[1. Invocation - Chaplain Norman Desrosiers]
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          EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MARCH 10TH, 2026 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, LET ME REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AND SUBMIT THE COMPLETED FORM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, USE THE MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, OR YOUR NAME AND CITY. BE MINDFUL THE TIMER AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE YOUR SPEAKING TIME ENDS. THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE, A PERSON WITH A LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM OR MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME, AS REASONABLY DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, TO CREATE A RECORD BEFORE THE COUNCIL. ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION. IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND. THE INVOCATION BE GIVEN BY CHAPLAIN NORMAN ROSEN. 
          PLEASE JOIN ME IN A WORD OF PRAYER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH GRATEFUL HEARTS, SEEKING YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE. GRANT US STRENGTH TO FACE EACH DAY WITH COURAGE AND FILL OUR LIVES WITH PEACE AND COMPASSION FOR ONE ANOTHER. WE PRAY TONIGHT FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, OUR CITY MANAGER, AND ALL WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. BE WITH US AS WE GATHER THIS EVENING, BUT MOST ESPECIALLY, WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SET TIME ASIDE TO RECOGNIZE AND PIN ON OUR NEW FIRE CHIEF, SHANE LEACH. FROM THE BEGINNING, WHEN YOU CALLED HIM INTO MINISTRY OF FIRE SERVICE, YOU HAD SET HIM APART FOR THIS MOMENT AND HE LISTENED. WE HAVE NOW COME TO THE FULFILLMENT OF THAT CALLING. WATCH OVER CHIEFLY EACH AS HE GOES FORTH TO LEAD THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE MELBOURNE FIRE DEPARTMENT. MAY HE BE FILLED WITH THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON AND THE PATIENCE OF JOB. WE PRAY FOR LUANNE AND THE FAMILY AS THEY SUPPORT OUR CHIEF IN THE MONTHS TO COME. BLESS THEM DAILY WITH YOUR PRESENCE, SURROUND US AND LEAD US IN ALL WE DO, FOR WE ASK THIS IN YOUR HOLY NAME. AMEN. AMEN. HONOR GUARD. PRESENT THE COLORS. OKAY. RIGHT, LEFT. FACE. PRESENT. OKAY. PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR, GUARD. ORDER! ARMS ABOUT FACE. HONOR GUARD. DETAIL. POST. READY. 
          POSE. READY. FACE. FAR LEFT. LEFT. PLEASE BE SEATED. ROLL CALL. MR. MCEWEN. COUNCILMEMBER. 
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BASSETT. COUNCILMEMBER. HANLEY. COUNCILMEMBER. SMITH. COUNCILMEMBER. LARUSSO. 
          COUNCILMEMBER. NEWMAN. VICE MAYOR. KENNEDY. MAYOR. ALFREY I AM HERE. MOVE ON TO 
          [4. Proclamations and Presentations]
PROCLAMATION. PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATION. I HAVE ONE. FIRE CHIEF. COME ON UP. OKAY, DENNIS. 
          OKAY. TODAY WE ARE HONORED TO CELEBRATE THE PROMOTION OF FIRE CHIEF SHANE LEACH. SHANE BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE MELBOURNE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON DECEMBER 22ND, 1997. OVER THE COURSE OF 28 YEARS, HE HAS PROGRESSED THROUGH THE RANKS, SERVING IN NEARLY EVERY POSITION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. SHANE IS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO THE MORE THAN 150 MEN AND WOMEN HE LEADS, WHO DELIVER THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR GREAT CITY EACH AND EVERY DAY. THROUGH HIS LEADERSHIP, HE CONTINUES TO ENSURE THE MELBOURNE FIRE DEPARTMENT REMAINS AN OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE IN EXCELLENCE IN THE FIRE SERVICE. 
          SHANE WOULD LIKE TO THANK HIS MENTOR, FRANK AVILA, FOR HIS SUPPORT AND LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER. HE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK HIS WIFE OF 25 YEARS, LOUANN, AND HIS CHILDREN, HUNTER AND HANNAH, FOR THEIR UNWAVERING SUPPORT. BEING MARRIED TO THE FIRE SERVICE REQUIRES A UNIQUE AND ONGOING COMMITMENT FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY. OKAY, OKAY. IN THE FIRE SERVICE, THE FIVE BUGLES WORN BY A FIRE CHIEF REPRESENT THE HIGHEST RANK AND AUTHORITY. THEY SYMBOLIZE THE HISTORICAL USE OF BRASS SPEAKING TRUMPETS OR BUGLES, USED TO PROJECT COMMANDS ACROSS THE FIRE GROUND. BEFORE THE USE OF RADIOS. THESE ONE AND TWO. 
          AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE SHANE'S WIFE, LUANNE FORWARD TO PIN HIS BADGE. AND ACTUALLY, THIS FAMILY, THIS DAUGHTERS WANT TO COME UP. OKAY. AND PLEASE STAND UP. YEAH. WHY? WE SWEAR. OKAY. SO. YES, YOU DO HAVE TO RAISE YOUR HAND. SO FOR YOUR OATH OF OFFICE. AND I'M TRYING TO LEAVE THIS IN SHORT BITS, ALTHOUGH YOU PROBABLY COULD REPEAT IT WITHOUT. OKAY, OKAY. SO I STATE YOUR NAME. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR I, SHANE LEACH, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT, PROTECT AND DEFEND THAT WILL SUPPORT, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE. I'M DULY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF FIRE CHIEF, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND PERFORM THE DUTIES OF FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. SO HELP ME GOD TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. SO HELP ME GOD. THERE YOU GO. YOU ARE SWORN IN AND. I'M GOING TO GIVE FIRE CHIEF OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND BEFORE I DO, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HIM AND AND I CAN, I CAN I CAN SAY TRUTHFULLY THAT AS AN O'GALLEY GRADUATE, WE'RE GETTING THE BEST FROM O'GALLEY. SO CONGRATULATIONS. WE ARE. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT SAYING A WHOLE LOT, BUT, MISTER MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR FOR ALWAYS SUPPORTING YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS HERE IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. YOU GUYS TAKE PRIDE IN YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE FEEL THAT OBVIOUSLY TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY, HAVING THE CONFIDENCE TO ME, I APPRECIATE THAT MY FAMILY, ALWAYS THERE FOR ME, COULDN'T DO ANYTHING 
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WITHOUT MY FAMILY, MY STAFF AND TO THE MEN AND WOMEN I'VE ALWAYS WORKED WITH FOR THE LAST THREE DECADES, THIS IS MORE ABOUT YOU THAN IT IS ME. I APPRECIATE IT. SURE, I'LL LET YOU CALL YOUR FAMILY UP FOR A QUICK PICTURE. AND THEN WE'LL DO THE COUNCIL. THANKS. DIRTY SOFTBALL UNIFORM. LET'S GO. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN COUNCIL, IF YOU'LL COME DOWN, PLEASE. AND WE'LL GET A QUICK COUNT. SIR. THANKS. FOR. DOING A FUNNY PICTURE. JUST. 
          ALL RIGHT. OH. GET READY. OKAY. THE TIME NOW IS 642. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND WE'LL RETURN AT SIX. ACTUALLY, VERY MUCH THE SAME LANGUAGE. AND SO THERE WOULD BE 
          [6. City Manager's Report]
SOME OVERLAP THERE. SO I YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW. WE CAN HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION AT PETITIONS AND REMONSTRANCES OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS NOW. BUT I JUST WANTED TO TO PROVIDE THAT ANSWER, THAT CONSOLIDATING THOSE BOARDS WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE A CHARTER AMENDMENT. OKAY. GOOD. I JUST WANTED TO I TALKED TO JENNY ABOUT THIS DURING OUR STAFF MEETING FRIDAY. AND NOT ONLY WERE THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT WE GAVE STAFF DIRECTION ON KIND OF FLOATING OUT THERE, I BELIEVE THERE'S AT LEAST 1 OR 2 MORE BOARD RELATED ITEMS. ONE IS ABOUT WORKING WITH OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD AND SOME OTHER STUFF. AND WE'D COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT PERHAPS BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT, LET'S SAY, 3 TO 4 OR 4 TO 5, I HAVE TO GO WITH JENNY. WE SAID WE'D TALK ABOUT THAT, WHAT THOSE ONES WERE. BUT THE MORE IMPORTANT THING WAS IT'S A IT'S A BUNCH OF ITEMS ABOUT ONE SPECIFIC FUNCTION WITH A SPECIAL MEETING. BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO JUST WORK ON BOARDS AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT WE CAN COME TO A CONCLUSION ON WHAT OUR VISION AS A WHOLE IS ON ALL THESE BOARDS. SO WE WOULD TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE ITEMS AT ONE TIME INSTEAD OF SPORADICALLY THROUGH DIFFERENT MEETINGS. WELL, MAYOR, GO AHEAD. MR. OKAY. THANKS, ADAM. THIS LANGUAGE HAS BEEN IN OUR CHARTER SINCE 1969. THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT IS THE PROS AND CONS OF PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT FOR A REFERENDUM FOR THE CITIZENS? ARE WE BEING PUSHED BY SOME LANGUAGE OUT OF TALLAHASSEE, OR HAVE WE BEEN APPROACHED BY ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOBS CORRECTLY OR WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT BRINGS THIS TO THE TO THE WHAT BUBBLES THIS UP TO THE TOP FOR US THAT YOU BROUGHT IT TO US. MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER NEWMAN HAD HAD NOTICED IN A REVIEW OF THE BOARD ATTENDANCE AND OTHER THINGS. ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WASN'T MEETING PARTICULARLY REGULARLY AND AND SOME OTHER THINGS. AND SO I THINK IN AN EFFORT FOR CONSOLIDATION AND EFFICIENCY, HE SAW IT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT MY MY RECOLLECTION WAS, IS THAT IT WAS AN INITIATIVE BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCIL MEMBER NEWMAN AS A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE ADDITIONAL EFFICIENCIES. BUT NO, SIR, THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS OF STATE LAW OR OTHER THINGS THAT THAT ARE PUSHING THIS OTHER THAN IT WOULD BE THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO PRESENT IT TO THE VOTERS FOR FOR REFERENDUM ITEM. AND IT GETS A LITTLE MUDDY WHEN WE PUT THAT ON THE BALLOT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THING. PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND OR WON'T DO THE RESEARCH BEHIND IT UNLESS WE EDUCATE THEM AS WELL TOO. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH AND 
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SPENDING THE MONEY TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT OR NOT, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT BECAUSE THE OTHER BOARD ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE ARE NOT REFERENDUMS, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO GO TO THE VOTERS TO CHANGE WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS. SO I'M JUST CAUTIOUS. SURE, SURE. I'M JUST CAUTIOUS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WALK THROUGH THIS COLLECTIVELY AND RESPONSIBLY SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, MESS UP ANYTHING. OKAY. OH, SURE. NO, I GET THAT. WELL, WOULD YOU FEEL A SPECIAL MEETING THOUGH ON THOSE OTHER ITEMS WOULD BE WORTH YOUR WHILE? OKAY, I'LL FOLLOW YOUR LEAD. 
          THANK YOU. ADAM, I APPRECIATE IT. WELL, I DON'T MISS HANLEY. THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS DOESN'T MEET ANYTIME REGULARLY. THAT IS BOARD THAT IF THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS. IT'S NOT BOARD. YEAH. TRIGGER FOR ACTION. 
          IT'S. YES. IT'S A THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF PUTTING IT TRIGGER FOR ACTION. SO I WILL LEAVE THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A QUASI JUDICIAL SITUATION THERE. LEAVE THAT ALONE. THE WAY IT'S BEEN GOING ON, IF THEY DON'T MEET DURING THE YEAR, THAT MEANS WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. SURE. 
          SO BUT IF WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM, THEN IT'S A WAY FOR THE CITIZENS TO COME FORWARD. 
          EASIER THAN HAVING TO GO GET THE ATTORNEYS AND EVERYTHING ELSE BEFOREHAND. I WOULD RECOMMEND LEAVING THE WAY IT IS AT THE MOMENT. OKAY, MR. SMITH MAYOR, I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN NEWMAN IS SAYING, THAT A SPECIAL MEETING AND THEN THESE ADDITIONAL POINTS I TO EVEN TO WHAT MISS HANLEY SAYING. YES, I AGREE THAT IT IS A TRIGGER BOARD, BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE A STANDARD PLAN AND THE ZONING BOARD. SO THAT TRIGGER COULD ALSO BE PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD THAT THEY DEAL WITH THAT IF, IF WE IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND WE BUILD IT IN AS A PART OF A CONSIDERATION. WELL, OKAY. WELL, THE WAY THE WAY I'D LIKE TO WORK THIS THEN IS I WOULD HAVE COUNCILMEMBER NEWMAN JUST PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING AND PROBABLY AND IT DOES KIND OF SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. IN JUNE. WE MAYBE WE CAN IF IT'S TOO BIG TO BE A COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM. YOU KNOW, I JUST I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO DO A WHOLE MEETING ON SOMETHING THAT MAY LAST 30 MINUTES, BUT THERE'S THREE OTHER BOARD CONSIDERATIONS. I KNOW I BROUGHT UP THE ONE THING ABOUT THE BOARD, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT WORD STATUS. RIGHT. AND THEN ALSO BROUGHT UP THE THING ABOUT THE CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD. 
          AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YEAH, BUT BUT AGAIN, MY COMMENT WAS IT'S NOT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. MY MY ISSUE WOULD BE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A MEETING AND CALL EVERYBODY IN HERE JUST FOR A TOPIC THAT WE COULD HANDLE WHEN WE HAVE A LIGHTER AGENDA. THE ONLY CAUTIONARY ITEM, IF YOU WANT, WE COULD PULL THIS ONE AS ITS OWN ITEM OUT. IF THAT'S THE PREFERRED METHOD, IS THE FOR THE ITEM WHERE WE CURRENTLY AS A CITY, IF ANYBODY FOR ATTENDANCE REASONS OR REASONS THAT THEY MOVED, I BELIEVE EVEN OR THINGS LIKE THAT ARE REMOVED FROM A BOARD, IT REQUIRES US TO GO THROUGH A HEARING PROCESS AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE BALLOT LANGUAGE AS THOUGH AND SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE, WHENEVER THAT IS DUE. AND I DON'T THAT'S A SUPERVISOR ELECTIONS AND ADAM QUESTION ON THAT. SO THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST BEFOREHAND. AND THE REST COULD BE IN JUNE. OR WE COULD PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER AHEAD OF TIME. THAT'S MORE YOUR CALL ME OR I'LL FOLLOW YOUR LEAD ON THAT. IF YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE THE BIGGER BOARD DISCUSSIONS TO JUNE, THAT ONE JUST HAS A LITTLE A LITTLE TIME STAMP ON IT. YEAH, IT'S TIME SENSITIVE. YEAH, BUT I'VE GOT ONE LEGAL QUESTION. OKAY. NOT TO, YOU KNOW, AND I ASK IT OUR ATTORNEY IS THAT RECENTLY AN APPLICANT CAME TO ME FOR WHO WAS GOING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND ASKING WHETHER OR NOT IF, IF, IF THEY WERE DECLINED, COULD THEY APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL THE SAME AS PLANNING AND ZONING DOES? ANSWER WAS NO. THEY GOT TO GO TO DISTRICT COURT. SO NOW PLANNING AND ZONING, IF THEY GET DENIED, THEY CAN COME AND APPEAL TO US. SO HOW WOULD THAT WORK? I MEAN, COMBINING THOSE TWO, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT PLANNING AND ZONING NOW THEY'RE COMBINED AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT NOW THEY COME TO US. IF IT PASSES THE BALLOT PASSES TO APPEAL A DECISION THAT THAT BOARD COLLECTIVELY HAS MADE. BUT THEORETICALLY, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW BOTH, YOU KNOW, THE CHARTER LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO THE TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THEM TO VOTE ON AS WELL AS THE CODE LANGUAGE THAT THAT ACCOMPANIES THAT. BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S A THERE'S A DISCREPANCY IN THE CHARTER AND THE CODE AS TO HOW CITY COUNCIL IS INVOLVED OR NOT IN DECISIONS OF THOSE QUASI JUDICIAL BOARDS. SO THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE MUDDY FOR ME. YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN TALK THAT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE OR AND I WOULD TELL YOU MORE OF YOUR OPINION, MY, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO REMOVE CITY COUNCIL FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION. 
          OKAY. THAT'S YOURS, BUT NOT MINE. AND THAT'S FAIR, RIGHT? SO YEAH. SO THAT AND IN THAT CASE THAT WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE PER YOUR RECOMMENDATION, MR. 
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CONLEY. AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WE COULD MAYBE TALK ABOUT THE ON THAT. AND THEN THAT GOES TO THE TIME FRAME. RIGHT. BECAUSE IF IF WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM AND THERE'S DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE TWO READINGS OF AN ORDINANCE TO HAVE IT GO ON THE REFERENDUM AND THEN MEET WHATEVER DEADLINES THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS HAS TO PUT THAT ITEM ACTUALLY ON THE ON THE REFERENDUM. RIGHT. IF YOU THINK OF OUR QUALIFYING PERIOD FOR OUR ELECTIONS, THAT QUALIFYING PERIOD IS IN AUGUST. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, EARLY TO MID AUGUST IS PROBABLY AN UNDERLYING DEADLINE TO GET ITEMS TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION TO EVEN HAVE IT ON THE BALLOT. AND SO A JUNE DISCUSSION ITEM INTO JULY ORDINANCES IS JUST THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THE END OF YOUR OF YOUR UNDERLYING TIME GOING TO COST US. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO PUT ITEMS ON ON THE, ON THE ON THE BALLOT MAYOR. OKAY. GO AHEAD. VICE MAYOR, IF WE COMBINE THESE TWO BOARDS, COULD WE DO IT IN A WAY JUST LIKE WE ARE A CITY COUNCIL AND CRA? SO FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM, WE ARE CONVENING AS. SO THEN EVEN IF IT CHANGES THE WAY THEY WORK, THEY'RE SEPARATE BUT EQUAL. OH, I THINK I GOT HIM THINKING, HEY HOLD ON, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM DO THAT IN A WHILE, SO THAT'S A GOOD ONE. HEY, VICE MAYOR, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD QUESTION. 
          IT MAY STILL REQUIRE SOME CHARTER LANGUAGE CHANGES, BECAUSE THERE IS VERY PARTICULAR LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER ABOUT HOW THOSE BOARD MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED, WHAT TERMS THEY SERVE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND SO ANY, ANY SCENARIO WHERE ONE BODY IS SERVING BOTH FUNCTIONS IS PROBABLY GOING TO REQUIRE SOME CHARTER LANGUAGE CHANGE. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD. MISS LAMB. GO AHEAD I AM LOOKING AT OUR WHAT WE CALL OUR ROLLING AGENDA ON WHAT WE KNOW IS COMING UP FOR AGENDAS. AND I KNOW THAT OUR APRIL 20TH 8TH OR MAY 12TH AGENDAS AND EVEN OUR MAY 26TH DO NOT HAVE LIKE VERY MANY ITEMS ON THEM YET OR THAT. WELL, I MEAN THEY'LL ADD UP AS FAR AS LIKE NORMAL ROUTINE THINGS, BUT AS FAR AS DISCUSSION ITEMS GO, WE COULD HIT ANY OF THOSE THREE ITEMS OR THREE MEETINGS. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT IN THERE, THEN WE'LL SCHEDULE OTHER DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY. SO. SO POSSIBLY WHAT WE COULD DO IS, YOU KNOW, DO ONE EARLIER. AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO EXTEND, YOU KNOW, EXTEND IT OUT TO A NEXT MEETING AND MOVE OVER TO THAT THEN SO THEY'D ALL BE ALL AS LONG AS THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER. 
          JUST SO WE'RE ALL THINKING WITH LIKE, OKAY, WE DECIDED THIS FOR THIS ONE AND THIS FOR THAT ONE, AND I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT IDEA. I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AS LONG AS THEY'RE ALL NOT SPLIT UP INITIALLY, INITIALLY. WELL, NOT SPLIT UP. THE FACT IS, IF SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE, WE HAVE AN EXTRA MEETING OR TWO TO TO ADJUST SOMETHING AND BRING IT BACK. SO YEAH. SO GOOD OKAY. SO WE WANT TO WE'LL PUT IT ON THE SOMEWHERE AROUND APRIL MAY MISS LAMB WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC I HAVE ONE MORE THING. OKAY. MY I HAD FORGOTTEN WHEN I HAD SPOKEN BEFORE THAT I AT LEAST WANTED TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. 
