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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE JULY 14TH, 2026 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, WE RE LET ME REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM, LOCATE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND SUBMIT IT TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, USE THE MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR YOUR NAME AND CITY.
BE MINDFUL OF THE TIMER ON THE LECTERN AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT BEFORE YOUR SPEAKING TIME ENDS.
THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS. AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE OR PERSON WITH A LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME AS RULES TO BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE A RECORD FOR THE COUNCIL.
ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL AND PERTINENT SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
THIS EVENING WILL BE BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION.
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND.
THE INVOCATION NIGHT WILL BE GIVEN BY COUNCIL MEMBER MARCUS SMITH.
PLEASE DRAW ME IN A WORD OF PRAYER.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF MELBOURNE.
GRANT THIS COUNCIL WISDOM TO MAKE SOUND DECISIONS, COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT, AND HUMILITY TO LISTEN WITH OPEN HEARTS.
HELP US TO WORK TOGETHER WITH RESPECT EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE.
ALWAYS KEEPING THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY AT THE CENTER OF OUR EFFORTS.
BLESS OUR RESIDENTS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR MILITARY VETERANS, OUR BUSINESSES, OUR SCHOOLS, AND ALL WHO CALL MELBOURNE HOME MAY ALL WORK TODAY, PROMOTE SAFETY, OPPORTUNITY AND HOPE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
GOD, OUR WORDS, OUR ACTIONS AND OUR DECISIONS MAY THEY REFLECT INTEGRITY, COMPASSION, AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE COMMON GOOD.
IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND DO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ROLL CALL MR. MCEWEN.
AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO WILL BE HERE SHORTLY.
COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO WILL BE HERE SHORTLY.
VICE MAYOR KENNEDY IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING.
[4. Proclamations and Presentations]
ON TO, UH, PROCLAMA PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATIONS.UH, BROOKE BLAZER, THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL, AND THE CITY OF ENVIRONMENTAL OUTREACH MANAGER, MEGAN RUBIN.
OKAY, THIS IS A PROCLAMATION, UH, REGARDING, UH, MANGROVES AND, AND IT'S GONNA BE DECLARING JULY 26TH, 2026 AS MANGROVE DAY PROCLAMATION, CITY OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
WHEREAS MANGROVES ARE A KEYSTONE SPECIES AND AN ICONIC FEATURE OF FLORIDA'S COASTAL ECOSYSTEMS. AND WHEREAS MANGROVES PROVIDE A CRITICAL HABITAT FOR NATIVE FLORIDA WILDLIFE, INCLUDING AT LEAST 220 SPECIES OF FISH, 181 SPECIES OF BIRDS, 24 SPECIES OF REPTILE AND AMPHIBIANS AND 18 MAMMAL SPECIES.
AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT FLORIDA, 75% OF THE SPORT AND COMMERCIAL FISH SPECIES RELY ON MANGROVES.
BOTH RECREATIONAL AND COMMERCIAL FISHING INDUSTRIES REPRESENT A MASSIVE ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE STATE ECONOMY AND THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON REGION.
RECREATIONAL SPORT FISHING WAS VALUED AT MORE THAN 9.2 BILLION IN COMMERCIAL FISHING, RECORDED AN ESTIMATE 197 MILLION IN LANDING IN 2020.
AND WHEREAS MANGROVES PROVIDE MORE THAN 50 BILLION IN COASTAL PROTECTION SERVICES BY ACTING AS A NATURAL BARRIER DURING EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS SAFEGUARDING PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LANDS.
AND WHEREAS ROOT SYSTEMS OF MANGROVES CAN TRAP SEDIMENT AND POLLUTANTS ABSORB, ABSORB EXCESS NUTRIENTS AND FILTER HEAVY MATERIAL OR METALS AND WASTEWATER BEFORE THEY, THEY MAKE THEIR WAY INTO THE INDIAN REVERT LAGOON.
AND WHEREAS FLORIDA MANGROVE POPULATION OF DECLINE TO A FRACTION OF IT HISTORIC LEVELS BECAUSE OF DEFORESTATION DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES AND SEVERE WEATHER IMPACTS.
AND WHEREAS MANY RESIDENTS OF FLORIDA AND THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON REGION MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE ECOSYSTEM AND ECONOMIC VALUE THAT MANGROVES PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS COMMUNICATING THE IMPORTANCE OF MANGROVES AND THEIR VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION OF TO FLORIDA'S WAY OF LIFE CAN ENCOURAGE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF AN ICONIC SPECIES.
AND WHEREAS FLORIDA AND FLORIDIANS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THE RESTORATION OF MANGROVE
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ECOSYSTEMS BY DONATING TO MANGROVE NURSERIES UNDERTAKING SAFE AND LEGAL MANGROVE TRIMMING PRACTICES, AND EVEN INSTALLING MANGROVES ALONG THEIR SHORELINE, AND THUS FURTHER COMPOUNDING THE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES AND, UH, ECONOMIC BEN BENEFITS TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA.NOW THEREFORE, IT BE RESO, UH, BE RESOLVED AT I PAUL ALRE MAYOR CITY OF MELBOURNE ON TODAY'S DATE, DUE PROCLAIM JULY 26TH, 2026 AT MANGROVE DAY IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO, YOU KNOW, LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ICONIC, UH, PLANT.
SO I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO YOU, AND IF YOU'LL SAY A FEW THINGS, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
MY NAME IS BROOKE BLOSSER AND I'M THE SCIENCE COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH COORDINATOR FOR THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL.
THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL IS A NONPROFIT BASED IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE RESTORATION OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON THROUGH SCIENCE, EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY.
OUR WORK IN THE LAGOON PRIMARILY FOCUSES ON RESTORING THE MANGROVE ECOSYSTEM AND MANAGING STORMWATER.
TODAY I'M HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION FOR MANGROVE DAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THE ECO DIVISION FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO THIS EDUCATIONAL PROCLAMATION.
UM, AS WE HAVE HEARD, THE MANGROVE ECOSYSTEM IS ONE THAT WE ARE INCREDIBLE, UM, INCREDIBLY LUCKY TO HAVE ON OUR FLORIDA COASTLINES.
SEQUESTERING MORE CARBON FROM THE ATMOSPHERE THAN EVEN AMAZON RAINFORESTS.
MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS CAN ALSO CAPTURE EXCESS NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS THAT POLLUTE THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, TRAP HEAVY METALS AND STABILIZE OUR SHORELINES.
WITH THIS, THEY ACT AS COASTAL PROTECTIONS, PROVIDING INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO ACTING AS INFRASTRUCTURE THEMSELVES, PROTECTING TAXPAYER FUNDED ROADS AND ALSO PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
IN ADDITION, MANGROVES ARE FOUNDATIONAL TO MARINE MARINE ECOSYSTEMS. THEY PROVIDE THE HABITAT FOR JUVENILE FISH AND PROMOTE BIODIVERSITY IN OUR MARINE ECOSYSTEMS. IN FACT, 75% OF FLORIDA'S, UH, IMPORTANT FISH SPECIES ARE NEEDED MANGROVES IN THEIR, UM, LIFE CYCLES.
UH, AS WE HEARD, MANGROVES ARE GREATLY, HAVE BEEN GREATLY DIMINISHED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
IT'S BEEN ESTIMATED THAT POPULATIONS HAVE BEEN REDUCED BY 84% IN RECENT DECADES.
AND SO, IF YOU'RE THINKING TO YOURSELF AT THIS MOMENT, WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP THE MANGROVE? THAT IS WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING FLORIDA'S MANGROVE ECOSYSTEM, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED AND STAY INFORMED.
FLORIDA'S DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HAS TRIMMING REGULATIONS FOR, UH, MANGROVES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND IF YOU BORDER THE LAGOON, YOU CAN OF COURSE, PLANT MANGROVES ON YOUR PROPERTY AT ANY TIME.
OF COURSE, WE RECOMMEND OUTSIDE OF HURRICANE SEASON, UM, AND LUCKY FOR YOU, MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL DOES HAVE A NURSERY WITH MATURE MANGROVES READY TO BE PLANTED.
THERE ARE MANY AMAZING ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY DOING THE REST, UM, WORKING ON THE RESTORATION OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IN THE MANGROVE ECOSYSTEM.
FOLLOWING ALONG, VOLUNTEERING AND ATTENDING EVENTS IS A GREAT WAY TO STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY BONDS AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE OF THE RESTORATION OF THE ECOSYSTEM.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED, I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE VIA EMAIL, SOCIAL MEDIA, OR AT THE TED MOORE HEAD LAGOON HOUSE.
WE ARE ALWAYS WELCOMING VISITORS, SO PLEASE COME SEE ME.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GET TOGETHER.
ACTUALLY, YEAH, WE GOTTA HOLD THAT.
I THINK MORE IMPORTANT THAN WE ARE, SO BE CAREFUL.
ONE MORE, ONE MORE, ONE MORE, ONE MORE.
YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I WANNA THANK THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL FOR EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO.
UH, IF YOU GET A CHANCE, GO SEE WHAT THEY DO AND, AND THEIR WORK.
AND IT'S VERY CRITICAL AS YOU KNOW, US IN BREVARD, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TAX OURSELVES TO FIX A LAGOON
SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO.
WHEN I SEE WHAT YOU GUYS DO AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU AND A FEW GROUPS LIKE THE BAVAR DO.
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HOW YOU DOING? HOW, HOW YOU DOING? HOW ARE YOU? NICE TO, WHEN YOU'RE HERE, I CAN DO THIS.HOW YOU DOING? GOOD TO SEE, GOOD TO SEE.
YOU KNOW, I, I, BEFORE I START, I WANNA SAY GROWING UP HERE, BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND, AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY AS, AS YOU SEE, UM, MELBOURNE, UH, WHEN YOU SEE SOME OF THE CHURCHES AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY REACH A HUNDRED AND, AND YOU SEE THAT THEY'RE STILL GOING STRONG AND, AND, AND THE PEOPLE IN THERE ARE DOING WHAT THEY DO EVERY DAY.
I, IT'S REALLY, I, I'M, I'M VERY BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, BEING A PART OF HISTORY AND WATCHING, UH, YOU KNOW, WATCHING HISTORY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS ASKED TO DO THIS HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ST.
JOHN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS, IT WAS AN HONOR FOR ME TO, TO SAY, SAY THAT.
UH, ONE THING ABOUT THE BAPTIST CHURCH, I DON'T TELL A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT MY GRANDFATHER WHO PASSED AWAY, HE ACTUALLY BUILT AND STARTED THE, UH, THE OLD MYRTLE BAPTIST CHURCH BACK.
THIS WAS IN THE SIXTIES, BACK IN, UH, OFF AND BRANDY WINE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S STILL GOING.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS STRONG AS IT USED TO BE, BUT IT'S, IT'S STILL GOING.
SO WE, HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE ON AND ALL KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP OUR FAITH FORWARD.
SO WE'RE GONNA START OUT A PROCLAMATION, CITY OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
WHEREAS ON JULY 10TH, 1926, THE LATE REVEREND EC LAWS FOUNDED THE SPRINGFIELD MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
AND IN 1941, REVEREND HOSEA EVENT, UH, WAS ASKED TO TAKE OVER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHURCH.
AND WHEREAS REVEREND'S CHURCH MEMBERSHIP LATER MOVED TO THE CITY OF ALI, AND IN 1949, JOINED TOGETHER WITH REVEREND LAWS' CHURCH TO BECOME ST.
JOHN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
AND WHEREAS OVER THE YEARS THE CHURCH'S MEMBERSHIP IMPACT GREW ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE BAPTIST YOUNG PEOPLE'S UNION FORMED VARIOUS PASTORS LED THE CHURCH THROUGH RENOVATIONS IMPROVEMENT AND COMMUNITY INITIATIVES.
AND WHEREAS REVEREND HERMAN WALKER, WHO BEGAN HIS MINISTRY ON OCTOBER 2ND, 1988, RIGHT AFTER I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING A NEW, UH, EDIT FOR THE CHURCH IN 1990 AND STILL CONTINUES HIS FAITHFUL MINISTRY TODAY.
JOHN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH THEME TO CELEBRATE THIS REMARKABLE MI REMARKABLE MILESTONE IS HONORING OUR PATH, EMBRACING OUR FUTURE.
AND WHEREAS THE MELBOURNE CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY RECOGNIZES THE CHURCH, ITS LEADERS AND ITS MEMBERSHIP FOR ESPOUSING FAITH WHEN WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, AND NOW THEREFORE BE, BE RESOLVED, THAT I PAUL EY MAYOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE BOULEVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ST.
JOHN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH AND CONGRATULATE THE MEMBERSHIP AND LEADERSHIP FOR A CENTURY OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
WITNESS MY HAND, THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, THE 14TH DAY OF JULY, 2026.
SO WE'RE GONNA, I'M GONNA HAVE YOU SAY A FEW WORDS.
SAY A FEW WORDS FIRST YOU HAVE TO, I'M THE MAYOR, I'M MAKING IT SO AT LEAST WE CONGRATULATE.
UH, DEFINITELY REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.
UM, IT, I AM JUST TICKLE PINK, UM, AND HONORED THAT YOU CHOSE OH NO, TO RECOGNIZE THIS WONDERFUL CHURCH FOR THAT 100TH ANNIVERSARY.
AND IT'S JUST AN HONOR FOR ME ALSO, UM, TO WORK WITH, UH, ST.
JOHN'S MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
THEY HAD AN AWESOME WEEK OF CELEBRATION ALL WEEK FOR DIFFERENT CHURCHES IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I CONGRATULATE THEM AND CONGRATULATIONS, UH, FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS.
YOU WANNA SAY IF YOU WORKING, I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE AROUND BUT ANOTHER 100 YEARS, BUT YEAH, YOU WILL.
MAYBE NOT HERE, BUT YOU'LL BE AROUND RIGHT HERE.
I DO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF, OF THE MEMBERS, UH, OUR PASTOR, REVEREND WALKER.
AND, UH, I'LL PROUDLY TAKE THIS TO CHURCH WITH ME ON SUNDAY.
AND, UH, WE ARE TO CONTINUE TO CELEBRATE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT NEXT 100 YEARS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS HONOR.
CAN WE GET A PICTURE OF IT? ALRIGHT.
NOW THIS GROUP, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURPRISED.
WELL, I'M SURPRISED THEY'RE NOT HUNG OVER FROM ALL THE FIREWORKS AND THE WORK THAT IT TOOK TO GET ALL THIS.
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GANG.HUH? EVERYBODY THE GANG TODAY? YEAH.
HUH? HELLO? NO, I DID THE CORRECT.
NOW IF WE DON'T LEVEL OUT, THE BUILDING'S GONNA SHIFT.
SO BE LIKE A RIDE AT UNIVERSAL OR SOMETHING.
WHAT TONY DOING WRONG? TAYLOR, YOU KNOW, I GOTTA MESS WITH YOU, TONY
SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION REGARDING PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, UH, REALLY PROUD OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION WITH ALL THE POOLS, THE PARKS, YOU KNOW, I GET TO GO TO A LOT OF CITIES AND THEY'LL SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE GOLF COURSES.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO IF YOU SEE WHAT THE PARKS AND REC TEAM DOES AND TO KEEP EVERYTHING GOING, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING.
SO I WILL START OUT WITH, UH, PROCLAMATION WHERE PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
AND WHEREAS THESE PROGRAMS ARE VI IMPORTANT, ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY, ENSURING THE HEALTH OF ALL CITIZENS INCLUDES CONTRIBUTING TO THE, THE ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL WELLBEING OF A COMMUNITY AND REGION.
AND WHEREAS RECREATION ACTIVITIES BUILD HEALTHY, ACTIVE COMMUNITIES THAT AID IN THE PREVENTION OF CHRONIC DISEASE, PROVIDE THERAPEUTIC RECREATION SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY DISABLED AND IMPROVE THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH OF ALL CITIZENS.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS INCREASE THE COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM, AND THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES AND CRIME REDUCTION, AND WHERE AT PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS IMPROVE WATER QUALITY, UH, THAT PROTECT GROUNDWATER, PREVENT FLOODING, IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE AIR WE BREED, PROVIDE VEGETATION BUFFERS TO DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCE HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE.
AND WHEREAS PARK THE NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE THE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND ENJOY THE OUTDOORS.
AND WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAVE DE DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE RECOGNIZES THE BENEFIT TO RIDE FROM ITS PARKS AND RECREATION RESOURCES ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS TO EXPERIENCE THE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS TO OFFER NOW, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT I PULL OUT FOR MAYOR CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JULY, 2026 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE AND ENJOY THE CITY'S PARKS AND RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS. WITNESSED MY HAND AND THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
IT'S 14TH DAY, UH, 14TH DAY OF JULY, 2026.
AND, AND AGAIN, UM, IT'S AN HONOR TO DO THIS.
AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE PARKS AND RECREATION, IT'S IMPORTANT, TRY TO GET RID OF A PARK, MAN.
THE COMMUNITY WILL LET YOU KNOW, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I'M GONNA LET YOU SAY, IF YOU WERE, THERE YOU GO.
I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OUR WONDERFUL STAFF WHO MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE YEARS.
THE UNITED STATES HAS CELEBRATED PARK AND RECREATION MONTH IN JULY TO PROMOTE STRONG, VIBRANT AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE POWER OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
THIS MONTH IS DEDICATED TO RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING MORE THAN HALF A MILLION PARK AND RECREATION PROFESSIONALS ACROSS THE NATION.
AND WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO EMPLOY 124 STAFF DEDICATED TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY ACROSS OUR 42 PARKS, FIVE COMMUNITY AND CIVIC CENTERS, TWO GOLF COURSES AND DOZENS OF PROGRAMS, CLASSES, AND SPECIAL EVENTS.
OUR AMAZING STAFF IS CREATING PRICELESS EXPERIENCES FOR EVERYONE.
THIS JULY, JOIN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE PARKS, RECREATION AND GOLF DEPARTMENT FOR PARK AND RECREATION MONTH AS WE CELEBRATE THE ESSENTIAL VALUE THAT IT BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY.
PARKS AND RECREATION, INCREASED PROPERTY VALUE, PROMOTE TOURISM, SUPPORT, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, AND ENCOURAGES HEALTHY LIFESTYLES.
AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW A QUICK VIDEO, TAKE A LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCES, IMPACT, AND MEMORIES THAT WE HAVE CREATED TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS.
AND REMEMBER, IT STARTS IN PARKS.
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THANK YOU.[5. Approval of Minutes - June 9, 2026 Regular Meeting]
RIGHT.WE'RE GONNA MOVE IN TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 9TH, 2026.
I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE, UH, MINUTES FROM JUNE 9TH, 2026.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SMITH, SECOND BY MR. NEWMAN.
[6. City Manager's Report]
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, MS. LAMB.UM, STAFF HAS REQUESTED OR IS REQUESTING THAT WE MOVE ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH IS THE CONSULTANT CONTRACT FOR FIRE STATION 72.
IF WE CAN MOVE THAT TO BE HEARD AFTER ITEM NUMBER 20, WHICH IS IN RELATION TO THE CONTRACT FOR THE PROPERTY PURCHASE.
'CAUSE IF 20 DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE DON'T NEED 13.
AND THEN ALSO I DID INCLUDE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT THAT THE BUDGET SPECIAL MEETING WILL BE ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 29TH.
AND, UM, I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, I, MY OFFICE HAS DRAFTED A LETTER FOR US TO, UM, SEND TO CONGRESSMAN, UM, MIKE OUIS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER HANLEY, SINCE SHE'S THE ONE THAT ASKED THAT WE DO THAT.
THIS EVENING, UM, I RAN INTO MR. OU HAD SPOKE TO HIM, AND WE HAD OUR, GOING UP TO DC I HAD A LITTLE AGENDA PACKED LITTLE, AND HE SAID, IF YOU WOULD PUT IT IN A LETTER FORM AND HAVE ALL OF COUNCIL SIGN FOR IT.
SO WE HAVE LETTERS LETTER HERE, AND I'M ASKING ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SIGN IT SO THAT THIS IS OUR, UM, WHAT WE WANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, OUR AGENDA FOR
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THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.HE WANTED IT IN A WRITTEN FORM AND SIGNED BY ALL OF US.
HE SAID IT GAVE A LITTLE MORE AUTHORITY TO IT RATHER THAN HE HAS MY STUFF FROM OUR CITY.
BUT HE SAID THIS WOULD GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE AUTHORITY.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU GIVE FOR GOING TO DC PAY FOR DC.
SO IF YOU DON'T MIND SIGNING IT.
SO WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD AND, UM, STAFF WILL GET WITH VICE MAYOR, UM, KENNEDY TO, TO GET HER SIGNATURE HERE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.
SO IF I DON'T THINK THERE'S OBJECTIVE FOR ANYBODY TO NOT SIGN IT.
IT'S WHAT WE PASSED BACK IN JUNE, JUNE 9TH.
I RAN INTO ALL OF OUR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS CLOSE BY.
UM, I ENDED UP, WELL, I'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER ON AND DEMONSTR IT, BUT I'VE JUST ASKED FOR THAT UP FRONT HERE OKAY.
SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT SIGNED AND MOVE FORWARD.
ANYTHING ELSE MS. LAMB? I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LAMB ON THE STATE MANAGER'S REPORT? MM-HMM.
[7. Public Comments]
TO NUMBER SEVEN, PUBLIC COMMENTS.WE'RE GONNA STOP, START WITH PETER ALKI, I BELIEVE IT IS.
AND THEN GONNA BE FOLLOWED BY DR. RAY SHACKLEFORD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN, I, UH, APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
I I'M SPEAKING TO YOU ABOUT A TOPIC THAT ACTUALLY WE HAD SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY.
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE BOOSTER PUMP STATION INDIAN HARVEY BEACH.
WE HAD, UH, COME HERE IN AT THE END OF, UH, FEBRUARY TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT NOISE ABATEMENT FOR, UH, THE NOISE THAT'S GENERATED BY THE PUMP, WHICH IS A VERY CONSTANT, UM, UM, UNNATURAL NOISE THAT, UM, WAS A SIGNIFICANTLY LOUDER, UM, NOISE THAN THE OLD PUMPS HAD PRODUCED.
BECAUSE THE OLD PUMPS, FIRST OF ALL HAD HOUSED, WERE IN HOUSINGS.
AND FOR MANY OF US WHO LIVE NEAREST THE PUMPS, THAT CONSTANT PERSISTENT, UNNATURAL NOISE IS A SIGNIFICANT, HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR ABILITY TO ENJOY THE OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTIES DURING THE DAY.
MOSTLY, UH, BACK IN, UH, THE END OF, UH, DECEMBER, I SPOKE WITH TOM BAKER, UH, WHO WAS AN ENGINEER HERE AT THE MELBOURNE, UM, WATER DEPARTMENT.
AND HE SUGGESTED THAT THE TASK ORDERS SCOPE FOR THE NOISE MITIGATION EVALUATION IS BEING WORKED UP AND SHOULD BE READY SOON.
WE WILL WORK THE EVALUATION, THEN DESIGN A MITIGATION BASED ON THE RESULTS.
WE ALSO HAD A LETTER FROM THE BOARD, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE, UH, I THINK IT WAS AFTER WE SPOKE IN THE END OF FEBRUARY, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME ONGOING STUDY AND, AND AN ATTEMPT TO MITIGATE THE NOISE TO THAT, TO THAT POINT, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE PUMPS LARGELY ARE RETURNED OFF AT NIGHT.
THAT WAS A BIG CHANGE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S OTHER AREAS, OTHER RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE TRAILER PARK NEARBY WHO PROBABLY WERE MORE AFFECTED BY THE NIGHTTIME NOISE THAN I, THAN WE ARE PERHAPS DURING THE DAYTIME.
