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RIGHT.UH, CALL TO ORDER THE BEAU BEAUTIFICATION ENERGY EFFICIENCY BEEB BOARD MEETING.
IS THAT, NO, I DID THAT WRONG.
YOU DID THAT? I, I GOT A CALL.
SO, UH, SO WE'RE GONNA CALL THE, UH, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER 2:00 PM I'M GONNA ASK THAT SOMEBODY, UM, GET APPOINTED TO BE THE TEMPORARY CHAIR SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A CHAIR YET.
WE'LL BE DOING ELECTIONS LATER IN THE MEETING, BUT WE NEED A TEMPORARY CHAIR, UH, FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING UNTIL ELECTIONS.
DO WE GET TO VOLUNTEER OR DO WE VOLUNTEER? OTHER PEOPLE? I'LL VOLUNTEER.
DOES ANYONE MAKE A MOTION THAT NICHOLAS SANZONE IS THE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT NICHOLAS SANZONE IS THE CHAIR FOR THIS MEETING.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THERE A SECOND? I CAN SECOND IT.
I WILL READ THE OPENING STATEMENT.
OPENING STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR.
GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE MAY 15TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE BEAUTIFICATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD.
BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, LET ME REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING.
THE AUDIENCE IS REMINDED THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING OF THE BOARD.
THEREFORE, CLAPPING, CHEERING, AND OUTBURSTS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
SPEAKERS MUST COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
SUBMIT YOUR COMPLETED FORM TO STAFF WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED.
USE THE MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO PUBLICLY STATE YOUR STREET ADDRESS, YOU MAY STATE ONLY, YOUR CITY OR UNINCORPORATED BREVARD COUNTY.
DO NOT ADDRESS BOARD MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY.
BE MINDFUL OF THE SPEAKING TIMES AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE THE TIME ENDS.
INDIVIDUALS WILL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ON MOST AGENDA ITEMS. SPEAKING TIMES MAY BE VARIED BY THE CHAIR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
WE'LL MOVE ON WITH OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM UNDER THE OPENING THE CALL TO ORDER THE PLEDGE OF THE STAFF, THE ROLL CALL.
THANK YOU MEGAN, FOR USING THE CURSOR RIGHT THERE.
AUSTIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT.
UH, I DO JUST WANNA, UH, MENTION ONE THING, UM, TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT ATTENDANCE AND, UM, REDOING, REDOING, REDOING YOUR APPLICATION.
SO TWICE A YEAR, UM, THE CLERK'S OFFICE SENDS A MEMO AND A BLANK APPLICATION TO BOARD MEMBERS WHOSE TERMS WILL BE EXPIRING.
UM, BOARD MEMBERS ARE EXPECTED TO UPDATE THEIR APPLICATION AS AN INDICATION OF THEIR DESIRE TO BE RERECORDED TO THE BOARD.
UM, REGULAR UPDATES TO THEIR APPLICATIONS, ENSURE THAT, UM, THEY CATCH CHANGES AND NAMES, ADDRESS CONTACT INFORMATION, AS WELL AS ANY CHANGES TO THE MEMBER'S POTENTIAL DUAL OFFICE HOLDING OR CONFLICTING CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS.
WE'VE HAD BOARD MEMBERS WHO SUBMIT REVISED APPLICATIONS THAT SHOW THEY NO LONGER LIVE IN THE CITY, ARE THEREFORE INELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD.
BUT THAT IS NOT TRUE FOR THIS BOARD.
YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF, OF THE COUNTY.
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NOT UPDATE THEIR APPLICATION, CITY COUNCIL IS BEGINNING TO NOT REAPPOINT THEM.THIS OCCURRED, UM, LAST NIGHT.
THAT'S WHY THIS, UM, WAS EMAIL WAS SENT OUT TO US.
IF YOU DO NOT REGULARLY SHARE THE BOARD ROSTER WITH YOUR VOLUNTEERS, WHICH WE, WHICH WE DO, UM, BOARD MEMBERS NEED TO BE AWARE OF THEIR TERMS WHEN THEIR TERMS ARE EXPIRING AND INFORM THAT FAILURE TO SUBMIT AN UPDATED APPLICATION WILL LIKELY RESULT IN IT NOT BEING REAPPOINTED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO READ THAT TO EVERYBODY SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
DID YOU SAY ANNUALLY OR WHEN YOUR TERM IS UP? WHEN YOUR TERM IS UP.
WHICH EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE GOT FROM KEVIN IN YOUR BINDER.
I'LL NEED TO BE DOING THAT SOON.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
DO WE HAVE, THEY'RE FROM JANUARY 20, 26.
I DIDN'T SO HOW DO WE WANNA DO THAT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THEM THROUGH.
DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE.
AM I ALLOWED TO SECOND AS CHAIR? I ALWAYS FORGET
I THINK I CAN I SECOND? I I DON'T THINK SO.
NO, I SECOND, SECOND FROM GEORGE.
JUDGE STEPHEN IS FIRSTED AND GEORGE IS SECOND.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
MOVING ON TO BE UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO SEE NEW BUSINESS, UH, INTRODUCTIONS.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF OUR FIRST ONE.
UH, I'LL VOLUNTEER TO GO FIRST SINCE I AM YOUR TEMPORARY CHAIR.
UM, WE'LL TRY TO KEEP IT CONCISE.
I I KNOW THAT I CAN BE LONG-WINDED FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW ME.
UH, BREVARD COUNTY RESIDENT NICHOLAS FRANK SANZONE, UH, BORN AT HOLMES REGIONAL HOSPITAL, ATTENDED MANY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HERE IN THE COUNTY.
WENT TO SCHOOL AT EASTERN FLORIDA, WENT TO UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, STUDIED SOIL AND WATER SCIENCE.
I WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE LAGOON THAT I GREW UP ON, AND I LEARNED ORGANIC CHEMISTRY.
AND THAT HELPED ME UNDERSTAND MOSTLY THAT BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS ARE REALLY GREAT AT FUNCTIONING, UH, THROUGH EVOLUTIONAL DESIGNS OF THEIR OWN MECHANISMS OF FINDING SOME COEXISTENCE WITH EACH OTHER, AND THAT IT WAS HUMAN BEINGS WHO ACTUALLY HAVE THE MOST VITAL ROLE TO PLAY IN NOT MESSING UP THOSE BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS THAT HAVE FOUND EQUILIBRIUM.
AND THROUGH SOIL AND WATER SCIENCE.
THE LAGOON ITSELF KIND OF TOLD ME THAT THE IMPACTS THAT WE HAVE CREATED IN THE PAST HAVE BROUGHT US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW IN THE CURRENT STATE OF THINGS, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY DOING BETTER THAN THEY WERE A DECADE OR TWO AGO BECAUSE OF OUR ACTIONS AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP OF WELL MINDED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE DONE THINGS LIKE PAST THE HALF CENT SALES TAX TO FUND PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY TO REMOVE AND REPLACE, UH, DERELICT STORM WATER SYSTEMS, SEPTIC SYSTEMS, AND ANTIQUATED OTHER SYSTEMS THAT HAVE DRAINED INTO THE LAGOON.
ALSO, THE IMPACTS OF CLAMMING AND FISHING ON THE LAGOON THAT WAS HARVESTED WITHOUT MUCH FORWARD THINKING IN THE PAST HAS NOW LED US TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE FOLKS LIKE THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND TODD OSBORNE PLANTING MILLIONS OF CLAMS, UH, REGULARLY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT RESTORATION WORK THAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY THAT WE AS PEOPLE ARE CHAMPIONING AND PIONEERING NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT HOPEFULLY THIS BOARD, UH, WHICH IS WHY I'VE APPLIED TO THIS BOARD UNDER THE NAME BEAUTIFICATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY, COULD CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THAT PROGRESS OF CREATING A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH NATURE FOR OUR MUTUAL BENEFIT AND HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE.
UH, AGAIN, AS A SOIL WATER SCIENCE PERSON LEARNING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, I WAS LED TO MANGROVES AND SEAGRASSES AS WAYS THAT WE COULD REPLANT THOSE THINGS THAT WERE REMOVED AND HOPEFULLY EDUCATE HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES THROUGH STEWARDSHIP TO FIND THE, THE, THEIR INVOLVEMENT CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THE WORLD AROUND THEM A BETTER PLACE FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING THEMSELVES.
AND I DO, UH, I DID A LOT OF THAT BY WORKING AT NONPROFITS LIKE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL.
I WAS AN INTERN THROUGH THE NATIONAL PARKS SYSTEM FOR, UH, A WHILE.
UH, WORKED WITH, UM, THE NATURE CONSERVANCY, THEN WORKED WITH THE CITY OF SATELLITE BEACH.
AND, UH, CURRENTLY I'M THE TOURISM DIRECTOR FOR THE SEBASTIAN RIVER AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN SEBASTIAN.
UH, BECAUSE A, IT'S A LOT OF FUN.
UH, TWO, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT ON A LARGER SCALE TOWARDS BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS AND VISITORS ALIKE.
SO THE REACH THAT I GET IN MY POSITION TO EDUCATE OTHERS ABOUT STEWARDSHIP,
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WHETHER IT'S THROUGH, UH, WHEN THEY VISIT THE AREA, THEY CAN ACTUALLY ENGAGE IN STEWARDSHIP AND CITIZEN SCIENCE, OR THEY CAN DO IT AS A LOCAL INDIVIDUAL THAT'S ACTUALLY A RESIDENT.THEY CAN DO IT THROUGH DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. I MEAN, IF YOU ENJOY THE LAGOON, YOU PROBABLY WANNA PROTECT THE LAGOON.
SO EVERYONE CAN KIND OF GET ON BOARD WITH THAT KIND OF MESSAGING.
I ALSO VOLUNTEER WITH A FEW EVENTS, UH, IN THIS CITY YEARLY.
ONE OF THEM IS THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING SEMINAR, WHICH GEORGE, YOU YOU'VE ATTENDED AS THEM MANY TIMES.
UH, WE DO THAT IN, UH, COMBINATION WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, OF COURSE, WITH THIS STAFF RIGHT HERE.
SO I'VE GOTTEN TO WORK WITH THEM FOR, UH, A FEW YEARS NOW OVER WITH A FEW DIFFERENT HATS ON ALSO THE, UM, FRONT STREET PARK EVENT, A LAGOON DAY, WHICH I THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN IN OCTOBER, AND HOPEFULLY THIS BOARD CAN ALSO BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
I DID START A LITTLE BUSINESS LAGOON LIFE, WHICH HAS BECOME MORE OF A NONPROFIT THAN A BUSINESS, BUT
UM, MOST RECENT SUCCESS IN THAT WHEELHOUSE HAS BEEN THE CREATION OF A SMALL CHILDREN'S BOOK.
AND THAT IS WHERE I LEAVE YOU WITH THE CURRENT STATUS OF WHO I AM AS YOUR, UH, TEMPORARY BOARD CHAIR, UH, NICHOLAS FRANK SANZONE, AND I'LL PASS IT, UH, OFF TO STEVE.
UM, UH, CLASS OF 96 FROM UF UH, MECHANICAL ENGINEERING.
UH, WORKED FOR THREE YEARS IN THE FIELD FOR A DEGREE THAT I TOOK MAYBE TWICE AS LONG TO GET, UH, BEFORE REALIZING THAT, UH, I JUST LOVED WORKING OUTDOORS MORE AND, UH, UH, WORKING FOR MYSELF.
SO I, UH, STARTED MY TREE BUSINESS FULL TIME.
UH, I'VE BEEN A CERTIFIED ARBORIST.
I HAVE NOT CARRIED THE CERTIFICATION FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
I DO INTEND TO RECERTIFY THIS YEAR.
UM, BUT, UH, I BRING A WEALTH OF, UH, LANDSCAPING AND, UH, TREE BACKGROUND AS WELL AS THE MECHANICAL ENGINEERING BACKGROUND THAT COULD BE USEFUL, UH, IN THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, UH, SEGMENT OF THIS BOARD'S SCOPE OF WORK.
UM, BUT ALSO, OF COURSE, UH, BEAUTIFICATION, UH, WITH THE TREES AND LANDSCAPE BACKGROUND, I THINK WILL BE RIGHT UP MY ALLEY AS WELL.
UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF MELBOURNE FOR, UH, SINCE 1989.
UM, MY FAMILY WAS RAISED HERE AND, UM, I MEAN, MY CHILDREN GREW UP HERE AND, UM, I, UH, I WORK, UM, NOT IN BEAUTIFICATION EXCEPT AT MY OWN HOUSE, SO I'M A MUSIC DIRECTOR AT A CATHOLIC CHURCH, BUT, UM, I, I AM AN AVID GARDENER AND, UM, I'M ALSO THE TREASURER OF OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, DARTMOUTH TRAILS, WHICH MAINTAINS A TWO ACRE POND.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE USING THE CORRECT, UM, LANDSCAPING FOR THAT.
UM, WE DID TRY CARPET ONE TIME, BUT NOW THERE'S JUST HAVE THE TILAPIA.
BUT, UM, I ENJOY BEAUTIFICATION AND MAKING THINGS BETTER, UH, IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
AND, UM, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, I'M ALL FOR IT.
I DRIVE A TESLA, SO, UH, I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE DRIVING ELECTRIC CARS,
UH, BUT, UM, YEAH, I'M, I AM INTERESTED IN LEARNING AND HELPING TO, UH, TO MAKE, UH, THE CITY A A BETTER PLACE ENERGY WISE AND BEAUTIFICATION WISE.
THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH, GEORGE AUSTIN.
I'VE BEEN IN MELBOURNE FOR ABOUT 32 YEARS NOW.
UH, I HELP OUT, UH, WITH SOMETHING CALLED THE AMERICAN CONSERVATION COALITION, WHERE I'M THE BRANCH LEADER.
AND SO WHAT WE DO THERE IS WE, UH, WE'LL ORGANIZE BEACH CLEANUPS, UH, RIVER CLEANUPS, UH, EDUCATION, LIKE ON SEA TURTLES.
UH, WE HAVE WITH OUR, UH, FLORIDA OVERALL, UM, ORGANIZATION.
WE ARE GOING ON THE 2ND OF JUNE TO GO SEE THE PORT ST.
LUCIE, UH, NUCLEAR POWER PLANT.
SO I'M HOPING TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON HOW THE CITY WORKS ON ALL THIS, AND HOPEFULLY I CAN BRING, UH, SOMETHING VALUABLE TO THE TABLE.
I'M SORRY, BEFORE YOU GO, WADE, DO ME A FAVOR.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO CALL ROLL, SO I WANNA KNOW HOW TO
CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? IT'S THE AMERICAN, OH, CONSERVATION COALITION.
UH, WADE, I'VE BEEN ON THE BEEP FOR A WHILE.