          MELBOURNE MAIN STREET EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AMIL CORDOVA IS IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US TONIGHT. IF YOU JUST WANT TO WAVE, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS OUR NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE MAIN STREET. OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. DO WE HAVE A TIME WHEN HE'S GOING TO DO SIMILAR PRESENTATION AS HE DID TO THE DOWNTOWN CRA? IS THAT CRA MAIN STREET, MAIN STREET? UNDERSTAND? BUT HE DID A PRESENTATION AT THAT MEETING, THAT'S ALL. OKAY, I DON'T HAVE A TIME FOR THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS POSSIBLE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST DURING THE REPORT, I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE SOME KUDOS TO STAFF BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT ON SOME STUFF LATELY. ONE, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER AND HER TEAM. I KNOW SHE SHE KNOWS WHO SPECIFICALLY WENT OUT AND DID IT, BUT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES ON ROXY WITH THE ROAD AND THEY WENT OUT AND MADE IT CLEAN, MADE IT NICE. THE WHOLE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN RAVING ABOUT IT, SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE STREETS, STREETS. THANK YOU I WANT I KNEW YOU KNEW SPECIFICALLY ON IT BECAUSE I GOT CORRECTED ON THE NEXT ONE. I'M ABOUT TO SAY HERE, WHICH WAS FOR JENNY, AS WELL AS THE PARKS TEAM AND FACILITIES. THAT'S WHERE I GOT THE EXTRA. SEE, THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN YOU START NAMING STUFF, YOU ALWAYS LEAVE SOMEBODY OUT. 
          BUT JENNY, THE PARKS AND FACILITIES ALSO, IF YOU GO BY, WE HAVE A VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK THAT'S OFF OF HICKORY, OVER BY LIBERTY MUSEUM. THERE WAS REALLY IT WAS IT WAS IN ROUGH SHAPE TO, TO SAY THE LEAST. I MEAN, ONE OF THE MOST APPALLING PIECES WERE FACING THE ROAD WAS GRAFFITIED THE WORD DADDY LOOKING AT ALL WHERE THE KIDS WOULD BE AT THE PARK AND EVERYONE AT THE AUDITORIUM. IT WAS REALLY, REALLY OBSCENE. BUT THAT BEING SAID, THEY PAINTED IT, THEY CLEANED IT UP, AND THEY'RE EVEN HELPING REFURBISH THIS BEAUTIFUL ARCH THAT STANDS AT THE FRONT. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE STAFF AND YOUR TEAM AND EVERYBODY FOR FOR DOING THAT. THAT WAS REALLY THAT WAS REALLY GREAT. IT'S BEEN WELL NEEDED AND I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU DID THAT. OKAY. MISS LANE, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS LAMB? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL 
          [7. Public Comments]
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MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. PUBLIC COMMENT. THEN WE HAVE ONE DAVID CARROLL. MR. CARROLL. 
          DAVID CARROLL 1396 ON DRIVE MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. THANKS, COUNCIL, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT. AS I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE WITH THE SPEEDING, CONTROLLING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TRAFFIC CALMING. I GOT TWO REPORTS. I BELIEVE YOU GUYS GOT ALL COPIES OF THE EMAILS BETWEEN ME AND BENJAMIN SERGEANT SLOVER. I WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING SOON. AND THE CITY HAS ALSO INSTALLED THE TEST STRIPS ON THE ROAD RECENTLY. SO THE 24TH MEETING, I THINK SHE TOLD ME WE ARE ON THE AGENDA TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT. YES, SIR. FOR THE 24TH MEETING. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. BUT I STILL SEE A FACTOR OF SPEED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE CITIES ARE GOING TO BE MORE ACCURATE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT TIME OF DAY THE TRAFFIC. 
          BUT THE FIRST REPORT, WITH ALMOST 5400 CARS BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE TOP SPEED BEING 46 MILES AN HOUR, THAT'S ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT ON A BOULEVARD. AND THEN THE SECOND REPORT. 3500 CARS. AND I BELIEVE THE NUMBER WAS DOWN BECAUSE MY NEIGHBOR WAS HAVING SOME PLUMBING DONE. SO THEIR TRUCKS WERE KIND OF BLOCKING THE SPEED TRAILER. AND WITH ONE CAR BEING OVER 20 MILES AN HOUR, AND I THINK IT WAS AT 59, I DON'T HAVE IT ON THE PAPER, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS AT 59. HE RECORDED IT. AND STILL, I MEAN, DISTRACTION IS A LOT TOO, BECAUSE I SAT IN MY TRUCK, GOT READY TO LEAVE THE OTHER MORNING, AND THE LADY COMING DOWN THE ROAD, CELL PHONE IN HAND, NOT EVEN LOOKING AT THE ROAD. SO I JUST THINK THE SPEED BUMPS WILL WORK, AND MAYBE EVEN THINK ABOUT CLOSING OFF THAT ROAD TO A GALLEY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH. AND AS I AS I SAID, THE NEXT MEETING THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSION. AND IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT EVERYWHERE I GO NOW. AND IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES AKA SPEED BUMPS ARE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD. SO LATER ON WHEN PEOPLE SAY, OH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A PAIN. WELL, NO. HERE'S THE LIST OF MANY, MANY PLACES THAT HAVE THEM. AND I BELIEVE THEY WORK. MY OPINION I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO KEEP COMING. I MEAN, I GOT TO BE THE VOICE OF THE I LIKE IT. COME ON. I LIKE IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. YES, SIR. THANK YOU 
          [14. Resolution No. 4410: (Public Hearing) A resolution authorizing the disposition of real property located at 2265 North Harbor City Boulevard; approving the donation of the property; authorizing the City Manager to execute, accept and record related documents; and authorizing the City Attorney to execute closing documents.]
SIR, THANK YOU. OKAY. NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS ACTUALLY ALSO ON THE AGENDA. I'M GOING TO SLIDE ITEM NUMBER 14 UP 14 FOLLOWED BY 15. SO ITEM NUMBER 14 THIS IS GOING TO BE REPORTING BY PUT ON BY MR. CONLEY. THANK YOU MAYOR I BELIEVE MR. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS BEFORE MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. THEY ALWAYS TAKE THE MICROPHONE AWAY FROM ME WHEN I'M RIGHT HERE. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME, WHAT'S THE POSSIBILITY BRIEFLY, ABOUT BEING ABLE TO DONATE THE DAV BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OVER TO THE DAV? THEY'VE BEEN LEASES THERE SINCE 1963. I SAID SURE, AND THAT IN THAT FRIEND IS A PERSON I'VE KNOWN SINCE 2000. 
          AND HE USED TO SIT NEXT TO ME RIGHT UP THERE. HIS NAME IS LIEUTENANT COLONEL TIM THOMAS, RETIRED. WE STARTED TO DIG INTO IT, ASKED THE CITY MANAGER, ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES OF THIS? SO WE WE DID THE DEEP DIVE. WE FOUND OUT THAT WE CAN DO THAT. 
          AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IT BEFORE, WE HAVE FAILED YOU. AND BY THAT, I MEAN, IS THAT YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO APPLY FOR STATE OR FEDERAL GRANTS. YOU WERE LIMITED BECAUSE YOU WERE CITY PROPERTY. SO I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF. I'M PROUD THAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE. 
          I'M PROUD THAT ALL OF YOU ALL ARE HERE AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY PASS THIS RESOLUTION THIS EVENING AND TURN THE KEYS OVER TO YOU AND YOU CAN DRIVE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW HOW HARD WE'VE WORKED ON THIS. AND I'M SO PROUD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS AS A CITY. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT, MR. CONLEY. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO AGAIN, COUNCIL WILL RECALL BACK IN OCTOBER THIS ITEM FIRST CAME TO COUNCIL AS AN INITIATIVE 
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FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO AND A REQUEST FROM DAV TO CONSIDER DONATING THE SITE AT 2265 NORTH HARBOR CITY BOULEVARD THAT'S CURRENTLY LEASED BY THE DAV LOCAL DAV CHAPTER AND OWNED BY THE CITY. AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL DID APPROVE A WAIVER OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING AND PROCUREMENT PROCESSES FROM THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT MANUAL AND GAVE CITY STAFF DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NECESSARY STEPS IN REVIEWING AND PREPARING THIS RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. THAT TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE WERE EXPECTING. 
          THERE WAS SOME COMPLICATED SURVEYING WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO BECAUSE THE SITE HAS SOME NEARBY STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING A CITY BAFFLE BOX THAT'S INSTALLED RIGHT NEXT TO THE SITE. AND SO WE NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN APPROPRIATE EASEMENT AREA TO FOR THE CITY'S INTEREST TO CONTINUE FOR, FOR THOSE PURPOSES. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO A BIT OF A DELAY ON THE LOCAL DV HAD A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP, AND SO THERE WAS A BIT OF A DELAY IN DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT THEY THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD. THEIR THEIR EXISTING LEADERSHIP HAS DECIDED THAT THEY THEY DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. AND SO I'LL JUST POINT OUT A FEW THINGS FOR YOU IN YOUR CONSIDERATION. FIRST, CITY MANAGER HAD PREVIOUSLY TOLD YOU IN, IN OCTOBER THAT AN APPRAISAL OF THE SITE WAS FOR ABOUT $600,000 BECAUSE THE SITE'S VALUED OVER $100,000. CITY CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT WE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT BECAUSE THE PROPOSED DISPOSITIONS FOR LESS THAN THAT FAIR MARKET VALUE, THAT COUNCIL FIND GOOD CAUSE FOR DISPOSING OF THE PROPERTY FOR LESS THAN THAT FAIR MARKET VALUE. THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION MAKES THOSE FINDINGS IDENTIFYING THE DAVI'S CONTINUING OPERATIONS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS AS MEETING THAT GOOD CAUSE. BASED ON THAT PROPOSAL, THE RESOLUTION ALSO SETS FORTH THAT CONDITION FOR DAV TO PROVIDE US WITH THAT ACCESS AND PUBLIC DRAINAGE EASEMENT AS AS DISCUSSED. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED DEED FROM THE CITY TO DAV INCLUDES SOME LANGUAGE THAT I BORROWED FROM AN EXAMPLE FROM THE CITY OF TITUSVILLE. CITY OF TITUSVILLE HAD BACK IN OCTOBER ALSO DONATED PROPERTY TO THEIR LOCAL DAV CHAPTER. AND IT HAS LANGUAGE HERE, AND IT'S HERE ON THE SCREEN. AND IT'S IT'S ESSENTIALLY A REVERTER. IT'S BASICALLY SAYING THAT DAV NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO USE THE SITE FOR ITS ITS PRIMARY MISSION OF PROVIDING SERVICES TO DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS. AND IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, THOSE THAT STOPS, THEN THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE PROPERTY REVERT BACK TO THEM. SO THERE WAS THERE WAS A CONCERN FROM STAFF IN MY OFFICE OF, YOU KNOW, DONATING THE SITE AND THEN IMMEDIATELY FLIPPING FOR SOME PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, YOU KNOW, CONDOS OR SOMETHING, SO THAT THAT LANGUAGE IN THE PROPOSED DEED WILL PREVENT THAT AND ENSURE THAT DAV CONTINUES WITH WITH THEIR MISSION. WITH THAT AGAIN PUBLIC HEARING, MAKE SURE TO HEAR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE ARE SEVERAL MEMBERS FROM DAV PRESENT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. BUT BASED ON COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS DIRECTION, STAFF IN MY OFFICE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 4410. ALSO, THANK CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE TO TO PULL THIS TOGETHER. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MISS HANLEY? I JUST IT'S BEEN 50 YEARS SINCE YOU GOT THE BUILDING. MY PARENTS WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE IN THOSE IN THE BUILDING. MY FATHER WAS 100% DISABLED. MY MOTHER WAS IN THE AUXILIARY, AND FOR 25 YEARS SHE WAS THE SECRETARY OF THE AUXILIARY. SO THERE WAS TIMES THAT WE HAD I'VE SPENT A LOT OF MY TEENAGE YEARS IN THERE AND USED TO HAVE PARTIES. YOU HAD CHRISTMAS PARTIES, VALENTINE PARTIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I HOPE THIS MOVE I CAN'T BELIEVE FOR IF THEY WERE ALIVE RIGHT NOW, THEY COULD NOT BELIEVE THIS WAS HAPPENING. I KNOW A LOT OF HISTORY, PROBABLY A LOT MORE THAN MOST OF YOU DO, BUT IT WAS MERE MULLINS THAT GAVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS A VETERAN HIMSELF AND THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A SOMETHING THAT WAS NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY, AND HE PUSHED FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE THAT BUILDING AT THE PRICE THAT YOU GOT ONE YEAR, $1 PER YEAR. SO I DON'T KNOW IF MANY OF YOU UNDERSTAND OR KNEW ABOUT THAT, THE HISTORY OF THAT. SO BUT THE MEN AND THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WERE THERE BEFORE YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS GOING FORWARD. CONGRATULATIONS. WELL, WE HAVEN'T VOTED YET, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE. OKAY, I HAVE TO SAY THAT LEGALLY. ALL RIGHT, SIR. MAYOR, MY QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IS HOW LONG IS THAT REVERTER? IS THAT IN PERPETUITY, OR IS THAT IS THERE 
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A TIME FRAME WHEN THAT EXPIRES AS PROPOSED? IT'S IN PERPETUITY. OKAY. BUT AND OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE AT AT THE FUTURE CITY ADMINISTRATION'S DISCRETION ON WHETHER TO EXERCISE IT. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT THE DEED DOES. THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT MAY HAPPEN WITH THE LARGE CONCRETE ORANGE PEOPLE. PEOPLE OFTEN RECOGNIZE THE SITE FOR HAVING THE BIG ORANGE THERE. DAVE DID INDICATE THEIR INTENTION TO PRESERVE AND KEEP THE ORANGE THERE. AND SO THERE'S THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE DEED FOR FOR THEM TO DO THAT AS WELL. I WANT IT I WANT TO SQUEEZE CIVIC CENTER. I ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION, MAYOR. AND THEN I KNOW AT THE LAST WHEN IT FIRST CAME UP, WE TALKED ABOUT THE VALUE. I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE DIDN'T SEND WHAT THE APPRAISED VALUE IS? NOW? AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST FROM OCTOBER. SO I, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD CHANGE MATERIALLY IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS. WHAT WAS IT? IT WAS IT WAS APPROXIMATELY $600,000. OKAY. AND SO AGAIN, RIGHT TO TO PROTECT THE THE CITY'S INTEREST. THAT'S THAT'S WHY THAT REVERTER LANGUAGE IS, IS PROPOSED. OKAY. 
          YEAH. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE DO HAVE AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE TIM THOMAS I'M SORRY. LIEUTENANT COLONEL TIM THOMAS, RETIRED, TIRED. HE LOOKS RETIRED. LOOK. 
          HE'S RELAXED. WELL, FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL AGAIN. YOU ALL HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED OUR VETERANS AND AND HEARING COUNCIL MEMBER NEWMAN TALK ABOUT THE RESTORATION OF THE MONUMENTS YOU'RE DOING OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THE LIBERTY BELL MUSEUM. 
          AGAIN, THAT SPEAKS AGAIN OF OF WHAT YOU ALL DO TO SUPPORT VETERANS AND THE VETERAN COMMUNITY. AND I'M SO PROUD WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF FOLKS FROM THE DAV 32, AS WELL AS FROM MOA HERE. IF YOU ALL STAND UP BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE TO THANK YOU FOR THEIR FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS ENDEAVOR. SO GOOD JOB. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. BUT AGAIN, WE STARTED THIS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A COUPLE YEARS AGO GOING THROUGH COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO. 
          AND ALSO JENNY LAMB HAS JUST BEEN FANTASTIC. AND SO AGAIN WE APPRECIATE SO MUCH. AND THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW FINALLY ALLOW THESE FOLKS TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT BUILDING AND TO TO INCREASE ITS CAPABILITIES. SO AGAIN, WE CAN SERVICE MORE VETERANS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A WIN WIN FOR THE VETERANS AND ALSO FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. BECAUSE REMEMBER THOSE DOLLARS THAT THEY GET FOR THE DISABILITY, THOSE THAT'S TAX. THAT'S TAX FREE. AND THOSE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE SPENT RIGHT BACK HERE IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND MIMI, I APPRECIATE OUR COUNCILMAN HANDLING. I APPRECIATE THE THE HISTORY ABOUT THE DAV BACK WHEN YOUR YOUR PARENTS WERE INVOLVED. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET BACK TO THAT. I SPENT MANY HOURS THERE. YEAH. SO THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE IT OKAY. MAYOR TIM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I KNOW WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS EARLIER AND THEN ALSO ME BEING A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 191, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THESE ORGANIZATIONS NOT ONLY FOR NOT ONLY FOR THE LEGACY AND HISTORY AND THE VETERANS, BUT ALSO SO THAT WAY FUTURE GENERATIONS CAN CONTINUE TO BE MORE PATRIOTIC. AND THEY GOT A PLACE TO TO SEE AND IT BECOMES A BEACON FOR THEM. SO SO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING YOUR SERVICE. AMEN. 
          AND WE'LL START WORKING THOSE CEMETERIES TOGETHER TOO. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, GUYS. ALL RIGHT. AT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER 14. 
          BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR SIR. GO AHEAD. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4410. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE. AND AND AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 
          [15. Ordinance No. 2026-10, Wholeness to Freedom School (First Reading/Public Hearing): Conditional Use request to allow a vocational school in C-R-1A (Single Family Low Density Residential with a Conditional Use to allow a church and school) on a 0.75± acre portion of an overall 3.49± acre property with site plan approval to renovate existing buildings accessory to the church into a vocational school on the overall 3.49± acre property, zoned C-R-1A (Single Family Low Density Residential with a Conditional Use to allow a church and school) and C-1 (Neighborhood Commercial District) located on the south side of Aurora Road, east and west of Ferndale Avenue, west of League Avenue (1619 Ferndale Avenue). (Owner - James Begley, Wholeness to Freedom Ministries, Inc.) (Applicant/Representative - Jake Wise P.E., Construction Engineering Group) (P&Z Board - 2/19/2026)]
NUMBER 15. THIS IS GOING TO BE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH TEN, MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. 
          AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005. DASH 120 BY GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR A SCHOOL ON A 0.75 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE PORTION OF AN OVERALL 3.49 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE PROPERTY ZONED CR1A SINGLE FAMILY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF AURORA ROAD, EAST AND WEST OF FERNDALE AVENUE AND WEST OF LEAGUE AVENUE. 1619 FERNDALE AVENUE, PROVIDING FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. PROVIDING THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE GRANTED HEREIN MAY BE REVOKED BY CITY COUNCIL IF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE NOT MET. PROVIDING THAT THE PROPERTY SHALL BE DESIGNATED ON THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP BY THE SYMBOLS C R1-A, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORT ON THIS AS MISS DITTMER. 
          YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW A SCHOOL IN ACR1 ZONING DISTRICT ON A 0.75 ACRE PORTION OF AN 
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OVERALL 3.49 ACRE PARCEL. ADDITIONALLY, IT'S SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO ALLOW A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL ON THE OVERALL 3.49 ACRE PROPERTY THAT IS ZONED C, R ONE, A, AND C ONE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RURAL ROAD EAST AND WEST OF FERNDALE AVENUE, AND WEST OF LEAGUE AVENUE, AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. WHOLENESS TO FREEDOM MINISTRIES OWNS THE 3.49 ACRE PROPERTY. IT'S LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF FERNDALE, AND WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL ON THE WEST SIDE OF FERNDALE. AS A SECOND PRINCIPLE, USE TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPED CHURCH PROPERTY, BOTH THE CHURCH AND A SCHOOL REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE AND AN R-1A PROPERTY. BACK IN 1973, OUR MELBOURNE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED BOTH A SCHOOL AND A CHURCH ON THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS DEVELOPED PRIOR TO THE SUBDIVISION THAT WAS DEVELOPED JUST TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY. THE CHURCH IS NOW PROPOSING A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL FOR ADULT WOMEN THAT INCLUDES THE CONVERSION OF AN EXISTING THREE STORY BUILDING INTO AN EDUCATIONAL THAT ISN'T AN EDUCATIONAL BUILDING INTO A DORMITORY. THUS, THE CHANGE TO THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR SCHOOL AND THE REQUIREMENT WHY THEY'RE BACK HERE THIS EVENING. THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A FORMAL SITE PLAN THAT DESCRIBES ESSENTIALLY THE THE VARIOUS MODIFICATIONS THAT WILL OCCUR. SO JUST AS WE START ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE, THE MAIN SANCTUARY THAT'S SHOWN IN BLUE AND THEN THE GREEN PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS A TWO STORY BUILDING THAT WILL CONTINUE TO CONTAIN THE FELLOWSHIP HALL ON THE FIRST FLOOR. AND THEN THE CLASSROOMS FOR THE SCHOOL WILL BE LOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR. 