AND IT, IT'S REMARKABLE WHEN YOU GO OUTSIDE, WHEN THE PUMPS TURN OFF THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FEELING OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
WHEN YOU CAN HEAR NATURAL SOUNDS, YOU DON'T FEEL THE STRESS AND, AND THE STRESS BUILD UP IN YOUR BODY FROM THAT CONSTANT PERSISTENT SOUNDS LIKE HAVING A PERSISTENT HORN OR A PERSISTENT, UH, ANNOYING SOUND.
I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO SOME EXTENT THAT THE LEVEL OF SOUND MAY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTABLE.
BUT THE TRUTH IS, FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE CLOSE, AND THERE'S ABOUT A, I'D SAY ABOUT A DOZEN OF US WHO ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THAT PUMP, THOSE, THOSE BOOSTER PUMPS, THAT THE SOUND IS IN FACT HAS A BIG IMPACT ON OUR ABILITY TO ENJOY THE PROPERTY AND THE EXTERNAL EN ENVIRONMENT.
I, I WOULD HOPE, AND I WOULD ASK THAT THE, THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE THAT IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO AT LEAST REVISIT AND ADDRESS POSSIBLE MITIGATION TECH, UH, TECHNIQUES TO MITIGATE THAT NOISE, THERE WAS SOME INDICATION THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE.
IT SHOULD NOT BE A BIG COST, BUT IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE VERY CLOSE.
AND I HOPE THERE'S SOMEONE I COULD SUPPLY INFORMATION TO IF POSSIBLE.
I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
UH, DR. RAY SHACKLEFORD, THEN FOLLOWED BY ALBERTA, UH, ALBERT, UH, KKI.
RAY SHACKLEFORD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA MAYOR RY AND MEMBERS OF THE MELBOURNE CITY COUNCIL.
YOUR APPROVAL TO PLACE A PLAQUE OF MELVIN FOUNDERS IN CITY HALL AT NO COST TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
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THE INTERNET OR IN NEWSPAPERS, BROCHURES, HISTORICAL MUSEUM.IN FACT, ACCORDING TO THE COPYRIGHT ACT, THE FIRST USE OF PICTURES ON THE PLAQUE CAN BE USED FOR HI INFORMATION, EDUCATION AND HISTORY.
APPRECIATION GOES TO THE MELVIN CITIZEN WHO EMBRACE THE PLIGHT PROJECT IN MELBOURNE CITY HALL.
MY NAME IS ALBERTA KLINK SCALES AND I'M THE CEO FOR THE COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION ALLIANCE, WHICH IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, ORGANIZATION.
I AM HERE BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN SENDING COUNCIL INFORMATION ABOUT A COMMUNITY VISION PLANNING PROCESS, UM, THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL TO CONDUCT, UM, FOR NEIGHBORHOODS IN HISTORIC SOUTH MELBOURNE.
SO WE HAVE FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN HISTORIC SOUTH MELBOURNE.
I WISH I COULD GIVE IT TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN READ ALONG WITH ME.
IS THAT OKAY? CAN YOU STOP THE CLOCK OR YOU WANT ME TO JUST FINISH AND THEN PASS IT OUT? YEAH, JUST FINISH AND, OKAY.
AND SO, UM, SO WE HAVE FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT AREA.
UM, HISTORIC SOUTH MELBOURNE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA, UH, PLANNING COUNCIL IN ORDER TO DO, UM, COMMUNITY VISIONING SESSIONS AND COME UP WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD CONCEPT PLAN.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN INVITING THE CITY BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO BE A PART OF THAT.
'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT DO THIS WORK WITHOUT HAVING OUR OFFICIALS GIVE US PERMISSION ON CERTAIN THINGS.
UM, SO TODAY I'M HERE TO ASK FOR, UM, MARCUS SMITH HAD INFORMED THE COMMUNITY ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD STUDY THAT THE CITY MIGHT HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SOUTH MELBOURNE.
AND SO WE HAVE, UH, IN TOTAL FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
ONE IS IN PALM BAY, FOUR IS IN MELBOURNE.
SO WE ARE ASKING $40,000 TO HELP WITH THIS PROCESS.
THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL IS PUTTING IN $25,000 TO DO THE VISIONING PROCESS.
AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE CITY TO DO IS TO HELP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN PART OF IT.
SO I'M GIVING YOU THE SCOPE OF WORK SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE OUTCOMES THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
AND THEN, UM, UH, OUR ORGANIZATION, THE COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION ALLIANCE, WILL BE THE ORGANIZATION THAT MAKES SURE THAT WHATEVER THE PLAN IS, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED.
WE ARE LOCATED AT THE EVANS CENTER, UH, WE CALL IT THE EVANS CENTER FOR COLLABORATION.
WE GOT THAT LEASE WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
PALM BAY HAS ALREADY BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE LOGISTICS MEETINGS.
SO THE, AT THE LAST MEETING, DENISE CARTER AND AL, UM, UH, UH, WHAT'S HER NAME? ALTHEA AL.
SHE'S NEW TO ME, BUT I MET HER.
SHE WAS ON THE CALL AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHATEVER COMES OUTTA THIS, IT MIGHT BECOME A PART OF THEIR, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO THEY HAVE DECIDED THAT THEY WILL BE PUTTING IN SOMETHING THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IN THE 50, BUT
'CAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS POWELL SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ALSO DRISCOLL HEIGHTS.
UM, BUT HERE WE HAVE GRAMBLING PARK FOR MELBOURNE, WE HAVE FOUR.
WE ARE ASKING THEM FOR 10 BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE.
UM, GRAMBLING PARK, WE HAVE THE PRESIDENTS LISTED ON YOUR INFORMATION.
TWO OF THE PRESIDENTS ARE HERE.
UM, HAROLD CUMMINGS IS THE PRESIDENT.
UM, COLORED TOWN NOW CALLED FOUNDERS TOWN.
UH, JOE MCNEIL, THE CONCERNED CITIZENS COMMITTEE OF SOUTH BREVARD WILL BE PICKING UP THAT AREA.
AND, UM, I TOLD YOU, GRAMBLING PARK, BOOKER HEIGHTS, BRIARWOOD PARK, AND FOUNDER TOWN.
SO CAN I GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION? SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL DISTRIBUTE IT.
I HAVE EIGHT COPIES FOR EVERYBODY.
WE TRIED TO GET A, AND I STILL SPEAK OR STOP.
SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT'S IN THE DOCUMENT? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
SO WHAT'S IN THE DOCUMENT IS, UM, OF COURSE ON TOP YOU HAVE THE VISIONING SESSIONS.
WE'LL START JULY THE 25TH, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE, OF COURSE, AT THE EVAN CENTER FOR COLLABORATION.
AND THEN THE SECOND, UH, DOCUMENT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHICH WE'RE ASKING FOR FUNDING FOR.
THE THIRD DOCUMENT IS A LETTER FROM EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL, UM, SOLIDIFYING THEIR COMMITMENT.
AND BECAUSE MARCUS HAD BROUGHT THE INFORMATION TO US, THEY WROTE THE LETTER DIRECTLY TO HIM.
AND THEN THE, UM,
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UM, UH, CONCEPTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS WITH RESIDENTS.NO, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, MAYOR, SO THIS IS, UH, THIS, AS WE KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, UH, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
UM, HISTORICALLY, UH, CRANE CREEK, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THIS EVANS CENTER IS JUST AS IS ON THE EDGE.
UH, IT'S IN PALM BAY, BUT AS WE KNOW, IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A PART OF THAT HISTORIC, UH, COMMUNITY WITH THAT MELBOURNE PALM BAY, UH, RELATIONSHIP.
SO I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT OUR DISCUSSION WILL BE ABOUT THIS TONIGHT, OR IS THIS JUST INFORMATION.
UH, BUT, UH, I JUST THANK YOU MS. ALBERTA FOR MM-HMM.
FOR PRESENTING THIS AND BRINGING THIS, AND I'VE ALSO, UH, HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN FLUX RIGHT NOW.
BUT THANK YOU FOR PRES PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION.
UM, AND MR. NEWMAN, I WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE YOU A SPECIAL MESSAGE.
THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING TO SEE YOU, SO I'M GONNA INVITE YOU AGAIN TO A COMMUNITY MEETING.
EVERY TIME I'VE BEEN INVITED, I'VE CALLED EXCEPT FOR, I THINK YOU INVITED ME TO SOMETHING ON THE, THE DAY BEFORE.
THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY PROBLEM.
MARK HOLSHOE, THEN FOLLOWED BY KIM MERRI, STILL HAVING THE PROBLEM PRONOUNCING MY NAME.
I'M MARK HOLSHOE, BORN AND RAISED HERE IN MELBOURNE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK NOTE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO PRE PLEASE RERE THE, UH, PUTTING THE BENCHES BACK IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE.
SO THE OLDER FOLKS FROM TRINITY TOWERS WHERE I LIVE NOW, CAN GO DOWNTOWN AND AT LEAST HAVE A PLACE TO SIT.
IF WE SIT ANYWHERE, WE SIT ON THE EDGES OF THE GLASS WINDOWS THERE AND THE HOME, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS COME OUT THERE AND THEY YELL, THEY CUSS AT US AND SUCH.
SO IT'S NOT DOING US ANY GOOD TO GO DOWN THERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY DOWN THERE.
ONE BIT OF GOOD NEWS I WANT TO PASS ON.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCILS TO RECOGNIZE THE TWO OFFICERS THAT ARE SITTING OUTSIDE HERE THAT COME WALKING THROUGH.
THEY DO A GREAT WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ON FACEBOOK.
YOU KNOW, I, I WILL SAY, UH, THAT I, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED AT THIS TIME, AND WE CAN LOOK ABOUT PUTTING THE BENCHES BACK IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE.
I KNOW A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN REGARDS TO SAFETY.
A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE BY OUR, OUR CITY.
AND AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT, MR. NEWMAN.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.
AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GETTING THE BENCHES BACK IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE? WHAT DID BE THE EXACT SAME ONES OR SOMETHING NEW? I THINK THEY'RE THE SAME ONES.
THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO SAY.
UM, AT FIRST I WANNA, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MARCUS SMITH, UM, FOR INVITING ME, UH, TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS AND INTRODUCE MYSELF TO MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO HASN'T MET ME YET, OR HASN'T, UM, HAS HAD A, A SECOND WITH ME.
UM, I ALSO WANNA SAY I WAS SO PROUD TONIGHT, UH, AND TOUCHED TO, UH, BE ASKED TO STAND WITH PARKS AND REC TONIGHT BECAUSE, UM, I, I KNOW THAT I'VE, I WATCH ALL THE, UM, I, I WATCH ALL THE MEETINGS A DAY LATER, SOMETHING.
AND I KNOW I WAS CALLED CONCESSIONAIRE ONE NIGHT, AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, I, MY HEART BROKE.
I, I FELT I, I'M JUST A CONCESSIONAIRE.
AND, UM, SO TONIGHT MADE IT VERY CLEAR, UH, WHEN I WAS ASKED TO STAND WITH THEM, THAT I'M PART OF THE TEAM.
I'M PART OF THE, THE TEAM WITH THE CITY.
UH, I'VE DONE AN EXCESS OF 1800 EVENTS WITH THE CITY.
UM, I THINK WE'VE MADE A LOT OF 'EM REALLY, REALLY HAPPY.
UM, IN THE PAST THOUGH, UH, THIS SHORT DISTANCE, UM, WE'VE HAD A A, A FEW PEOPLE, I KNOW, I'VE HEARD SOME THINGS FROM THE CITY.
WHEN THE PEOPLE MET WITH ME, THEY SAID EVERYTHING WAS GREAT.
UM, SO I JUST, I WANNA TELL YOU, IT'S BECOME A, AND MR. RUSSO AND I HAD A FEW MINUTES TO, TO CHAT.
FOOD AND BEVERAGE HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
AND, UM, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I'VE LIVED HERE, UH, SINCE 1979.
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UH, OWNED MY FIRST RESTAURANT IN MELBOURNE BEACH IN 1994.STILL GOING, THAT RESTAURANT STILL GOING STRONG TODAY, UH, WAS AT SPENCER HOLLAND GOLF COURSE, OWNED A ARENA COUNTRY CLUB.
THERE'S ONLY SEVEN, SEVEN OF US IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT HAVE CEC ON THEIR JACKET.
FEEL I'M VERY QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION I'M IN.
UH, AND I'VE CERTAINLY WORKED VERY HARD TO GET THERE.
UM, I KNOW MY PARENTS, SOMEBODY SAID, WHAT WOULD YOUR PARENTS THINK OF YOU SELLING HOT DOGS IN A CONCESSION AFTER ALL THEM YEARS IN JOHNSON AND WALES AND YOUR INTERNSHIP IN LONG ISLAND? AND I SAID, I THINK THAT MY FATHER WOULD THINK I BETTER BE DOING IT PRETTY GOOD AND PRETTY WELL.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT ANYBODY THAT HAS MET ME, UM, ESPECIALLY, UM, I KNOW MR. SMITH, HE KNOWS I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I DO.
AND EVERY JOB I DO FOR THE CITY, UH, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I CAN TELL YOU THE CONCESSIONAIRE.
UH, I DO A LITTLE BIT OF CONCESSIONARY.
I DO ABOUT 17 TO 20, UH, JOBS A MONTH WHERE WE OPEN THE CONCESSION AND MY STAFF SELLS HOT DOGS.
I'M NEVER, I'M NEVER NOT PRESENT.
BUT FOR THE BETTER PART, THERE'S THINGS LIKE THIS PAST MEL BOOM.
I BELIEVE THAT GINA AND I STARTED ON THAT A YEAR AGO, AND WE WORKED ENDLESS HOURS TOGETHER.
AND, UH, AND I DON'T GET PAID FOR ANY HOURS.
I ALWAYS SAY, I THINK AT THE END OF THE YEAR, I MAKE ABOUT $2 AN HOUR.
AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE I LOVE WHAT I DO, AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I DO.
UM, THE, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WAS SAID, UH, THAT REALLY BOTHERED ME.
IT SAID THAT I HOLD PEOPLE HOSTAGE FOR A, A BUDGET.
SO I CAN TELL YOU I BROUGHT A NICE BROCHURE THAT DOES HAVE CUT AND DRY PRICES IN IT.
I'M AT THAT MELBOURNE AUDITORIUM ALMOST EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR DOING SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S EVEN HAVING LUNCH WITH PATTY OR, UM, HANGING OUT WITH THE GUYS THE WAY I DID COME ABOUT.
UH, KURT BENI WAS SUPERVISOR, AND I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB BECAUSE I'M ALSO INSIDE OF EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE.
I KEEP EVERYBODY EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE, EATON HEALTHY, SAFE, AND NOT BREAKING LAWS.
UM, KURT BENI, HE APPROACHED ME AND HE SAID THEY'RE BREAKING LAWS WITH LIQUOR INSIDE OF THE, INSIDE OF THE, UH, AUDITORIUM.
UM, I'M LUCKY ENOUGH, WE HAVE GOT LEGAL IN OUR FAMILY AND OUR, IN OUR, AND WE'VE GOT, UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, DIANE WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHO'S BEEN THE SUPERVISOR FOR 36 YEARS, WORKS SIDE BY SIDE WITH ME EVERY DAY.
WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA READ A PAPER THAT SAYS SOMEBODY GOT SICK AT MELBOURNE AUDITORIUM.
AND, UH, AND I MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S A FOOD TRUCK, I GIVE THEM A WAY HARDER TIME THAN THE, THAN ANYBODY ELSE DOES, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE MAKING.
'CAUSE HEALTH, FOOD, TRUCKS, I HAD ONE MYSELF FOR 30 YEARS ALMOST.
AND, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, THAT IT'S HARD TO KEEP A, A FOOD TRUCK HEALTHY AND SAFE.
SO I MAKE SURE I WORK WITH THE POLICE.
WE MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY'S OVERDRINKING.
WE MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE LIQUOR'S COMING IN FROM THE RIGHT PLACES AND THAT, UH, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT AND LEGAL.
SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL, THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY HERE FOR.
BECAUSE I THINK FOOD AND SERVICE, UH, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT THAT UNLESS THEY'VE, THEY MIGHT'VE WORKED INTO MCDONALD'S WHEN THEY WERE IN COLLEGE OR SOMETHING.
BUT, UM, AND I KNOW MR. RUSSO, I APPRECIATE, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU DO UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY WHERE THAT LIQUOR LICENSE IS CONCERNED.
AND, UM, 'CAUSE IT'S A BIG, HUGE UNDERTAKING IN RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP EVERYBODY, UH, FROM, FROM GETTING HURT.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, I LEARNED THAT THE HARD WAY DOWN IN AINA, WE HAD, UH, SOMEBODY THAT I ONLY SERVED ONE, ONE DRINK TO.
UNFORTUNATELY, HE HAD FOUR BEFORE THAT, AND HE HIT A FREE ELAS TRUCK AND, AND KILLED SOMEBODY.
SO I, I LEARNED BY MY MISTAKES IN THE HARD WAY.
I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I DO, AND I'M HERE TO KEEP THE, EVERYBODY EATING IN, IN BREVARD HEALTHY AND SAFE.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I, I, I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE 'EM.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A BROCHURE SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT, UH, BUDGET.
UH, THAT'S A FUNNY THING BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE COME TO ME, I JUST HAD A GROUP OF PEOPLE COME TO ME AND, UH, ESPECIALLY I WANNA TELL YOU THAT FUNDRAISING PEOPLE, THEY ASK FOR DONATIONS.
THEY'LL SAY, LISTEN, IF YOU GIVE US 2,500 IN FOOD, WE'LL GIVE YOU A RECEIPT SAYING YOU GAVE US 3,500.
BUT I WAS JUST ASKED TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE SAME PERSON THAT CAME TO YOU GUYS COMPLAINING THAT I WAS NOT THERE PERSON.
SO THERE'S, I'M VERY REACHABLE.
PATTY CAN TELL YOU, SHE GETS ME IN MINUTES.
AND, UH, IF YOU EVER HAVE QUESTIONS, I KNOW, UH, SOMETIMES KRISTEN FROM PARKS AND REC WILL CALL ME AND SAY, HEY KIM, WHAT'S THE LEGAL LAWS ON THIS? AND I KNOW IT.
AND IF I DON'T KNOW IT, WE GET SOMEBODY RIGHT ON THE PHONE BECAUSE I DON'T EXPECT ANYBODY TO KNOW FOOD AND BEVERAGE.
BUT I COULD TELL YOU, UH, UH, MY PARENTS BOUGHT THEIR FIRST RESTAURANT IN ON 1958.
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I WASN'T BORN UNTIL 61.THAT'S HOW LONG I'VE BEEN IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS.
UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
STEFAN, STEFAN HARTMAN AND FOLLOWED BY KEVIN MABU.
HEY, STEFAN HARTMAN, 2 1 9 6 COLONY DRIVE.
I SIT ON THE PLANNING ZONING AND CRA JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF THINGS I'VE HEARD, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
UH, ONE THING IS, UM, STILL THERE ARE HOMELESS.
UH, THEY ARE STILL CAUSING SOME ISSUES FOR, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS THERE.
UH, SECOND, UH, THE TRAIN, NOT THE BRIGHT LINE.
THE OTHER TRAIN, WHEN IT SPEEDS BY, IT'S VERY LOADED WITH THESE ROCKS AND THESE ROCKS SPRAY.
AND THEY START SHOOTING AT PEDESTRIANS WHEN IT COMES ACROSS THE TRAIN TRACKS.
SO, UH, THIS IS GONNA, AN INJURY WAITING TO HAPPEN.
SOMEBODY'S GONNA LOSE AN EYE AT SOME POINT.
SO SOMEBODY NEEDS ATTACK TO THIS TRAIN AND SAY, STOP FILLING THE GRAVEL.
OR, UM, I DUNNO, BUILD A WALL, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA HIT SOMEBODY AT SOME POINT, THESE ROCKS.
UM, AND THEN THIRD, THERE WAS A GREAT FACEBOOK POST RECENTLY FROM DESTINATION BREVARD ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS, THINGS THAT WORK.
THE COMMON THEMES ARE VACANT BUILDINGS, HOW TO INCENTIVIZE THESE, HOW TO GET PEOPLE TO THERE, RENOVATING THINGS.
UM, ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS, I WAS COMING TO YOU GUYS SOON ON THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, IS PERHAPS REMOVING PERMITTING FEES ASSOCIATED WITH RENOVATING SOME OF THESE VACANT BUILDINGS.
THAT'S JUST ONE IDEA I THREW OUT THERE THAT'S GONNA COME TO YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON OTHER THINGS TO BE, WOULD BE INCENTIVIZING BUSINESSES TO COME IN THERE, PERHAPS, UH, GIVING THEM MAYBE SOME TAX, UM, TAX FORBEARANCES.
SOMETHING THAT CAN SAY, HEY, I WANNA START A BUSINESS THERE.
BECAUSE MELBOURNE IS A PLACE THAT WANTS BUSINESSES TO HELP REDEVELOP THIS DOWNTOWN AREA THAT'S REALLY STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK IF WE, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS AND WE SHOULD START TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE.
YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING BACK THE BENCHES.
WE DON'T WANT THE HOMELESS SLEEPING ON THE BENCHES.
YOU GUYS DO HAVE SECURITY THERE.
I SAW THEM, I MET WITH THE TWO GUYS.
UH, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A, A REAL SOLUTION TO THE HOMELESS PROBLEM JUST YET.
AND THEN, UH, YEAH, WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON THE SOLUTION, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO BRING FOCUS BACK TO THAT DOWNTOWN AREA.
'CAUSE IT'S REALLY THE, THE HEART OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
AND WHEN IT SHINES, IT'S GONNA REALLY REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.
AND KEVIN MABRY, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME THE CHANCE TO SPEAK.
UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE EVER.
I WORK AS THE IT MANAGER, UH, LOCALLY WHERE PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITY IS PROTECTING ORGANIZATIONAL DATA, CONTROLLING ACCESS, EVALUATING VENDORS, AND IDENTIFYING RISKS BEFORE THEY BECOME INCIDENTS.
FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO TERMINATE MELBOURNE'S, UH, CONTRACT WITH FLOCK SAFETY.
OR IF IMMEDIATE TERMINATION IS NOT LEGALLY POSSIBLE TO SUSPEND ITS USE AND DECLINE TO RENEW IT.
I AM NOT CLAIMING THAT FLOCK IS CURRENTLY SELLING MELBOURNE RESIDENTS INFORMATION.
MY CONCERN IS THAT RESPONSIBLE DATA SECURITY CANNOT DEPEND ON PROMISES, GOOD INTENTIONS, OR A POLICY POSTED ON A COMPANY WEBSITE.
IT DEPENDS ON ENFORCEABLE CONTRACTS, STRICT ACCESS CONTROL, INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT, DATA MINIMIZATION, AND PREPARATION FOR THE FACT THAT COMPANIES LEADERSHIP, OWNERSHIP AND TECHNOLOGY CAN CHANGE FLOCK'S, CURRENT STANDARDS TERM, UH, CURRENT STANDARD TERMS, GRANT THE COMPANY AN IRREVOCABLE PERPETUAL WORLDWIDE LICENSE TO USE CUSTOMER DATA TO PROVIDE ITS SERVICES AND TO SUPPORT AND IMPROVE ITS PRODUCTS.
FLOCK SAYS IT DOES NOT SELL CUSTOMER DATA, BUT IT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IT REMOVED AN EARLIER SENTENCE EXPLICITLY STATING THAT IT WOULD NOT SELL THAT DATA.
THAT AMBIGUITY SHOULD CONCERN EVERY RESIDENT WHOSE VEHICLE IS RECORDED.
THIS SYSTEM CREATES A SEARCHABLE HISTORY OF WHERE VEHICLES HAVE BEEN SEEN.
