[1. Invocation - Staci Donovan, New Life Mission]
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          FEBRUARY 24TH, 2026 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, LET ME REVIEW TO REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM LOCATED IN THE INTEREST OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND SUBMIT THE COMPLETED FORM, THE SERGEANT AT ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, USE THE MICROPHONE ON THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, OR YOUR NAME AND CITY. BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME ON THE LECTERN AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT BEFORE YOUR SPEAKING TIME ENDS. THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS, AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE, A PERSON WITH A LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME, AS REASONABLY DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, TO CREATE A RECORD FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL, PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION. IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND. AND TONIGHT WE'LL BE GIVEN BY STACEY DONOVAN OF THE NEW LIFE MISSION. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH GRATEFUL HEARTS, HONORING YOU AS A SOURCE OF WISDOM, JUSTICE, AND PEACE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER IN THIS PLACE, AND FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE ACCEPTED THE CALL TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THEIR ROLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. WE LIFT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER UP TO YOU TODAY AND WE ASK FOR DISCERNMENT AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS. UNITY AS THEY WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THIS COMMUNITY. WHEN THE WEIGHT OF RESPONSIBILITY FEELS HEAVY, I ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM STRENGTH. WHEN THE PATH FORWARD IS UNCLEAR, I ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM. HELP THEM TO LEAD WITH HUMILITY, COMPASSION, AND A DEEP DESIRE TO SERVE. WE PRAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. HELP US TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS, WHETHER AS DIVISION. BRING UNDERSTANDING WHERE THERE IS NEED. WE ASK FOR YOUR PROVISION, GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION AND WHERE THERE IS HOPELESSNESS. WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE GIVER OF HOPE. WE GIVE YOU THIS MEETING IN ALL OF ITS PLANS AND ASK THAT YOUR SPIRIT WOULD TAKE OVER IN THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES. JESUS, WE PRAY. 
          AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. ROLL CALL, MR. MCCUNE. COUNCILMEMBER NEWMAN WILL NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT HERE. COUNCILMEMBER HANLEY HERE. COUNCILMEMBER SMITH HERE. 
          [4. Proclamations and Presentations]
COUNCILMEMBER LARUSSO. VICE MAYOR KENNEDY HERE. MAYOR ALFREY. AND I'M HERE FOR PROCLAMATION OF THE PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE ONE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AMANTHA, COME ON UP. HELLO. TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING A PROCLAMATION FOR THE BLEEDING DISORDERS AWARENESS MONTH GIVEN TO SAMANTHA NAZARIO. AND I KNOW YOU. THIS HAS BEEN A PASSION OF YOURS FOR MANY YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE YOU'VE GONE TO OTHER CITIES AND MADE A LOT OF PEOPLE AWARE. BUT, YOU KNOW, UNTIL YOU UNTIL YOU REALLY GET INTO IT. AND I REMEMBER WHEN YOU DID IT THE FIRST TIME I LOOKED IT UP AND I WAS KIND OF AT ALL WITH WHAT THIS MEANS AND HOW IT IT AFFECTS OUR HEALTH CARE AND A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO I'M GOING TO DO THIS PROCLAMATION REAL QUICK. BUT ALL RIGHT, CITY OF MELBOURNE. WHEREAS HEMOPHILIA AND OKAY, HEMOPHILIA AND VON WILLEBRAND DISEASES ARE RARE CHRONIC DISORDERS IN WHICH YOUR BLOOD DOES NOT CLOT NORMALLY BECAUSE IT LACKS SUFFICIENT BLOOD CLOTTING PROTEINS OR CLOTTING FACTORS. 
          WHEREAS IN THE UNITED STATES, MORE THAN 30,000 INDIVIDUALS LIVE WITH RARE UNCURABLE UNCURABLE BLEEDING DISORDERS, WITH 6000 OF THEM LIVING IN FLORIDA, WHEREAS SYMPTOMS OF BLEEDING DISORDERS INCLUDE UNEXPLAINED AND EXCESSIVE BLEEDING, LARGE AND DEEP BRUISING, NOSEBLEEDS, AND BLEEDING INTO JOINTS, MUSCLES, AND SOFT TISSUE. AND WHEREAS, THE BLEEDING DISORDERS COALITION OF FLORIDA, FOUNDED IN 1996, IS AN ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION CREATED TO BE THE VOICE OF THE FLORIDA BLEEDING DISORDERS COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, THE BLEEDING DISORDERS COALITION OF FLORIDA MISSION IS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE BLEEDING DISORDER COMMUNITY THROUGH EDUCATION, REFERRAL SERVICES AND ADVOCACY, AND BY ORGANIZING EVENTS TO RAISE THE NEEDED FUND FUNDING FOR RESEARCH AND SUPPORT SERVICES. NOW, THEREFORE, BE RESOLVED THAT I, PAUL ALFREY, MAYOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH 2026 AS BLEEDING DISORDERS AWARENESS 
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MONTH IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THOSE IN THE BLEEDING DISORDERS COMMUNITY. WITNESS MY HAND AND SEAL OF THE CITY OF 24TH DAY OF FEBRUARY 2026. AND IF YOU WOULD KIND OF IF YOU WOULD BREAK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, IF YOU WOULD, AS YOU ELOQUENTLY DO, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT IT? SURE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, FOR THIS SEVEN YEAR PARTNERSHIP. THIS IS OUR SEVENTH PROCLAMATION. I DON'T USUALLY READ. I USUALLY KIND OF GO OFF THE CUFF, BUT THIS YEAR HAS THE LAST YEAR HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO I KIND OF WANT TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA NAZARIO AND I AM A MELBOURNE RESIDENT AND A BREVARD COUNTY VOTER. I'M HONORED TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION FOR BLEEDING DISORDERS AWARENESS MONTH ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY, THE BLEEDING DISORDER FOUNDATION OF FLORIDA, THE NATIONAL BLEEDING DISORDERS FOUNDATION, AND MI FAMILIA DE SANGRE ALL OVER THE WORLD. I AM A MOM WHO HAS WALKED THIS PATH FOR 20 YEARS. WHEN MY SON WAS DIAGNOSED WITH VON WILLEBRAND'S DISEASE TWO DECADES AGO, OUR FAMILY BEGAN A JOURNEY DEFINED BY RESILIENCE AND THE WEIGHT OF A MILLION SILENT WORRIES. AS OUR NEW REALITY BEGAN, THE FIRST THING THE HEMATOLOGIST DID WAS CONNECT US WITH THE FOUNDATION. THE FOUNDATION IS A HUGE PART OF MINE AND MY FAMILY'S LIVES. 
          IT HAS BEEN THE ENGINE OF OUR GROWTH, EDUCATING US TO ADVOCATE AT OUR LOCAL, FEDERAL AND NATIONAL LEVELS BY PROVIDING US WITH THE CONSISTENT, CUTTING EDGE RESEARCH AND EDUCATION. THE FOUNDATION EMPOWERED US TO STAND UP NOT JUST FOR OURSELVES, BUT FOR THE 120 OTHER BLOOD BORNE RARE DISEASES. EXCUSE ME? BLOOD BORNE DISEASES THAT RELY ON OUR COLLECTIVE VOICE. IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE FOUND A TRUE FAMILY WHERE COLOR, POLITICAL PARTY OR BACKGROUND DON'T MATTER. PROVING THAT WITH THE RIGHT PROACTIVE CARE AND THE RIGHT VOICE, WE DON'T JUST SURVIVE, WE THRIVE. BUT TODAY, THAT ABILITY TO THRIVE IS UNDER THREAT. THE COST OF STAYING ALIVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS STAGGERING. ROUTINE LIFE SAVING MEDICATION COSTS BETWEEN 300,000 AND 500,000 ANNUALLY IF COMPLICATIONS ARISE, GOD FORBID, SUCH AS A CAR ACCIDENT OR AN INJURY WHILE PLAYING BALL WITH THEIR FRIENDS, THE COST CAN INSTANTLY SKYROCKET PAST $1 MILLION. THIS IS WHERE FEDERAL SUPPORT IS NON-NEGOTIABLE. WE ARE NOW WITNESSING THE SYSTEMATIC DISMANTLING OF THE CDC THAT TOOK EFFECT ON APRIL 1ST, 2025, EFFECTIVELY GUTTING EXPERTS WITH DECADES OF EXPERIENCE IN BLOODBORNE ILLNESSES. THE VERY EXPERTS WHO PROTECTED WHO PROTECT US FROM THREATS LIKE HIV AND HEPATITIS. 
          I'M GOING TO SAY THAT TO YOU ONE MORE TIME. THE VERY EXPERTS THAT PROTECT THIS NATION FROM HEPATITIS, HIV AND OTHER BLOOD BORNE ILLNESSES. NATIONWIDE, THE CDC HAS LOST A THIRD OF ITS WORKFORCE. ROUGHLY 4300 EMPLOYEES. THE MASS EXIT LEAVES FEWER EXPERTS TO MONITOR THE SAFETY OF THE ENTIRE NATION'S BLOOD SUPPLY. I REPEAT, THE SAFETY OF THE ENTIRE NATION'S BLOOD SUPPLY, NOT JUST FOR THE FOR THE CLINICALLY ILL, BUT FOR EVERY CITIZEN IN THIS ROOM WHO MAY 1ST DAY NEED A LIFE SAVING BLOOD TRANSFUSION. THE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON FLORIDA IS SEVERE. IT IS PROJECTED, SHOWN TO ESTIMATE THAT FLORIDA WILL LOSE $50 MILLION FROM HEALTH PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, MEANING OUR HEMOPHILIA TREATMENT CENTERS SUCH AS ARNOLD PALMER, FLORIDA UNIVERSITY AND FSU JOHNS HOPKINS WILL ALL BE LOSING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HELP THEM TREAT THEIR PATIENTS WITH CRITICAL CARE. THE PRESSURE IS HITTING A BREAKING POINT HERE LOCALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT BY DISRUPTING THE CDC FUNDING, THEY HAVE STOPPED 380 ACTIVE CLINICAL TRIALS SPANNING OVER 20 YEARS, AFFECTING 74,000 PATIENTS. THAT'S MORE PEOPLE THAN THE RESIDENTS OF MELBOURNE. THIS AFFECTS US HERE IN FLORIDA DIRECTLY AT FMU AND UCF. THE PRESSURE IS HITTING A BREAKING POINT IN OUR OWN BACKYARD. I'VE PERSONALLY TAKEN CALLS FROM FAMILIES IN BREVARD AND BEYOND WHO ARE TERRIFIED AS THEY WATCH THEIR MONTHLY MARKETPLACE. PREMIUMS JUMP FROM $30 TO $167. 
          FOR A YOUNG ADULT, STARTING AN INDEPENDENT LIFE LIKE OUR 26 YEAR OLD SON, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. $167 IS A WALL. WHEN YOU'RE MANAGING A 300 $300,000 A YEAR CONDITION. LOSING INSURANCE IS A DIRECT THREAT TO THEIR SURVIVAL AND THEIR LIFE. FOR 20 YEARS I HAVE FOUGHT FOR MY SON. TODAY, I'M FIGHTING FOR ALL THE FAMILIES WHO ARE BEING PRICED OUT OF CARE THAT THEY NEED TO LIVE. THIS PROCLAMATION BRINGS THESE STRUGGLES OUT OF THE SHADOWS, AND I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK MAYOR ALFREY AND THIS COUNCIL, THIS COUNCIL AND EVERYONE IN THE CITY FOR ALWAYS STANDING BY ME AND HELPING ME WITH THIS JOURNEY. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR STANDING WITH US TO SPREAD AWARENESS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON. WE ALL NEED OUR BLOOD PRODUCTS TO BE SAFE. WE ALL NEED AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, AND WE NEED NO AMERICAN LEFT INSURED. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. OUTSTANDING. 
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THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FIVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FEBRUARY 10TH, 2026. REGULAR 
          [5. Approval of Minutes - February 10, 2026 Regular Meeting]
CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MAYOR. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 10TH, 2026 REGULAR MEETING. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? 
          [6. City Manager's Report]
I VOTE AYE. MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER SIX. CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. IN ADDITION TO MY WRITTEN REPORT, I NEED TO BRING UP WE. WE CURRENTLY PIGGYBACK THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF BULK GASOLINE AND DIESEL FUEL FOR ALL CITY OPERATIONS, AND THE CURRENT CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE ON MARCH 9TH WITH NO EXTENSIONS OR RENEWALS. THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD IS IN THE PROCESS OF AWARDING TWO NEW CONTRACTS, AND THAT'S CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 10TH, BUT THAT'S THE DATE OF OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, SO THE CONTRACT WON'T BE SIGNED AND IN PLACE UNTIL MARCH 11TH. SO TO AVOID DISRUPTION IN FUEL SERVICES BETWEEN THE CONTRACT END DATE AND THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL AWARD, WHICH WOULD BE MARCH 24TH, I'M REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION FROM CITY COUNCIL TO AWARD THE NEW CONTRACT, AND THEN WE WOULD PUT THAT ON THE MARCH 24TH AGENDA FOR FORMAL APPROVAL. AND IF FOR SOME REASON COUNCIL DOESN'T APPROVE, WE COULD STEP OUT OF THAT CONTRACT AS I HAD SIGNED IT. SO AS LONG AS AS COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO WITH THE DELAY IN OUR IN OUR IN RECEIVING FUEL. THANK YOU. 
          ANY ANY OBJECTIONS A NOTE NO OBJECTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS LAMB? NO. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE HAVE A COUPLE. WE 
          [7. Public Comments]
HAVE STACY DONOVAN FOLLOWED BY ALLEN BLOCK. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS STACY DONOVAN AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT OF NEW LIFE MISSION. OUR MISSION IS TO EMPOWER, EDUCATE AND EQUIP SINGLE MOTHERS AND CHILDREN WHO ARE HOMELESS IN BREVARD COUNTY. WE HELP VULNERABLE FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY MOVE FROM CRISIS TO STABILITY. EVERY DAY WE PROVIDE SAFE HOUSING, LIFE SKILLS, MENTORING, COUNSELING, FREE CHILDCARE, EDUCATION AND FINANCIAL COACHING TO THESE FAMILIES TO HELP THEM TO BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT, EMPLOYED AND THRIVING MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. STRONG FAMILIES BUILD STRONG COMMUNITIES. WHAT NEW LIFE MISSION DOES IS DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR CITY'S HEALTH AND OUR CITY'S FUTURE. WHEN FAMILIES FIND STABILITY, THEY FIND THAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE SUCCEEDING IN SCHOOL. PARENTS ARE EMPLOYED AND DEPENDENT ON PUBLIC SYSTEM DECREASES AND COMMUNITIES BECOME SAFER AND STRONGER. WE SEE LIFE TRANSFORMATION MOTHERS THAT ARE MOVING FROM CRISIS TO CAREER, FAMILIES MOVING FROM SURVIVAL TO STABILITY, AND INDIVIDUALS BECOME CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND WE DO THIS WITHOUT ACCEPTING OR UTILIZING GOVERNMENT FUNDING. OUR WORK IS SUPPORTED ENTIRELY BY PRIVATE DONORS, CHURCHES AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHO ALSO BELIEVE IN LIFE CHANGING TRANSFORMATION. I'M HERE TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW, AND YOU ALL HAVE IT IN YOUR INBOX, THAT WE ARE HAVING A FUNDRAISER AND THIS EVENT IS CALLED A MILLION DREAMS. IT'S APRIL 9TH AND 10TH AT THE HILTON, AND IT ALLOWS THE COMMUNITY TO SEE THIS TRANSFORMATION FIRSTHAND AND INVEST IN THE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING. 90% OF OUR GRADUATES DO NOT RETURN TO HOMELESSNESS. WE KNOW THAT OUR PROGRAM WORKS. THIS EVENT HELPS SUSTAIN THE MISSION, EXPAND OUR SERVICES, AND CONTINUE TO HELP FAMILIES IN NEED IN OUR CITY. WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING YOU FOR FUNDING. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO PARTNER WITH US. EACH OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS INFLUENCE. YOU HAVE RELATIONSHIPS AND COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS THAT CAN MAKE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN THESE FAMILIES LIVES. YOU CAN HELP BY SHARING THIS EVENT WITH YOUR NETWORKS. YOU CAN INVITE BUSINESS LEADERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. YOU CAN CONNECT US WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO CARE ABOUT 
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STRENGTHENING FAMILIES AND HELP BRING PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHO WANT TO INVEST IN REAL CHANGE. 
          YOUR VOICE CARRIES WEIGHT IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND YOUR SUPPORT IN SPREADING THE WORD HELPS MORE PEOPLE FIND THE SUPPORT. TOGETHER, WE CONTINUE TO TRANSFORM LIVES, STRENGTHENING FAMILIES AND BUILDING A HEALTHIER FUTURE FOR OUR CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TAKING YOU, FOR SOME OF YOU ON THIS CITY COUNCIL, TO A TOUR. AND SO IF ANYBODY, ANYBODY HASN'T SEEN THE CAMPUS, PLEASE LET US KNOW. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU STACY. FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR PRAYING FOR US TO BEGIN OUR MEETING THIS EVENING. AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT INFORMATION. SO APRIL 9TH AND 10TH, I DID SIT IN INBOX. SO IF ANY OF Y'ALL WANT TO WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND. YEAH, LET'S, LET'S LET'S GO TOGETHER, FIGURE IT OUT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU ALAN BLOCK FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE GRADY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS AND BRING UP THE TOPIC OF THE SCREECHING WATER PUMPS THAT YOU'RE ALL BEEN AWARE OF FOR SOME TIME NOW, AND TO THE POINT WHERE WE TRIED TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. WE HADN'T HEARD BACK, SO WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO REACH OUT TO FOX 35. AND THEY WERE VERY GRACIOUS TO HAVE THAT ON THE NEWS LAST THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY NIGHT. AND THEY'LL BE DOING FOLLOW UP REPORTS. SO FROM FROM THE REPORT THAT NIGHT ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT, OUR ATTORNEY, OUR GREAT ATTORNEY, JEFFREY GOLUB, HE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM SOMEONE THAT SAW IT. AND AND WE SPOKE TO THAT LADY AND SHE TOLD US SHE ALSO SENT YOUR OFFICES AN EMAIL OF A POSSIBLE SOLUTION. 
