* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] WE WOULD NOW CALL THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD OF MELBOURNE TO ORDER. IF WE WOULD, WE WOULD, UH, ASK MR. TYRONE BRYAN IF HE WOULD LEAD US IN A WORD OF PRAYER. LET'S OPEN UP A PRAYER. DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US LIFE AND FOR GRANTING US THE SPACE TO COME TOGETHER AND TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE SAFELY OVER TO THIS POINT. BE WITH US AS WE DISCUSS THE IMPORTANT MATTERS OF THIS CITY. IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. WE WOULD PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDI WITH LIBERTY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE ROLL CALL. MR. MCNEIL. PRESENT. REVEREND HAYNES. ABSENT MR. HUMBARD HERE. MR. HART PRESENT. MR. WALKER IS ABSENT. HE IS, UM, OUT OF TOWN THROUGH THE FAMILY STUFF. UH, MR. MIDDLETON PRESENT. MR. DI UH, MR. DILLARD? SORRY. PRESENT. MR. BARIAN PRESENT. OKAY. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM CHAIR. MR. MR. HAYNES IS WALKING IN. WELCOME. I WILL CHANGE THAT HERE. WE WILL NOW HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 6TH MEETING, 2026 CHAIR. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BID. IT IS WRITTEN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 6TH, 2026 MEETING. YOU HAVE THE TIME, TIME TO CONSIDER MOTION. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS. WE WILL ENTERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. I SEE NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC, SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO, UH, ADVISORY BOARD AND WE WILL GO INTO HOUSING URBAN IMPROVEMENT MANAGER'S REPORT. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. UM, THIS MEETING WILL BE BRIEF AND WE THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TO THE MATTERS OF THE CITY. ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT TOPICS TONIGHT THAT I SHOULD LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IS TONIGHT IS DR. RODIE HUMPER LAST MEETING. HE WILL BE LEAVING US, BUT HE HAS GIVEN THE CITY JUST OVER 25 YEARS OF SERVICE, AND THAT'S NOTHING TO SNEEZE AT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND AN OPPORTUNITY TO BOARD MEMBERS WHO'VE WORKED WITH HIM FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO SHARE ANY OF YOUR THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW. JUST BRIEFLY. UM, YOU'VE WORKED WITH HIM LONGER THAN I HAVE. UM, SO I, I DIDN'T WANNA BE DISINGENUOUS, BUT I'M CERTAINLY GRATEFUL FOR THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY AND THE MOVEMENT OF FEDERAL FUNDS AND SEEING HOW, UM, A VARIETY OF PEOPLE AND VARYING INCOME LEVELS HAVE BEEN SERVED WITH YOUR, UM, INFLUENCE. WELL, I GUESS I AM THE MOST SENIOR, LONGEST, MOST SENIOR ONE HERE THAT HAS, UH, BEEN AROUND ROADIE FOR A FEW MINUTES. UH, HE HAS SERVED IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES, BUT HE WAS MOST EXCELLENT WHEN HE WAS THE, UH, THE CHAIRMAN OR THE PRESIDENT OF THIS BOARD. HE, UH, CERTAINLY SERVED WITH DISTINCTION AND, UH, I WAS PRIVILEGED TO LEARN SOME THINGS WHILE HE WAS, UH, SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY. SO I AM, I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP DURING YOUR TIME WHEN YOU WERE THE LEADER. SO THANK YOU, DALE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. I'VE ONLY KNOWN YOU FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT, UH, UH, FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'VE SET ON THIS BOARD, THAT, UH, I AM, UH, APPRECIATIVE OF THE DIRECTION YOU GAVE ME WHEN I WAS STUMBLING AND STUTTERING AND EVERYTHING. SO, UH, TO HELP CARRY THE MISSION RIGHT OF THE, UH, [00:05:02] CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD ONWARD. SO I SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, THAT