          THERE'S AN EXISTING DAYCARE THERE THAT'S SHOWN IN YELLOW, AND THEN THE RED SQUARE THERE. 
          THAT IS CURRENTLY AN EDUCATIONAL BUILDING, AND THAT WILL BE MODIFIED AND RENOVATED INTO THE THREE STORY DORMITORY BUILDING. ALL THESE BUILDINGS ARE EXISTING. THERE IS NO NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL OCCUR WITH THIS PROPOSAL. THE THREE STORY RENOVATION FOR THE DORMITORY WILL CONSTRUCT 18 DORM ROOMS, ALONG WITH KITCHEN AND DINING FACILITIES, COMMON FACILITIES, COMPUTER LABS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE STRUCTURE. THE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, AS THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, THEY MEET ALL THE SETBACKS ALONG THE FRONT. SETBACKS. HOWEVER, THE WEST SETBACK IS A NON-CONFORMING SETBACK, BUT THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY EXTENSION OF THAT ENCROACHING INTO THAT SETBACK. 
          SO THAT WILL CONTINUE AT THE EXISTING SETBACK OF 14.73FT. AGAIN, THE SETBACK AGAINST THE WEST PROPERTY LINE WHERE THE HOUSES ARE, ARE BUILT CURRENTLY. THE CHURCH ACTUALLY THOSE BUILDINGS WERE CONSTRUCTED AHEAD OF THAT. WE DID WORK WITH THE CHURCH TO REVIEW AN ALTERNATIVE PARKING ANALYSIS TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING. THERE WILL STILL BE THE CONVERSION OF A PAVED PARKING AREA THAT WILL PROVIDE 13 PAVED PARKING SPACES ON THE EAST SIDE OF FERNDALE, FERNDALE AVENUE THERE AND JUST IN SUMMARY STAFF'S REPORTING THIS SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST FOR THE VOCATIONAL SCHOOL WITH THE ACCESSORY DORMITORY. AS THE APPLICANTS HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE COMPONENTS OF A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL AS PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED SCHOOL WILL HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF STUDENTS, IS A LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR, AND IS A REDUCTION IN TRIPS FROM THE PREVIOUS K THROUGH 12 SCHOOL THAT WAS OPERATING ON THIS SITE. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 TEN WITH PLAN 2020 4-0011. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DITTMER? OKAY, NO QUESTIONS FOR MISS DITTMER. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM. MEETING DISCLOSURES. YEAH. DISCLOSURE. SO I MET WITH THE I MET WITH THE NONPROFIT PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO AFTER BREVARD PROSPERITY INITIATIVE MEETING, WENT OVER AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND JUST KIND OF GOT A GENERAL IDEA OF THE SITUATION. SO THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. NO OTHER DISCLOSURES. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A FEW SIGN UP SHEETS. WE'LL START OUT WITH JAKE WISE FOLLOWED BY BEVERLY SQUIRE HIGGINS OR WIGGINS I APOLOGIZE. JAKE, HOW YOU DOING, MAN? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. WE HAVE A LARGE CONTINGENCY, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS TONIGHT. 
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REAL QUICK ON THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU JUST VOTED FOR APPROVAL FOR. IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN HELP DONATE SERVICES FOR, WE HAPPY TO HELP TO DO THAT. SO JUST ON THE RECORD, WELL I PUSH YOU INTO A CORNER. EXACTLY. OKAY. NOW IT'S ON THE RECORD. SO YEAH, THIS IS HOW IT'S BEEN HERE SINCE 1963. IT USED TO BE A SCHOOL. WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE TONIGHT. AS YOU'RE VERY WELL AWARE, WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO GET TO THE ONE YARD LINE HERE TONIGHT. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED. THERE ARE NO NEW BUILDINGS YOU'RE GOING TO DRIVE BY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY ADDITIONS, ANY NEW BUILDINGS. IT IS INTERIOR RENOVATIONS PROVIDING AN INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY NEED. WE'VE DONATED SERVICES OURSELVES FOR THIS PROJECT. WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO BE AT THIS POINT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S 17 FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT. I PROMISE NOT TO GO THROUGH THEM UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT EVERY ONE OF THEM ARE IN SUPPORT. WE HAVE THIS STAFF REPORT AND UNANIMOUS P AND Z AS WELL, ALONG WITH A REALLY GREAT DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. WE HAVE TO BE THE ONLY AGENDA ITEM THAT NIGHT. SO IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT, SUPPORTIVE DISCUSSION FROM YOUR BOARD. THEY WERE ONLY THERE FOR US THAT NIGHT. AND I KNOW YOU CHOOSE THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR P AND Z, SO THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS THAT CAN SPEAK MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN ME ABOUT THE MISSION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, JUST APPRECIATE YOU RESPOND TO THEM. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WISE? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. 
          BEVERLY FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIE STEWART HERE. MA'AM. MA'AM. OVER HERE. MA'AM. OKAY. YOU FORGOT. YOU KNOW THAT. HOW'VE YOU BEEN? IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. SO I'M BEVERLY SQUIRE WIGGINS. I'M ACTUALLY. NOW MANY OF YOU WON'T KNOW THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR THE STILLWATER'S PROGRAM, WHICH SITS UNDERNEATH THE WHOLENESS FREEDOM MINISTRIES PROGRAM. BUT AS I WAS SITTING HERE LISTENING, I WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CHERYL DEAN AND HER TEAM. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TIRELESSLY. I MEAN, THAT TEAM IS SPOT ON. YOU'VE GOT GREAT EMPLOYEES, AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK THEM FOR COMING ALONGSIDE AND WORKING WITH US AND SUPPORTING US THESE LAST. HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT, GUYS? TWO, TWO, THREE YEARS. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN MARCUS SMITH FOR COMING OUT. WE MET AND IT WAS A LAST MINUTE THING AND HE CAME OUT AND MET US. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR PARTNERS BECAUSE WITHOUT OUR PARTNERS SEATER BUDDIES HERE, CHRISTY STEWART FROM LOVING IS HERE. WE WORK WITH THESE MINISTRIES. WE'RE ALL ONE COMMUNITY. AND JUST TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE, BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW I CAN TALK FOREVER, THE THE STILLWATER'S PROGRAM UNDER THE WHOLENESS FREEDOM MINISTRIES IS AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM DESIGNED TO TRANSFORM THE LIVES OF SINGLE WOMEN AND SINGLE MOTHERS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCING EMOTIONAL OR PHYSICAL INSTABILITY. OUR INTENSIVE, CHRIST CENTERED PROGRAM AIMS TO FOSTER GENUINE TRANSFORMATION THAT IS BOTH LIFE CHANGING AND SUSTAINABLE FOR WOMEN SEEKING PERSONAL GROWTH AND LASTING CHANGE. AS A LIFE SCHOOL, OUR GRADUATES GOALS EMPHASIZE STABILITY, HEALTH, HEALING, CAREER DEVELOPMENT, AND FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE. THAT'S TO SUMMARIZE IT, BUT IN REALITY, I'M WORKING ALONGSIDE WOMEN WHO IN IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE REALLY, GENUINELY EXPERIENCED INSTABILITY. AND I AM VERY HUMBLED TO SAY THAT OUR PROGRAM THAT COMBINES BIBLE SCHOOL CLASSES, COUNSELING, LIFE COACH CASE MANAGEMENT, WORKING WITH LOVING TO PROVIDE CLASSES THAT ON FAITH AND FINANCE TO BRING THEM TO A POINT WHERE THEY GRADUATE. WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO GRADUATED LAST YEAR, HAVING BEEN REFERRED TO US BY OUR PARTNER. CIRCLES OF CARE CAME WITH TWO DEGREES, BUT WAS EXPERIENCING MENTAL INSTABILITY. 
          SHE GRADUATED AFTER THREE YEARS IN OUR PROGRAM. SHE HAS A HOUSE, SHE HAS A CAR, SHE HAS A JOB. 
          THAT'S WHAT TRANSFORMATION LOOKS LIKE. SO WE'D LOVE YOU TO COME AND VISIT. I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU, JULIE, ABOUT COMING TO VISIT OUR WONDERFUL CAMPUS THAT COMPLEMENTS THE TED. 
          IS IT WAKEFIELD PARK? WE COMPLIMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PARTNER TOGETHER AND WE MAKE THAT AREA SUSTAINABLE. IT'S VIBRANT. IT'S IT'S JUST A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. SO I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I'M SO EXCITED TO BE AT THIS POINT. AND I'M EXCITED TO HEAR YOUR DECISIONS ABOUT OUR PROGRAM. BUT I'LL LEAVE EVERYTHING ELSE TO EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE OTHERS HAVE THINGS TO SAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW ME. SO BEVERLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY 
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QUESTIONS FOR ME RIGHT NOW, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING. YOU IF I CAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO. YES. BEING AN EDUCATOR. SO I NOTICED THAT IT SAYS THAT YOUR CLASSES ARE 12, NO MORE THAN 12, BUT THERE ARE 27 BEDS. SO DO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE COHORTS GOING OR MULTIPLE CLASSES GOING? SO THE CLASSES ARE OUR SCHEDULE IS ON A TUESDAY. ON SATURDAYS WE HAVE CLASSES. YES. AND SO A CLASS IS TYPICALLY BETWEEN 8 TO 12 WEEKS. 
          AND SO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE WITH A TRADITIONAL EDUCATIONAL VOCATIONAL PROGRAM IS IT'S VERY SET VERY CENTERED. SO ALTHOUGH WE HAVE SEMESTERS WE COULD HAVE A WOMAN THAT COMES IN AND BASED ON HER LIFE EXPERIENCE, SHE'S NOT READY FOR A CLASS. WE HAVE TO STABILIZE THAT PERSON FIRST. 
          I HAVE SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW WHO'S IN A PROGRAM. COME ON. SHE'S BEEN WITH US 30 DAYS NOW. SHE'S ACCESSING CLASSES, BUT SHE'S NOT ACCESSING ACCESSING OTHER PARTS OF THE PROGRAM. SO HOW THEY ACCESS THE CLASSES WILL DEPEND ON WHERE THEY'RE AT EMOTIONALLY, PSYCHOLOGICALLY. 
          BUT TYPICALLY IT'S AN 8 TO 12 WEEK CLASS. AND THEY DO RUN ON A LIKE A SEMESTER BASIS. AND WITH EACH CLASS THERE ARE CREDITS WITH THEM. SO A CLASS CAN BE THREE CREDITS A SEMESTER COULD BE 50, LET'S SAY 5050 CREDITS. BUT HOW IT'S MADE UP OF IS NOT JUST THE CLASS IT'S MADE UP OF. ARE THEY ATTENDING COUNSELING? ARE THEY ACCESSING CHURCH? ARE THEY ATTENDING BIBLE STUDY? ARE THEY ATTENDING THEIR CASE MANAGEMENT CLASS? SO IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE TRADITIONAL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH WHAT WOULD TRADITIONALLY BE STRAIGHTFORWARD EDUCATION. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADULTS WHO MAY HAVE EDUCATION LIKE THIS WOMAN WHO HAD TWO DEGREES, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COUPLING THAT WITH LIFE SKILLS THAT ENABLE THEM TO BE ABLE TO RESTART THEIR LIVES, TO REPOSITION THEMSELVES AND TO FLOURISH AGAIN. SO A CLASS CAN BE CREDITED WITH THREE CREDITS, LET'S SAY FAITH AND FINANCE OR OR TRAUMA OR CHANGE THREE CREDITS. BUT ON TOP OF THAT, THEY'LL GET ADDITIONAL CREDITS FOR ACHIEVING ADDITIONAL GOALS THAT ARE FRAMED AROUND SEVEN GOALS THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR OUR STUDENTS. AND IF I CAN REMEMBER THEM, THEY INCLUDE HEALTH, NUTRITION, EDUCATION, WORK AND CAREER FINANCE, SPIRITUAL. AND ONE MORE I CAN'T REMEMBER IT'S SUSAN, BUT THAT'S HOW WE FRAME IT. SO IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. JULIE. WELL, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE IT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND NOW THAT MY SCHEDULE HAS FREED UP JUST A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE BLOCK FROM WHERE YOU ARE. YEAH, I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING AND I WE'D LOVE TO WE'D LOVE TO WELCOME YOU. THAT INVITATION IS OPEN TO ALL OF YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE THERE ARE THEY ACCREDITED CLASS? I MEAN, ARE THESE ACCREDITED CLASSES OR SO. NO, THAT THAT BESPOKE. AND THEY'RE DESIGNED UNIQUELY BY OUR FOUNDER SUSAN BEGLEY. BUT ALONGSIDE OUR UNIQUE PROGRAM, WE DO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR STUDENTS TO PROGRESS ONTO THE CHESAPEAKE BIBLE SCHOOL. WE ARE ACCREDITED TO OFFER ONLINE CLASSES, OF WHICH WE DO OFFER THAT. SO THE IMAGINE A CLASS IS CALLED CHANGE. A CLASS IS CALLED. IT WAS IT HE SAID SHE SAID, IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? I SAID, YES, YOU HEARD THAT I SAID THIS, YOU HEARD THAT. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ACCREDITING, IT'S ACCREDITED WITHIN OUR FRAMEWORK, WITHIN OUR PROGRAM. 
          SO IT'S NOT ACCREDITED IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE OF BEING LIKE A COLLEGE. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. HAVE I EXPLAINED THAT. WELL YEAH. JUST A HIGH JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION ON THE I WAS REALLY CLOSING IN. I WORK IN THE NONPROFIT INDUSTRY. SO ON THE STABILIZATION PART, HOW LONG WOULD YOU SAY, LIKE IN CERTAIN CASES, LIKE WHAT WOULD BE LIKE THE MAXIMUM THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO STAY FOR STABILIZATION BEFORE THEY COULD START YOUR COURSES? WELL, THE PROGRAM BASED ON THE THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT WE'VE WE SUBMITTED IS INITIALLY TWO YEARS. HOWEVER, I GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THAT A WOMAN WAS REFERRED TO US FROM CIRCLES OF CARE AND IT TOOK THREE YEARS. IT DEPENDS DAVID. SO IT COULD TAKE 3 TO 4 YEARS. SO MAX, MAX, MAX, MAX, MAX. LIKE, WELL, WE'VE ESTIMATED TWO YEARS, BUT 
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
          WORK ON THEMSELVES, GO TO CLASS, GO TO COUNSELING, HAVE CASE MANAGEMENT, HAVE THEIR FINANCES REVIEWED, HAVE THEIR HEALTH DISCUSSED. SO THIS IS NOT A SIT DOWN PROGRAM WHERE THEY COME IN AND THEY CAN SIT DOWN. THEIR SCHEDULE IS FRAMED AROUND TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY THEY ON CAMPUS DOING SOMETHING ACTIVE ACTIVELY. AND SO THE EXPECTATION IS HIGH. BUT WITH THAT, THE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. OKAY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. GO AHEAD MA'AM OKAY. WHO'S GOING TO BE TEACHING THE CLASSES? NO. WHO WHO ARE WE HAVE THE CLASSES ARE RUNNING NOW. AND SO WE HAVE A TEAM OF FIVE TRAUMA TRAINED COUNSELORS ON STAFF RIGHT NOW. 
          ARE THEY THEY HAVE A DEGREE IN IT OR IN THE ACTUAL BUSINESS PLAN OR THEIR QUALIFICATIONS ARE THERE SO THEY ARE CERTIFIED AND LICENSED ACCORDINGLY. SO IN ADDITION TO RUNNING THE BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY OFFER WITHIN THE COMMUNITY A BIBLE COUNSELING SO THE COMMUNITY CAN ACCESS COUNSELING IN INDIVIDUAL MARRIAGE COUNSELING, FAMILY COUNSELING, THOSE COUNSELORS, SOME OF THOSE COUNSELORS RUN THE CLASSES. AND THE FOUNDER, SUSAN BEGLEY AND JIM, THEY'RE BOTH COUNSELORS. AND SUSAN RUNS. SHE HEADS UP OUR CLASSES, THE CLASSES THAT WE RUN. AND ALSO IN ADDITION TO THAT, LOVE INC. WE PARTNER WITH THEM AND THEY OFFER ADDITIONAL CLASSES THROUGH THERE. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, THEIR LIFE CURRICULA PROGRAM. YEAH. AND THE CLASSES WERE ON WEDNESDAY AND SATURDAY MORNINGS, TWO HOURS EACH SESSION. ALRIGHTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. CHRISTY STEWART, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOLLOWED BY BRITTANY HILL. 
          HELLO. HELLO. HOW'S IT GOING? IT'S GOING WELL. GOOD SEEING YOU. HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING TONIGHT? GOOD. GREAT. I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW IS BEFORE YOU ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND I MET THE NEXT DAY WITH THE WITH DONNA. AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR CLIENTS WATER TURNED ON THAT DAY. AND WE HAD AN ISSUE. AND SHE SENT US SERVICEMEN OVER AFTER HOURS. AND SO REALLY IT WAS WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WHOLENESS OF FREEDOM. THEY CREATE LASTING CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE AT LOVE INC ARE GRATEFUL TO OUR PARTNERS. THEY ARE DOING VERY IMPORTANT WORK AND THEIR CLIENTS, AS YOU HEARD, BECOME OUR CLIENTS THROUGH A TRANSFORMATIONAL RELATIONSHIP CENTERED PROGRAM. WOMEN ARE SUPPORTED AS THEY GROW IN STRENGTH, DEVELOP LIFE SKILLS AND EDUCATION, AND MOVE TOWARDS TRUE WHOLENESS AND FREEDOM. FREEDOM. THEIR PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY WILL NOT ONLY TRANSFORM INDIVIDUAL LIVES, BUT WILL ALSO BRING SAFETY, DIGNITY AND RENEWED BEAUTY TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THEY CALL HOME AND LOVING FULLY SUPPORTS THE MISSION OF WHOLENESS TO FREEDOM. 
          I THINK YOU GOT TO SEE A LOT OF HOW WE PARTNER THE CLIENT THAT THEY OR THE LADY THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH, THAT'S BEEN WITH THEM FOR ABOUT A YEAR, IS PART OF OUR WORK PROGRAM PROGRAM AT OUR THRIFT STORES. SO SHE IS WORKING WITH US AND GAINING JOB SKILLS. SO FULLY SUPPORT WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, MISTER MAYOR. WHILE CHRISTY IS HERE, I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK HER FOR THE WORK THAT SHE'S DOING, WORKING WITH US AT THE ASSET MAPPING. AND AS YOU SEE. YEAH, YEAH, SHE'LL BE BACK. SHE'LL BE BACK IN TWO WEEKS TO GIVE US A STATUS BRIEF FOR THAT. BUT AS YOU SEE, WHEN WE HAVE THESE NONPROFITS AND THEY'RE DOING SO MUCH GOOD WORK COLLABORATING TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY WORKING WITH OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS TO TO HELP THEM IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. IT'S HARD WORK AND SOMETIMES IT'S THANKLESS 
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WORK, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT SHE DOES AND THAT ALL OF THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. 
          SO YEAH, AND I HAVE TO I HAVE TO SAY DITTO ALSO. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO AND EVERYTHING THAT SOMETHING GOING ON. YOU'RE THERE. AND LISTEN, YOU'RE YOU'RE SO VALUABLE IN THIS COMMUNITY I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT. 
          ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. BRITTANY HILL FOLLOWED BY THE FAMOUS BUDDY MORROW. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS BRITTANY HILL, AND I SERVE WITH WHOLENESS TO FREEDOM MINISTRIES. WE'RE A LOCAL NONPROFIT HERE IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, AND I'M HERE ACTIVELY SUPPORTING THE STILLWATERS BREVARD SCHOOL TRANSFORMATION PROGRAM. THIS IS A MINISTRY PROGRAM UNDER WHOLENESS TO FREEDOM MINISTRIES, AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPACT THAT I'VE PERSONALLY WITNESSED WHILE I'VE BEEN SERVING WITHIN THIS MINISTRY. A LITTLE BACKGROUND. SO SINCE 2018, OUR CAMPUS HAS SERVED THE MELBOURNE COMMUNITY THROUGH COUNSELING, COMMUNITY FOOD ASSISTANCE, AND MINISTRY PROGRAMS THAT REALLY WALK ALONGSIDE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST EITHER DOWN ON THEIR LUCK IN LIFE, THEY'RE FACING INSTABILITY, AND WE'RE THERE TO WALK ALONGSIDE THEM WITH NO JUDGMENT AND SUPPORT THEM AND MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE. AND THAT'S WHAT THE SCHOOL OF TRANSFORMATION WAS BORN OUT OF. 