          AND IT'S BY A COMPANY CALLED ACOUSTIC BLOCK. AND THEIR NUMBER IS 813980 1400. IT'S A PUMP BOOSTER ENCLOSURE PROJECT. AND I'M READING THAT TITLE BECAUSE SOMEONE RECOMMENDED IT WHEN THEY CALLED IN, AND THEY WERE HIGHLY RECOMMENDING IT UNDER THAT HEADLINE. AND SO AGAIN, ACOUSTIC BLOCK 813980 1400. BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE READ AND WE'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO PLANT TREES AND TREES TAKE 20 YEARS TO GROW. SO WE'D LIKE TO REALLY SEE AN ENCLOSURE BECAUSE AS THE VERY NICE LADY MENTIONED, WE'RE ALL REALLY COMMANDED BY GOD TO LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. AND AND I'M GLAD WE COULD BRING GOD'S NAME INTO THE ROOM LIKE WE DID. AND MAYBE WE CAN CONTINUE TO. AND I BE WONDERFUL TO CONTINUE TO. OH, AND ALSO ONE OF MY GREAT NEIGHBORS ALSO POSTED ON NEXT DOOR WHAT THE SITUATION IS THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH, THAT WE'RE IN PAIN WITH FROM THE SCREECHING PUMPS AND ON THE NEXT DOOR, A LADY RESPONDED BACK TO MY NICE NEIGHBOR WITH THE SAME EXACT EMAIL WITH THE PROJECT ENCLOSURE, THE BOOSTER PROJECT ENCLOSURE. SO I HAVE THE EMAIL HERE FROM MY NEIGHBOR. SO IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT THE WORD'S GETTING OUT AND WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC FOR A SOLUTION THAT CAN BE REALLY DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND CONSIDERING WHAT THE COST OF THE PROJECT IS ENTIRELY, THIS WOULD BE A MINIMAL COST FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO I JUST WANT I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TIME LEFT. BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE IN THE PAST WOULD GO TO THE DOCTOR ONCE A YEAR AND HAVE A CHECKUP. COMPLETELY HEALTHY, NO MEDICATION. NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I GO MONTHLY TO MY DOCTOR. I'M IN SEVERE PAIN ALL THE TIME. IT'S PENETRATED SOMETHING IN ME AND I STRUGGLE AND I'M IN PAIN. IT AFFECTS ME EMOTIONALLY, IT AFFECTS ME ON THE JOB AND IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE. AND THAT WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTING NOT TO HEAR FROM YOU, BUT I CAN SEE I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION AND I CAN SEE THAT YOU CARE. I CAN FEEL THAT FROM YOU. AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO GET AN ANSWER TO THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD. I KNOW THAT MISS LAMB AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY IS THAT THE THING IS THAT THE ENCLOSURE THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING OF, I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE EXACT ENCLOSURE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS LOOKING AT. WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED SOME QUOTES THAT WOULD BE A TEMPORARY MEASURE UNTIL WE. I SIGNED A TASK ORDER LAST THURSDAY. I BELIEVE THAT WAS TO DO A COMPLETE STUDY ON NOT A TEMPORARY, NOT JUST A TEMPORARY FIX, BUT SOMETHING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW, BUT A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION. AND SO WE HAVE WE ARE ALSO GOING TO INSTALL SOME BUSHES OR TREES HERE BEFORE TOO LONG ALSO. BUT THAT TEMPORARY ENCLOSURE IS IN THE WORKS. I DON'T I'M NOT SURE WE CALL IT AN ENCLOSURE, BUT IT'S A FENCING SYSTEM THAT, THAT, THAT 
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SOUNDS LIKE IT'S SIMILAR. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME PRODUCT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. CATHERINE FOLLOWED BY PETE. I BELIEVE THAT'S GOOD. MY NAME IS CATHERINE CREED, AND I LIVE AT 820 MIMOSA PLACE IN INDIAN HARBOR BEACH, VERY CLOSE TO THE OFFENDING FACILITY. I AM NOT AFFECTED THIS, BUT I STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE AFFECTED BY IT. BUT IN LISTENING TO THE FOX REPORT, I HAD SO MANY QUESTIONS AND I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYBODY WAS POINTING FINGERS AT ONE ANOTHER. INDIAN HARBOR BEACH VERSUS MELBOURNE VERSUS WHO BUILT IT. IT WAS RIDICULOUS TO ME. SO I HAVE QUESTIONS AND I'M WONDERING WHAT THE DECIBEL LEVEL IS OF THE OF THAT NOISE. THE REPORT ITSELF SHOULD BE PUBLIC. THE WATER WATER DISTRICT SAID IT HAD SUCH A REPORT. WE NEED TO KNOW THAT TO JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT IS LOWER THAN THE AMBIENT NOISE CLAIMED BY THE WATER DISTRICT. WAS THIS PROJECT SUBJECT TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, AND IF SO, WHAT? WHAT WERE THE RESULTS? THE REPORT INDICATED THAT IBE AND MELBOURNE WERE ARGUING ABOUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE. I CAN TELL YOU IT IS THE WATER DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY BUILT IT AND NOT I. ONLY INVOLVEMENT IS THE FACT THAT IT'S LOCATED WITHIN IN INDIAN HARBOR BEACH. AND SPEAKING WITH MY NEIGHBOR, I LEARNED THAT I HAVE THEY'VE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK AND I'LL LET THEM SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. 
          BUT I'LL GO BACK TO MY QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE DECIBEL LEVEL AND HOW HAS IT CHANGED SINCE THE NEW FACILITY WAS BUILT? WHAT IS THE DECIBEL LEVEL OF SIMILAR FACILITIES AROUND THE COUNTY WITH SHIELDING? WHY IS MELBOURNE WATER DISTRICT STALLING? WE ARE RATEPAYERS AND PAY FOR SERVICES OF MELBOURNE WATER AND THIS SHOULD THEY SHOULD BE PROTECTING US, NOT ANNOYING US. MELBOURNE WATER HAS SO FAR FROM TALKING TO MY NEIGHBORS, IS BASICALLY SAYING THIS IS NOT THEIR PROBLEM. WELL, THEY BUILT IT. SO WHO'S PROBLEM IS IT? NOBODY UNDERSTANDS. VERY FEW PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT, THE PHYSIOLOGICAL IMPACT OF NOISE. I COME FROM THE AVIATION INDUSTRY, SO I'M VERY ACUTELY AWARE OF THE NOISE IMPACT. AND ON PHYSICAL, DAILY LIFE. AND WHEN I HEARD THAT REPORT, MY FIRST REACTION WAS, GEE, IT SOUNDS LIKE A JET ENGINE SPOOLING UP ON THE RAMP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. PETE, FOLLOWED BY DAVID CARROLL. HELLO, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS SAME MATTER. AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE ISSUE. I'M REALLY JUST SPEAKING TO OFFER A PERSPECTIVE TO THE COUNCIL, SO IT'S UNDERSTOOD A LITTLE BETTER WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE UPGRADED BOOSTER PUMPS, I THINK IT'S NOT PURELY A MATTER OF JUST PURE DECIBEL LEVEL. IT'S REALLY A FACT THAT THE NOISE IS CONSTANT, NONVARYING AND CONTINUOUS 24 HOURS A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR. IF YOU HAD A SIREN IN THE BACKGROUND, THAT WAS PRETTY LOUD AND THAT WAS DIMINISHED IN VOLUME AND DECIBEL LEVEL BELOW SOME THRESHOLD, BUT YOU COULD STILL HEAR IT PRETTY WELL. THE FACT THAT IT'S CONSTANT, NEVER ENDING, NON ABATING HAS A PHYSIOLOGICAL IMPACT ON YOU. AT FIRST YOU MAY MAYBE ARE NOT AWARE THAT IT'S THAT TERRIBLE BECAUSE YOU CAN ESCAPE THAT SURROUNDING. BUT IF YOU LIVE IN THAT, IN MY CASE, I AM ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO THE FRONT OF MY MY PREMISES WITH MANY OF THEM, IT'S THEIR BACKYARD AREAS. AND WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, IT'S AN UNNATURAL SOUND. IT'S NOT LIKE WAVES FROM AN OCEAN. IT'S A CONSTANT NONVARYING SOUND THAT EVENTUALLY IS THE CORTISOL LEVEL. YOUR STRESS HORMONE LEVEL GOES UP AND YOU START TO REALIZE THAT IT COULD HAVE SERIOUS IMPLICATIONS, NOT ONLY ON HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THINGS GOING OUTSIDE AND THE ENJOYMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND THE REGION THAT YOU ORIGINALLY HAD BEFORE THESE PUMP UPGRADES OCCURRED. IT CAN ACTUALLY AFFECT YOU PHYSIOLOGICALLY IN WAYS THAT CAUSE CARDIOVASCULAR AND NEUROLOGICAL ISSUES. SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE SENSITIVE THAN OTHERS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS. IF YOU TOLD ME, WELL, WE WERE RIGHT UNDER THE DECIBEL LEVEL 20, YOU KNOW, 55DB DBA, SO WE MET THE REQUIREMENT. I'M ARGUING THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF NOISE. IN THIS CASE, THIS IS NOT JUST INTERMITTENT NOISE, NOISY NEIGHBOR, A LOUD CONSTRUCTION AREA THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY. 
          THIS IS A PERSISTENT NOISE THAT NEVER STOPS, NEVER CHANGES. AND YOUR LIFE IS DIFFERENT AS A 
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RESULT OF IT. AND I JUST WANTED TO PREVENT, YOU KNOW, GIVE THAT PERSPECTIVE TO YOU SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT WHY WE'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND HOW IT AFFECTS OUR LIVES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. DAVID CARROLL, FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH ALEO. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. COUNCIL, THANKS FOR HAVING ME AGAIN. JUST AN UPDATE. I'VE HAD CONSTANT CONTACT WITH SERGEANT SLOVER AT THE MELBOURNE PD. HE HAS A PLAN STRATEGIZED. PLAN OF CRACK DOWN ON THE TRAFFIC CALMING. I DID SPEAK TO TAMMY FROM CITY, FROM THE CITY OFFICE, AND SHE HAD A PLAN TOO. BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN NOTHING YET ABOUT PUTTING THOSE STRIPS WITH THE BOXES TRACKS, HOW MUCH CARS ARE GOING THROUGH THERE AND THEIR SPEED AND ALL THAT. SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS, BUT NOTHING YET. I JUST HOPE YOU ALL STILL KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA TO CONSIDER THE SPEED BUMPS, BECAUSE IT WILL DRASTICALLY HELP. I KNOW MY VOICE WAS HEARD LAST WEEK WITH MELBOURNE PD. THEY PUT THE TRAILER OUT THERE THE FOLLOWING DAY, BUT ON LEAWOOD BOULEVARD, NOT ON ARNOLD, AND MY LAST NAME IS SPELLED C A R R O L L AT 1396 ARNOLD DRIVE. I FORGOT TO BEGIN. I'M SORRY. JUST TOO EXCITED. SO I JUST HOPE WE KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA. I'M GONNA CONTINUE COMING AND VOICING MY OPINION. I'M SORRY, BUT NO THANK YOU. I GOT TO DO IT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR JOSEPH. FOLLOWED BY DOCTOR RAY SHACKLEFORD. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR. SO MY NAME IS JOE AIELLO. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE PLIGHT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN INDIAN HARBOR BEACH. I HAVE A PROFESSIONAL AND A FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIP WITH ALAN BLOCK, AND I'VE MET SOME OF HIS NEIGHBORS, AND I JUST KIND OF WANT TO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT I NOTICED THE DECLINE IN HIS HEALTH. AND I'VE ALSO I STOPPED GOING TO VISIT HIM BECAUSE THAT SOUND KIND OF AFFECTS MY TINNITUS. AND I DON'T BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY SMALL SEGMENT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THIS. I DECIDED TO STEP UP. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN. LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. I'M PROBABLY JUST REINFORCING EVERYTHING. BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY HOPE YOU CONSIDER AND AND THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINT OR PROBLEM WITH THIS, WITH THIS, WITH THIS NOISE NUISANCE. I CAN TELL YOU PERSONALLY THAT WHENEVER I VISIT ALAN, WELL, NOT AS MUCH ANYMORE, BUT HE BASICALLY KEEPS ALL HIS WINDOWS CLOSED AND HIS STORM SHUTTERS DOWN FOR THE NOISE. SO IT'S LIKE I'M GOING INTO HIS CAVE WHENEVER I GO TO VISIT HIM. AND I GOT TO BELIEVE THAT'S NOT HEALTHY. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THIS. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT, AND GROWTH IS IMPORTANT. GLAD THEY UPGRADED THE PUMPS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT STILL KEEPS THE NEIGHBORS COMFORTABLE AND AND HEALTHY. WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. AND DOCTOR RAY SHACKLEFORD. GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. WHEN I WAS ON THE WACO CITY COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD TO DECLARE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH A POTENTIAL BOARD MEMBER OR MEMBERS. I HAVE TRIED TO GET CITIZENS TO APPLY FOR BOARDS THAT BASICALLY REPLIED, WHAT HAS BEEN? WHY SHOULD I APPLY FOR A BOARD FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY COUNCIL? I CAN SPEND MY TIME ELSEWHERE NOW. I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE REASON I CALLED UPON THE CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW POLICY TO ENSURE FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY OF ALL CITIZENS, TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR BOARDS NOT BASED ON FRIENDSHIP WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OR MEMBERS. ALSO, WHEN I WAS ON THE WACO CITY COUNCIL, MY KNOWLEDGE BASE WAS NOT ABOVE THE KNOWLEDGE BASE OF THE CITY STAFF. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE OF THIS CITY COUNCIL IS NO BETTER THAN KNOWLEDGE BASE WACO CITY COUNCIL. SO I'M CALLING UPON YOU TO GIVE THE CITY STAFF MORE RESPECT. THEY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE TO KNOW HOW, BUT PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM AND AND DO THEM LIKE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE TO YOU. WHEN YOU'RE ON THE JOB, YOU WANT RESPECT FOR RESPECT. THEY NEED RESPECT FOR RESPECT TOO. WE HAVE A GREAT CITY. WE HAVE A GREAT CITY, AND WE CAN DO BETTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, THAT THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT. SO WE'LL END UP CLOSING PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO UNFINISHED, UNFINISHED BUSINESS. AND ACTUALLY BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT THAT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT TONIGHT REGARDING THE PUMPS. 
          SOUNDS LIKE THAT. WE'VE WE'RE WORKING ON THIS TO THE POINT WHERE WE START DIRECTING THE SOUND AWAY. AND THEN I THINK THIS IS A MULTI-FACETED APPROACH WHERE I DON'T THINK 
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ONE THING IS JUST GOING TO FIX IT. I THINK YOU DO A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, BESIDES WHETHER IT'S THE, THE RAILS TO, TO MOVE THE SOUND AND THEN, YOU KNOW, VEGETATION AROUND IT, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THAT DOWN AND TO THE POINT WHERE HOPEFULLY WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE DID, THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. YES. YOU WANT TO SPEAK, SIR? YEAH. COULD YOU COME UP? YEAH. YOU NEED TO COME UP HERE IF YOU WANT TO. YEAH. IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK. ABSOLUTELY. YOU HAVE TO BE OVER HERE ON THIS ONE, SIR. NO, YOU. OVER BY THE. I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER. I'M FRIEND OF ALL MY KNOWLEDGE. IF IT'S A PUMP, IF YOU BUILD AROUND IT. 
          LITTLE HOUSE, A WOOD HOUSE, COVER IT COMPLETELY. IT WILL REDUCE THE NOISE BY A LOT. THIS IS JUST MY KNOWLEDGE. YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. DO YOU NEED HIS INFORMATION? YEAH. AND. 
          YEAH. REAL QUICK. COULD YOU, COULD YOU, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, JUST FILL OUT A QUICK SPEAKER CARD. SO WE HAVE YOUR INFORMATION ON FILE RIGHT IN THE BACK, RIGHT IN THE FAR BACK. 
          WE APPRECIATE THAT RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT THEN WE'LL GO 
          [8. Ordinance No. 2026-03, Council Districts: (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance amending the City Code, Chapter 22, Elections, by altering the maps of Melbourne City Council Districts Two, Five, and Six, to include annexation ordinances adopted during the 2025 calendar year. (First Reading - 2/10/2026)]
AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT GOING TO BE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 603 MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA RELATING TO APPORTIONMENT OF CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING CHAPTER 22 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ELECTIONS ADOPTING NEW MAPS, AMENDING THE BOUNDARIES OF CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS TWO, FIVE AND SIX. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. 
          REPORTING ON THIS. IS THESE JUSTICE? I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER ON THIS ITEM. NOTHING FURTHER? NO, SIR. ANY QUESTION? NOPE. NOPE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SIGN UP SHEETS? OKAY. THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR. GO AHEAD. SIR. APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 603. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. RUSSO. SECOND, BY MR. SMITH, AND WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER. BASSETT. COUNCILMEMBER. HANLEY. 