WISDOM WE GOING TO MISS, BUT, UH, WE DO TRUST THAT YOU WILL BE HAPPY WHERE YOU ARE WORKING ON IT. GO ON. SO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU, SIR. THE NEXT ITEM THAT I'LL, I HAVE TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD, UH, IS A DIRECTIVE FROM CITY COUNCIL FOR EACH BOARD TO CONSIDER. WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE. LET ME START THERE. WE'RE NOT VOTING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE A MOTION. I'M SIMPLY GOING TO GIVE THE CITY CLERK FEEDBACK. AND THIS IS ABOUT BOARD TERMS. THERE ARE BOARDS OTHER, UM, CITY BOARDS WITH VARYING BOARD TERMS. AND WHAT'S KIND OF MOST INTERESTING IS YOUR, YOUR TERM LIMITS ARE ALREADY AT THREE YEARS, THEY'RE ASKING EACH BOARD TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT EVERY SINGLE BOARD SHOULD HAVE A THREE YEAR TERM LIMIT. THAT'S IT. IT'S VERY GENERAL, VERY, VERY SOFT. NOTHING GIANT TO DO. THE REASON THEY WANNA CHANGE TO THIS LEVEL OF FREQUENCY IS TO BRING THE OPTION BACK TO CITY COUNCIL TO CONS, CONSIDER MORE CAREFULLY EACH BOARD MEMBERS. UM, APPOINTMENT BOARD ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE ACROSS EACH CATEGORY, EACH ACTIVE BOARD. AND THAT IS ALSO, IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THE TOPICS THAT THEY'VE ADDRESSED OVER THE LAST, I'D SAY FOUR MONTHS OR SO, THEY'VE BEEN ACTIVELY TALKING ABOUT BOARDS, BOARD PARTICIPATION, BOARD ENGAGEMENT, AND BOARD ATTENDANCE. IT HAS BEEN A CONTINUAL DISCUSSION. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THEY ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE. AND OUR NEW SYSTEM IS PRETTY DARN GOOD WHEN YOU SELECT THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU'D LIKE TO VIEW. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THREE HOURS OF JUST WATCHING. SO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOUR COMMENTS TO TAKE BACK TO THE CITY CLERK. YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT LIMITING OR ADJUSTING EACH BOARD TO A THREE YEAR TERM LIMIT. ISN'T THAT WHAT WE HAVE NOW? THIS, THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD HAS. YEAH. THE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER BOARDS WITH VARYING TERMS. THERE ARE TWO BOARDS WITH TERMS THAT ARE SET BY, UM, FLORIDA STATUTES. SO WE CAN'T MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THERE. BUT THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS, ZONING, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, AND A COUPLE OTHERS, THEY'RE OUTLINED IN CITY CODE. OUR, A HC BOARD, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, FOUR YEAR TERM, THEY HAVE FOUR YEAR TERMS AND THEY'RE STAGGERED. SO THE POINT, IT REALLY IS JUST TO BRING EACH PERSON'S CONSIDERATION FOR APPOINTMENT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. SO IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BEFORE YOU COME BACK AND THEY REALIZE, OH, THIS PERSON HASN'T PARTICIPATED OR THEY'VE MISSED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MEETINGS OR CHECKS AND BALANCES. RIGHT? HMM. YOU GOT CHECKS AND BALANCES. SOMEBODY MISSES SO MANY MEETINGS. YOU MAKE THE EFFORT TO CONTACT THE PERSON. WE DO. YEAH, WE DO. AND THEN THEY DROP OFF. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. IT SEEMS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS TRYING TO ADDRESS IT FROM, UH, THE WRONG PERSPECTIVE. I AGREE. UH, LOGICALLY YOU SHOULD HAVE IT BE BASED ON UNEXCUSED ABSENCES THEN, UH, GOES TO A MANUAL REVIEW OF CITY COUNCIL FOR THEN DISMISSAL AS OPPOSED TO, UH, AUTOMATICALLY COMING TO IT FOR X NUMBER OF YEARS OF BOARD SERVICE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO APPROACH US FROM THE TOTAL WRONG DIRECTION, IF I MAY. THEY, THEY USED TO DO THAT YEARS AGO FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY STOPPED. UH, ONCE UPON A TIME, IF YOU HAD THREE UNEXCUSED ABSENCES, YOU WERE PRETTY MUCH DISMISSED. UM, WHY THEY CHANGED THAT, I DON'T KNOW. BUT, UM, UM, THREE YEAR TERM, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD, UH, FIX ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, UNLESS [00:10:01] THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU CAN ONLY SERVE TWO, THREE YEAR TERMS OR THREE, THREE YEAR TERMS AND GET FRESH IDEAS ON BOARD. SO YOU CAN ONLY SERVE FOR SO LONG AND THEN YOU GOTTA FIND SOMETHING ELSE. MM-HMM . 