THAT INFORMATION CAN REVEAL WHERE PEOPLE WORK, WORSHIP, RECEIVE MEDICAL CARE, ATTEND POLITICAL EVENTS, AND VISIT FRIENDS OR FAMILY RESIDENTS CANNOT CONSENT, NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OR OPT OUT, YET THEIR MOVEMENTS BECOME PART OF A PRIVATELY OPERATED DATA SYSTEM.
LA RECENTLY STOPPED USING FLOCK AFTER ITS AGREEMENT EXPIRED.
LAPD OFFICIALS SAID THEY WOULD NOT CONTINUE TO CONCERNS INVOLVING CIVIL LIBERTIES.
DATA OWNERSHIP, PRIVACY, SECURITY AND SHARING WERE RESOLVED THROUGH AN ENFORCEABLE CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP.
MELBOURNE SHOULD APPLY THE SAME STANDARD.
CAN THE CITY POINT TO EXACT LANGUAGE IN
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ITS SIGNED CONTRACT THAT PERMANENTLY PROHIBITS FLOCK? ITS SUBCONTRACTORS, SUCCESSORS IN ANY FUTURE PURCHASER FROM SELLING, LICENSING, TRANSFERRING, MONETIZING, OR COMMERCIALLY EXPLOITING RESIDENTS AND IDENTIFIABLE DATA OR INFORMATION DERIVED FROM IT.DOES THAT PROTECTION SURVIVE THE END OF THE CONTRACT? IS DELETION INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIABLE? CAN THE CITY AUDIT COMPLIANCE WHAT MEANINGFUL REMEDY EXISTS IF THE DATA IS MISUSED OR TRANSFERRED? IF THESE PROTECTIONS ARE NOT CLEARLY WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT, THEN THE CITY CANNOT GUARANTEE RESIDENTS THAT THEIR MOVEMENTS WILL NEVER BECOME A CORPORATE ASSET.
IF INFORMATION IN THE FIELD OF INFORMATION SECURITY, WE DO NOT JUDGE A SYSTEM ONLY BY WHAT ITS CURRENT OPERATORS INTEND TO DO.
WE JUDGE IT BY WHAT MAKES THE SYSTEM, OR EXCUSE ME, BY WHAT THE SYSTEM MAKES POSSIBLE.
PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD NOT REQUIRE THE CITY TO CREATE A PRIVATELY CONTROLLED RECORD OF INNOCENT PEOPLE'S MOVEMENTS.
AND THEN IT TRUST THAT IT NEVER BE MISUSED.
AND AS SUCH, I ASK THE COUNCIL TO END THE CONTRACT.
UH, REAL QUICK, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO ON, ON THE BLOCK.
UM, I KNOW IT HAS SOME, A LOT OF GOOD LAW ENFORCEMENT BENEFITS, BUT AS YOU DO SEE AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN SOME MISUSE, UH, AND ABSOLUTELY POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I'M, YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA END UP, UH, SPEAKING TO OUR CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN A COUNCIL UPCOMING SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SO EVEN PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, FLOCK BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNET.
PEOPLE SAY, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS, IS, IS AGAIN, WE DO HAVE, UH, RIGHTS AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, OUR RIGHTS, YOU KNOW, TAKEN FROM US.
SO, UM, I WILL BE BRINGING, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION, NOT SAYING PRO OR FOR, BUT THE REALITY IS, IF YOU WERE TO ASK ANYBODY, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I'M NOT GONNA PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT, OF COURSE, TO TELL US MORE ABOUT THE FLOC, YOU KNOW, WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW A LOT OF STUFF WE DON'T KNOW.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF A HOT TOPIC NOW WHERE PEOPLE WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT FLOCK AND WHAT'S DOING.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CUTTING 'EM DOWN, YOU KNOW, AND USING GREEN LASERS THERE.
I'VE BEEN SA LOT ABOUT 'EM LOT AND, AND SO MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD TO DISCUSS THAT NOT, AGAIN, NOT SAYING WE'RE GETTING RID OF 'EM OR WE'RE GONNA KEEP 'EM, BUT I DO WANT, YOU KNOW, MORE INFORMATION ON 'EM.
UH, AND I WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE DATA IS, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT.
UM, I'VE SEEN A FEW THINGS, AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ACCURATE, BUT THEY'VE HAD IN, IN PARKS, UH, NOT, NOT US PER SE, BUT THAT TO ME THAT'S CONCERNING.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE LICENSE PLATE READERS, AND THAT'S ONE THING MM-HMM
BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE IT IF IT'S GONNA SURVEIL PEOPLE, ET CETERA.
I THINK WE STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR PRIVACY.
I KNOW THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT THINK THAT THERE ISN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, THEY CAN PUT A MIC IN YOUR FACE AND SAY, YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY.
EVERYBODY DESERVES SOME KIND OF PRIVACY.
I THINK THERE'S A DISTINCT LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE SYSTEMS THAT FLOCK INTRODUCES.
AND, UM, I JUST THINK THE PEOPLE AND THE CONSTITUENTS OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE DESERVE TO BE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THEIR MOVEMENTS AND THEIR CARS AND THEIR DATA AT ALL TIMES.
NO, AND I, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY INTERESTING, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ALL THE FLOCK CAMERAS ARE NOW.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE, THERE'S, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ABOUT EVERYWHERE.
AND IT, YOU GO CITY TO CITY AND IT'S JUST, YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST AMAZING.
I'M, I'M, I'VE BEEN AGAIN, DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THAT AND, BUT I, I'LL DEFINITELY BRING SOME MORE BACK, SOME MORE INFORMATION IF WE CAN.
I KNOW YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S GOT, IT'S A GREAT LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOL.
BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ANY TOOL IS GOOD FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT UNLESS IT'S ABUSED.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT THERE ARE DOCUMENTED CASES OF MISUSE OF FLOCK SYSTEMS AMONG LAW ENFORCEMENT.
NOW, I WOULD NE I'M NOT CLAIMING THAT THIS HAS EVER OCCURRED IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BUT THERE ARE CASES IN WHICH THIS HAS OCCURRED.
WELL, AND A GOOD THING ABOUT ABOUT IT THOUGH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'D LIKE FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW OFTEN IS IT AUDITED, UH, IS IT AVAILABLE? YOU KNOW, IS IT AVAILABLE EXACTLY FOR PUBLIC VIEW, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE BRINGING BOARD AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND BRINGING THAT CONCERN.
'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE GONNA HEAR, HEAR A LOT MORE OF THIS KIND OF CONCERN.
AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GIVING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME, COMING OUT AND SPEAKING ABOUT THIS.
SHOULD WE SLATE THAT FOR ONE OF THE AUGUST MEETINGS? YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH, WE'LL GET TOGETHER AND AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL KIND OF GET ONE TO GET, YOU KNOW, AND GET, GET THAT KIND OF INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE
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DOING, HOW THE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTION OUT THERE ON WHAT FLOCK IS, WHAT IT DOES.UM, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND PEOPLE KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT IT'S USED FOR AND HAS IT HELPED US? I'M SURE IT HAS, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S, YOU CAN'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNET OUT RIGHT NOW.
SO, ALL RIGHT, THEN THAT'S GONNA, I'M GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND
[8. Ordinance No. 2026-26, Zoning Text Amendment CB-OZ Extension Request: (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance amending City Code, Appendix B, Article V, Section 3(B) Central Business Overlay Zone, extending the zone for 4.25 acres. (Applicant - Kelly Delmonico, Land Development Strategies) (P&Z Board - 5/21/2026) (First Reading - 6/9/2026)]
WHEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UNFINISHED BUSINESS.UNFINISHED BUSINESS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE EXPANSION OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS OVERLAY ZONE CBOZ, MAKING FINDINGS AMENDING APPENDIX B OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ZONING, AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE, DISTRICT REGULATIONS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
THANK YOU, MR. UH, COLLEY SPEAKING ON, THIS IS MS. CINDY DITMER.
CINDY DITMER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD FOR SECOND READING ON THIS ORDINANCE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THOUGH.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DITMER? OKAY.
WE HAVE A SIGNUP SHEET, NO SIGNUP SHEET.
BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL MAYOR.
UH, MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 26 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEMORANDUM.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO IS NOT PRESENT.
[9. Task Order No. DRMP-U-2025-003 to the Continuing Contract for Professional Consulting Services for the Croton Road Reclaimed Water Main Extension, Project No. 34122, DRMP, Inc., Merritt Island, FL - $179,625.]
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER NINE.IT'S GONNA BE REGARDING A TASK ORDER REPORT.
GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, TASK ORDER NUMBER D-R-M-P-U 20 25 0 0 3 IS FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR OUR, UH, CROTON ROAD RECLAIMED WATER MAIN EXTENSION.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE A 10 INCH, UH, WATER MAIN.
THE TERMINUS OF IT IS AT, UH, CROTON ROAD AND PARKWAY DRIVE.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES, UH, TO EXTEND THAT MAIN, UH, NORTH ON CROTON ALL THE WAY TO, UH, TO WICKHAM PARK TO THE EAST SIDE OF WICKHAM PARK.
RIGHT AT THE SOCCER FIELDS, IT'S ABOUT 2,600 LINEAR FEET IN LENGTH.
AND, UH, WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO, IT'S GONNA GIVE US THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE WICKHAM PARK WITH RECLAIMED WATER, AND THEN ULTIMATELY IN, IN FUTURE, UH, FUTURE PHASE EXTENSION, UH, UH, EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE.
SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE HOPEFUL TO PICK UP TWO LARGE SCALE, UH, REUSE CUSTOMERS THROUGH THIS PROJECT.
AND THAT'S GONNA ALSO HELP US MEET OUR, UH, CONSUMPTIVE USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT WHERE, UH, UH, OUR GOAL IS TO, TO PROVIDE A, A PORTION OF OUR, OF OUR, UH, OUR REUSE EFFLUENT, BASICALLY AS OUR, OUR EFFLUENT AS REUSE.
40% IS THAT NUMBER, THAT NUMBER IS DIFFICULT TO GET TO BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE CITY'S DEVELOPED, UH, AREA AND, UH, RECLAIM PROJECTS ARE, ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE.
SO HAVING CUSTOMERS, UH, THAT, THAT WE CAN SERVE RIGHT OFF THE BAT BY DOING A, UM, A TENANT INCH EXTENSION LIKE THIS IS, IS REALLY ADVANTAGEOUS.
SO THE FEE FOR THE SCOPE OF SERVICE SERVICES IS $179,625.
UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT 320 DAYS, UH, TO, TO DO THE DESIGN WORK.
AND SO OUR REQUEST TO COUNSEL IS APPROVAL OF, UH, D-R-M-P-U 20 25 0 0 3, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $179,625.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAKER? ALRIGHT.
DO WE HAVE, UH, UH, A MOTION MAYOR, GO AHEAD, SIR.
MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER DRMP DASH U DASH 2025 DASH 0 0 3 TO DRMP INC.
MERIT ISLAND, FLORIDA FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE CROTON ROAD RECLAIMED WATER MAIN EXTENSION PROJECT NUMBER 3 4 1 2 2 IN THE AMOUNT OF $179,625.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
[10. Task Order No. DRMP-U-2025-004 to the Continuing Contract for Professional Consulting Services for the Lift Station No. 12 Force Main Replacement, Project No. 32324, DRMP, Inc., Merritt Island, FL - $197,075.]
MR. BAKER, NUMBER 10, PLEASE.UM, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS D-R-M-P-U 20 25 0 0 4 FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE LIFT STATION.
UH, FORCE MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT, LIFT STATION NUMBER 12, UH, IS LOCATED, UH, JUST ON THE WEST SIDE OF US, ONE RIGHT AT OLD COLONIAL WAY.
UM, AND, AND THE STATION WAS REPLACED IN 2014.
UH, SO IT'S A NEW STATION RELATIVELY, IT RUNS WELL, BUT WE DO HAVE A REALLY OLD FORCE MAIN FORCE MAIN'S MADE OF THIS OLD MATERIAL THAT YOU FIND IN THE FIELD STILL THESE DAYS IT'S STARTING TO BECOME MORE RARE AND RARE, BUT IT'S, UH, ASBESTOS CEMENT.
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SO WE'VE MAINTAINED IT OVER THE YEARS, BUT IT HAS REACHED THE END OF ITS SERVICE LIFE.IT'S SIX INCH DIAMETER, UH, AND IT RUNS FROM THE STATION, UH, WESTWARD UNDER THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY, UH, UP NORTHWARD TO A MANHOLE WHERE IT, IT OUTFALLS, UH, INTO, UH, A POST ROAD RIGHT NEAR THE ROBIN HOOD INTERSECTION.
SO THIS CONSISTS OF, UH, OF THE OVERALL DESIGN WORK, UH, TO REPLACE THAT MAIN WITH, WITH A COMMON MATERIAL LIKE, UH, UH, PVC.
UM, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES PERMITTING, UM, THROUGH FDEP AND, UH, THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD.
OUR FEE FOR, UH, THIS DESIGN WORK IS 197,000, UH, $75.
UH, THE SCHEDULE FOR THE, THE DESIGN WORKS 365 DAYS.
SO OUR REQUEST TO COUNSEL IS FOR APPROVAL OF THESE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE LIST STATION NUMBER 12, FORCE COMMAND REPLACEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 197,000 0 7 5.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? MR. BAKER, FOR THIS ITEM? NO, UH, MR. RUSO.
HEY TOM, HOW YOU DOING? UH, GOOD SIR.
IS, UH, SIX INCHES OF, UH, IS THAT ADEQUATE? IT IS.
IT'S, AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
IT'S ADEQUATE BECAUSE OUR, OUR CURRENT MAINE THERE, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT A LARGE STATION AND OUR CURRENT MAIN SIX INCH AND, UH, WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY PRESSURE PROBLEMS WITH THAT MAINE.
SO IT'S, IT'S A GREAT THING IN TERMS OF THE, THE ENGINEERING DESIGN CAPACITY.
IT'S KIND OF PLUG AND PLAY FOR THE SIZE AND IT'S MORE OR LESS FIGURING OUT THE HARDER PART OF THIS ENGINEERING DESIGN IS GONNA BE THE CONFIGURATION UNDER THE FEC RAILWAY, GETTING THE PERMIT THROUGH THAT, AND THEN BASICALLY DOING OUR, OUR DESIGN WORK IN, WITHIN THE POST ROAD RIGHT AWAY.
WELL, I ONLY ASK BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, I ANOTHER 10, 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, COMING BACK TO DO THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO CHANGE THE DIAMETER OF THAT PIPE? THAT'S TRUE.
I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD IN THIS CASE BECAUSE LIFT STATION NUMBER TWELVE'S, UH, UH, FAIRLY, UH, THE, THE BASIN FOR IT, IF YOU WILL, THE OVERALL GRAVITY SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT FLOWS TO, IT'S PRETTY WELL DEFINED.
AND WE DO, THE CITY DOES HAVE QUITE A FEW STATIONS IN THE NEARBY VICINITY THAT, THAT ALSO, UM, ARE RIGHT ON THOSE DIVIDING LINES.
SO I DON'T SEE THIS BASIN REALLY INCREASING IN SIZE.
ANYBODY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, MR. BAKER? ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION MAYOR, MR. MANN? UH, MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER DRMP DASH U DASH 2 0 2 5 0 4 TO DRMP INC.
MERRITT ISLAND, FLORIDA FOR THE LIFT STATION NUMBER 12, FORCE MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT NUMBER 3 2 3 2 4 IN THE AMOUNT OF $197,075.
AND SECOND, I'LL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[11. Task Order No. CDM-09 to the Professional Services Agreement for the Hydrogeologic and Engineering Services for Water Production Wellfield Improvements for the Design of Production Well No. 8, Project No. 31323, CDM Smith, Inc., Maitland, FL - $437,235.]
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.ITEM NUMBER 11 IS, UH, OUR TASK ORDER CDM ZERO NINE FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR OUR, UH, OUR WATER PRODUCTION.
WELL NUMBER EIGHT, UH, ADDED OUR REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
UM, WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR, UH, WATER PRODUCTION WELLS IN OUR WELL FIELD, BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REACHING FINAL DESIGN FOR OUR, UH, REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION.
AND IN THAT EXPANSION'S GONNA RAISE THE, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE REVERSE OSMOSIS CAPACITY FROM 5 MILLION GALLON, 5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
AND SO, WELL NUMBER EIGHT IS NEEDED, UH, TO INCREASE THAT RAW WATER CAPACITY FOR THE, FOR OUR, UH, OUR UPCOMING, UH, REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANT EXPANSION.
UM, SO, SO, UH, I ALSO NEED TO MENTION TO COUNCIL, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT THOSE FOUR WELLS THAT ARE IN SERVICE RIGHT NOW, AND WE ACTUALLY, SO THAT'S, WE CALL THOSE WELLS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
WE ALSO HAVE WELLS FIVE AND SIX THAT WE RECENTLY, UH, COMPLETED, UH, BELOW GROUND CONSTRUCTION ON, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO, UH, CONSTRUCT THE ABOVE GROUND IMPROVEMENTS FOR WELLS FIVE AND SIX, THAT'S PUMPS, UH, PIPING.
UH, SO, SO REALLY WHAT WELL NUMBER EIGHT IS IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH WELL NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS ALREADY ACTUALLY IN DESIGN.
WELL, NUMBER EIGHT, UH, IS, IS GONNA PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY TO INCREASE TO THE, THE 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
UH, OVERALL, I SHOULD MENTION TO COUNCIL TOO THAT WE, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BUILD OUT THE PLANT ONCE THE, THE REVERSE OSMOSIS, UH, PLANT EXPANSION'S DONE.
IT'S GONNA HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE BUILT OUT IN THE FUTURE FOR OVERALL, UH, DEMANDS THROUGH YEAR 2045 TO GET TO 15 MGD.
SO THE WELL FIELD, ULTIMATELY, WE'VE GOT FOUR ADDITIONAL FUTURE WELLS THAT WOULD BE, UH, WELLS 9, 10, 11, 12.
SO THOSE WILL COME IN THE FUTURE.
BUT, UH, THE DESIGN SERVICES FOR WELL NUMBER EIGHT, UH, INCLUDE THE, UH, OF COURSE,
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THE 3.1 MGD, THIS WELL NUMBER EIGHT, PRODUCTION, WELL, UH, VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVEN PUMP, UH, WELL PAD HEAD PIPING, UH, ELECTRICAL INSTRUMENTATION AND CONTROLS TO SUPPORT IT.AND THEN THE RAW WATER MAIN EX, UH, EXTENSION FROM WELL NUMBER EIGHT, UH, TO THE EXISTING MAIN AS WELL AS, UH, PERMITTING, BIDDING SERVICES.
UH, THE FEE AMOUNT IS $437,235.
AND OUR, UH, DESIGN SCHEDULE DURATIONS 336 CALENDAR DAYS.
AND, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL MIGHT HAVE.
LOTS OF LOTS OF INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THAT SHORT PRESENTATION THERE.
UH, CAN YOU SET A, JUST FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT WELLS ARE BEING COVERED.
YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE CURRENT WELLS WE HAVE, WHAT WELLS ARE BEING COVERED, AND THEN FUTURE WELLS.
AND THEN, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT REVERSE OSMOSIS ONCE YOU KINDA ANSWERED THAT BEFORE.
SO, SO RIGHT NOW, UM, WELLS NUMBER FOUR HAVE BEEN OPERATING SINCE RIGHT AROUND 1993.
THEY'LL CONTINUE TO REMAIN IN OPERATION.
AND THEN WELLS FIVE AND SIX WERE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED.
WERE ABOUT TO DO A SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UH, FOR WELLS FIVE AND SIX TO CONSTRUCT ABOVE GROUND IMPROVEMENTS FOR THOSE.
AND THEN, SO THIS PARTICULAR TASK ORDER IS REALLY FOR WELL NUMBER EIGHT.
AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY OF THEM.
THIS ONE REALLY JUST CONCERNS WELL NUMBER EIGHT.
BUT, UH, I PROBABLY CONFUSED COUNSEL A LITTLE BIT, AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT.
I, I, I WANTED TO TRY TO GIVE YOU THE WHOLE, THE BREADTH OF, OF REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE, UH, FOR THE EXPANSION FOR THE PLANT, BUT WELL, NUMBER SEVEN'S ALSO, UH, UH, IN DESIGN AND, UH, AND, AND IT'LL PROBABLY BE CONSTRUCTED JUST BEFORE, WELL, NUMBER EIGHT, I WOULD IMAGINE.
AND THEN YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT FUTURE WELLS THAT WE YES, SIR.
UP TO 12, IS THAT WHAT WE THAT'S RIGHT.
SO, AND, AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE, UH, THANKFULLY RIGHT NOW, UH, WELL NUMBER EIGHT IS GONNA SERVE US FOR, THAT'LL SERVE THE CITY WELL FOR THE, THE RO EXPANSION PROJECT, WHICH IS COMING UP, UH, WITHIN THE OVERALL, UM, FUTURE WELL FIELD.
THERE, THERE ARE FOUR ADDITIONAL WELLS, WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN THE DISTANT FUTURE TO GET UP TO, UH, THE, AN OVERALL BUILD OUT CAPACITY FOR THAT PLAN OF 15 MGD, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY CAN SERVE.
UH, ITS, ITS, ITS CITIZENS, ITS CUSTOMER BASE IN, IN THE, THE FAR DISTANT FUTURE YEAR 2045.
THAT PROVIDES A CLEAR PICTURE.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, YOU'VE MENTIONED REVERSE OSMOSIS SEVERAL TIMES, SO, AND I, I DON'T WANT ANY A DETAILED TECHNICAL DISCUSSION.
BUT ARE WE FULLY REVERSE OSMOSIS WILL TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OR DEPENDING ON THESE WELLS, OR CAN YOU JUST PROVIDE OH, SURE.
SO, SO RIGHT NOW, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE'RE WE'RE BLENDED WATER, SO WE'RE 20 PER, UH, WE'RE 20 MGD OF SURFACE WATER.
AND THEN, UM, WE'RE FIVE, M, G, D OF, UH, OF, OF WELL WATER.
BASICALLY WHAT THE EXPANSION'S GONNA DO, IT'S GONNA BRING US UP TO 10, MGD OF, OF, OF WELL WATER.
AND, AND THAT'S ALSO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA LET US REDUCE OUR SURFACE WATER TREATMENT CAPACITY A BIT, BECAUSE THE SURFACE WATER CAPACITY IS, IT'S, IT'S UNSTEADY, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON, ON LAKE LEVELS, IT DEPENDS ON WEATHER.
AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE GROUNDWATER, UM, IS IT'S, IT'S MUCH MORE STABLE OF A SOURCE.
UH, SO THESE ARE DEEP INJECTION WELLS, CORRECT? THEY'RE ACTUALLY, UH, UH, PRODUCTION WELLS.
SO, SO THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL GO DOWN TO, UH, ANYWHERE BETWEEN LIKE 600 FEET AND 900 FEET IN THE UPPER FLOOR IN AQUIFER.
AND, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE DEEP INJECTION WELLS, AND THE, THE DIFFERENCE WITH THOSE IS THOSE GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER DOWN TO THE BOULDER ZONE.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASICALLY BLOCKED BY A ZONE THAT THAT PREVENTS, UH, UH, UPFLOW BASICALLY.
RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION INTERNALLY ABOUT, UH, SEEKING SOME FUNDING, UH, FOR THOSE, UH, FROM, UH, FROM WASHINGTON.
SOME FEDERAL, SOME FEDERAL MONEY.
YEAH, FOR THE INJECTION WELLS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS CLEAR ON, UM, WHICH WELLS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S YES, SIR.
WELL, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED PRODUCTION WELLS.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? THANK YOU.
AND, AND ALSO, I, I, I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE ANY, UH, FEDERAL FUNDING THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO US, UH, THROUGH, UH, MR. H.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR 11, MAYOR, THAT SIR MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER CDM DASH ZERO NINE TO CDM SMITH, INC.