          COUNCILMEMBER. SMITH. COUNCILMEMBER LARUSSO. VICE MAYOR KENNEDY. MAYOR ALFREY AND 
          [9. Ordinance No. 2026-04, Business Promotions: (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance amending Chapter 2, Article X of the Melbourne City Code relating to special activity permits; increasing the frequency and duration of events (business promotions) on private property. (First Reading - 2/10/2026)]
I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, ORDINANCE 2020 604, MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO SPECIAL ACTIVITY PERMITS MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION AMENDING ARTICLE TEN SPECIAL ACTIVITY PERMITS. 
          AMENDING SECTION TWO, 673 DEFINITIONS. AMENDING SECTION TWO 686 FREQUENCY AND DURATION OF EVENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. PROVIDING FOR INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORT ON THIS IS MR. MCEWEN. NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD, MAYOR ON SECOND READING AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCKINNON? JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE, SIR. KEVIN, THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS WHOLE THING TOGETHER AND FORMING IT AND SHAPING IT SO THAT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY CAN ABSOLUTELY FOLLOW THIS IN A FAR MORE PROACTIVE WAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. AND I KNOW THERE'S A GUY OUT THERE THAT APPRECIATES THIS AS WELL TOO. YEAH, WE APPRECIATE HIM TOO FOR FOR WHAT HE'S DONE. ALRIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. NO SIGN UP SHEET. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING BACK COUNCIL MAYOR. GOOD SIR. APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 604. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MR. SMITH. ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COUNCILMEMBER. BASSETT. 
          COUNCILMEMBER. HANLEY. COUNCILMEMBER. SMITH. COUNCILMEMBER LARUSSO. VICE MAYOR KENNEDY. MAYOR ALFRED AND I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM 
          [10. Task Order No. JEG018 to the Continuing Contract for Professional Engineering Services for Reverse Osmosis Membrane Replacement, Jacobs Engineering Group, Inc., Orlando, FL - $59,571.]
NUMBER TEN. REPORT ON THIS IS GOING TO BE JENNIFER SPAGNOLI. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, THIS IS A TASK ORDER J 18 FOR CHANGING OUT THE MEMBRANES AT THE REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT. JACOBS ENGINEERING WILL BE HELPING US TO PROVIDE THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROPER BIDDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A NEW MEMBRANE OR MEMBRANE SYSTEM THAT PERFORMS AS WELL OR BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. MEMBRANES TYPICALLY LAST 5 TO 7 YEARS. WE'RE IN YEAR EIGHT AND THEY'VE STILL BEEN PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL, BUT OVER TIME THEY GET CLOGGED UP. SO YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THEM OUT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO HELP US MAKE SURE WE PREPARE THE BID SPECIFICATIONS SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT TO BID AND GET WHAT WE NEED. AND THE COST FOR THE SERVICE IS $59,571. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BAGNOLI? NO. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM, MAYOR? GO AHEAD. MR. HANLEY, APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER J018 TO JACOB ENGINEERING, 
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INC. ORLANDO, FLORIDA. FOR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES FOR THE REVERSE OSMOSIS MEMBER REPLACEMENT PROJECT NUMBER 31026, IN THE AMOUNT OF $59,571. SECOND, HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? VOTE ON THAT 
          [11. Task Order No. JEG019 to the Continuing Contract for Professional Engineering Services for Washwater Ponds Slab Replacement, Jacobs Engineering Group, Inc., Orlando, FL - $69,974.]
MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11. MR. BAGNOLI. THIS IS FOR G G 19, ALSO A TASK ORDER WITH JACOBS ENGINEERING GROUP. AND THIS IS FOR DESIGN OF REPLACING THE BACKWASH PONDS THAT ARE AT THE ACTIVE ACTIVE FLOW PLANT, THE SURFACE WATER PLANT THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          THERE'S SOME BACKWASH PONDS. THEY WILL SOMETIMES OVER TIME I SHOULD SAY FILL UP WITH THE RESIDUAL SOLIDS. ALL OF THE LIQUID IS TRANSFERRED BACK TO THE PLANT THROUGH THE TREATMENT PROCESS AGAIN. BUT OVER TIME THOSE PONDS HAVE TO BE CLEANED OUT. AND SO WE HAVE TO GET EQUIPMENT IN THERE. AND SO THEY JUST HAVE A CONCRETE BOTTOM. BUT THAT CONCRETE'S KIND OF SHIFTED OVER TIME. THEY'VE BEEN THERE 40 YEARS OR SO. AND SO WE REQUESTED A TASK ORDER FROM JACOBS JUST TO HELP US REPLACE THEM. SO WE'LL GO IN ONE AT A TIME. BUT THIS IS JUST FOR THE CONSULTING SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $69,974. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAGNOLI? ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM, MAYOR? APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER J019 WITH JACOBS ENGINEERING, INC. ORLANDO, FLORIDA. FOR WEIGHT WASH, WATER WASH, WATER POND SLAB REPLACEMENT PROJECT 31126. IN THE AMOUNT OF $69,974. SECOND, THE MOTION A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER 12. 
          [12. Task Order No. KH-C-2025-001 to the Continuing Contract for Professional Engineering Services for the City Hall Parking Garage Rehabilitation, Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc., Melbourne, FL - $79,330.]
REPORT ON THIS IS MR. EARNEST. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. THIS IS THE TASK ORDER FOR CITY HALL, PARKING GARAGE, REHABILITATION PROJECT. CITY HALL, PARKING GARAGE, FIVE STORY STRUCTURE. IT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2010. WE PREVIOUSLY HAD MADE REPAIRS TO IT FOR SOME OF THE CONNECTION POINTS BETWEEN THE PRE-CAST MEMBERS THAT BASICALLY CREATE THE DRIVING SURFACE OF THE PARKING GARAGE. SO IN 2019, WE FOUND FAILURES OF THE CONNECTION PLATES BETWEEN THOSE UNITS. THE PREVIOUSLY DID REPAIRS ON IT, FIXED IT, GOT IT BACK INTO SERVICE. A RECENT INSPECTION BY STAFF IN 2025 REVEALED THAT ADDITIONAL FLANGE CONNECTIONS HAVE FAILED, SO THESE DO REQUIRE REPAIR. BASICALLY, IT ALLOWS FOR THE DIFFERENT PRECAST COMPONENTS TO MOVE TOO MUCH AND NOT ALLOW FOR THE APPROPRIATE FORCES TO BE TRANSFERRED BETWEEN THE UNITS. SO ADDITIONALLY, SINCE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKING GARAGE FACADE HAS ALSO BEEN DAMAGED AND OCCUPIED BY BIRDS WHICH ARE NESTING WITHIN THAT HOLLOW ELEMENT AROUND THE BUILDING, IT'S A FAIRLY WELL KNOWN. YOU CAN GO OUT AND SEE THE HOLES WHERE THE BIRDS KIND OF COME IN AND OUT OF IT. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WILDLIFE. 
          SO WILDLIFE DOES WHAT WILDLIFE DOES, AND THERE'S NESTS AND OTHER DETRITUS AND WASTE THAT'S POTENTIALLY IN THERE. SO WE'RE HAVING THAT ASSESSED TO MAKE SURE. SO TASK ORDER SCOPE IS GOING TO CONSIST OF INSPECTION STRUCTURAL ASSESSMENT OF THE PARKING GARAGE NONSTRUCTURAL INSPECTION ASSESSMENT ASSESSMENT OF THE FACADE DRAINAGE SURFACE AND JOINTS, AND DEVELOPMENT OF REPAIR PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR BID FOR REPAIR. ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING A LONG TERM MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THE PARKING GARAGE THAT WILL LAY OUT THE MAINTENANCE FREQUENCY AND TASKS THAT STAFF WILL HAVE TO EITHER HAVE A CONSULTANT DO OR PERFORM IN-HOUSE, AND THIS TASK ORDER SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN 240 CALENDAR DAYS OF NOTICE. TO PROCEED. NOW WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER 2025 001 TO KIMLEY-HORN OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE CITY HALL PARKING GARAGE REHABILITATION PROJECT NUMBER 18220, IN THE AMOUNT OF $79,330. THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTION ON MAYOR QUICKLY? IF 17 YEARS OLD. SO I MEAN, IS THIS NORMAL PATTERN MAINTENANCE WISE AND FINDING THE DIFFERENT SPOTS WHERE BIRDS WILL NEST AND OTHER WILDLIFE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND TO BACK THAT UP, THOUGH THE BIRDS ARE NESTING THERE, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE THAT SO THAT OR PROTECT THEM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE THE NEST, THAT IT DOESN'T BOTHER THE THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN. SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE BROAD BRUSH, YOU KNOW JAMES, THAT'S ALL. SO SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE ASSESSMENT THAT THEY'RE PERFORMING. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE WILDLIFE TO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THOSE FACADES EITHER. SO JUST BECAUSE IT CAN CREATE A HEALTH ISSUE. SO ONE OF THE TASKS THAT 
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THE ENGINEER IS BEING ASSIGNED IS TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVES TO US SO THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO FIX THAT EXISTING ISSUE AND HOPEFULLY PREVENT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE FROM REOCCURRING IN THE FUTURE. DO WE? I GUESS THE FPNL AND MANY OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY AND THE STATE PUT NESTS ON TOP OF POWER POLES AND THAT SORT OF THING? IS THERE ANYTHING I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT MAYBE WE CAN PRESERVE SOME OF THE WILDLIFE IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE THAT ENCOURAGES THEM TO COME AND NEST AND STILL BE, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. I WILL ASK OUR CONSULTANT IF THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE FOR A WEEKEND GETAWAY TO, YOU KNOW, SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I COULD CLIMB UP THERE. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE BIRD, THE DAMAGE FROM THE BIRDS NESTING IS PROBABLY A FAIRLY SMALL PART OF THIS TASK ORDER. WE'RE MORE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAKING SURE THE STRUCTURAL ASSESSMENT IS RIGHT, IF THERE'S ANY JOINTS THAT NEED REPAIRS AND THAT THAT IS THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF IT. THAT'S. 
          YES, THE CURRENT FLANGES THAT ARE BREAKING ALLOW FOR TOO MUCH MOVEMENT OF THE STRUCTURE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT BETWEEN THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS. NOTHING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL, BUT IT COULD LEAD TO LONG TERM ISSUES WITH THE STRUCTURE IF WE DON'T FIX IT. 
          BASICALLY, IT'S JUST YOU'LL SEE MORE DEFLECTION IF SOMEBODY DRIVES OVER THIS COUPLE SECTIONS OF GIRDERS. SO YEAH. OKAY. THANKS. IF NOTHING ELSE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS MAYOR? GO AHEAD, MISS HANLEY, ORDER NUMBER K025001 TO KIMBERLY HORN, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE CITY HALL PARKING GARAGE REHABILITATION PROJECT. 18220, IN THE AMOUNT OF $79,330. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, THAT OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? 
          [13. CONSENT AGENDA:]
THAT MOTION PASSES. I'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. AGENDA? NOTHING'S BEEN PULLED. 
          ITEMS A THROUGH G, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MAYOR? GO AHEAD. MA'AM. I VOTE APPROVAL FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. AGENDA A THROUGH G. SORRY, A THROUGH G APPROVAL FOR MOTION. MOTION A THROUGH G. YES. 
          OKAY, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE. MOTION 
          [15. Ordinance No. 2026-05 (AV2025-0005): (First Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance to abandon and vacate a 30-foot-wide street right-of-way and a 15-foot-wide alleyway right-of-way at 2528 S. Harbor City Boulevard.]
PASSES 14. NOTHING WAS PULLED. SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15. THIS WILL BE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 605. MR. CONLEY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A 30 FOOT WIDE STREET RIGHT OF WAY THAT RUNS EAST TO WEST ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE OF A 15 FOOT WIDE ALLEYWAY RIGHT OF WAY THAT RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH, DIVIDING THE PROPERTY, BOTH LOCATED AT 2528 SOUTH HARBOR CITY BOULEVARD, MAKING FINDINGS PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. REPORT ON THIS IS MR. EARNEST. THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS AN ABANDONED AND VACATE ORDINANCE FOR A 30 FOOT WIDE STREET RIGHT OF WAY AND 15 FOOT WIDE ALLEYWAY AT THE ABOVE LOCATION. THE APPLICANT IS HARBOR CITY HORIZONS, LLC. 
          THEY'VE REQUESTED THE VACATION OF THE 30 FOOT WIDE, UNIMPROVED PUBLIC STREET AND 15 FOOT WIDE, UNIMPROVED PUBLIC ALLEYWAY THAT WAS CREATED BY THE FC POWELL SUBDIVISION LOTS EIGHT THROUGH 12 AND ADDITION OF SOUTH MELBOURNE. THESE ARE EFFECTIVELY PAPER STREETS THAT THE CITY HAS NEVER IMPROVED INTO A ROADWAY. THE OWNER, AS YOU CAN SEE, OWNS THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH IT. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY UTILITIES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THESE PAPER RIGHT OF WAYS. SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ALL THE OTHER UTILITIES. THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIONS WITH REGARDS TO REQUESTING THE ABANDONED AND VACATE. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE REQUIRING A UTILITY EASEMENT TO BE PROVIDED, WHICH IS TYPICAL WITH THESE. SO BASICALLY THE AGENDA MATERIALS PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE ABANDONED VACATE REQUEST, ALONG WITH THE SKETCH DEPICTING THE LOCATION OF THE UNIMPROVED ROADWAY. AND WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 605. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. OH, NOPE. 
          OKAY. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM. ANY DISCLOSURES? NO, I NO, NO DISCLOSURE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE NO SIGN UP SHEET. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR. GOOD SIR. APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 605. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES. AND WE'RE MOVING 
          [16. Substantial Amendments to the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) and CDBG Coronavirus (CDBG-CV) Fiscal Year 2019-2020 and 2020-2021 Action Plans. (Public Hearing)]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16. REPORTING ON THIS IS MISS CINDY DITTMAR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE FISCAL YEARS 2019 AND 2020 
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AND 2020 AND 2021 OF OUR CDBG AND OUR CDBG, CV CORONAVIRUS ACTION PLANS. IF COUNCIL RECALLS THE CDBG, CV FUNDS WERE AUTHORIZED BY THE FEDERAL ACT, THE CORONAVIRUS AID ACT, AND THOSE FUNDS WERE REQUIRED TO SPECIFICALLY BE UTILIZED TO HELP PROJECTS FUND PROJECTS THAT PREPARE, PREVENT OR RESPOND TO COVID OR OTHER COMMUNICABLE DISEASES. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT ARE REALLY JUST A REALLOCATION OF A HANDFUL OF PRIOR YEAR'S PROJECTS THAT HAD SOME LEFTOVER FUNDS IN THEM. THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS $14,581.23. THE HOUSING STAFF PUT THIS OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS INTERNALLY TO OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS FOR USE. THE HIGHEST RANKED APPLICATION CAME FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH A PROPOSAL TO PURCHASE LUND UNIVERSITY CARDIOPULMONARY ASSIST SYSTEMS, LUCAS CPR DEVICES. THIS RECOMMENDATION THEN WENT ON TO OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD, WHO RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT. IT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING. THERE HAS BEEN A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OF WHICH WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS CHANGE TO THE ACTION PLANS. SO WITH THAT, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE FY 2019 2020 AND FY 2020 2021 CDBG ACTION PLANS REALLOCATING $14,581.23 IN CDBG, CV, AND CDBG FUNDING AND AUTHORIZATION TO AWARD FUNDING TO THE NEXT HIGHEST RANKING APPLICANT IN THE EVENT. THE MELBOURNE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION, AND ALSO ITEM B, APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4409 FOR THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM MISS DITTMAR? NO. OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE NO SIGN UP SHEETS. SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS MAYOR I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE FY 2019, 2020 AND 2020 2021 CDBG ACTION PLANS REALLOCATING $14,581.23 IN CDBG, CV, AND CDBG FUNDING AND AUTHORIZATION TO AWARD FUNDING TO THE NEXT HIGHEST RANKING APPLICANT IN THE EVENT, THE MELBOURNE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITHDRAWS SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND, MR. LARUSSO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. HOW ABOUT BE MAYOR? GO AHEAD. MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4409. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES. AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO FINISH OFF THIS FUNDING FROM THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING THAT THE CARES ACT. AND THERE ARE MANY WHO ARE UP HERE WHO DID NOT GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF HAVING PLEXIGLAS BETWEEN US, YOU KNOW. BUT THANK YOU. I WISH I STILL DID. THANK YOU ALL. YOU LOVED IT. ANYWAY, THANK YOU CINDY, AND THANK YOU FOR STAFF FOR DOING THIS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. OH WOW. OH YEAH. OH, YEAH. IT'S THE HISTORY BOOKS 
          [17. Ordinance No. 2026-06, Ordinance No. 2026-07, and Ordinance No. 2026-08, Aloha Pet-Bird Hospital: (First Reading/Public Hearing) Ordinances providing for Annexation, Comprehensive Plan Amendment, and Zoning designation on a 0.28± acre subject property, located at the northeast corner of East Eau Gallie Boulevard and San Juan Drive. (Owner/Applicant - Aloha Real Estate Holdings, LLC/Manuel J. Pepen) (Representative - Frank Plata, P.E., Plata Engineering, Inc.) (P&Z Board - 2/5/2026)]
PAL. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17. THIS IS GOING TO BE ORDINANCE 2026 0607 AND OH EIGHT, MR. CONLEY THANK YOU MAYOR. FIRST ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 606, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF 0.28 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY. LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD AND SAN JUAN DRIVE, 948 EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD, PROVIDING FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE CORPORATE LIMITS AND BOUNDARIES THEREOF. PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING ADOPTION SCHEDULE TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 607. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING APPENDIX D, CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE. AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY ESTABLISHING A GENERAL COMMERCIAL FUTURE. LAND USE MAP CLASSIFICATION ON 0.28 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST VALLEY BOULEVARD AND SAN JUAN DRIVE, 948 EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 608. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005, 120 BY ESTABLISHING C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING ON 0.28 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST O'GALLEY BOULEVARD AND SAN JUAN DRIVE, 948 EAST EAU GALLIE 
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BOULEVARD, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. OKAY. THANK YOU. REPORTING ON THIS AS MISS CINDY DIMMER. YES. SO THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THREE ORDINANCES ANNEXING LAND, ESTABLISHING GENERAL COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE AND CT C TWO ZONING ON A 0.28 ACRE PROPERTY. PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD AND SAN JUAN DRIVE. BEACHSIDE, LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, HAS SUBMITTED A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION REQUEST. THE PROPERTY IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY, BOTH ON THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN SIDES. THE PROPERTY OWNERS WISH TO CONSOLIDATE WITH AN EXISTING VETERINARY HOSPITAL THAT ACTUALLY HAS TWO PORTIONS, THAT ONE IS IN THE CITY AND ONE IS NOT IN THE CITY, SO THE YELLOW PORTION IS WHAT WE'RE ANNEXING IN THIS EVENING. THE OTHER PORTION WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY A FEW YEARS BACK. THEN. 