UH, BEEN IN AND OUT OF THE AREA FOR, I WAS, I I WENT TO SCHOOL HERE.
I WAS BORN IN WISCONSIN, BUT, UH, WENT TO MERCY OF FLORIDA.
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UH, IN, IN FINANCE.UH, CURRENTLY RUNNING A COMPANY THAT IS WORKING ON, TO AN EXTENT CONSERVATION, BETTER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.
WE ARE, UH, SCALING PERMANENT MAGNET MANUFACTURING, UH, HERE ON SPACE COAST.
UH, THAT COMPANY HAS BEEN AROUND, IT'S CALLED ADVANCED MAGNET LAB, INC.
BUT IT'S BEEN, WE, WE GO BY EML.
IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 95, BUT IT'S TRANSITIONED FROM VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, BASED HERE IN MELBOURNE, JUST NORTH OF THE ICE PLANT.
UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER FACILITY IN WEST MELBOURNE.
AND, UH, SO VERY MUCH A LITTLE BIT OF OUR, OF OUR TOUCHING POINTS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, BUT A LOT OF EXPOSURE TO THE, THE EVER-CHANGING WORLD OF SUPPLY CHAINS, EVS MARKETS, UM, FINDING WAYS TO USE RESOURCES BETTER.
AND SO THAT'S THE EXPERIENCE THAT I BRING HERE.
UH, AND I LOVE TO LEARN ABOUT POWER GENERATION AND, AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS, CHILLERS, ACS, WAYS THAT, UH, THE CITY IS, IS EVOLVING AND, AND, AND USING ENERGY MORE EFFICIENTLY.
WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY SO MUCH.
AND, AND WADE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIVE YEARS ON THE BOARD.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY BIG HELP TO, THAT ARE NEW.
AND LIKE I HAD MENTIONED TO MEGAN, I MEAN, I'M, I'M COMMITTED TO, TO HELPING FUNNEL IN SOME, SOME YOUNGER, UH, INTEREST AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY TO GRAB ONTO TO SOME OF THIS MESSAGING AND, AND, UH, AND HELP, UH, FACILITATE MORE, UH, INTERACTION AND SORT OF COLLABORATION AMONGST SOME OF THE OTHER, OTHER THINGS.
THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER EXCITING TOPICS BESIDES WHAT THE BEEP DOES.
PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND AI AND, AND, UH, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY SO MANY THINGS THAT CONNECT TO NOT JUST WHEN SOMEBODY WALKS DOWN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE OR GOES SOMEWHERE AROUND THE CITY TO UNDERSTAND BEAUTIFICATION, BUT LIKE, WHY IS IT ALL RELEVANT? WHY, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT THAT YOU SHOULD CARE WHAT'S AROUND YOU? THE ENERGY, UH, AND AND, AND POWER CONSUMPTION, ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO MAKING YOUR ENVIRONMENT BETTER.
AND SO, I MEAN, THAT'S MY HOPE IS TO TRY TO, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE, 'CAUSE I'M SUPER BUSY, BUT TO TRY TO SEND PEOPLE THIS WAY AND, AND REALLY PROVIDE MORE TOOLS TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
I WANT TO JUST JUMP ON THAT A SECOND.
AND I KNOW WE'RE STILL UNDER NEW BUSINESS INTRODUCTIONS AND WE'RE GONNA LEAD INTO THE BACKGROUND OF THE BEAUTIFICATION ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD NEXT.
UM, BUT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD AND THE WAY THAT WE FUNCTION IN THE FUTURE, KIND OF GOING FORWARD, FINDING CHAMPIONS, EMPOWERING RESIDENTS, GETTING THE COMMUNITY TO SEE AND TO BE INVOLVED.
I MEAN, THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? WE'RE FIVE PEOPLE AND STAFF OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, BUT MAGNIFYING THAT IMPACT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF.
I THINK, YEAH, I THINK YOU WANNA MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER.
YOU WANT TO HAVE THE, THE MOMENTUM AND THE ROUTE CONNECTING IT INTO SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT MAY HAVE MORE VISIBILITY.
UM, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON, JUST A BETTER VANTAGE POINT BECAUSE OF A TOPIC OR BECAUSE THEY, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, GOING IN A DIRECTION THAT HAS GATHERED MORE COMMUNITY SUPPORT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR WHAT THE VIEW DOES.
IT'S JUST, UH, REALLY FINDING WAYS TO SORT OF COLLABORATE AND, AND CONNECT THOSE DOTS, I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
UM, CAN WE LEAN ON STAFF FOR NUMBER SEVEN? IS THAT, ARE WE ALLOWED TO, OKAY.
UM, NEW BUSINESS BACKGROUND OF THE BEEP.
UM, SO MOSTLY YOU TOOK THE ORIENTATION, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT THE BACKGROUND OF THE BE IS OF IFICATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD, BUT IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2017.
UM, AND THE BOARD DUTIES AS OUTLINED IN SECTION 2, 2 0 7, THE CODE, UH, INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN FOR CITY OPERATIONS WITH THE GOAL OF ACHIEVING A HUNDRED PERCENT ENERGY BY, IT WAS 30, UH, 20, 35, BUT, UM, 2045, UH, LAST YEAR.
UM, BECAUSE LIKE, UM, THAT WASN'T FEASIBLE.
SO WE PUT 2045, UM, AND THANK YOU.
NOW IT'S WORKING
UM, ALSO IN THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY CODE, UM, THE BOARD'S, ONE OF
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THE REQUIREMENTS IS TO DEVELOP AN ASSESSMENT PLAN TO TRACK ACTIVITIES AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, ALONG WITH PROVIDING AN ANNUAL REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL ON ACTIVITIES AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BAND, UH, PLAN.UM, SO THEY ALSO CREATED A ENERGY EFFICIENCY POLICY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED BACK IN 2019.
SO, UM, AND IN THAT CODE THERE'S ALSO, UM, ABILITY TO, UH, GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON CITY CODE CHANGES, UM, AND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE BACKGROUND.
IT USED TO BE FOCUSED MORE ON BEAUTIFICATION AND THEN, UM, IT MERGED INTO BEAUTIFICATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN 2017.
UM, ANY COMMENTS ON, ON THAT BACKGROUND? IS THAT PRETTY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY? UM, I ACTUALLY, I'D ASK WADE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL PICK ON YOU A LITTLE BIT WITH ALL YOUR EXPERIENCE, UH, THE THINGS THAT WERE ACHIEVED BY THE BE PREVIOUSLY I FEEL IS WORTH HIGHLIGHTING.
UH, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE THE POLICE STATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A NUMBER, I MEAN, I CAME IN WHEN THEY WERE WORKING ON THE ANNUAL PLAN AND REALLY TRYING TO MAKE A WAY TO CREATE SORT OF BENCHMARKS TO, OR THEY, OR WHAT'S THE GOAL? AND IF THERE WAYS TO MAKE PROGRESS TOWARDS IT, OR AT LEAST DEVISE THE CITY ON BENCHMARKS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, SOME OF THE, THE INTERVIEW, THE, THE, UH, THE ENERGY, UH, WHAT'D YOU CALL IT? THE, UH, WELL, THE JAM AWARDS, BUT ALSO THE, UH OH, THE STORMWATER MVV.
YEAH, BUT THE ALSO THE, UH, WITH, UH, OH, CLEAN ENERGY AWARDS.
SO THE, SORRY, I DIDN'T SAY OH, ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, MY BAD.
BUT YES, WE ALSO HAVE A GEMS AWARD, CLEAN ENERGY AWARDS, AND BRUCE HAD WORKED ON THAT.
AND MOST VALUABLE PONDS AWARD, WHICH IS THROUGH LISA, IT'S STORMWATER TO GIVE, UM, TO GIVE HOAS, UH, OR ANY POND AROUND THE CITY, AN AWARD
AND, AND, AND SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT, THAT CREATED MORE ENGAGEMENT.
UH, AND I, I THINK THE TRANSITION TOWARDS TRYING TO, TO CREATE THAT DIALOGUE, NOT JUST BETWEEN COUNCIL UM, AND COUNCIL AND, AND CREATING THOSE, THOSE DIALOGUES.
AND I THINK THAT NOW REALLY UNDER, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK GOING FORWARD IS IMPORTANT, IS MAKING FOLKS AWARE OF WHAT, WHAT ARE BENCHMARKS AND WHAT ARE THEY, BECAUSE I THINK STILL, I, I BELIEVE IS THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT THE POWER OF THIS, OF THIS BOARD WILL BE BASED UPON, ITS ITS CONNECTIVITY TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND GETTING OPINIONS AND BUY-IN.
BECAUSE THAT CAN THEN HELP SHAPE POLICY WITHIN THE CHAMBERS OF COUNCIL, UM, AND GET FOLKS TO, TO, TO COMMUNICATE AND COME AND SHOW UP AT THESE MEETINGS AND, OR AT LEAST SEND ME FEEDBACK.
AND, UM, BUT I THINK THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING AND LOOKING AT ENERGY EFFICIENCY USE, WHAT IS FPL DOING? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE FLEET OF THE CARS? WHAT, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY, HOW MUCH ARE PETROL? HOW MUCH ARE HYBRID, HOW MUCH ARE ELECTRIC? MM-HMM
UM, AND YEAH, SO THERE WAS, I THINK THERE, I MEAN, THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT THE CITY IS SO BIG.
I MEAN, IT'S CITY OF MELBOURNE IS, IT COVERS A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS.
UM, AND TRYING TO REEL THAT IN IS, IS DEFINITELY THE, I THINK THE TASK GOING FORWARD.
UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A A MOMENT WITH THAT TO THANK ALL THE FEED MEMBERS THAT CAME BEFORE US.
I KNOW RANDALL SAT HERE AS CHAIR, UH, JOHN WINDSOR, UM, BRUCE LINDSAY AND OTHERS THAT, THAT I MAY BE FORGETTING, UH, FOR ALL THEIR WORK TO, TO GET US TO WHERE WE'RE AT.
'CAUSE THEY DID A LOT TO ACHIEVE MM-HMM
AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT WE CAN DO WITH GETTING OUR POWER FROM FPL L RIGHT? THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT WHERE THE POWER COMES FROM AND HOW WE USE THAT POWER WITHIN, WITHIN REASON.
SO REDUCING OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
MEGAN, CAN YOU REMIND ME, REMIND ME AGAIN THAT THAT NUMBER THAT WAS, WAS THE GOAL ONE MORE TIME? A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAN ENERGY BY 2025.
AND DID WE EVER AMEND THAT IN ANY WAY? THAT'S, THAT'S CURRENT.
THAT IS WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, PROJECTION IS.
IT WAS 20 BY 2035, BUT NOW IT'S 2045.
SO WE'RE ABOUT 85% CLEAN ENERGY, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY 'CAUSE OF FBL PLUS ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TOO.
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THE THERMAL STORAGE.SO I, I KIND OF WANT TO START THERE WITH A LITTLE, LIKE BASE GROUND OF WHERE WE'RE AT TO KIND OF REALIZE THAT A LOT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
WE'RE PART OF THE FLORIDA TO MM-HMM
UH, SOLAR TOGETHER PROGRAM WITH FPL L IT'S FANTASTIC.
UM, SO I THINK WHEN WE GET TO DRAFTING THE SUSTAINABLE ACTION PLAN, NUMBER NINE, KEEPING THOSE THINGS IN MIND WOULD BE A, A REALLY BENEFIT TO DRAFTING A, A FUNCTIONAL SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN THAT IS IMPLEMENTABLE WITH GOALS THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED.
IT REALLY HELPS YOU GET THE BALL ROLLING.
YOU KNOW, I WANNA DO A HUNDRED PUSHUPS, BUT IF I COULD JUST DO ONE A DAY, THAT WOULD BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT.
UH, WHAT IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ELECTIONS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DO I HAVE TO ASK FOR BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS ON EVERYTHING BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I THINK THAT'S PROPER, RIGHT? USUALLY IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT, BOARD MEMBER COMMENT.
ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IN THEIR NEW BUSINESS QUESTION? YES.
ARE WE CONSIDERING, UH, NUCLEAR TO BE SUSTAINABLE?
I BET THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
YOU ARE GONNA GO VISIT THE PLANT I AM IN, UM, IN ST.
I, UM, SO IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CODE.
WHAT DOES IT SAY IN THE CODE? SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, MY THOUGHTS ON IT IS THAT, UM, RIGHT NOW HOW WE MAKE IT IS FROM URANIUM AND SOME OF THE LARGEST, UH, DEPOSITS OF URANIUM IS IN AFRICA.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BEST, UH, RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE COUNTRIES THAT HAVE IT.
RIGHT? WE'RE NOT BUILDING THEIR NEW ROADS LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER LARGER COUNTRIES ARE IN THE WORLD.
BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS CALLED THORIUM, WHICH SOME OF THESE SMALL MODULAR REACTORS ARE LOOKING INTO CREATING AS A FUEL.
AND SO WE HAVE THE LARGEST DEPOSIT IN THE WORLD THAT'S KNOWN AS OF RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT DOES NOT, NOT IN FLORIDA, IT'S IN UTAH.
UM, BUT THAT IT DOES NOT BREAK DOWN TO WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM.
SO IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF WE DID HAVE THESE SMALL MODULAR REACTORS AROUND, LIKE TO POWER DATA CENTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, MORE SUSTAINABLE.
THAT IT WOULD BE MORE SUSTAINABLE AND AT LEAST IT WOULDN'T BE, UH, ANYTHING.
HOW ANSWER, HOW RECYCLABLE ARE THOSE SPENT? FUEL RODS? SO THE URANIUM ONES ARE ACTUALLY QUITE RECYCLABLE.
UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T DO.
THERE HASN'T BEEN A PIPELINE FOR IT.
IT'S CHEAPER FOR THE COMPANIES ACTUALLY JUST TO GET NEW MATERIAL.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT, UH, FIGURES OF IT, BUT I, I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT WAS LIKE, YOU CAN GET 80% BACK FROM THE SMITH FUEL ROD.
UM, WELL THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR KIND OF KICKING THAT, THAT OFF QUESTION.
UH, STEVE, AS PART OF THIS BOARD, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WHEN WE DO GET INTO A LOT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, UH, I FIND IT BENEFICIAL BY SLOWING DOWN AND REALLY DEFINING SOME OF THE TERMS THAT WE'RE USING AS WE GO FORWARD, SO THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
UH, WHAT IS RECYCLABLE? WHAT IS SUSTAINABLE? THERE ARE GENERAL DEFINITIONS.
THERE ARE COLLOQUIAL DEFINITIONS, AND I THINK THEY'LL, IT WOULD BEHOOVE US, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER LOCKSTEP IF WE CAN KIND OF WORK FROM THE SAME DICTIONARY, SO TO SPEAK.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND,
UH, IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A COMMA THERE? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A MISSING COMMA THERE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NUCLEAR GAS.