MAITLAND, FLORIDA, FOR THE HYDROGEOLOGIC AND ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR WATER PRODUCTION.
WELL FIELD IMPROVEMENTS, PROJECT NUMBER 3 1 3 2 3 IN THE AMOUNT OF $437,235
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SECOND.SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND BY MS. BASSETT, FOLLOWED IN BEVERAGE, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? HOW? VOTE I MOTION PASS.
[12. Task Order No. IEG-U-2025-001 to the Continuing Contract for Professional Consulting Services for the Inflow and Infiltration Study for the Grant Street Water Reclamation Facility Collection System, Project No. 37026, Infrastructure Engineering Group, LLC, Indian Harbour Beach, FL - $500,000.]
MR. BAKER.THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS IEGU 20 25 0 0 1.
THIS IS, UH, WITH OUR CONTINUING CONSULTANT INFRASTRUCTURE ENGINEERING GROUP FOR AN INFLOW AND INFILTRATION STUDY FOR THE WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT, UH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S CONNECTED TO THE GRANT STREET WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.
UH, WE RECENTLY COMPLETED, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY GETTING CLOSE TO COMPLETING A, UM, UH, UH, UH, AN, AN OVERALL, UH, WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY MASTER PLAN FOR, FOR, FOR BOTH FACILITIES.
WHAT WE'VE REALIZED IN THE MASTER PLAN STUDY IS THAT THE GRANT STREET PLANT, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S SO MUCH GRAVITY, MAINE, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE GRANT STREET PLANT, THERE'S LIKE 135 MILES OF GRAVITY, MAINE, AND I, I THINK ALMOST 3000, UH, UH, SEWER MANHOLES.
SO, UM, WHAT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN THE STUDY THOUGH, IS THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A REALLY LARGE AMOUNT OF, OF INFLOW AND INFILTRATION THAT THE, THAT THE, THE GRANT STREET, UH, WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY RECEIVES WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN WE HAVE A RAINFALL EVENT, LIKE WHEN RAINFALL HAPPENS, WE JUST SEE THIS, YOU'D SEE THIS STATIC INFLOW LEVEL, YOU KNOW, IN A NON, A NON WET WEATHER EVENT.
AND THEN WHEN THE WET WEATHER EVENT HITS, IT'S JUST THIS, IT'S THIS BIG SPIKE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, UM, IT'S, IT'S HIGHLY CORRELATED WITH THE RAINFALL.
SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT THIS STUDY'S GONNA ALLOW US TO DO, WE'RE BASICALLY GONNA DO, DO A BUNCH OF FLOW MONITORING, YOU KNOW, AND WITHIN THE PIPES AND MANHOLES INITIALLY THROUGHOUT THE OVERALL COLLECTION SYSTEM IN THAT FLOW MONITORING, MONITORING THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THE MACRO LEVEL OF THE SYSTEM, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE, THERE ARE HUGE PEAK FLOWS, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH WET WEATHER, AND THEN AREAS WHERE THERE, THERE AREN'T HIGH PEAK FLOWS.
AND, AND WHAT WE'LL DO WITH THAT, THAT INITIAL FLOW MONITORING INFORMATION IS WE'LL BREAK IT DOWN INTO, INTO, UH, BASICALLY FOCAL AREAS.
ONCE WE HAVE THESE AREAS WHERE WE KNOW WE'VE GOT HEAVY DUTY INFLOW AND INFILTRATION, WE'LL START DOING MORE FOCAL TESTING, LIKE SMOKE TESTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO, UH, TO PINPOINT WHERE WE'RE HAVING THIS HUGE I AND I ISSUE.
AND THEN, UH, THE STUDY'S ALSO GONNA, UH, PROVIDE US RECOMMENDATION FOR FIXING THAT.
INI, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE INI WHEN YOU HAVE IT, IS IT REALLY, UM, IT, IT, IT TAKES AWAY YOUR, YOUR AVAILABLE, UH, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPACITY.
SO, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT.
WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT IN, IN REPAIR OUR INI ISSUES THAT, THAT WE'VE RECENTLY NOTICED.
UM, THE FEE FOR THIS SCOPE OF SERVICES IS 500,000, AND OUR SCHEDULE WITH IEG IS, UH, 540 DAYS.
AND OUR REQUEST TO COUNSEL, UH, IS APPROVAL OF IEGU 20 25 0 0 1 FOR THE INFLOW AND INFILTRATION STUDY IN THE AMOUNT OF 500,000.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? UH, MR.
THIS, THIS IS NOT SPECIFIC TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, AGENDA ITEM PER SE, BUT IT IS SPECIFIC TO HOW MANY ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT WE USE.
UM, SO FAR I'VE COUNTED FOUR, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR IF 13 GOES THROUGH AFTER WE'VE LISTENED TO NUMBER 20, THEN THAT'LL BE FOUR.
AND THEN THERE'S EVEN MORE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT ARE, THAT ARE FOLLOWING UP.
IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT WE'RE USING TOO MANY, UH, ENGINEERS OR COULD SOME OF THIS BE, UH, CONSOLIDATED UNDER, UNDER ONE ROOF, UH, PER SE? UM, AND AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING IN FRONT OF YOUR BOSS HERE, YOU KNOW,
UM, I, I, I JUST FIND IT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING TO HAVE ALL OF THESE ENGINEERING FIRMS, UM, HAVE THEIR FINGER IN OUR PIE.
I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND, UH, IT DOES SEEM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'VE GOT FOUR OR FIVE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PROVIDING DIFFERENT SERVICES, IT, IT'S, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE AT TIMES YOU COULD CONSOLIDATE.
BUT, BUT THE ONE THING THAT, THAT WE REALLY DO, AND, AND I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY MAYBE JUST NOT WITHIN THIS INDUSTRY, BUT, BUT, BUT OTHER INDUSTRIES AS WELL, WE COULD RELATE TO THIS.
THERE ARE GONNA BE CERTAIN, UM, CONSULTING COMPANIES THAT SAY, DO GENERAL CIVIL, UH, YOU KNOW, SITE CIVIL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, BREAD AND BUTTER, YOU KNOW, PIPELINE WORK.
LET'S SAY FORCE MAIN EXTENSIONS MAYBE, OR RECLAIMED WATER MAIN EXTENSIONS.
AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE THESE, THESE DIFFERENT, UH, OUTFITS THAT ARE, THAT ARE HIGHLY SKILLED AT PLANT WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ONE, ONE OF THOSE I WOULD SAY WOULD BE IEG, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO I, I THINK IN, IN LOOKING AT IT, UM, IT, IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE, TO THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S NEEDED IN, IN THIS
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CASE, I THINK IIEG FITS THE BILL PERFECTLY FOR DOING THIS TYPE OF STUDY FOR US, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT OTHER, OTHER THINGS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTING A LIFT STATION OR CONSTRUCTING A PIPELINE, YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT SOME OPTIONS IN TERMS OF GENERAL CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.UH, SO, SO YOU'VE GOT FOUR ITEMS HERE THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TONIGHT, AND WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT ENGINEERS.
SO IT CAUSES ME REASON TO, TO PAUSE AND SEE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHY DO WE NEED SO MANY OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE YOUR, UH, WHEELHOUSE, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THERE SO MANY MORE ENGINEERS THAN, THAN WHAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD REALLY NEED? BUT OF COURSE, YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE PROFESSIONAL.
AND SO I, I GO BY, YOU KNOW, YOUR RECOMMENDATION, OF COURSE MM-HMM
SLAM, WHO IS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, OF COURSE.
UH, SO, UM, UH, THOSE ARE JUST THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I, I'M TRYING TO DRILL DOWN INTO SOME, NO OFFENSE MEANT, UM, BUT, UH, NOT AT ALL.
UH, BUT, UH, YEAH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF, LOT OF CONSULTANTS AND A LOT OF CONTINUING CONTRACTS JUST SEEM TO BE COMING BEFORE US.
I JUST WANT YOU TO GIVE PAUSE FOR, FOR THOUGHT, THAT'S ALL.
I, I DO THINK JUST TO, TO KIND OF ADD TO TO YOUR THOUGHTS, REALLY, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GIST OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, I, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE SEE TOO IS, IS REALLY THE, UM, AND, AND THIS HELPS US WORKING WITH THI THIS IS, I THINK, A HUGE BENEFIT OF WORKING WITH MULTIPLE CONSULTANTS.
IS I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT IS THE WORKLOAD OUT AND, AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EACH CONSULTANT TO BASICALLY UTILIZE THEIR STAFF AND, AND PUT THEM IN A POSITION TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH DELIVERING THE SERVICE WITHIN THAT, UH, THAT SCHEDULED TIMEFRAME.
ONE THING THAT I HAVE NOTICED OVER THE YEARS IS, IS, AND, AND I THINK YOU COULD RELATE TO, TO THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, INTERNALLY, YOU CAN RELATE TO IT EXTERNALLY AS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT, THAT YOU'RE SITUATED AND, AND YOU'RE NOT OVERTAXING, UH, ONE PARTICULAR GROUP.
BECAUSE I HAVE NOTICED THAT WHAT, WHETHER IT'S IT'S ME OR WHETHER, WHETHER IT'S A CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I'M OVERLOADED, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES ON TIME.
AND THAT ONE OF THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE I'VE GONE THROUGH PERIODS, I, I THINK OUR OVERALL, THE GROUP HAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'VE USED LESS CONSULTANTS, AND, AND I DO KNOW DURING THAT TIME, IT'S NICE WHEN THE, THE NICE THING ABOUT IT IS YOU'VE GOT CONSISTENCY.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'VE JUST GOT, WE'VE ONLY GOT SO MUCH AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND TIME TO SPEND WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS.
BUT THE, THE OTHER FACT IS IF WE, WE OVERLOAD A GROUP, THEN, THEN I HAVE NOTICED THAT IT'S, IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO MEET SCHEDULES AND, UM, AND, AND PROJECTS PUSH OUT.
SO I, I GUESS THE THING THAT, AND I'M NOT GONNA BE LATE THIS, UH, BERATE THIS THING ANY FURTHER, UH, UH, OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT I'M FEARFUL THAT SOME KIND, SOME CONSULTANTS, UH, AND ENGINEERING FIRMS CROSS OVER INTO THE SAME PROJECT THAT, OR THEY MAY BE, UH, YOU KNOW, RUNNING PARALLEL AND THEN CROSS LINES, AND THEN THERE'S CONFLICT.
UM, HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT? I, I, I DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I, I WILL ASK, UH, INTERNALLY EXACTLY WHAT OKAY.
BUT AGAIN, IT CAUSES ME, UH, STATE OF PAUSE, UH, BECAUSE WE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE PLATE AND JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING, UH, ENTIRELY, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DO, BECAUSE I DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL FOR THAT.
I WENT TO SCHOOL FOR OTHER STUFF, YOU KNOW, SO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR 12? DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS MAYOR? GO AHEAD.
MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER IEG DASH U DASH 2025 DASH ZERO ONE TO INFRASTRUCTURE ENGINEERING GROUP, LLC, INDIAN HARBOR BEACH, FLORIDA FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES.
FOR THE INFLOW AND INFILTRATION STUDY FOR THE GRANT STREET WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY COLLECTION SYSTEM, PROJECT NUMBER 3 7 0 2 6 FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500,000.
AND SECOND, ALL THOSE HAVE EVER SAY AYE.
ITEM 13 GONNA BE MOVED AFTER 20.
[14. CONSENT AGENDA:]
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH IS A CONSENT AGENDA.UH, G WAS PULLED, UH, BY MS. HANLEY, AND SO THIS WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS A THROUGH K MINUS G, MAYOR.
I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA A THROUGH K MINUS G, SECOND, SECOND MOTION, AND A SECOND BY MR. NEWMAN.
[15. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA]
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS GONNA BE FOR ITEM G, UH, REPORTING ON THIS.UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNSEL, UH, JAMES IN CITY ENGINEER.
UH, THIS IS FOR ITEM, UH, 14 G, WHICH IS THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SELECTION FOR DOWNTOWN CORE STREET ESCAPE.
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PROJECT NUMBER 1, 7 1, 2, 3.UH, THE PROCESS TO SELECT A CONSULTANT FOR PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE DOWNTOWN COURSE TREAT SCAPE BEGAN ON MAY 4TH, 2026 WITH THE PUBLIC ADVERTISEMENT REQUESTING QUALIFICATIONS FROM INTERESTED, UH, PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING FIRMS. UH, WE HAD TO GO OUT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR THIS DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION VALUE OF THE PROJECT.
SO STATE STATUTES REQUIRE THAT ANYTHING OVER, UH, SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BE ADVERTISED.
UH, SO OUR CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE WAS IN EXCESS OF THAT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS LIMIT.
UM, THEREFORE WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR A PUBLIC SELECTION PROCESS FOR A DESIGN ENGINEERING FIRM.
UM, MARCH 10TH, UH, COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO PROCEED WITH CONSULTANT SELECTION.
WE MET THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, MET AND SHORTLISTED BASED OFF OF PRESENTATIONS.
WE THEN HELD A, UM, OFF THE WRITTEN PRESENTATIONS TO THE CITY.
THEN THE, UM, COMMITTEE, UM, REVIEWED THREE FIRMS IN PERSON, UH, PRESENTATIONS.
UM, AND WE PROCEEDED TO PROVIDE A ORDINAL RANKING OF THOSE THREE FIRMS. UH, THERE WAS A TIE FOR FIRST PLACE.
UH, SO WE WENT FROM THE ORDINAL RANKING TO A SUMMATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL SCORING.
UH, BASED ON THAT SCORING, UH, KIMLEY HORN WAS IDENTIFIED AS THE, UH, NUMBER ONE CONSULTANT, UH, IN THE TIEBREAKER.
UM, THE, UH, BASED ON THAT, THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING THAT A, UM, WE RECEIVE AUTHORIZATION FOR STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH KIMBERLY HOR AND ASSOCIATES TO PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES, UH, FOR THE DOWNTOWN CORE STREET SCAPE PROJECT.
THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO PULL THIS IS THAT I'M NOT RIGHT NOW, THE, WITH THE ECONOMY RIGHT HERE, IF WE DO THE STREET SCAPE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GONNA TEAR UP THE ROADS AND TEAR UP THE FRONT OF THESE BUSINESSES.
BUSINESSES ARE RIGHT NOW HAVING A HARD TIME.
SO IF WE PULL THAT, IF WE DO THIS, IT'S MADE, IT'S NOT A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, ONE, WE'RE GONNA BE DONE.
THIS IS GONNA BE A COUPLE YEARS PROJECT.
SO AT THIS TIME, NOW, DO WE HAVE THE MONEY AT THIS TIME? THE OTHER PROBLEM IS, IS GOING FORWARD, WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S LOOMING IN NOVEMBER.
SO SHOULD WE HOLD, I'M ASKING IF WE HOLD OFF UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER.
'CAUSE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THIS PROJECT, AND WE WASTED THE MONEY FOR THE CONSULTING.
I'M NOT, I'M JUST, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOMES PARK.
I'M JUST TALKING RIGHT THERE ON NEW HAVEN AVENUE.
THE, THE HOMES PARK, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF SEPARATE, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND AS A BUSINESS OWNERS, WE ALREADY, I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALL HAD DEALING WITH US ONE AND THE CONSTRUCTION THERE, THAT SOME OF THEM ARE JUST ABOUT HOLDING ON WITH DEAR LIFE.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS ON ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE WERE SAYING, WE WANT ALL THESE BUSINESS TO COME IN THERE AND WE'RE GONNA LOSE, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THEM DOWNTOWN DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF LOSING 32 SPACES OUT FRONT.
AND I KNOW IT WAS SOMEBODY LIKE ME THAT HAS HAD SCREWED UP MY KNEE THIS WEEK, BUT, UM, TO DO THE WALKING TO PARK IN THE PARKING GARAGE AND TO WALK OVER, IT'S, IT'S, I WON'T BE USING DOWNTOWN.
BUT MY BIG THING IS, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THIS PROJECT FORWARD? YOU KNOW, WITH THE LOOMING THE NOVEMBER LOOM, I'M ASKING THAT WE POSTPONE THE, THIS VOTE UNTIL AFTER NOVEMBER WHEN WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS FOR THE MONEY REASONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THIS? WHAT'S THE MATTER, MR. CONNOLLY? YOU GOT THAT SCOWL PHRASE ON YOU? SO THAT'S HIS NORMAL FACE
YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO KIND OF THINK THIS THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M, WELL, THE FIRST, I GUESS THE FIRST, THE FIRST AND FOREMOST QUESTION IS IF IT'S ABOUT SUPPORTING BUSINESSES, THE BUSINESSES ARE BEGGING US TO DO SOMETHING.
WE DID HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE CRA BOARD COME IN TODAY AND LITERALLY DO THAT.
AND THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT I HEAR ALL THE TIME.
THE CITY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING.
THE, THE, UH, DESTINATION BREVARD VIDEO THAT HE REFERRED TO WAS THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING LOOKS THE SAME.
THE CITY'S NOT DOING ANYTHING.
WHAT CAN THE CITY DO? AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT ALL THE IDEAS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO OR NOT DO, BUT I DON'T THINK INACTION IS A SOLUTION.
AND I JUST, I CAN'T GET BEHIND THIS.
WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THE MONEY.
WELL, THAT WAS MY SECOND PART IS ON THE SIDE PART.
SO THE, WE, THIS IS ALL PART OF THE CRA COMMERCIAL PROPERTY
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IS NOT GONNA BE ELIMINATED FROM ANY SORT OF VOTE THAT HAPPENS.UH, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAX BEING SPECIFIC WILL NOT BE ELIMINATED IF THAT VOTE HAPPENS IN NOVEMBER.
SO THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CORE CRA DISTRICT THAT'S IN A PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL AREA, WHICH WOULD STILL BE TAXED.
I DON'T SEE, UNLESS THE STAFF WANTS TO TELL ME OTHERWISE, 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ACCURATE ON THIS.
I DON'T SEE US LOSING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CRA FUNDING ON THAT, UH, WHERE WE COULDN'T DO THIS PROJECT OR ANY PROJECT FOR THAT MATTER.
'CAUSE THE CCRA IS ON A CLOCK.
SO I DO KNOW THAT FINANCE AND BUDGET HAVE LOOKED AT, I KNOW AS PART OF ROSS'S PRESENTATION, I THINK IN, WAS THAT IN JUNE OR WAS THAT PRIOR TO THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SALES TAX, OR SORRY, THE PROPERTY TAX AMENDMENT.
UM, THERE WILL BE A DECREASE IN CRA FUNDS BECAUSE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL IN THAT, THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THAT AREA.
THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY BUSINESS.
UM, AND AT THAT TIME HE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO EVALUATE COME NOVEMBER.
I BELIEVE THIS IS BEING DESIGNED TO BE PHASED.
IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, WHICH WAY YOU WANT US TO GO WITH IT.
JUST TO ADD TO THAT, UH, MS. LAMB, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION FUNDS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE DESIGN, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN, UM, UH, SELECTED, UH, FOR THOSE AND AWARDED FOR IT.
UH, SO A PORTION OF THE DESIGN IS COVERED BY LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH APPRO, APPROXIMATELY PERCENTAGE WISE? UM, APPROXIMATELY, APPROXIMATELY $600,000, UH, BASED ON THE, UH, ESTIMATED DESIGN COSTS.
WHAT IS THE DESIGN COST GONNA SUSPECT IT TO BE? UH, WE'RE ESTIMATING DESIGN COSTS TO COME IN AROUND, UH, 1 MILLION TO ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE AT 40 TO 50%.
YEAH, NO, MAYOR, THAT, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY POINT.
SO I THINK THIS IS A, DEFINITELY A WORTHWHILE CONVERSATION, BUT THE, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FUNDING, UH, I THINK IS THE MOST CRITICAL PART.
BUT I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M HEARING IS WHEN ARE WE EVER GOING TO DO THINGS.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CHANGES, BUT, BUT UNDER FISCAL CONSTRAINTS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I MAKE THOSE TOUGH CHOICES, BUT IT SOUNDS AS IF, UH, WE FUNDING HAS BEEN ALLOCATED.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT STOPS THERE, DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS MOVE IN THE FUTURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT, UH, DOING SOME INACTIVITY IS, IS, IS DEFINITELY NOT, IS, IS, IT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD THING TO DO.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND, AND, AND WHAT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL JUST ECHO ON THAT, THAT, UM, ONE OF THE, UM, THINGS THAT WILL HELP THE DOWNTOWN, THAT KIND OF DOWNTOWN IS THE WALKABILITY, THE EATING OUTSIDE THAT THE MAKE INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE NOW NARROW SIDEWALKS.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO ANY OF THE DOWNTOWNS THAT HAVE THAT THEY, THEY DO MUCH BETTER AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE HAVE.
BUT TO MR. HANEY'S POINT, THIS IS DESIGN AND NOT REALLY EXECUTION IMPLEMENTATION.
SO WE'RE PAYING FOR THE LOOK AND THE AESTHETICS AS OPPOSED TO ACTUALLY DOING IT AT THIS POINT.
AND HOW LONG WILL THAT DESIGN LAST? I MEAN, IF, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION.
IF HELL BROKE LOOSE, HOW LONG WOULD THAT DESIGN SIT ON THE SHELF? UH, THE DESIGN WOULD, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY BE GOOD ON THE SHELF FOR TWO TO THREE YEARS.
UH, ANYTIME YOU PUT A DESIGN PROJECT ON THE SHELF, UH, FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME, THERE'S ALWAYS A REVIEW PROCESS ONCE YOU REACTIVATE IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CURRENT DESIGN STANDARDS ARE MET AND THAT ANY TYPE OF CHANGES IN THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE APPROPRIATELY ACCOMMODATED FOR.
AND THOSE DESIGN ISSUES, I'M SORRY, MAY, MAY I, NO, GO AHEAD.
AND, AND SO THOSE DESIGN ISSUES, UH, WOULD BE MINIMAL, UH, MOST LIKELY MOVING FORWARD AFTER THE DESIGNS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
IF IT HAD TO SIT FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS, IT, IT WOULD JUST BE A, YOU KNOW, GIVE A BLESSING OVER THE HALL KIND OF THING, RIGHT? UH, CORRECT.
MS. LIAM, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE FOR JAMES TO SPEAK ON, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS CINDY OR IF IT IT WAS JAMES OR IT POSSIBLY IT WAS BOTH OF YOU AT DIFFERENT TIMES SPOKE ABOUT DURING THE SELECTION PROCESS.
THERE WAS CONVERSATION, AND I JUST LEARNED THIS WITHIN THE LAST DAY.
THERE WAS, UM, CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW YOU CONSTRUCT IT WITH MINIMAL BENEFIT TO THE, UM, THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND DO YOU WANNA ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE MORE? UH, YES MA'AM.
ACTUALLY, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN CRITERIA THAT THE, UH, SELECTION COMMITTEE USED TO GRADE THE PRESENTATIONS, UM, WAS THE MAINTENANCE OF ACCESS TO THE BUSINESSES DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
UM, EACH OF THE THREE FIRMS, UH, THAT WERE SHORTLISTED AND GAVE PRESENTATIONS TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, DEMONSTRATED A VERY THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE ON HOW THEY WERE GOING TO, UM, ENSURE THAT THAT BUSINESS ACCESS WAS MAINTAINED DURING THE ENTIRE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE FIRM THAT WAS SELECTED HERE, KIMLEY HORN, ACTUALLY HAD A VERY UNIQUE APPROACH TO MOT, UH, THAT THEY HAD INDICATED, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE MAINTAINED THE SIDEWALK
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ACCESS, UH, FOR A MUCH LARGER PORTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.WHEN IT GETS TO THAT POINT, UM, THE, UM, LIKE IT, AS I NOTED, IT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE, UH, MOST IMPORTANT CRITERIA THAT, UH, WE, WE BASED OR THE SELECTION COMMITTEE BASED, UM, OUR DECISION OFF OF AS TO WHO TO RECOMMEND FOR AWARD, UH, WAS THAT ENSURING THAT THE BUSINESSES WERE MINIMALLY IMPACTED DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MAIN DESIGN REVIEWS THAT OCCURS DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
WE DO REVIEWS AT 30, 60, 90, AND A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, AS PART OF THAT DESIGN PROCESS, WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, TO INVOLVE THE CRA, THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER UH, APPROACHES ARE, UM, DESIGNED WILL WORK THE BEST POSSIBLE, BEST WAY POSSIBLE WITH EACH OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS' NEEDS, THE CRA'S NEEDS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
UH, THIS WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE A DESIGN THAT IS DONE, UM, IN THE DARK WITHOUT INVOLVEMENT FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS.