          THEY PUT THE TWO BUILDINGS TOGETHER AND SORT OF CREATED THIS ODDITY OF A BUILDING BEING BOTH IN THE CITY AND IN UNINCORPORATED. SO WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THEM CLEAN THAT UP. THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY PROBLEMS WITH REGARD TO OUR PROVISION OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND MEETS THE FLORIDA STATUTES, ALLOWANCES FOR ANNEXATION. THIS IS ALSO A PART OF AN UNINCORPORATED BREVARD COUNTY ENCLAVE AREA, WHICH WE DO LIKE TO TRY TO CLEAN THOSE AREAS UP TO PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE PROVISION. THE PROPOSED C-2 ZONING AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE CURRENT COUNTY ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE. THERE'S NOT ANY CHANGES AS PROPOSED ON SITE. 
          THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THESE REQUESTS, AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 606, APPROVAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 6-07, AND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 608, ALL OF THOSE BASED UPON THE FINDINGS IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD OF MEMORANDUM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS DITTMER. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DITTMER? ONE QUICK ONE ON THE AERIAL THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE TO THE RIGHT OF THE YELLOW PORTION, THAT WAS THE RESTAURANT. MELOS. YES. AND THAT IS IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE NOW. YES, SIR. THAT WAS OKAY. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IN I JUST WASN'T. YEAH. THE BUILDINGS WEREN'T ACTUALLY CONNECTED WHEN WE ANNEXED THIS. 
          YEAH, YEAH. AND THE OWNERS LIVED IN THE BACK. YOU KNOW THEY HAD A RESIDENCE BACK THERE AND THEY SOLD AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT HOWEVER, BRINGING THIS WHOLE THING IN FROM 22,004, I GUESS IT WAS BEGINNING. YEAH, IT'S IT'S GOOD TO BRING IT ALL TOGETHER. AND I KNOW HE'S GOT BIG PLANS FOR FUTURE EXPANSION FOR. AND HE'S A GREAT VETERINARIAN. THEY DO A GREAT JOB OVER THERE. SO HAPPY TO WELCOME MORE OF THEM INTO OUR CITY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM. MEETING DISCLOSURES A NOTE NO DISCLOSURES. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE NO SIGN UP SHEET. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 606. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND BY MISS BASSETT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? VOTE AYE. AND THE MOTION PASSES. 
          BE MAYOR. APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 607. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MISS BASSETT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES AND SEE. FINALLY, MAYOR APRIL, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 608. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM, I HAVE A MOTION, THE SECOND BY MISS BASSETT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO 
          [18. Ordinance No. 2026-09: (First Reading) An ordinance amending Sections 2-29, 2-572 and 2-581 of the Melbourne City Code; amending the engineering and construction contract threshold for City Council approval and increasing the purchasing award threshold for the City Manager to $100,000. (Requested by City Council - 1/13/2026)]
ITEM NUMBER 18. REPORT ON THIS WILL BE OUR CITY MANAGER. ACTUALLY A CORRECTION THAT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE ORDINANCE 2020 609, MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION AMENDING SECTION TWO DASH 29. ORDER OF BUSINESS. 
          AMENDING SECTION TWO 572. JURISDICTION ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACTS. AMENDING SECTION TWO 581 PURCHASING AWARD THRESHOLDS. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. 
          THANK YOU. REPORT ON THIS IS MISS LIAM. YES. AT THE JANUARY 13TH MEETING. COUNCIL MEETING. 
          COUNCILMAN EXPRESSED CONSENSUS TO RETURN WITH AN ORDINANCE TO INCREASE THE PURCHASING AWARD THRESHOLD FROM 75,000 TO 100,000. WE DID TAKE A LOOK IN CODE WHERE IT WAS REFERENCED. 
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AND SO IT'S NOT JUST IN ONE LOCATION. THERE WERE THREE LOCATIONS THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE UPDATED WITH THAT. IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD THAT I'M ASKING FOR THIS MYSELF, BUT I DIDN'T MAKE THIS REQUEST FOR IT TO BE ON THE AGENDA. BUT I AM HAPPY TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT DOES. I THINK THE PREMISE WHEN I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO BROUGHT THIS UP WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME IT WAS UPDATED TO 75,000, WHICH WAS IN 2020, CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP QUITE, QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY. AND SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS HIS REASONING. BUT I MAY TURN IT OVER IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING. YEAH. YEAH, PLEASE. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT, MISS LIAM. WE'VE SEEN SOME EXTRAORDINARY THINGS HAPPEN TO THE CITY AND PURCHASING POWER AND THE WAY THAT PRICES CHANGE ALMOST WITHIN A 12 HOUR PERIOD, IF NOTHING ELSE. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROPER TOOLS TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY IN, IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY, THEN WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE 100,000 VERSUS THE 75,000 WHERE SHE WAS. AND OF COURSE, PALM BAY AND THE COUNTY ALSO HAVE THE SAME THRESHOLDS AS WELL. SO WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE COUNCIL THAT HAVE BEEN AT 80,000, AND WE'VE LOST THEM BECAUSE WE COULDN'T RESPOND QUICK ENOUGH AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO SO I'M GENERALIZING, OF COURSE, BUT THAT THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO THE, TO THE TABLE. SO OF COURSE, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT INTO THE AGENDA ITEM. AND SO I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR IT. NOT SURE WHERE YOU GUYS ARE AT WITH IT. WELL I WILL TELL YOU, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE AT 25,000 AND WE DECIDED AND ACTUALLY PALM BAY AT THE TIME WENT TO 100 AND WE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE. AND THAT WAS EVEN BEFORE THE INFLATION ISSUES AND STUFF. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING 100,000. OKAY, MA'AM, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT BECAUSE I SORT OF GLOSSED OVER THE OTHER PART. PREVIOUSLY, IT WAS JUST THE GENERAL PURCHASING THRESHOLD. WE HAVE NOW INCLUDED THE ENGINEERING CONTRACTS AND THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS, BECAUSE THOSE REMAINED AT 50,000 BEFORE. AND SO LIKE THE THREE ITEMS THAT YOU SAW UNDER NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT, IF, IF IT IS INCREASED TO OR TO 100,000, ALL THREE OF THOSE ITEMS WOULD, WOULD HAVE BEEN WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORIZATION. THOSE DO GET NOTED ON THE MONTHLY REPORT THAT WE GIVE COUNCIL ON EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. 
          RIGHT. MAYOR, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON CITY MANAGER, HER STAFF UNDER YOU KNOW, THAT SHE SHE COUNCILS AND AND EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, BRING IT TO ENGINEERING AS SUCH AND SUCH IS INCUMBENT UPON YOU. WE'RE GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND GIVE YOU THE TOOLS THAT YOU NEED TO PERFORM YOUR JOB. SO ENGINEERING AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING IN THERE. SO, MAYOR, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 NINE. 
          SECOND. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MISS BASSETT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          [19. Discussion on the City's land development review and permitting process. (Requested by Council Member Marcus Smith) (Postponed - 5/13/2025, 5/27/2025, 6/10/2025, and 7/8/2025)]
ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO NUMBER ITEM NUMBER 19. THIS IS GOING TO BE REGARDING A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. REPORTING ON THIS WILL BE MISS DITTMAR FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION. YES. THANK YOU COUNCIL I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SO I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF, THE ENGINEERING STAFF AND CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF. WE OFTEN CALL THEM BUILDING. SO IF I SAY EITHER ONE, THAT'S WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT JAMES ENNIS AND STEPHENS ARE BOTH HERE THIS EVENING. WHEN I GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE ALL HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE. SO JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU IT'S NOT JUST ME UP HERE TONIGHT. SO JUST WANT TO WALK CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. I DID PLACE A COPY OF EVERYBODY'S PLACE THERE SO YOU GUYS CAN FOLLOW ALONG. WANTED TO START OFF WITH JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE IN THE PERMIT AND PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. WE WANT TO PROVIDE A PREDICTABLE REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND PUT IN APPLICATIONS, SO THEY KNOW WHAT TO PREDICT AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS. WE ALSO, AS PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY, WE WANT TO PROVIDE UNBIASED REVIEWS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE REQUIRED CITY, STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS ARE MEETING THE STANDARDS THAT ARE SET BY CITY COUNCIL, OUR CODE REQUIREMENTS, AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PLANS AND PERMITS AREN'T IMPACTING OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, OTHER BUSINESSES, OTHER RESIDENTS. AND A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY, AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS ENSURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING OUR CITY CODES, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS. THIS SLIDE JUST SORT OF WANT TO 
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POINT OUT TO YOU, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR LOCAL REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING OUR CITY CODE, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, RIGHT BELOW THAT, THERE ARE A LOT OF TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS THAT STAFF ALSO REVIEWS FOR THE LIST. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE IN RED SORT OF SHOWS YOU THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE WAY OUT OF OUR CONTROL. REGULATIONS THAT ARE SET AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS. FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, ADA ELECTRICAL CODE, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT TRAFFIC REGULATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE REVIEWING PERMITS AND PLANS AND MAKING SURE ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE COVERED IN THAT REVIEW. SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT FIRST START OF THAT PERSPECTIVE TO COUNCIL AS TO WHY WE HAVE THE REVIEW PROCESS THAT WE DO NEXT. AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THIS. I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK GLIMPSE OF WHAT EACH DEPARTMENT REVIEWS AS FAR AS APPLICATIONS. 
          SO THESE ARE CODE COMPLIANCE. THE BUILDING PERMITS. THERE'S I THINK THERE'S 17 DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. WE SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THEIR LARGEST CATEGORIES COMMERCIAL ALTERATIONS AND NEW RESIDENTIAL ALTERATIONS. RESIDENTIAL ROOFING. THOSE THE RESIDENTIAL PARTICULARLY ARE PERMITS THAT WE SEE MOST OFTEN COMING THROUGH IN THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS. THESE ARE ALL COORDINATED THROUGH BUILDING. THEY GO THROUGH A REVIEW AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT THEY ALSO INVOLVE THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. THAT INCLUDES VERY DIRECTLY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING, BUT ALSO SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. NEXT IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. THOSE ARE THE APPLICATIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HANDLES. AS FAR AS COORDINATING THAT REVIEW SOME OF OUR MORE PREVALENT ONES, THE SITE PLANS AND SUBDIVISION PLATS. THOSE ARE THE PLANS THAT OFTEN COUNCIL IS SEEN THAT COMES BEFORE YOU. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER APPLICATIONS AND PROCESSES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS AS WELL. THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T HEAR ABOUT ZONING VERIFICATION LETTERS. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE PIE CHART. THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR ONES THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN NEXT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THESE ARE THE APPLICATIONS THAT THAT COME THROUGH ENGINEERING. AND THEY COORDINATE AGAIN OUR DEPARTMENT ENGINEERING. WE SEND THESE OUT TO ANYWHERE FROM USUALLY 12 TO 15 OTHER DIVISIONS, DEPARTMENTS THAT ALSO ARE PART OF THIS REVIEW. ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT. BUT THERE'S ALSO A HANDFUL OF OTHER THINGS WATER METER AUTHORIZATIONS, RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS, AND THINGS THAT ENGINEERING GOES THROUGH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. I DID JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL WHAT THE DIFFERENT, PARTICULARLY THE PLAN REVIEW LEVEL, WHAT THINGS COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND WHAT THINGS ARE STAFF REVIEW. SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN CAN SEE THAT UP THERE. YOU'VE GOT THE THE THREE COLUMNS THERE FOR WITH THE USE TYPE. THE FIRST COLUMN, THOSE ARE YOUR SMALLER PLANS. THOSE JUST ARE A STAFF REVIEW. THEY ARE ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION PLAN. THAT'S THE THE PLAN TYPE THAT THEY GET REVIEWED UNDER. TYPICALLY YOU SEE YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE LESS THAN 3 OR 5 ACRES OR VERY SMALL MULTIFAMILY, YOU KNOW, TYPE DEVELOPMENTS AS YOU THIS CHART SORT OF GOES UPWARD AS YOU MOVE TO THE RIGHT. THERE ARE SOME PLANS IN THAT CAN GO THROUGH JUST THE P AND Z BOARD APPROVAL. SO ACTUALITY, YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE A SITE PLAN THAT'S 3 TO 10 ACRES THAT TAKES THAT NEXT STEP FOR ONE PUBLIC HEARING AT PNC BOARD. AND THEY APPROVE IT OR OR DENY IT. THAT'S AT THEIR THEIR DISCRETION. IT DOESN'T COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL. AND THEN THAT NEXT LAST COLUMN, THOSE PLANS ARE ALL OF THE LARGER PLANS THAT THEN COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL RELATED TO THE SORT OF THE THE TRUE SITE PLAN PROCESS. AND IT'S BASED ON, AGAIN, THE ACREAGES AND SIZES AND THINGS. ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT COUNCIL MADE RECENTLY TO THIS IS THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS DO NOT COME THROUGH THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THAT WAS PART OF THE LOCAL ACT. SO THOSE ACTUALLY JUMP RIGHT INTO ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW. SO THOSE ARE NOT COMING THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS ANY LONGER. AND THEN I DID WANT TO NOTE A LOT OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT PARTICULARLY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TAKES IN REZONINGS CONDITIONAL USES. ALL OF THOSE THINGS, ANY ANY APPLICATION THAT ACTUALLY CHANGES THE USE OF LAND. THOSE ALL COME TO CITY COUNCIL. SO SITE PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE SORT OF CHECKING THE BOXES THAT THEY MEET OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. BUT 
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ANYTHING THAT ASKS FOR A CHANGE IN USE, THOSE COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. SO WE HAVE A FLOW CHART FOR EACH OF THE THREE OF THE DEPARTMENTS HERE. I'LL TELL YOU, THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY MUCH THE SAME PROCESS, SO I'M JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT THEM GENERALLY AND NOT BORE YOU WITH LOOKING AT EVERY LITTLE BOX ON ON EACH ONE HERE. SO THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS IS THE FIRST ONE UP. AND THEY GENERALLY GO THROUGH THE SAME STEPS. AN APPLICANT SUBMITS AN APPLICATION AND THROUGH INTER GOV STAFF THEN REVIEWS THAT APPLICATION TO DETERMINE AND GO THROUGH A COMPLETENESS CHECK. IF THEY'VE SUBMITTED ALL THE RIGHT DOCUMENTS AND EVERYTHING IS COMPLETE, THAT REVIEW COORDINATOR MOVES THAT ALONG AND SENDS IT OUT TO ALL THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS FOR REVIEW. IF THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING, IT GOES BACK TO THE APPLICANT THAT SAYS YOU'RE MISSING, YOU KNOW, ABC DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW, SURVEYS, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET UPLOADED THAT ARE REQUIRED WITH THE IN THIS CASE, PERMIT AND CASES IN ENGINEERING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WITH THE PLAN REVIEW. SO THAT HAPPENS UNTIL THE APPLICANT GETS ALL OF THE CORRECT THINGS SUBMITTED. AND THEN IT MOVES ON FOR REVIEW. AGAIN, THE REVIEW IS IS SORT OF SIMILAR THING. IF TYPICALLY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF HOURS THAT GET THROUGH, MAYBE MORE ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE. DEFINITELY NOT ON THE PLAN SIDE. THEY DON'T USUALLY MAKE IT THROUGH THAT FIRST REVIEW WITH NO COMMENTS. SO THERE'S USUALLY AT LEAST ONE ROUND OF COMMENTS THAT GO BACK OUT. WE SUBMIT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE TO THE APPLICANT. THEY THEN RESUBMIT, CHANGE THEIR PLANS, CHANGE THEIR PERMIT AND RESUBMIT IF THEY'VE IF THEY'VE ADDRESSED ALL THE COMMENTS, THEN THEY GO THROUGH AND GET APPROVED. IF THEY DON'T, THAT CYCLE GOES THROUGH UNTIL UNTIL THEY'VE ADDRESSED ALL THE COMMENTS. AND ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, AT THE END, WE ALL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT TIMING WHEN OUR FEES ARE PAID BETWEEN THE THREE DEPARTMENTS. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THAT YOU GO THROUGH. SO THAT'S IN OUR FLOW CHART. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND THEN ON ENGINEERING'S FLOWCHART THERE'S TALKS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT A LOT OF THE BACK END CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS THAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF THE PROCESS. SO LET ME SKIP OVER TO WE WE DO HAVE HOW TO VIDEOS AS PEOPLE WORK THROUGH INTER GOV. THESE ARE SPECIFIC TO SINGLE FAMILY HOME PERMITS WHICH IS WHAT WE SEE A LOT OF WITH RESIDENTIAL PERMITS. THEY'RE ALL THE PROCESS IS REALLY THE SAME IN INTER GOV. WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THESE STEPS, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WHETHER YOU'RE DOING BUILDING PERMITS, WHETHER YOU'RE DOING PLAN REVIEWS, IT'S ALL VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OUR APPLICATIONS NOW THAT ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE, SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN LOOK AHEAD AT ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO ANSWER FOR THE VARIOUS TYPES OF APPLICATIONS. CAN I JUMP IN? CINDY? YES, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD IN PROBABLY JUST RECENTLY. I THINK IT WAS AS SOMEWHERE THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF WORKING, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE LOCAL ENGINEERS THAT WORKS WITH US QUITE A BIT SAID THAT THAT WAS TRICKY AS THEY DIDN'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT THE NEXT QUESTIONS WERE GOING TO BE. SO IF THEY HAD SOMEONE ELSE IN THE OFFICE FILLING IT OUT, THEY THEY DIDN'T ALWAYS GIVE THEM THE RIGHT INFORMATION. SO WE ADDED THAT TO THE WEBSITE. YEP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO NOW I'LL MOVE INTO JUST SORT OF HIGHLIGHT. WE WENT BACK NOW SINCE WE STARTED THIS LAST MAY OR SO, AND WE WERE DOING PARTS OF LOOKING BACKWARDS AT 2024. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT 2025 IN A WHOLE AS TO THE AMOUNT OF REVIEWS THAT HAVE OCCURRED. SO ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE, THERE WERE 7318 BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS OF THOSE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS THAT CREATED 20,341 REVIEWS. AND SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, AND THIS IS THE CASE FOR BOTH BUILDING PERMITS AND PLAN REVIEWS, IS THAT THAT APPLICATION IS COUNTS AS ONE. BUT OFTEN, AS I SAID, THAT ONE APPLICATION MAY GENERATE THREE FOR REVIEWS TO THREE OR 4 OR 10 DIFFERENT PEOPLE. SO 20,341 ARE THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE'VE REVIEWED PERMITS AT WHATEVER STAGE THROUGH THE PROCESS. SAME THING WITH THE PLAN APPLICATIONS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING. THERE WERE 976 PLAN APPLICATIONS THAT GENERATED 1647 ACTUAL REVIEWS. 