          SO, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, THE SCHOOL OF TRANSFORMATION IS A STRUCTURED PROGRAM WHERE WOMEN VOLUNTARILY APPLY AND THEN ENROLL. WE DO NOT ACCEPT EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO APPLIES. OUR STUDENTS MUST BE WILLING AND COMMITTED FOR TRANSFORMATION. JUST AS BEVERLY SHARED, THEY CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COMMIT. WE NEED FULL WILLINGNESS, AND THAT'S THE ONLY TYPE OF STUDENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT. 
          JUST LIKE OTHER VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS OR EVEN JUNIOR COLLEGES, THE STUDENT HOUSING DORMITORY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, AND WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO RENOVATE OUR EXISTING BUILDING INTO, IS REALLY GOING TO HELP BRING THIS IMMERSIVE PROGRAM TO LIFE. IT'S GOING TO ALLOW OUR STUDENTS TO LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WHAT THEY LEARN THROUGH THE EDUCATION THEY RECEIVE, THE MENTORSHIP AND THE VOCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. IT CAN BE PRACTICED CONSISTENTLY IN DAILY LIFE. THEY NEED TO BE ON CAMPUS IN ORDER TO DO THAT. SO THROUGH MY TIME SERVING AT THE MINISTRY, I'VE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE LIFE CHANGING IMPACT THIS PROGRAM CAN HAVE. AS WOMEN EXPERIENCE HEALING, THEY REGAIN STABILITY IN LIFE, AND THEY BEGIN REBUILDING THEIR LIVES WITH RENEWED HOPE AND DIRECTION. AND THAT HAS A DIRECT POSITIVE IMPACT TO OUR OVERALL COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S NOT JUST FOCUSED ON THE INDIVIDUAL. AND SO WHEN THAT TRANSFORMATION TAKES PLACE, WOMEN GAIN THE STABILITY THEY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. FAMILIES ARE STRENGTHENED AND OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS AS A WHOLE. AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT PRIOR TO WHOLENESS TO FREEDOM MINISTRIES ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY, THERE WAS A FAITH BASED K THROUGH 12 SCHOOL THERE. AND THAT HAD A LOT OF HIGH TRAFFIC WITH DAILY DROP OFFS. BUT THE SCHOOL TRANSFORMATION REDUCES THAT SIGNIFICANTLY. AND ALSO BECAUSE THE BUILDING SITS NEXT TO A PUBLIC BASEBALL FIELD AND DOG PARK, BRINGING A PURPOSEFUL AND A WELL-SUPERVISED USE BACK INTO THAT SPACE THAT'S GOING TO HELP KEEP THE WHOLE AREA ACTIVE, CARED FOR AND SAFE, WHICH IS MUCH BETTER THAN A VACANT BUILDING. SO STILLWATER'S BREVARD SCHOOL TRANSFORMATION. IT PROVIDES A PLACE WHERE WOMEN CAN REBUILD THEIR LIVES FROM THE INSIDE OUT. AND THEN WHEN LIVES ARE REBUILT, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS STRENGTHENED. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION, AND THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THEIR THOUGHTFUL REVIEW. THANK YOU. AND BUDDY MORROW. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. AND I KNOW WHEN I'M HERE BEFORE YOU, I'M ALWAYS ASKING FOR SOMETHING. AND TONIGHT I COME BEFORE YOU WITH A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM THAT WE, EACH AND EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT KNOW THAT WE HAVE DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND THOSE THAT ARE ABOUT TO STEP OFF INTO HOMELESSNESS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE FEDERAL, EVEN OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING TOWARD FUNDING HARDER AND STRONGER OR PROGRAMS THAT HAVE THE IN HOUSE PROGRAMS, HOUSING THAT HAS THE IN-HOUSE PROGRAMS TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEMS THERE AND LONG TERM IS IS WHAT GIVES GREAT RESULTS. 
          BUT TONIGHT, I'LL BE BRIEF. I'LL JUST ASK YOU TO TRULY CONSIDER THIS. I'M ASKING TONIGHT, AND I'M ASKING FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE HELEN'S HOUSE OVER OFF RURAL ROAD, CLOSE TO HIM. WE PARTNER WITH THEM. CHRISTINE, JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY HERE. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND LOOK AT A MOM WITH A CHILD OR A SINGLE LADY THERE AND HAVE TO TELL HER WE'RE SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR YOU, AND THEY HAVE TO GO BACK OUT ON THE STREETS. IT BREAKS YOUR HEART. MY WIFE AND I LAY AWAKE IN BED SOMETIMES AT NIGHT, AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE WOMEN THAT WE'VE HAD TO TURN AWAY, AND IT TRULY DOES BREAK YOUR HEART. AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU TONIGHT, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, TO TRULY 
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CONSIDER PASSING THIS AND ALLOW THEM TO BEGIN TO OPERATE, BECAUSE THIS IS A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT, MAYOR. GO AHEAD SIR. I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. MR. MORROW. MORROW. SORRY. FIRST OF ALL, LOVE THE WORK YOU DO. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE TOUR YOU GAVE ME OF YOUR FACILITY. GOSH, IT'S BEEN ABOUT THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS AGO. SO I WANTED TO ASK YOU BECAUSE YOU KIND OF PIECED TOGETHER WHAT I WAS THINKING AS I LISTENED TO ALL THE FOLKS THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. THIS. HOW DOES THIS PROGRAM DIFFER FROM YOUR PROGRAM? BECAUSE IT SEEMS VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE. IS IT JUST ANOTHER EXTENSION KIND OF TO HELP THE COMMUNITY? I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD HAD A THOUGHT ON THAT. IT'S VERY SIMILAR. SOME OF THE SOME OF OUR CLASSES ARE TAUGHT, I THINK ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR, OUR LADIES RIGHT NOW ARE IN COLLEGE AT EASTERN STATE COLLEGE. OR EITHER THERE'S ONE THAT'S IN A BARBER COLLEGE. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT'S THE STATE OR NOT. WE WE DO TRY TO GET OUR, OUR WOMEN EDUCATION TO WHERE THEY CAN GET A HIGHER PAYING JOB INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO OUT THERE AND START AT MINIMUM WAGE OR CLOSE TO MINIMUM WAGE. BUT WE DO HAVE OUR IN-HOUSE PROGRAMS FOR OUR COUNSELING, OUR MENTAL HEALTH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OTHER PROGRAMS IN THERE. THERE'S WITH VOCATIONAL TRAINING, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, EVEN THOUGH WE USE OUR THRIFT STORES AND OUR OFFICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO DO TRAINING. OKAY. AND WAS YOURS IS YOURS CLASSIFIED AS A SCHOOL AT THE DORMITORY OR IS IT A DIFFERENT. I WASN'T AROUND WHEN YOU GUYS GOT EVERYTHING SET UP FOR YOURS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. WE'RE CLASSIFIED AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER. OUR WOMEN COME IN AND HAVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN OUR LIFE. PERFECT. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THAT THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ITEM NUMBER 15. MAYOR. GO AHEAD. MA'AM. 
          APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2026, DASH TEN WITH THE PLANNING AND PLANNING 2020 4-0011. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU BRIAN, AND. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BACK TO ITEM EIGHT AND 
          [8. Ordinance No. 2026-05 (AV2025-0005): (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance to abandon and vacate a 30-foot-wide street right-of-way and a 15-foot-wide alleyway right-of-way at 2528 S. Harbor City Boulevard. (First Reading - 2/24/2026)]
TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 605. MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A 30 FOOT WIDE STREET RIGHT OF WAY THAT RUNS EAST TO WEST ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE AND A 15 FOOT WIDE ALLEYWAY RIGHT OF WAY THAT RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH, DIVIDING THE PROPERTY, BOTH LOCATED AT 2528 SOUTH HARBOR CITY BOULEVARD, MAKING FINDINGS PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORTING ON THIS IS MR. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. THIS IS THE SECOND READING FOR THIS ITEM. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. NF? OKAY. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM. DISCLOSURES I NO, NO DISCLOSURES. PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE NO SIGN UP SHEET. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR. GOOD, SIR. RECOMMEND ACTION. APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 605. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MR. NEWMAN. ROLL CALL. VOTE FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER. BASSETT. 
          COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER. SMITH. COUNCILMEMBER LARUSSO. COUNCILMEMBER. NEWMAN. VICE 
          [9. Ordinance No. 2026-06, Ordinance No. 2026-07, and Ordinance No. 2026-08, Aloha Pet-Bird Hospital: (Second Reading/Public Hearing) Ordinances providing for Annexation, Comprehensive Plan Amendment, and Zoning designation on a 0.28± acre subject property, located at the northeast corner of East Eau Gallie Boulevard and San Juan Drive. (Owner/Applicant - Aloha Real Estate Holdings, LLC/Manuel J. Pepen) (Representative - Frank Plata, P.E., Plata Engineering, Inc.) (P&Z Board - 2/5/2026) (First Reading - 2/24/2026)]
MAYOR. KENNEDY. MAYOR. ALFRED, I VOTE AYE. THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. 
          YOU READ ALL THREE, MISTER. YES, SIR. FIRST ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 606, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF 0.28 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD AND SAN JUAN DRIVE. 948 EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD, PROVIDING FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE CORPORATE LIMITS AND BOUNDARIES THEREOF, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 607. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING APPENDIX D, CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE. AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY MAP CLASSIFICATION. I'M SORRY BY ESTABLISHING A GENERAL COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP CLASSIFICATION ON 0.28 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD AND SAN JUAN DRIVE. 948 EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE TOGETHER WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 608. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005, DASH 120 BY ESTABLISHING C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING ON 0.28 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST VALLEY BOULEVARD AND SAN JUAN 
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DRIVE, 948 EAST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. OKAY. THANK YOU. REPORTING ON THIS, MISS CINDY DIMMER. YES. I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON SECOND READING. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR MISS DITTMER? OKAY. 
          THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM. ANY DISCLOSURES? I NO, NO DISCLOSURES. THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT NO SIGN UP SHEETS. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK. COUNCIL. MAYOR. MISTER LARUSSO, THANK YOU. I AM ENCOURAGED BY THE FUTURE GROWTH, THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF ALOHA, AND WE'VE BEEN BY YOUR SIDE FOR MANY YEARS. AND SO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING YOUR BELIEF IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. SO MY FIRST ONE IS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 606. 
          BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MR. SMITH ON A ROLL CALL VOTE ON A COUNCILMEMBER. 
          COUNCILMEMBER, COUNCILMEMBER SMITH. COUNCILMEMBER LARUSSO. COUNCILMEMBER NEWMAN. VICE MAYOR. KENNEDY. MAYOR ALFRED. MOTION PASSES. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR B. YES. APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 607. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION AND MOTION SECOND. ROLL CALL. VOTE. 
          COUNCILMEMBER. BASSETT. COUNCILMEMBER. HANLEY. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER. 
          LARUSSO. COUNCILMEMBER. NEWMAN. VICE MAYOR KENNEDY. MAYOR ALFREY AND I VOTE THAT MOTION PASSES AND C FINALLY, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 608 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE ZONING AND ZONING AND PLANNING, PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. 
          I'M SO EXCITED. AND I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ROLL CALL. VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER. 
          BASSETT. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER. LARUSSO. COUNCILMEMBER. NEWMAN. 
          VICE MAYOR. KENNEDY. MAYOR ALFRED I. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT ONE. DONE. 
          [10. Ordinance No. 2026-09: (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance amending Sections 2-29, 2-572 and 2-581 of the Melbourne City Code; amending the engineering and construction contract threshold for City Council approval and increasing the purchasing award threshold for the City Manager to $100,000. (Requested by City Council - 1/13/2026) (First Reading - 2/24/2026)]
OKAY. MOVING ON TO 20. ITEM NUMBER TEN, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 609, MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION AMENDING SECTION TWO, DASH 29, ORDER OF BUSINESS. AMENDING SECTION TWO 572 JURISDICTION ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACTS. AMENDING SECTION TWO 581 PURCHASING AWARD THRESHOLDS. 
          PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORT ON THIS AND MISS LAMB. NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON SECOND READING OKAY OKAY. ANY QUESTION FOR MISS LAMB? NO, MA'AM. NOPE. THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING, NO SIGN UP SHEET. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR. 
          GOOD, SIR. YES. APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 609. AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE'LL DO A QUICK ROLL CALL. VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER. BASSETT. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER. 
          SMITH. COUNCILMEMBER LARUSSO. COUNCILMEMBER. NEWMAN. VICE MAYOR. KENNEDY. MAYOR ALFRED I 
          [11. Task Order No. KH-C-2025-002 to the Continuing Contract for Professional Engineering Services for Holmes Park Public Plaza Space, Project No. 13026, Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc., Melbourne, FL - $299,048.]
VOTE AYE. MOTION PASSES. MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11. REPORT ON THIS IS MR. ERNEST. WE ARE MOVING ALONG THERE. AND PUT ON THE BRAKES. KEEP IT GOING. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL AGAIN. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 11. THIS IS FOR A PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES TASK ORDER WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, FOR THE HOLMES PARK PUBLIC HOLMES PARK PUBLIC PLAZA SPACE. ON MAY 13TH, 2025, MELBOURNE MAIN STREET PRESENTED A CONCEPTUAL VISION TO CITY COUNCIL TO REDEFINE HOLMES PARK INTO A PUBLIC GATHERING SPACE. THE CONCEPTUAL VISION INCLUDED A TERRACED AMPHITHEATER, FAMILY PLAY ZONE, EVENT AREA, PREFABRICATED RESTROOM BUILDING, REMOVABLE BOLLARDS FOR MELBOURNE COURT AND HENLEY COURT TO FACILITATE A FESTIVAL AREA, LANDSCAPING, HARDSCAPING AND PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING NATURE TREES WITHIN THE PARK. THE NEW POEMS PARK PUBLIC PLAZA SPACE PROJECT WAS BUDGETED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AS A RESULT, THE SCOPE OF SERVICES IN THIS TASK ORDER INCLUDES PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DESIGN FOR HOLMES PARK, INCLUDING SURVEYING, GEOTECH FOUNDATION, ELECTRICAL AND LIGHTING DESIGN BASED ON THE CONCEPT VISION, THE PARK WILL INCLUDE AN UNDERGROUND STORMWATER CHAMBER SYSTEM TO MEET THE LATEST ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS FOR STORMWATER TREATMENT. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO DO AN ABOVE GROUND POND. ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL BE INCLUDING THE DESIGN OR AT LEAST THE FOOTPRINT FOR A BAFFLE BOX IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PARK TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE WORK UNDER THE DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE STREETSCAPE PROJECT. IT'S BASICALLY TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE SOURCE OF TREATMENT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TRY TO PUT IN A RETENTION POND FOR THAT PROJECT. THERE WILL BE ONE PUBLIC WORKSHOP HELD DURING THE DESIGN PHASE, WITH THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD MEETING PRESENT AT THE 30% PHASE. THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION TO REPORT ON THE FINDINGS. THE SERVICES RENDERED UNDER THIS TASK ORDER SHALL BE COMPLETED WITHIN 275 CALENDAR DAYS. FROM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED, WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER K 2025 002 TO KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA FOR THE PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES FOR HOLMES PARK PUBLIC 
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PLAZA SPACE PROJECT NUMBER 13026, IN THE AMOUNT OF 299,000 ZERO, $299,048 AND FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT. IN THE PROJECT BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS TURNER? QUESTIONS, SIR. SO JUST READING THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEM. SO JUST WANT TO JUST BE CLEAR ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO WHAT IS A REASONABLE EXPECTATION? I SEE THE TIME FRAME 275 DAYS. AND WHAT ARE SOME OTHER REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS FROM THIS PARTICULAR TASK ORDER. SO THAT WOULD BE FULL DESIGN COMPLETION WITHIN 275 DAYS. THERE IS SOME TIME THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE FOR THE PERMITTING. THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THE MOST CHALLENGING PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE APPROPRIATE PERMITTING TO GET THE WORK DONE. WE ARE GOING WITH AN ALTERNATIVE TREATMENT PLAN FOR THE STORMWATER, WHICH IS THE UNDERGROUND TANKS. SO I'M NOT ANTICIPATING A LARGE AMOUNT OF PUSHBACK FROM ANY OF THE PERMITTING AGENCIES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT IT STILL DOES TAKE SOME TIME IN ORDER TO GET THOSE COMPLETIONS. ADDITIONALLY, THE OUTFALL FOR THIS IS DIRECTLY TO CRANE CREEK, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER ASPECT THAT MAY CAUSE THE PERMITTING TO BE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER THAN A CONVENTIONAL PROJECT. OKAY, OKAY. GOOD SIR. AND THEN JUST JUST SUPER QUICK CONFIRMING SOMETHING. I SEE THERE WAS A BATHROOM OUT HERE, A RESTROOM FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          THAT'S THE SAME ONE THAT'S WITHIN THE CRA. SO THIS IS COMBINING BASICALLY THOSE TWO ITEMS. YES, SIR. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE PARK. DO NOT GET ME WRONG ON THAT. BUT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN TALLAHASSEE ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE, THAT SCARES ME TO MOVE FORWARD ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY THIS PARK WILL COST US AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET IF WE KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE PROPERTY TAXES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I'M ALMOST ASKING IF WE POSTPONE THIS TILL AFTER. I MEAN, WE CAN SPEND THIS 300. BASICALLY, IT'S $300,000 TO DO THE DESIGN AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. THAT'S WHAT SCARES ME ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROJECT. OKAY, MISS. I'M SORRY, MISS LANE. IN OUR LATER COUNCIL ITEM ABOUT THE DISCUSSION OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE STREETSCAPE, WE DO GO INTO SOME MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, SITUATION GOING BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE CRA SUNSETS. AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT I THINK IN ROSS CAN NOD. I THINK THAT THE DOWNTOWN CRA IS A LITTLE MORE INSULATED FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES. I THINK IT'S ABOUT 7%. OKAY, GOT THE THUMBS UP, 7% OF THE OVERALL MAKEUP. AND SO IT IT IS. IT IS A CONCERN, DON'T GET ME WRONG. BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. AND SO WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE REST OF THE HEALTH OF THE CRA UNDER THAT DISCUSSION ITEM OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE. I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE I LIKE THE THE PARK. DO NOT GET ME WRONG WITH IT, BUT I WANT THE MONEY THERE TO MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, LIKE IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN THAT AND I LOOKED AT IT LOOKS VERY NICE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE MONEY THERE AND THEN IT JUST IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE FOR TEN, TEN YEARS. SO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BECAUSE THINGS WILL ALWAYS CHANGE AND COME BACK IN TEN YEARS AND HAVE TO DO A REDESIGN AGAIN. THAT'S THAT'S MY, MY FEAR THERE. IN THOSE SITUATIONS, I'M LOOKING AT THE MONEY. THANK YOU MAYOR. GO AHEAD. SIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER K, DASH C DASH 2025 002 TO KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC. MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. FOR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES FOR HOLMES PARK PUBLIC PLAZA SPACE PROJECT NUMBER 13026, IN THE AMOUNT OF $299,048. SECOND, HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE. THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          [12. CONSENT AGENDA:]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12, THE CONSENT AGENDA. NOTHING WAS PULLED. ITEM A THROUGH E, DO WE HAVE A MOTION, MAYOR? GOOD. MAYOR. APPROVAL. APPROVAL FOR CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH E. 
          SECOND, A MOTION SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? VOTE ON THAT. 
          [16. Ordinance No. 2026-11, Capital Improvements Element: (First Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance amending Chapter X of the Melbourne Comprehensive Plan entitled "Capital Improvements Element" to reflect the annual update of the Capital Improvements Schedule. (Applicant - City of Melbourne)]
MOTION PASSES. 13. NOTHING WAS PULLED. 14 AND 15 WERE DONE. WE'RE MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER 16, REPORTING ON THIS IS MISS CINDY DITTMAR BOARD. ACTUALLY. GOOD. MR. CONNELLY, 20 2611. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 11, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING APPENDIX D, CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04 OF THE CITY CODE. AMENDING CHAPTER TEN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENTITLED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT TO REFLECT THE ANNUAL 
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UPDATE TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. 
          REPORT ON THIS, MISS DITTMAR. YES. SO THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT, THE CITY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO UPDATE THE ELEMENTS FIVE YEAR SCHEDULE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS REQUIRED ANNUALLY BY FLORIDA STATUTES. SO ABOUT THIS TIME EVERY YEAR YOU GUYS SEE US HERE DOING THIS. 
