* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ABSOLUTELY CALL TO ORDER TODAY'S BEAUTIFICATION ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOARD MEETING HERE AT 900 EAST STRAWBERRY AVENUE, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, JULY 17TH, 2026. IT IS 2:00 PM UH, WILL ALL RISE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU ALL. ALL. ALL RIGHT, STAFF, WILL YOU ASSIST US IN A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? I WILL. HUNTER BENNINGER HERE. TYLER WHITE. STEVEN NEWMAN. HERE. NICK NICHOLAS SANZONE. PRESENT AUSTIN ECONOMY. GEORGE COSCO. HERE. WADE SENTI, HUNTER, STEVEN, NICK, AND GEORGE. FANTASTIC. DOES THAT MEAN THAT, UH, HUNTER IS YOU? WAIT, ARE YOU ALTERNATE OR YES. DID HE STILL GET FROM YEAH. YEAH, HE CAN. HE CAN FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES. FOR TODAY'S, YEAH. YOU GET THE PRIVILEGE OF, UH, BEING IF YOU'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING, HE MAY MOVE, BUMPED INTO THE VOTING POSITION. YEAH. VERY NICE. OKAY, WELL THEN WE CAN MOVE RIGHT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? I WAS JUST TRYING TO PULL THEM UP. I HAVE TO ADMIT I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THEM. I READ 'EM. WELL, I DID SEE 'EM EARLIER, BUT I WANTED TO GEORGE MOTION. SO I HEAR A SECOND. I HEAR A SECOND. APPROVE SECOND FROM HUNTER ALREADY PUTTING IT TO WORK. GOOD JOB. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL ABSTAINING? WELL, UH, I'M TOLD I'M NOT ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN. OH. OH. . . I WAS JUST TRYING TO STAY SILENT AND NOT BE NOTICED SINCE I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME HOLD TO MY, UH, CHURCH CAMP. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. UH, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BRING SOMETHING UP ABOUT THE MINUTES. YEAH. UM, THE FIRST TIME I ATTENDED A MEETING, I REQUESTED, UH, THE RECORDING OF THE MEETING MM-HMM . AND RECEIVED IT. I WONDER IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT, UH, A NORMAL PART OF, UH, RECEIVING THE, THE NOTIFICATION OF RECEIVING THE MINUTES AND THEN INCLUDING THE RECORDING, BECAUSE SOMETIMES I DON'T REMEMBER THINGS THE WAY THAT THEY'RE RECORDED AND, UM, IS THAT POSSIBLE RATHER THAN I THINK WE CAN'T MAKE A STANDING REQUEST. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. I CAN'T MAKE A STANDING REQUEST FOR RECORDED MINUTES. OKAY. I DO EITHER. WRITTEN MINUTES ARE SENT OUT A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER EACH MEETING. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID. THE RECORDED MEETINGS. IF YOU WANNA HAVE A COPY OF THE RECORDED MEETINGS, YOU HAVE TO REQUEST THEM. OH. INDIVIDUALLY. INDIVIDUALLY. IS THERE ANY RULE TO EITHER ME OR MEGAN, IS THERE ANY RULE AGAINST A BOARD MEMBER RECORDING THEIR OWN RECORDING DURING A PUBLIC MEETING? I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE. RIGHT. I SO IF YOU WANTED TO USE A RECORDING ON YOUR PHONE AND HIT RECORD AND I, UH, I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT PERSONALLY. IS IT, I I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF YOU, IT WAS OKAY WITH THE BOARD YEAH. THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU COULD DO, I GUESS. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. I I MEAN, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING. IT'S, SO, I, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT. WELL, FOR INSTANCE, AND I, I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF BECAUSE I'VE SAID THAT I HADN'T SEEN THEM, BUT I DID. I HAVE SEEN THEM. I JUST DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF ME NOW. UM, AND ONE THING I NOTICED WAS, UH, THAT IT, IT, UH, MY OBJECTION TO THE, UM, STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN APPROVAL OR, OR DEFINITION OF, I