UH, IF THAT WAS TO BE DONE, IT WOULDN'T WORK.
I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU.
IF THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DID THIS ON OUR OWN AND TRIED TO FORCE FEED A DESIGN DOWN THE BUSINESS OWNER'S THROAT, IT WOULD NOT END WELL.
WE ARE FULLY AWARE OF THAT, AND THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT COMPONENT OF THE DESIGN IS A WELL ESTABLISHED IN THE DESIGN SCOPE.
SO THERE'S A VERY HIGH EXPECTATION THAT WE INVOLVE ALL THE PARTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE AS MANY OF THE REQUESTS AND NEEDS OF THE, UH, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC, UM, AS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, AND ULTIMATELY AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION IF WE ARE ABLE TO SECURE FUNDING IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT.
UH, SO SOMETHING THAT I ALSO THINK THAT'S NOT BEING DISCUSSED HERE, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S VERY, UM, VERY MUCH A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION WHEN, WHEN WE'RE THINKING DESIGN, I, YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT THE, THE AESTHETICS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
I WANNA JUST READ A COUPLE OF THINGS ON HERE THAT I'VE TALKED WITH STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY WITH ABOUT, WHICH IS YOU'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT STORMWATER COLLECTION, UH, UTILITY RELOCATION, FIRE HYDRANTS, WATER SERVICES AND SEWER SERVICES, IRRIGATION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS AS WELL ISN'T JUST SIMPLY JUST THE LOOK AND FEEL ON HOW PRETTY IT IS.
PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT STAFF IS DOING EXPERTLY IS LOOKING AT IF THE STREET IS TORE UP, WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE REALLY WORKING ON OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS UNDER THERE.
AS WE ARE BEAUTIFYING THE TOP LAYER.
SO THIS DESIGN ISN'T JUST ABOUT THAT.
THIS DESIGN IS ALSO MAKING SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER THERE IS GONNA BE PROPERLY PLACED, GOOD FOR THE FUTURE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO THIS IS EXTRAORDINARILY CRITICAL IN MY BOOK, NOT ONLY JUST FROM A LOOK FEEL BUSINESS OWNER'S THING, BUT THIS DESIGN IS ALSO GOING TO HELP WITH THAT.
SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN YOU GUYS ARE MAKING YOUR DECISION, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE.
AND AND THAT IS YOUR DISTRICT? YEP.
SO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T WANNA STIFLE ANYONE'S DISCUSSION.
UH, MAYOR, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE AUTHORIZATION FOR STAFF TO NEGOTIATE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
TO PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE DOWNTOWN CORE STREETSCAPE PROJECT, PROJECT NUMBER 1 7 1 2 3.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND, ALL THOSE AT BEVERLY FA AYE.
[16. Lien Rescission No. CE#2023-0112: (Public Hearing) Recommendation from the Code Enforcement Board that the lien balance amount of $1,250 not be reduced for the cited respondents and property located at 2442 Empire Avenue. (Cited Respondent(s)/Current Owner(s): James & Sheila Teele) (Applicant: James Teele)]
OKAY.WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16.
REPORT ON THIS WOULD BE MR. HAROLD EVENING COUNCIL MAYOR.
UM, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN RESCISSION REQUEST FOR CE NUMBER 2 2 3 0 1 1 2 2.
COULD YOU, SIR, CAN YOU WAIT RIGHT UP THERE? NO, WE'RE NOT, WE HAVEN'T CALLED ANYBODY UP YET.
MR. AND, UH, 24 42 EMPIRE AVENUE STEMS FROM A CODE CASE THAT STARTED IN LATE 2023 WITH AN APPROXIMATE COMPLIANCE PERIOD OF ALMOST TWO YEARS.
IT INVOLVES SIGNIFICANT NUISANCE OPEN STORAGE OF VARIOUS ITEMS LOCATED IN THE BACKYARD AREA, INCLUDING INOPERABLE VEHICLES AND ITEMS RELATED TO THE RESPONDENT'S BUSINESS.
AND IN VIOLATION OF RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT USES.
UH, THIS, THESE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS RELATE DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE'S COMMITMENT TO ENSURING NOT ONLY A SAFE PLACE BUT IN AN ECONOMICALLY VIABLE PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.
DESPITE THE JULY, 2024 CODE BOARD FINDINGS, SEVEN BOARD DELAYS AND EXTENSIONS PROGRESS TOWARDS COMPLIANCE DID NOT BECOME SIGNIFICANT UNTIL A YEAR LATER WHEN FINES WERE ORDERED IN JULY, 2025.
PROGRESS THEN BECAME MORE SIGNIFICANT AND
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AT A VERY, AT THE VERY NEXT HEARING IN AUGUST, 2025, THE BOARD ORDERED A STAY OF THE FINE AT $1,250.AND THAT, UM, AND THE PROPERTY WAS THEN FOUND TO COMPLY 50 DAYS LATER AFTER THAT STAY IN OCTOBER, 2025.
ALTHOUGH THE CITY RECOMMENDED THE RESPONDENT REVISES THEIR APPLICATION TO PROVIDE SUPPORT BASED ON COUNCIL CRITERIA, THEY CA THE APPLICANT ELECTED NOT TO RESUBMIT.
AND AS NOTED AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE ONE OF THE STAFF REPORT, THE APPLICATION FOR RESCISSION INCLUDED ONLY ONE STATEMENT THAT DID NOT PROVIDE SUPPORTING COMMENTS OR DOCUMENTATION BASED ON CITY COUNCIL CRITERIA.
THE CODE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION WAS BASED ON THE APPLICANT NOT PROVIDING INFORMATION JUSTIFYING YOUR RESCISSION BASED ON COUNCIL CRITERIA.
UH, A COURTESY STAY OF THE FINE WAS ORDERED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD 50 DAYS PRIOR TO ACTUAL COMPLIANCE.
AND THE FINE AMOUNT OF $1,250 IS BELOW THE CURRENT JUDICIOUS RECOMMENDED CITY CA COST AMOUNT OF $1,600 LISTED ON PAGE THREE OF THE STAFF REPORT OF THE POSSIBLE MOTIONS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
NOT SURE WHERE THE, UM, AND THE CITY REQUESTS THAT THE COUNCIL ACCEPT THE CODE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION DENYING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMETHING COME UP THAT DIDN'T COME UP? OKAY, MR. CONLEY, IS THAT GONNA AFFECT US AT ALL? NO, IT'S ON PAGE TWO 17 OF YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE.
SORRY TO JUMP IN THERE, ADAM, BUT IT'S ON PAGE TWO 17 OF YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE THAT HAS THE AVAILABLE MOTIONS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE RESCISSION REQUEST, BUT THERE ARE TWO OTHER MOTIONS SHOULD COUNCIL OPT TO GO THAT DIRECTION? OKAY.
AND THE CODE, THE CODE BOARD'S RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION IS ALSO IN THE, UH, COUNCIL PACKET.
UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL A PUBLIC HEARING AND SO GIVE MR. TEAL AN OPPORTUNITY TO OF COURSE, SPEAK HIS CASE.
I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY WITH, YOU KNOW, IT GOING DARK THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, UM, PICTORIAL INFORMATION, I THINK IT'S ALL IN THE, IT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKET, SO YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'M GONNA ACTUALLY CALL MR. TEAL.
HOW YOU DOING, SIR? GOOD EVENING.
CITY MANAGER, CITY MAYOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.
UH, AS YOU SAW IN THE PHOTOS, UM, ALL THESE ITEMS WERE NOT VISIBLE FROM, UH, CITY RIGHT AWAY.
THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WAS A 36 YEAR ACCUMULATION OF, UH, ITEMS IN MY BACKYARD, UH, SHIELDED FROM PUBLIC VIEW BY A SIX FOOT WOODEN FENCE.
THIS ALL STARTED WHENEVER I, UH, WANTED TO WIDEN THE GATE TO MY BACKYARD.
AND I PROCEEDED TO, UH, APPLY FOR A CITY PERMIT FOR A FENCE, UH, RENOVATION AND CITY STAFF, UH, AND ZONING OR PLANNING USING AN AERIAL PHOTO TO LOOK AT MY BACKYARD.
'CAUSE AGAIN, IT WAS NOT VISIBLE FROM, UH, CITY RIGHT AWAY.
UH, DURING THE COURSE OF, UM, OF THE EVENTS OF TRYING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, UH, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW WHO LIVED WITH US PASSED AWAY.
MY WIFE WAS VERY DISTRAUGHT FROM IT, AND SHE ATTEMPTED SUICIDE.
I ALSO EXPERIENCED THREE STROKES DURING THIS PROCESS AND WAS RESTRICTED ON WHAT I WAS ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF DURING THIS PERIOD.
UM, WHAT I DID END UP DOING WAS I PURCHASED A, UH, HALF ACRE LOT IN THE COUNTY, MOVED MY OPERATIONS, UH, FOR MY BUSINESS THERE AT THE RESIDENCE.
I, WE DID CLEAN UP THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
UH, WE PAINTED THE, UH, ALL THE STRUCTURES AS REQUESTED.
I ALSO PURCHASED A CARPORT FOR THE BACKYARD TO PUT ONE OF MY VEHICLES UNDER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
WE WORKED HARD TO BECOME IN COMPLIANCE, BUT IT JUST TOOK A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THAN WHAT WE WERE ALLOWED.
UM, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE, UM, AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR A RESCISSION ON THE, ON THE FINES.
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OKAY.WELL, THANK, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
HEY, JAMES, HOW YOU DOING TONIGHT? OBVIOUSLY NOT SO GOOD.
UM, THE, UM, THE PHOTOS THAT WE, UH, ARE PRESENTED BEFORE US ARE FROM 2023.
UM, THAT'S THE TIMESTAMP I HAVE ON, ON TWO OF THEM.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE OTHER ONES WERE, UH, TAKEN.
SO ARE, IS IT YOUR, UH, IS IT YOUR OPINION, IS IT, IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY RIGHT NOW THAT ALL OF THIS STUFF HAS BEEN CLEANED UP COMPLETELY AND MOVED TO ANOTHER PARCEL? I, I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU.
WOULD IT, WOULD YOU SAY THAT ALL OF THESE, UH, ITEMS HAVE BEEN CLEANED UP? OH, YEAH.
WE'RE, WE'RE, BECAUSE THE PHOTOS SHOWED 2023.
WE'VE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE FOR QUITE A WHILE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, QUITE A WHILE.
THAT'S MARK DOES THE STAFF REPORT? YEAH.
OCTOBER 20, OCTOBER, 2025 IS COMPLIANCE, STATE COMPLIANCE 2025.
AND SO WHEN DID YOU BRING THIS TO US? OR WHEN DID HE BRING THIS TO US? JUST RECENTLY.
SO FOR THE RESCISSION, UH, RECENTLY, IT WAS THE LAST TWO GOBOARD MEETINGS AGO.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO FIND THE GENTLEMAN, ALTHOUGH IT TOOK HIM LONGER TO DO IT, BUT NOW IT'S NOT DONE.
SO A RESCISSION AND, AND SINCE 2025.
AND SO HERE WE ARE IN MIDDLE OF 2026.
SO TO HELP OUT HERE, UH, THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS, YOU COME INTO COMPLIANCE MM-HMM
AND THEN YOU PUT IN AN APPLICATION FOR, UH, REDUCTION.
I MEAN, LET, LET'S, LET'S JUST KEEP IT AT THAT RATHER THAN TO GO DOWN THE, SO SOMETIMES IT TAKES, THE CODE BOARDS ARE ONLY EVERY SIX WEEKS.
SO IF HE TURNED IN HIS APPLICATION, SAY IN JANUARY, IT MIGHT BE MARCH OR APRIL BEFORE WE GET IT ON THE CODE BOARD HEARING.
THEN WE GOTTA PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA.
I'M, I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO SOME OF MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IF THEY WANNA TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, A QUESTION I HAVE, UH, AND I, AND I, I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH MEDICALLY.
NO, I I, I, I'M, I'M AWARE OF WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH MEDICALLY.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE FEELING BETTER NOW.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, SORRY ABOUT YOUR, YOUR WIFE, UM, BUT THE QUESTION, HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK, UH, YOU HAVE SPENT TO CLEAN ALL THIS UP? SAY THAT AGAIN? HOW MUCH HAVE YOU THINK, HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK YOU'VE SPENT TO CLEAN ALL THIS UP? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALSO BOUGHT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
YEAH, SO I SPENT $300,000 FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, ANOTHER $2,500 FOR THE CARPORT, AND ALL THE REST OF IT WAS FAMILY LABOR.
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY BIGGEST EXPENSE.
NOW THERE WAS, I HAD SEVERAL VEHICLES THAT WE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AND DO SOME WORK ON, PUT 'EM BACK ON THE ROAD, BUT WE ENDED UP JUST TAKING AND, UH, AND SCRAPPING 'EM, YOU KNOW, TO GET 'EM OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE WAY.
CAN I ASK MS. HAMLEY, OKAY, UH, THE $1,200, CAN WE GO OVER WHAT THAT ENTAILS? WHAT, WHY WE'RE CHARGING $1,200 AND WHY NOT $1,600 AS YOU HAD BEEN INDICATED? OH, I SEE.
I, SO THE BOARD FOUND, UH, THEM IN VIOLATION IN JULY OF 2024.
THE FINE DID NOT START UNTIL JULY OF 2025.
SO TYPICALLY OUR FINES START FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WITH VIOLATIONS OF THIS NATURE AT $25 A DAY.
AND THAT FINE ACCRUED UNTIL AUGUST OF 2025 WHEN THE BOARD BASED ON, UH, MR. TEAL'S PROGRESS AT THAT TIME BEGAN TO BE MORE PROGRESSIVE.
AND SO THEY STAYED THE FINE, DESPITE IT WAS NOT COMPLETELY COMPLIED.
AND THEN IN OCTOBER, 2025 IS WHEN COMPLETE COMPLIANCE, UH, HAPPENED.
SO THAT ACCRUED UP TO $1,200 BETWEEN JULY, 2025 AND AUGUST, 2025 FOR THAT AMOUNT.
NOW THE $1,600 IS JUST A BASELINE OF CITY COSTS THAT WE USUALLY DON'T RECOMMEND COUNCIL GO BELOW THAT BECAUSE FOR EVERY CASE WE HAVE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT, UH, THAT THE CITY INCURS FOR COST IS $1,600.
AND THAT'S A JUDICIOUS AMOUNT.
IT'S USUALLY WAY MORE THAN THAT.
AND SO THE SIX WE ARE NOT GOING TO, SO WE, IF THE FINE WAS HIGHER, SAY A THOU, UH, 2000, WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND GOING BA BELOW THAT 1600.
IN THIS CASE, THE FINE IS BELOW THAT 1600.
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SO WE, THERE'S NO REDUCTION FOR THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THEY'RE WELL BELOW THE $1,600 CITY COST.SO, MAYOR, OH, I'M SORRY MS. STANLEY MAYOR.
SO I HAVE SOMETHING OH, NO, GO AHEAD, MR. RUSO.
UM, SO THIS COUNCIL AND COUNCILS BEFORE THAT I'VE SERVED ON HAVE, UH, ALWAYS, UH, MAINTAINED THE FACTOR THAT, UH, I'VE SEEN LIENS COME IN FRONT OF US ANYWHERE FROM 20,000 TO 30,000 AND NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE, THOSE NUMBERS.
UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR PRACTICE TO AT LEAST CAPTURE THE COST OF WHAT IT COSTS THE CITY.
SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, MARK, IS THAT THE COST TO THE CITY WAS $1,600, NOT $1,250.
WELL, I WILL SAY THE $1,600 COST IS JUDICIOUS THAT IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKELY WAY MORE THAN THAT.
SO THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRESENTING US $1,250, THAT IS THE FINE AMOUNT.
THAT'S THE FINE AMOUNT, CORRECT.
AND THEN THAT WOULD CLEAN EVERYTHING UP AND THAT WOULD BE MR. TEAL CAN GO ON HIS WAY.
AND THAT WOULD SATISFY THE CITY WITH THEIR COSTS.
BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, UH, SUBSIDIZING, UH, DEVELOPERS.
ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION LAST MEETING.
UH, AND WHO DO WE SUBSIDIZE AND WHO DON'T WE SUBSIDIZE? SO, UM, UM, I'M, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU, BUT I'M GONNA STICK WITH THE 1250 JUST TO RECAPTURE THE COSTS.
I'M, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED OF WHERE THE CITY IS SPENDING THAT MONEY TO DO THIS.
SO WE DID A CALCULATION OF HOW MANY TIMES ON YOUR NORMAL CODE CASE, ONE THAT DOESN'T EVEN GO TO HEARING HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE TO, TO GO OUT THERE TO MAKE AN INSPECTION, MAILING COST, UH, MILEAGE, UH, OTHER FACTORS THAT COST THAT COME IN THERE FOR THE SIMPLEST CASE, FOR THE SIMPLEST CASE, NOT EXTREME CASES, NOT CASES THAT GO FOR YEARS.
AND WE AVERAGE IT OUT TO ABOUT $1,600.
NOW, MOST CASES ARE WAY ABOVE THAT AMOUNT, BUT TO BE JUDICIOUS, WE CALCULATED TO BE, FOR ANY CASE, THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT, BECAUSE TO GO AND TRY TO CALCULATE CITY COSTS FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL CASE WOULD BE SO COMPLEX.
AND IF I CAN ADD, MS. LIAM, IF I CAN ADD TO THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMEFRAME THAT'S UP ON THE SCREENS, RIGHT? RIGHT HERE, OBVIOUSLY WE STARTED INSPECTIONS.
WE RECEIVED THE COMPLAINT IN NOVEMBER OF 23.
OUR, WE NOTIFIED, PUT A NOTICE IN DECEMBER OF THAT YEAR.
CODE BOARD FINDINGS OF VIOLATION WAS JULY OF 24.
AND SO WE ISSUED, UM, POSTPONEMENTS AND EXTENSIONS UP TO THAT POINT.
EACH TIME WE DID THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE.
SO WHEN YOU CAN JUST TELL FROM THIS SCREEN ALONE, MULTIPLE SITE VISITS, HAS IT BEEN CLEANED UP? AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHEN YOU START ADDING UP WHY DID IT COST SO MUCH MONEY? IT'S, IT, IT'S THAT STAFF TIME TO GO DO AND, AND SEE IF IT'S BEEN RESOLVED AND, AND TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WAY.
CAN YOU PULL UP PAGE TWO 14, KEVIN? PAGE TWO 14.
SO, UH, FOR WHEN WE'RE CALCULATING THE AVERAGE COST OF AN AVERAGE CASE, WE, AND I FORGET THE NUMBER.
WE WOULD SAY TYPICAL CASE FOUR VISITS, YOUR INITIAL INSPECTION, A COUPLE FOLLOW UPS, INSPECTIONS AND A, AND A CASE CLOSURE INSPECTION, RIGHT? MM-HMM
TYPICAL CASE, UH, BUT IN CASES LIKE THIS WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO TO HEARING IT'S WAY MORE THAN THAT WHEN YOU HAVE EXTENSIONS, IT'S WAY MORE THAN THAT.
BUT WE DON'T COUNT THOSE INTO THE OVERALL CITY COSTS.
WE GO WITH THE SIMPLE NUMBER OF, OF THAT ONE $1,600.
WE TRY TO REVISE THAT EVERY YEAR TO HELP WITH, UH, KEEPING UP WITH THE CURRENT ECONOMIC SITUATION.
UM, BUT, UH, IT, IT, THIS CASE ALONE DID NOT HAVE JUST FOUR INSPECTIONS.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY ACCOUNTING FINANCIALLY FOR THOSE FOUR INSPECTIONS, IT COULD HAVE BEEN 15 OR MORE.
SO WE'RE NOT CHARGING CITY COSTS FOR EVERY DRIVE.
UH, UH, EVERY INSPECTION, ONLY THE MINIMUM AMOUNT FOR THE TYPICAL CASE.
UH, MR. NEWMAN, UH, SO I HAVE MORE OF A, A PROCESS QUESTION AND, UH, IT'S TWOFOLD.
ONE, UM, HE HAD MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, HE THOUGHT THAT YOU, THIS ALL CAME FROM AN AERIAL VIEW, WHICH I AM LOOKING AT ON GOOGLE MAPS RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU'RE CONFIRMING THAT EVERYTHING'S IN COMPLIANCE NOW WE'RE GOOD.
BECAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M, UH, I DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WHAT, SO, SO, SO THE, THE COMMENT OF THE AERIAL
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VIEW, WE DO NOT USE AERIAL VIEWS TO SUPPORT A VIOLATION.WHEN WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT, NO MATTER WHO IT'S FROM, WE GO OUT AND MAKE OUR OWN OBSERVATIONS FROM A PLACE THAT WE'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO BE.
IN THIS CASE, THE HOA GAVE US PERMISSION TO USE THEIR RETENTION AREA, WHICH WAS BEHIND THE RESPONDENT'S PROPERTY, AND HE HAD A CHAIN LINK FENCE THERE.
SO IT WAS READILY AVAILABLE AND OBSERVABLE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
AND SO, AND SO YOU BEAT ME TO MY SECOND QUESTION ON THAT BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE, AGAIN, BY ON THE FACE OF IT, EVEN IF YOU SAW THAT THERE WAS ONE PORTION, YOU COULD ONLY I GUESS, LOOK AT AND CONSTITUTE WHATEVER THE VIEWABLE PORTION IS.
UH, SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO LOOK IN THE BACKYARD, THE WHOLE BACKYARD WAS OBSERVABLE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
UM, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, UH, MR. TEAL AND I, AND, AND LISTEN, THIS IS TOUGH FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A KIND OF DECISION, YOU KNOW, BUT HERE'S MY QUESTION.
THE FACT THAT YOU ARE ON THE COLD BOARD, YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE CODE BOARD, UM, AND, AND WITH THIS ISSUE, AND AGAIN, I I'M AWARE OF WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT WOULD YOUR RESPONSE BE TO SOMEONE OUT THERE? IN OTHER WORDS, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT DO WE TELL PEOPLE THAT COME FORWARD AND SAY, WELL, YOU ALLOWED A CODE BOARD MEMBER WHO HAD A LONG TIME CODE ISSUE AND YOU JUST, YOU, YOU LET 'EM GO FOR, FOR NOTHING.
HOW DO WE RESPOND TO THAT? THE WAY I WOULD RESPOND TO IT WOULD BE THE SAME WAY I'M DOING NOW.
I'D COME IN AND ASK FOR A RECENSION.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I COULD TELL 'EM.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME HARDSHIP.
WE HAD, LIKE I SAID, 36 YEARS OF ACCUMULATION.
AND EVERYTHING WAS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY WAS FRONT YARD, THE ROAD IN THE FRONT YARD.
IT WAS ONLY UNTIL AFTER A CITY STAFF PLANTER SAW IT FROM AN AERIAL PHOTO FROM THE COUNTY, I'M ASSUMING.