          THE SEA IS A REQUIRED COMPONENT OF OUR CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO WE HAVE TO KEEP IT UP TO DATE. EACH YEAR. THE SEE, THOSE PROJECTS IN HERE ARE NECESSARY TO LIST OUT TO MAINTAIN OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS, AS OUTLINED IN THE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PROJECTS INCLUDED IN HERE ARE ALL ALREADY EXISTING PROJECTS. MOST OF THEM COME FROM YOUR CURRENT FIVE YEAR ADOPTED CIP, YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, ALONG WITH THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN AND THE SPACE COAST TPO'S PLAN OF ROADWAY PROJECTS AND WHATNOT. SO THERE'S NOT ANY NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED BY THIS. AND SO WITH THAT, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026, DASH 11, BASED ON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE STAFF MEMORANDUM. THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DITTMAR? OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THERE'S NO SIGN UP SHEET. 
          CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. GO BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR. MR. NEWMAN, MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026, DASH 11. BASED ON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED WITHIN THE STAFF MEMORANDUM. SECOND, AND WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? 
          [17. Ordinance No. 2026-12 (AV 406): (First Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance to abandon and vacate a 50-foot-wide portion of Terrence Avenue right-of-way along the south side of the Charles Drive right-of-way.]
I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17. ORDINANCE 20. 
          ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT AN ORDER. GO AHEAD. MR. AND IT IS AN ORDINANCE. I APOLOGIZE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 2612, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A 50 FOOT WIDE, UNIMPROVED PORTION OF THE TERRACE AVENUE. I'M SORRY, TERRANCE AVENUE. RIGHT OF WAY. AS CREATED BY THE ALMAR SUBDIVISION SECTION B PLAT BETWEEN LOT ONE, BLOCK T AND LOT TWO, BLOCK U OF SAID PLAT LOCATED AT 101 CHARLES DRIVE. MAKING FINDINGS PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORTING ON THIS. MR. ALL RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO ABANDON AND VACATE A 50 FOOT WIDE PORTION OF TERRACE AVENUE. THE APPLICANT, WILLIAM SCHNATZ, REQUESTED THE VACATION OF THE 50 FOOT WIDE, UNIMPROVED PORTION OF THE TERRACE AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY AS CREATED BY THE SUBDIVISION SECTION B, PLAT, LOT ONE, BLOCK T AND LOT TWO, BLOCK U OF SAID PLAT. THE APPLICANT IS THE OWNER OF LOT ONE, BLOCK T, AND SUBMITTED THE REQUEST TO VACATE THAT PORTION OF TERRANCE AVENUE IN JULY OF 2019. IN 2019, THE CITY RECEIVED OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST FROM MULTIPLE UTILITIES SPECTRUM, BOTH INCLUDING OUR UTILITIES AND THE STREETS AND STORMWATER DIVISION, DUE TO UTILITIES THAT WERE EXISTING WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR. THE REQUEST ALSO RECEIVED AN OBJECTION FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER THAT ABUTS THE VACATE AREA. THAT PROPERTY OWNER OBJECTED DUE TO THEIR PRIVATE SEWER LOCATED IN THE VACATED AREA, AND BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THEY WOULD GAIN ANY VALUE BY OBTAINING A PORTION OF THE VACATED RIGHT OF WAY DUE TO THE UTILITIES AND THE PRIVATE SEWER LINE IN THE VACATED AREA. WE DID. WE WOULD REQUIRED OR RECOMMENDED AN EASEMENT BE GRANTED TO PRESERVE THE RIGHTS OF THOSE UTILITIES TO BE IN THAT AREA AND ALLOW FOR MAINTENANCE ACCESS TO STILL OCCUR. THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER ALSO INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE WILLING TO GRANT AN EASEMENT OVER THAT PROPERTY. 
          IF IT WAS TO BE VACATED, THE APPLICANT HAD INDICATED THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GRANT A GRANT AN EASEMENT OVER THEIR PORTION. BUT BECAUSE WE DID NOT RECEIVE A GUARANTEE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A EASEMENT GRANTED OVER THE FULL FOOTPRINT, STAFF CANNOT RECOMMEND THAT A ABANDONED AND VACATE BE PROVIDED OVER THIS PARTICULAR RIGHT OF WAY. THE AGENDA MATERIALS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE ABANDONED VACATE REQUEST, ALONG WITH THE SKETCH AND DESCRIPTIONS AND LEGALS, BUT THE AREA THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED IS WHAT IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THE OVERHEAD EXHIBIT. SO. WE ARE REQUESTING A LITTLE BIT OF DENIAL OF ABANDONED AND VACATE REQUEST AVE NUMBER 406 AND DENIAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 12. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS TURNER? AND I'LL JUST PIGGYBACK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          RIGHT. THERE ARE REVIEW CRITERIA IN CODE FOR CONSIDERING ABANDONED AND VACATE. AND SO EFFECTIVELY WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO TO MAKE A MAKE A FINDING THAT THIS 
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PARTICULAR APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET THOSE CRITERIA, PARTICULARLY THE FACT THAT THERE ARE UTILITIES WITHIN THE AREA THAT THAT WOULD WOULD BE IMPACTED BY AN ABANDONED VACATE OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY AREA. SO, SO AFTER IF WE APPROVE THIS DENIAL, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP FROM THIS POINT, I BELIEVE THAT THE NEXT STEP IS THEY COULD REQUEST AN A AND B, BUT NOW THE YOU KNOW, THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN CLEARLY COMMUNICATED THAT WE NEED AN EASEMENT OVER THE ENTIRE AREA TO PRESERVE THE RIGHTS OF THE EXISTING UTILITIES. AND THAT'S REALLY THE THE SPEED HUMP, SO TO SAY, TO GET OVER IN ORDER FOR THIS A AND B TO BE SUCCESSFULLY CONSIDERED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM. MEETING DISCLOSURES I NOTE NO DISCLOSURES. THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE A SIGN UP SHEET. 
          CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR. GOOD SIR. DENIAL OF A OF ABANDONED AND VACATE. REQUEST AB NUMBER 406 AND DENIAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 2612. BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS LAID OUT FOR US, IN CASE OF ANY REPERCUSSIONS. YEAH, EFFECTIVELY A FINDING THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT DOESN'T MEET THE REVIEW CRITERIA SET FORTH IN CODE. I, YOU KNOW, DENIAL AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF GRAY AREAS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THAT BACKUP. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND I SECOND MAYOR WAIT I JUST SAID IT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND YOU SECOND THAT SECONDED THE MOTION. 
          DIDN'T I MAKE THE DIDN'T I MAKE THE MOTION. YES YOU DID. YEAH. OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO. NO, HE'S JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO SECOND. I'M TRYING TO SUPPORT YOU. YOU ARE TRYING TO HIJACK. NO. IT LATE FOR YOU, ISN'T IT? YEAH. NO, SORRY. OKAY. WE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE I AND NET DENIAL PASSES. SO MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18. 
          [18. Ordinance No. 2026-13, Beautification and Energy Efficiency Board: (First Reading) An ordinance ​providing for the dissolution of the Beautification and Energy Efficiency Board.]
REPORT. NOT ACTUALLY MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU. MAYOR, THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 2613, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE DISSOLUTION OF THE BEAUTIFICATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD, MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION AMENDING ARTICLE FOUR BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND AUTHORITIES. REPEALING DIVISION THREE, ENTITLED BEAUTIFICATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD PROVIDING FOR INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION. OKAY. REPORT ON THIS IS MR. MCEWEN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL IS FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING. YOU HAD DIRECTED STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE FOR THE DISSOLUTION OF THE BOARD. ADDITIONALLY, COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT THE BOARD BE INVITED TO ATTEND THE MEETING. THAT INVITE DID GO OUT. AS YOU READ IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME RESIGNATIONS FROM THE BOARD, SO THE REMAINING MEMBERS WERE INVITED TO ATTEND, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE THAT HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          BUT THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 13 OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE DO HAVE ONE SIGN UP SHEET NICHOLAS FANZONE. BROUGHT UP HERE. THANK YOU SIR. 
          HOW YOU DOING THIS EVENING. VERY WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD, GOOD. ALL RIGHT MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. YOU RUN A VERY NICE MEETING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE BEAD BOARD. IT'S A GREAT IDEA. YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK WITH IT. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THAT BOARD ARE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT AND CAPABLE AND HAVE SAVED YOU A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT INSTANCES. ONE OF THEM, I BELIEVE, IS THE NEW POLICE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. SOME OF THOSE COST SAVING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD FOR THOSE BUILDING ENVELOPE TYPE OF THINGS OR WE'RE ACHIEVED THERE. NOW THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE BY A BEEB, BUT IT WAS LIMITED AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, AS A NEWER MEMBER, AS I'VE COME ON BOARD BASED OFF OF HOW WE GET OUR POWER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY REDUCE YOUR POWER SO MUCH AND HOW YOU GET THAT POWER NOW. BEAUTIFICATION, ENERGY AND EFFICIENCY. WHEN I JOINED THE BOARD, THE SCOPE OF IT, I THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE BIT WIDER. SO MY RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS A CITIZEN AND MEMBER OF THE BOARD IS TO RETHINK THE SCOPE OF IT BEFORE DISSOLVING IT. IF THERE WAS THE ABILITY TO RETHINK WHAT BEAUTIFICATION, ENERGY AND EFFICIENCY COULD MEAN, MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE BOARD BY EXPANDING ITS SCOPE TO ALLOW FOR DIFFERENT WAYS TO ACHIEVE ITS GOALS, SUCH AS IF YOU WANTED TO REDUCE THE ENERGY ON A BUILDING, YOU COULD LOOK AT BUILDING ENVELOPE AND IF THERE'S ANY LEAKS AND FIX THOSE WHICH YOU'VE DONE IN A LOT OF YOUR FACILITIES. BUT YOU COULD ALSO PLANT A TALL TREE THAT WOULD SHADE IT DURING THE SUMMER, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE ENERGY IN THE BUILDING. SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE BEAUTIFUL AND ENERGY EFFICIENT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE NOW? THEY'VE DONE A LOT WITH YOUR FLEET, AND AS YOUR FLEET 
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CHANGES OVER TIME, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THEM AGAIN. BUT UNTIL THOSE TIMES COME WHEN THEY MIGHT BE LOOKED ON FOR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BOARD AND ITS DUTIES AT THIS TIME SEEMS TO BE LIMITED. AND ALBEIT IT SOMETIMES MAYBE EVEN FRUSTRATED WITH THE LIMITATIONS OF THEIR SCOPE. AND THEY'VE DONE A LOT. BUT I THINK THAT THEY COULD DO MORE IF THE BOARD WAS ADJUSTED TO REFLECT A DIFFERENT SCOPE THROUGH DISCUSSION WITH STAFF, AND MAYBE THE BOARD ITSELF. 
          THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. I'M NEW TO THE BOARD, BUT I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF SAVING ENERGY AND SAVING MONEY IS A GOOD THING. AND IF YOU COULD DO SOMETHING THAT BEAUTIFIES OUR TOWN WHILE DOING IT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? MAKES SENSE. YEAH. GO AHEAD. YEAH. WELL. HEY, NICK, GOOD TO SEE YOU. I HAVEN'T SEEN I THINK IT WAS GOSH, THERE WAS ONE OF THOSE EVENTS OVER ON BEACHSIDE. I BUMPED INTO YOU, OCEAN REEF BEACH, I THINK. YES, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY. SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE WAS THAT WE GOT A LETTER FROM THE BOARD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ON AT THAT TIME, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU ARE, BUT WHEN WE GOT THIS LETTER WAS WE NEED TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO, AND IF NOT, WE SHOULD DISSOLVE THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE FRUSTRATED THAT WE WEREN'T TELLING Y'ALL WHAT TO DO. I'M LOOKING AT YOUR DUTIES RIGHT HERE. YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF GOOD BROAD DUTIES, AND THE STAFF AND THE BOARD HAVE HAVE BASICALLY SAID, YES, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING. AND THEN THAT CAUSE FRUSTRATION THAT WE DIDN'T QUESTION THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DID, WHICH I CONSIDER ACTUALLY A COMPLIMENT, THAT WE'RE NOT QUESTIONING YOUR WORK. SO THAT'S I THINK THE IMPASSE THAT WE'RE AT. I DON'T KNOW WHY THE BOARD CHAIR RESIGNED. I JUST FOUND THAT OUT THE OTHER DAY. SO I THINK, ARE WE TALKING I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TALKING ON TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. LIKE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION IS WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED. AND YOU'RE TELLING ME WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU ENOUGH POWERS TO DO ANYTHING? WHAT YOUR JOB IS AS AS ALL OF OUR BOARDS, EXCEPT FOR ONE THAT WE POINTED OUT TODAY, YOU HAVE TO GO TO COURT IF WE DISAGREE, IS TO ESSENTIALLY BRING IT UP TO THE COUNCIL. COUNCIL SAYS RNA AND WE CALL IT A DAY. SO CAN YOU GO ARE WE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS? GOOD POINT. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME A LITTLE BIT MORE AS TO WHAT THE LETTER STATED. YEAH. YES. THE FEELING AMONG SOME AND MOST BOARD MEMBERS WAS THAT THE REPRESENTATION OF THE BOARD AND THE CONVERSATION, COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH TO THE BOARD WAS LACKING THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ENOUGH SUPPORT FROM, I GUESS, COUNCIL THE TO GIVE THEM MORE DIRECTION ON SOME, SOME THINGS. SOMETIMES IT'S NICE NOT TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S NEEDED. BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE THERE WAS A DESIRE TO HEAR WHAT'S NEEDED, WHAT COULD WE WORK ON, WHAT GOALS CAN WE WORK TOGETHER ON? JUST MORE COMMUNICATION, MORE REPRESENTATION, MAYBE EVEN IN A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, JUST A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, BE MET AND RECOMMENDED X, Y AND Z OR HAD NO RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS DATE AT THIS MEETING WOULD GIVE THEM A FEELING OF REPRESENTATION ON A LARGER SCALE THAT MAYBE THEY FELT WAS LACKING. SO THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION, AGAIN, I WAS NEW TO THE BOARD, BUT THAT YES, I THINK YOU'RE YOU'RE CORRECT IN THAT LETTER AND THE WAY THAT YOU SAID THAT, THAT THEY FELT THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF. DIRECTION AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES WITH FPL AND HOW WE GET OUR POWER, HOW CAN THEY REDUCE THE, YOU KNOW, THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY WHEN THEY'RE NOT THE ONE? MELBOURNE'S NOT GENERATING THE POWER. FPL, FPL IS GENERATING THE POWER. THE POWER COMES IN. IF FPL HAS THE SOLAR TOGETHER PROGRAM AND ALL THOSE SOLAR PANELS ARE GENERATING THE ENERGY AND WE USE THAT ENERGY, HOW CAN WE REDUCE OUR ENERGY FOOTPRINT WHEN WE'RE THE ONES GETTING IT, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          SO WE CAN DO IT BY REDUCING OUR USAGE ON CERTAIN BUILDINGS AND MOVING TO FLEET. THAT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DIFFERENT USE PRACTICES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT IT IS IT'S DIFFICULT AT A CERTAIN POINT WHEN YOU'VE ACHIEVED A LOT OF YOUR GOALS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT. AND I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT KIND OF A POSITION. THAT'S WHY I RECOMMENDED ADJUSTING THE SCOPE SO AS TO ALLOW FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE WITHOUT WITH BEYOND THE CURRENT SCOPE, BUT NOT BE WITHOUT THE INTENTION OF THE CREATION OF THE BOARD. YEAH, OKAY. ONE THING THAT I'LL MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. I KNOW I WAS, I WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL ONES YEARS AGO TO HELP PUSH THE COMBINATION OF THOSE BOARDS, BECAUSE AT ONE TIME WE JUST HAD THE BEAUTIFICATION BOARD. AND AT THAT POINT, I MEAN, WHAT DO THEY DO? BEAUTIFICATION. AND THEN YOU TALK ABOUT ENERGY EFFICIENCY. WE'VE SEEN WE'VE COME A LONG WAY TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, FROM LED LIGHT TO LIKE HELPING WITH THE DESIGN OF THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, THE BOARD HAS DONE A LOT. I JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH FLORIDA BUILDING CODE YOU REQUIRE TO DO. YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT 
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HAPPENED WITH THE BOARD. THE FACT THAT THEY, THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE GIVING THEM DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE IDEA ABOUT THESE BOARDS IS THEY KIND OF HELP US WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION. SO, YOU KNOW, I BEST WAY TO PUT IT. I'M GLAD. YEAH. MAYOR. SO INTERESTING ENOUGH, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF TALK ABOUT BOARDS AND I THINK SO COUNCILMAN NEWMAN TALKED, ASKED FOR A SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE I THINK IF WE REALLY TAKE I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WE REVIEW ALL OF OUR MUNICIPAL BOARDS AND MAYBE THEIR GOALS, THEIR SCOPE, THE PURPOSE, THE ATTENDANCE. I MEAN, I WAS ON THE PNC, BUT I'VE ATTENDED A LOT OF THE BOARD MEETINGS, I'VE ATTENDED THE CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD, ATTENDED THE HAAB BOARD, AND ACTUALLY DONE WORK, THE DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE CRA. AND SO I HAVE THE PURVIEW OF SEEING A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT DYNAMICS AND WHAT THEY DO. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WITH THIS BOARD. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT HISTORY, MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT USED TO BE A BEAUTIFICATION COMBINED AND IT ADDED EFFICIENCY. SO I THINK WITH THE COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE AND WE MAY BE WARRANTED TO REALLY HAVE THAT A MEETING, MAYBE IT IS AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT IT FEELS TO ME LIKE WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE A OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH OUR BOARDS. I JUST I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE THERE. I KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT A FEW THINGS, BUT SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO DISSOLVE A BOARD AND HAVE TO BRING IT BACK BECAUSE I LOVE WHAT YOU SAID. I MEAN, HE JUST ASKED FOR THAT, EXPANDING THE SCOPE. THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL DID WHEN YOU HAD IT AS BEAUTIFICATION. THEN YOU ADDED EFFICIENCY. SO MAYBE BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN I ORIGINALLY SAW THIS BOARD BEFORE BEING ELECTED, I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE BOARD THAT KIND OF DID THE BEAUTIFUL STUFF, THE KBB STUFF, AND THEN COME TO FIND OUT THAT THEY WERE ONLY DOING THAT. AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHY, WHERE DO WE DO IF WE WANT TO HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK BETTER? RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUAGMIRE OF WHAT OUR BOARDS ARE DOING, WHO'S ON OUR BOARDS, WHAT KIND OF RESULTS ARE WE GETTING? AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW BOARDS, I THINK, SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE THAT ACTUALLY IS HERE AT OUR MEETING, PROVIDING A SORT OF A INTERACTIVE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OTHER THAN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT CROSSTALK BETWEEN THE BOARDS. SO I GOT A QUICK QUESTION. I ACTUALLY GOT I'LL WAIT HOW MANY OKAY. YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT GOING. HOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE BOARD WOULD STAY IF WE DID NOT DISSOLVE IT TONIGHT? HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD STAY ON THE BOARD OR COME BACK TO THE BOARD? I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ANSWERING FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF. DO YOU? IF THE SCOPE WAS TO CHANGE, THEY MIGHT CONSIDER IT. I THINK. 
          TO YOUR POINT, MR. MAYOR, IT WAS A BEAUTIFICATION BOARD ORIGINALLY, AND IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO SEE THAT PORTION OF IT DISSOLVE JUST BECAUSE THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY PORTION OF IT HAS BEEN MOSTLY COMPLETED. SO I COULDN'T SPEAK TO THE OTHER FOLKS. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THEY WOULD RETURN. I THINK YOU'D GET A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU FOCUSED ON BEAUTIFICATION ASPECT OF IT, AS WELL AS AN EQUAL PART OF THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY. SORRY, I COULDN'T I CAN'T SAY RIGHT. GOOD, GOOD. SORRY. HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE LEFT OF THIS BOARD? ONE. TWO 345. I THINK AT LEAST OUR LAST MEETING THERE WAS FIVE. BECAUSE YOU GOT BRUCE, YOU GOT HIM, I THINK ABOUT 5 OR 6. YEAH. OKAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS. AND IF ANYTHING, THERE'S A COMMUNICATION PROBLEM BETWEEN US AND YOU GUYS. SO MAYBE IF WE WORK ON THAT, WE COULD POSSIBLY MOVE FORWARD. I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS, BUT THAT'S HOW I FEEL. OKAY. I LIKE THE SOUND OF IT. GIVE ME ONE. GO AHEAD. JUST JUST TO CORRECT. 