IS THAT A, IS THAT A THING THAT I DIDN'T LEARN ABOUT? I, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW THAT WE USE THE WATER TURBINES, SO WE TURN IT INTO A STEAM STEAM AND THAT'S WHY RUNS IT.
I THINK THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A COMMA THERE.
UM, BIOFUELS NOT THE PICK ON ANYBODY, OF COURSE.
AND NATURAL GAS IS PROBABLY WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO.
WASTE ENERGY CON CON CONVERSION, EXCUSE ME.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START.
I LIKE, I LIKE COMING BACK TO THESE, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTS TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE AND KEEP US FOCUSED.
UM, CAN WE CHECK AND SEE IF THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMMA THERE? I THINK MAYBE THERE WAS, DR.
PARKINSON HAD ADDED THE, UM, THOSE EXAMPLES OF RENEWABLE ENERGY.
DO WE THINK HE MIGHT'VE MISSED A COMMA? BUT I KNOW HE'S A REALLY GREAT PERSON AND VERY, VERY SMART.
YOU MEAN NUCLEAR COMMA GAS? YES.
OR DID YOU THINK HE MEANT NATURAL GAS, PRESUMABLY? WELL, IT SAYS RECYCLED NATURAL GASES LATER.
SO PROBABLY COMMA, I'M THINKING THAT THAT WAS ITS OWN THING LATER.
I'M THINKING THAT, UH, MAYBE THE
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COMMA WAS SUPPOSED TO GO BEFORE GAS, SO IT WAS GAS BIOFUELS.I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE.
SO THERE IS SOMETHING AS, UH, NUCLEAR GAS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
WE, I THINK HE GOT THIS FROM, UM, FPL WEBSITE.
WELL, LET'S LOOK INTO THAT TOO.
LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE OPERATING OFF OF THE CORRECT YEAH.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING US FOCUSED.
UH, I THINK WITH THAT IN MIND, WE CAN MOVE ON THEN HEARING NO OTHER COMMENTS ON NUMBER SEVEN, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER EIGHT.
SO WE NEED, UH, THE BOARD TO ELECT A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR.
WADE, YOU'RE THE LONGEST HERE.
DO YOU WANNA VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING OR MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? OR, I'M A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT, SO I WILL, UH, VOLUNTEER FOR OKAY.
UH, I WILL DO, I WILL SAY THAT I DO SERVE ON A LOT OF BOARDS AND I DO COME WITH A LOT OF BOARD EXPERIENCE.
SO I AM COMFORTABLE IN THIS, THIS CHAIR.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, THE ROBERTS RULES.
AND I'LL REMIND YOU ALL TO, IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE LITTLE ROBERTS RULES HANDBOOK.
IT KEEPS YOU, UH, IN THE SUNSHINE SO THAT WE MAKE DISCUSSIONS HERE.
SO, UH, WITH RESPECT TO EACH OTHER'S TIME DURING BOARD MEETINGS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO BRING UP IDEAS AND DISCUSS THEM, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE DISCUSS THEM.
BUT DO KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALL INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, AND ONCE WE HAVE A CONVERSATION, I WILL LEAN THAT YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MEETING THAT WILL KEEP US MOVING FORWARD.
UH, IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEED TO DIRECT TO STAFF, PLEASE DO SO.
REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU, UH, EMAIL STAFF, YOU ARE EMAILING STAFF.
DO NOT INCLUDE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ON THOSE EMAILS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER, BRING IT TO THE MEETING.
IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE AND YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO A BOARD MEMBER ABOUT HOW PRETTY THE DAY IS AND HOW GREAT THE SURF WAS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BEAUTIFICATION, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, IF IT COULD BECOME AN AGENDA ITEM OR IS AN AGENDA ITEM, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE SAY FOR THE MEETINGS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FAITH IN ME TO DO THIS.
I WILL DO MY BEST TO MAKE YOU ALL PROUD.
WE WILL MOVE ON THEN WITH NO OTHER FURTHER COMMENT TO THE DRAFT SUSTAINABLE ACTION PLAN.
THIS, UH, CREATED WITH THE HELP OF THE STAFF.
I WOULD LOVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, LITTLE BIT, LINE BY LINE TODAY.
WHAT IS OUR SCHEDULE ON TIME FOR TODAY? STAFF? HOW, WHAT IS OUR PLAN? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY WHERE THEY REALLY NEED TO BE AT THREE O'CLOCK? WE'LL START THERE.
COMMENTS FROM STAFF, UH, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, WHERE WE ARE, WHY YOU CREATED IT, AND MM-HMM
THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT YET, SO, PERFECT.
THE, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO GIVE US A FRAMEWORK SO THAT WE CAN OPERATE TO OUR FULLEST POTENTIAL AND FIND THINGS THAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF BEING CHAMPIONS OF.
LIKE, AUSTIN, THE ENERGY YOU SEEM TO HAVE A, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THAT RADIOACTIVE HALF-LIFE OF ELEMENTS THAN, THAN I DO ON, ON SOME OF THIS.
SO I MIGHT LEAN ON YOU FOR, FOR THAT.
YOU KNOW, AND STEVE, YOUR, YOUR ARBORIST EXPERIENCE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE TO PLANT A TREE AND RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER TREES AND HOW TO CREATE A HEALTHY CANOPY, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT LEAN ON, ON YOU FOR THAT.
YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH THE, THE EV FLEET, I THINK WAS WHERE YOU KIND OF CAME IN PRETTY GOOD, UH, THE LAST MEETINGS THAT I WAS AT.
SO THERE'S STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE EMPOWERED TO BE CHAMPIONS OF.
I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU VOLUNTEER YOURSELVES TO KIND OF TAKE THESE ON.
UM, THE LAST ONE OF THESE THAT I WORKED ON AS A STAFF OF THE CITY OF SATELLITE BEACH, UM, WE WERE BASICALLY USING A DOCUMENT LIKE THIS TO CREATE, UH, GOALS, TARGETS.
THOSE TARGETS WERE THEN THINGS THAT THE BOARD WOULD RECOMMEND TO STAFF, HOW TO GO ABOUT ACHIEVING.
THEY WOULD WORK WITH STAFF TO DO THAT.
VOLUNTEERING, GETTING OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS INVOLVED, SO AS TO TAKE THE WEIGHT OFF OF THE STAFF.
'CAUSE STAFF, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY OF THEM, AND THEY HAVE A LOT TO DO.
SO, EMPOWERING THE COMMUNITY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, TO PARTAKE IN SOME OF THESE, UH, EITHER PROJECTS, PLANS OR PROGRAMS ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN GET A LOT DONE AND UTILIZE OUR ENERGY EFFICIENTLY AS WELL.
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THAT.THAT MIGHT OCCUR OVER THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS.
UH, SO WE'LL START WITH THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
WE'LL WORK OUR WAY THROUGH, AND IF THERE ARE EDITS, LET'S, LET'S SHOUT 'EM OUT.
LET'S FEEL FREE TO, TO MAKE EDITS AS WE GO.
I THINK THAT'S A, A HEALTHY WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
UM, SO I'LL READ AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO POPCORN READ AND TAKE OVER THE NEXT SECTION, JUST, JUST LIKE IN GRADE SCHOOL, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL JUST PASS IT ON TO THE NEXT PERSON.
UH, WE'LL, IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH STAFF IF WE BEHAVE THAT WAY? YES.
THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE THE ROLE OF ITS BEAUTIFICATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD BY ALIGNING BEAUTIFICATION, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WATER STEWARDSHIP, AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INTO A UNIFIED RESULT DRIVEN FRAMEWORK THAT WILL BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS.
HOW'S THAT SOUND? PRETTY GOOD.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO ADD TO THAT BETWEEN WATER STEWARDSHIP, ENERGY EFFICIENCY THAT PERTAINED TO BEAUTIFICATION, WE CAN ALWAYS BRING THAT BACK AND MAKE AMENDMENTS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THIS TODAY.
THE PROPOSAL OUTLINES THE MELBOURNE SUSTAINABLE ACTION PLAN, A STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK DESIGNED TO AND ENHANCE THE VISUAL CHARACTER OF THE CITY.
REDUCE OVERALL OPERATIONAL COSTS THROUGH ENERGY EFFICIENCY, IMPROVE WATER QUALITY AND STORM WATER PERFORMANCE, INCREASE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND RECOGNITION, SUPPORT LONG-TERM RESILIENCE AND SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
I THINK ONE THING THAT I WANNA CIRCLE BACK TO AS WE USE THIS PHRASE A LOT IS SUSTAINABILITY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN OUR CONTEXT? UH, I BELIEVE ZACHARY EELS QUOTED, UH, SOMEBODY SMARTER THAN ME A LONG TIME AGO WHEN HE WAS WORKING, UH, WITH FIT TO HELP CREATE THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN FOR SATELLITE BEACH.
AND IT'S LIKE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE PRESENT WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE NEEDS OF THE FUTURE.
OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT, LIKE THE, THE DRUTHERS REPORT, I, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES OF THE DEFINITION.
AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT DEFINITION KIND OF MEANS IS LIKE, WE NEED TO SURVIVE, THRIVE, AND BE ALIVE TODAY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO COMPROMISE FUTURE GENERATIONS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S WHAT SUSTAINABLE MEANS.
YOU'RE SUSTAINING LIFE, RIGHT? SO AS LONG AS WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THAT FOR SOME GENERAL PURPOSE, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ACHIEVING A SUSTAINABLE GOAL.
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PASS THE TORCH TO FOR FUTURE GENERATION.
WHERE WE PLANT A TREE, THAT TREE PRODUCES SAPLINGS, WE TAKE THOSE SAPLINGS AND WE PLANT THOSE SAPLINGS, THOSE CONTINUE THE PROCESS ON.
WE CONSERVE ENERGY BY REDUCING, UH, COMPUTERS AND LIGHTS THAT ARE ON, ON, ON TIMES WHEN THEY DON'T NEED TO BE.
I PERSONALLY LIVE NEXT TO TWO SCHOOLS SOMEHOW BECAUSE I CURRENTLY LIVE AT MY HOUSE AND MY FIANCE'S HOUSE, AND BOTH OF THEM NEXT TO SCHOOLS, I SEE THE LIGHTS ON ALL NIGHT LONG WITH NO SHIELDING.
THEY ARE JUST BLASTED EVERYWHERE.
AND, AND I WANT, I WANNA LIVE IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE STUDIES AND THEY FOUND THAT LIGHT SPILL ACTUALLY IS NOT AS SAFE AS DIRECTED LIGHT.
SO THE COMBINATION OF SOME OF THESE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO REDUCE ENERGY AND, AND THEN HAVE THAT ENERGY TO SPEND ON OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LIGHT TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE IN OTHER PLACES.
AND REDUCING LEDS, YOU KNOW, OR IN INCREASING LEDS AND REDUCING LIGHT ENERGY IN BUILDINGS LIKE THIS, I THINK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE A LOT THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY.
BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO BUILDING ENVELOPE ASSESSMENTS FOR DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, WE'LL FIND OPPORTUNITIES FOR IT THERE.
THAT I THINK IS A FAIR DEFINITION OF SUSTAINABILITY THAT WE CAN KIND OF OPERATE OFF OF.
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT DEFINITION SO FAR? GREAT.
RATHER THAN CREATING NEW PROGRAMS FROM SCRATCH, THIS PLAN BUILDS UPON THE CITY'S EXISTING STRENGTHS, INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL, COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS, COASTAL RESILIENCY PLANNING, AND CURRENT BOARD INITIATIVES TO CREATE A MORE COORDINATED, MEASURABLE AND PUBLICLY VISIBLE SYSTEM.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART.
OPERATING IN THE PUBLIC, HAVING METRICS AND BEING MEASURABLE.
UH, MOVING ON TO PURPOSE AND DIRECTION.
THE BEAUTIFICATION ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD PLAYS A CRITICAL ATORY ROLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL BY RECOMMENDING POLICIES, PROGRAMS, AND INVESTMENTS THAT IMPROVE BOTH THE APPEARANCE AND PERFORMANCE OF CITY OPERATIONS.
THIS FRAMEWORK REFINES THAT ROLE INTO THREE CLEAR OBJECTIVES.
NUMBER ONE, CREATE A MORE ATTRACTIVE AND COHESIVE PUBLIC REALM.
TWO, IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND REDUCE COST IN CITY OPERATIONS.
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MEASURABLE OUTCOMES THAT BUILD PUBLIC TRUST AND PARTICIPATION.ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE FRAMEWORKS? ALRIGHT, I THINK THEY SOUND GOOD.
AUSTIN, YOU WANNA CONTINUE? I CAN CONTINUE.
STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK, FIVE CORE PILLARS, ONE BEAUTIFY PUBLIC SPACES.
WELL, I'LL, UH, I'LL JUMP, I'LL HELP YOU OUT HERE.
UH, THE, THE FIVE R, AS YOU SAID, BEAUTIFY PUBLIC SPACES, ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN CITY OPERATIONS, CLEAN ENERGY AND FLEET TRANSITION, WATER, STORM WATER AND RESILIENCE, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND RECOGNITION.
SO WE COULD TAKE THOSE FIVE AND MAYBE JUST FOR THE EDITS OF THE WAY THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DOCUMENT IS LAID OUT, WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT THE FIVE OF THEM AT LIKE, AT THE TOP AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO DEFINING EACH OF THEM FROM THERE.
SO UNDER THE FIRST POINT, BEAUTIFY, UH, BEAUTIFY PUBLIC SPACES.
UH, THE CITY'S VISUAL CHARACTER IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF ITS IDENTITY, ECONOMIC VITALITY, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
OUR OBJECTIVES ARE GONNA BE IMPROVE, HIGH VISIBLE VISIBILITY, UH, CONDORS, GATEWAYS AND PUBLIC FACILITIES EXPAND USE OF NATIVE DROUGHT TOLERANT AND POLLINATOR FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING, ALIGN BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS WITH REDUCED IRRIGATION, FERTILIZATION, PESTICIDE, AND MAINTENANCE COSTS.
INITIAL ACTIONS WILL, UH, ONE, DEVELOP A CITYWIDE BEAUTIFICATION PRIORITY MAP.
TWO, IDENTIFY AND UPGRADE 10 HIGH VIS VISIBILITY PUBLIC SITES BY 2050.
AND THREE, ESTABLISH STANDARDIZED LANDSCAPE PALLETS FOR MEDIANS AND RIGHT OF WAYS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND PARKS, STORMWATER PONDS AND SHORELINE BUFFERS.