AND THEN THE CITY CODE INSPECTOR WENT AND GOT PERMISSION TO GO INTO THE RETENTION POND AREA BEHIND OUR RESIDENCE AND LOOK THROUGH THE CHAIN LINK FENCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT STARTED THE WHOLE DOMINO WAS THAT PARTICULAR.
AND YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THOSE PHOTOS SHOW THE PHOTO BEING TAKEN THROUGH A CHAIN LINK FENCE, BUT FROM THE FRONT YARD, THERE WAS NOTHING AND NOTHING FROM THE ROAD.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, IS ANYTIME SOMETHING COMES BEFORE THE CODE BOARD, AND YES, I'VE BEEN ON THE CODE BOARD FOR 20 YEARS, OVER 20 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN THE CHAIRMAN FIVE TIMES.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
ALL I CAN SAY IS IF SOMEBODY CAME BEFORE US LIKE THAT, AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT DO TO REQUEST A RETENTION, AND SOMETIMES THE CODE BOARD IN THE PAST HAS RESCINDED IT TO ZERO AND, AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE WAY IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF AND COME, COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THAT'S ALL WE ASKED FOR, ANY RESIDENCE OR ANY BUSINESS OWNER TO DO IS BE IN COMPLIANCE.
AND ONCE I CAME INTO COMPLIANCE, THEN I DID THE, THE PAPERWORK TO GET THE RECENSION RIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE ABOUT TONIGHT.
AND, UH, JUST LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHEN I STOOD OVER THERE DURING THE RECENSION REQUEST AND DURING ALL THE ISSUES OF WHEN IT CAME UP ON THE CO ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M IN THAT POSITION AND YES, THE CODE BOARD TOOK THE POSITION, UM, SEVERAL TIMES TO SAY, WELL, WE REALLY CAN'T DO THAT.
WE REALLY SHOULDN'T DO THAT, THAT TYPE OF A THING.
BECAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD AND THAT'S FINE.
ALL I'M SAYING IS ON THIS REQUEST IS IT TOOK A WHILE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, BUT WE DID COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM THE, FROM THE APPEARANCE OF THE, AT THE FRONT YARD.
IT'S STRICTLY FROM THE BACK LOOKING THROUGH A CHAIN LINK FENCE THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WAS GIVEN PERMISSION TO THE CITY STAFF TO VIEW.
UM, WE HAD TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE HOA AND THE HOA WAS GLAD THAT WE FINALLY CAME.
ONE OF THE REASONS IS UNFORTUNATELY THEY DID NOT MAKE COMPLAINTS IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF UNFORTUNATELY HIS POSITION ON THE BOARD.
WELL, LET'S NOT SURMISE THIS IS FROM THE O OKAY.
THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE.
WELL, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, MR. I REALLY THINK SO.
WELL, I MEAN, WHY DO YOU ASSUME THAT, I MEAN, AND I GET THAT STATE THAT FROM THE RECORD AND THE, AND THE, AND THE STAFF WHO WAS INVESTIGATING, THEY WERE ALL, UH, HAPPY THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING AND FINALLY GETTING CLEANED UP.
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AND, AND I EXPLAINED THIS TO THE COUNCIL OR TO THE CO BOARD, REGARDLESS OF HIS POSITION, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, RESPONDENTS OUT THERE WHO ACCUMULATE FINES.AND AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE COMING INTO COMPLIANCE, THEY STILL HAVE FINES AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW CITY COUNCIL CRITERIA TO GET 'EM REDUCED.
AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. AND MR. TEAL DID NOT PROVIDE ANY OF THOSE, UH, DOCUMENTATION FOR CRI TO MEET THAT CRITERIA.
EVEN IF HE DID, WE STILL WOULDN'T RECOMMEND GOING BELOW CITY COST VERSUS IS $1,600.
UH, MR. THIEL, OR YES, MARK, IS THERE, UH, PEOPLE WHO LIVE BEHIND MR. TEAL ACROSS THE RETENTION AREA ACROSS, AND HOW, HOW MANY YARDS FEET IS THE RETENTION AREA? UH, IT'S PRETTY WIDE.
GIMME A KNEE JERK A HUNDRED FEET.
MAYBE I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.
THE, THE RETENTION POND IS A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE.
THE RESIDENTS BEHIND OUR SUBDIVISION IS IN THE COUNTY AND THEY'RE ON ONE ACRE LOTS.
AND THE RESIDENTS ON THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS HAVE THEIR HOUSES TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE CLOSEST RESIDENCE, YOU CAN'T, AND IT'S ALL TREE.
SO YOU, FROM THE OTHER RESIDENCE IN THE COUNTY, YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THE BACKYARD.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING NOW? UH, SO SEEING THAT SOME, SOME PEOPLE COULD SEE IT FROM THEIR BACKYARDS.
DID WE KNOW IF IT AFFECTED ANY REAL ESTATE IN THE AREA OR SOMEBODY TRIED TO SELL A HOUSE? WE, WE DON'T DO THAT KIND OF INVESTIGATION.
OH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT CAME UP WITH THE HOA.
YEAH, YOU CANNOT, NOBODY CAN SEE IT FROM THE BACKYARD UNLESS THEY'RE ON, ON THE RE RETENTION POND.
AND THAT'S KIND OF RESTRICTED FOR EVEN HOMEOWNERS TO BE ON.
AND MY, UM, SECOND QUESTION IS, WAS THERE, LIKE, YOU WENT THROUGH SOME HARDSHIPS, SOME VALID HARDSHIPS.
UM, WERE YOU COMMUNICATING THIS WITH THE CITY AT, AT ALL? LIKE WAS THERE CONSTANT COMMUNICATION OR WAS THERE A LOT OF JUST, I, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU MA'AM.
WERE YOU COMMUNICATING WITH THE CITY DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS? OH, OF COURSE.
LETTING THEM KNOW LIKE THE STEPS YOU WERE TAKING THROUGH PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS, JUST MEDICAL THING HAPPEN.
AND SO IN THE RESCISSION APPLICATION, ANY CRITERIA THAT YOU MEET, YOU SHOULD PUT DOWN THERE THAT WASN'T IN PLACE.
NONE OF THIS MEDICAL STUFF CAME UP IN ANY OF THE HEARINGS.
MOST OF IT WAS, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF THIS, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A YEAR LATER BEFORE EVEN THE FINE STARTED THEN THERE WAS MANY EXTENSIONS.
THREE OF THOSE EXTENSIONS WERE LACK OF QUORUM BECAUSE YOU NEED FOUR PERSONS ON THE BOARD AND FOUR WERE THERE.
BUT FOR HIS CASE, HE HAD TO STEP DOWN.
SO THREE EXTENSIONS JUST FROM THAT, THE BOARD KEPT GIVING HIM EXTENSIONS AND THEN FINALLY STARTED A FINE.
THEN WE STARTED SEEING MORE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS 50 DAYS LATER AFTER THE FINE STARTED, OR NOT 50 DAYS, UH, A MONTH.
THE NEXT HEARING, UH, THE FINE WAS STAYED.
AND THEN 50 D DAYS LATER, AFTER THE FINE WAS STAYED, HE CAME INTO COMPLIANCE.
SO PRETTY QUICK FROM THE DAY, AND THIS, WE SEE THIS A LOT, THE FINE START AND ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE START MOVING.
PROBLEM IS IF YOU DON'T START THOSE FINES, IT COULD DRAG ON FOR A YEAR OR MORE.
ANY, ANY, ANY, ANYBODY ELSE? NO SIR.
UM, KEVIN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, POWERPOINT SLIDE? OKAY.
SO WE HAVE TO BASICALLY MAKE A DECISION HERE.
WELL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ONES RECOMMEND DENIAL, THE RESCISSION REQUEST.
TWO, RECOMMEND REDUCTION TO OTHER FINE AMOUNT, AND THREE REDUCTION OF FINE TO ZERO.
I'LL JUST NOTE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL POLICY TALKS ABOUT THE UNDERLYING FACTORS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR, FOR FURTHER REDUCTION OR, OR REDUCTION DOWN TO ZERO.
UM, AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE HEARD, UH, INFORMATION TO SATISFY THOSE CRITERIA.
UH, AND AGAIN, THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DENIAL ON THE BASIS THAT THE UNDERLYING FINE AMOUNT IS LESS THAN THAT ESTIMATED MINIMUM CITY COST AMOUNT.
SORRY, THAT WAS THE CODE BOARDS ALSO, RIGHT? THAT WAS ALSO THE CODE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION.
SO THE, SO THE CODE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION WAS THE, UH, WAS TO NUMBER TWO? UH, NO ONE, NUMBER ONE FOR NUMBER ONE, YEAH.
WHICH INCLUDES A REDUCTION IN CENTS.
IT WOULD KEEP THE FINE, IT WOULD KEEP THE FINE
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AND LIEN AMOUNT AT THE 1250 AMOUNT.AND THEN MAYOR, AND THEN, JUST TO STATE OPINIONS, I'LL AGREE WITH MR. LEWIS'S OPINION THAT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ALREADY DOING SOMETHING TO KIND OF HELP ALLEVIATE THOSE COSTS, BUT THAT IT STILL, UH, RE RECRUITS THE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY ON THIS MAYOR.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. NEUMAN, AND I'M SORRY MR. TEAL, BUT, BUT, BUT WE'RE FACED WITH A, A CONUNDRUM COMING UP INTO THE NEXT TWO MONTHS WITH OUR, OUR BUDGET SESSIONS AND, AND WHAT WE CAN, AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO AND WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW HAPPEN ANYMORE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE A BOARD MEMBER, BUT FORTUNATELY YOU ARE A BOARD MEMBER.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
BUT NO MORE THAN IF I COMMIT A TRAFFIC INFRACTION THAT I GET PULLED OVER AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I GET LET FREE, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
I'VE GOTTEN SPEEDING TICKETS IN THIS TOWN, UNFORTUNATELY.
I HATE TO SAY IT OUT LOUD, BUT YEAH, I, I WAS IN A BIT OF A HURRY.
UM, BUT, BUT THERE IS NO, BECAUSE I'M ON THE BORDER OR BECAUSE THERE'S SPECIAL, UM, SPECIAL TREATMENT OF SORTS.
SO I'M GONNA STAND WITH, UH, YOU MR. NEWMAN, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE 1250 IS MORE THAN FAIR, UM, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AT HAND.
UH, SO I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION IF YOU MADE IT.
WELL, AND I, AND I'LL MAKE A QUICK COMMENT THAT WE, WE TRUST OUR BOARDS.
AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD MOST TIME, AND I'M GONNA GO WITH WHAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD RECOMMENDED.
WHICH WOULD BE THAT, RIGHT? WE'RE SAYING NUMBER ONE.
WHAT THAT CODE AND FORTH, THE BOARD RECOMMENDED.
NOW WE MAKE A MOTION, I'LL, I'LL MAKE IT CALL THE MAYOR THE QUESTION MAYOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE REDUCTION OF LIEN NUMBER, CE NUMBER 2023 DASH 1 22, WITH THE FINE REMAINING AT THE CURRENT BALANCE AMOUNT OF $1,250 AGAINST THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND CITED RESPONDENTS UNTIL PAID.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[17. Ordinance No. 2026-27 (AV2026-0003): (First Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance to abandon and vacate a public alley right-of-way located at 1710 Stockton Street.]
OKAY.MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17, THAT THE ORDINANCE TO VACATE.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF AN UNIMPROVED 10 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY THAT ABUTS THE WEST LOT.
LINE OF 1710 STOCKTON STREET MAKING FINDINGS, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNSEL.
UM, THIS IS AV 2026 DASH THREE.
UM, THE APPLICANT, DWIGHT CLARK, HAS REQUESTED THE VACATION OF UNAPPROVED 10 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY THAT ABUTS THE WEST LINE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE, THE BACKYARD.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS MAKING THIS REQUEST TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND TO PREVENT TRESPASSING ALONG THE WEST LOT LINE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AS IT IS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, IT WOULD BE ENFORCED AS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION, UH, ACCORDING TO THE REVIEW CRITERIA IN SECTION 52 DASH 99 OF THE CITY CODE, AND IS RECOMMENDING THE VACATION ACTION FOR APPROVAL PURSUANT TO SECTION 52 DASH 100 B.
IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE VACATION ACTION WILL NOT COMPROMISE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, AND AESTHETICS AND THE ECONOMIC ORDER.
UH, WE HAVE CHECKED, THERE ARE NO UTILITIES THAT ARE IN THIS RIGHT OF WAY, SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO MAINTAIN AN EASEMENT.
UH, SO THIS IS A FULL, UH, VACATE AND RELEASE OF THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, APPROVAL OF THE ABANDONMENT AND VACATION OF THE ABOVE DESCRIBED, UH, PUBLIC ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ERNEST? OKAY.
THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM.
ANY DISCLOSURES ON THIS ITEM? NO.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND MR. HARRY CLARK, UM, WANTS TO SPEAK.
DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR ARE YOU JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, SIR.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR ARE YOU JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS? I'M JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. CLARK? OKAY.
THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL MAYOR.
UH, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 27.
AND I'LL SECOND THAT SO WE HAVE A MOTION.
AND SECOND, UH, ALL OF THEM FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE A THAT MOTION TO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[18. Ordinance No. 2026-28 (AV2026-0005): (First Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance to abandon and vacate a 12-foot-wide unimproved public alley right-of-way that runs through the applicant’s property located at 22 E. New Haven Avenue.]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18, ORDINANCE 20 26, 28.THANK YOU, MAYOR IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A 121 FOOT LONG PORTION OF THE 12 FOOT WIDE UNIMPROVED PUBLIC ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY THAT RUNS THROUGH 22 EAST NEW HAVEN HAVEN AVENUE, MAKING FINDINGS, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
REPORT ON THIS IS MR. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
UH, THE APPLICANT OF 30 EAST NEW HAVEN, LLC HAS REQUESTED THE VACATION, UH, OF APPROXIMATELY 120 FOOT LONG, UH, 12 FOOT WIDE UNIMPROVED, PUBLIC ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY THAT RUNS THROUGH THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
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THIS REQUEST AS PART OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.UH, STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT THIS ABANDONED AND VACATE HAS COME TO COUNCIL.
UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH, COUNSEL APPROVED IT WITH A CONDITION THAT A, UH, SUBSEQUENT UTILITY EASEMENT BE RECORDED, UH, WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME THAT DID NOT OCCUR, UM, THAT EASEMENT WAS TO PRESERVE FLORIDA CITY GAS'S, UH, UTILITY RIGHTS, UM, BASICALLY THAT WENT IN 80 DAY TIMEFRAME, UH, EXPIRED RENDERING ORDINANCE 2018 DASH 37 VOID.
UH, SINCE THE TIME, UH, FLORIDA CITY GAS HAS RELOCATED THEIR FACILITIES OUT OF THAT, UH, RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY UTILITY, UH, UTILITIES WITHIN THAT, UH, PARTICULAR RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THEREFORE NO CONDITIONS ARE REQUIRED OF THIS EASEMENT.
UM, AS STATED BEFORE, WE HAVE, UH, REVIEWED THIS FOR 52 DASH 99 OF CITY CODE.
UH, WE RECOMMEND THE VACATION FOR APPROVAL AND, UH, WITH PER SECTION 52 DASH 100 B, IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THE VACATION ORDER WILL NOT COMPROMISE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, AND AESTHETICS AND ECONOMIC ORDER.
UH, BY VACATING THIS RIGHT OF WAY, UH, WE ARE REQUESTING, UH, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 28.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TURNER? ALL RIGHT.
DOES QUASI SHALL ITEM ANY DISCLOSURES? UH, NOTE NO DISCLOSURES TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE NO SIGNUP SHEET.
MAYOR, UH, MS. BASSETT, GO AHEAD.
UH, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 SLASH 28 AND I WILL SECOND THAT.
[19. Ordinance No. 2026-29 (AV2025-0007): (First Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance vacating a portion of the 15-foot-wide public utility easement that encompasses the building on the parcel with conditions at 1000 N. Wickham Road.]
ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 26 29 FOR NUMBER, NUMBER 19.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF THE 15 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THAT ENCOMPASSES THE BUILDING AT 1000 NORTH WICKHAM ROAD.
MAKING FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BRAVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE.
AND MR. VENUS? ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU.
UH, THE APPLICANT, WALMART STORES EAST LP, HAS REQUESTED A VACATION OF A PORTION OF A 15 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THAT ENCOMPASSES THE WALMART BUILDING ON THE PARCEL.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS MAKING THIS REQUEST AS PART OF PROPOSED BUILDING RENOVATIONS.
UM, EFFECTIVELY THE UTILITY LINE RUNS THROUGH THEIR PARKING LOT.
UH, THEY NEEDED TO, UH, DO RENOVATIONS ON THE PROPERTY, UH, WHICH REQUIRED THEM TO GET THE, UH, EASEMENT VACATED.
UH, THEY RELOCATED THE UTILITY LINE AND, UM, THIS ABANDONED AND VACATE IS ACCOMPANIED BY A, AN ADDITIONAL, UH, CONDITIONAL REQUEST THAT THEY PROVIDE A NEW UTILITY EASEMENT TO, UH, THAT'S CENTERED ON THE RELOCATED LOCATION OF THAT, UH, PARTICULAR WATER MAIN.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE RECEIVED ONE OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS, UH, UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, UH, TO PRESERVE, UH, THE PARTICULAR EASEMENT.
UH, THE APPLICANT AGREED TO REDRAFT THE LOCATION OF THE NEW EASEMENT AND IS PREPARED TO SIGN AND GRANT THE NEW EASEMENT, UH, WHICH RESOLVED THE PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES OBJECTION.
UM, WE HAVE REVIEWED THIS FOR 52 DASH 99 CITY CODE, AND WE RECOMMEND THE VACATION FOR APPROVAL PURSUANT TO 52 100 B.
IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THE VACATION WILL NOT COMPROMISE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, AESTHETICS, AND ECONOMIC ORDER.
UM, WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER, UH, 2026 DASH 29, UH, AND THE NEW UTILITY EASEMENT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CITY.
THANK YOU MR. ES, ANY QUESTION FOR, FOR MR. INES? MAYOR? GOOD AHEAD, SIR.
JUST QUICK, IS, IS THE NEW EASEMENT, THE, THE GREEN SHADED PART OF THIS? UH, UH, IT'S THE DARKER GREEN SHADE.
SO THEY, THEY SHIFTED THE UTILITY LINE TO THE EAST.
AND RECORDED A NEW EASEMENT DIRECTLY CENTERED ON TOP OF THAT.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING ON.
I, I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT, I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE A TERRIBLY BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS, BUT IT DOES
WE'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER CONFLICTS.
AREN'T ANY OTHER UTILITIES WITH THINGS IN THERE OR, YOU KNOW, CREATING AN ISSUE IF, IF WE RELOCATE.
SO, I, I UNDERSTAND IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT JUST TO SHIFT AN EASEMENT OVER A LITTLE BIT.
AND, AND BELIEVE ME, WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION INTERNALLY ON IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE PROCESS AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.
OR YOU JUST WANTED TO DO A LITTLE MORE WORK? YOU KNOW, I LOVE MAKING WORK FOR EVERYONE.
YOU'RE ONLY HERE TILL EIGHT O'CLOCK, RIGHT? MIGHT AS WELL STAY UNTIL EIGHT 30.
SO ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MSRE? THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL I DISCLOSURES, I NOTE NO DISCLOSURES AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE NO SIGNUP SHEET.
BRING BACK TO COUNCIL, MAYOR, MAYOR, APPROVAL ORDINANCES 20 20 26 DASH 29.
AND SECOND, ALL THOSE MEMBERS SAY, AYE.
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I VOTE.[20. Resolution No. 4423: A resolution authorizing an Agreement of Purchase and Sale between the City of Melbourne and Otto S. Boozer, as Trustee of the Otto S. Boozer Restated Revocable Trust Agreement, for property located on Sarno Road and west of Wickham Road, Melbourne, FL for Fire Station No. 72, Project No. 10321 - $1,000,000 plus closing costs.]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER 20.ALL RIGHT, MS. LAMB, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOMETHING? ARE YOU PRESENTING THIS? UH, I'M SORRY.
WE DID NOT PUT JOAN'S NAME DOWN ON THIS.
I, SO OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER WILL BE REPORTING THIS.
A LOT OF SHUFFLING OF PAPERS ON THAT ONE.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAND NEXT TO ME IF YOU'D LIKE.
THIS IS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE RECENTLY HAD IN MAY ON THE, UM, RELOCATION OF FIRE STATION 72.
WE ENTERED INTO A PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER ON JUNE 13TH.
THAT IS, UM, SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL.
SO THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING.
AND, UM, TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF DATES, WE HAVE A 90 DAY DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.
THAT DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD ENDS IN SEPTEMBER, UH, ON SEPTEMBER 11TH.
CLOSING IS TO OCCUR 30 DAYS FOLLOWING DUE DILIGENCE.
SO THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY, UM, OCTOBER 11TH, I BELIEVE THAT'S A SUNDAY.
SO WE WOULD BE CLOSING ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 12TH.
THE PURCHASE VALUE IS FOR A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS CLOSING COSTS.
WE DID TRY TO NEGOTIATE A LOWER VALUE GIVEN ALL OF THE, UM, WORK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO ON THE SITE WITH SOILS, REMEDIATION, WETLANDS, UH, DESIGN AND ENGINEERING AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO COME TO ANYTHING ANY LESS THAN $1 MILLION.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE CONTRACT.
UH, WHAT WAS THE LISTING PRICE? UM, IT WAS 1.08808 MILLION.
I STILL, I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, THIS, BECAUSE IT IS IN MY DISTRICT.
AND I AM ONE BLOCK FROM WHERE THE FIRE STATION IS.
NOW, WHEN YOU HAVE CALLS GOING THROUGH, WELL, LET ME GO BACK, IS THE CORNER OF WICKHAM AND SARNO IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST, ONE OF THE DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS IN OUR CITY.
AND THEN MOST OF OUR CALLS, I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN DIFFERENT NUMBERS HERE BECAUSE I LIVE THERE AND I'M LIKE ON, THEY WERE SAYING 1200 WAS ON THE WEST SIDE.
I FIND THAT REALLY HARD BECAUSE I HEAR THE, WHEN THEY GO TO THE WEST SIDE GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
SO NOW GOING THROUGH THAT WINTER INTERSECTION, MOST OF THE CALLS, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE HEAT MAP, WERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF WICKHAM ROAD.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STOP FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC HOW MANY TIMES A DAY A YEAR TO GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
PUTTING IT ON THE WEST SIDE OF WICKHAM ROAD IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN HIT RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY OWN OFFICE, CROSSING OVER FROM FOUNTAINHEAD BOULEVARD INTO MY IN FOUNTAIN GOING OVER AND PEOPLE FORGET TO STOP.
I HIT AN XJ SIX JAGUAR AT THE TIME.
IT'S A HEAVY CAR, AND SOMEBODY HIT ME SO HARD, SHE ALMOST SPUN THE CAR.
UM, I'VE LOST MY MOTHER BECAUSE OF THAT ACCIDENT.
I FIND IT VERY HARD THAT PEOPLE DON'T STOP.
THEY MIGHT HEAR THE SOUND OF THE SOUND AND THE LIGHTS, AND I HAD THE GREEN LIGHT.
THAT PERSON WENT RIGHT THROUGH THE RED LIGHT.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS A SAFETY ISSUE, PUTTING IT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THERE.
HOW MANY TIMES THAT, UM, YOU HOLD YOUR BREATH, WE'RE GONNA HOLD HER BREATH WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THE CALLS ON THE EAST SIDE, AND YOU COULD HAVE PUT IT ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND I KNOW THAT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE TPO THINGS, THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS CORNERS IN A, IN BREVARD COUNTY, IS A SARNO AND WICKHAM CORNER.