          THAT INVOLVED ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. CAN I JUST INTERRUPT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT, WITH THE 7318 BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS ARE AND THEN MULTIPLYING IT TO THE 20,000, DOES THAT MEAN ON APPLICATION ONE, IT CAME IN, IT HAD ISSUES. 
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IT WENT BACK FOR ANOTHER REVIEW. SO THAT'S A SECOND REVIEW. BUT SAME PROJECT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. RIGHT. SO YOU COULD ESSENTIALLY IF YOU WANT TO DO THE QUICK MATH, IF YOU'D SAY OH THINGS WENT TOOK ABOUT THREE REVIEWS ON AVERAGE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU LOOKED AT IT LIKE THAT, OF COURSE SOME TAKE 1 OR 2 AND SOME TAKE 8 OR 9. SO IT'S JUST A, JUST AN AVERAGE THERE. BUT YES, THAT THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PIE CHARTS THAT JUST SORT OF BREAK DOWN THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FOR EACH OF OUR THREE DEPARTMENTS. 
          THIS IS THE BUILDING PERMIT, THEIR LARGEST NUMBER THERE IN THE BLUE IS THEIR RESIDENTIAL ALTERATIONS. THAT'S ONE OF THEIR BUSIEST CATEGORIES ALONG WITH RESIDENTIAL MECHANICAL ROOFING. THAT'S A POPULAR ONE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT BREAKS DOWN THE FIRST NUMBER. THERE IS THE NUMBER OF PERMITS AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE OF EACH OF THOSE. AND THEN AS WE WE MENTIONED, THESE PERMIT REVIEWS GO OUT. NOT ONLY DOES THE BUILDING STAFF REVIEW THEM, BUT ENGINEERING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, I THINK WHEN WE SAY 20 OR 30% OF THEM THAT THEN. SO THIS IS THE TOTAL OF ALL THOSE PERMIT REVIEWS AND THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY REVIEWING THEM. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GREEN MOST OF THOSE ARE GETTING REVIEWED IN BUILDING, BUT 20% THERE IS APPROXIMATELY WHAT THE OTHER R2 DEPARTMENTS ARE REVIEWING. 
          ALONG WITH THAT, AS FAR AS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, THE THE LARGE GREEN PIECE OVER THERE, THE 40%, THAT'S ZONING VERIFICATION LETTERS, THAT'S JUST BECOME A MORE AND MORE PROMINENT REQUEST THAT WE HAVE. THEY OFTEN TAKE SOME TIME. WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY HISTORY. THEY'RE WANTING VERIFICATION THAT SOME TYPE OF USE OR BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 30, 40 YEARS IS STILL A CONFORMING USE AND ALLOWED TO BE THERE, AND THAT THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE OKAY. SO THOSE MIGHT SOUND LIKE A SMALL THING. 
          VERIFY THE ZONING, BUT IT'S USUALLY MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH THAN THAT. WE ALSO HAVE THE OTHER HIGHEST CATEGORY THERE IS OUR HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD APPLICATIONS. THAT STAYS PRETTY BUSY WITH THOSE CATEGORIES ON ENGINEERING THE THE LIGHT BLUE THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY USE PERMITS. THAT'S A LARGE NUMBER THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE, ALONG WITH THE BROWN BEING WATER METER REQUIREMENT AUTHORIZATIONS. SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS PARTICULARLY RIGHT OF WAY USE PERMITS THAT TAKE A LOT OF REVIEW TIME TO GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND THEN AGAIN, SO THE PLANS THAT COME OUT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING, THEY GO TO BUILDING, THEY GO TO SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS. THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PLAN. REVIEWS BY DEPARTMENT FOR THE WHOLE CITY, PROCESS OF PLAN REVIEWS. 
          SO OUR WE HAVE PERMIT AND PLAN REVIEW TIME GOALS. NOT TO TELL YOU GUYS WHAT OUR GOALS ARE. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHAT WE ARE HITTING. BUT BUILDING FIVE BUSINESS DAYS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND TEN BUSINESS DAYS FOR COMMERCIAL IS THE GOAL OF THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW. AND I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT THOSE GOALS ARE HIT. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING, ON THE PLAN REVIEW SIDE, WE HAVE THAT SAME TEN BUSINESS DAY GOAL. I'LL TELL YOU AT OUR PEAK PERIODS, WHICH SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT NOT GOING AWAY FOR A WHILE NOW. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PLANS IN AND WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING MORE AT THAT 14 TO 21 DAY TIME FRAME. OBVIOUSLY SOME CAN BE QUICKER AND SOME CAN TAKE LONGER, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH PLATS AND LARGE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY DEFINITELY THEY'RE A LOT MORE DETAIL KIND OF REVIEW. THEY'RE LARGE PROJECTS AND THEY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TIME. SOME OF THE COMMON SUBMITTAL ISSUES THAT WE SEE, AND THIS HAS BEEN I CAN TELL YOU WHAT'S ON THIS LIST IS PRETTY CONSISTENT THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND IF ANYTHING, IT'S JUST MAYBE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT WORSE. AND I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THEM REALLY QUICK JUST SO YOU GUYS CAN SORT OF HERE. OFTEN THEY SUBMIT IT'S THE WRONG APPLICATION THAT'S SUBMITTED FOR. AND WE TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO SORT OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE REALLY ASKING TO DO OR TRYING TO DO. TYPICALLY PRETTY RARE THAT THERE'S EVER EVERYTHING INCLUDED ON THAT FIRST APPLICATION RUN. AS I SAID EARLIER, MAYBE THERE MAY BE SOME REALLY SIMPLE BUILDING PERMITS PLANS. THERE'S NEVER A 
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TIME WHEN THEY MEET 100% OF THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS RIGHT UP FRONT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE MORE AND MORE IS THEY DON'T PROVIDE THE REQUIRED FLORIDA BUILDING CODE OR CITY CODE DETAILS. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR US TO SEE REFERENCES TO, OH, THIS MEETS THE, YOU KNOW, OSCEOLA COUNTY REQUIRED LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE SEE THAT QUITE A BIT. A LOT OF TIMES THE SUBMITTALS DON'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL DATA THAT ARE REQUIRED TO GO WITH IT. A TRAFFIC STUDY, STORMWATER CALCULATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THEY SUBMIT PLANS AND A FEW OTHER DOCUMENTS. AND THEN THEY THEY LEAVE OUT SOME OF THOSE TECHNICAL REPORTS THAT STAFF GOT TO REVIEW. SO WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR REVIEW WITHOUT THOSE OTHER STUDIES. MANY TIMES THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE BY STAFF AREN'T ADDRESSED. SO STAFF'S MADE 15 COMMENTS THEY ADDRESSED 510 AREN'T ADDRESSED. SO WE GOT TO GO BACK THROUGH ANOTHER ROUND. THESE TEN COMMENTS DIDN'T GET ADDRESSED. AND THAT THAT CAN GO ROUND AND ROUND A FEW TIMES. IN SOME CASES. AGAIN, WITH BIGGER PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY BIGGER PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT PLANS OR PERMITS THAT THAT ARE JUST SUBMITTED WITHOUT A LOT OF QUALITY CONTROL. WHEN WE START SEEING THESE LARGE NUMBERS OF COMMENTS, IT GETS VERY TEDIOUS ON STAFF. WHEN YOU START HITTING A LARGE NUMBER OF COMMENTS, IT JUST MAKES IT HARDER DOWN THE ROAD. SO MAYBE WHAT'S TYPICALLY A 3 TO 4 REVIEW TIME FRAME? WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IN REVIEW SEVEN AND EIGHT. AND AND I KNOW THAT'S THAT'S PROBABLY AGGRAVATING FOR THE APPLICANT. IT'S STRESSFUL ON STAFF AS WELL AS SPECIFICALLY IF THEY'RE NOT ADDRESSING COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE. AND THEN ONE THING THAT'S PROBABLY UNIQUE TO MELBOURNE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BECOMING MORE OF SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, BUILT OUT CITY IN A LOT OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE SEEING ARE INFILL TYPE PROJECTS OR REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. SO THE LANDS AND THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE LEFT TO DEVELOP, THEY'RE A LITTLE TRICKIER AND HARDER TO FIT. YOU KNOW, THIS PIECE IN THE MIDDLE OF MAYBE WHAT'S ALREADY BUILT AROUND IT, THAT'S DEFINITELY CREATING A LOT MORE A LOT MORE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, DON'T DEAL WITH WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A BIG TEN, 20, 30 ACRE PARCEL OF LAND. SOME OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES THAT STAFF'S SEEN, THE CONTINUED, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATIVE STATUTORY CHANGES. 
          THAT'S SEEMING LIKE A REGULAR ANNUAL THING. NOW, ALL OF THOSE CHANGES THAT KEEP COMING DOWN, REQUIRING US TO CHANGE OUR PROCESS, AMEND OUR ORDINANCES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S TAKING A LOT OF TIME FOR FOR STAFF. A LOT OF THESE SORT OF COME WITH UNFUNDED MANDATES TO WE'VE GOT A REDO THE ORDINANCES CHANGE PROCESS THAT TAKES TIME TO RETRAIN STAFF, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THE THIRD PARTY REVIEW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S STARTED IN PLACE REALLY MORE ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THE PRIVATE PROVIDER ALLOWANCES FOR REVIEW. WE ARE SEEING THAT THOSE THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS, THEIR REVIEW QUALITY ISN'T REALLY THAT GREAT. WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF OVERSIGHT IN THE REVIEW, YOU KNOW, AS THAT COMES THROUGH, ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT THIRD PARTY VERSUS WHERE THEY'RE GOING WITH SOME OF THE THIRD PARTY REVIEW FOR MORE LAND DEVELOPMENT PLANS, THE BUILDING PERMITS, THOSE ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO WHAT'S GETTING BUILT IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WHEN WE MOVE OVER INTO THE PLAN REVIEW AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT STUFF, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY, THINGS THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO TO LIVE WITH. YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF HOW THINGS ARE BEING ARE BEING BUILT IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN THE LAST BULLET THERE, THERE'S JUST BEEN A GREATER DEMAND ON STAFF TIME OVERALL. A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST GENERALLY A LOT MORE PUBLIC INQUIRIES, A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE EXPECTATION OF IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, THINGS THAT STILL TAKE US TIME TO TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT HISTORY, PROPERTY RESEARCH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT ALL ADDS UP IN WHAT SORT OF TAKING US AWAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOME POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. WE THE FIRST BULLET IS ONE WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED THIS PAST YEAR WHEN COUNCIL CHANGED THE USER FEES, THAT 
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THERE'S A HIGHER DEVELOPMENT FEE CHARGE FOR REPEAT REVIEWS. SO EACH OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAS A DIFFERENT LEVEL. IT'S THIRD REVIEW OR SO. IF WE'VE CONTINUED TO MAKE THE SAME COMMENTS AND THINGS AREN'T MOVING ALONG, THEN THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL FEE THAT'S CHARGED AT THAT POINT. THE SECOND BULLET THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THESE ARE IDEAS OF, YOU KNOW, WAYS TO TRY TO GET BETTER PRODUCTS, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTED IN FOR REVIEW. WE'RE OFTEN SEEING SOME DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS JUST GOING AHEAD AND DOING WORK WITHOUT PERMITS, WITHOUT PLANS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL REVIEW FEES WHEN THAT HAPPENS. BECAUSE TYPICALLY THEN SOMETHING'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT OR DONE. AND THEN WE'RE HAVING TO BACKTRACK TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK AND WORK WITHIN THE CITY CODE OR FLORIDA BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS. THE LAST BULLET WE ACTUALLY DID ADD THE ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON THIS PAST YEAR, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS TO TRY TO GET QUICKER REVIEW TIMES IS REALLY TO ADD MORE STAFF TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. I KNOW THAT BUILDING I THINK MAY MAYBE HAS GAINED A PERSON OR TWO OVER THE YEARS. I CAN TELL YOU ENGINEERING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAVE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME STAFF WE HAD 25 YEARS AGO, AND A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES AND THINGS HAVE GROWN DURING THAT TIME. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO JUST MENTION, CODE COMPLIANCE, IS LOOKED INTO SOME OF THE AI OPPORTUNITIES AND SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE TODAY. ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE, THEY DON'T HAVE A FLORIDA BUILDING CODE SOFTWARE YET, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY UTILIZE AI IN A BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT INPUT FOR THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE TO REVIEW IT BY STAFFS GONE ON THEIR OWN AND LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. A LOT OF THEM. A LOT OF THE REVIEW SOFTWARE REVIEW BASED ON LIKE YOU ANSWERING A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, IT DOESN'T REALLY REVIEW THE PLAN. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT ODD. SOME OF THEM GO THE EXTREME OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND LIKE HIGHLIGHT EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE THING THAT COULD BE WRONG. SO THEN YOU HAVE LIKE 100 COMMENTS AND YOU HAVE TO GO SORT THROUGH WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT ISN'T REAL. AS FAR AS NONCOMPLIANCE THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD, IF THERE IS POTENTIALLY AI SOFTWARE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD WORK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW, THERE'S NOT BEEN A LOT THAT WE'VE SEEN YET ON THE PLAN REVIEW SIDE, BUT AS THAT COMES AVAILABLE, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. AND JUST THREE MORE QUICK SLIDES. I'M GOING TO JUST SHOW YOU GUYS THE THE STAFFING THAT WE HAVE IN EACH OF THE THREE DEPARTMENTS. SO BUILDING THEY HAVE TEN PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE STAFF THAT IS AND THE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TIME ON EACH ONE OF THOSE. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE NINE EMPLOYEES INVOLVED IN OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. AND AS I JUST STARTED TO MENTION, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW EXAMINER IS THE NEW POSITION THAT IS BEING SHARED BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING AND FUNDED THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING PERMIT FEE THAT COUNCIL APPROVED LAST MAY. THAT POSITION ACTUALLY JUST STARTED YESTERDAY, SO THAT WILL START HELPING US TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL FREER STAFF TIME ON OUR OTHER SIDES WITH THIS PERSON REVIEWING ALL THE BUILDING PERMITS FOR OUR TWO DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN ON ENGINEERING. ENGINEERING HAS SIX EMPLOYEES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. SO THAT'S THE END OF WHAT WE WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND WE'LL GET WHICHEVER ONE OF US UP HERE THAT IS APPROPRIATE. MR. HANLEY. 
          I BECAUSE I HAD SOMEBODY CALL ME AND I KNOW THAT I'VE TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT THIS, BUT IT WAS ABOUT FICTION. IT WAS ABOUT A REMODELING IN A COMMERCIAL BUILDING. AND IT WAS LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A BATHROOM. AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A COMMENT ON THERE ABOUT FIXTURES, AND THE PERSON DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION. SO THAT'S WHY I GOT KICKED OUT. HAS THAT BEEN ON FOR A LONG TIME OR IS IT JUST SOMETHING NEW WITH I. I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THAT'S A TAXING SITUATION. WAS IT A BUILDING PERMIT THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR FIXTURE COUNT OR A PLAN REVIEW? A FIXTURE COUNT COUNT COULD HAVE BEEN EITHER OF OURS. IS IT MAYBE, IS IT NEW OR IS IT BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A WHILE? IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A WHILE, AND I THINK WE 
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LOOK AT FIXTURE COUNTS FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS. ONE IS WE LOOK AT IT THAT WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES ARE BASED ON FIXTURE COUNTS. AND I KNOW THAT BUILDING DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT FIXTURE COUNTS ALSO, OR LOOKS AT WHAT FIXTURES ARE IN THE BUILDING. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING. JUMP IN THE REASON. THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. 