FORGET WHAT IT WAS, SUSTAINABILITY DEFINITION OF HOW IT, UM, IT, IT HAD ME SORT OF OBJECTING TO IT TWICE IN THE MINUTES. AND I'M NOT SURE OF THE EXACT TIMELINE, BUT IT SEEMED REDUNDANT, BUT ALSO KIND OF EMPHASIZING OVER, EMPHASIZING MY POSITION THERE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. AND WITHOUT THEM IN FRONT OF ME, I CAN'T REALLY SAY, UM, DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PRINT THEM UP. BUT, UM, I JUST, UH, SORT OF WANTED TO BE ABLE TO CORRECT THOSE THINGS IF, IF, IF AND WHEN THEY'RE NECESSARY JUST TO, I DON'T KNOW. IT WAS ALMOST LIKE I WAS BEING SINGLED OUT FIRST. MM-HMM . OKAY. STEVEN NEWMAN SAID THIS AND THEN TWO LINES LATER, STEVEN NEWMAN SAID IS LIKE THE SAME THING, BUT YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN, KIND OF, UH, I THINK Q WE UM, CAN WE GO BACK AND NOPE, SORRY. GO AHEAD [00:05:16] PAT IN FRONT OF THAT. OH, . SO WE COULD DEFINITELY TAKE A RING SIZE TWO MINUTES NOW. YEAH. YOU GOT TWO MINUTES AGAIN. GREAT. FINE. IT'S A GOOD HAND. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU CHERYL. HERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. YEAH. UNDER UPDATES TO THE SAP, UM, REQUESTED, LET'S SEE, WHERE'S THAT LOCATED ON UPDATES I'VE GOT WHERE'S THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS UPDATE? IT MIGHT BEEN IN THE OPENING. WHAT, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT? OH, I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. YEAH, PROBABLY. WHAT SECTION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SEVEN A. WELL, IT'S SIX B SIX, UM, SIX B SAYS WHERE I REQUESTED THE APPROVAL BE POSTPONED AND THEN, UH, IT WAS MOVED TO APPROVE THE DEFINITION OF SUSTAINABILITY WHERE I VOTED NAY AND THEN MOVED BY ME TO POSTPONE THE APPROVAL. UM, OKAY. WELL IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL. IT'S JUST SAYING THAT I REQUESTED THE APPROVAL REDUNDANTLY. RIGHT. AND THEN YOU VOTED ON IT AND THE VOTE WAS NAY. SO I MM-HMM . WELL, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE DEFINITION OF A SUSTAINABILITY, MY VOTE WAS NAY. AND I POSTPONING THE APPROVAL OF SAP, I GUESS WAS, UH, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE SAP. UM, SO I GUESS THAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. YES, IT IS. IS THAT INCORRECT? IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE MINUTES THAT YOU WANT ME TO CHANGE? THANK YOU FOR ASKING . UM, I, I, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS, THIS IS THE ORDER IT WENT, BUT IF, IF I REQUESTED THAT THE APPROVAL BE POSTPONED AND THEN THE VOTE FOR DEFINITION OF SUSTAINABILITY WAS HELD AFTER THAT AND THEN THE POSTPONEMENT APPROVAL MOTION WAS AFTER THAT, THEN I GUESS THAT'S THE WAY IT WENT. I, I THINK THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT THAT I REQUESTED, THE, THE APPROVAL BE POSTPONED. IT'S REDUNDANT, BUT, UM, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE VOTED THEN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT LINE. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH HERE. 'CAUSE WE CAN'T JUST KEEP GOING AROUND THE BOTTOM LINE BEATING THE BUSH ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY. JUST TELL US WHAT YOU WANT. WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE REDUNDANCY BE REMOVED. SO REMOVING THE LINE IN THE PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS, THE LAST LINE OF THAT PARAGRAPH SAYS, MR. NIMAN REQUEST THAT THE APPROVAL OF STAFF BE PROPO POSTPONED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. UM, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE. IT, IT'S FINE. IT'S ALREADY VOTED ON. I'M JUST TRYING TO UM, WE'LL KEEP IT IN MIND FOR THE FUTURE. YEAH. ALRIGHT. AND I GUESS, UH, MY VOTE IS, MAKES IT UNANIMOUS. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. NOTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOTED. ALRIGHT, UH, WE WILL MOVE THEN INTO, WE DID ROLL CALL. WHAT MINUTES WE DID PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU PUBLIC FOR ATTENDING. WE INVITE THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND ALL THESE MEETINGS, INVITE YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY. I'M SORRY, BEFORE ALL THAT, UM, WHEN YOU APPROVED THE MINUTES, WHO, WHO, WHO GEORGE, UH, WAS MADE A MOTION. SAY, I, GEORGE WAS FIRST TIMER WAS SECOND HUNTER. READ THE SECOND. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WROTE. I WASN'T SURE. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. THERE YOU GO. I'M SORRY. UM, NO, I WAS TEASING THE PUBLIC. UM, PRESENTATIONS. WE'LL MOVE TO LISA GOODE, NUMBER SIX, UH, B ON OUR LIST REGULATORY COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE MOST VALUABLE POND MVP PROGRAM. THANK YOU. WITH SOME PICTURES IN A PACKET. WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON SCREEN, SO IT WAS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY GOES INTO PRODUCING STUFF ON SCREEN. YOU GOTTA USE WHAT ALSO TOO, WE ALSO KNOW HOW THINGS WORK WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, SO, WELL NOW I CAN SHOW PEOPLE. WE ALWAYS COME WITH A BACKUP PLAN. A BACKUP. YEAH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO GREETINGS EVERYBODY. I [00:10:01] AM LISA. GOOD. I WORK UPSTAIRS IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. UM, MY TITLE, AS YOU HEARD, IS A REGULAR FOR A COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR. THAT'S A MOUTHFUL. UM, PRETTY MUCH I MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO FOR WHAT'S CALLED AN NPDE TEST PERMIT. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT. IT STANDS FOR THE NATIONAL POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM PERMIT. IT'S A PERMIT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED WITH THE 1972 CLEAN WATER ACT. AND IT MEANS THAT ANYBODY THAT'S DISCHARGING STORM WATER INTO A WATER TO THE STATE HAS TO TELL THE STATE WHAT THEY'RE DISH DISCHARGING. SO IDEALLY IT'S ONLY STORM WATER, BUT IN REALITY, HUMANS LIVE HERE. SO ANYTHING ON THE GROUND FLOWS INTO THE STORM DRAIN, AND THEN ABSOLUTELY. DURING EVERY SINGLE TIME. SO WE TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO IMPLEMENT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO GET THE PUBLIC ON BOARD WITH REDUCING AND QUESTIONS A LOT. UM, THE ONLY, I KNOW THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THIS, BUT LIKE, DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BAFFLE BOX PROJECTS? LIKE WHY THE ONE BY THE AIRPORT BEEN STOPPED? OH, I DO. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. VERSION. YOU WANT THE REAL VERSION? I MEAN, , BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE HALFWAY THROUGH IT AND THEN EVERYTHING JUST STOPPED. YEAH. SO THAT'S REALLY A QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE TO TALK TO DANNY DROP ABOUT. OKAY. SHE'S ONE THAT, SHE'S THESE, WHO'S THAT AGAIN? DANNY. DANI. OH, DANNY. I JUST LOVE HER. OKAY. SCI. EXACTLY. UM, I KNOW THE REASON, UM, ANYWAY, BUT TAMMY GIL MIGHT ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT. AND TAMMY IS UPSTAIRS TODAY. DANNY IS NOT. YEAH. I'D RATHER, I'D RATHER TALK TO THE TO TAMMY. YEAH, TALK TO TAMMY. YEAH. UM, BUT PRETTY MUCH FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THEY DUG A HOLE AND THE HOLE WAS NOT BIG ENOUGH, OR THE HOLE HIT WATER, OR THERE'S SOMETHING WITH THE SIZE OF THE BOX AND THE HOLE THAT WAS DUG AND THE LOCATION WHERE IT WAS DUG. UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH GOING IN ON THAT. AND THERE WAS SOME VIDEO FOOTAGE THAT SHOWED THAT SOMETHING WITH THE CONTRACTOR. UM, AND SO NOW IT'S FINALLY MOVING FORWARD, AS I HEARD, LIKE THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. I