I'M GONNA DIVE IN THIS A LITTLE FURTHER, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, SO MY FIRST THOUGHTS JUST READING THIS UNDER OBJECTION, UNDER OBJECTIVES IS WE WANT TO PROBABLY DEFINE SOME OF THIS A LITTLE FURTHER, RIGHT? THIS IS A GOOD TEMPLATE TO START OFF OF, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMPROVING HIGH VISIBIL ABILITY, CORRIDORS, GATEWAYS AND PUBLIC FACILITIES, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AND WE CAN CREATE SOME EXAMPLES AND THEN IE AND ET CETERA.
WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES, BUT I'M THINKING OF THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, THE BOAT DOCKS, RIGHT? LIKE, FRONT STREET PARK IS A, PROBABLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF LIKE A PUBLIC FACING AREA THAT GETS A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS A HIGH VISIBILITY CORRIDOR.
UH, THE BRIDGES THEMSELVES ARE DOT, BUT MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIPS TO IMPROVE THOSE AS WELL.
DO WE WANT TO DEFINE SOME OF THIS A LITTLE FURTHER? SHOULD WE LEAVE IT A LITTLE BIT LOOSE? WHAT DOES THE BOARD THINK? I THINK IT'S A GOOD FRAMEWORK WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE IT'S SAYING THAT WE WANT TO USE NATIVE AND DROUGHT RESISTANT, UM, LANDSCAPING.
WHICH, UH, I'M GUESSING IS PLANTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, THE REDUCING, UH, FER, UH, FERTILIZER AND PESTICIDES IS GONNA BE GREAT FOR OUR RIVER MM-HMM
WHICH I'M SURE WE'RE ALL WORRIED ABOUT.
SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS? UM, I THINK IT'S GOOD TOO.
UH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS, UM, SHOULD THOSE AREAS BE MORE SPECIFICALLY DEFINED? 'CAUSE IT'S VERY LOOSE AND I MEAN, LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT MM-HMM
THE BRIDGES, I MEAN THE, THE NEW TERRAIN BRIDGE, BUT THERE'S ROCKS AND JUNK ALL OVER THE PLACE AROUND IT.
YOU KNOW, I BIKE HOME UHHUH FROM, SO I, I GO COULD BE BE MORE BEAUTIFUL.
UM, SO MAYBE WE ADD THAT THESE ARE, UM, A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, WHETHER THEY YEAH.
WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS BOARD WOULD THEN GO OUT AND FIND THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS.
IS THAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY? IS THAT, I THINK THAT'S ACTION NUMBER ONE.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS DOCUMENT AGAIN, IS MAKE EDITS, SEND IT TO STAFF AND THEY CAN COMPILE THOSE EDITS AND RETURN WITH THE REVISED VERSION IN THE FUTURE ONCE WE GET THERE.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY ON NUMBER TWO FOR EXPAND USE OF NATIVE DROUGHT TOLERANT, POLLINATOR FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING WOULD BE TO GIVE EXAMPLES OF SPARTINA GRASSES, CTES, COCOA PLUMS. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT WORLD KNOW THOSE PLANTS, BUT IF THERE IS A RESIDENT THAT IS READING THIS THAT WANTS TO KNOW THOSE THINGS, A SERIES OF LINKS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IFIS EXTENSION PAGE, UH, VAR, BEAUTIFUL OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF
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EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT ARE SIMILAR, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE.SO I THINK MAYBE UNDER EACH BULLET WE CAN HAVE EXAMPLES.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PUT FORWARD TO EXAMPLE.
HAVING EXAMPLES WOULD BE REALLY GOOD.
SO EXAMPLES, SO ADD EXAMPLES, UH, AND I'LL, I'LL COME BACK AND MAKE SOME EDITS AND SEND 'EM TO STAFF AND PLEASE EVERYBODY DO THE SAME.
UM, THE PRIORITY MAP, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UM, I WANTED TO ASK THE FIVE OF US SITTING HERE, WHICH SECTION DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF TAKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE LOOKED AT A MAP OF MELBOURNE, IS THERE AN AREA THAT YOU'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THAT YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE MORE INCLINED TO KIND OF BE BOOTS ON THE GROUND? BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I SEE A CITYWIDE BEAUTIFICATION PRIORITY MAP BEING DEVELOPED IS PUBLIC INPUT.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY CAN EITHER EMAIL OR COME TO THESE MEETINGS OR, OR, OR BE INFORMED AT EVENTS AND THEN RESPOND BACK THROUGH SURVEYS OR DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT ALSO, THINKING BACK TO MY TIME WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION BOARD AT THE CITY OF SATELLITE BEACH, THE MEMBERS WERE THE CHAMPIONS OF WHAT WAS THE YARD OF THE MONTH.
AND THEY WOULD DRIVE AROUND AND THEY EACH HAD THEIR OWN LITTLE SECTION AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THIS IS THE, IN MY SECTION IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL YARD, AND, AND I'M GONNA SUBMIT THIS ONE.
AND EVERYBODY SUBMITTED THEIR OWN KIND OF JUST LIKE, THIS PROGRAM HERE.
IT'S KIND OF JUST LIKE THIS, RIGHT? SO, UH, IF WE HAD SECTIONS, LIKE FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I SPEND MOST OF MY, UH, MELBOURNE TIME FROM O GALLEY TO PINE, WELL, I GUESS THE, IT'S AT THE INDIAN RIVER SHORES, RIGHT? WHERE, WHERE KIND OF MELBOURNE MEETS THERE.
SO THAT NORTHERN SECTION, UH, UP INTO, I GUESS WICKHAM, MAYBE I COULD GO TO 95.
I GUESS WE COULD KIND OF DRAW IT OUT.
MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER EXERCISE FOR ANOTHER DAY.
UM, BUT THEN WE HAD SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE, AS WE KINDA DISCUSSED, LIKE, WHICH, WHICH TERRITORY DO YOU KIND OF WANNA LOOK AT? BECAUSE MAYBE THERE'S A, A STORM WATER POND OR A TRAIN IN, IN YOUR AREA, OR EVEN NOT YOUR AREA, BUT PREDOMINANTLY AN AREA THAT YOU CHAMPION AND YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS COULD REALLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BEAUTIFUL.
I'LL BRING IT TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AND WE CAN KIND OF HAVE A, A RUNNING LIST.
AND THEN WE GIVE IT TO THE GIS GUYS AND THEY MAKE LAYERS AND THEY DROP IT IN AND THEY GO, THIS GIS LAYER IS FOR VEGETATIVE IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS GIS LATER IS FOR HYDROLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS AND AESTHETIC.
OR, OR, OR MAYBE EVEN ENGINEERING IMPROVEMENTS OF SOME SORT FOR, FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I SEE THAT, THAT MAP GROWING TO, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
W WOULD THE STAFF OR CITY MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD VERSUS THE BOARD MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STAFF? MEGAN, I GUESS I'M, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL COULD GIVE? I MEAN, THERE AREAS THAT THE CITY, YOU PROBABLY YOURSELF WOULD MAYBE HAVE, THIS IS A PRIORITY WHERE THERE'S SOME ISSUES WE HAVE AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EFFORTS OF THE BOARD WE COULD OR HELP EACH OTHER OUT BETTER, VERSUS US JUST COMING TO THE CITY SAYING, I FOUND A SECTION, AND, UM, IDENTIFY THE LOCATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE MORE FLOODING OR, OR NEED SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENT.
AND THEN ASK THE BOARD TO HELP MAYBE FIND GRANTS OR, YOU KNOW, AND VOLUNTEERING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I'M SURE THE CITY HAS A BUDGET FOR, FOR BEAUTIFICATION TOO, TOO, I WOULD THINK.
WE RELY ON GRANTS, UH, FOR THAT BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE IS WHAT COSTS THE MOST AND IT'S THE MOST STAFF TIME.
SO IF YOU HAVE A GRANT AND YOU HAVE A VOLUNTEER BASE THAT CAN, UH, MAINTAIN THE AREA, LIKE BREVARD ZOO HAS THE, THAT BEHIND THE, UH, THE LIBRARY.
LIKE IT HAS, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF, UM, AGREEMENT PARTICIPATION BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE STAFF TO GO AND PULL WEED.
THAT'S WHY IT'S, AND THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS.
SO GARDEN CLUBS, DELUCCIA WATERWAY, WARRIORS COMES TO MIND.
SURF RIDER, WE DID SURF RIDER PLANTINGS IN, UM, BALLARD PARK.
UM, SO WE RELY ON THEM TO MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE OUR PARKS IS NOT GOING TO, WELL, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD FUNCTION, UNFORTUNATELY.
I MEAN, WE GOTTA DEAL WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
SO, CAN I INTERJECT HERE PLEASE, STEVE? YEAH.
UM, WELL, I, I WROTE UP A LITTLE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO SORT OF OUTLINE THE WAY, UH, I'M COMING AT IT, AT, AT MY PARTICIPATION HERE.
UM, HOPING TO SPEARHEAD CHANGES TO OUR LOCAL ORDINANCES, UH, PRACTICES AND ENFORCEMENT PERTAINING TO LITTER LIGHT POLLUTION, THE IRL, UH, DEVELOPMENT
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TREE AND PALM CARE, OUR HOMELESSNESS CRISIS, UH, AS WELL AS MEETING THE 2035 OR 2045 NOW GOAL OF, I, I CALLED IT CARBON NEUTRALITY.UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE USING THE TERM SUSTAINABILITY, BUT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WITH THE GEM PROGRAM AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHEN I WAS READING THE, UH, MINUTES FROM THE LAST YEAR, I, I MAY HAVE NOT GOTTEN A FULL GRASP OF HOW THIS, UH, THESE AWARDS ARE AWARDED AND COME ABOUT.
UM, SORT OF SEEMED LIKE KIND OF A CLUB, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE THIS PERSON THIS AWARD.
THE GREEN GABLES GETS THIS AWARD.
AND LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DISCUSSION THERE WAS OR OTHER, UH, TO ME, THIS PROGRAM SHOULD BE, UH, A MEANS OF, UH, EDUCATING YES.
AND, UH, STANDARDIZING PRACTICES ACROSS THE CITY AND, AND MAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OWNERS PONDS OR OR WHATNOT, AWARE OF THESE BEST PRACTICES.
AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE NOMINATIONS COME FORTH OUT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, SPREADING THAT EDUCATION FAR AND WIDE VERSUS LIKE, OH, LET'S HAND THIS AWARD TO SOMEBODY.
WE GOTTA PUT A SIGN SOMEWHERE.
UM, SO I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT HERE IS, IS THAT, UM, THESE SORT OF PET PROJECTS, YOU'RE KIND OF, UH, FRAMING IT AS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'M IN THE OGA AREA TOO, AND THERE'S LOTS OF AREAS THAT ARE SORT OF BLIGHTED IN THE CITY THAT SHOULD MAYBE TAKE PRECEDENT IN THESE CONSIDERATIONS, BUT, UM, ADDRESSING CERTAIN ORDINANCES I THINK WOULD GO A LONG WAY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS LITTLE TINY AREA.
I THINK WITH THAT IN MIND, I JUST WANT TO CHECK WITH STAFF.
OUR ROLE IS AN ADVISORY BOARD, RIGHT? SO WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IF THERE'S A CODE CHANGE, UM, I KNOW I'VE SEEN IN DIFFERENT CITIES, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT MELBOURNE THOROUGHLY ENOUGH, BUT I'VE SEEN CODES THAT SAY THINGS LIKE, UH, A NEW EXISTING HOMEOWNER HAS TO HAVE X LANDSCAPE AND IT NEEDS TO BE SUCH AND SUCH.
UM, BUT THE WAY THAT THEY WORD IT, IT'S ONLY APPLICABLE TO PEOPLE LIKE MOVING IN NOW, BUT GRANDFATHERED IN.
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO APPLY THE SAME RULES AS THE NEW PEOPLE DO BECAUSE THEY EXISTED BEFORE THE CODE WAS WRITTEN.
SO THERE'S LIKE LOOPHOLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND CLOSING, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE MORE EFFECTIVE ON THAT SCALE THAT YOU'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IS THAT FAIR? WELL, YEAH.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS LIKE NEW DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE GOTTA END CLEAR CUTTING AS A PRACTICE, RIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE A HISTORIC TREE ON SITE, YOU CAN'T JUST, WELL, NOT ONLY HISTORIC, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, JUST DON'T JUST KILL EVERYTHING ON THE PROPERTY TO, YOU KNOW, FRAME IT HOW YOU WANT IT.
WHAT'S YOUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN? PRESERVE SOME OF THE QUALITY OF THE LANDSCAPE THAT EXISTS.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA WORK WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, IN HAWAII WE CALL IT THE INA YOU KNOW, IT HAS SORT OF A MORE SACRED, UH, CONNOTATION FRAMED THAT WAY.
BUT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN, IN MELBOURNE BECAUSE RIGHT BEHIND OUR RETENTION POND ON THE WEST END, GOING UP THROUGH DAIRY ROAD, THEY CLEAR CUT THIS HUGE AREA OF BEAUTIFUL PINE TREES AND IT WAS JUST, AND THERE'S A BIG PAD THERE,
SO MAYBE A INCENTIVE FOR REDEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF COMPLETELY CLEAR CUTTING AND DESTROYING OUR BEAUTIFUL WILD NATURE THAT WE, WE MM-HMM
I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF INCENTIVIZATION.
UM, I'M IN AGREEMENT ALSO WITH, WITH YOU, STEVE, ON MORE EDUCATION.
I MEAN, I THINK AWARDS ARE FINE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE, IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR EDUCATION.
EDUCATION IN MY OPINION, IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR GETTING PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THE BEAUTIFICATION NECESSARY TO CREATE GOOD SUSTAINABILITY.
THE AWARD IS AN INCENTIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO A, A A JUST A PROPONENT, A A A PARTICULAR COMPONENT OF THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM THAT SHOULD BE TAKING PLACE.
UH, ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON THAT? I THINK THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE IF YOU ALREADY HAVE TREES ON SITE, WE DON'T NEED TO INCENTIVIZE YOU TO CUT 'EM AND THEN PLANT THEM.
JUST KEEP THE ONES YOU GOT, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO.
NUMBER TWO, ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN CITY OPERATIONS.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA TAKE THIS ONE OR
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I'LL DO IT.UH, ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN CITY OPERATIONS.
ENERGY EFFICIENCY REPRESENTS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND IMMEDIATE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE MUNICIPAL EXPENSES AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OBJECTIVES.
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION ACROSS MUNICIPAL FACILITIES.
PRIORITIZE INVESTMENTS WITH STRONG FINANCIAL RETURN, ESTABLISH A LONG-TERM EFFICIENCY CAPITAL PLAN.
UM, INITIAL ACTIONS, CONDUCT OR UPDATE A CITYWIDE ENERGY BASE LINE ASSESSMENT.
UH, IDENTIFY THE TOP FIVE FACILITIES FOR EFFICIENCY UPGRADES.