          THERE'S ONLY THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD RIGHT NOW. THE REST HAVE RESIGNED. SO MR. SANZONE IS ONE. AND THEN THERE ARE TWO OTHERS. TWO OTHERS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE NEWS. OKAY. REAL QUICK, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. SO QUICK QUESTIONS I ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE. YOU WAITING AND DISCUSSING THIS I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS. SO WHAT WHAT HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE SCOPE EXPANDED. WHAT WOULD YOU DO. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. SO I WOULD APPROACH IT FROM A SIMILAR STATUS OF OTHER CITIES LIKE SATELLITE, BEACH AND OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE DONE THESE KIND OF LARGER SCOPES OF GREEN ACHIEVEMENT TARGETS AND GOALS, AND THEY CALL THEM DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTION PLANS, WHETHER IT'S SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN OR BEAUTIFICATION ACTION PLAN THAT THE COUNCIL APPOINTS INDIVIDUALS SOMETIMES FIT TO CREATE. WHEN YOU HAVE THESE GOALS, THEY CAN BE TICKED OFF THAT LIST. THAT GIVES A SOLID FRAMEWORK TO WORK FROM. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING AS LARGE AS THAT, SIMPLY ADJUSTING THE BEAUTIFICATION ENERGY EFFICIENCY MISSION STATEMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO BEAUTIFY THE COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH STAFF TO THEN IMPLEMENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, BRING THEM TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. THAT WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER ONE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE IN THEIR DUTIES. ALL RIGHT. SO SO SO WE ARE CAPABLE TO DO THAT. I THINK 
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WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IS THAT THE BOARD, WITH THEIR EXPERTISE IN ENERGY AND EFFICIENCY, MAY HAVE BECOME SO FOCUSED IN THOSE LARGER SCALE, ENERGY SAVING, MONEY SAVING IDEAS THAT THE SIMPLER WAYS TO BEAUTIFY A COMMUNITY MAY HAVE NOT BEEN MADE PARAMOUNT THEIR PRIMARY PURPOSE. SO WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND DIRECTION, I THINK THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME NEW PEOPLE ON BOARD THAT COULD LEAN INTO. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN SHARING IT? YES, SIR. WELL, DOESN'T THE BOARD PICK THEIR CHAIR? THEY ARE, BUT BUT WE'RE NOT A CHAIR. 
          WE'RE NOT PICKING A CHAIR. BUT I'M JUST. I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. I DO CAUTION THAT I AM GOING TO GET MARRIED IN DECEMBER AND GOING TO MOVE TO BEACHSIDE, SO I. SO YOU CAN STILL BE ON OURS. OH YEAH. IF I'M ALLOWED TO. SURE. YEAH. I THOUGHT THE MOVE WITH THE WIFE. 
          WHICH ONE'S GOING TO. CONGRATULATIONS BY THE WAY. I GOTTA MOVE IN WITH HER. IS IT A RESIDENCY THING? THE COUNCIL SEVERAL YEARS AGO OPENED IT UP TO BE YOU COULD BE A RESIDENT OF BREVARD COUNTY. OH. THAT'S FANTASTIC. OH, WOW. OKAY. WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT OUR BOARD. 
          A LOT OF GOOD NEWS. SHOULD WE JUST KEEP IT ON HERE AND THEN COME BACK AND GIVE THEM A, A DIRECTIVE OF WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO? I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT GOING. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HERE FIGHTING FOR IT. YOU KNOW, IF I COULD GET CONSENSUS WITH THE COUNCIL, I WOULD. I WOULD POSTPONE THIS ONE. WE CAN MOVE TO QUARTERLY MEETINGS OR SOMETHING. WELL, NO, I'M GOING TO PUT IT ON YOU PUT PUT TOGETHER AN ACTION PLAN TO MY IDEAS, OKAY. AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THAT. AND I LIKE YOUR IDEAS. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT KIND OF SCOPE, HOW WE CAN EXPAND IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT LOOKING JUST TO THROW IT OUT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE LOSE OUR BEAUTIFICATION PORTION. I HATE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. SO WILL WE BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM A DEADLINE LIKE WE'RE HAVING A MEETING. IS IT IN MAY OR JUNE THAT WE GAVE YOU DIRECTION POSSIBLY TO HAVE THOSE? CAN WE MOVE IT TO THAT? AND THEN EVERYTHING'S TOGETHER WITHIN THAT. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK APRIL 20TH, APRIL, APRIL. YEAH. OR THE MAY MEETING. SO WE MAYBE POSTPONE IT TO THAT MAYOR SO THAT IT'S ALL TOGETHER WITH THOSE AND THEN THAT'S FINE. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU THEN WE'LL DO THAT. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. AND AND I WOULD SAY THAT YOU AT LEAST MINE I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I THINK YOU DO A GREAT JOB AS A CHAIRMAN OF THAT BOARD ONCE WE GET IT UP AND RUNNING. 
          WELL THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR, SOMETHING ON OUR WEBSITE, MAYBE TO ADVERTISE THAT THERE ARE SOME OPENINGS. THAT'D BE LOVELY ON THE BOARD. 
          THANK YOU. CAN WE DO THAT? WE CAN DO ANY SORT OF RECRUITMENT. I WOULD JUST ASK COUNCIL IF YOU'RE POSTPONING THE DISCUSSION ON WHETHER TO HAVE THIS BOARD, IF IT'S WORTH RECRUITING NEW MEMBERS, DOING ORIENTATION FOR YOU TO ULTIMATELY DECIDE IN MAY, PERHAPS TO GO A DIFFERENT WAY. BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO RECRUIT ANYONE, WHOEVER. I'M NOT LOOKING TO SCRAP IT RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WITH WITH YOUR IDEAS. THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER BOARDS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REASON TO SCRAP IT BECAUSE OF SOME PEOPLE JUST MAYBE DIDN'T FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER. IT'S MY OPINION. I'M NOT LOOKING TO SCRAP IT YET. SO. SO I JUST WANT TO ASK MAYOR, WHAT IS WHAT IS OUR HESITATION FOR WANTING TO DO A SPECIAL MEETING ON OUR WORKSHOP ON OUR BOARDS? WE MOVED IT TO APRIL. 
          WE JUST PUT IT ALL ON THE SAME. NO, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM IS THAT INSTEAD OF MAKING A SPECIAL MEETING, JENNY FOUND A PLACE WHERE IT WAS NOT DISRUPTIVE AND WE COULD ALL DO IT. OKAY. AND WE'LL HAVE TIME TO REALLY DIG INTO IT. YEAH, OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS DO SOME KIND OF MEETING BEFOREHAND BECAUSE IT BRINGS OUT IT BRINGS OUT PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THAT. I MEAN AND THEN WE REALLY GET I FEEL LIKE WE GET GOOD TRACTION WHENEVER IT'S FOCUSED ON JUST THOSE KIND OF CONTENT AND TOPICS. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. 
          GO AHEAD. SIR. YEARS AGO, BEAUTIFICATION BOARD WORKED WITH THE MELBOURNE GARDEN CLUB AND THAT WAS A SEPARATE ENTITY UNTO ITSELF. AND THEN IT EVOLVED INTO BE. WELL IT WASN'T. 
          WE WERE LOOKING WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THIS BUILDING IN 2007, 2008, WE WERE LOOKING TO THAT BOARD AND OTHERS TO RECOMMEND DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES WHEN BUILDING A BRAND NEW BUILDING. 
          I THINK IT WAS CALLED LEADS OR SOME LEED CERTIFIED. OKAY. SO AND WE TRY TO APPROACH THAT WITH A VERY PROACTIVE ATTITUDE, BUT WE FELL SHORT FOR THE CERTIFICATION. BUT WE DID MEET A LOT OF THE STANDARDS THAT WERE BEING PUT IN FRONT OF US AT A GREATER COST TO TAXPAYERS. 
          BUT HOWEVER, WE DID FOLLOW THAT. AND THEN SO THAT CAME AND MERGED TOGETHER. SO BEAUTIFICATION OR JUST DIDN'T JUST APPROVE FLOWERS AND TREES IN FRONT OF THE CITY, SIGNS AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND THEN THE THIS, THE. THE EFFICIENCY BOARD MOVED ON. ONCE THE BUILDING WAS BUILT, THERE WAS REALLY NO FOCUS TO PUT THEIR EFFORTS INTO AND DRILL DOWN INTO. THEY HAD THEY HAD AN ENTIRE BUILDING TO, TO START WITH. AND THOSE, THOSE FOLKS 
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DID A GREAT JOB. BUT NOW THAT DIRECTION IS GONE DIFFERENT WAYS. SO I THINK TO MAYOR'S POINT, IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK WITH AN ACTION PLAN, I MEAN, I REMEMBER THIS IN 2004, FOR GOD'S SAKES. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO I HATE TO SAY MY AGE, YOU KNOW, BUT HOWEVER THAT'S BACK AGAIN, YOU WERE HERE BEFORE THEY HAD ELECTRIC. I WAS, HOWEVER, I RECALL A LOT OF THE HISTORY ABOUT HOW THEY CAME TOGETHER AND WHAT WAS IT ALL ABOUT. SO I'M ENCOURAGED BY YOU. 
          I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS. AND I'LL SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THOSE. PUT IT TOGETHER. COME BACK. LET'S TALK SOME MORE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT THE HELL, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. DIRECTION. CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL? AND NOW I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, BECAUSE THEN IT COMES BACK AND TALKS ABOUT HIS THING. OR ELSE YOU HAVE TO CREATE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM SOMEWHERE. DO WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO COME BACK? AND YOU DON'T HAVE A DEADLINE? YOU'RE JUST WHATEVER. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD ACTUALLY NO, I WOULD PROBABLY REQUEST DENIAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 2613. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. AND THAT WOULD BE THE CLEANEST WAY. AND THEN FROM THERE, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BROUGHT, NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT BACK UP, WE CAN BRING IT BACK UP, BUT THEN WE DENY IT AND WE JUST MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE I'M NOT LOOKING TO WE'RE NOT POSTPONING. WE'RE JUST WE'LL DENY IT. AND THEN BECAUSE WHAT IF HE DOESN'T COME BACK WITH SOMETHING? THEN WE'LL BRING AN ORDINANCE BACK. AND ACTUALLY, IF WE DO THAT, HE CAN'T GET MARRIED BECAUSE WE'LL MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS. RIGHT. OKAY. IT'S ON YOU. THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT OKAY? I'LL BROADEN MY SHOULDERS. I APPRECIATE IT. AND TO YOUR POINT, THE LEED CERTIFICATION WAS RATHER EXPENSIVE, SO MOST FOLKS JUST DID LEAD EQUIVALENT. YEAH, IT WASN'T A RARE CHALLENGE. YEAH, IT REALLY WAS. YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO DO EVERYTHING WE COULD, BUT THERE WERE JUST SOME THINGS THE CITY MANAGER JUST COULDN'T TELL US, YOU KNOW? YEAH, BECAUSE IT COST TOO MUCH, SO. WELL THANK YOU. COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE A REQUESTED ACTION. DO WE HAVE A DENIAL OF ORDINANCE 2026? MAYOR. GO AHEAD. MAYOR, I MOVE FOR DENIAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026. DASH 13, SECOND MOTION SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY, NAY. WE HAVE. WE HAVE ONE. NAY. NAY. OKAY. YOU ALL GOOD JOB AND I'LL, I'LL VOTE THAT MOTION OVERRIDE YOU PASSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL BE BACK TO DISCUSS. YES. THANK YOU SIR. 
          [19. Discussion regarding the Downtown Core Streetscape Project.]
THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 19. REPORTING ON THIS IS MISS CINDY DIMMER. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS EVENING WE WANTED TO JUST GIVE COUNCIL A STATUS UPDATE OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE STREETSCAPE PROJECT BEFORE WE TOOK THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT. SO WANTED TO JUST RECAP THE PROJECT REAL QUICK FOR COUNCIL AND TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE AT. SO JUST FOR FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WEREN'T HERE AT THAT TIME, BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2023, OUR CONTINUING PLANNING CONSULTANTS, INSPIRE COMPLETED A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED, JUST GENERALLY THAT THE PROJECT. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PRETTY PICTURES IN JUST A MOMENT AS WELL. BUT THE ROADWAY ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO OCCUR IS REALLY A FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT AREA. CONVERSION OF OUR PARKING TO PARALLEL PARKING ALONG NEW HAVEN AVENUE AND THE GENERAL, THE OUTPUT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE THE WIDER SIDEWALKS, MUCH IMPROVED ADA ACCESSIBILITY FOR DOWNTOWN. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECTS LOOKING AT A FULL INFRASTRUCTURE RECONSTRUCTION WATER, SEWER AND STORMWATER FOR THE PROJECT, AND AS FAR AS THE STREETSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS, THE PRETTY STUFF, WE'RE LOOKING AT NEW LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, MATERIALS, PAVERS, RACE CROSS CROSSWALKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AS WELL AS NEW TREE WELLS, SEATING AREAS, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES FOR THE DOWNTOWN, OTHER MODERN FEATURES THAT WE'LL LOOK AT WITH THIS DESIGN. RETRACTABLE BOLLARD SYSTEM FOR EVENTS, ELECTRONIC WAYFINDING INSTEAD OF OUR STATIC SIGNS, AS WELL AS PERHAPS SMART PARKING AND SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS. SO I'LL GO AHEAD. AND THE THE BOUNDARIES ARE BASICALLY THE EAST NEW HAVEN AVENUE, MUNICIPAL LANE, MELBOURNE COURT, AND THEN NEW HAVEN AVENUE ON THE EAST SIDE OF US ONE. AS I SAID, THOSE FIRST THREE SEGMENTS ARE A COMPLETE FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADWAY AND THE NEW HAVEN ON THE EAST SIDE OF US. ONE WOULD JUST BE RESURFACING AND TRAFFIC CALMING. I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY SMALL, BUT I FIGURE IT'S EASIER FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THE MAP THAT SORT OF SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT 
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THOSE BOUNDARIES ARE GOING TO BE. THE CONSULTANT BACK IN 2023 DID LOOK AT THIS AS POTENTIALLY WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN PHASES, AT LEAST IN THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. YOU SEE THE PHASE 12A, TWO B AND TWO C, I'LL JUST NOTE, YOU KNOW, PHASE ONE THAT CONTAINS THE MUNICIPAL LANE CONNECTION. AND THAT WAS REALLY GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROJECT SO THAT WE COULD ENHANCE THAT CONNECTION FROM OUR PARKING GARAGE TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO HELP PEOPLE TRY TO UTILIZE THE GARAGE. IN THAT SENSE, IT WAS GOING TO WIDEN MUNICIPAL LANE WITH A WIDER SIDEWALK AND SORT OF DRAW PEOPLE TO THE NEW HAVEN AVENUE CORRIDOR THAT WAY. AND THEN I'LL ALSO MENTION AN EARLIER ITEM TONIGHT, THE HOLMES PARK PLAZA, THAT ACTUALLY IS ALSO IN THAT SORT OF LOWER RIGHT CORNER OF THAT PHASE NUMBER ONE. SO THIS STREETSCAPE PROJECT WILL, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY BLEND INTO THE HOLMES PARK PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE AHEAD OF IT. SO THE HOLMES PARK PROJECT WILL BE IN PLACE WHEN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE, WOULD BE PROPOSED TO BE STARTING. AND THEN JUST TO SORT OF REMIND COUNCIL OF SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE PRETTY RENDERINGS THAT THE CONSULTANTS PREPARED. YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE A COMPLETELY FULLY RENEWED STREETSCAPE. IT'S GOING TO LOOK VERY, VERY REFRESHED. A LOT OF NEW DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND SURFACES, CROSSWALKS THAT ARE RAISED. THE LARGE PICTURE THERE IS THE INTERSECTION OF MUNICIPAL AND NEW HAVEN AVENUE, THE UPPER CORNER AND LOWER CORNER. THERE ARE JUST VIEWS OF HOW MUCH WIDER THE SIDEWALK GETS. SO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE BASICALLY TALKED ABOUT IS EVERYBODY WANTS WIDER SIDEWALKS, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IS TO GAIN SOME WIDTH AND SOME WAY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE NORTH SIDE OF NEW HAVEN AVENUE, FROM THE ANGLED PARKING TO THE PARALLEL PARKING, YOU KNOW, WAS PROPOSED. WE DID TALK ABOUT BACK IN 23, THERE WILL BE THE LOSS OF 30 PARKING SPACES, AND THAT'S FOR THE WHOLE SECTION OF THE PROJECT. WE'VE SINCE DONE. OUR PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN SHOWS WE DO HAVE A VERY ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF PARKING AVAILABLE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO TO HAVE WITH THAT LOSS OF THAT PARKING. I THINK THE DRAW OF THE PEDESTRIANS BEING ABLE TO USE THIS SPACE WILL BE MUCH GREATER THAN THE PARKING SPACES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE OFF OF THE NEW HAVEN CORRIDOR. AND THEN SO THIS WAS A COST ESTIMATE THAT WE LOOKED AT BACK IN 2023. 
          WE'RE STILL USING THIS AS AN ESTIMATE. THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE SMALL TO SEE UP THERE. 
          BUT BASICALLY THE BOTTOM LINE, $24 MILLION. IT'S A BIG, BIG PROJECT. SOME OF THAT FUNDING WITH THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE THERE, MAY THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF STORMWATER FUNDING. ADDITIONALLY, WATER AND SEWER REPLACEMENT, THERE WOULD BE SOME WATER AND SEWER FUNDING THAT CAME INTO THE PROJECT AS WELL. OTHERWISE, WE'RE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT THROUGH THE CURRENT DESIGN MONEY, AND THEN LOOKING FORWARD AT CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEED TO BOND, WHATEVER THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THEN WILL BE THE JUST TO GIVE YOU A LOOK AT THE THE BUDGET, THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, WHICH IS THAT'S THE NEXT STEP WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH, IS APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION. WE RECEIVED THE MILLION DOLLARS IN THE LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION, AND THEN WE HAVE CURRENT CRA FUNDS FOR DESIGN, APPROXIMATELY $2.1 MILLION. AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST OF BEING A LITTLE OVER 24 MILLION, THAT'S LIKELY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BY THE TIME WE GET THIS DESIGNED AND READY TO GO. THE WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT CONSTRUCTION FUNDING COULD OCCUR IN FISCAL YEAR 28. AGAIN, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A BOND TYPE OF DEBT SERVICE THAT WE WOULD ENTER INTO TO FUND THE PROJECT. THE SUNSET DATE FOR THE CRA IS IN 2042. SO FIGURE THAT GIVES APPROXIMATELY 14 YEARS OR SO IN THAT TIME FRAME FOR PAYOFF OF THAT OF THAT CAPITAL AMOUNT. SO STAFF, INCLUDING MY DEPARTMENT AND REALLY THE IMPORTANT FOLKS, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, HAVE REALLY SAT DOWN AND LOOKED AT WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS ARE GIVEN OUR CURRENT EXPENDITURES AND CURRENT REVENUES, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE CAN WE AFFORD TO EVEN DO THIS, THIS PROJECT. AND 
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SO WE WANTED TO TALK WITH COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TONIGHT WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES OF OUR CURRENT EXPENDITURES, OUR CURRENT REVENUES, LOOKING FORWARD THROUGH THAT, WE BELIEVE THAT WE DO HAVE ENOUGH CRA, YOU KNOW, FUTURE TIF REVENUE TO ACCOMPLISH THE STREETSCAPE PROJECT, ALONG WITH THE HOLMES PARK HOLMES PARK PROJECT THAT COUNCIL JUST APPROVED FOR ENGINEERING DESIGN ON. SO WE WE THINK THAT BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS, THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY TWO MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT TO FUND WITH OUR CRA FUNDING GOING FORWARD. AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE WANTED TO JUST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION THIS EVENING WITH COUNCIL TO GET THAT AFFIRMATION THAT THESE ARE THE TWO HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US PREVIOUS DIRECTION ON, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. AND IF THERE'S ANY TOUGH FINANCIAL QUESTIONS, I'LL WE'LL GET ROSS TO COME UP HERE. GO AHEAD SIR. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOUR STAFF, THE FINANCE STAFF AND EVERYBODY DID ON THIS. THIS IS HUGE AND TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR DOWNTOWN. AND SO I WANTED TO BASICALLY MAKE SURE THAT I CLARIFIED WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FROM US TODAY, BECAUSE I WAS THE WAY THAT I KIND OF INTERPRETED IT WHEN I READ THE AGENDA AND LOOKED AT IT WAS ALMOST SIMILAR TO SOMETHING THAT WE DID IN O'GALLEY, WHERE WE BASICALLY NARROWED THE O'GALLEY SCOPE INTO JUST THE PARKING GARAGE. ARE YOU ASKING FOR LIKE A, A CONSENSUS THAT THESE ARE THE TWO PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR THIS? LIKE WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR US TODAY ON THIS? AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. MY FIRST TIME SEEING IT WAS LOVELY. THANK YOU. SURE. SO REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR THAT THAT AFFIRMATION FROM COUNCIL THIS EVENING AS WE HEAD FORWARD BEFORE THE RFQ AND THEN FUTURE GUIDANCE AS WE'RE COMING INTO BUDGET SEASON, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT DIRECTION. AND ALSO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, IS, IS COUNCIL COMMITTED TO THIS JOB? LIKE SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE $3 MILLION DESIGN FOR THIS $24 MILLION PROJECT? AND THEN ALSO I THINK IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S WISH, THEN I THINK THAT THE CRA, YOU KNOW, STAFF WILL PRESENT TO THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHAT PROJECTS ARE ON THE BOOKS, WHAT PROJECTS ARE IN THE PLAN, AND THEN SORT OF DO THAT SCALE BACK OF THESE ARE OUR TWO MAJOR PROJECTS. THERE ARE SOME SMALLER PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER ALREADY ON THE BOOKS WITH FUNDING IN THEM THAT COULD STILL CONTINUE ON. THERE ARE SOME OTHER, POSSIBLY SMALLER PROJECTS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT THOSE WOULD BE VERY SMALL SCALE PROJECTS, AND THAT WOULD GO TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR YOUR CRA AND COUNCIL APPROVAL. DID I GET THAT? THAT PART RIGHT. OKAY, MAYOR. GO AHEAD SIR. NO, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. I WOULD AGREE THAT THOSE TWO PROJECTS ARE GAME CHANGERS. FOR WHAT? CITY OF MELBOURNE? DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE? JUST THE ESTHETICS OF THEM IS ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I THINK THE CITY MANAGER, JENNY, JUST TOUCHED ON IT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE STATUS OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, LIKE WHAT ARE WE SAYING FALLS OFF? WHAT ARE WE SAYING? SORT OF GETS PUSHED TO THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE STATUS THAT THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THESE TWO, BASED OFF OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT AND OUR FISCAL CONSTRAINTS WOULD, WOULD BE THE PRIORITY. 