SO YOU'RE MAKING ALL THOSE PEOPLE STOP FOR EVERY CALL AND YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA STOP, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA STOP AT A DYING FOR IT IN FRONT OF MY OFFICE BUILDING.
HOW MANY TIMES I HEAR THE CRASHES AT THAT, AT THAT LIGHT.
I MEAN, I KNOW I JUST DING DING, DING.
OH, WE ONLY GOT THREE CARS THIS THIS TIME.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING, THAT THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN A LOT MORE BETWEEN SARNO AND FOUNTAIN HEAD.
SO YOU'RE GONNA BE STOPPING THAT.
PLEASE DON'T STOP ME RIGHT NOW.
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STOPPED YOU, MA'AM.OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID, I THOUGHT YOU SAID NO.
AND I'M THE CHAIR, SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING, TRYING TO LISTEN TO YOU.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID SOMETHING ELSE.
I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING.
BUT I'M FINDING THAT REALLY TOUGH TO GO ON THE WESTERN SIDE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AND WE'RE GONNA SPEND AN EXTRA $2 MILLION FOR THIS, FOR FIVE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAINED AND THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE SAFETY FOR ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY AND THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES IN THERE.
AND HOW MANY TIMES WE'RE GONNA STOP THE TRAFFIC THERE GOING THROUGH.
AND I BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE GONNA VOTE KNOW.
AND I'M, AND I'M LIKE GOING, BECAUSE IT'S A, THIS IS MY DISTRICT, THIS IS WHERE I LIVE.
AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS THIS GREAT, I, YOU KNOW, I YOU LIVE CLOSE TO IT, BUT MOST OTHER PEOPLE DON'T.
I CAN SEE THE FIREHOUSE FROM MY OFFICE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, IF WHERE WE'RE PUTTING, WHY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANNA PUT IT OVER ON THE WESTERN SIDE, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME SOMEHOW WHY YOU WANNA PUT ON THE WESTERN SIDE WHEN THE TRAFFIC CALL, I MEAN, TRAFFIC CALLS.
THE CALLS ARE ON THE EASTERN SIDE.
PLEASE, SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.
WELL, I I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE, THE RESIDENTS CAME OUT.
UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, UM, WANTED, DID NOT WANT IT INTO THE PARK.
WELL, I'M, I'M STILL SPEAKING NOW.
SO, AND, AND I'M EXPLAINING, I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
THEN OF COURSE, OUR, OUR FIRE CHIEF SAID THAT THAT AREA IS ACCEPTABLE.
UM, AND WE DISCUSSED ABOUT THE DELAY, UH, ON RESPONSE TIME AND WHAT WE COULD DO TO INCREASE THAT RESPONSE TIME.
SO YOU ARE A VOTE, MS. HANLEY.
UM, AND, AND I, I COMPLETELY HEAR WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW A VOTE GOES TONIGHT.
SO, UM, TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF MS. HANLEY'S POINT ON A DIFFERENT ITEM, UM, ON THE BUDGET SIDE OF IT.
SO IF WE'RE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY, UM, LAND ACQUISITION WISE, I KNOW THAT WE WERE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE FOUND A PLACE, FOUND A HOME, UH, THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT UNFORTUNATELY THE, THE SELLER WOULDN'T GO DOWN ON.
HOW, WHAT BALLPARK, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE ON TOP OF THIS $1 MILLION? I BELIEVE WE ESTIMATED OVER ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS OR SO IN SITE WORK.
SO THIS WILL BE ABOUT TWO, BASICALLY THIS IS A $2 MILLION PURCHASE.
AND THEN BUDGET WISE, WE'RE GOING INTO BUDGET.
DO YOU SEE ANY ALARM BELLS? THINGS LIKE THAT? I DON'T HAVE ROSS TO PICK ON RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, YOU GET THE, YOU GET THE, THE FUND FINANCE QUESTION ON THAT.
DO YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT REALLY STICKS OUT THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A REAL MAJOR ISSUE BETWEEN THAT $2 MILLION ON THIS? I, I WOULD HESITATE TO ANSWER FROM AN ENGINEERING SITE DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION PERSPECTIVE.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY I THINK A MILLION DOLLARS IS ABOUT CLOSE TO ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE DID DOING, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
I BELIEVE THAT'S CLOSE TO, UM, APPROXIMATE.
THERE'S NO CONTAMINATION ON THE SITE.
WE DID THE PHASE ONE, WE DID THE PHASE TWO, WE DID THE GEOTECH.
THEY DID CONFIRM WETLANDS ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, ABOUT HALF OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE WETLAND MITIGATION.
SO I, I BELIEVE IT'S PRETTY CLOSE, BUT I THINK UNTIL WE GET INTO THIS NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS THE TASK ORDER THAT'S COMING AFTER, IT'LL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THE COSTS.
AND TO SPEAK OUT AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES.
UM, AND JUST TO, TO GO BACK TO WHAT I BELIEVE ROSS SAID DURING THE, THE LAST TIME, I BELIEVE IN MAY, THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT IT, IT, IT, THERE IS MONEY AVAILABLE TO, TO ADD THIS, TO ADD THAT 2 MILLION TO THE BUDGET, BUT THAT DOES HURT OUR ABILITY TO BUILD THE NEXT FIRE STATION, WHICH IS 73.
IT'S SHIFTING FROM ONE STATION TO ANOTHER STATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO CONFIRM.
THAT'S STILL THE CASE OF WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
ANYBODY ELSE? UH, QUICK QUESTION, MS. BASSETT.
UM, I, I KNOW THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON GETTING A CERTAIN, I, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT SOMETHING TO, FOR THE CAMERAS, I MEAN, NOT THE CAMERAS, THE LIGHTS TO SWITCH WHEN PREEMPTION.
UH, WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN? UM, SO THE LATEST UPDATE THAT I HAVE, AND IF I'M INCORRECT, HOPEFULLY CHIEF WILL WAVE A SAND BACK THERE.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING THE MECHANISMS ON THE, THE VEHICLES.
WE ARE, UM, ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF ORDERING, UM, THE IPADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT GO WITH THE VEHICLE.
I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO A COMPONENT TIED TO THE COUNTY AND THE SIGNAL BOXES.
AS FAR AS ESTIMATED, UH, TIMELINE,
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I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.I WOULD DEFER TO CHIEF, BUT I KNOW THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON INSTALLING ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS ON THE VEHICLES.
BUT IT WILL BE INSTALLED AND READY TO GO BY THE TIME THIS FIRE IS, I WOULD IMAGINE.
SINCE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE DESIGN YET.
SO, YEAH, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS A TOUGH, TOUGH, UH, TOUGH DECISION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE DECIDED TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL, UH, PROPERTIES BECAUSE OF GREEN SPACE AND BECAUSE OF THE PARK.
UH, EVEN THOUGH I, I THOUGHT THE, THE, THE FUNCTIONAL USE OF THE DESIGN THAT WAS AT THE PARK PROBABLY COULD'VE HAD SOME TWEAKING AND, AND MAYBE, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH ADDITIONAL WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA, THAT COULD'VE POTENTIALLY WORKED, COULD'VE WORKED SOMETHING OUT.
AND I KNOW WE DECIDED TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, AND I WAS A PART, UH, OF THAT DECISION.
UH, BUT IN LIGHT OF THE, THE FISCAL CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE COMING UP, UH, I, I HEAR, UH, FELLOW COUNCIL, A WOMAN, UH, MIMI HANLEY'S POINTS ABOUT RESPONSE TIME, EVEN THOUGH THAT, THAT PUT COULD POTENTIALLY MITIGATE IT.
BUT IF IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT AS MUCH OF A MITIGATION.
UH, SO I MEAN, WE HAVE A REALLY, UH, TOUGH DECISION HERE.
SO, UH, SO $2 MILLION IS THE TOTAL, UH, POTENTIAL OUTLAY WITH THE PURCHASE AND THEN DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE COST OF THE FIREHOUSE ITSELF, DESIGN UNDER NEW LOCATION AND ALL THAT, THAT ALSO CORRECT.
WHAT WAS THE ESTIMATED FOR THAT? FOR THE CONSTRUCTION? I BELIEVE IT WAS WHAT DESIGN AND WAS THAT ABOUT CONSTRUCTION? SORRY, WAS IT 14? OKAY.
NOW, UH, I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT.
AND, AND REGARDING COMING UP, I KNOW WE DID SOME VALUE ENGINEERING FOR, UH, WHEN WE DID THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY, IF POSSIBLY DO THAT HERE, ANYTHING THAT COMES UP THAT WE CAN CHANGE, WHETHER IT'S TILE FLOOR, WHATEVER, TO, TO BRING DOWN THAT COST A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THE COUNCIL WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE GOT A LOT OF THE COST THAT'S ESCALATION ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BIGGER, BIGGER PURCHASE, OF COURSE MM-HMM
BUT SOME OF THAT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING $500,000 WORTH OF LOCKERS IN A POLICE DEPARTMENT I DIDN'T AGREE WITH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT WAS SCALED DOWN AND WHICH HELPED US IN THE LONG RUN.
IF WE COULD DO THAT HERE, UH, I'D GREATLY APPRECIATE WHERE WE COULD DO.
NOTED, ESPECIALLY FOR THE OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD.
SO TAJ ALS, THEY'RE FIRE FIRE STATIONS.
BUT THAT'S, UH, FOR THE CHIEF AND THE FIREFIGHTERS, THEY REALLY, THEY NEED THIS.
SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
YEAH, THEY DEFINITELY NEED IT.
MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4, 4, 2 3.
SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION, AND THEN A SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
[13. Amendment No. 1 to the professional engineering services contract with PGAL, Inc. for the Fire Department Needs Analysis and Station Design, Project No. 10321, PGAL, Inc., Houston, TX - $183,000.]
NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13.UH, MR. ENNI ON THIS A ALL THANK YOU MAYOR.
UH, THIS IS FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH PGAL FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS ANALYSIS AND STATION DESIGN.
PROJECT NUMBER 1 0 3 2 1 WITH PGAL INCORPORATED OF HOUSTON, TEXAS FOR $183,000.
UM, THIS IS A, UH, AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL, UH, BASICALLY PROVIDE FOR THE REDESIGN OF THE FIRE STATION AND THE, UH, CONFIRMATION THAT THE FIRE STATION CAN BE MADE TO WORK DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD OF THE PROPERTY PURCHASE.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING FOR, UH, ROUGHLY THE SAME DESIGN AND LAYOUT FOR THE FUTURE SITE.
UH, AT THE, UM, THE BOOZER SITE.
UH, THE ATTACHED AMENDMENT SEEKS TO AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO CONFIRM THAT WHETHER THE, UH, SITE CAN ADOPT, ACCOMMODATE THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED FIRE 72 FLOOR PLAN AND SITE DESIGN IN A POTENTIALLY MODIFIED LAYOUT.
UH, THE AMENDMENT INCLUDES PERFORMING ADDITIONAL GEOTECHNICAL WORK, WETLAND DELINEATION, WHICH WOULD BE FORMALIZING THE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS THAT WE HAVE TO MITIGATE, UH, WITH THE SITE, WHICH WOULD HELP, UH, DIAL IN WHAT OUR, UM, CLOSER TO WHAT OUR ACTUAL COSTS WILL BE FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UM, DEVELOPMENT FUNCTION.
UM, A, UM, AND HAVE THE, UM, CONCEPTUAL BUILDING SITE DESIGN, WETLAND MITIGATION, UM, SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE WITHIN THE 90 DAY INSPECTION PERIOD CONTAINED WITHIN THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT.
AT A MINIMUM, THE GEOTECHNICAL WORK, PRELIMINARY WETLAND DELINEATION AND 30% DESIGN DOCUMENTS WILL BE COMPLETED APPROXIMATELY 60 DAYS FROM COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT, UH, FUNDING IS SUFFICIENT IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NUMBER 1 0 3 2 1.
FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER 72, WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH PGAL INC.
FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS ANALYSIS AND STATION DESIGN PROJECT NUMBER 1 0 3 2 1 PGAL INC IN THE AMOUNT OF $183,000
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AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AMENDMENT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM ATTACHED.UH, ANY QUESTIONS? QUICK QUESTION, HOW MUCH IS GO, MA'AM? HOW MUCH ARE THE CLOSING COSTS ESTIMATED TO BE? PARDON? HOW MUCH ARE THE CLOSING COSTS ESTIMATED TO BE? YEAH, BECAUSE SINCE WE'RE PAYING IT, USUALLY THE SELLER PAYS, I'M A REALTOR, SO USUALLY SELLER PAYS THAT.
UM, THE, GOING BACK, GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, IT'S, IT'S A BIT OF A SPLIT.
UM, BUT SOME OF THE COSTS, UM, WE CHOSE TO, UM, INCUR BECAUSE IT HELPS US WITH ELIGIBILITY IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THERE'S FEDERAL FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A PAY OUT TO POTENTIALLY GET SOMETHING BACK LATER.
SO THE, THOSE COSTS MUCH, AS MUCH AS SOME OF THOSE COSTS MAY TYPICALLY BE BORN, BORN BY THE SELLER FOR THOSE UNDERLYING REASONS, THEY WERE, THEY WERE, UM, MODIFIED FOR THE CITY TO COVER FOR THOSE REASONS.
BUT I, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE A GREAT ESTIMATE.
I MEAN, AT, AT A MILLION DOLLARS, YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THE DOC STAMP TAXES AND, AND OTHER THINGS ARE ARE GONNA BE, RIGHT.
SO IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY A FIVE.
IT'S PROBABLY AT LEAST A FIVE FIGURE NUMBER.
HEY JAMES, I'M READING HERE ON PAGE 93 83.
WE'VE GOT FOUR CONSULT, UH, THREE CONSULTANTS INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.
UH, FOR DESIGN WE'VE GOT P-G-A-L-T-L-C AND DRMP.
DRMP AND UM, TLC ARE THE SUB CONSULTANTS.
UH, TLC SPECIALIZES IN THE MECHANICAL ASPECTS.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE HVAC SYSTEM, UH, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. UH, FIREHOUSE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A, A HIGHER GRADE DESIGN.
IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL DESIGN, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPECIALTY ENGINEERS OR YOUR HVAC FOR YOUR ELECTRICAL.
UH, AND EVEN FOR SOME OF THE PLUMBING ON SITE.
UM, DRMP IS DOING THE SITE WORK.
UH, PJL IS THE, THE, THE MAIN ARCHITECT FOR THE OVERALL, UH, BUILDING DESIGN BUILDING.
SO THEN THE, UH, WHAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT IS THE $246,479.
THAT'S THE, UM, SORRY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, TOTAL BASIC SERVICES DESIGN FEE? THAT WAS FOR THE ORIGINAL.
'CAUSE A LOT OF IT SAYS COMPLETED.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
MAYBE I'M NOT, JUST NOT READING THE NEXT PAGE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WAS THE TOTAL BASIC SERVICES DESIGN FEE, UH, FOR THE ORIGINAL FIRE STATION.
UH, THAT WAS TO PROVIDE A, UH, DESIGN BUILD CRITERIA PACKAGE.
UH, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT FOR THAT SITE.
UM, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, UH, DELAYS IN THE, UH, MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD, WE'RE SWITCHING TO A DESIGN BID BUILD APPROACH.
UH, SO THERE IS, UM, THIS WILL ALLOW FOR US TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION MUCH SOONER AND MORE EFFECTIVELY TO KIND OF HOPEFULLY RECAPTURE SOME OF THAT TIME.
SO, BUT A BREAKDOWN OF THE FEES IS ON PAGE 1 97.
SO JUST A COUPLE WENT ON PAGE 97 OF I DON'T CARE.
OH, AND I WAS ON THAT PAGE 96, I APOLOGIZE.
NO, NO, THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS, WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD.
SORRY ABOUT, SO THE, THE, THIS AMENDMENT CHANGES IT TO GETTING THE, UH, BASICALLY FOR THE NEW SITE, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WHERE WE HAD PROCEEDED TO, IN ORDER TO HAVE A SITE PLAN TO SUBMIT FOR APPROVAL, UH, THAT REQUIRED MOST OF THE SITE DESIGN TO BE COMPLETE.
UH, SO WE ARE HAVING TO TAKE A STEP BACK DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS IN ORDER TO, UM, BASICALLY REDESIGN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, UH, THE STATION CAN BE ACCOMMODATED ON THE SARNO ROAD SITE, UH, VERSUS WHERE WE WERE, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH, PROPOSING IT FOR THE JIMMY MOORE PARK EAST LOCATION.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR 13 MAYOR AHEAD, SIR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT CONTRACT WITH PGAL INC.
FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS ANALYSIS AND STATION DESIGN.
PROJECT NUMBER 1 0 3 2 1 PGAL INC IN THE AMOUNT OF 183,000 IN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AMENDMENT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM ATTACHED.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND BY MS. BASSETT.
ALL THOSE, THE MEMBERS SAY, AYE.
[21. Resolution No. 4424: A resolution amending Building Division fees (as part of the schedule of miscellaneous development fees adopted by Resolution No. 4356).]
TO ITEM NUMBER 21.THIS IS GONNA BE RE REGARDING RESOLUTION 4 4 2 4.
THE OTHER IN IS
WE REALLY AREN'T CHANGING ANY OF THE FEE AMOUNTS, WE'RE JUST CHANGING THE WAY THEY'RE CLASSIFIED.
SO WE'RE TAKING PERMIT FEES AND WE'RE MAKING THEM INTO BASE FEES AND INSPECTION FEES.
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DO WITH THE WAY THE LEGISLATORS ALLOWING PRIVATE PROVIDERS TO DO INSPECTIONS AND THE WAY WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A DISCOUNT FOR THE SERVICES THEY'RE PROVIDING INSTEAD OF THE CITY.SO WE'RE REALLY NOT CHANGING THE FEE AMOUNTS, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CHANGING THE NAMES OF THE FEES.
THE FEE AMOUNT SHOULD STAY THE SAME.
EVERYBODY IN THIS AREA AND EVERYBODY IN THE STATE STRUGGLING THROUGH THIS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
BECAUSE UP UNTIL NOW WE'VE CHARGED OUR FEES BASED ON THE COST OF THE PROJECT AND WE'RE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO JUST REALLY JUST RECLASSIFY THESE FEES, NOT CHANGE OR INCREASE ANY OF THEM.
WE'VE BROKEN PERMIT FEES INTO BASE FEE AND INSPECTION FEES, THE BASE FEES COVERS YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE, YOUR PLAN REVIEW, ALL THE OTHER STUFF, TAKING INSPECTION FEES OUT OF IT.
WELL, I, I WOULD ASSUME, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS TO TRY TO GET US COMPLIANT WITH FLORIDA STATUTES.
BEST WAY TO PUT IT, RIGHT? YES SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. THE OTHER IN
MAYOR, MAYOR, MS. BASSETT, GO AHEAD.
UH, APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4, 4, 2 4.
AND SECOND I'LL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[D. PETITIONS, REMONSTRANCES, AND COMMUNICATIONS]
NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO PETITIONS, FORS OF COMMUNICATIONS.WE'LL START OUT WITH YOU MR. NEWMAN, IF YOU WOULD, SIR.
UM, NOTHING TO ASK YOU GUYS FOR APPROVAL ON JUST A GENERAL UPDATE DURING OUR LOVELY, UH, WHAT, FOUR WEEK, FIVE WEEKS THAT WE WE'RE NOT GETTING TO SEE EACH OTHER'S FACES.
UH, I DID A LITTLE MARKET TOUR OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS FOR HISTORIC SOUTH MELBOURNE.
GOT A LOT OF INSIGHT ABOUT THE ECONOMIC AREA, ALSO CULTURALLY, HOW IT'S IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY.
AND JUST TO JUST TALK TO SOME CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT THINGS WE CAN DO TO KIND OF ELEVATE THAT AREA, KIND OF INVEST IN IT, UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, PRIVATE AND OTHERWISE.
UM, BUT JUST, UH, REALLY, REALLY ENJOYED THAT AND GLAD THAT I WAS ABLE TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.
ALSO, UM, GOT TO, ON THE FLIP SIDE, GO ACROSS THE RIVER AND MEET WITH A BUNCH OF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS.
UM, AND I WANT TO THANK, UM, CINDY AND HER TEAM FOR HELPING, UH, ARRANGE THAT FOR ME.
UM, WE JUST HAD A GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH 'EM, UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF DOWNTOWN AND REALLY, UM, TRYING TO FIND SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP THEM AND REALLY KIND OF CONTINUE TO, UH, TO GROW THAT AREA.
UH, OTHERWISE I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GREAT 4TH OF JULY.
AND, UH, YEAH, THAT'S ALL I GOT.
AND COUNCILMAN NOMAN, HOW, HOW MANY, WHAT WAS THE ATTENDANCE FOR THAT, THAT TOWN HALL? IT WAS ABOUT 30.
SO HOW WAS THE BIG MEBO? THE BIG MEBO WAS, IS 40 MINUTES OF A ALL ON TV NONSTOP FIREWORKS IN DC FOR, FOR THE SAKE OF THE DISCUSSION.
FOR FOLKS THAT DON'T KNOW, I DID THE MELBOURNE 4TH OF JULY PARADE, SET THAT OFF, GOTTA GO IN, WALKED IN THE PARADE, AND THEN DROVE TO ORLANDO AND FLEW TO DC AND GOT TO, UH, GO WATCH THE FIREWORKS UP THERE BY A SPECIAL INVITATION.
SO ANYWAY, IT REALLY WAS THOUGH, LIKE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS DELAYED BY THE WEATHER, TONS OF PEOPLE THERE AND THE FIREWORKS WAS LITERALLY NONSTOP.
I'VE NEVER, I I DON'T, I'LL NEVER SEE A FIREWORK SHOW LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE EVER AGAIN.
AND I WILL SAY WATCHING I WATCHED ON TV AND SEEING THE MILITARY BAND PERFORM MM-HMM
IT WAS SUPER, IT WAS REALLY FUN.
I'M THINKING OF YOU A LOT WATCHING THAT GOING UP.
OH, WHERE AM I AT IN THE CROWD? RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON TO THINK ABOUT HIM.
I GREW UP WATCHING THAT PARADE.
THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP IN THAT AREA, SO.
UH, IS THAT IT, SIR? YOU GOT, OH, THAT'S ALL I GOT.
UH, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, IT WAS NOT LIKE DC BUT OUR, OUR OWN VERY OWN MELBOURNE WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT AND PARKS AND REC DID A REALLY GREAT JOB OF, UH, PUTTING THAT TOGETHER FOR US.
DID YOU GUYS SEE THE AUDITORIUM, HOW THEY LIT UP THE AUDITORIUM? NO, I DIDN'T THAT I DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE BRIDGE PARK.
IT'S GONNA BE THERE FOR LIKE A COUPLE MORE DAYS, I THINK.
IS IT STILL AT NIGHT? I DIDN'T SEE.
I DIDN'T, I THINK IT FOR 20 DAYS DIDN'T OH.
IT KIND OF LIKE, I WISH WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ALL THE TIME THERE, BUT, UM, DID ANYBODY, UH, GET AN INVITATION ON JUNE THE 11TH FROM, I CAN'T SAY CAP, CAP CAPER, NAM CAPER NAM PLACE? DID ANYBODY GET THE INVITATION FOR THAT? I DIDN'T LOOK AT MY PHONE TODAY.
UM, BY ACCIDENT, BY, I, I WANNA SAY SOMEBODY ELSE, UM, GAVE IT TO ME AND, UM, MEDINA WAS THERE.
AND HE BASICALLY, HE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY NONE OF US WERE THERE, BECAUSE NONE OF US GOT INVITATION.
AND HE SAID SOME VERY DEROGATORY THINGS ABOUT OUR MAYOR, HOW DARE AND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT BEING THERE.
IT WAS IN MR. LARUSSO, BUT NONE OF US GOT AN INVITATION FOR IT.
BUT WE GOT THROWN UNDERNEATH THE BUS.