'CAUSE I'M LONGING THE TWO . YES, MA'AM. AREN'T YOU GUYS HAVING PROBLEMS FINDING THE VOLUNTEERS TO COME TO THE BOARD MEETINGS ALREADY TO PARTICIPATE ON THE BOARD? YES. WE HAD A DRY SPELL. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WE DID. WELL, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THERE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE BOARDS, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, ABSENT, UH, PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN A VACANCIES, I SHOULD SAY, ON THOSE, ON, ON MANY OF THESE BOARDS. UH, WILL THAT GO INTO A TERM LIMITS AS, UH, UH, THREE YEAR TERM LIMIT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT GOING TO HELP ANY. UM, IT JUST, EXCUSE ME. NO, I AGREE. UH, IF, IF THE PERSONS, UH, HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, DOMESTIC OR EITHER EVEN SICK OR WHATEVER TERMS, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, DURING THE DAY, THAT DAY, UH, THE MEETINGS ARE, UH, DO WE HAVE A PROVISION FOR THAT? SO, UH, IT'S A, A DISCUSSION THAT I THINK IS ONGOING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATIONS. UH, EXCUSE ABSENCE, UH, UH, BUT I THINK THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, WE'VE HAD THREE, THREE YEAR TERMS AND MM-HMM . IT SEEMED TO BE WORKING TO ME. UH, AND, AND THIS BOARD HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH, UH, FIELD IN ITS ENTIRETY THROUGHOUT. SO AS FAR AS THE OTHER BOARDS, YES, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME THAT, UH, VACANCIES, THERE ARE MANY VACANCIES, BUT AT THIS POINT, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE STATE OF COURSE, AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE INTERNAL ASPECTS, WHETHER IT EXCUSE ABSENCE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, HOW IS IT, UH, AFFECTING, I MEAN, IT MAY BE HAPPENING THAT THEY WERE JUST SICK DURING THE, THAT DAY THAT MM-HMM . THAT THEY WERE, UH, AND ALL THE OTHER DAYS OF THE MONTH, UH, PRETTY MUCH THEY WERE CAPABLE OF BEING HERE. IT HAD BEEN. SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK. UH, YES, SIR. THE, IF THE CONCEPT ALSO, I KNOW IT WASN'T WHAT THE, UH, COUNCIL ORIGINALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS WAS THE IDEA THAT THEY WOULD WANT MORE FRESH PERSPECTIVES, THEN PERHAPS IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE A, UH, THRESHOLD TRIGGER CONDITION. IF THE BOARD CAN MAINTAIN A FULL MEMBERSHIP AS WELL AS THE ALTERNATIVE MEMBERS, WELL THEN MAYBE WE CAN START HAVING, LIKE, PEOPLE WORKED OUT FOR NEW PEOPLE GOING IN, BECAUSE THERE'S SIMPLY COMMUNITY INTEREST IN THAT BOARD WHERE IF A BOARD IS SITTING AROUND AND BARELY MAKING QUORUM, THE LAST THING IT NEEDS TO DO IS START EVICTING MEMBERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ACTIVELY CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY. IS THERE A, UH, WAY TO ZOOM IN TO THE MEETING? NO, SIR. THAT IS NOT AN OPTION. THE, THE LIVE BROADCAST, YES. ZOOM FOR A, A VIRTUAL OPTION TO PARTICIPATE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, IT WAS EITHER CITY COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGER'S DECISION. I THINK IT WAS CITY COUNCIL POST COVID. IT'S JUST AN OPTION. YES, SIR. I I I MIGHT BE MISSPEAKING, I CAN. SO, UM, A THOUGHT, AND MAYBE IT'S ALREADY BEEN CONSIDERED, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME BOARDS BEING COMBINED. THEY'RE DISCUSSING THAT. OKAY. ACTIVELY, OKAY. THAT MEANS FOR LEVELS OF EFFICIENCY. RIGHT. AND I MEAN, IF YOU GET A GOOD FIT BETWEEN TWO OR THREE BOARDS, THEN JUST MAKE IT ONE BOARD. AND IF THERE, THAT MAY SOLVE THE ISSUE. I, I THINK THAT THAT'S A CONSIDERATION WITH AT LEAST TWO OF THE BOARDS. [00:15:01] SO, OKAY. IT WAS A LONG, DRAWN OUT, HEATED DISCUSSION ON THAT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE BOARD JUST JUMP AT WORST CASE SCENARIO. SAY IT AGAIN PLEASE. WHY DID THEY JUMP AT WORST CASE SCENARIO? OH, THREE YEARS. OH, SOMEBODY'S SICK, SOMEBODY'S THIS WHAT I MEAN, LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF IT, BECAUSE THREE YEARS YOU GET BURNT OUT. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, BUT YOU GET BURNT OUT DOING THE SAME THING, TIME AGAIN, 25 YEARS, 30 YEARS, FIVE YEARS. IT'S, YOU GET BURNT OUT. SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOUNGER, FRESHER MINDS IN, AND THE LATTER GENERATIONS DON'T HAVE THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT NICELY WITHOUT, IT SOUNDED BAD, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ATTENTION SPAN TO, TO DELEGATE SOMETHING FOR LONG AMOUNTS OF TIME. SO YOU HAVE TO BE QUICK, QUICK, QUICK WITH IT. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BOARD IS SAYING ON THE SIDE OF THREE YEAR TERMS. SO WE JUST NEED TO, I MEAN, LOOK AT IT FROM BOTH SIDES, NOT JUST, OH, IF YOU'RE ABSENT, THE ONE TIME THE MEETING IS, IS, IS, UH, SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, THEN IT'S, YOU'RE OUT BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A LIFE THAT IS NOT THE CBA, THE CAB MEETING. AND I DON'T EXPECT, LIKE, YOU, YOU CAN'T ATTEND EVERY MEETING ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE TWINS. WHAT IF ONE OF THE TWINS FALLS AND, AND HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL? YOU KNOW? SO JUST, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT LIKE BOTH SIDES OF THE, THE PICTURE. AND IF A PERSON, I HOPE EACH BOARD MEMBER KNOWS THAT YOU CAN STEP DOWN IF IT BECOMES TOO MUCH. IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT ADVANTAGEOUS ANYMORE, THERE'S, WE'RE, IT'S NOT A PENALTY TO DO THAT. BUT THE CITY COUNCIL IS REALLY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO REVIEW EACH BOARD. LET'S JUST FOR A MOMENT OF HONESTY. WE LIVE IN A REGION OF FLORIDA THAT IS FULL OF SNOWBIRDS. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF SNOWBOARD BIRDS. AND SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE LIKE ON THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS, PARDON? WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF SNOWBIRDS? PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE FOR ONLY A PORTION OF THE YEAR, WINTER MONTHS. ONLY THE WINTER MONTHS. BUT BOARDS ARE ACTIVE YEAR ROUND. SOME, SOME BOARDS ARE FAR MORE ACTIVE THAN OURS. SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR CONTINUAL PARTICIPATION. UM, ONE, I'M, I WANTED TO KEEP THIS BRIEF BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING AND I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I HEAR WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING. IT SEEMS TO BE A CONSENSUS. YOU'RE FINE WITH THREE YEARS. IF IT'S NOT BROKEN, DON'T, DON'T FIX IT. UM, BUT THAT, AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO MAKE IT SHORTER OR LONGER FOR THIS BOARD. YOU'RE ALREADY AT THREE YEARS, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR OPINION. UM, IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCIES, YES, THEY ARE CONSIDERING COMBINING BOARDS. UM, MY OTHER THOUGHT WAS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN PARTICIPATE MORE FREQUENTLY AND PARTICIPATION AS ALL OF YOU SAT THROUGH ORIENTATION WITH THE SAME CITY CLERK. WELL, EXCEPT, EXCEPT YOU