A LIST OF DIFFERENT GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
AND I KNOW THAT WE, OUR STAFF DOES A, A WONDERFUL JOB, BUT, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY IS A, IS A LEGITIMATE THING.
SO, UM, I I, I BRING THIS UP TO THE COUNCIL AND, AND MAYBE TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MAYBE LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IS OUR GRANT WRITING PROCESS AND MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT MAKING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST.
'CAUSE IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO, UH, MAYBE MAKE AN INVESTMENT AND WE ARE ABLE TO DOUBLE TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF GRANTS THAT WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, UH, LEGITIMATE THING FOR US TO CONSIDER.
DID YOU GET WITH, WANNA GET WITH STAFF ON THAT OR, OKAY.
YES, WE CAN, WE CAN COMPILE SOMETHING ABOUT OUR PROCESS AND, AND OKAY.
AND, AND FINALLY, MAYOR, UH, NOT ONLY I WENT TO THE, UH, FOUNDER'S MUSEUM, BUT ALSO WAS AT THE, UH, FOUNDER'S BREAKFAST, UH, THAT MORNING.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, ATTENDING THAT.
AND, UM, AND WE, IT, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE COME UP ABOUT THE LOCATION AT RIVERVIEW PARK AND IT WAS REALLY, REALLY TOUCHING TO, TO SEE THE SUPPORT THAT WAS THERE.
AND, UH, BUT I I, I'M, I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE WE COULD, UH, HELP TO HIGHLIGHT THAT HISTORY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
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EXACTLY SURE WHAT I'M ASKING, BUT I MEAN, IT, WE, MOMENTUM IS BUILDING, UH, WE HAVE THE, THOSE ORIGINAL SETTLERS OF MELBOURNE.SO, UM, MAYBE TALKING ABOUT THE, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, MAKE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GOOD FOR CULTURAL TOURISM FOR THE AREA, FOR RIVERVIEW PARK.
SO, UM, MY FINAL POINT, SO, OKAY, AND, AND I'LL PIGGYBACK REAL QUICK ON THAT.
UH, AND, UM, I HAD MET MOVIE COMING OUT, THE MOVIE I'D MET WITH FOR THAT LOT OF MOMENTUM DAY.
I MET WITH THE, UH, THE FILM, THE FILM CREW.
UH, THEY'RE LOOKING TO INVEST $8 MILLION IN A, IN A, IN A GOOD FILM.
UH, AND IT WOULD BE A, IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO, NOT A DOCUMENTARY, A FILM.
IT'S NOT REALLY A DOCUMENTARY.
BUT IT'S GOT A LOT OF POINTS TO IT ABOUT HOW IT WAS LIVING BACK THEN.
AND THEY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, DID, DID YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MET WITH HIM.
I DID, BUT IT WAS A VERY, VERY INTERESTING FILM.
SO IT, IT WOULD BE, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT MOVIE TOO.
AND I MEAN THE, THE PRODUCER WHO WE MET WITH, HE, HE'S FEELING LIKE OSCAR, BECAUSE AGAIN, I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S A DEPICTION AND NOT A NECESSARILY A DOCUMENTARY.
STORYTELLING AND, YOU KNOW, PERIOD FILM AND IT'S ALL GONNA BE MADE RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT'S WHY I MAKE THAT POINT THAT IT WOULD, I THINK, BEHOOVE US TO GET OUT IN FRONT AND SAY ALL THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
AND AS WE BRING MORE AND MORE OPPORTUNITY HERE, SO, WELL, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA BE HAVING THE EVENT AT FLORIDA TECH APRIL 11TH.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK ON, MAYBE DO THAT WE GIVE BACK THE COUNCIL SO THEY CAN POSSIBLY ATTEND ON THAT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I WENT TO, UH, UH, PAUL GOLEMAN'S, UM, VIEWING AND THEN, UH, UH, ROLLED INTO, UH, THE, UH, CELEBRATION OF I, UH, PRESENTED, UM, MS. GULMAN, UH, PAM, UH, WITH THE PLAQUE, UH, THAT WERE GONNA HANG OUT HERE.
UH, BUT SHOWED IT TO HER AND DESCRIBED IT TO HER AND, AND THEN TOOK IT BACK, OF COURSE, UH, UH, GAVE HER THE FLAG AND THE CERTIFICATE AS WELL TOO.
AND THERE, THERE WE WERE A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AND THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH CRYING BY THE TIME I GOT DONE.