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I HAPPENED TO BE STANDING THERE AND HE SHOULD HAVE STEPPED BACK 'CAUSE IT'S OUR CITY.AND HE WAS TAKING ALL THE ACCOLADES FOR OUR CITY.
AND I'M LIKE, I GUESS IT, PALM BAY ISN'T THE GREATEST CITY AFTER ALL, SINCE HE HAS TO COME TO OUR CITY TO GET HIS, UM, ACCOLADES.
HOW DID YOU GET THE INFUSION? I GOT IT BY SOMEBODY GOING THERE THAT KNEW WAS GOING THERE AND THEY SAID, AND I HAD 20 MINUTES TO GET THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SAY, HEY, YOU GOING? AND I'M LIKE, AND I JUST HAPPENED TO LOOK AT MY PHONE.
AND I'M LIKE, WHAT? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS.
SO I REALLY DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT FROM PALM BAY TO COME IN HERE AND THROW US, ESPECIALLY YOU MAYOR.
AND I KNOW THAT IT WAS SAID TO ME, PEOPLE CAME UP, SAW IT ON FACEBOOK, AND I'M NOT A FACEBOOK PERSON, AND SAID, WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT ALL ABOUT? SO I DID NOT APPRECIATE THAT.
THEN I WENT, WHO'S BUSY? LITTLE GIRL,
I WENT TO THE HABITAT FOR THE, UM, THE DEDICATIONS FOR THE TWO NEW HOUSES.
AND WE GOT A PLAQUE FOR THE CITY.
SO HERE'S, UH, I WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE THERE, SO I GOT THE PLAQUE.
I DON'T, THERE I WAS IN DC AND I WILL SAY WEARING PRO WEARING VERY DIFFERENT CLOTHES.
I WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL, BUT WEARING CERTAIN THINGS GOT ME NOTICED.
SO I DID HAVE ONE-ON-ONE WITH, UM, SENATOR MOODY GAVE HER OUR LEGISLATIVE HANDED TO HER PERSONALLY.
AND IT WAS ME AND HER, NOT STAFF AND EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT MORE.
UM, I DID ADD, WAS ASKED TO BE ON AN AVIA LEAGUE OF CITIES AVIATION BOARD BECAUSE I THINK I'M A PILOT WAS VERY, DO YOU THINK YOU'RE A PILOT OR YOU ARE A PILOT? I'M A PILOT.
AM I SAYING THAT FOR, BUT, UM, I GUESS THEY WERE TRYING TO MOVE THIS INTO THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES.
I GUESS THERE'S A DIFFERENT GROUP THAT WANTS TO PUT THIS IN.
I I WAS IN A MEETING IN WITH, UM, SENATOR MOODY'S OFFICE WITH THIS GROUP.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS, I'M NOT AS A PILOT, I KNOW THE TERMINOLOGY AND I KIND OF ALMOST CRAWLED UNDERNEATH THE TABLE.
UM, 'CAUSE CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THERE THOUGHT THEY KNEW THE TERMINOLOGY OF AVIATION AND HOW THE PRODUCT, 'CAUSE WE ARE CONTROLLED HERE IN MELBOURNE.
SO YOU HAVE TO TALK, I SAY YOU TALK TO THE WORLD.
I WANT, I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHERE I'M AT.
UM, YOUR ARIA AIRPORT, MERRITT ISLAND, UM, SEBASTIAN.
THERE WAS ONE IN ROCKLEDGE TOO.
THEY'RE UNCONTROLLED AIR, AIR AIRPORTS AND SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE UNCONTROLLED AIRPORTS WANT TO HAVE LITTLE MORE CONTROL, BUT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RUNWAY SITUATION.
AND I'M LI I I'M KIND OF A LITTLE ON THE FENCE ABOUT HOW THEY WANT TO HANDLE.
NOW MIAMI, THEY HAD SOME ISSUES.
WE GO OUT THE OCEAN, WE WE'RE TAKE OFF SOME LANDINGS.
WE GO OFF THE OCEAN, YOU SEE TWO, WE COME BACK AROUND AND WE COME BACK.
SO IT TAKES MITIGATION OF SOUNDS AND EXCEPT THAT AREA.
UM, AND SOME OF THE CITIES WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE SAY IN WHAT GOES ON.
THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND CONTROL AND UNCONTROLLED HOW YOU CAN FLY IN AND IF YOU'RE UN AN UN IF YOU'RE IN AN UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TALK.
AND THEY FIGURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO TALK.
BUT I'M A, THEY ASKED ME TO BE ON THAT BOARD.
SO I'M GONNA LOOK INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT I'M, I'M A LITTLE WANNA KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING INTO BEFORE I SAY YES TO THAT ONE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT AVIATION, AND I'VE TALKED TO PILOTS THAT ARE DOWN THERE IN MIAMI RIGHT NOW, FLYING IN MIAMI.
UH, SO I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THOSE GUYS TALKING.
UM, WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE THAT I DID? UM, BUT, UM, IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE UP THERE.
THERE WAS SOME, SOMETIMES YOU'RE MEETING WITH PEOPLE UP THERE.
I DID DO, WENT AROUND WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.
UM, I ENDED UP TALKING, HAVING BREAKFAST BY ACCIDENT.
MY LIFE WAS ACCIDENT UP THERE, WALKING INTO PEOPLE, UM, SOTO'S OFFICE, THE, UH, STAFF THERE.
'CAUSE WE'RE, WE BUTT UP AGAINST THEM MM-HMM
AND THEY SAID, WHAT CAN WE DO? YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT.
WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU WITH YOUR CONGRESSMAN SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THAT WAS A BIG PLUG, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST TALKING TO US.
I TALKED TO FRANK, BUT HOLD ON.
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AND THINK ABOUT, THERE'S FRANK AND FRANKLIN HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.I SAW DEBBIE WEISSMAN, UM, AND A LOT OF 'EM, I EVEN SAW SOMEBODY IN OREGON AND THE OREGON PERSON WAS SAID, WE'LL HELP YOU IF IT LIKE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL, LIKE WITH OUR INDIAN LAGOON.
WE COULD TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
SO THEY, THAT WAS WHY I RAN, LITERALLY RAN INTO THEM.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS I GOT.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SITTING DOWN, BUT THE ONE THING WE HAD WE TALKED ABOUT IS, UM, JOLENE FROM FORT PIERCE.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FEMA MONEY.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR, ROSS CAME IN, I'LL SAY NOVEMBER, AND SAID, WE JUST, HE GOES, WE JUST GOT A CHECK FOR 2017 AND IT PUTS US LIKE OUR RESERVES OUT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESERVES ONE YEAR.
WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE WAY DOWN 'CAUSE WE'RE WAITING FOR REIMBURSEMENTS AND IT TAKES US SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET THIS MONEY MM-HMM
AND IT LOOKS LIKE, WELL, YOU'VE GOT ALL THIS MONEY, BUT WE'VE HAD TO BUILD UP OUR RESERVES FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND WE WERE TRYING TO ASK FOR WORK ON IT A LITTLE SOONER.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WAITING EIGHT YEARS TO GET REIMBURSED ON THINGS.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR BIG THINGS BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG ON OUR BUDGETS.
AND YOU LOOK AT SANIBEL AND TREASURE ISLANDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY HURTING.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
SO I DON'T, BUT THE AVIATION, THAT'S ONE OF MY THANKS.
UM, I HAVE, YOU HAVE A TRIP REPORT ON YOUR DESK FROM THE, UH, THE FAST FLY IN.
SO JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, COUNSEL AND STAFF FOR THEIR SUPPORT IN ATTENDING THAT.
UH, THANK, THANK, UH, UH, MY COLLEAGUE THERE, MIMI HANLEY.
WE BOTH WERE THERE, UH, ALONG WITH, UH, DON IS HIS NAME, UH, FROM, UM, DON WILLIS.
UH, AND, AND SO WE WERE, THE SPACE COASTS WERE REPRESENTED.
SO I ENDED UP, UH, FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES BEING ASKED TO SPEAK ON PFAS AT EVERY MEETING.
AND SO I, UH, BECAME THE UNOFFICIAL PFAS, UH, ADVOCATE.
BUT THAT, THAT PERSPECTIVE WAS MORE ABOUT, UH, OH, I SEE THE PICTURES UP THERE, WHO'S THAT GUY? BUT, UM, THAT, THAT PERSPECTIVE WAS MORE ABOUT, UH, ASKING FOR LIT, UH, A BILL TO PROTECT MUNICIPALITIES FROM FUTURE LIABILITY AND FUTURE LITIGATION.
UH, AND THEN ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES FOR, FOR TESTING AND RESEARCH.
SO I ENDED UP BEING THAT, UH, UNOFFICIAL ADVOCATE AT, AT EVERY MEETING FOR THAT.
UH, AS, AS MIMI STATED, THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD, UH, DISCUSSIONS AND CONVERSATIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT THOSE DAYS.
UH, SO DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE TRIP REPORT.
ANOTHER THING THAT, THAT REALLY, UH, I WOULD SAY HIGHLIGHT FOR ME MYSELF WAS THE CONVERSATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, IN REAL, UH, IN RELATION TO INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING.
AND I ASKED A, A CRITICAL QUESTION AT THAT.
AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT THEY COULD HELP, UH, CITIES FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING.
UH, 'CAUSE THE QUESTION I ASKED WAS REALLY ABOUT THE ROAD, UH, REPAYMENT PROGRAM AND OTHER, UH, PROGRAMS RELATED TO THAT.
AND SO THEY, THEY REALLY WANT TO, UH, BE ABLE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO NOW, AS IT RELATES TO, TO PFAS, AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, NOT RELATED TO WHAT I ASKED FOR WITH THE, THE, THE FLASH RYAN, BUT THERE, THERE ARE CIVIL CLASS ACTION CASES THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED WITH PFAS AND THAT ARE CURRENTLY HAPPENING, UH, CURRENTLY HAPPENING WITH PFAS.
AND SO I WANTED TO SORT OF GET AN, AN, AN UPDATE FROM CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT WHAT OUR CURRENT STATUS IS WITH PFAS.
AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR REPORTS WITH BREVARD COUNTY.
UH, WE, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MELBOURNE'S BEEN IDENTIFIED WITH, UH, PFAS.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT AND THEN I'LL, WE DO IT IN A MEMO THAT THE UPDATE, SO THE, THE LEGISLATIVE, THE, UM, LITIGATION UPDATE WILL, WILL COME OUT SHORTLY FOR, UM, THE FIRST HALF OF, OF, UM, THIS YEAR.
UM, AS COUNSEL'S AWARE, UM, WE ARE PLAINTIFFS IN, UH, ONE CLASS ACTION LITIGATION AGAINST, UH, PFAS MANUFACTURERS RELATED TO THE, UM, A FF MANUFACTURER AND THE FIRE TRAINING FACILITY.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH WAS ALSO ASKING ABOUT, UH, STATUS UPDATES AS RELATED TO ANOTHER CASE FOR, UM, PUBLIC, UH, WATER SUPPLIERS.
UH, WE'VE MONITORED THAT CASE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, BUT I TOLD MR. SMITH THAT I'LL REACH OUT TO OUR, UH, OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR, UM, JUST A, A LAST STATUS UPDATE.
'CAUSE THERE'S A, A FILING DEADLINE THAT'S, THAT'S COMING UP.
AND SO WE WANT TO, IF WE'RE ELIGIBLE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING THAT, THAT FILING
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DEADLINE.SO I SHOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION BY THE END OF THIS WEEK ON THAT.
AND ON THAT, ON THAT POINT, I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT WE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF PFAS, UH, ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT PUBLIC THINGS THAT I, I'VE READ RELATED TO US.
SO, AND WITH THAT DEADLINE BEING JULY 31ST, I REALLY THINK THAT IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO TAKE A, A REALLY CLOSE LOOK AT, UH, WHETHER WITH OUR CURRENT, UH, PEOPLE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH OR WITH OTHER RESOURCES TOO, BECAUSE THERE ARE MONEY THAT COULD COME BACK.
AS YOU RECALL FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT OTHER POTENTIAL SOURCES OF REVENUE.
AND I'VE WORKED ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THOSE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THIS PFAS IS, UH, OF A URGENT MATTER, NOT ONLY FOR OUR CITIZENS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO IDENTIFY, BUT I THINK FROM IN, IN LIGHT OF THE FISCAL, UH, CONSTRAINTS THAT WE MAY BE FACING, IF THERE'S POTENTIAL REVENUE THAT CAN COME BACK TO THE CITY, WE QUALIFY FOR THAT.
REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UH, TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT AND, AND, AND GO FORWARD.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT ON THE 29TH.
ON THAT NOTE, I WILL NOT BE HERE ON THE 29TH.
UH, I AM HAVING A MEDICAL PROCEDURE ON, ON MONDAY, JULY 27TH.
YOU COULD DO IT IN THE BACK ROOM IF YOU WANT.
WELL, NO, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE
UH, I'LL BE INDISPOSED FOR, FOR SOME TIME FOR THAT.
SO, UM, AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BEFORE I, I CLOSE OUT WITH MY FINAL, UH, REMARKS.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE THERE, KEVIN.
THERE'S SOME MORE PICTURES FROM THE FAST FLY IN, UH, A GREAT GROUP THERE.
NOW I WANTED TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON THIS RIGHT THERE, UH, AT OUR SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER APPLIED, BUT THEY'RE DIAMOND AWARDS, UH, FOR EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA.
AND SO, UH, AS I LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE CATEGORIES, I THINK THAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, UH, WITH THE SUBMISSION BEING OPEN, CLOSE IT OUT AUGUST 1ST.
I THINK THERE'S SOME PRETTY NOTABLE THINGS THAT WE COULD APPLY FOR THERE.
UH, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO REVIEW THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER DONE IT BEFORE, BUT I RECEIVED THIS AGAIN FROM DON WILLIS AT OUR SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES.
BUT I REALLY THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY COOL THINGS THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT.
SO I'VE SENT IT OVER, UM, BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO THE COUNCIL TO SAY IF, IF THIS, CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE AWARDS AND SEE WHAT, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT CITY MANAGER? I THINK WE HAVE APPLIED FOR SOME OF THESE IN THE PAST, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THESE, UM, THESE AWARDS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR.
AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.
AND MY LAST THING IS ON THE RIGHT THERE, UH, AGAIN, BACK TO THE HOMELESS WORKSHOP THAT WE DID, UH, LAST YEAR.
AND, AND FROM THAT WE, UH, THERE WAS INITIATIVE WHERE WE STARTED OUR MELBOURNE ASSET MAPPING, WHICH WE'RE CALLING, UH, THE MELBOURNE RESOURCES COLLABORATIVE.
THERE WAS A MEETING, UH, LAST FRIDAY BEFORE I LEFT FOR A FAMILY REUNION.
GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THERE, KEVIN.
AND YOU SHOULD SEE, UH, THE NEXT ONE.
IT SHOULD BE THE, THERE WAS, UH, ABOUT 40 NON-PROFITS IN ATTENDANCE.
AND THIS MEETING WAS AT THE PROJECT RESPONSE OFFICE.
I HAD NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE ON BABCOCK.
SO I WANT TO CONTINUALLY UPDATE US ON THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE BY THESE NONPROFITS THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER.
AND WE NEED TO START REACHING OUT TO THEIR, THEIR INTENTS TO START REACHING OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE ERGS, AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE, TO INDICATE THAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IS, IS REALLY SORT OF LEADING THE WAY.
BECAUSE OUT OF THE OTHER, UH, ASSET MAPPING, UH, INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, COCOA HAS A 9 2 2 CREW.
UH, TITUSVILLE HAS THEIR, UH,
WE ARE, WE'RE INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH THIS PROCESS AND THEY'RE GONNA BE SOME, SOME NEAT THINGS THAT ARE GONNA, I THINK COME OUT OF THAT.
SO JUST WANNA KEEP US INFORMED OF THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE THERE, MAYOR.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO SEE THE FEDERAL PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE STATE PEOPLE.
IT WAS A, A REAL, UM, I IAND THE RIGHT WORD.
I CAN'T THINK OF THE RIGHT WORD.
I NO, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
IT, IT, YOU COULD FEEL TENSION WHEN THEY TALK.
NO, IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE STATE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE MUNICIPALITIES RIGHT NOW.
SIMILAR, BUT, BUT THIS IS VERY, THIS, CAN WE ROLL THAT BALL DOWN? BUT THIS IS VERY VERT IT MIGHT, I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS, THE THINGS WERE SAID UP THERE THAT YOU KIND OF WENT REALLY? UM, THERE WAS SOME THROWING 'EM UNDERNEATH OF THE, THERE WAS SOME MAJOR THROWN UNDERNEATH THE BUS THERE, SOME T THERE TACTFUL MAJOR THROWN UNDERNEATH THE BUS.
I WANNA SAY IT'S THE, IT IS THE BIG BOYS CLUB, I GUESS.
RIGHT? SO IT WAS, THERE WAS TWO PEOP TWO OF OUR CONGRESSMEN FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHEN WE WERE GOING TO AN EVENT THAT, UM, ON, UH, ON THE CERTAIN SIDES OF THINGS THAT I GUESS THEY WERE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK.
AND LUCKILY SOME LOBBYISTS SAW IT AND THEY DIVERTED ONE OF THE OTHER CONGRESSMEN 'CAUSE THEY, UM, ABOUT SOME OF OUR ISSUES HERE IN THE STATE.
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HAPPENED TO LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND SOMEBODY RAN OUT THE, OUT THE DOOR TO, TO DIVERT SOMEBODY.AND YOU ALL KNOW ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PEOPLE, IT WAS, THAT'S NO LONGER DEALING WITH BREVARD.
WELL, HE ALREADY SAID THE BIG BOYS CLUB.
THE ONLY THING I GOT MAYOR IS, UH, UH, I STILL WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE, ANY INFORMATION THAT WE GATHER FROM THE, UM, CHAMBER ABOUT THE, UM, GATHERING, UH, IN SEPTEMBER.
UH, WHETHER WE HAVE ONE PARTICIPANT PAID FOR OR TWO, OR, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING THAT BACK TO US, UM, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT IT TO FALL BETWEEN THE CRACKS.
UM, I WANT TO THANK, UH, YOU MARCUS FOR, UM, PROVIDING THAT AFTER ACTION REPORT FOR THE, UH, FAST FLY IN.
AND I HOPE TO SEE THE SAME THING FROM YOU, MRS. HANLEY.
UH, AND THE MEL BOOM OF COURSE WAS, UH, AWESOME.
I KEPT LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER TO SEE IF DAVID WAS GONNA SHOW UP.
UH, I DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD SPECIAL INVITATION TO DC
WERE, WERE YOU ON THE SPEAKER'S, UH, ON THE SPEAKER'S BALCONY WATCHING? NO, I WAS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR BALCONY.
HOW ABOUT, AND, AND SO THAT, THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE EVENT AND I JUST, IT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, WE GIVE A GREAT SHOUT OUT TO OUR PARKS AND REC PEOPLE AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL TO THE, TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE, BOOTS ON THE GROUND KIND OF THING.
IT WAS, IT WAS, THEY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB.
AND THE LAST THING I JUST WANNA SAY IS THAT MY GRANDCHILDREN CRIED LIKE HELL BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST FIRETRUCK RIDES THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE.
WHY? BECAUSE IT SAID, BECAUSE OF TURNING OUT, HANG WITH US.
YOU CAN CALL, THEY CAN, I CAN WALK, HANG AROUND WITH US.
WELL, THAT'S VERY, THAT'S VERY KIND VIEW.
I, I FORGOT TO MENTION BEFORE, UM, VICE MAYOR KENNEDY ASKED ME TO BRING SOMETHING UP.
I INTENDED TO DO IT UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.
SO SINCE IT IS HER TURN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, ARE YOU DONE? YOU SAID YOU WERE DONE, CORRECT.
VICE MAYOR KENNEDY JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW, AND I MEAN THIS NEWS HAS ALREADY GOTTEN OUT, BUT SHE STILL, SHE WAS AT THE MEETING AT THE COUNTY LAST THURSDAY, UM, REGARDING THE PROJECT THAT IS ON, UM, TURTLE MOUND AND WHITE ROAD, CLOSE TO AURORA ROAD.
SHE DID NOTE THAT THE, UM, THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS CHANGED THE PARAMETERS OF THE WHOLE PROJECT.
AND THE PNZ BOARD VOTED, UM, ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY UNANIMOUS.
SORRY, THAT IS THE WRONG TEXT MESSAGE.
THAT WAS NOT FROM LAST WEEK, BUT SHE WAS, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SHE CALLED ME RIGHT AFTERWARDS.
SHE DID LET ME KNOW THAT THEY, UM, POST, I DON'T WANNA SAY POSTPONED, THEY WITHDREW IT BECAUSE THE, UM, APPLICANT IS CHANGING THE PARAMETERS.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE, UM, SHE HAD SPOKEN TO THE COUNTY, WHICH ABOUT THE, YOU REALLY NEED TO GET WITH THE CITY ABOUT OUR UTILITIES.
WE DID GET AN EMAIL THE NEXT DAY, UM, ASKING ABOUT OUR AVAILABILITY.
WE'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEIR STAFF ON THAT NOW AND, UM, IT HASN'T CHANGED.
WE STILL DON'T HAVE SEWER AVAILABLE, BUT SHE DID, DID WANNA POINT OUT THAT SHE WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT COUNCIL, UM, HAD VOTED AND HAD CONSENSUS TO ALLOW YOU FOR YOUR LETTER AND FOR HER TO BE THERE TO SPEAK ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
YOU KNOW, AND I, I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK ON THERE AND SAY THE VICE MAYOR DID A GREAT JOB UP THERE REPRESENTING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT I LIKE TO SEE IS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL GO, WE ALL DON'T HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE TOGETHER.
WE ALL ACT INDEPENDENTLY, BUT AS ONE VOICE.
AND I THINK SHE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
UM, I DID GET A CALL FROM, UH, THE CHAIR, UH, AND ABOUT, UH, ACTUALLY WAS IT YESTERDAY? I THINK IT WAS YESTERDAY.
UH, AND WE DISCUSSED THE, THE, UM, THE ISSUE WITH NOT HAVING THE, UH, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT.
SO HE'S VERY WELL AWARE OF IT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK SHE DID A FINE, AMAZING JOB.
AND THEN ALL I HAVE IS, NO, ALL I'M GONNA SAY IS REAL QUICK, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING ON AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS P OS THING AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HEAR P OS SAYS P OS AND KIND OF LOOKING IT UP, IT'S IN EVERYTHING.
IT'S ALMOST IN EVERYTHING WE, WE BOUGHT, I THINK IT, IT WAS IN MY AUNT, YOU BUY MY WAFFLES, I ATE THIS MORNING.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING ON LIKE, HEARING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANY POTENTIAL LAWSUITS AND STUFF.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
WE'LL SEE WHAT, HOW, WHERE ALL THAT GOES.
BUT UH, AGAIN, IT IT'S, IT'S CRAZY TO SEE, UH, WELL, HOPEFULLY, I, I GUESS WE'RE GONNA CUT AND CHASE.
WE CAN GET OUR FIRE TRAINING FACILITY, SOMETHING DONE WITH THAT AND GET, GET THAT MOVING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.
WE ALL HAD A GREAT TIME AT MBU.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, GOOD JOB TO OUR STAFF AGAIN FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
UH, OUR PARKS AND REC, UH, JOAN, UH, YOU AND YOU OFFER ON, ON THE FIRE STATION AND WHAT WORKING WITH THEM AND,
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YOU KNOW, GETTING ALL THAT TOGETHER.THE CITY IS MOVING IN A GREAT DIRECTION.
WE HAVE AN AMAZING COUNCIL AND, AND AGAIN, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF IT AND WE'LL JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
AND I'M GOING TO END THE EVENING AT 9 25.