AND YOU , UH, THE REST OF YOU THREE AT THE ONE, TWO. MR. HART WAS HERE BEFORE I, REVEREND HAYNES AND MR. HUMPHREY WERE ALL HERE BEFORE I GOT HERE. SO THE REST OF YOU WERE TRAINED ON THE, THE SAME CITY CLERK THAT I WAS INTRODUCED TO. AND WHAT I HEARD WAS VOTING IS PARTICIPATION. THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN VERBALLY TAKING A, YOU, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO TALK AT EVERY MEETING, BUT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE. THAT'S WHAT IS EXPECTED. IF YOU'RE ENGAGING IN DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION, THAT'S FANTASTIC, BUT YOU DON'T GET EXTRA KUDOS THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. ACTIVE PARTICIPATION. YES. UH, REVEREND HAYNES, YOU ARE CORRECT. IN THE PAST THERE WAS A FAR MORE STRINGENT PERSPECTIVE ON ATTENDANCE SOMEHOW THAT AT ONE POINT FELL BACK TO STAFF. AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT COMMUNICATION BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT SOMEONE'S GONNA BE OUT [00:20:01] FOR EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SOMETIMES WE GET CONFIRMATIONS AND BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE HERE AND SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED. SO THAT IS NOW GOING BACK TO THE CHAIRPERSON TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IS WHAT'S GONNA LEAVE STAFF'S HANDS. SO THE CHAIRPERSON HAS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT'S EXCUSED AND WHAT'S NOT EXCUSED. BUT TODAY, I'LL SUMMARIZE BY SAYING I HEAR YOU CLEARLY THREE YEAR TERMS ARE SUFFICIENT AND PERHAPS A DEEPER, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON HOW TO APPROACH THINGS. WE WILL MOVE UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER COMMENTS. I DON'T WANNA SKIP ANYONE. WELL, BEFORE YOU MOVE, UH, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MR. HERBERT IS, UH, WITH HIM LEAVING, UH, AND WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM, AND I THINK WE HAVE ONE, UM, AUXILIARY MEMBER OR ALTERNATE MM-HMM . MR. BRIAN. OKAY. MM-HMM. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT AUTOMATICALLY HE WOULD MOVE INTO THAT SLOT? OR DO WE HAVE TO UH, THE BOARD DOES NOT. WHAT IS THE PROCESS? THE BOARD DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION. THAT WOULD BE, UM, THE CITY CLERK REACHING OUT TO MR. BRIAN TO LET HIM KNOW. HE WOULD NOW BE, UM, A FULL MEMBER AND NOT AN ALTERNATE. OKAY. EVEN, BUT JUST FOR UNDERSTANDING TONIGHT, MR. WALKER'S NOT HERE. RIGHT. SO HE WOULD NOT SIT AS AN ALTERNATE TONIGHT. HE VOTES AS A I UNDERSTAND. NON ALTERNATE REGULAR MEMBER. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UH, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND FIVE AND SIX. AND CONSIDERING THERE, THERE'S NO ONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE CAN HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING INSTEAD OF TWO. OKAY. I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR. WE WOULD, WITH THAT BEING SAID, FROM THE DIRECTOR, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHILE THERE WAS NOT A PUBLIC FOR THE A, A SUSTAINABLE, UM, AMENDMENT FOR THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2020 26, UM, 20 25, 20 26, COMMUNITY BOB GRANT, ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, UH, TO, FOR $31,000. UH, IS THERE A DISCUSSION THAT WE, ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS IN THAT REFERENCE? OR IS IT CLEAR CUT AND DRY THAT WE, OR HOW WE UNDERSTAND THE YES, I'LL GIVE SOME CONTEXT. OKAY. IF YOU CAN TURN IT ON. OH, IT DID WORK. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. PREVIOUSLY, OUR SCREENS WEREN'T WORKING. SO TONIGHT I PRESENT TO YOU, UH, A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, 26. THE PER, OH, IT SAYS WORK. I JUST OF THAT. WOW. UH, OH. LET'S FIX, I CAN FIX THAT. WE WILL AMEND THE SCOPE OF WORK. YY MIGHT EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE CLUB, I KNEW SOMETHING LOOKED OFF, MA'AM. I SAID SOMEBODY WAS THINKING ABOUT THE CLUB SOME SMIRK NOW. SO LET ME TRY THAT AGAIN. THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT IS TO AMEND THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE CARVER PARK, UM, PROGRAM. ONE TASK WAS COMPLETED BEFORE THE APPROVAL OF THE ACTION PLAN, WHICH MAKES THAT PORTION OF THEIR, UM, INITIATIVE NULL. THE APPLICANT WITHDREW. AND THE APPLICANT IS THIS, UM, CITY OF MELBOURNE'S PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. SO ANYTIME WE ARE GOING TO AMEND THE SCOPE OF WORK, WE BRING THAT ITEM BACK TO, UH, THE CITIZEN'S ADVISORY BOARD. AS WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE AMENDED OUR, UM, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, PART OF THE REASON, UM, ONE OF THE TASKS WAS COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF OUR HUD'S ACTION PLAN. HUD APPROVING OUR ACTION PLAN BECAUSE OUR ACTION PLAN IS NORMALLY APPROVED IN AUGUST, BUT THIS YEAR WE DID NOT GET APPROVAL FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNTIL DECEMBER AND THEY NEEDED TO MOVE ON AND TAKE ACTION. SO THEY PAID FOR IT OUT OF THEIR OWN OWN. THEY FOUND ANOTHER WAY TO PAY FOR, UH, ONE OF THE ELEMENTS IN [00:25:01] THEIR SCOPE OF WORK. SO WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL FULL. OUR, OUR OUR, UM, THE BALANCE IS THE SAME. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO AMEND THE SCOPE OF WORK AND REISSUE THIS AGREEMENT AND GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE IT THIS SUMMER. UH, ONE OTHER, UM, AMENDMENT TO THE SCOPE OF WORK SOMEHOW FROM, FROM THE APPLICATION TO ONE OF OUR, UM, ADVERTISINGS, WE WENT FROM THE APPLICATION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR, OR THE APPLICATION WAS FOR THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING. AND SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDST OF OUR DISCUSSIONS AND UH, FUTURE PLANNINGS, WE HAD A SCRIBNER'S ERA AND IT WENT FROM THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING TO THE FOOTBALL FIELD LIGHTING. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY ASKED FOR. SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT AND CATCH UP. YES, MA'AM. THERE WAS AN APPLICATION FOR A FOOTBALL LIGHTING. SO DID THEY GET MERGED SOMEHOW? WE THINK I HAD A, I HAD A, I MADE A MISTAKE. WELL, YOU WAS S WORKING , YOU, YOU SEE? YEP. YES MA'AM. UH, THEIR APPLICATION, IF YOU WENT INTO NEIGHBORLY, WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE PARKING LOT. OKAY. AND I DID PUT IT EVERYWHERE. I WROTE IT, I WROTE FOOTBALL FIELD. OKAY. EVERYWHERE I WROTE IT, I WROTE FOOTBALL FIELD. AND I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE WHEN WE GOT TO THIS DISCUSSION AND WHEN, UM, THEY GAVE THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND Y'ALL REMEMBER HAVING MR. WILLIAMS COME FORWARD AND THE BOARD ASKING THEM ALL THAT THEY NEEDED, WE WERE LIKE TAKING NOTES. OKAY, THIS IS WHAT THEY NEED. THIS IS, THESE ARE THEIR FUTURE ACTIONS BETWEEN MYSELF AND NIKKI, THE PARKS DIRECTOR, WE'VE ALL HAD A HAND IN GOING, OKAY, LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN AND WE'LL GET IT RIGHT. BUT FORTUNATELY FOR US, IT IS WITHIN THE SAME FISCAL YEAR. SO WE CAN STILL SOMEWHAT MEET THAT GOAL AND DRAW DOWN THAT $31,000. SO THE FUNDS REMAIN THE SAME. SCOPE IS GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, MINUS ONE ITEM. UH, AM I MISSING SOMETHING? 