          I'M NOT HARASSING YOU, TRYING TO HARASS YOU, IS THAT SOMEBODY HAD CALLED ME AND THAT IT WAS BEING KICKED OUT. AND WHEN I CALLED, CALLED YOUR OFFICE AND ASKED ABOUT IT, THAT WAS ONE OF THAT WAS THE REASON BEING. AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER IT WAS SOMETHING NEW OR IT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR AT LEAST A YEAR. BEEN ON THE BOOKS TEN YEARS. OKAY. IT'S IT'S THE WAY WE CALCULATE USAGE OF WATER AND SEWER. AND SO WE NEED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY TOILET SINKS, THAT IT'S SOMETHING NEW. THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD HAVE. THEY SAID, OH AND THIS IS SOMEBODY THEY SAID, OH, WELL, WE'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. I'VE NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE, YOU KNOW, YADA YADA YADA. AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS SOMETHING NEW OR WHETHER WE, LIKE YOU SAID, IF IT'S TEN YEARS AND IF IT WAS ON THE PLAN REVIEW SIDE, IT'S IT'S PROBABLY BEEN ABOUT TEN YEARS. AND ANYBODY SUBMITTING IN THAT APPLICATION IS PROBABLY AN ENGINEER, AND THEY PROBABLY SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY OF THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW BECAUSE THOSE ARE THAT'S SOMETHING I'M I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER BECAUSE WE I'M SURE OTHER OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS GET OH, WELL, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH OUR PERMITS FOR THIS AND ALL THAT. AND THEN WHEN YOU FIND OUT IT'S NOT OUR STAFF, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS. YEAH. IT'S ACTUALLY AND IF I COULD JUMP IN, IT'S ACTUALLY THE IT'S KIND OF A MISCONCEPTION OF WHAT THE PUBLIC SEES. AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. AND, AND WHERE I THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GOING TO I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO ASK BECAUSE I'VE DEALT WITH OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR MANY YEARS, AND I LOVE OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE HAVE AMAZING PEOPLE. 
          AND I, YOU KNOW, I SEE I'VE SEEN HIM STRUGGLE WITH THE NEW SYSTEMS. AND SOMETIMES IF SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK, YOU KNOW, WE I REMEMBER BEFORE WHEN YOU HAD THE PAPER, EVERYTHING HAD TO BE HANDWRITTEN BY PAPER AND WE'VE GONE TO THE SYSTEM. BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT I GUESS WE'RE I MY QUESTIONS I WOULD ASK YOU IS, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE A FRIEND OF MINE THAT DID AN ADDITION AND IT TOOK HIM ALMOST A FULL YEAR TO GET THE PERMIT. AND I THINK A LOT OF IT TOO, IS HE WAITED AND WAITED AND IT KIND OF SAT THERE AND HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP WAS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY HE WOULD MAKE A CALL, GET A CALL BACK. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS IF MAYBE IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPDATE PEOPLE. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU IN A MONTH. WHAT'S YOUR STATUS ON SUBMITTING THIS? BECAUSE AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR THE CITY AND THEN WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM. AND THEN FINALLY IT COMES TO A HEAD WHEN THEY CALL A COUNCIL MEMBER, GO. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR MONTHS. 
          WELL, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S LIKE AND I HAD THAT THE OTHER DAY, BUILDING DEPARTMENT WAITING ON THEM. YOU KNOW, I'M ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REALLY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S FAULT, BUT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. SO THERE'S ALMOST A LACK OF ON WHERE TO GO, WHERE, WHERE WE GO FROM THAT. MAYBE YOUR ELECTRIC BILL WHEN IT'S NOT PAID FOR, MY, YOU KNOW, REMINDER EMAILS, SOFTWARE THAT YOU CAN PLUG IN. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS. YEAH. YOU'RE OVERDUE. YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. RIGHT. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO TELL I MEAN, THE INTERCOM SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, THE THE ONE REALLY GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS EVERY APPLICANT, THEY CAN GO IN AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY AND, AND LOOK AT THE STATUS AND WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHEN COMMENTS COME BACK IN. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE PROACTIVE AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, HEY, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP THEN A QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOR YOU. AND THIS IS TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE OR EITHER ONE OF YOU, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE USING THAT SYSTEM, DO THEY KNOW THAT OR ARE THEY ARE THEY EDUCATED ON I MEAN, MAYBE I KNOW THERE'S A VIDEO UP THERE THAT YOU CAN WATCH WATCH, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY'RE ADDRESSING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND I'VE DEALT WITH STAFF WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH INTO THE SYSTEM AND WHAT IT CAN DO, WHAT IT CAN'T DO WHEN IT'S WORKING PROPERLY. BUT IF YOU'RE IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE PICKING IT UP FOR THE FIRST TIME. DO THEY EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S AND IT'S PROBABLY MORE ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE MORE, YOU KNOW, OF A HOMEOWNER OR SMALLER PERSON THAT'S MAYBE NOT AS KNOWLEDGEABLE. SO I DON'T KNOW, STEVE, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO INPUT ABOUT THE PROCESS. EVENING COUNCIL MAYOR STEVE VENICE, BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. MY MAN GOV IS SET UP AND I CAN TELL YOU AS A LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR, I'VE PULLED PERMITS FROM MIAMI ALL THE WAY UP TO HERE AND OUR GOV IS VERY, IN MY OPINION, EASY. IF YOU ARE USED TO ELECTRONIC PERMITTING, WHICH ALMOST EVERY BUILDING DEPARTMENT NOW HAS ELECTRONIC PERMITTING, IT'S IT'S VERY OLD 
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TO HAVE PAPER PLANS. THAT'S CORRECT. WE USED TO GET PLANS STACKED AS HIGH AS THAT WALL IN THE BACK DAYS, OLD DAYS, AND HAVE 50 PEOPLE AT OUR COUNTERS, SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE SPEAKING. YEAH. SO TODAY'S ELECTRONIC PERMITTING SYSTEM, THEY'RE ALL GENERALLY THE SAME FORMAT. OWNER BUILDERS HAVE TO COME TO OUR COUNTER. WE EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW THEY HAVE TO DO IT. 
          WE UPLOAD STUFF FOR THEM, WE SET UP ACCOUNTS FOR THEM. SMALLER CONTRACTORS ALSO COME TO OUR COUNTER. WE EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW TO DO IT. WHEN WE WENT LIVE, WE ACTUALLY HAD A ROOFING CONTRACTOR COME AND VIDEO BEHIND US AS WE SET UP A PERMIT FOR THEM. THEY NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. SINCE THEN THEY'VE WATCHED THE VIDEO. SO ANYONE THAT HAS PROBLEMS, WE. YES, PLEASE COME IN HERE. WE SHOW YOU HOW TO DO IT. WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT. NOW, AS A LICENSED CONTRACTOR PROFESSIONAL, WE EXPECT YOU TO PUT YOUR BIG BOY PANTIES ON AND LEARN HOW TO DO THE SYSTEM AFTER A WHILE, BUT MOST OF THEM DO THE BIGGER CONTRACTORS. WE HAD A GUY FROM KANSAS APPLY FOR A PERMIT ONLINE AND CALL US UP AND SAY, THIS IS THE BEST SYSTEM WE'VE EVER SEEN. SO IT IS VERY, VERY VERSATILE. YOU CAN APPLY FOR A PERMIT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT ON GOV. SO YES, WE DO HELP SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN SOME OF THE SMALLER GUYS KIND OF STRUGGLE WITH ELECTRONIC, ESPECIALLY AS AN OLDER GENTLEMAN. YEAH, THAT ELECTRONICS ISN'T OUR THING. BUT WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH THEM. 
          WE INVITE THEM IN MISS LAND. BUT JUST FOR EXAMPLE, LAST WEEK WE HAVE LIKE A MOM AND POP THAT CAME IN. AND I KNOW THAT STEVE PERSONALLY HELPED THEM UPLOAD THEIR ITEMS BECAUSE HE REALIZED THAT THEY HAD UPLOADED SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T MATCH SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY HAD IN THEIR PERMIT. AND STEVE WALKED THEM THROUGH AND YOU SHOWED THEM HOW TO DO IT, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT LIKELY THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR SOMETHING AGAIN. AND SO WE WE HAVE RECOGNIZED, I THINK, A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT WAS A CONCERN OR A COMPLAINT THAT WE HAD HEARD, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SMALLER BUSINESSES. I'M NOT TALKING THE ENGINEERING COMPANIES AND THE DEVELOPERS THAT DO STUFF MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR WITH US OR MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK WITH US, BUT THESE, THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT THAT ARE NOT TRULY DEVELOPERS, WE REALLY TRY TO DO A LITTLE EXTRA HAND-HOLDING WITH THEM AND AND LIKE, LIKE THE BUILDING OFFICIAL JUST SAID, WE TRY TO DO WILL EVEN UPLOAD SOME OF THE STUFF FOR THEM. AND I WILL TELL YOU FROM A LOT OF EXPERIENCE THAT OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, I DON'T SEE THE ISSUE WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. I SEE THE ISSUE MORE WITH THE CUSTOMER NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT GOES THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THEN IT GOES TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THEN IT GOES. IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN YOU'RE PULLING A PARADE PERMIT, MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO FIRE THE CODE, THE BUILDINGS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. SO I'M WONDERING, IS THERE A LIKE A CHEAT SHEET WHERE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS OR OR THIS IS UNDERSTANDABLE. WE HAVE DOCUMENTS WE HAND OUT AT THE COUNTER THAT EXPLAINS HOW TO DO IT. WE HAVE THE VIDEOS EXPLAINING HOW TO DO IT. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. YEAH. AGAIN, IF THEY HAVE. YES. THE ONLY ONE OF MY MY CLIENTS THAT ARE BOTH BUILDING PERMITS, THEY LIKE THE SYSTEM, BUT THEY, THEY MISS TALKING TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE THEY THAT'S THE ONE THING THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT WAS COMING DOWN THE PIKE, WHAT WAS WHAT THEY WERE HAVING TO LOOK FOR. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THAT THEY SAID, YES, IT'S NICE TO BE GOING ONLINE, BUT WE MISS THAT ONE ON ONE. WE KNEW WHO TO CALL IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM. RIGHT. 
          THAT'S YOU KNOW, THEY COMING TO PUTTING THE PERMITS PAPERWORK IN MANUALLY. THEY SAID WE KNEW WHO EVERYBODY WAS AND WE COULD CALL. WE KNEW THE CALL THEM. UNFORTUNATELY STATE LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE ELECTRONIC PERMITTING. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC TO DO ELECTRONIC. I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE THE ISSUES THAT THEY THEY MISS TALKING TO YOU GUYS. RIGHT. QUESTION I HAVE TO WHERE WHERE ARE WE AS A CITY COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES ON PRIVATE ON ON PRIVATE PROVIDER, PRIVATE PROVIDER BY STATUTE IS ALLOWED IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. WE DON'T DISCOURAGE, WE DON'T ENCOURAGE. IT'S JUST ANOTHER SERVICE THAT IS PROVIDED BY PRIVATE PROVIDING FIRMS. SO IF YOU'RE A LICENSED PERSON, YOU CAN DO PLAN, REVIEW OR INSPECTIONS. CITY OF MELBOURNE ALLOWS IT. WE GIVE A DISCOUNT IF YOU USE THAT SERVICE 25% FOR INSPECTIONS, 25% FOR PLAN REVIEW. OKAY, I WILL TELL YOU FOR PRIVATE PROVIDER PLAN REVIEW SERVICES, NOT ONE COMMERCIAL PROJECT THAT USED PRIVATE PROVIDER HAS PASSED OUR PLAN REVIEW. NOT ONE. THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NOT ON WHAT I WOULD SAY. PAR. WELL, THEY WORK FOR THE THEY'RE GETTING PAID BY THE PERSON THAT THAT THEY'RE DOING THE INSPECTIONS FOR. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT. AND THEREFORE YOU KNOW NOT PAYING IT. AND PLUS YOU ARE KIND OF I WOULD SAY IN CHARGE OF AUDITING THOSE BOOKS OR THEIR WORK. YOU'RE NOT REALLY IN CHARGE, BUT YOU HAVE THAT AUTHORIZATION. I WOULD SAY THAT, RIGHT. THE PRIVATE PROVIDER, THE ONE DRAWBACK IS THEY WORK FOR THE CONTRACTOR INSTEAD OF 
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THE HOMEOWNER. WE WORK FOR THE HOMEOWNER. WE'RE IN THE PROTECT AND ENFORCE OF FLORIDA BUILDING CODE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, PRIVATE PROVIDERS. NOT THAT THEY DO GOOD OR BAD, BUT THEY ARE IN CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTOR. COULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. WELL, AND THE I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS WE SEE A MORE OF A PUSH WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO QUOTE, EXPEDITE THROUGH PRIVATE PROVIDER. DO YOU SEE THAT? I'M SURE. YES, YES. AND WHERE DO YOU SEE US? ARE WE JUST GOING TO STAY WHERE WE ARE OR DO WE? I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING YOU, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, WE DON'T OFTEN GET YOU HERE TO WHERE WE CAN ASK YOU QUESTIONS. WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? AND WE'LL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT THAT WE CAN MAKE IT SMOOTHER OR BETTER TRANSITION, ETC. SO THE FIT AND GRUMMAN, THE LAST TWO BIG PROJECTS, WHEN WE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND EXPLAIN OUR SERVICES, THEY DECIDED NOT TO GO PRIVATE PROVIDER AND THEY WENT WITH THE CITY. OKAY, SO OUR SERVICES ARE ON PAR WITH ANY PRIVATE PROVIDER OUT THERE. WE HAVE NEXT DAY SERVICES. OUR PLAN REVIEWS ARE 5 TO 10 DAYS. OUR SERVICE IS ON LEVEL WITH A PRIVATE PROVIDER AND A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR PROFIT. SO WE HAVE EXPLAINED TO THESE CONTRACTORS THAT YES, YOU GET A PRIVATE PROVIDER AND YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING A BETTER DEAL, BUT YOU'RE NOT. YEAH. SO LIKE I SAID, FIT AND GRUMMAN HAVE BOTH. AFTER MEETING WITH US AND DISCUSSING OUR SERVICES HAVE GONE WITH US FOR INSPECTION SERVICES. WELL, AND I WILL SAY LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WITH FLORIDA TECH, YOU KNOW, I'D FIELDED CALLS THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. AND I GOT A FEW OF THOSE AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE? AND I THINK IT WAS MORE THE AGAIN, IF WE HAD SOME ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEK AN AUTOMATED EMAIL, HEY, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO FOR EVERYBODY. 
          BUT THE FACT IS IT'D BE NICE AS A REMINDER. HEY, YOU'RE ALMOST THERE. YOU'RE 78. I WISH THERE WAS SOME. IF YOU TALK ABOUT USING AI, YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON AI, BECAUSE AI IS DESIGNED TO MAKE YOU WANT TO USE IT. THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT GETTING YOU MIGHT BE GETTING ANSWERS THAT ARE MORE TAILORED TO YOUR WHAT YOU WANT AS OPPOSED TO THE TRUTH. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD SOMEHOW BE MORE RESPONSIVE AND LIKE IN KIND OF A MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE AT THREE AND I THINK IT WAS LIKE THREE, THREE TIMES AVERAGE FAIL RATE, WHICH TO MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN I WAS ASKING AROUND, THAT'S KIND OF HIGH AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TOLD. THE AVERAGE IS LIKE 1.8 OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACCURATE, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE PEOPLE FAILING NUMEROUS SEVEN, EIGHT TIMES BRINGING THE NUMBER, I DON'T KNOW, AND NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG. I THINK TO ME, I THINK IT'S A MISCONCEPTION OF WHAT PEOPLE. YEAH OF WHAT THEY WHAT THEY WHAT I GUESS THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN AND SIGN SOMETHING IN THE PERMIT ALREADY, WHICH IS NOT THE, NOT THE FACT. CORRECT. ANY, MA'AM. GOOD. I HAVE A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME, SO I APPRECIATE IT. WHEN I DO GET THOSE CALLS. I CAN REFERENCE THIS, BUT SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT I HAVE GOTTEN, AND I THINK I'VE CONVEYED ALL OF THOSE TO CITY STAFF, AND I THINK WE'VE RECTIFIED THEM ALL. 