IMPLEMENT TARGETED IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS HVAC OPTIMIZATION, UH, LED LIGHTING, UH, RETRO FITS, SMART CONTROLS AND SCHEDULING, BUILDING AND ENVELOPE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THE TARGET SAYS TO REDUCE MUNICIPAL ENERGY INTENSITY 15% BY 2045.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SPEAK ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE HAVE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF THIS AND, AND WAIT ON, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO HELP ME A LITTLE BIT THE, THE OBJECTIVES TO ESTABLISH A LONG-TERM EFFICIENCY CAPITAL PLAN.
DO WE HAVE SOMETHING ALREADY FROM THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEMBERS ACTIONS THAT, THAT MIGHT SATISFY THAT AND STAFF FEEL FREE TO ALSO HELP? UH, YEAH, THERE'S A STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN MM-HMM
THAT I THINK I EMAILED EVERY, WELL, MOST OF YOU, UH, A WHILE BACK, BUT I CAN EMAIL IT AGAIN.
BUT BASICALLY, UM, IT'S, IT WAS THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN.
UM, AND THERE'S TRACKING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, BUT, UM, I KIND OF STOPPED IN 2023.
UM, BUT I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE YOU WANNA CONTINUE DOING THAT.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER BULLET IF WE ALREADY HAVE CONTINUE THE STRATEGIC.
AND YOU CAN ALWAYS EVOLVE IT AND MM-HMM
IT'S BUILDING AND THEN IT'LL ALLOW EVERYBODY KIND OF DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT'S BEEN THERE.
THEY WEREN'T AS KNOWLEDGEABLE.
I'LL GIVE THAT A REREAD MYSELF.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL STRIKE THROUGH THE ESTABLISHED LONG-TERM ENERGY EFFICIENCY PLAN AND REPLACE IT WITH CONTINUE THE BEAUTIFICATION ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD, STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN STRIKE WHICH ONE, SORRY.
UH, UNDER OBJECTIONS ON NUMBER TWO, UNDER OBJECTIVES, BULLET NUMBER THREE, ESTABLISH A LONG-TERM EFFICIENCY CAPITAL PLAN.
I THINK THE STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN IS THE SAME KIND OF CONCEPT.
IS ALL ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT? JUST TO BY CONSENT, AYE.
UM, AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT LAST BULLET.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE INITIAL ACTIONS.
UM, THE CITYWIDE ENERGY BASELINE ASSESSMENT.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF CONTINUING OR MAYBE USING THAT PLAN TO CONDUCT THE, THE ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE'RE AT IS HOW OFTEN IS AN ASSESSMENT LIKE THAT VALUABLE? IS IT ONCE EVERY YEAR, EVERY FIVE YEARS? UM, I THINK THEY WERE DOING IT EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND SINCE I THINK THERE'S WAYS TOO TO, TO MAYBE DO LIKE A BROADER REVIEW EVERY FIVE YEARS, BUT MAYBE DO SOME TYPE OF BENCHMARK OR, UH, I THINK WAY TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT, EVEN EVEN LOOK AT IT QUARTERLY OR MONTH, OR SORRY, QUARTERLY OR LIKE SEMI-ANNUALLY TO TOPICALLY THE GOAL IS TO KIND OF KEEP IT AS A TOUCHPOINT AS YOU'RE GOING ON.
NOT JUST ESTABLISHING SOMETHING AND THEN ONLY LOOKING AT IT.
I MEAN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO GET ALL THE POWER BILLS FOR THE, THE CITY, UM, BUT I AT MCCANN, BUT I GUESS THAT'S A PLACE TO START.
UH, I ONCE SAT IN A BOARD CALLED THE WISER BOARD FOR THE COUNTY AND WHICH BRUCE LINDSAY WAS ON AND WE POURED OVER EVERYTHING AND WE HAD THE FLORIDA SOLAR ENERGY CENTER COME IN AND, AND GIVE TALKS.
AND THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TOO, TO TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE IS HAVING SPEAKERS, UH, BECAUSE LIKE WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WITH A LOT OF GREAT KNOWLEDGE.
AND OUR JOB IS KIND OF TO FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION, UH, BETWEEN THOSE FOLKS AND, UH, AND, AND THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS TOPIC.
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UPDATE.I HAVE THE, UH, STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN TIMELINE UP.
LET ME GOTTA, SO NOW WE CAN REFRAME THAT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE REVIEW THE PLAN.
I'LL SEND THIS OUT TO EVERYBODY SO YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT THE ORIGINAL BEEB, UM, BOARD WAS WORKING ON AND WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED.
UM, WHAT'D THEY CALL IT, MEGAN? THE STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN.
BRUCE LINDSAY WAS HEADING THIS AND THEN THE REVIEW WAS EVERY FIVE YEARS.
'CAUSE I, UM, I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE OUR, IT'S BECAUSE OUR BIG BUDGETS ARE EVERY FIVE YEARS AND THEN THE, THE SOLAR TOGETHER WAS EVERY FIVE YEARS TOO.
AND THE SOLAR TOGETHER WAS FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS.
SO YEAH, THERE'S, THEY TRIED TO HIRE AN ENERGY MANAGER THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
SO WE DID HAVE ONE FOR A VERY SMALL TIME.
AND THEN THEY DECIDED IT WASN'T COST EFFECTIVE.
LIKE THE WASN'T, CITY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS COST EFFECTIVE.
SO THERE'S OTHER, BUT THERE'S OTHER, WHAT'S THE GREEN VERSUS THE YELLOW MAIN? I'M SEEING GREEN BOXES AND YELLOW BOXES.
UM, I THINK IN THE VERY TOP, UH, IT SAYS GOOD.
YOU SEE THE TOP BAR TO THE, TO YOUR RIGHT.
WELL, THOSE ARE THE OTHER, I THINK GREEN MEANT COMPLETED.
'CAUSE THOSE ARE THE STOPS BECAUSE WE DID DO ALL STREET, WE DID CONVERT ALL STREET LIGHTS TO LED.
SO THEN COMPLETED AND THEN CONTINUE.
BUT, BUT NOT IN THAT DIDN'T LAST, SO.
SIGN UP FOR FPL WHEN AVAILABLE.
AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT IT LOOKS LIKE, FOR 20 YEARS.
WHAT DOES ELECTRIC VEHICLES COMPLETED MEAN? THERE WAS AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, UM, PURCHASED, UH, FOR CODE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ONE ANYMORE 'CAUSE THE BATTERY LIFE DIED AND THEY JUST DECIDED TO GET A HYBRID.
UM, BUT I GUESS THEY WANT, THEY HAD GOTTEN THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND WANTED TO CONTINUE.
BUT, UM, I WANNA RECOMMEND ALSO UNDER THE THIRD BULLET UNDER INITIAL ACTIONS INSTEAD OF IMPLEMENT TARGETED IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE AN ADVISORY BOARD, SO RECOMMEND YEAH, WE GOTTA STAY IN OUR LANE, SO WE'LL RECOMMEND THOSE.
AND THEN UNDER THE LAST BULLET, REDUCE MUNICIPAL ENERGY, USE INTENSELY INTENSITY BY 15%.
UM, I JUST, I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH UNACHIEVABLE GOALS OF THIS NATURE.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, WE CAN RECOMMEND THESE THINGS.
OUR TAR, IT COULD BE OUR TARGET, I GUESS.
I MEAN, HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT THESE? I MEAN, JUST THE QUESTION TOO IS LIKE, WHAT DOES, LIKE IF YOU SAID THIS, YOU WENT TO CITY COUNCIL, THEY WOULD SAY, WELL, WHAT, WHAT IS OUR ENERGY USE? THEY'D BE LIKE, WHAT IS THE PER, WHAT IS THE PERCENT AGAINST WHAT, LIKE, TRYING TO QUANTIFY IT FOR, FOR FOLKS TO MM-HMM
IT'S ALMOST LIKE FOR, I MEAN, IT'S HARD, BUT IT'S LIKE IF YOU, HEY, IF YOU GOT A COUPLE EVS, YOU COULD REDUCE TRYING TO TIE IT AWAY THAT YOU GET MORE FOR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, THERE'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE SAYING SOMETHING, SAYING THE SAME THING OR SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY.
BUT IT'S THE SAME GOAL BECAUSE YOU'RE COMMUNICATING TO AN AUDIENCE THAT MAY UNFORTUNATELY NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT THAT TRUE IMPACT IS.
WHAT IS ENERGY USE INTENSITY ANYWAY.
I IS IT, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A FAIR FAIR'S PROBABLY REALLY INTENSELY USING THAT ENERGY.
GET RID OF THE WORD INTENSITY.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S NEEDED.
I WAS WONDERING, UM, JUST IN REDUCE MUNICIPAL ENERGY USE SQUARE FEASIBLE, CAN WE JUST START THERE? YOU KNOW, IS THAT LIKE A RATIO OF ENERGY USE PER SQUARE FOOT OF BUILDING, OR I GUESS THAT WOULD BE INTENSITY WOULD BE THE PER SQUARE FOOT OF BUILDING YEAH.
SQUARE FOOT FOR ACREAGE OF PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.
BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT, WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING? YEAH.
AND YOU KNOW, YOUR, THE PROPERTY YOU'RE MAINTAINING, DID IT EXPAND OR MM-HMM
IS IT REDUCED OR, SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE THE INTENSITY PART COMES IN, BUT MM-HMM
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UM, THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING STUDY BECAUSE IT'S ALL RELATIVE, RIGHT? YEAH.I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE DECIDE ON WHAT PERCENTAGE WE WANNA REDUCE BY.
WE'D HAVE TO KNOW A BASELINE AND WHAT'S FEASIBLE.
SO THAT, THAT'S KIND WHERE I'M AT.
LIKE, I'M, I'M HESITANT TO SUGGEST A A PERCENTAGE HARD NUMBER.
A HARD NUMBER UNTIL I KNOW WHERE WE'RE OPERATING AT.
SO MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF TABLE THAT.
REDUCE MUNICIPAL ENERGY USE TO REDUCE MUNICIPAL ENERGY USE WHERE FEASIBLE.
WELL, IT SEEMS A LITTLE REDUNDANT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE IT, RIGHT? 45 GOAL.
SO, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF A HUNDRED PERCENT IS EVEN ACHIEVABLE, BUT I MEAN,
WITH THAT IN MIND THEN, 'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS OUR PLAN TO THEN PROPOSE CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY IN REGARDS TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CITY OPERATIONS.
SO THE TARGET OF THIS WOULD BE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS USING METRICS AND DATA THAT WE GATHER.
SO HOW DO, HOW DO WE KIND OF WORD THAT IN A WAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING A REAL RECOMMENDATION OFF OF REAL DATA TO REDUCE ENERGY, TO REDUCE ENERGY USE.
UM, DON'T PUT, YEAH, PUTTING A DATE ON IT REALLY IS HARD TOO.
UM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO REDUCE, I AGREE WITH NOT PUTTING A PERCENTAGE OR A DATE BECAUSE I THINK ENERGY RE UH, EFFICIENT, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKING ENERGY LESS AND LESS, YOU KNOW, USE OF ENERGY IS, IS A CONTINUAL THING.
UNTIL YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, ZERO CARBON, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S SOLAR OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A CONTINUAL, I'M SORRY.
HAVE WE, UH, EVER DONE SUCH A BASELINE STUDY AS FAR AS LIKE THE AREAS THAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND, UH, ENERGY USE OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS? YOU KNOW, GRAPHICALLY, WHATEVER.
UM, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT AND GET BACK WITH YOU.
I GUESS WE COULD KIND OF TABLE THAT.
IT MIGHT BE IN THE STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN, WHICH I WILL SEND TO YOU.
IT SAYS, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE SPENT 2,707,752 ON ELECTRIC, 35,374,926 KILOWATTS OF ENERGY KILOWATTS PER HOUR OF ENERGY.
THIS IS ALL IN 2022 AND OR 2021 AND PURCHASED 361,652 GALLONS OF FUEL AND DIESEL COSTING OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN FISCAL YEAR 2021.
SO WE CAN GET THE NUMBERS FOR, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS YEARS MM-HMM
OF HOW MUCH ENERGY WAS USED AND HOW MUCH IT COSTS.
WHAT YEAR WAS THAT DONE IN? WAS THAT ONE YEAR OR WAS THAT A TRACK OF YOURS? WAS THAT 21 TO 25? THE STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO GO FROM 2021 TO 2025.
I THINK THIS WAS IN 2020 2ND OF JULY IT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT IT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS 2022 IS WHEN IT WAS UPDATED.
SO IS THAT, ARE THOSE FIGURES FOR FIVE YEARS OR FOR ONE YEAR.
SO MAYBE OUR TARGET IS THAT WE SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THEN, IF WE DO ANOTHER ONE OF THESE REPORTS.
SO OUR TARGET IS TO CREATE A REPORT THEN.
SO CREATE UPDATED, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND UPDATE STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN.
IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE BIT, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING GOOD, GOOD IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, I'LL, UH, ANYBODY WANNA TAKE NUMBER THREE? I'LL DO IT.
GRAB ON CLEAN, CLEAN ENERGY AND FLEET TRANSITION.
MELBOURNE SHOULD PURSUE CLEAN ENERGY GOALS THROUGH REAL ESTATE PHASED FINANCIAL RESPONSIBLE APPROACH OBJECTIVES, TRANSITION MUNICIPAL FLEET AND INFRASTRUCTURE TOWARD CLEANER ENERGY SOURCES, EXPAND EV READINESS OR PRACTICAL ALIGN LONG-TERM GOALS WITH PROCUREMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE REALITIES, INITIAL ACTIONS, DEVELOP A FLEET TRANSITION AND CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, PRIORITIZE EV ADOPTION FOR LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES WITH SUITABLE USE PATTERNS, UTILIZE HYBRID OR ALTERNATIVE FUELS WHERE EVS ARE NOT YET VIABLE.
WAIT, I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS.
I MEAN, IT'S MORE JUST INDIRECTLY,
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BUT I MEAN, I KIND OF, I GRABBED ONTO THIS TOWARDS THE END OF THE, THE LAST, UH, TENURE.UM, IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING.
I THINK ONE THING THAT, THAT THAT'S MOST INTERESTING TO ME IS DUAL USE VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FLEETS, WHERE IF YOU STUDIED SOME OF THESE EVS WHERE THEY HAVE LIKE TRUCKS THAT DO THAT CAN ACTUALLY BECOME GENERATORS.
IT'S ALMOST A TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO GET THE CITY LIKE EXCITED ABOUT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE INDIRECTLY IT'S LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE USING A HYBRID VEHICLE, BUT THIS THING'S ACTUALLY WAY BETTER THAN MY RIGHT TRUCK.