UM, AND, UH, THE PARK, UM, UH, I GOT A COMMITMENT FROM HIS, UH, LAW PARTNERS IN, UH, FORT LAUDERDALE THAT THEY WILL COME UP AND THEY WILL, UM, UH, DEDICATE, UH, ANY SIZE PLAQUE, ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN THAT PARK.
SO THEY, THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET THAT AS WELL TOO.
SO I JUST WANT TO TRY AND IDENTIFY, UM, AND I'LL DO THAT WITH, UH, MS. SLAM OFFLINE, BUT, UH, THE PLAQUE HANGING CEREMONY FOR, UH, MS. GULMAN HERE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, ONCE THE PAPERWORK IS DONE, UH, WE, UH, MOVE TOWARDS THE RENAMING OF THAT PARK AS WELL TOO.
UM, SO, UH, SOONER THE BETTER, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PUT EVERYTHING IN INTO CLOSURE.
UM, I RAN ACROSS SOMETHING, UH, THAT, UH, NOW THAT'S DONE.
KEVIN, WOULD YOU MIND, CAN YOU HIT THE BUTTON? HIT THE BUTTON.
SO THERE'S A PROGRAM OUT IN DUNEDIN, UH, THAT THEY ARE, UH, CAN YOU OPEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE OR, WELL, WE CAN SEE IT ON OUR SCREEN.
YOU SEE THAT AS THE DRAIN? OKAY.
FOR, UH, AND IT'S PAINTED IS, IT'S REMINISCENT TO ME OF THE POSTS WHEN YOU GO DOWN MELBOURNE AVENUE THAT, UH, HOLD UP, UM, UH, US ONE BRIDGE.
IS IT STILL HOLDING UP OR, I MEAN, YEAH.
UM, AND I WANTED TO JUST ASK, UM, UH, OUR STAFF TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CHALLENGES THAT WE'LL WE'LL RECEIVE.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT AND, AND PAINT A MURAL ON THE SIDE OF A, ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING WITHOUT GETTING PERMISSION, A SPECIAL, UH, UH, DISPENSATION, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE BOARDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND I WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN POSSIBLY HAND SOMETHING LIKE THIS OFF TO, UH, EGA OR TO, UH, MAIN STREET MELBOURNE, UM, OR ANOTHER ORGANIZATION AND TRY TO, UM, UH, SMOOTH THE, THE WATERS SO THAT, UH, SOME OF THE ART STUDENTS AND WHOEVER, UH, COULD START DOING STUFF.
UH, THIS TYPE OF, UH, PUBLIC ART, UH, AROUND OUR TOWN.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY, IT, IT, IT WAS PRETTY COOL.
UH, IT KIND OF CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE.
AND SO, AND IT'S EVEN SANCTIONED BY THE, UH, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME LEEWAY IN, IN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD PAINT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER'S FACE ON A, ON A, ON A SEWER TOO, YOU KNOW.
UH, SO, UH, FIRST THING AND UM, THIS IS FOR CHIEF AND JENNY AND CHIEF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP.
JUST, UH, THERE WAS A RESIDENT THAT APPROACHED ME BEFORE I WALKED UP HERE.
THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, WEST BREVARD DRIVE OVER THERE BY TOYOTA.
I GUESS THERE'S BEEN LIKE A STRING OF LITTLE INCIDENTS OR LIKE PETTY THEFT AND SOME NOISE THINGS.
AND, UM, THE ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL, SHE JUST DIDN'T FEEL SAFE IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD.
SHE JUST ASKED IF WE MIGHT JUST TAKE A LOOK, SEE IF EVERYTHING'S OKAY, AND JUST
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WANNA MAKE SURE I PUT THAT OUT THERE AND SAID IF I'VE, YOU KNOW, CLOGGED UP ANOTHER EMAIL.UM, NUMBER TWO, UH, I WAS APPROACHED BY A BUSINESS OWNER IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE.
UM, THEY ARE INTERESTED REGARDING NEW YEAR'S EVE.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW.
SO STATE LAW ON NEW YEAR'S EVE, UH, ALLOWS FOR BARS TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 3:00 AM AS OPPOSED TO THE USUAL 2:00 AM THEY'RE LOOKING FOR JUST A ONE DAY EXTENSION, UM, TO BE, UH, EITHER PERMITTED OR JUST ADDED IN, UH, BY STAFF, HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT, SO THAT THEY COULD STAY OPEN UNTIL 3:00 AM ON THAT ONE SPECIFIC EVENING.