          ONE IS THAT COMMUNICATIONS PIECE, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST DOES IT COME OUT WITH AN ALERT LIKE, HEY, YOU HAVE A REVIEW ANSWER IN THERE, OR THEY HAVE TO GO IN THERE ON THEIR OWN. LIKE THAT MAY BE LIKE, HEY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN THE PORTAL THAT POSTED OR SOMETHING JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. BUT THOSE THAT COMPLAINT I DID GET, BUT THE OTHER COMPLAINT THAT I HAD GOTTEN, I THINK ON TWO OCCASIONS, IS THAT SOMEBODY WOULD PUT SOMETHING IN A PORTAL, FOR INSTANCE, THAT SCHOOL THAT WAS RENOVATING THEIR SPACE, THEY PUT SOMETHING IN THE PORTAL TO DO RENOVATIONS, AND THEN THEY HAD LIKE FIRE, THEY HAD WATER, THEY HAD ALL THESE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH. THEY PUT IT IN AND THEY'D GET MAYBE THREE REVIEWS. YOU HAVE TO DO A, B AND C, THEY DID A, B AND C, BUT THEN DEAF CAME A FEW WEEKS LATER, WHICH PERPETUATED THAT AND THEN NOT MEETING TIMELINES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO MEET THE TIMELINES, THEN THAT PERPETUATED IT EVEN MORE SO. I KNOW OUR STAFF WORKS VERY HARD, AND I KNOW OUR STAFF IS RUNNING AROUND LIKE CRAZY. SO AND I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN THEY DON'T GET THOSE NOTIFICATIONS, THEY'RE MAYBE NOT LOOKING IN AND THEY'RE NOT MEETING THEIR TIMELINE YET. SO IT'S JUST A BACK AND FORTH. SO SO WE ACTUALLY IN JAMES PROBABLY THE BEST TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT WE CAN EXPLAIN WHY. MAYBE YOU ONLY GET A FEW COMMENTS THE FIRST TIME, BUT WHEN YOU SUBMIT PLANS THAT DON'T SHOW ANYTHING NEAR WHAT THEY NEEDED TO THE FIRST TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE COMMENTS THE SECOND TIME. SO THIS IS THE EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE OF THE ONE YOU'RE SPEAKING OF. SO WITH THIS UTILITY ONLY PERMIT APPLICATION THAT CAME IN 
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ORIGINALLY FOR THE SCHOOL, THIS WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE RECEIVED. BASICALLY DETAIL THAT DID NOT HAVE THE CITY OF MELBOURNE'S UTILITY DETAILS ON THERE. THAT WAS THE VALVE ASSEMBLY WAS ACTUALLY ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED FOR USE OR USED IN ONLY VERY LIMITED SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S THE ONLY CHOICE. THE DID NOT HAVE ANY TYPE OF LOCATION INFORMATION. SO THEY BASICALLY DREW A WATER LINE ON A WHITE SHEET OF PAPER AND SAID, PLEASE LET US INSTALL THIS, RIGHT. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO. KIND OF MOVING THROUGH. WE SUBMITTED COMMENTS BACK AND I'M SORRY, I'VE HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. THAT'S IN THE PACKET RIGHT. THERE YOU GO. THIS WAS THE FINAL PLAN THAT ACTUALLY MET THE CITY STANDARDS THAT ADDRESSED ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT CAME ALONG WITH DOING THE PARTICULAR FIRE LINE AND WATER LINE CONNECTIONS FOR THIS FACILITY. FIXTURE COUNTS WENT INTO THAT. THAT GOES INTO SIZING OF THE UTILITIES. A LOT OF TIMES THE APPLICANTS THAT COME IN AND HAVE PROBLEMS, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY OPERATE WITH AN ASSUMPTION THAT, HEY, I'M JUST DOING A WATER LINE CONNECTION. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. THEY DON'T MAY HAVE NOT GOTTEN WITH THE PROFESSIONAL AND HAD SOMEBODY SIT DOWN AND EXPLAIN TO THEM JUST HOW INVOLVED THAT ONE WATER LINE CONNECTION IS, OR THE OTHER THINGS THAT IT MIGHT TRIGGER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS DO TO TRY TO ASSIST WITH THAT IS WE HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS WHERE FOLKS CAN COME IN, THEY CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, AND WE CAN SIT DOWN AND GIVE THEM THE HEADS UP. HEY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THIS. IT MAY TRIGGER THIS, THIS AND THIS, AND YOU REALLY SHOULD OBTAIN THE SERVICES OF A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, OR OBTAIN THE SERVICES OF A PROFESSIONAL GC THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEAD YOU DOWN THIS PATHWAY BETTER. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS, THEY COME THROUGH THE PROCESS ONCE. CAN'T BLAME THEM FOR NOT KNOWING THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE IT DAY IN AND DAY OUT. BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT WE CAN'T RELAX THOSE STANDARDS JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIVE IT DAY IN AND DAY OUT. BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH LIFE AND SAFETY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE FIRE LINE SIZING FOR YOUR BUILDING AND THAT BUILDING CATCHES ON FIRE, SOMEBODY COULD DIE. IF YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, PUT YOUR DRIVEWAY IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, PROVIDE FOR THE APPROPRIATE LINES OF SIGHT. SOMEBODY PULLS OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT AND GETS T-BONED. 
          SOMEBODY CAN DIE. A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ON THAT DAY TO DAY BASIS IN THE SYSTEM, WE LITERALLY ARE LOOKING AT LIFE OR DEATH SITUATIONS. I KNOW THAT WITH STEVE, A LOT OF HIS STUFF WITH FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, THEY, YOU KNOW, THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, THEY LIKE TO SAY IT'S WRITTEN IN BLOOD. I MEAN, EVERY STANDARD THAT GOES IN THERE IS USUALLY THE RESULT OF A HORRIBLE ACCIDENT, INJURY OR FATALITY. TRAFFIC STANDARDS, ENGINEERING STANDARDS, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE THE EXACT SAME WAY. SO A LOT OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY JUST ASSUME, WELL, I JUST I NEED A WATER LINE. I JUST NEED TO PUT A DRIVEWAY IN. I JUST NEED TO PUT A SIGN IN. AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT BACKGROUND BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE IT DAY TO DAY. BUT THAT'S ALSO WHY WE DO THE PRE APP. SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY EXPLAIN TO THEM UPFRONT SO THAT THEY CAN BETTER GAUGE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH THEIR PROCESS AND YOU KNOW, HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT IN THE END. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY ALL THREE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE IS SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS THAT SATISFY BOTH THE OWNERS, THE DEVELOPERS AND THOSE PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE JUST PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN ALSO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE SITES, IMPACTS ON A GREATER SYSTEM. SO AND I WILL SAY THAT ONCE. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE APPLICANT MET WITH CITY STAFF. IT WENT SO MUCH SMOOTHER AFTER THAT BECAUSE ONCE THEY START UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS AND THE SMALLER COMPANIES AND HOW TO DO IT, I THINK IT GOES A LOT SMOOTHER. BUT IT'S JUST THE TURNAROUND TIME IS JUST SO EXPENSIVE. OKAY, ANYBODY MORE STAFF, MAYBE JUST DOUBLE THE STAFF, MR. SMITH. GOOD. I'LL GET THE MONEY. FIRST OFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR SPENDING THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK TO TO DO THIS RESEARCH AND PULL THIS ALL TOGETHER. I KNOW, BUT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          AND AND IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU HEAR A LOT OF THE COMMONALITIES OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ALL COMMENTS THAT WE ALL MAY HAVE RECEIVED FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE, MAYBE THE SAME OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. SO I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. SO I REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE THAT. SO LET ME ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IF YOU HAVE A INDIVIDUAL OR CORPORATION AND THEY DO THE DIFFERENT CITIES OR THE COUNTY, RIGHT. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMPARISON. SO MAYBE SOMEONE CAN MAYBE HELP ME UNDERSTAND. HOW WOULD YOU THINK WE COMPARE TO THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY OR MUNICIPAL. ON OUR SIDE? YOU KNOW, WE REGULARLY HEAR FROM 
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THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE EASIEST, YOU KNOW, IF NOT THE EASIEST AND BEST TO WORK FOR AND HAVE PROJECTS PUT IN IN THIS COUNTY. SO THAT'S AND JENNY'S BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE. I MEAN, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHAPPY AT TIMES. BUT YOU KNOW, WE HEAR THAT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND LET ME JUMP ON AND I'M GONNA MAKE A QUICK COMMENT I WOULD AGREE. HOWEVER, I WOULD ALSO DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE WITH BART COUNTY AND LIKE I LIKE VIEW SPECS. AND WHAT VIEW SPECS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS WHEN YOU GO GET A DRY AN INFECTION, INSTEAD OF HAVING AN INSPECTOR GO, YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE A TAKE YOUR CELL PHONE, CLICK IT. THE INSPECTOR IS RIGHT THERE ON YOUR PHONE AND HE CAN SAY, SHOW ME THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, AND YOU CAN SHOW HIM AND PASS THERE. 
          AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THAT KIND OF APP. SO AGAIN I LIKE THERE'S SOME THINGS I LIKE. BUT THEN AGAIN YOU GO TO SOME BEACHSIDE AGENCIES AND THE BUILDING OFFICIALS NOT THERE UNTIL NEXT THURSDAY. SO YOU'RE AND THAT'S TRUE. AND YOU'RE WAITING FOR TWO WEEKS WHEN WE WOULD HAVE IT DONE. THE NEXT COMMENTED MORE ON THE PLAN SIDE THAN BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE WE'RE. AND THAT ALL COMES DOWN TO LEVERAGING, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING VIEW SPEC WHICH DOES THAT I KNEW IT, WE WERE JUST WAITING FOR THE SOFTWARE TO TIE INTO OUR PERMITTING SOFTWARE LIKE THAT. 
          SO VIEW SPEC IS GOING TO BE ON PROBABLY NEXT COUNCIL MEETING'S AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN THAT THAT WILL GIVE US VIRTUAL INSPECTIONS. NOW I'LL TELL YOU I'M A SKEPTIC OF VIRTUAL INSPECTIONS. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE ITSELF TO ME BECAUSE I'M NOT THERE IN PERSON TO SEE IT. I'M COUNTING ON A PHONE, BUT THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE IT AND GET IT. AND I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF MR. SMITH'S QUESTION IS THAT COMPARING US TO COUNTY TO PALM BAY, TO COMPARING ANYBODY TO ANYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD, IT'S OUR JOB TO BE THE BEST THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN MELBOURNE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN GO SHOPPING FOR THEIR PERMIT PROCESSING IN PALM BAY OR THE COUNTY. IT'S IN OUR THERE'S COMPARISONS OR COMPARISONS. THAT'S FINE. 
          WHETHER YOU HAD A BETTER TIME IN PALM BAY OR YOU HAD A BETTER TIME IN ROCKLEDGE, OR WE DID A BETTER JOB IS IRRELEVANT. IT REALLY IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PROPERTY IS. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE PERMITTING IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. SO WHEN WE ASK ABOUT COMPARISONS, OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS THE MOST COMPLAINTS, WHO HAS THE LESS COMPLAINTS. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE HAVE THE LESS COMPLAINTS AND THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD FASTER BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS TO TO DEVELOP, AS YOU SAID, CINDY, TO YOUR POINT IS, THERE WERE MORE BUILT OUT THAN MOST OTHER PLACES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE MYSELF TO OTHER, OTHER AREAS. I JUST DON'T BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ASKING THE PERMIT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PROCESS IN, IN PALM BAY, SEEING HOW IT'S IN MELBOURNE. RIGHT. DID YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING. WE HAVE LESS TO DEVELOP. OUR PROPERTIES ARE MORE COMPLICATED. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF JUST GREEN FIELDS AS THE ONES OUT THERE. THE REDEVELOPMENT I'M GETTING CALLS ON REDEVELOPMENT, PROCESSING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT IS JUST LIKE IT'S IT'S UNBALANCED. YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW OR OTHER YOU'LL FIGURE IT OUT. WE'LL ALL FIGURE IT OUT. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, BUT I THE COMPARISON THING JUST DOESN'T FLY WITH ME. AND I'M GOING TO DEFEND VIEW SPECS. ONE THING THAT I THINK YOU'LL LIKE IS THE VIDEO OPTION. THE FACT IS IT'S NOT JUST PICTURES. YOU KNOW THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HE HE DETERMINES WHAT HE WANTS. AND INSTEAD OF A A PICTURE HE CAN DO TEN PICTURES VARIOUS ALL ANGLES AND OH RUN ME 245 SECOND VIDEOS THAT I CAN WATCH. AND THEN IT'S SAVED AS A DOCUMENTATION THAT KEEPS OUR INSPECTORS FROM HAVING TO GO OUT AND, YOU KNOW, DOING ALL THIS PAPERWORK AND IT'S ALL SAVED. YEAH, THERE'S MORE YOU HAVE TO UPLOAD AND HOLD, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ALSO PUTTING IT ON THEM. IT ALSO SAVES OUR HOMEOWNERS A DAY OR TWO OF TAKING OFF WORK TO BE HOME, BECAUSE WE CAN DO THAT INSPECTION QUICKER. ABSOLUTELY. YES, EXACTLY. MAYOR I'LL FINISH. 
          GO AHEAD. SO BEING AT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND I REMEMBER BEING NEWLY ELECTED, I WAS AT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING AND THERE WAS A CITY THERE TALKING ABOUT AI. 
          AND AND SO I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHAT OTHER CITIES AROUND FLORIDA, HOW TO USE AN AI. AND WE'VE HAD A COMPANY COME OUT TO A SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING AND TALK ABOUT THEIR SYSTEM ALSO. AND AT ONE OF THE TALLAHASSEE VISITS, THERE WAS A SECRETARY THERE, AND THEY WAS TALKING ABOUT THINGS SUCH AS USING SWIFT GOV REDUCE REVIEW TIMES FROM 30 DAYS TO TWO DAYS. RIGHT. NAPLES IS USING AI, GAINESVILLE, JACKSONVILLE. BUT THE CITY THAT REALLY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT LOCALLY THAT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH WAS ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WERE USING AI FOR SITE PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I AGREE WITH THE WITH THE COMPARISON. BUT AND I GET I 
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HEAR A LOT OF TIMES, OH MELBOURNE STAFF IS WONDERFUL, ESPECIALLY IN COMPARISON. SO THAT'S ONE THING. SO I'M GLAD THAT EVERYONE IS HEARING THAT. AND WE ALL AGREE THAT. BUT ONE OF THE POINTS AND AS I READ, I MAKE SOME NOTES HERE, IT SAYS THE VOLUME OF INFORMATION ASSISTANCE REQUESTED BY BOTH CITIZENS AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS CURRENTLY AT ONE OF THE HIGHEST LEVELS SEEN BY STAFF IN MANY YEARS. SO WHEREAS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST APRIL AND THEN NOW WE'RE HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW, I JUST WANT TO SORT OF ENCOURAGE US TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY AS A WAY OF CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT SORT OF REPUTATION, BUT THEN ALSO REALLY LOOK AT CONTINUOUS PROCESS IMPROVEMENT AND WHATEVER THE WHATEVER THOSE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS ARE, THE AMOUNT OF TIME. AND IF WE IF WE HAVE WAYS THAT WE CAN REDUCE THAT AND BE ABLE TO STAND ON, YOU KNOW, TEN TOES DOWN AND SAY, HEY, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A REPUTATION FOR PERSONABLE CUSTOMER SERVICE, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT USING TECHNICAL ASPECTS TO SAY THAT WE WERE HERE. BUT NOW, DUE TO A CHANGE OR A SHIFT IN OUR PROCESSES, WE'RE NOW HERE AND I AND I'LL MAKE THIS FINAL POINT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO TO US TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW. AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN A SETTING WITH COUNCIL, MAYOR AND STAFF, BUT THESE ARE THE TYPES OF PROCESSES THAT ARE SORT OF, I WOULD SAY, ARE CUSTOMER FACING PROCESSES THAT I REALLY WOULD HAVE NO ISSUES WITH. IF IT'S JUST US TALKING, WELL, MAYBE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE BROUGHT IN SOME OF THOSE, THOSE CONTRACTORS, SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPERS AND, AND NOT REALLY TO MAKE IT SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, A WITCH HUNT, BUT REALLY TO JUST REALLY LISTEN TO THEM AND MAYBE TAKE SOME, YOU KNOW, GUIDANCE OR INPUT FROM THEM TO TO REALLY INCORPORATE SOME OF THE CHANGES AND THINGS THAT, THAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT WE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR DAY TO DAY ROLE OR JOB THAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH. SO I HAVEN'T SHARED THIS WITH STAFF YET, BUT WE WERE ACTUALLY APPROACHED WAS THAT WE'RE THE BUILDING. THE HOME BUILDER AND CONTRACTORS APPROACHED US. IF THEY COULD HAVE A SMALL GROUP POSSIBLY COME AND MEET WITH OUR STAFF AND GO OVER SOME ISSUES THAT THEY HAD, AND I TOLD THEM I WAS VERY OPEN TO JUST GET WITH US WITH A TIME OF WHEN THEY WANTED TO DO THAT, AND WE'D WORK OUT SOME DATES ON THAT. AND THAT'S JUST HAPPENED IN LIKE THE LAST THREE WEEKS. THAT'S GOOD. I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, RIGHT? AND ESPECIALLY IF WE STAND, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE FIRM ON, HOW GOOD WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THAT ANYTHING'S WRONG, BUT CONTINUOUS PROCESS IMPROVEMENT SO THAT WE CAN GET BETTER. WELL, AND ALSO IF WE COULD EDUCATE THEM ON LOOK LIKE LIKE SOME OF THIS STUFF DON'T DON'T SUBMIT THIS, DON'T SUBMIT THAT, SUBMIT THIS THIS AND THIS. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT THREE DOWN TO 1.5. AND YOU KNOW I THINK IF WE EDUCATE THEM WE CAN DO THAT. RIGHT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN HOUR. AND I'M GOING TO COMPARE REAL QUICK, MR. LARUSSO, THE DEALING WITH MANY OTHER BUILDING DEPARTMENTS. OH, I'M SURE WE WE ALL OUR STAFF IS SEASONED. I GO TO A LOT OF BUILDING DEPARTMENTS AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, HE'S KIND OF NEW. HE'S NOT SURE. LET ME GO ASK BOB IN THE BACK. OH, BOB, NOT HERE. BECAUSE BOB. BOB HAD TO GO DO SOMETHING AND HE HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER INSPECTION. 