          OKAY, I DID I DID PUT A SLIDE ON THAT JUST IN CASE WE WE GOT TO THIS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT JUST SORT OF WALKS THROUGH OUR CURRENT SORT OF MAJOR PROJECTS. SO TONIGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOLMES PARK PLAZA PROJECT. THE DESIGN IS FUNDED AND AND THE REALLY GOOD NEWS ON THAT WITH THE THE ANALYSIS THAT THAT ROSS WAS ABLE TO GO THROUGH IS THAT WITH CURRENT TIF DOLLARS AND THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, WE BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUND CONSTRUCTION OF THAT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY GREAT NEWS. WE WE ALL WANT TO GET THAT PROJECT, YOU KNOW, MOVING ALONG. AND WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT THE NEXT. WE GO TO THE DOWNTOWN CORE. STREETSCAPE DESIGN IS FUNDED AS WE JUST SHOWED THE 3 MILLION THAT WE HAVE ON THE SIDE. AND THEN WE'D BE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION FROM THE VARIOUS SOURCES. IN FISCAL YEAR 28. THE OTHER MAJOR PROJECT THAT'S FUNDED RIGHT NOW IS THE RIVERVIEW PARK ENTRANCE ROUNDABOUT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN, AND THE DESIGN IS FUNDED. AND THEN THERE'S APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION IN THAT PROJECT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROJECT. AND THAT PROJECT WAS IN THE MASTER PLAN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO FOR THE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT. AND THE IDEA OF THAT PROJECT WAS TO TO TRY TO BRING SOME PRESENCE, PRESENCE AND ATTRACTION OF THE RIVERVIEW 
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PARK. IT'S OFTEN TUCKED OVER THERE AND PEOPLE DON'T REALLY REALIZE IT'S THERE. ALSO, TO SOLVE SOME OF THE THE TRAFFIC DIFFICULTIES, AS YOU COME OFF OF US, ONE ONTO W.H. JACKSON AND THAT WHOLE ENTRANCE. SO I ALSO WANTED TO LIST UP THERE WE DO HAVE A HANDFUL OF FUNDED SMALLER CIP PROJECTS. PARKING MANAGEMENT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SO THERE ARE SOME CIP DOLLARS FOR ANY TYPE OF EQUIPMENT AND PARKING MANAGEMENT. THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT SIGNAGE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED IN THE CIP. A US ONE SIGNAGE, THE NEW HAVEN AND FRONT STREET SIGNAGE, AND THEN A CITY HALL GARAGE SIGNAGE, WHICH WAS TO GET SOME LIT LETTERING ABOUT PUBLIC PARKING ON THE GARAGE STRUCTURE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE HAVE FUNDING. WE'RE GETTING READY TO START SURVEYING FOR FUTURE SIDEWALKS THAT BASICALLY GO ALONG. W.H. JACKSON, JACKSON STONE BROTHERS AND AND ACTUALLY, I THINK LIPSCOMB AS WELL. SO WE'RE JUST STARTING THAT PROJECT AS FAR AS DOING THE SURVEY WORK TO DETERMINE RIGHT OF WAY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT SIDEWALKS. SO THOSE ARE EXISTING FUNDED CIP PROJECTS. I JUST SORT OF THEY'RE ALL SMALLER, YOU KNOW, IN DOLLARS. AND THEN THE ONE LARGER PROJECT THAT AND I'M SORRY, I FORGOT TO PUT THE ESTIMATED COSTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THE CRANE CREEK PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN OUT IN THE FIFTH YEAR OF THE CIP. IN OUR EARLY STAFF DISCUSSIONS WITH WITH THE CITY ENGINEER ABOUT WHAT THE COST OF THAT IS LIKELY TO BE IN TODAY'S DOLLARS. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 8 MILLION. SO THAT'S ANOTHER VERY LARGE PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT I'VE JUST EXPLAINED AS FAR AS HOLMES PARK AND THE STREETSCAPE, UNLESS THERE'S A REAL BOOM DOWNTOWN AND WE GET LOTS OF NEW THINGS BUILT, THERE'S LIKELY NOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE TIFF REVENUE TO DO THAT SIZE OF ANOTHER PROJECT. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY OTHER UNFUNDED TYPE PROJECTS OR ANY OTHER, I'D SAY WISH LIST TYPE THINGS THAT ARE NOT SHOWN HERE. 
          NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF OFFHAND. I MEAN, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WE SORT OF HAD ON THE WISH LIST FOR DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED TO GET, YOU KNOW, INTO THE INTO THE CIP AND INTO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THERE'S I THOUGHT THERE'S A CIP PROJECT FOR THE, THE WATER MANAGEMENT OR THE, THE THAT LOW LYING FIELD THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON W.H. JACKSON. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN WE WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT DOING BUILDING SOMETHING ON THAT LOW LYING PROPERTY. OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ON POND STREET. YEAH. ON POND STREET. YEAH. THAT'S NOT IN THE LARGE PART PROPERTIES. NOT IN THE CRA. 
          THE LOT RIGHT ON JACKSON IS. BUT THAT THAT'S A A STORMWATER POTENTIALLY STORMWATER PROJECT NOT SOMETHING IT'S NOT IN THE CRA. SO YOU COULDN'T USE CRA CRA DOLLARS OKAY. SO THIS IS THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE CRA IMPACTED. THESE ARE YEAH ONLY CRA FUNDED PROJECTS. MAYOR. OH NO I'M SORRY. MISS BASSETT WAS ASKING. AND THEN A QUICK QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER MOVING FORWARD WITH WITH THIS, WOULD THAT PUT THE NEW FIRE STATIONS ON A BACK BURNER OR CAN WE DO BOTH? THIS IS FOR CRA, THE DOWNTOWN CRA. AND THIS IS TALKING ABOUT JUST THE FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED WITHIN THE CRA. SO IT SHOULD NOT IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE FIRE STATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE LIKE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBLY LOSING A HUGE CHUNK OF FUNDING. SO WORRIED WE SPEND THE CRA DOLLARS TO START THIS AND NOT BE ABLE TO FINISH IT. AND THEN WE'RE OUT. 3 MILLION. MAYOR. ACTUALLY QUESTION. YEAH. 
          THAT WAS JUST HOLD ON, MISS HANLEY AND THEN OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. PART I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH SINCE I'VE HAD SOME MAJOR BACK ISSUES, IS THAT WE'VE LOST 32 PARKING SPOTS IN THE FRONT. 
          IF I'M GOING TO GO, I JUST HAPPEN TO BE. HAD TO GO TO DAYTONA. THEY DO HAVE THE THE THE NOT THE PARALLEL PARKING BUT THE FRONT END THERE HAD TO GO TO ONE OF THE THINGS ON BEACH STREET, RIGHT OUT IN THEIR OLD AREA, IN THEIR OLD DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE IT WAS FRONT PARKING, I WAS ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND USE IT. IF I HAD TO GO AND PARK, LIKE IN OUR 
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PARKING GARAGE AND HAD TO WALK, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO THERE. SO YES, EVERYBODY GOES, WELL, IT'S ONLY 32 SPOTS AND YOU CAN GO TO THE GARAGE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF DISABILITY AND YOU CAN'T PARK THERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE. SO I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THE PARALLEL PARKING ISSUE. YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, YOU CAN PARALLEL PARK, BUT HOW MANY SPOTS IS THAT GOING TO BE IN THE, IN THAT IN THAT AREA. AND YOU GOT TO PARALLEL PARK. AND IF YOU COME DOWN HERE CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY EARLY IN THE MORNING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN'T GET PARKING SPOTS, EVEN IF WHAT'S GOING ON NOW AND IF YOU GO TO LIKE, I'M GOING TO SAY JACQUELINE'S BAKERY PEOPLE GOING IN THERE WANT THAT'S A A QUICK STOP TYPE OF THING. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO RUN IN, YOU'RE GOING TO GO GET YOUR BREAD, YOUR DANISHES, YOUR COFFEE AND RUN. IT'S A I CALL IT A HIT AND RUN SITUATION. AND IF THEY CAN'T PARK THERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO PARK IN THE GARAGE OR PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT HERE. 
          WALK OVER THERE, GO GET THE THING THAT'S I THINK WE'RE WE MIGHT BE HURTING OUR BUSINESSES RATHER THAN HELPING OUR BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA. AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS HERE, WE GOT RID OF BEING ON COUNCIL NOW FOR A LITTLE WHILE. WE GOT RID OF BENCHES BECAUSE THE HOMELESS WERE SITTING THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM BACK IN. SO I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SCHIZOPHRENIC ISSUE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? ARE WE PUTTING THEM BACK IN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THEM, PUT THEM, SPEND ALL THIS, SPEND HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PUT A BENCH IN. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT TWO MONTHS LATER BECAUSE THE HOMELESS ARE SITTING THERE. AND GRANITE, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE DAILY BREAD ANYMORE. WELL THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY, BUT ARE WE HELPING THE PEOPLE OR HURTING THE PEOPLE WITH THE BUSINESSES? I'M A BUSINESS OWNER. I DEAL WITH BUSINESSES. I KNOW MR. LARUSSO DEALS WITH BUSINESSES, AND PARKING IS A BIG THING GOING IN THERE AND OUT OF THERE, EVEN FOR LIKE A QUICK LUNCH. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO IN THERE. YOU GOT 45 MINUTES TO GET A LUNCH. YOU GOT TO PARK HERE, WALK HERE, AND THEN YOU GOT TO WALK BACK. SO YOU KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A TWO SECOND WALK. SO ARE WE HURTING THEM? ARE WE HELPING THEM? OKAY. YOU HAD A QUESTION? YES, MAYOR. THANKS. SO, MISS, MISS DEPNER, I GUESS SINCE THIS IS CRA WILL FOCUS ON CRA. MIKE, THIS QUESTION IS, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE FACADE? GRANT MONEY? AND THEN ALSO WE HAD THE WORKSHOP ABOUT THE BUSINESS INCENTIVE GRANTS. AND THEN ALSO AS YOU THINK ABOUT AND I KNOW IT WAS GRANT MONEY, BUT THE LINE STREET CEMETERY, ALL THOSE KIND OF CRA RELATED PROJECTS, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THAT? OKAY, THE LINE STREET CEMETERY IS NOT IN THE CRA, SO NOT DID NOT HAVE ANY CRA DOLLARS IN IT. THAT WAS A STATE HISTORIC GRANT. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO AS AS FAR AS IMPACTING, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THOSE DOLLARS. YEAH. 
          THAT'S DEFINITELY. YEAH. AND WHAT ABOUT THE FACADE AND THE OTHER. SO THE FACADE GRANT. SO WE WE LEFT WE LEFT THE CURRENT FUNDING IN AS THE ASSUMPTION GOING FORWARD FOR THE FACADE GRANT. AND SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT COULD CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, OKAY. THAT THAT WAS LIKE I SAID, WE PRETTY MUCH LEFT YOU KNOW, MY NIECE WAS ABLE TO JUST SORT OF LOOK FORWARD AT EXISTING OPERATING COSTS AND, AND REVENUES AND THEN PROJECTING THAT FORWARD. AND THAT WAS ONE THING INCLUDED. THERE WAS SOME PARKING MANAGEMENT THAT WE ALSO THEN PUT IN THERE AS WELL FOR THOSE COSTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HAVE WE TALKED TO THE BUSINESSES IN THAT CORRIDOR. DO THEY WANT. HOW DO THEY WANT THIS. LIKE WITH THE PARKING I'M A BIG PERSON WITH THIS PARKING ISSUE. WHEN WE HAD INSPIR ON BOARD IN 2023, THERE WERE TWO VERY LARGE WORKSHOPS, AS WELL AS SOME MEETINGS OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THE THE BUSINESSES AND THE THE STAKEHOLDERS GENERALLY WERE ALL VERY INVOLVED. I THINK WHAT YOU HEARD MOST OF WAS THEY WANTED WIDER SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE AREA TO WALK AND, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO BE SKIRTING AROUND PEOPLE AND WHATNOT. THAT WAS THAT WAS THE MAIN THEME. AND, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO GET THERE TO GET WIDER SIDEWALKS AND THAT IS TO GAIN THAT, THAT WIDTH, YOU KNOW, FROM ANOTHER PLACE IN PARKING MANAGEMENT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS. I MEAN, PARKING 
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MANAGEMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTE PARKING SPACES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE IN THE MAIN CORRIDOR FOR THOSE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, QUICK IN AND OUT KIND OF NEED. IF WE'RE MANAGING THE PARKING PROPERLY AND WE'RE NOT LETTING LONG TERM PARKERS BE IN THE NEW HAVEN AVENUE CORRIDOR IN THE SIDE STREETS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE PARKING SUPPLY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA WON'T BE IN THOSE. HAVING THE PERSON LIKE ME WHO HAS BACK ISSUES THAT I, I CAN'T WITH, IF I'M HAVING A FLARE UP, I CAN'T PARK HERE AND WALK DOWN THERE. I'M JUST NOT GOING TO HAVE ADA REQUIREMENTS WILL HAVE WILL COME UP TO, YOU KNOW, THE TODAY'S ADA REQUIREMENTS. SO I WOULD HAVE TO GUESS THERE'S PROBABLY MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE HANDICAP PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE AND AVAILABLE. THIS IS FLORIDA. WELCOME TO WHITE HAIR. PLEASE. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. VICE MAYOR I'D LIKE TO GET I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD SAID EARLIER, COUNCILWOMAN HANLEY, IN THAT HOW DOES THE CURRENT TAX SITUATION. HINDER THIS OR HURT THIS, OR DOES IT WILL IT AT ALL? OR ARE WE HERE HE COMES. SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED? BECAUSE I LOVE THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S A GAME CHANGER FOR DOWNTOWN. YEAH I HEARD TAXES, SO I CAME RUNNING. SORRY. WHEN WE SPOKE ON THE 10TH REGARDING THE POTENTIAL OF PROPERTY TAX CHANGES, REGARDING HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES, ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN KIND OF CONTEMPLATED. THE DOWNTOWN CRA HERE HAS ABOUT 7% OF ITS REVENUES COMING FROM HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES. SO IF THAT WERE TO JUST BE ELIMINATED, THAT SIGNIFICANTLY SCALES DOWN OUR ABILITY TO AFFORD EVERYTHING MOVING FORWARD. SO IT BECOMES MORE OF A LEVEL OF SERVICE. QUESTION FROM WHAT WE USE THESE FUNDS FOR, DO YOU CONTINUE TO FUND POSITIONS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE WORKING DIRECTLY IN THE CRA DOING REDEVELOPMENT PLAN PURPOSES? ARE YOU FUNDING MELBOURNE MAIN STREET? ARE YOU FUNDING THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING THESE DOLLARS TO DO TO FREE UP, TO COVER THE COST OF THIS PROJECT? WERE WE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF REVENUE LOSS FROM PROPERTY TAXES? SO I WOULD BE WORRIED. THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO RELAY ON THE 10TH THAT I AM WORRIED. SO PLEASE TAKE THAT WITH WHATEVER GRAIN OF SALT THAT YOU KNOW. I KNOW PEOPLE TALK BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE AND THE VARIOUS LOBBYING EFFORTS, BUT THIS WOULD HAVE A MATERIAL IMPACT ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, BUT WE'D STILL BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT NOT TO THIS EXTENT. AND THIS PROJECT IS LIKE WHAT CINDY SHOWED IN HER SCHEMATIC. THERE WAS DIFFERENT PHASES. SO MAYBE WE CAN JUST DO PHASE ONE AND TWO A AND TWO B, AND AT LEAST PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION FROM THE PARKING GARAGE DOWN TO HOLMES PARK AND THAT CORE AREA OF WIDER SIDEWALKS. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WE'D HAVE TO PIVOT AND ADJUST IF, IF RIGHT THING WITH THE HOMESTEAD TAXES GOES, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS, AND WE SPOKE BEFORE IS GETTING A BOND ON THIS. AND I'M NOT REAL THRILLED. I MEAN, THE BONDING FOR THE WATER SYSTEMS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH. I MEAN, I DO, BUT NOT NOT GIVES ME HEARTBURN. LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS SITUATION HERE. WELL, THE GOOD THING ABOUT, I MEAN THIS IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND RECONFIRMATION OF SUPPORT. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS JUST KIND OF DISCUSS THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND DO WE PLAN ON JUST CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD MONITORING THE TAX SITUATION OR DO WE POSTPONE. CAN WE POSTPONE IT UNTIL NO UNTIL UNTIL THE BUT WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, IF I WAS THINKING THAT IT WAS THE $3 MILLION FOR THE PLANNING UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATORS COME FORWARD. I GOT I GOT A FEELING AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE TAXES, I THINK THIS IS GOING ON A HALT ANYWAY. I WOULD ASSUME THAT MISS LIAM. SO WE RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO GO OUT FOR OUR RFQ FOR THE DESIGN. SO WE DO HAVE TO BRING ONCE WE SELECT SOMEONE, WE HAVE TO BRING THAT CONTRACT BACK AND WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. SO THERE WILL BE TWO CHANCES BEFORE WE ENTER INTO A DOLLAR. YOU KNOW, A CONTRACT WITH DOLLARS, REAL DOLLARS TO BRING BACK. SO YOU COULD POSTPONE OR STOP AND STOP. SO DO WE WANT STAFF TO GO AND DO THIS, DO ALL THIS WORK. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL, YOU KNOW, PULL BACK MAYBE HALFWAY. WE DON'T KNOW THAT. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS I JUST DON'T WANT STAFF TO SPEND THEIR 
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WHEELS. WELL AND THEN HE WANTS TO, BUT WE CANNOT. WE CAN'T JUST STOP WHAT WE DO AND ANTICIPATION OF WHAT THE STATE, THE STATE MAY OR MAY NOT DO. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO MORE CRACKS AT THIS THAT COMES HERE. AND I'M SURE OUR STAFF WILL WILL LET US KNOW IF WE HAVE ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD. BUT I LIKE TO GO AHEAD, SIR, REAL QUICK. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN. I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT THERE THAT I'M NOT SURE IF THE NOT EVEN A MOTION, IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES AS WELL AS HOMESTEAD TAXES, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT'S HOMESTEADED. SO WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? THAT'S THE QUESTION I GOT. I KEEP ASKING MYSELF, SO IF THE IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE AND THE CRA, 80%, 70% IS COMMERCIAL IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, MR. LARUSSO. AND LISTEN, I THINK IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE HOMESTEAD TAXES, EVERYBODY HAD THIS IDEA. NO, WE DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAX. THAT IS NOT TRUE, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S STILL THE NON-SCHOOL. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO COLLECT THE SCHOOL PORTION? WE DON'T EVEN KNOW. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN. IT SOUNDS GOOD. YOU KNOW, TO EVERYBODY, I WOULD LOVE NOT TO PAY TAXES ON HOMESTEADED PROPERTY, BUT WHO'S GOING TO FUND THE POLICE? WHO'S GOING TO FUND THE FIRE AND THE ROADS? I DON'T WANT TO START ACTING LIKE THE LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE. I AGREE, I'M IS FLOWING OUT OF US BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW AGAIN. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. SO I AGREE I AGREE I THINK WE MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE DO, WE HAVE A CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD UNTIL YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. ONE, TWO. YEAH. WE GOT AT LEAST SIX. YES. SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD. 