UM, I WAS WONDERING IF IT'S POSSIBLE, UH, FOR US TO DIRECT STAFF TO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THAT CODE AND UPDATE IT SO THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE SAME AS STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS 'EM TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 3:00 AM IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN COUNSEL FOR US TO DO THAT? MAYOR, I LIKE THAT.
AS IN NEW YEAR'S EVE OR NEW YEAR'S EVE? NEW YEAR'S.
WELL, THE 3:00 AM OF NEW YEAR'S DAY IS TECHNICALLY HOW IT'S WRITTEN SO WELL, SINCE THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY, I'M OFF.
WHERE'S THE PARTY? YEAH, SO, NO, I, I I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
I MEAN IT'D BE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S STATE LAW.
I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY JUST BEING SIMILAR WITH THEM.
UM, DID YOU GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED, JENNY? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT PRIOR.
SO I WAS IN CHARLESTON OVER THE WEEKEND, UH, AT A LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE.
IT WAS REALLY GREAT LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING ALONG SOME OF THE CONNECTIONS AND INFORMATION THAT I HAD BROUGHT BY.
UH, ONE THING IN PARTICULAR THOUGH THAT JUST REALLY KIND OF HIT ME AS FAR AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON, THEIR ROADS WERE A LITTLE ROUGH.
UM, IT WAS REALLY ROUGH TO DRIVE ON JUST BASED ON MAINTENANCE AND THINGS.
SO JUST GOING INTO BUDGET WHILE WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET, I DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR ROADS, UM, LOOKING INTO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
'CAUSE GOSH, I'D HATE IF WE HAD CHARLESTON'S ROADS.
UH, NUMBER FOUR, UM, I HELD A TOWN HALL MEETING REGARDING THE PROVIDENCE PLACE OVER AT MAKOTO.
UM, THANK YOU MS FOR BEING HERE, BY THE WAY.
UM, AND FOR HOSTING IT, IT WAS VERY WONDERFUL.
UH, GOT TO HEAR FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS AS WELL AS BUSINESS OWNERS ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS, THOUGHTS, AND IDEAS.
UM, I'LL BE BRINGING THOSE IDEAS TO COUNCIL WHEN THE PROVIDENCE PLACE, UH, PORTION COMES UP, UH, FOR VOTE.
BUT, UH, JUST GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE'S PARTICIPATION AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HEAR PEOPLE OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD IN THIS PROCESS.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, I GOT TO GO TO THE MELBOURNE MUNICIPAL BAND'S, UH, 60TH.
WHAT DIAMOND, UH, 50TH DIAMOND ANNIVERSARY.
AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM AND WELL JUST, I WANT GIVE THEM A CONGRATULATIONS FROM THE DIOCESE AND WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT THEY'RE HERE, MAYOR.
I ALSO WENT TO THE MUNICIPAL BAND, UM, AS WELL.
I DID THE DAY ONE, ONE NIGHT, AND YOU DID THE OTHER NIGHT.
UM, ALSO WENT TO THE COUPLE EVENTS.
ONE WAS, UH, KELLY FORD HAD THEIR 50TH ANNIVERSARY WENT TO THAT THEY HAD A, FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES REALLY GOOD EVENT OUT IN CAMP.
UM, THE ONLY THING I HAVE TONIGHT IS REAL QUICK, I JUST, UM, WE, WE GOT A, I'M KIND OF PERPLEXED ON, ON WHAT STATE'S DOING RIGHT NOW.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN, I'VE GOT YOUR EMAIL, JENNY FROM, I GUESS THE OFFICER OF THE GOVERNOR EXECUTIVE ORDER REGARD REGARDING A STATE DOGE AND, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES AND STUFF AND TO BE TRANSPARENT AND ALL KIND OF ODD TO ME.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I, I'VE BEEN TO TALLAHASSEE AND CALLED FOR JAC AUDIT AND TO ME DOGE IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY ALREADY DO.
NOW, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE JAC AUDIT REPORT, MOST OF 'EM ARE UNIVERSITIES AND ANYTHING THAT THEY, ANY, ANY REPRESENTATIVE OR SENATOR CAN BRING SOMETHING TO 'EM AND YOU GO IN FRONT AND, AND THEY DO, AND PALM BAY BEEN AUDITED US, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW WHAT DIFFERENT, THIS WILL BE DOGE.
MAYBE THEY'RE JUST RUNNING PIGGYBACK ON WHAT THE NATIONAL LEVEL'S DOING.