MY F TWO 50 GASSER, THAT'S MM-HMM
THAT'S GOING AROUND TOWN AND I HAVE A BETTER SET OF TOOLS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, MAYBE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO IS, IS BUILDING A BETTER TOOL SET FOR THE CITY THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY, UH, HITS THE, THE GOALS, UM, THAT GOES TOWARDS RESILIENCY TOO.
BEING SMARTER WITH, WITH WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU HAVE.
AND IT'S, UH, TO ME THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING, UM, BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE WE DISCUSSED WITH MEGAN AND IN THE GROUP IN THE PAST, IS YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT, IT'S ALWAYS THIS, THIS BENCHMARKS LIKE HOW MANY CHARGING STATIONS DO WE HAVE OR THAT LIMITS US, OR, UH, I MEAN, FOR SOMEBODY TO RUN AROUND IN A PRIUS FOR THE CITY TO DO INSPECTIONS, IT'S PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE A, SOMEBODY CONVERTING AN F FOUR 50 OVER TO A RIGHT.
A WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE USEFUL FOR, UH, ADOPTION ACROSS OTHER, OTHER AREAS.
UH, SO THAT'D BE SOMETHING NEAT TO EXPLORE, BECAUSE EITHER WAY IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE, I MEAN, I THINK YOU WANT TO TRY TO GET OUT OF THE, YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO THE PAYBACK PERIOD.
YOU, YOU WANT TO GO OUT MUCH LONGER INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THESE AGGRESSIVE PAYBACK PERIODS FOR, FOR AN EV THAT IS REALLY NOT, THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE UTILITY OTHER THAN SOME TYPE OF, UH, METRIC THAT YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO SET.
UM, SO QUICKER, ROIA QUICKER RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE FLEET VEHICLES THAT HAVE MORE SAY, DUAL OR TRIPLE PURPOSE COULD HAVE A BETTER RETURN ON INVESTMENT IF WE LOOKED INTO IT.
AND, UH, DAN, DANNY FRENCH IS OUR FLEET SUPERINTENDENT, AND HE'S BEEN VERY PROACTIVE WITH, UH, TRANSITIONING A LOT OF THE FLEET TO HYBRID, MOSTLY MAVERICKS.
UH, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A FORD ELECTRIC COMING OUT, UH, 2027 THAT'S MORE AFFORDABLE.
AND THEY DID RECEIVE GRANTS FROM LIKE, FEDERAL GRANTS FOR CHARGING STATIONS AND, UH, EVS.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WAS PUT ON HOLD.
UH, SO WE'RE JUST, UH, WAITING TO HEAR IF THOSE ARE GONNA BE RELEASED OR NOT.
SO THAT WAS QUESTION HOLDING US BACK.
THESE CHARGING STATIONS ARE ACTUALLY PROFITABLE, RIGHT? THEY'RE, UH, GENERATING INCOME FOR THE CITY.
IT COULD, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK ON THAT TOO A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I, I, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S CURRENT, BUT I KNOW ZACH KELS IN CAPE CANAVERAL, WHO'S WORKED ON A LOT OF THIS.
I SPOKE TO HIM IN THE PAST, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S CURRENT.
THE CITY WILL SOMETIMES NOT CHARGE PEOPLE TO USE THEIR CHARGING STATIONS IF IT'S CITY OWNED MUNICIPAL, WHERE IF IT'S A THIRD PARTY, LIKE A SMART CHARGE THERE, THEY WILL CHARGE.
BECAUSE AT LEAST THIS IS WHAT I FOUND PREVIOUSLY IN, IN STUDIES THAT I DID, WHERE THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE OPERATIONAL SOFTWARE AND AND STAFF TO HAVE A FEE PROGRAM FOR USING A CHARGING STATION WAS ACTUALLY MORE THAN JUST GIVING AWAY THE ENERGY TO JUST PEOPLE THAT 'CAUSE THE, 'CAUSE THE RATE OF USAGE WASN'T REALLY THAT HIGH, THAT YOU WEREN'T HAVING PEOPLE.
EVEN IF THERE WAS, ISN'T IT MORE, ISN'T IT MORE THAT, THAT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, IT IT THAT THE, THE BENEFIT'S GREATER, MORE CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT.
I'VE HEARD PEOPLE THAT USE, THEORETICALLY YOU COULD USE YOUR CAR TO CHARGE YOUR HOUSE, OR MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OUT THERE, BUT
I MEAN, IT'S IN A HURRICANE SITUATION, MAYBE IT'D GREAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THAT THE MONETARY GAIN IS SO GREAT.
I THOUGHT I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THE, WELL, THERE'S A CHARGING SEVERAL CHARGERS AT ALI PUBLIC LIBRARY.
ARE THOSE PAID TO PLAY? THAT'S, YEAH.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I READ THAT THERE WAS A OKAY.
SO I MIGHT HAVE READ IT WRONG.
I YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT WHEN CHARGERS ARE PUT IN, THEN THE FEE IS PAID BY THE CHARGING COMPANY THAT IS PUTTING IT IN TO EITHER LEASE THE, THE AREA OR WHATEVER.
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WHAT I THOUGHT.THE CHARGERS WE HAVE, UM, I BELIEVE WERE FUNDED PARTLY BY FPL OR SOME SORT OF, UH, GRANT THAT WE GOT FROM THEM.
WELL, I KNOW THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS LIKE, IT WAS NOT, WAS IN IT KIND OF DEEP AT THE O GALLEY ONE.
IT WAS NOT WORKING FOR A WHILE, AND THEN THEY GOT WORKING.
AND THEN THIS ONE OVER HERE AT CITY HALL WASN'T WORKING, BUT IT'S BACK WORKING.
SO, AND THIS MAY BE A, A REAL POINT OF PARTICULAR LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK THE MORE THAT I LOOK AT IT, I DON'T LIKE THE WORD CLEAN ENERGY.
NO, IT'S TOO, BECAUSE WHAT IS CLEAN ENERGY, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, TO MINE IT'S THE, THE, THE MATERIALS TO CREATE THE BATTERY IN ANOTHER COUNTRY TO SHIP IT OVER.
IS IT NOT EVEN MORE SHIP, IT'S CLEAN TO JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHERE WHERE IS CLEAN? YEAH.
IT'S, WELL, I THINK IT'S, IT'S LIKE A, TO ME IT FEELS LIKE 2010 LANGUAGE.
RIGHT? I FEEL LIKE THAT'S, WE COULD TAKE THAT ONE.
UH, I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, I, 'CAUSE I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BATTLES OF THIS, OF CLEAN ENERGY AND I, I WOULD SAY IT'S, I MAY, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK INTO ALTERNATIVE ENERGY EFFICIENT
WELL, I MEAN, BECAUSE THE, THE ARGUMENT SOMEONE'S GONNA SAY, THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, ALL THAT BATTERY, ALL THAT ENERGY.
RIGHT? UM, I, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS TO LOOK AT IS IT'S, IS IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY OUT OF THE CYCLE OR THE LOOP OF, BECAUSE BATTERIES CAN BE RECYCLED.
LIKE THERE'S WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT TAKING, MAYBE IT TAKES A LOT OF, I MEAN THIS IS PROBABLY TMI FOR THIS, BUT IT'S, BATTERIES CAN TAKES ENERGY TO PRODUCE A BATTERY.
RIGHT? BUT ONCE YOU ARE IN THAT LOOP, AND THEN IF YOU GO INTO THE CYCLE WHERE THEN PERHAPS BAT, 'CAUSE BATTERIES HAVE A VERY LONG SHELF LIFE, BEERS OR SO, AND THEY EVEN GO LONGER, THERE'S A LOT OF MISS IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO REFURBISH BATTERIES.
BUT, UM, BUT THEN YOU GET OUT OF THAT, THAT CARBON GETS OUT OF THAT, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING BACK TO MINING OR, OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THOSE MATERIALS.
EVENTUALLY YOU CAN GET OUT OF THAT CYCLE.
I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY CLEANER IS NOT THE, I WOULD SAY THAT TRANSITION THE MUNICIPAL FLEET INFRASTRUCTURE TOWARDS SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF LIKE INNOVATIVE, LIKE, BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION IT TOWARDS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT IN A WAY THAT RESILIENT, I MEAN, I, I GO CARBON NEUTRALITY IS MY GO-TO.
I MEAN, THAT'S TECHNICALLY WHAT IT WOULD, I MEAN, IF YOUR GOAL IS TO GET IT, IF YOUR GOAL IS TO, TO REMOVE THE, THE NEED TO KEEP EXTRACTING RIGHT.
FUEL OR, OR OIL AND, AND GO AND, AND FIND A WAY TO BRING IT INTO A DIFFERENT CIRCULAR TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.
CIRCULAR, CIRCULAR ENERGY ECONOMY.
WELL, THAT'S A BIG, I MEAN, THAT IS, THAT IS ACTUALLY SO SOMETHING.
I MEAN, IT'S VERY MUCH HAPPENING.
UM, SO IT'D BE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY THEN.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M LIKE A TRANSITION TOWARDS A CIRCULAR ENERGY ECONOMY OR, OR SOURCE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY ECONOMY.
I MEAN, THERE'S MEAN, WE'RE INVOLVED IN FOLKS THAT ARE RECYCLING END OF BLACK PRODUCT.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THE, I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE THE IDEA IS TO USE RESOURCES BETTER, AND THEN ONCE THOSE RESOURCES ARE CONSUMED, DO BETTER WITH WHATEVER'S LEFT.
KIND LIKE PLUTONIUM, 80% ROD YOU CAN STILL USE.
SO WHAT WERE YOU SAYING TOWARDS, UH, TRANSITION TOWARDS A CIRCULAR ENERGY ECONOMY FOR, UH, CITY FLEET? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? CERTAINLY.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAN CLEAN.
IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL, I, I KEPT LOOKING AT THAT, UH, COMMENT, CLEAN THAT WORD, CLEAN ENERGY WAS AN ISSUE, WAS A LOT THE PAST I COULD SEE IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE A FIRST, IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST GENERATION OF MOVING DOWN THAT PATH, RIGHT? AND THEN, I MEAN, EVOLVED.
AND THEY WERE HAVING A HARD TIME DEFINING CLEAN, THEY SHOULD HAVE SAID CLEANER, CLEANER, ALL BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY CLEAN, RIGHT? MM-HMM
IT'S, IT'S A, I MEAN, IT'S A BIG THING.
'CAUSE I, SO WE, WE MAKE PERMANENT MAGNETS AND THERE'S, I MEAN, WE HAVE SUPPLY CHAINS THAT ARE USING RECYCLED.
SO YOU'RE TAKING END OF LIFE PRODUCTS AND INSTEAD OF JUST MELTING EVERYTHING DOWN AND MELTING IT, YOU PULLING OUT THINGS AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABLE TO REPURPOSE AND REUSE.
AND I MEAN, IT'S A BIG THING BECAUSE THERE'S, THAT HAS A FINITE SOURCE.
BUT AS YOU START USING MORE PRODUCTS THAT HAVE,
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LIKE MOTORS BY EXAMPLE, YOU CAN START TO PUT THOSE INTO THAT WORLD.IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S LIKE CREATING THAT.
I MEAN, I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT BATTERIES RECENTLY IN THE LAST YEAR.
I WAS TALKING TO THE CEO OF A MOTOR COMPANY, AND HE WAS EXPLAINING HOW IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT'S EVEN A USED ELECTRIC VEHICLE IS SO USEFUL.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT AS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LOBBYISTS OUT THERE AND THERE'S VARIOUS FACTORS THAT DETER PEOPLE FROM UNDERSTANDING THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS LEADING TO, IS LIKE, IT'S, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAXIMIZE SO MUCH MORE OUT OF THAT INITIAL INVESTMENT OR INITIAL, LET'S CALL IT ENERGY THAT WENT INTO IT.
AND IT'S, I MEAN, CAN LAST FOR DECADES.
SO IT'S LEARNING, IT'S, IT'S A TRANSITIONARY THING.
THAT YOU, THAT THE LANGUAGE IS GOOD.
I THINK ALSO TO, TO YOUR POINT STEVE ON THE, THE, ON THE, THE PHRASING BENEATH THAT MELBOURNE SHOULD PURSUE, AGAIN, NOT CLEAN, BUT MAYBE RESILIENT ENERGY GOALS.
'CAUSE WE, WE WANNA BE RESILIENT.
BEING RESILIENT IS BEING SUSTAINABLE.
THOSE TWO THINGS KINDA WORK TOGETHER THERE.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVE ONLY SO MUCH TIME.
I DON'T WANNA TAKE STAFF'S WHOLE DAY UP.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UH, AGAIN, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE BRING THEM TO STAFF.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO TAKE FOUR OR FIVE? AND I'LL TAKE ONE OF THE OTHERS? I TAKE FOUR.
WATER, STORM WATER AND RESILIENCE, WATER QUALITY, FLOOD RESILIENCE AND PUBLIC AESTHETICS ARE INTERCONNECTED AND SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AS A UNIFIED SYSTEM.
OBJECTIVES, IMPROVE STORM WATER PERFORMANCE AND REDUCE NUTRIENT POLLUTION, ENHANCE THE APPEARANCE AND FUNCTION OF STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, INTEGRATE RESILIENCE INTO ALL PUBLIC LANDSCAPE AND INFRASTRUCTURE DECISIONS.
WELL, SHOULD, SHOULD WE DISCUSS ANY OF THAT? DID ANYBODY ELSE OH, GO, GO THROUGH IT AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK.
INITIAL ACTIONS EXPAND AND FORMALIZE THE MELBOURNE VALUABLE POND PROGRAM DEVELOPED DESIGN STANDARDS FOR POND BUFFERS AND SHORELINE PLANTING BIOSWALES AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FEATURES, REDUCED MO AND NATURALIZED EDGES WERE APPROPRIATE STRATEGIC OPPORTUNITY.
ALIGN THESE EFFORTS WITH N-P-D-E-S, PUBLIC EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS AND ONGOING COASTAL RESILIENCY PLAN INITIATIVES.
ANY INITIAL COMMENTS? I'D LIKE TO BE ENLIGHTENED ON WHAT N-P-D-E-S STANDS FOR.
WE'LL HAVE TO PUT THE, UH, THE ACRONYM IN THERE.
REESE CREATED BY THE CLEAN WATER ACT.
SO WE HAVE TO PUT THAT IN, ABIDE BY A LOT OF THOSE RULES THAT ARE IN, IN DDES, UM, WITH OUR STORM WATER.
AND WE DO EDUCATION OUTREACH SO THAT WE CAN, UM, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT STORM WATER, UM, TO GO WITH, TO PUT INTO OUR NPDS PERMITS.
I THINK WITH THAT IN MIND, I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
UH, WITH THAT, I, I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ALSO INCLUDE THE BM MAPS.