          ONE THING ABOUT OUR OUR STAFF, THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL SEASONED AND THEY PRETTY MUCH CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. IF NOT, THEY PROBABLY CAN GET IT PRETTY QUICK. SO I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN I SEE OURS AND YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE LUCKY, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE BECAUSE OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL WILL TELL YOU, PETE CITY'S BUILDING OFFICIALS LIKE FEATHERS. I MEAN, THEY CAN TAKE YOU, THEY'LL TAKE YOU QUICK. AND I KNOW ONE BUILDING OFFICIAL THAT MOVED AROUND, WHAT, SEVEN TIMES. AND I WON'T SAY ROBERT'S NAME BE OKAY, BUT BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THAT PEOPLE ARE PICKING AND PICKING AND PICKING BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A HARD LICENSE TO GET. AND ONCE YOU GET IT, IT'S GOLD. I MEAN, IT IS YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH WRITE YOUR OWN TICKET. SO AND THEN AND THEN NOW THE PRIVATE PROVIDERS, THEY YANK IT. SO BUT ANYWAY, I MEAN I'M BY EVERYTHING ELSE. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. IT'S A REALLY GOOD MEETING. AND YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE CAN GO BACK AND EDUCATE EVEN SOME OF THE PUBLIC WHO CAN COMPLAIN. AND NOW IT'S REALLY I'VE EVEN TOLD A LOT OF THEM. ALL RIGHT. WHAT DID YOU NOT SUBMIT. YOU KNOW WHO'S YOUR PLUMBER. DID THEY SUBMIT THAT? WELL, LET ME FIND OUT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO FIND THAT OUT. RIGHT. YEAH, BUT ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. WE GOOD? WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. STAFF I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE DONE. PRETTY MUCH. EXCEPT PETITIONS WERE MONSTERS OF THE 
          [D. PETITIONS, REMONSTRANCES, AND COMMUNICATIONS]
COMMUNICATIONS THEN. NO BLUE SHEETS, NO MEMOS, NOTHING. RIGHT. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT, SO YOU WANT TO START OUT, MISS BASSETT? SURE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON. 
          JUST THAT IT'S. IT'S COLD SEASON. EVERYBODY KEEP WASHING YOUR HANDS. YEAH, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. IT'S HIT MY HOUSE PRETTY HARD RIGHT NOW, SO. YEAH. THAT'S IT. GOOD. JENNY, I'VE GOT A QUESTION I KEEP ASKING. IT'S ORLANDO. THE ONE ON WICKHAM ROAD IS THE ORLANDO. 
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ORLANDO HEALTH BUS STOP. WE HAVEN'T FOUND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BUS STOP BECAUSE IT'S. YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE. IT'S GOING TO GET REALLY HOT. IN ANOTHER MONTH. I'M GOING TO PUT JAMES ON THE SPOT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNTY ABOUT THE BUS STOP IN FRONT OF THE OLD WUSTHOF. IT'S CALLED ORLANDO HEALTH NOW. WE HAVE NOT COME UP WITH A. SORRY. DANNY STRAUB, OUR ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER. SHE'S BEEN HANDLING THE DAY TO DAY ON THAT. SO? SO WE ATTEMPTED TO PUT A BUS STOP IN THAT LOCATION. IN THE TEENS. I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT YEAR THAT WAS. THERE'S NO RIGHT OF WAY OUT THERE. SO WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT ACQUIRING AN EASEMENT FROM THE HOSPITAL PROPERTY. I WILL BE CONTACTING THEM AGAIN TO SEE IF I CAN GET THAT TO MOVE FORWARD. AT THIS POINT. 
          THIS IS THE ONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF WICKHAM, CORRECT? CORRECT, YES. SO I WILL DOUBLE CHECK, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT ANY PHYSICAL SPACE FOR AN EASEMENT OR A BUS SHELTER TO GO IN THAT LOCATION, BECAUSE WITH PEOPLE COMING TO THE DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I MEAN, HERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND GET OUT THERE. OKAY. CONCUR. YEAH. WE JUST NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BIG ENOUGH FOR THAT. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. AND SO REALLY, THE ONLY THING WE'RE WAITING ON WOULD POSSIBLY BE AN EASEMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. I CAN I CAN SEE I HAVE A SET OF CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ON MY DESK RIGHT NOW WITH THE HOSPITAL. I CAN CONTACT HIM. I CAN I THINK I CAN GET IT. YEAH. I HAVE A CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS FOR SOMETHING ELSE AT THE HOSPITAL ON MY DESK RIGHT NOW. I JUST FINISHED MY REVIEW ON THEM WHILE YOU GUYS WERE MEETING, ACTUALLY, AND SO I WILL REACH OUT TO THEM ALSO BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM FOR A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. IT'S TIME THAT WE REALLY NEED SOMETHING THERE. THAT'S PERFECT TIMING. IF THEY'RE REVIEWING. YEAH OKAY. YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE ACTUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT A POTENTIAL COLD CASE ON SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. SO THEY HURRIED UP AND GOT ME STUFF. SO I HAVE CONTACTS WITH THE HOSPITAL STAFF DIRECTLY. GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ACTUALLY THANK YOU MAYOR AGAIN. MAYOR, I LOVE THE WAY THE EYEBROWS GO UP. 
          FIRST. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THE STAFF ON THE EXCELLENT PRESENTATION THEY JUST DID ON THE REVIEW PROCESS. THE PERMITTING PROCESS. ANOTHER ONE. MAYOR, WHILE BACK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE LOOK AT IS DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN I THINK THAT WILL BE SOMETHING ALSO TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT. I ATTENDED THE MELBOURNE FOUNDERS PRAYER BREAKFAST SATURDAY OVER THE WEEKEND. THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT. I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF THAT SHOWED UP, THE POLICE, CITY MANAGER AND OTHERS THAT SHOWED UP FOR THAT EVENT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THAT WAS REALLY VERY WELL ATTENDED, AND I LEARNED A LOT FROM DOCTOR PATTERSON IN HIS PRESENTATION. IT WAS IT WAS GREAT. AND THEN ON THIS FRIDAY. THE MUSEUM IS HAVING A FASHION SHOW. THERE ARE ROBOT LOVE FASHION SHOW. 
          I'LL BE IN IT WITH A COUPLE OTHER ROBOT LOVE. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. SO AND I AND I'VE HEARD THAT THIS IS THE LAST EVENT AT THE MUSEUM, SO HOPEFULLY. YEAH, HOPEFULLY PRETTY MUCH SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE AROUND YOU MAY WANT TO STOP BY FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S IT. OKAY. GO AHEAD. JUST A FEW THINGS I OF COURSE, YOU KNOW AMERICAN PRIDE IS IS BUSTING WITH THE MEN'S HOCKEY LEAGUE HOCKEY TEAM USA, USA, USA. RIGHT. 46 YEARS AGO IS WHEN THE MIRACLE ON ICE HAPPENED. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM FOR ACCEPTING AN INVITATION TO THE WHITE HOUSE AS WELL, TO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE US WOMEN'S HOCKEY TEAM. THEY WON 1998, 2018 AND 2026 NOW. SO YOU KNOW, NO BETTER TIME TO BE 250 YEARS OLD AS AS A COUNTRY. YOU KNOW, JUST IT'S A GREAT WAY TO TOP IT OFF. 50 YEARS OLD. YEAH, WELL, I AM ANYWAY. I ATTENDED MY FIRST TPO MEETING LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE. THAT WAS THE FIRST MEETING IN 16 YEARS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE WHOLE PART OF IT, BUT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, MISS HANLEY AND MR. SMITH WERE THERE, WAS ACTIVE AND ENGAGED CONVERSATION. BUT I'M DISAPPOINTED IN A LOT THAT HAPPENED THERE, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME CONVERSATION THAT I HEARD 16 YEARS AGO AND THE CONSULTANT THAT CAME TO THE TABLE AND GAVE A 45 MINUTE PRESENTATION HAD 2000, HAD YEAR AND A HALF OLD NUMBERS, AND I HAD TO TAKE HIM TO SCHOOL ON ONE PARTICULAR THING THAT WAS NOT THAT WAS NO LONGER 
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AVAILABLE IN STATE TAXES. AND THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE AVIATION FUEL. AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW 4.2 $0.07 PER GALLON TIMES MILLIONS OF GALLONS. AND HE PUT IT INTO THE, INTO THE BUCKET THAT, OH, WE CAN APPLY FOR THAT MONEY. NO YOU CAN'T. SO ANYWAY, WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH THAT LATER ON. AND MISS HANLEY AND MISS SMITH, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE. THE I MET WITH THE INTERIM COMMANDER AND MISS LAMB WAS ON THE CONFERENCE CALL. AND WE'RE STILL CONTINUING WITH THE DAV TO SEE WHERE WE STAND. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN REGARD TO THE POTENTIAL, EXCUSE ME, OF THE LAND AND BUILDING DONATION, AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT AND ROLLS OUT AS THEY PUT TOGETHER THEIR NEW LEADERSHIP STAFF AS WELL. TO THE PAST COMMANDER HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE OF HEALTH ISSUES. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE AIRPORT FOR THE $2.5 MILLION OF GRANT FROM THE FROM GOVERNOR DESANTIS FOR THE WORKFORCE FUND. THAT, AS YOU READ ABOUT 400 JOBS, 775,000 TO WHATEVER PER JOB. 
          AND THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING IS AT A CONFERENCE CALL WITH MR. DONOVAN TODAY IN PREPARATION FOR TOMORROW'S MEETING, TOMORROW MORNING'S MEETING, THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE TO COME AND SOME REALLY HUGE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THERE. SO HOLD ON TO YOUR SEATS. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO DO IS CONGRATULATE SHANE LEACH ON HIS. PROMOTION TO FIRE CHIEF, I THINK IS A GREAT CHOICE BY OUR CITY MANAGER, AND I APPLAUD HER FOR THAT CHOICE. AND I GIVE MR. LEACH COMMAND TO FIRE CHIEF LEACH ALL THE RESPECT IN THE WORLD, AND I HOPE THAT HE COMES TO ALL THE DECISIONS HE WANTS TO MAKE AND ALL OF THE PROGRESS HE WANTS TO DO. AND I THINK THAT, OH, I'M GOING TO BE IN TALLAHASSEE. I'M LEAVING ON THE THIRD ON TUESDAY AND COMING BACK ON THE FIFTH. SO I'M REACHING OUT TO ALL OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT I CAN BRING ABOUT WITH ME, I'VE REACHED OUT AND WE HAVE NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS. I'M SPEAKING IN FRONT OF TWO COMMITTEES AND ALSO MEETING WITH MORE THAN JUST OUR OUR LEGISLATORS OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT FOR OTHER MATTERS THAT CONCERN US AS INDIVIDUALS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I WANT TO SAY THAT I HOPE THAT NEXT YEAR THAT THERE WAS A THERE WAS THERE WAS A MR. SMITH YOU ENGAGED WITH FAST. 
          YOU YOU JUMPED ON IT AND YOU'RE GOING UP TO WASHINGTON, DC AND AND YOU'RE GOING TO REPRESENT US. AND THERE'S ONLY ONE THEY RECOMMEND ONLY ONE PERSON SO THAT THERE'S NO SUNSHINE LAWS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BROKEN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO ONLY ONE PERSON PER DISTRICT, PER COUNCIL CAN GO GENERALLY IN THE PAST. AND ALTHOUGH WE'VE NEVER REALLY DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT GENERALLY IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN THE MAYOR'S CHOICE AS TO ACTUALLY WHO GOES AND WHO DOESN'T GO AS HIS, BECAUSE MAYOR ALWAYS HAS THE FIRST CHOICE, ALWAYS HAS THE FIRST CHOICE, AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I HOPE THAT NEXT YEAR I WON'T BE HERE. I HOPE THAT NEXT YEAR YOU'LL INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR CONVERSATIONS AND CONSIDER ENTIRE. IT'S NOT FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. SO IT'S SO IMPORTANT. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME ANYBODY FROM THE CITY EVER WENT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY THAT ENGAGING AT ALL. LAST THING I WANT TO TELL YOU, I KNOW I'M TRYING TO GET THROUGH IT REAL FAST. OKAY. THANKS. 
          THERE IS. BEFORE I ASK KEVIN TO PUT IT UP THERE, THERE WAS A CONCERT THAT I ATTENDED THAT I WAS INVITED TO ON SUNDAY BY THE JEWISH DELEGATION HERE IN, IN BREVARD. THERE WAS A THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A GROUP CALLED 613. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THAT MEANS IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT THEY'RE AN ACAPELLA GROUP. AND THEY PERFORMED AT THE FIT GLEASON CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS. AND GLEASON CENTER HOLDS 480 TO 483. I LOOKED IT UP, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY STANDING ROOM ONLY. AND WE THINK OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY IS SO SMALL. NOT AT ALL. SO IF YOU COULD PUT THAT UP THERE, PLEASE, KEVIN, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO HIM, THESE SIX GUYS. NOW, THIS GROUP IS 20 YEARS OLD. AND THE GUY ON THE RIGHT, HIS NAME IS MIKE. HE HE STARTED THE GROUP WAY BACK WHEN. THEY HAVE PERFORMED IN FRONT OF PRESIDENT OBAMA, IN FRONT OF LEGISLATORS, GOVERNORS, HEADS OF STATE, FOREIGN ENTITIES. AND THEY BRING A MESSAGE OF UNITY AND PEACE. I WAS VERY MOVED BY IT. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW 
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THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY PART OF OUR COMMUNITY LIVES AND BREATHES HERE IN MELBOURNE. AND SO I WAS HONORED TO BE THERE WITH HIM. THAT'S ALL I GOT. IF YOU GOT SOMETHING FOR ME TO TO TALK ABOUT UP IN TALLAHASSEE NEXT WEEK, BY ALL MEANS GIVE ME A CALL OR SEND IT TO JENNY OR WHATEVER. BUT I'M ON MY WAY. PROPERTY TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES. I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN JUST THAT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? HERE'S THE THING. THERE'S NO COMPANION BILL TO MILLER'S PROPOSITION. 
          HER HER HOUSE BILL. NOW IT'LL PASS, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ON THE SENATE THAT'S COMING FORWARD. AND HEARING WHAT THE SENATE PRESIDENT HAS TO SAY IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT NEEDS, AND THEY COME TO THE TABLE WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES. THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO FROM HERE. THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AS AS DEVASTATING AS WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE IN THIS SESSION. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, THAT'S MY THOUGHT, THAT'S WORKING WITH MR. CHRIS FOLEY. AND I'LL BE HAVING A WE'LL BE HAVING A CONFERENCE CALL BEFORE I GO UP THERE AS WELL TO, TO NAIL DOWN A COUPLE OF THINGS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I WANT TO APPROACH AS WELL, TOO, AS STATE OF FLORIDA AS OUR COMMUNITY, NOT JUST PROPERTY TAXES AND WATER UTILITIES. OH GOD, THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO KICK OUR BUTTS UP THERE, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THIS STUFF. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YEAH. VICE MAYOR, MY TURN NOW. YES, MA'AM. THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP AGAIN, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED ONCE OR TWICE IN THE PAST, IS THE ELECTRIC SCOOTER. THEY'RE GETTING SO BAD. THEY REALLY ARE. I JUST HAD A STUDENT WIPE OUT ON THE WAY HOME FROM SCHOOL. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY TRAVEL FAST, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TWO OF THEM TRAVELING FAST AND THEN YOU HAVE A PEDESTRIAN WALKING AS WELL, AND I KNOW WE'RE SORT OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES AND SAYS ON THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A BILL UP THERE TO TRY TO REGULATE THEM. BUT I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO FALL OFF THE RADAR FOR US. IN FACT, ADAM AND I JUST SPOKE ABOUT IT WAS THAT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON ABOUT THE WHAT'S NEXT? AND ADAM'S ALREADY PREPARED A LEGAL MEMO, AND I'M WORKING WITH POLICE ON HOW ENFORCEMENT COULD WORK. SO. OKAY, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, VICE MAYOR. MY ONLY CONCERN IS, BESIDES, WHATEVER. IF WE DID PASS SOMETHING, HOW DO WE ARE WE ABLE TO AND HOW DO WE ENFORCE IT? CORRECT. AGREED. THAT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE. 100% AGREE. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. SO IS THERE ANYTHING ANYBODY ELSE BUT I DO JUST ONE MORE THING. I DO BELIEVE THAT SATELLITE AND COCOA ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING GOING. SO MAYBE JUST BECAUSE I KNOW SATELLITE HAD A BIG COMMUNITY FORUM ON IT JUST TO LOOK, MAYBE GET AN IDEA. AND MAYOR, THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN'T DO IS SUPERSEDE WHAT THEY DO. SO IF WE WHATEVER WE PUT IN PLACE, WE CAN ALWAYS DRAW BACK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE THE MOST STRICT IN, IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY OR IN THE ENTIRE STATE, WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE. BUT WHEN THE LEGISLATURE COMES, LEGISLATION COMES OUT WITH THEIR BILL AND IS PASSED AND ITS LAW, THEN WE HAVE TO DRAW BACK FROM THAT. SO IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S GO FOR IT. YEAH. OKAY. YOU HAD SOMETHING. I TOTALLY BLANKED ON IT. BUT I DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEW FIRE CHIEF, SHANE LEACH. WE I KNOW HE'S GOT GREAT THINGS PLANNED, SO SUPER DUPER CONGRATULATIONS. CAN. YEAH. WE ARE GOING TO DO A SWEARING IN HERE. YEAH. AND SO I'M NOT SURE THE TONIGHT DIDN'T WORK OUT. AND SO AT ONE OF OUR UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETINGS POSSIBLY THE NEXT ONE. YEAH. AND LIKE I SAID I'VE ALREADY CALLED HIM AND CONGRATULATE HIM. GOOD TO SEE YOU AND THE DOG GET THAT POSITION. SO DID YOU SEE THE VIDEO THAT HE PUT OUT TO ALL OF HIS MEN? I SENT IT TO HIM. ANYWAY. IT WAS HIM THANKING, YOU KNOW, AND ANNOUNCING THAT HE WAS. NOW I'M YOUR BOSS. GET IN LINE, YOU KNOW. YEAH, IT WAS GOOD. YEAH, IT WAS A GOOD VIDEO. THAT'S ALL GOOD. ALL RIGHT, WELL, IF WE'RE IF WE'RE ALL DONE, WE'LL
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.