'CAUSE IT, ACCORDING TO THE MOTION, YOU'RE GONNA REALLOCATE $31,000 FROM 25, 26 TO THE SAME YEAR. IT WE SET UP SAME YEAR. MM-HMM . YEAH. JUST A DIFFERENT BUCKET, SAME BUCKET. BUT I HAVE TO CALL THE PROJECT WHAT IT IS IN THE ACTION PLAN PROJECT. SO EVEN IF I'VE MADE A MISTAKE WHEN THEY COME TO AUDIT AND THEY SAY, OH, THEY APPLIED FOR, THEY APPLIED FOR PEAS AND CARROTS, BUT YOU FUNDED THEM FOR APPLES AND BANANAS, THEY DON'T MATCH RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S MY FAULT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I'M CLEANING UP, CLEANING UP MY, THIS IS, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE METHOD TO CLEAN IT UP. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO YOU READY FOR A MOTION? NO PROBLEM. UM, ARE, ARE THERE ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? JUST SO I'M CLEAR? UM, EVERYTHING'S THE SAME. JUST THE THE SCOPE? YES, SIR. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGING. MM-HMM . OKAY. INSTEAD OF PUTTING LIGHTS FACING THIS WAY, YEAH. LIGHTS WILL FACE THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. GOTCHA. GOTCHA. OKAY. I'M GOOD. IT'S THAT, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. WELL, YOU EXPLAINED IT, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T JUST BOUNCE OFF MY HEAD. NO, SIR. YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. SOMETIME IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. IT'S WORKING. UH, , I LASH MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT REALLOCATING 31,000 IN CDBG FUNDS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 25 26. SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND THAT WE APPROVE THE $31,000 FOR UH, 2020 20, I'M SORRY, 20 25, 26. UH, REALLOCATING THE $31,000 FOR CBDG FUNDING FOR THE YEAR. YOU HAD TIME TO CONSIDER THE MOTION. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSES HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS. I HEAR NONE. SO MOVED. OKAY. UH, MS. JOHNSON, [00:30:01] WOULD YOU, UH, GIVE US A SAME OVERVIEW FOR ITEM SIX? THIS ONE IS EVEN MORE SIMPLE. THIS AMENDMENT IS FOR THE HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM. IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT. AND I NEGLECTED TO SAY ANYTIME WE CHANGE THE SCOPE OF WORK OR IF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, UH, 49% OR GREATER, THEN WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ALL AND CITY COUNCIL. IF, IF THE SCOPE WAS JUST TO EXPAND IN THAT PREVIOUS PROJECT, IT'S NOT AN ITEM THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK UNLESS THE SCOPE CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY. SO FOR THIS, AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. WE ARE TAKING FUNDS, THE REMAINING FUNDS FROM I BELIEVE 2022 TO 2023 AND BRINGING THEM FORWARD TO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2025 TO 2026. THE REMAINING BALANCE IS $10,220 AND 61 CENTS. AND THE BALANCE WAS FROM THE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THAT PROGRAM IS NOW, UH, SUNSET. THE HOMEOWNER HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM IS BUSY. IT IS A PROGRAM THAT IS MOVING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FIND IT INCREDIBLY BENEFICIAL TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM. SO WE CAN MOVE THESE DOLLARS IN THE NEXT QUARTER AND SPEND THEM DOWN IMMEDIATELY? YES, MA'AM. OH, NO. OKAY. CAUGHT MY EYE. UH, 2024. WHAT HAPPENED? WE ARE MOVING THEM TO THE PRESENT YEAR. SO WE CAN DRAW 'EM DOWN NOW. YEAH. 20, $24 MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN, UH, IF I RECALL, THEY MIGHT BE COMPLETELY DRAWN. BUT WE ARE GOING FOR THE, WE TRY TO SPEND THE OLDEST DOLLARS FIRST, THE OLDEST MOST ACTIVE, NOT ACTIVE, THE OLDEST DOLLARS ON OUR BOOKS FIRST BEFORE THEY REACH AN EXPIRATION. SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT 20 24, 20 25 MAY STILL BE SITTING SOMEWHERE. IT IS POSSIBLE THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE DOLLARS LEFT IN 24, 25 IF THERE, NOW YOU'RE MAKING ME THINK THE 2020, THE PROJECT WE HAD IN FISCAL YEAR 24, 25, I BELIEVE WAS A MACEDONIA HOME THAT WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED, IF I RECALL THAT CORRECTLY. WAS IT A 3D HOUSE? IT WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE A 3D HOUSE, BUT THEY CONVERTED BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT AHEAD OF TIME THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT GOING TO, UM, IS THAT 24? IT MIGHT BE. YEAH. SO ANYWAY, THEY KNEW THAT IT WASN'T A FEASIBLE OUTCOME, SO THEY SWITCHED BACK TO A TRADITIONAL BUILD. MM-HMM . I BELIEVE MACEDONIA COM HAD A, A RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY, I WOULD SAY IN MARCH. AND I, IT WAS, IT WAS CELEBRATED ON THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE AND THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL READ THOSE WHEN THEY COME OUT. IF YOU'RE SUBSCRIBING TO THE CITY NEWSLETTER, THE PROJECTS ARE BEING HIGHLIGHTED THERE. THE CELEBRATION WAS THE ONE ON, UH, REVEREND CHURCH STREET. REVEREND NATHANIEL L HARRIS. OH, OKAY. OKAY. IT WAS ON THAT ONE. THAT STREET. UH, REVEREND HARRIS. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND WHILE WE ARE TOGETHER, THANK YOU FOR THAT SLIGHT TANGENT FROM WHERE WE ARE. BUT I, I'VE NEGLECTED TO MENTION IT IN MY MANAGER'S REPORT ON JUNE 16TH, THERE SHOULD BE A, A RIBBON CUTTING CELEBRATION FOR THE TWO ARPA HOMES ON LIPSCOMB STREET DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM, UM, MACEDONIA. SO THOSE WILL BE COMING IN FOR A LANDING. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRANSFER OF DOLLARS FROM FISCAL YEAR 2223 TO 25 26? IF, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE FUNDING FOR I HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT REALLOCATING OF $10,261 IN HOME FUNDS FROM FISCAL YEAR 2022. 2023. DO I HEAR A SECOND? A SECOND. IT'S [00:35:01] BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, FY APPROVED TO THE FY 26 SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT REALLOCATING $10,220 61 CENTS TO THE HOME FUND FROM FY 2020 22 TO 2023. YOU HAD TIME TO CONSIDER THE MOTION. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS HERE. NONE. SO MOVED. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE FUNDS FOR, UM, WHEN WE WERE VOTING ON LIKE, UH, PPE OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? WHAT DID YOU GUYS GET? THE NO, GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT. THE REMAINING CV FUNDS THAT WE'VE, UH, BROUGHT TO THE BOARD A FEW MONTHS BACK, UH, WE DID TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL. THERE WAS SUPPORT TO, UM, FUND THE LUCAS DEVICE. THE DEVICE HAS BEEN PURCHASED, IT WILL BE SENT TO, UM, THE FIRE STATION THAT IS WITHIN OUR TARGET AREA. SO IT WILL PROVIDE AN AREA BENEFIT AND OUR HUD REPS SUPPORTED THAT. SO WE WILL MEET THE FUNDING DEADLINE AND NOT HAVE FUNDS RECAPTURED, WHICH IS THE 30TH OF THIS MONTH, CORRECT? YOU ARE CORRECT. YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT WAS OUR GOAL. OKAY. THAT IS THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. CAN YOU PLEASE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'M SORRY. AT THIS TIME WE WOULD WE WOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND WE WOULD NOW ENTERTAIN, UH, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THE PARTY TONIGHT. UH, A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I AAN MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6 37 AND 47 MINUTES. WELL, SECOND. WE GOT A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. IT IS BEEN PROBABLY MOVED IN SECOND. WE ADJOURN THE MEETING AT THE TIME. DESCRIBED. YOU HAVE TIME TO CONSIDER THE MOTION. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL THEM IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. WILL HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS. THAT'S IT MR. HERBERT. END OF VEERA. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.