          [20. Revision of City Council Policy #10 regarding Critical Community Needs funding.]
ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 20. THIS IS REGARDING. 
          COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER TEN CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED BY MCLAM. I'M ACTUALLY DEFERRING TO REBECCA BEAR THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. HELLO EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. REBECCA BEAR, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. THIS IS A REVISION TO CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER TEN REGARDING CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEEDS FUNDING. SO BACK IN 2001. SO SOME TIME AGO, COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION 1727, WHICH RELATED TO GRANTS AND AID FUNDING THAT CREATED COUNCIL POLICY TEN. PART OF THAT POLICY IS WE HAVE A GRANT IN AID FUNDING COMMITTEE THAT THOSE FUNDING REQUESTS ARE THEN FORWARDED TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW. HISTORICALLY, THAT GRANTS IN AID FUNDING WAS USED FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN THE PAST, INCLUDING PARADES, NONPROFIT AGENCY FUNDING, VARIOUS REQUESTS THAT COME OUTSIDE OF YOUR TYPICAL BUDGET PROCESS. BACK IN 2019, THAT FUNDING COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT FUNDING TO BE REDUCED DOWN TO $48,000. THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IT WAS REDUCED IN HALF DOWN TO $24,000, AND THEN WAS EVENTUALLY ELIMINATED. ALSO IN 2019, AS PART OF THE RESPONSE TO THE THE FLORIDA AUDITOR GENERAL JEALOUSY AUDIT, WE HAD TO ESTABLISH THE PROCESS FOR CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED. SO A CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED IS DEFINED AS AN IMPORTANT SOCIAL SERVICE OR CLOSELY RELATED ACTIVITY BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY OF WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL IS DESIROUS OF HAVING FULFILLED. SO THESE CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED REQUESTS ARE NOT FUNDED. THE PROCESS WAS KIND OF INVENTED AS A RESPONSE TO IF A CITIZEN OR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION CAME TO COUNCIL UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, SAID, I NEED MONEY FOR WHATEVER THEIR PROJECT WAS OR WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO HAVE FUNDED, AND YOU GUYS WOULD DECLARE IT A CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED. AT THAT POINT, YOU WOULD REFER THAT APPLICATION TO THE GRANTS AND AID FUNDING COMMITTEE. THAT COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, ME, YOUR CITY CLERK, KEVIN MCEWEN, AND THEN YOUR BUDGET OFFICER, MARLA KEENE. WHAT HAS KIND OF HAPPENED OVER TIME IS THAT PROCESS HAS BECOME REDUNDANT. IF YOU RECALL RIGHT NOW, TWO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, YOU HAVE TWO CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT SEEM TO COME EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS YOUR FUNDING FOR DAILY BREAD AND CITY, CITY TOWN FOR HOMELESS CASE MANAGEMENT, AND NOW THE O'GALLEY MAIN STREET PROGRAM. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING? THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL. YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, YES, THAT'S A CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED SEND IT TO THE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE IS MEETING. WE'RE SAYING, WELL, YES. COUNCIL SAID IT'S A CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED. NOW TAKE IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A FUNDING AGREEMENT. SO IT'S YOU'RE SEEING THESE APPLICATIONS HONESTLY TWO TIMES. 
          PLUS A COMMITTEE MEETING IS BEING SCHEDULED. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE COMPETITIVE GRANTS PROCESS ANYMORE, WE'RE NOT BUDGETING FOR COMPETITIVE GRANTS IN AID. THE THOUGHT FROM STAFF IS THAT THAT COMMITTEE IS NO LONGER NEEDED. WE WANT TO GIVE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS. DECIDE ON YOUR OWN. YOU DON'T NEED THE ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS. THE CITY MANAGER WOULD THEN GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT A POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR THAT PROJECT. SO THIS NEW REVISED POLICY REMOVES THAT WHOLE SECTION ON COMPETITIVE GRANTS AND AID, BECAUSE THERE'S NO FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT ANYMORE AND ELIMINATES THAT COMPETITIVE GRANTS AND AID FUNDING. SO WE ARE SORRY THAT COMMITTEE. SO WE WOULD NO LONGER HAVE THAT COMMITTEE. THE NEW PROCESS WOULD PROVIDE A PROCEDURE FOR 
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AN APPLICANT. IF THEY WANTED TO REQUEST FUNDING FROM THE CITY, THEY WOULD COME TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. OUR OFFICE WOULD BE THE KEEPER OF THAT APPLICATION PROCESS. WE WOULD DIRECT THEM THEN TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO KIND OF SHEPHERD THEIR APPLICATION THROUGH. SO IN THOSE TWO SCENARIOS, I GAVE O'GALLEY, MAIN STREET AND STEADY TOWN. THOSE WOULD PROBABLY BE HOUSED IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHO HANDLES THEM NOW. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WOULD SHEPHERD THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE WOULD SCHEDULE AN AGENDA ITEM, COME TO CITY COUNCIL, WE WOULD GIVE YOU A POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE, OR YOU COULD IDENTIFY A FUNDING SOURCE IF YOU HAVE SOMEWHERE THAT YOU WANT TO FUND THAT FROM. 
          AND THEN IF YOU DECIDE THAT THAT IS A CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED, IT WOULD THEN RETURN AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WITH A FUNDING AGREEMENT. THAT FUNDING AGREEMENT WOULD PROVIDE DELIVERABLES AND MONITORING REQUIREMENTS, AND STAFF WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE AGREEMENTS AND MONITOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AGREEMENT AND THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY SAID TO DO. SO THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS TO APPROVE THE REVISIONS TO COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER TEN, WHICH WOULD NOW CALL IT THE CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEED FUNDING. WE HAVE AN I HAVE A RED LINE VERSION IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, WHICH IS A LITTLE HARD TO READ. IT'S A LITTLE BUSY BECAUSE WE REMOVED A WHOLE SECTION, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE VERSION OF A NEW POLICY IN THERE, PLUS THE NEW ACTUAL APPLICATION THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD FILL OUT AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ACTION ON THIS? THEY'RE GOOD. MA'AM, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER TEN. 
          CRITICAL COMMUNITY NEEDS FUNDING AS REVISED. AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING ON TO 
          [D. PETITIONS, REMONSTRANCES, AND COMMUNICATIONS]
PETITIONS, REMONSTRANCES AND COMMUNICATION. WE'LL START OUT WITH YOU, MR. NEWMAN. ALL RIGHT. 
          I JUST GOT ONE THING. FIRST OF ALL, SHOUT OUT TO CINDY DITTMAR AND HER TEAM. THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE RESIDENT WHO WAS HAVING SOME CONCERNS ABOUT AN AREA LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL REGARDING THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO DO PARKING BECAUSE OF THEIR ECONOMIC ZONING. ONE THING THAT I LEARNED, YOU GUYS MAY ALREADY KNOW THIS. THERE'S AN ECONOMIC ZONING LAYER ON TOP OF THE CRA MATCHED ONE FOR ONE. THAT LAYER CAN BE MOVED AND EXTENDED TO ALLOW FOR MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT EXPANDING THE CRA. SO WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THEM ABOUT IT, THEY HAD MENTIONED HOW THEY HAD ACTUALLY BEEN INTERESTED IN MOVING IT FORWARD UP FROM EAST TO US ONE AND THEN UP TOWARDS HIBISCUS. AND IT'S A LITTLE ZONING AREA THAT THE STAFF COULD DO ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ANY SORT OF OUTSIDE ANYTHING, NOT REALLY A FISCAL BUDGET COST, BUT WOULD ALSO ECONOMICALLY IMPROVE THE AREA, GIVE MORE OPTIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND TENANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I WAS IT WAS REALLY EXCITING THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT THAT THERE'S THESE POSSIBILITIES OUT THERE. 
          THEY ACTUALLY HAVE BIGGER DREAMS FOR DOWN THE ROAD IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE THEY DO PLANNING TO DO EVEN MORE NORTH OF THAT. BUT THEY, THEY WHEN I TOLD THEM THAT I WAS HIGHLY INTERESTED IN IT, THEY SAID IF I COULD GET CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD, THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN MOVING THAT ZONE UP A LITTLE BIT TO THAT AREA THAT I DESCRIBED. HAPPY TO HAVE QUESTIONS OR A FEW MORE DETAILS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, JUST KIND OF KIND OF RESTATE IT AGAIN. I HEARD YOU, BUT IT WAS KIND OF SOUNDED LIKE IT'S INCREASING THE ECONOMIC ZONE, NOT THE CRA, THE ECONOMIC ZONE NORTH FROM WHERE WE ARE. IT'S BASICALLY HERE AT CITY HALL, NORTH UP TO HIBISCUS, EAST TO US. ONE WAS THE ECONOMIC ZONE. 
          IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING OF THAT. IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. THE IN CODE, IT'S THE CENTRAL BUSINESS OVERLAY ZONE. YOU MAY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFTEN CALLS IT THE CBOS BUT THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ZONING FOR THAT. I TOLD YOU YOU JUST WANT TO DO YOU NEED CONSENSUS OR A MOTION ON THAT. JUST GENERAL CONSENSUS. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M FINE WITH THAT. EVERYBODY FINE WITH THAT? YEAH. COOL. I JUST WANT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. SOUNDS INTERESTING. COOL. 
          THANKS. OKAY. AND, MISS BASSETT, I DON'T HAVE A LOT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WENT TO THE POLICE AWARDS CEREMONY ON FEBRUARY 26TH, AND I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY THAT GOT AN AWARD. WE ALSO GOT A BACK STORY OF HOW THEY GOT THEIR AWARD. SO VERY WELL DONE FOR EVERYBODY. I WISH WE COULD DO MORE FOR THEM WHEN HEARING ALL THE STORIES, BUT THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MY FAMILY. I WAS INVITED TO THE EAST COAST RESILIENCE COMMISSION AND IT WAS DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT CITIES, DIFFERENT COUNTIES, TPOS EVERYTHING ELSE. AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN INVITED TO THIS. I HOPE THEY INVITE ME TO OTHER ONES. BUT WE HAD TO STATE WHAT WAS OUR BIGGEST FEARS KEEPING US UP. 
          AND A LOT OF THE THINGS. MINE WAS HEAT. ANOTHER ONE WAS THE. ABOUT THE HOUSING LIVE LOCAL ACT AND YOU KNOW, IT BROUGHT IN DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU LOOKED AT. AND BECAUSE OF THE LIVE LOCAL ACT IN DIFFERENT CITIES, THAT THERE'S BUILDINGS BEING BUILT ON AREAS THAT 
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SHOULDN'T BE BUILT, AND THEY'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO IT LOOKS OKAY RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN FIVE, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM THAT THAT AREA SHOULD NOT BE BUILT ON. AND WE DON'T HAVE A SAY IN THOSE BECAUSE THE STATE HAS PREEMPTED OUR SITUATION AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH OUR INSURANCE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE ON THESE BUILDINGS, AND THEN THESE BUILDINGS ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN THEY'RE NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACES TO BE BUILT AT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS LATER ON WHERE THEY'RE BEING BUILT. THAT WAS THAT WAS A REAL OKAY IN LIKE VOLUSIA COUNTY. AND I DIDN'T BECAUSE IT WAS IN NEW SMYRNA AND AFTERWARDS DRIVING AWAY THE SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF THEM IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. I DID NOT REALIZE HOW LOW LEVEL IT WAS AND HOW MUCH WATER IS IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. AND THEY HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HEAR IN THE NEWS THE FLOODING UNTIL YOU START LOOKING AROUND AND YOU'RE LIKE, REALLY? THEIR LAND IS REALLY LOW LAND AND THERE IS A LOT OF WATER HERE. SO THEY HAVE A BIG PROBLEM IN THOSE AREAS. BUT THE ONE OF THE BIG IS THE LIVE LOCAL, THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. AND THAT THE OTHER ONE IS KEEPING US IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH SAY AS A COUNCIL WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN OUR CITIES AND A LOT OF THE BUILDING AND, AND LIKE THAT WAS A REALLY, REALLY OPENED UP MY EYES TO LOOK AT. WE DON'T SEEM TO BE AS BAD AS SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, BUT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR INSURANCES. SO THAT WAS A BIG EYE OPENING SITUATION FOR ME. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. SMITH. YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I THINK BETWEEN NOW FROM OUR LAST MEETING, I WENT TO THE EDC MEETING. THEY DID THAT OVER IN COCOA VILLAGE AT THE. WHAT WAS THAT I NOTICED THAT WAS THAT WAS THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD MEETING. THEY DID THAT AT THE PLAYHOUSE. AT THE PLAYHOUSE? YES, YES. GOOD MEETING. LOTS OF GREAT ATTENDANCE THERE. THE AMERICAN LEGION, THE NATIONAL AMERICAN LEGION IS CELEBRATING ITS 107TH BIRTHDAY THIS SATURDAY, MARCH 15TH AT AMERICAN LEGION POST 191. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE A CELEBRATION FOR THAT. THEY'RE HAVING A BREAKFAST ON SATURDAY, AND THEN THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT ON THAT SUNDAY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE 15TH. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR INCLUDING ME ON THE FIRST PITCH AT TIM WAKEFIELD FIELD, WHICH IS FORMERLY CRANE PARK. I THINK IF WE LOOK AT THE VIDEO, I THINK MY PITCH WAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN YOURS, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. AND ACTUALLY IT WASN'T IT REALLY WASN'T THE BALL OUT OF THE STRIKE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD, GOOD. AND THEN ALSO ATTENDED THE SPACE COAST CHAMBERS THEIR FIRST EVER. THE BREAKFAST THEY DID A NEW PAD WHICH STANDS FOR TECHNOLOGY AEROSPACE. AND I FORGET THE SECOND A AND THEN DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. BUT IT WAS IT'S A GREAT INITIATIVE. THEY STARTED THE SPEAKERS THAT THEY HAD AND THEY REALLY APPROACHING TECHNOLOGY AEROSPACE DEFENSE AND LOOKING AT THINGS IN THIS AREA. I REALLY LIKE WHAT THEY DID THERE. 
          AND THE POLICE AWARDS WAS ALSO VERY, VERY INSPIRING TO SEE THE GOOD WORK THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THE POLICE ARE DOING. AND THEN WE HAD FIRE TONIGHT. SO KUDOS. AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GIVE ATTABOYS TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, FIREFIGHTERS, THOSE HELP PEOPLE ON THE FRONT LINE WHO DO, WHO SERVE AND DO SO MUCH TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. SO. RIGHT. YEAH. SO QUICKLY. LET'S SEE. OKAY, SO I'VE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. DO WE HAVE AN AI BUSINESS PLAN PER DEPARTMENT OR SHOULD WE EVEN HAVE ONE? SHOULD WE START ONE? JUST A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, SEE WHERE AI IS GOING TO TAKE US DOWN THE ROAD AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE WATCHING FOR AND WHAT WHAT WE SHOULD BE FEARFUL OF. YEAH. SECOND THING IS THE E-BIKE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING TALLAHASSEE IS IS PRETTY MUCH RESOLVED PART OF IT. ONLY BY NOT MAKING A LAW. AND THEY'VE CREATED A TASK FORCE FOR US TO YOU GOT TO BE YOU CAN ONLY BE RIDING YOUR BIKE OR MOTOR TEN MILES AN HOUR. HOLD ON TEN MILES AN HOUR. WHEN YOU GET CLOSE TO WITHIN 10 OR 50FT OF A PEDESTRIAN ON THE SIDEWALK, THERE'S THERE'S A COUPLE OF LITTLE NON-ISSUES, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE COLLECT AND EVERY CITATION THAT WE MAY WRITE, WE HAVE TO PACKAGE THAT AND SEND IT UP TO TALLAHASSEE FOR THEIR TASK FORCE TO BE ABLE TO BY SEPTEMBER. THAT'S WHAT'S COMING. AND THEN WHEN THAT'S DONE, THEN THEY'LL TAKE IT AND PUT IT INTO THE GRINDER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ALL THE CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE DONE. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I STILL THINK THAT, TO OUR POINT, VICE MAYOR, THAT WE SHOULD FOLLOW THROUGH RIGHT NOW WITH THE E-BIKE CONVERSATION. AND I WOULD ASK CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL TO TO GATHER THE 
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INFORMATION FROM ALL OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES, LOCAL SATELLITE, BEACH AND SO ON AND WITHIN THE COUNTY. I THINK IT'S COCOA BEACH AS WELL TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, SATELLITE BEACH, AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, RANDOMLY SOME OTHER PLACES IN THE STATE SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE SAME BOX THAT ALL OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE LOOKING AT HERE, THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS THAT WE'RE JUST NOT LOOKING AT. DON'T FORGET SAINT PATRICK'S DAY PARADE ON SATURDAY, EVERYBODY'S IRISH ON THAT DAY. AND FINALLY I ASKED MISS SLAM WHERE WE WERE WITH THE PAUL GUGELMIN PARK. AND I'VE BEEN TOTALLY ENCOURAGED THAT THE PLAQUE HAS BEEN ORDERED. WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT. AND THEN SO IT'S IN THE PROCESS. AND SO WHEN YOU GET THAT INVITATION TO BE THERE, I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU'LL MAKE THE TIME TO BE THERE. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PATRICK. AND THEN BUT VICE MAYOR AND THEN WE GOT A SPEAKER AND THEN. OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU FOR STEALING MY THUNDER, COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE COMPILE SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE WAS A GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. THAT'S WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? THE VULCAN MIND. YES. AND YOU SAID IT SO ELOQUENTLY. SO I WON'T SAY ANYMORE, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SAINT PATTY'S DAY PARADE AS WELL, TOO. I WILL BE THERE. GOOD. OKAY. AND REAL QUICK, WE GOT ONE SPEAKER, JAMES COLEMAN. DEACON. OH, YES. HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE. ARE EVERYONE HERE? HOW ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT? GOOD. FALL ASLEEP. I'M. YOU KNOW, WE GOT INTERESTING STUFF TONIGHT. IT WAS GOOD COMING TO TAKE CARE OF A LITTLE BUSINESS, BUT YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING. YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED TO SEE THE GOVERNMENT AT WORK ACTUALLY DOING SOME WORK AND NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER STUFF, BUT ANYWAY. I GOT GOLF IN THE MORNING. LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT, SO I GOT TO HURRY UP AND GET MY STUFF TOGETHER SO I KNOW I'M GONNA GET YOU ALL OUT OF HERE. 
          I JUST WANT TO KNOW I'M FROM CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP CHURCH OF GOD ON HOPE ROAD THERE. THAT STREET. IS IT IN THE UPDATE? ARE WE DOING ANYTHING ON? IS THERE ANY MOVEMENT? Y'ALL JUST IN ON REGARDING HOPE STREET, THE PAVING. YEAH. OH, GOOD. MISS LIAM, THERE WILL BE A TASK ORDER ON THE MARCH 24TH AGENDA FOR THE DESIGN OF THE HOAG AVENUE, CONVERTING IT FROM A DIRT STREET TO A PAVED STREET. SO BASICALLY, NEXT AGENDA. MY HEARING IS KIND OF BAD, YOU KNOW? SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MARCH 24TH IN TWO WEEKS. WE HAVE A DESIGN COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT STREET. YEP. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S ON THE AGENDA TO FOR THE DESIGN SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO GET IT DONE FIRST. WELL, FIRST, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW YOU JUST COME UP HERE AND I'M ABOUT READY TO SAY HALLELUJAH. HOLD ON. HEY, YOU JUST SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT WORK. YEAH, IT'S ALREADY ON THE NEXT AGENDA. WELL, PRAISE THE LORD. WELL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LONG TIME COMING AND GOOD NIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO HOME AND GO TO BED. I GOTTA GET READY. GOODNIGHT. BUT THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY. VICE MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK YEAH, WE I DON'T REALLY I WENT TO A BUNCH OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO LIST THEM ALL. 
          BUT I WILL SAY THE LAST THING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE O'GALLEY LITTLE LEAGUE WAS A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT. HUNDREDS OF KIDS, HUNDREDS OF KIDS. BEAUTIFUL WEATHER MAN. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH GOT TO THROW OUT THE FIRST PITCH. AND I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME. BUT HIS HIS HIS WAS A BALL AND MINE WAS A STRIKE. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT THAT IS THE TRUTH. AND THERE'S VIDEO OUT THERE, BUT I'M GOING TO. AND BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING, I'M GOING TO END THE MEETING NOW AT NINE. YES. AND WE DID THAT AFTER WE DID THE
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