THAT'S, UH, WHICH, WHAT'S THE ACRONYM FOR BMAP? UM, GOD BASED IN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLANS, UH, WHICH IS ANOTHER STATE STANDARD, UH, AND OTHER STATE STANDARDS ACROSS THE NATION.
SO, ALIGN THESE WITH BASICALLY ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY REQUIRED AND WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE NATION.
WE CAN MAKE THAT AS ROBUST AS, AS MAKES SENSE.
UM, IMMEDIATELY I'M THINKING WATER, STORM WATER AND RESILIENCE.
UH, AGAIN, I GOTTA COMPLIMENT THE CITY ON THE EXISTING PROGRAMS LIKE THE RAIN BARREL REBATE PROGRAM, BAFFLE BOXES, BAFFLE BOXES, AND OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, WATER QUALITY, FLOOD RESILIENCE, AND PUBLIC AESTHETICS.
ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT IN THIS SECTION, STORM WATER THAT RE RESULTS AS ROOFTOPS, ROADWAYS, PONDS AND BIOSWALES? OR DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT ALL THE WAY TO THE SHORELINE ALONG THE ROADWAYS AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE MUNICIPAL TO INCLUDE LIVING SHORELINES AND LITTORAL PLANTING THAT REDUCE THE STORM WATER ONE LAST TIME BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE LAGOON? UH,
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I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WORTH ADDING IN THERE SOMEWHERE.I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I, WE DISCUSSED, AT LEAST I WAS A FLY ON THE WALL KINDA LISTENING TO THE MORE OPINIONATED FOLKS ON IT, WAS THEY, THEY WANTED TO ALMOST PUT LIKE A, 'CAUSE WE COULDN'T COVER EVERYTHING.
SO IT'S LIKE TRYING TO, BUT I THINK THAT'S, WE SHOULD ADD THAT.
WHY NOT? I MEAN, IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, SO.
WELL, IT'S ALSO LIKE, IT'S, YOU CAN'T JUST, IT'S ALL CONNECTED, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU WANT TO MM-HMM
UM, IT ALSO IS AWAY FROM AS TIME GOES ON TO BE ABLE TO, TO BRING IN THE COMMUNITY.
ASSOCIATE THE IMPACT VERSUS, UH, THE TRADE OFFS AND ALL THE, WHAT GOES INTO IT? WELL JUST SAY POND BUFFERS AND SHORELINE PLANTING.
SO I GUESS TECHNICALLY I JUST, WHENEVER WE PUT SHORELINE PLANTING WITH POND BUFFERS, I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE SHORELINE OF THE POND AND NOT, AND IT'S NOT THE SHORELINE OF THE LAGOON.
SO, UH, COASTAL SHORELINES OR, OR, OR LAGOON SHO SHORELINES.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS ANOTHER BULLET.
COASTAL SRE LINES OR LAGOON AND COASTAL.
BECAUSE, WELL, MELBOURNE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT PUTS AGAINST THE OCEAN, DO WE? NO.
I LOVE HOW THAT LITTLE SECTION JUST POPS OUT OVER THERE.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON, ON THAT? AGAIN? WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE IT TO STAFF TO, TO, TO KEEP IT MOVING ALONG.
I WILL GENTLY BRING US TO NUMBER FIVE.
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND RECOGNITION.
COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IS ESSENTIAL TO LONG TERM SUCCESS OBJECTIVES.
INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS AND PARTICIPATION IN SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS.
RECOGNIZE AND REWARD POSITIVE COMMUNITY ACTIONS.
STRENGTHEN PARTNERSHIPS WITH RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND INSTITUTIONS.
CREATE A UNIFIED PROGRAM UNDER THE BANNER WORKING TITLE, NAME MELBOURNE GREEN AND BEAUTIFUL.
PLEASE, LET'S COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S ALL OF OUR OWN.
AND NOT THAT THAT'S NOT A GREAT PLACE TO START.
UH, PROGRAMS MAY INCLUDE CLEAN ENERGY AWARDS, GEM LANDSCAPE AWARDS, MVP, POND AWARDS, NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOA CHALLENGES, BUSINESSES AND SCHOOL SUSTAINABILITY RECOGNITION.
THE TARGET, DOUBLE PARTICIPATION IN CITY SUSTAINABILITY AND OUTREACH PROGRAMS BY 2031.
AGAIN, WE NEED A BENCHMARK OF WHERE WE'RE AT TO TO KNOW THAT.
UH, SO IF WE HAVE ONE PERSON, WE CAN HAVE TWO
UM, SO I THINK EVEN JUST US BEING HERE ON THIS BOARD COUNTS TOWARDS THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE WE ARE PARTICIPATION IN OUTREACH PROGRAMS. UM, AGAIN, WE'LL MAKE COMMENTS TO STAFF.
I THINK WE GOT, KINDA GET THE GIST OF WHAT OUR ROLE IS NOW AT THIS POINT.
SO I'M JUST GONNA STEAMROLL THE REST OF THIS AND, AND GET US ALL HOME.
INCREASED USE OF NATIVE AND LOW MAINTENANCE, LANDSCAPING, IMPROVE GATEWAY AND CORRIDOR AESTHETICS.
15% REDUCTION IN MUNICIPAL ENERGY USE INTENSITY BY 2045.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, UM, WE'LL JUST TAKE AWAY THE PERCENTAGE.
RIGHT? ISN'T THAT JUST THE, THAT'S THE GOAL, RIGHT? WE JUST, WE WANT, WE WANT TO DO IT.
LET'S JUST TRACK THAT AND DO THAT.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S DOING SOMETHING WHICH IS MOVING THE BALL FORWARD.
UH, COMPLETION OF ENERGY BENCHMARKING FOR ALL MAJOR FACILITIES.
IMPLEMENTATION OF AT LEAST FIVE MAJOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
FIVE MAJOR EFFICIENCY PROJECTS THAT COULD BE PLANTING TREES TO REDUCE THE ENERGY COST OF A BUILDING BY SHADING IT IN THE SUMMER.
I WOULD WORK FLEET AND ENERGY TRANSITION PHASED EV INFRASTRUCTURE DEPLOYMENT.
MAYBE THE CITIZEN ON PATROL COULD BE, UH, A, A CHEVY VOLT.
UH, I LIKE, I LIKE THAT IT HAS BOTH STRATEGIC TRANSITION OF LIGHT DUTY FLEET VEHICLES UPDATED CLEAN ENERGY TIMELINE ALIGNED WITH 2045.
HOW ABOUT JUST UPDATED CLEAN ENERGY TIMELINE, WATER RESILIENCE, CITYWIDE EXPANSION OF THE MVP POD PROGRAM? SURE.
IMPROVE STORM WATER FACILITY AESTHETICS AND FUNCTION.
A HUNDRED PERCENT INTEGRATION OF RESILIENCE STANDARDS INTO CAPITAL PROJECTS.
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, INCREASED PARTICIPATION IN AWARDS AND OUTREACH PROGRAMS. ANNUAL PUBLIC FACING PERFORMANCE DASHBOARD.
UM, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE WEBSITE.
CONFIRM BOARD MEMBERSHIP AND ORIENTATION.
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STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK AND PRIORITIES.I THINK WE'VE REQUESTED THAT IN ENOUGH.
FINALIZE THE MVP PROGRAM EXPANSION.
LAUNCH A PUBLIC RECOGNITION PROGRAM, COMPLETE AT LEAST ONE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT AND PUBLISH THE FIRST ANNUAL PERFORMANCE DASHBOARD.
ANY COMMENTS BEFORE MOVING ON? ANNUAL PERFORMANCE.
THAT'S WHAT, UH, AN ANNUAL REPORT.
WELL, I, MY QUESTION WHETHER WE'VE REQUESTED BASELINE DATA ENOUGH.
UM, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE BASELINE DATA THAT I NEED.
UM, AND MAYBE THAT'S BEEN COLLECTED AND I JUST NEED TO BE DIRECTED TO WHERE IT IS.
I MEAN, I KIND OF BREEZED OVER THAT.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO, UM, REALLY GET A FIRM HANDLE ON THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA SET UP STRATEGIC GOALS, WE HAVE TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE TO KNOW WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
SO REQUEST BASELINE DATA, UM, ENERGY FLEET, WATER FACILITIES, AND I GUESS IT'S MUNICIPAL SITES.
I WAS, UM, THINKING IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO INVITE SUPERINTENDENTS FROM YEAH.
THOSE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SO THAT THEY CAN SPEAK ON WHAT THEY DO AND WHERE THEY'RE AT.
BUT THEN ALSO WE DO HAVE DATA FOR THESE TOO, SO I CAN GET THOSE.
MEGAN, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? WE GOT, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE GOT FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
FACILITIES, UH, ALL OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS, RECLAMATION PLANTS, WATER PRODUCTION.
DO WE DO THE MUSEUMS? FLEET MUSEUMS. MUSEUMS? NOT MUSEUMS? NO.
NO, WE DON'T HAVE CITY MUSEUMS. NO.
I GUESS IT'S STILL COUNTY, CITY HALL.
AND, UH, WHAT ABOUT THE LIBERTY BE NO.
I THINK A FORMAL REQUEST FROM THE BOARD TO PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH AS MUCH AS THAT AS YOU CAN, UH, AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
AND THEN WE'LL START A SERIES OF SPEAKERS FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
WELL, I THINK WE SORT OF GOT STARTED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF QUANTIFYING THAT EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ACREAGE THAT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR AND MAINTAINING, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE IN THE FLEET, WHAT DEPARTMENTS DO THEY BELONG TO? WHAT, UH, WHAT IS THE, UM, ENERGY USE, UH, PROFILE OVER, SAY THE LAST 10 YEARS FOR EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS AND, AND HOW MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE, ACREAGE, DID THAT COVER, YOU KNOW, HOW HAS THAT CHANGED OVER THE YEARS? IT, IT'S PRETTY, YOU KNOW, TO GET A REAL GOOD UNDERSTANDING, YOU NEED THAT KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE.
STEVE, I'M GONNA LEAN ON YOU THEN TO EMAIL STAFF A REQUEST OF THAT NATURE.
AND I SUGGEST WE ALL DO THE SAME.
UH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU REALLY HAVE A GOOD MIND FOR, FOR, FOR THAT.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO KEEP AN EMAIL CHAIN.
UM, SO IS THAT OKAY IF WE ALL YEAH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF BASELINE DATA FROM THE PREVIOUS BOARDS.
UM, UM, WE'LL SEND YOU RECOMMENDATIONS AND YOU CAN SEND US WHAT YOU GOT REPORTS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT.
I HELP ASSEMBLE A REPORT, UH, TYING ALL THAT TOGETHER.
ALSO, I THINK WE MAY, UM, INVITE LISA.
THERE ARE BOARD MEMBERS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOST VALUABLE POND PROGRAM'S ALL ABOUT.
MAYBE NEXT, IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START MEETING IF SURE.
BUT I, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SPEAKER AT EVERY MEETING.
AND THEN HUBS BRING THE PUBLIC INTO, WHICH IS ALWAYS NICE.
YEAH, THERE'S A VERY GOOD SPEAKER FROM A NATIVE BUTTERFLY NURSERY THAT KNOWS A LOT ABOUT NATIVE LANDSCAPING.
AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM COME IN AND OH, I'D LOVE TO.
ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY SAID EVERY RESIDENT SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST 75% NATIVE IN ON THEIR PROPERTY AS THE GOAL.
THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE REALLY HELPFUL.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE FOR A LOT OF THE BEAUTIFICATION.
THERE'S A DARK SKY, UH, INTERNATIONAL,
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UH, OFFICE.WE COULD GET A SPEAKER FROM AS WELL.
UM, IT'S HARD TO DO DARK SKIES.
I'VE TRIED TO DO IT BEFORE, BUT MAYBE TO HELP WITH, UM, LIGHTING.
BUT WITH LIGHTING JUST IN GENERAL.
WELL, I JUST THINK, UM, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE ORDINANCES AND, AND FRANKLY, UM, THERE'S NO, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A LIGHT METER EVEN.
SO WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE
SPILLAGE FROM ONE NEIGHBOR TO THE OTHER.
BUT IS THAT A HUNDRED BUCKS? YEAH.
IT'S REALLY UP TO THE RESIDENT TO COMPLAIN.
BUT THERE'S NO MECHANISM FOR IT'S TRUE ENFORCEMENT.
YOU HAVE SPECIFIC, UH, SPECIFICATIONS IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE IT.
THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SHOULD HAVE SOME TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THE METER.
I'VE CALLED THE CITY ABOUT THE PLAZA BEHIND OUR HOUSE, THAT THEIR LIGHTS ARE SO BRIGHT.
THEY LIKE, CAME INTO OUR WINDOW AND WE TOLD CODE AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, YOU CAN GET BLACK OUT THERE
YOU'RE VIOLATING CODE ON HERE AT SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE, SAME THING WITH.
I GOTTA TALK TO THE BREVARD SCHOOL BOARD.
WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE POINTS THAT THEY MAKE WITH THAT PRESENTATION WITH THE, UM, DARK SKIES IS DIRECTED.
LIGHT IS MUCH MORE, UH, SECURITY, UH, UH, BETTER FOR SECURITY BECAUSE THAT LIGHT JUST OUT WILLY-NILLY BLINDS PEOPLE YOU CAN'T SEE.
TO BE SECURE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S BLINDED.
WELL, I THINK THAT KIND OF LEADS US TO THE SPEAKER LIST.
SO, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDED A SPEAKER.
UH, THAT'S ONE AND TWO, I THINK IF WE ALL HAVE SPEAKERS, WE RECOMMEND WE JUST KEEP ADDING TO THAT LIST AND WE'LL START WITH THOSE.
JUST SEND US THEIR INFORMATION OR TELL US WHO YOU WANT.
TO HAVE COME TALK AND WE'LL WORK ON IT.
AND DARK COUNTY INTERNATIONAL, JUST OPEN THEIR FIRST PUBLIC PARK IN OKLAHOMA.
UM, LAST, LAST PAGE HERE FOLKS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A SPEAKER, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE TIM, AND THEN COMING OUT SPEAKING, UH, IS THERE ANY ADVERTISEMENT IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE CAN DO TO CREATE AN INTEREST? I MEAN, I CAN SEND A BLURB TO MY ASSOCIATION SAYING THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT.
IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO FOR US TOO? OH YEAH.
WE CAN PUT ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
UM, AND THEN YOU ALL ARE WELCOME TO FOLLOW THE CITY OF MELBOURNE ON YOUR PERSONAL FACEBOOK AND X AND THEN SHARE IT.
I HAVE SEEN YOUR POST SHARING.
AS PART OF MY JOB, I FEEL LIKE I'M ADDICTED TO SHARING OTHER PEOPLE'S CONTENT, UH, GOVERNANCE AND REPORTING.