AND UH, SECOND THING IS, UH, THE KIND OF WAR RIGHT NOW ON, ON PROPERTY TAX, UH, I KNOW IT'S VERY POPULAR TO SAY LET'S JUST GET RID OF PROPERTY TAX.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, MY STANCE IS, IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR PROPERTY TAX GOES TO A POLICE AND FIRE, UH, 117% WITH CAPITAL OUTLAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T NEED TO PAY PROPERTY TAX ANYMORE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF CONCERNING BECAUSE IT WOULD DEFUND OUR POLICE AND FIRE.
THERE'S NO IF SANDS OR BUTS, MATTER OF FACT, UM, IT WENT, IT WENT OUT TODAY.
ONE OF THE, I THINK A CHANNEL TWO OR CHANNEL SIX PUT SOMETHING OUT THAT THEY DID A STUDY IN, IN, IN ORDER TO, UM, BE COMPETITIVE, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ABOUT A 14% SALES TAX IN THIS STATE.
IT'S 26, WELL, AT LEAST TO 14.
BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS NOT IS MA'AM THE BIGGEST, BIGGEST ISSUE IN THAT.
THE FACT IS THEN ANY OF THE VETERANS LOSE THEIR EXEMPTIONS.
RIGHT? UH, SENIORS WOULD LOSE THEIR EXEMPTIONS.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT HERE, I KNOW
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THEY, THEY'VE BEEN IN THEIR HOUSE A LONG TIME, THEY DON'T PAY NEAR AS TAXES AS SOMEBODY WITH A NEWER HOME.SO, UH, SO I, AGAIN, I JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IS GONNA BE DOING, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY YOU GOT SOMETHING ON THAT, JENNY? NOT ON THIS ISSUE.
I HAVE A, A AT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IN DECEMBER WHEN I WENT TO THE ONE CONFERENCES YEAH, YOUR MIC.
UM, THEY WERE SAYING, 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE TAX WAS THE ONE THING THAT I WENT TO AND THEY WERE SAYING IT WAS GONNA BE 26% SALES TAX IF WE GOT RID OF, UM, PROPERTY TAXES.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY WAS 21.
BUT THE, IT WAS 21, BUT THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE.
IT REALLY WAS UP TO LIKE THE 26% TIME.
I DID ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING.
IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO HAVE OUR LOBBYISTS STRONGLY ADVOCATE AGAINST? UH, ANY OF THESE BILLS? YES.
I JUST WANTED, LEE WAS DOING IT TOO.
THE LEAGUE WAS DOING GOING WHEN I WENT TO THE DECEMBER CONFERENCE, THEY WERE, THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR BIG, UH, PUSHES THAT IS AGAINST THE, UH, SALES TAX.
WELL, WELL, AND, AND, AND MY ISSUE, IT SOUNDS GREAT.
YOU KNOW, I, I OWN A HOME AND I DON'T WANT TO PAY PROPERTY TAX EITHER, BUT WHEN IT SOUNDS SO GOOD WHERE YOU GOT A PALM BAY CITY OF FISH CITY COUNCILMAN, THEN YEAH, LET'S DO IT.
AND HE'S NEVER EVEN BEEN THROUGH A, A, A, A BUDGET PROCESS.
I MEAN, LET'S, LET'S BE REALISTIC.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST ALL I GOTTA SAY.
I JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, TO CHIME IN ON THE CONVERSATION IS THAT I THINK THIS IS ALL POSTURING FOR 2026.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE HEARING A LOT OF RIGHT NOW IS A LOT OF RHETORIC.
UH, A LOT OF, UH, SEE WHO CAN, WHAT CAN, HOW CAN KIND OF THING AND SEE WHAT STICKS ON THE WALL AND SEE WHAT DOESN'T STICK.
SO I I, I'M CONCERNED OF COURSE, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THIS IS, WE'RE ALREADY HEARING ABOUT CASEY, UH, DESANTIS RUNNING VERSUS, UH, BRIAN DONALD.
SO, AND, AND SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CAMPS.
AND SO WHO CAN OUT, WHO CAN OUT CAMP THE, THE OTHER CAMP KIND OF THING? YOU KNOW, I, I TALKED TO, UH, CHAIRMAN FELTNER, UH OH ABOUT THIS.
AND HE WAS EVEN STATING THEY TRIED THIS MANY YEARS AGO AND IT WAS A CATASTROPHE.
SO IT WAS VERY HIGH ON THE SALES TAX WHERE EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, UM, JUST RAN OFF WITH IT.
BUT, BUT AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS IT SOUNDS SO GOOD AND YOU SEE ANY OF THE CHAT WHERE YEAH.
AND, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THIS DOGE NOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AT THIS CITY IS ON OUR CITY WEBSITE.
WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, LIKE MR. RUSSO SAID TONIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S WAIT TILL THE BUDGET PROCESS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE TIGHTEN OUR PIN.
WE HAVE THE LOWEST TAX MILLAGE IN THE LAST, IN THIS 10 YEAR HISTORY.
I MEAN, THIS COUNCIL, EVERY ONE OF YOU I KNOW PUT IN WORK AND, AND YOU NITPICK STUFF.
SO JUST THE INFERENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST THROWING MONEY OUT THERE AND WE'RE JUST IRREGULAR, YOU KNOW, SPENDING IT, UH, JUST, IT JUST, JUST IT TO ME.
IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S UNSETTLING.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT, UH, MY COLLEAGUE AT THE END DOWN THERE, UH, MRS. SANDERS, UH, KENNEDY.
UM, THAT, UH, UH, THAT, UH, SHE IS, UH, SEEING A LOT OF THIS, UM, TRANSPIRING UP IN TALLAHASSEE AS WELL TOO.
SO, UM, I JUST WISH YOU A LOT OF LUCK WITH THAT.
AND, AND TALLAHASSEE HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO ERODE HOME RULE AND THEY'VE WORKED ON IT AND WORKED ON IT AND WORKED ON IT.
SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PROPOSED, UH, NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF SORTS.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I WILL EVERY DAY AND, AND IF ANYBODY KNOWS MS. KENNEDY, THANK MRS. KENNEDY.
MS. KENNEDY, YOU DO KNOW, I'M SORRY, YOU KNOW THE PROPERTY TAX THAT GOES THROUGH THE SCHOOLS AS WELL.
WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE SCHOOLS? YEAH, YEAH, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP? 'CAUSE THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THAT.
IS THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY WANT THE TOURIST TO PAY MORE.
THAT WAS THE REASON BEING THAT THEY WOULD PUT THE 20, THE 26% ON IT WOULD BE THE TOURIST WOULD BE PAYING A LARGER PERCENT OF, OF OUR STATE BUDGET.
BUT THEN IF YOU HAVE, BUT THE OTHER THING IS THOUGH, YOU PUT THAT HIGH OF PEOPLE WON'T BE COMING, ARE GOING TO, OUR THEME PARKS ARE COMING DOWN HERE TO THE BEACHES OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
THERE'S OTHER PLACES TO GO OTHER THAN TO FLORIDA.
THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MR. LARUSSO ABOUT THE SAME THING, THAT WAS, SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD, A GREAT IDEA, PUT THE SALES TAX 'CAUSE THEY SAID, WELL THEN TOURISTS CAN PAY.
AND THAT, THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE WHERE WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, BUT THEY, THEY COME DOWN AND THEY GET THE,
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UM, HOTEL TAXES AND SOME OF THE OTHER, IN ORANGE COUNTY, THEY HAVE OTHER ADDITIONAL TAXES.SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE NOT PAYING.
WELL, WELL, AND THEN THEY ALSO, UH, THEY WERE SAYING IF THERE'S A DOWN YEAR, WE HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO RAISE THE SALES TAX UP EVEN HIGHER IF IT'S A DOWN YEAR YEAR, BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE THAT REVENUE.
SO AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING UP FROM ONE YEAR DOWN.
I JUST THINK, AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE VERY, AND WHAT ABOUT CITIES LIKE US? IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE NOT.
SO DO WE JUST BREAK THE SYSTEM DOWN AND START ALL OVER? I MEAN, GOD FORBID IF THERE'S ANOTHER PANDEMIC FOR GUYS.
WELL, WHAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER KENNEDY FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION.
YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON THAT TOLD ME ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
SO I, I DID WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND ALSO, I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD SOME QUESTIONS OR HAD A QUESTION.
I KNOW YOU WERE TRYING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE 3:00 AM THING.
OH, NOT, NOT A QUESTION, JUST A, I UNDERSTOOD, I UNDERSTOOD COUNSEL'S DIRECTION.
IT, IT'S LIKELY, UM, JUST IN ADDITION TO SECTION SIX DASH TWO, I'LL, I'LL REVIEW THE STATE LAW AND MAKE SURE, UM, THAT WE'RE, THAT WE ARE KIND OF CAPTURING IT THE WAY, THE WAY THAT IT'S AUTHORIZED.
UM, BUT YEAH, I, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK IN ORDINANCE FORM BASED ON COUNSEL DIRECTION.
SO WE'RE GONNA, I KNOW YOU'RE USED TO LATE, LATE MEETINGS,