THE BOARD WILL MEET REGULARLY WITH STRUCTURED AGENDAS ALIGNED TO THE FIVE PILLARS.
PROVIDE AND PRESENT AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
DEVELOP A PUBLIC DASHBOARD, I BELIEVE HOPEFULLY THAT CAN LIVE SOMEWHERE ON THE ECO DIVISION.
WEBPAGE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS, POLICY AND PROGRAM GUIDANCE.
I, I'M GONNA ASK STAFF, IS THERE A BEAUTIFICATION BOARD PORTION OF THE CITY WEBSITE SOMEWHERE THAT WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT? YES, THERE IS.
IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND YOU TYPE UP IN THE SEARCH BEAUTIFICATION, YOU CAN SMELL ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD.
HERE'S THE CRITERIA ABOUT THE GEMS AWARD PROGRAM.
UM, IT'S SUCH A NICE WEBSITE, CLEAN ENERGY AWARDS, WHICH WE COULD ADD TO THAT.
UM, WE CAN ADD, WE CAN ALL, WE NEED TO ADD THE MOST VALUABLE PAWNS IN HERE, BUT YEAH, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO UPDATE.
SORRY, CHERYL MAKING MORE WORK FOR YOU.
IT HAS THE LAST ANNUAL REPORT ON HERE FROM LAST YEAR, SO, PERFECT.
IT'S NICE WHEN THERE'S A FRAMEWORK, UH, FUNDING STRATEGY, RECOMMENDED FUNDING SOURCES INCLUDE UTILITY COST SAVINGS, REINVESTMENT.
AGAIN, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY SAVE EXXON POWER, THAT THEY WOULD THEN REINVEST IT ON Y UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, CIP ALIGNMENT.
UM, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THEN, OR NOT A MOTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE A BUDGET SPEAKER COME INTO AT SOME POINT, SOMEBODY WHO IS INVOLVED IN THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ALIGNMENT, UH, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A COMPTROLLER OR WHO THAT MIGHT BE.
UM, BUT SOMEBODY ALONG THOSE LINES TO KIND OF TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY'S PLANNING ON DOING WITH THEIR NEXT FISCAL
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PLAN WOULD REALLY HELP US KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE DIRECTION'S GOING AND WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME ROOM FOR SOME SUGGESTIONS.ALWAYS KEEPING AN EYE OUT FOR THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL AND RESILIENCY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
I THINK WE COULD APPLY FOR IRL AND EEP FUNDS FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS TOO, THROUGH THEIR SMALL GRANTS PROGRAM.
THAT MIGHT BE A FUNDING MECHANISM THAT, UM, I WILL CAUTION EVERYONE.
IT IS NOT EASY TO WIN
THERE ARE MORE THAN 50% OF 'EM THAT DON'T GET SELECTED.
SO WE WILL SUBMIT WITH OPTIMISM AND, AND HOPE, BUT NOT, UH, PUT ALL OF OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET.
UH, JUST AS PERSONAL NOTE FROM EXPERIENCE, ENVIRONMENTAL AND RESILIENCY FUNDING PROGRAMS, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND SPONSORSHIPS, WHICH MAY BE A, UM, A MORE STRATEGIC FUNDING OPPORTUNITY IF THERE ARE BUSINESSES AND THINGS THAT WANT TO CHAMPION SOME OF THIS.
YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS IF THE DENTIST OFFICE AROUND THE CORNER REALLY WANTS TO HELP BEAUTIFY THEIR PLAZA, THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO PUT SOME MONEY TOWARDS IT.
COLLABORATION WITH LOCAL INSTITUTIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS.
I ALWAYS LEAN ON UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
STEVE, THANKS FOR WEARING THE SHIRT.
THE MELBOURNE, WE'RE GONNA JUST WORKING TITLE GREEN AND BEAUTIFUL ACTION PLAN PROVIDES A CLEAR PRACTICAL FRAMEWORK TO GUIDE THE WORK OF THE BEAUTIFICATION ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD.
I REALLY THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER TITLE THAN THAT.
I THINK IT'S MELBOURNE SUSTAINABLE ACTION PLAN.
WHAT IS THE CITY SLOGAN? LOGAN? THE HARBOR CITY.
UM, WE CAN HARBOR SUSTAINABLE INTENTIONS.
UM, BY INTEGRATING BEAUTIFICATION OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, WATER STEWARDSHIP, AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INTO A SINGLE COORDINATED EFFORT, MELBOURNE CAN IMPROVE, I MEAN, WILL OR IMPROVE WATER QUALITY OF, IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS, STRENGTHEN ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCE, REDUCE LONG-TERM OPERATIONAL COSTS, ENHANCE ITS IDENTITY AS A FORWARD THINKING COASTAL COMMUNITY.
THIS PLAN POSITIONS THE CITY TO MOVE BEYOND ISOLATED INITIATIVES TOWARDS A COHESIVE, MEASURABLE, AND VISIBLE SYSTEM OF SUSTAINABLE BEAUTIFICATION.
UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S FAIR.
UH, I THINK ONCE WE GET THIS ADOPTED, WE CAN ASK THE MAYOR, SIGN IT, PUT IT IN TO, UH, I DUNNO, CODE, BUT MAYBE NOT CODE, BUT IT GOES INTO SOME FILE SOMEWHERE.
THAT IT BECOMES PART OF THE, THE, THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
BUT IT'S NOT, WE CAN'T LIKE AMEND THE CHARTER OR ANYTHING.
LIKE WE CAN'T CHANGE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE CITY'S LIKE CODE.
UH, WE WOULD CHANGE THE CODE TO SAY FOLLOWING THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
SO UNDER THAT TWO IS IN THE CODE ALREADY.
IS TO CREATE A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, WHICH YOU'RE DOING, AND THEN YOU, UM, TRACK IT AND THEN AMEND IT TO SAY FOLLOW.
WE HAVE TO TRACK THIS, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND TIME ALREADY.
I, I REALLY LIKE OUR DISCUSSION.
I THINK THAT THIS IS PROVING TO BE A, A GOOD GROUP ALREADY IN DAY ONE.
WE'VE TAKEN SOME TIME TO, TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
THANKS TO CHAT GPT FOR HELPING REFINE MY, MY SLOP AS I TYPE 10 PAGES AND REFINE IT DOWN TO ONE.
I WROTE A LOT OF PAGES AND IT JUST REFINED IT.
UH, NUMBER 10 ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA.
ANY RECOMMENDED ITEMS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING? AGENDA? I'D SAY REVIEW.
UM, THIS PLAN ONCE IT'S BEEN UPDATED.
AND THEN, UM, I GUESS REALLY GO FROM THERE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS? UH, APPROVE THE NEXT SPEAKER.
AND THEN MAYBE DO YOU STAFF, DO YOU GUYS BELIEVE YOU'LL HAVE THE INFORMATION READY FOR, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH FOR, UH, MR. STEVE TO, UH, CREATE A REPORT.
UM, SO THEN A PROGRESS UPGRADE, UH, UPDATE ON, ON THAT.
UH, IF, IF I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, PARTICULAR, UH, SUBJECT MATTER, THE ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO IT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S SEARCHABLE ON THE WEBSITE OR COULD I YEAH.
ANYBODY CAN GO TO, WHEN YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, CITY OF MELBOURNE WEBSITE, UM,
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YOU SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN AND QUICK LINKS, YOU CLICK ON MUNI CODE.THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN LOOK UP ORDINANCES AND SUCH.
YOU COULD JUST JUMP TO, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LIKE LANDSCAPING, WELL, SORRY, LANDSCAPING PLANS, TREE PRESERVATION, LANDSCAPING, WHATEVER.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REALLY LOOK THROUGH THROUGH HERE.
TREE PROTECTION AND REMOVAL PLAN, LIKE PERMITS.
INVASIVE, NONS SPECIES, WHATEVER.
WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT.
AND THEN YOU WOULD BRING THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING TO YOU.
UM, AND WE CAN MAKE A NEW BUSINESS OR WHATEVER.
AND IF ANYBODY THINKS THAT OF ANYTHING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN YEAH.
FREE EMAIL US AND WE CAN ALWAYS ADD IT.
WE CAN ADD IT TO THE AWESOME AGENDA.
I HAVE ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION.
UM, IS IT DOT THAT CONTROLS THE MEDIAS OR IS THAT CITY PROPERTY? UH, BOTH.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S THE ROAD.
UH, BECAUSE FDOT OWNS SOME ROADS LIKE 1 92 US 1 92 US ONE O GEY.
UM, AND THE CITY, I MEAN, COUNTY OWNS WICKHAM ROAD.
DIFFERENT SECTION AND DIFFERENT, LIKE A AURORA ROAD I HAVE.
AND THE CITY ONLY OWNS, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER ROOM.
I HAVE AN IDEA BECAUSE I KNOW ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE A CONSERVATION CLUB AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH THE REWARD SYSTEM TO GET THE SCHOOL BOARDS.
'CAUSE WE DO HAVE GREAT TEACHERS AND EVERYTHING.
UM, GET THEM ON BOARD WITH IT.
MAYBE GET THE SCHOOLS AND GET SOME KIDS TO, TO DO SOME WORK FOR THE CITY.
AND THEY GET A REWARD FROM IT.
SO THAT CAN BE A, AN INITIATIVE.
THE LITTLE HIGH SCHOOL RIDE OVER.
IS THAT A NEW ITEM YOU WANNA ADD? OH, YOU COULD.
SCHOOL BEAUTIFICATION, UH, I GUESS MEDIUM, UH, BEAUTIFICATION, UM, FOR SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, UH, KBV SOUTH ACTION TEAM HAS A SCHOOL BEAUTIFICATION GRANT.
OH, FOR $500? YEAH, IT'S $500 AND UM, IT'S ALMOST EVERY YEAR THEY APPLY.
BUT JENNIFER THOMPSON'S ABOUT TO SEND THE APPLICATIONS AGAIN.
AND THEY'RE DUE TO, THEY'RE DUE LATER NOVEMBER.
YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT WITH THE GRANT NEEDS TO, THE GRANT APPLICATION NEEDS TO COME FROM THE SCHOOL.
LIKE YOU CAN'T DO IT ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL, YOU WANNA CONNECT WITH THAT SCHOOL AND THEN HELP THEM CREATE SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPE, LITTLE GARDEN PLAN AND THEN SEND THAT YOU, YOU CAN EMAIL ME ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE I CAN GIVE YOU THE CON THE, AND NICK KNOWS, OH, YOU CAN'T EMAIL HIM, BUT YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION.
ARE THE APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE KINDS OF GRANTS THROUGH YOU MEGAN, OR YOU JUST THROUGH THE SOUTH ACTION TEAM.
WE'RE ACTUALLY PART OF THE SOUTH ACTION TEAM.
SO
JUST EMAIL US AND WE'LL, WE'LL, THE SOUTH ACTION TEAM IS A CONGLOMERATION OF A, UM, NUMEROUS DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND PEOPLES THAT UM, ARE PART OF THIS DOING A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO JUST SEND IT TO US AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET YOU, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLAN.
MY IDEA WAS KIND OF LIKE THE ADOPT THE ROADS, BUT THEN HAVE THE SCHOOLS MAYBE ADOPT A MEDIAN.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY CAN DO THAT.
WE SEE HOW WE CAN WORKSHOP IT, LIKE IT START THEIR OWN SCHOOL.
I RUN THE ADOPT THE ROAD PROGRAM FOR THE CITY, SO OH, WONDERFUL.
SO WE'RE TALKING TO THE RIGHT PERSON.
YOU COULD HELP US CREATE THE PROGRAM, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED AND THE, THE SAFETY ASPECT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER MY THOUGHT.
I THINK THE KIDS COULD, UH, DIFFICULT HELP DESIGN SELECT PLANTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY COULD EVEN MAYBE FOSTER THE PLANTS BEFORE THEY GO IN AND TRY TO LIKE, I'M, I'M JUST RIGHT.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF THE KIDS COULD GET THEM IN CLASS AND WATER THEM BEFORE THEY GO OUT OR SOMETHING.
PROPAGATE THE PLANTS BECAUSE YOU COULD GET A SMALL TRAY OF LN TWO SPARTINA GRASSES FOR 72 CENTS A PIECE OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND THE KIDS COULD POT THEM INTO ONE GALLONS AND TAKE CARE OF 'EM FOR A YEAR.
THAT PLANT GETS BIGGER AND THEN WHEN YOU GO PLANT IT, THE KID HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH IT AND IT'S A LARGER SIZE THAN IT WOULD BE.
SO YOU'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED YOUR VALUE.
AND MAYBE THEY CAN DESIGN IT THE HOW IT'S GONNA BE DONE AS WELL.
AND WE CAN MAKE IT ASSISTANCE FROM UFIF AND, AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT KNOW
TO MAKE SURE IT HELPS OUT OUR ACTUAL, ACTUAL, UM, YEAH.
ON THAT SAME NOTE, UM, THERE'S A PROJECT THAT I'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO, I MENTIONED IT TO KBB TODAY.
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YOU KNOW, OUR DOT BRIDGES, UH, FROM A, BOTH A LOCAL PERSPECTIVE AND AS A TOURISM GUY, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE VISIT OUR AREA AND THEY DRIVE ACROSS OF GALLEY AND THEY SEE, UH, INVASIVE OLA, INVASIVE BRAZILIAN PEPPER, INVASIVE AUSTRALIAN PINE, IT REALLY SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE EVEN TO THE FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE.THEY DON'T KNOW BETTER ABOUT PLANTS, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST LIKE, HEY, IT'S GREEN.
I WOULD LOVE IN THE FUTURE, BEFORE I DIE, TO HAVE REMOVED THE INVASIVES FROM ALI BRIDGE I ON THAT AND REPLANT THEM WITH MANGROVES AND NATIVES AND THE THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
JUST AS A EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS PLACE AND 1 92 AND 1 92.
THOSE ARE ALL FDOT ROADS, WHICH AS NEED THE CHAIR OF THE SCENIC BYWAYS.
I CAN GET US IN CONTACT WITH THE CHAIR.
SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO FACILITATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE AREAS THOUGH IS, ARE THE GROUNDS AROUND THE DOT ROADS, UM, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TOO? YEAH.
I KNOW THAT THE PAVEMENT IS NOT, SOMETIMES IT'S CITIES.
I KNOW SOMETIMES CITIES ARE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN IT.
AND THEY GO AFTER THE CITIES MM-HMM
BUT THEY CAN GET, THEY DON'T DO THEIR OWN.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE.
BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE WHEN PEOPLE VISIT THE AREA, WHEN THEY LIVE IN THE AREA, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY SEE A LOT OF.
UM, ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? OH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE I SECOND MOTION TO A OH, I MOTION TO ADJOURN.