DO SIT ACROSS THE HALL FROM JAMES ENNI, SO I HEAR MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, IT'S OVER HERE. A LOT OF GOOD STUFF THAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT IS STARTING GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD SHORTLY. AWESOME. THIS IS NEAR THE AIRPORT? YEAH, IT'S RIGHT ON APOLLO. IT'S A GIGANTIC CONSTRUCTION SITE. YOU SEE ALL THE OH, YEAH. IN THE BAFFLE BOX RIGHT THERE? YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S, SO THEY'RE DIGGING A HOLE FOR RETENTION OR SOMETHING. UH, THEY'RE DIGGING A HOLE BAFFLE BOX FOR THE, THE OUR BAFFLE BOX PROJECT FOR THE CITY. WHAT DO WE, WHAT'S A BAFFLE BOX? SO IT BASICALLY COL OR I'LL LET, YEAH, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK ON IT. SURE. SO A BAFFLE BOX IS A BIG GIGANTIC KIND OF LIKE SEPTIC TANK THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE GROUND. IT'S MADE OF CONCRETE AND IT HAS DIFFERENT CHAMBERS IN IT OR ROOMS. AND THE STORM WATER FROM THE STREETS WILL COME IN ONE DIRECTION AND IT FLOWS IN, UM, AND CROSSES OVER A, UH, A NETTING OR A GREAT TYPE OF THING WHERE IT'LL CAPTURE THE FLOATABLE STUFF LIKE YOUR BOTTLES AND YOUR BALLS AND STUFF. AND THEN THE POLLUTANTS, THE WATER WILL SINK DOWN, AND THEN AS IT SLOWLY IS RELEASED THROUGH THE DIFFERENT CHAMBERS, THE POLLUTANTS WILL ACTUALLY SINK TO THE BOTTOM AND THE FLOATABLES WILL GET CAUGHT IN THE TOP. SO AT THE END, AS IT GOES THROUGH ALL THE CHAMBERS, CLEANER WATER IS DISCHARGED. THEY PUT IN A STUFF CALLED GOLD AND BLUE, GOLD AND BLUE, UM, AND OTHER MATERIALS THAT GO INSIDE OF IT IN ORDER TO EAT UP SOME OF THE PHOSPHORUS AND NITROGEN THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE STORM WATER FROM FERTILIZER AND RUNOFF. WHICH STORM WATER GO FLOWS INTO THAT? FROM STREET, FROM, FROM ALL OF MELBOURNE OR, UH, WELL, THERE'S MULTIPLE BAFFLE BOXES. I BELIEVE WE HAVE 16 OR 17 IN. YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF THEM RIGHT NOW. YEAH. AND, UM, SO DIFFERENT STREETS ARE ROUTED TO DIFFERENT BAFF ROUTE. YEAH. IF YOU WANTED TO SEE ONE IN ACTION, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO SHERWOOD PARK. MM-HMM . UM, THERE'S A BIG AREA OVER THERE, AND THEN THERE'S A BAFFLE BOX IN PLACE. THEN IT HAS SEE THROUGH MM-HMM. UH, TRANSPARENT TOP. OH, NEAT. SO YOU CAN SEE DOWN IN IT IF IT'S COVERED GRAFFITI, WHICH IS USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS. ROCKET SHIPS IS THEIR GRAFFITI OF JOY. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . YEAH. SO, RIGHT. THANKS. SO, YEAH, SO THEY DO WORK VERY WELL. THE ONE ON APOLLO IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BIGGEST ONE ON LIKE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE MISSISSIPPI, OR, BUT WHO THE HECK KNOWS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHO'S DETERMINING THAT. RIGHT. SO THIS IS A NEW BAFFLE BOX? THIS IS A NEW ONE. YEAH. IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS THAT'S GOING IN RIGHT NOW. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE BIGGEST. SO NOT ONLY OUR BAFFLE BOX IS GOOD FOR STORM WATER CLEANUP, BUT ALSO WE HAVE OUR WONDERFUL STORM WATER PONDS. SO, YOU KNOW, A LONG TIME AGO IN THE EIGHTIES, SEVENTIES, SIXTIES, WHATEVER, A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WERE SELLING PEOPLE ON WATER FROM NORTH. AND YOU COULD COME DOWN HERE WHERE THOSE WATERFRONT PROPERTIES WERE ACTUALLY A STORM WATER POND. UM, A LOT OF THE PONDS THAT WERE A YES, YES, YES. WE ALL KNOW, LIKE, OH, I LIVE ON EXTRA WATERFRONT. WELL, YEAH, BUT [00:15:01] NOW THEY COMPLAIN AND THEY DO COMPLAIN A LOT. UM, BUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEIR PONDS ARE COVERED IN ALGAE OR THEIR PONDS ARE OVERGROWN OR THIS, THAT, OR EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO SAY, WELL, YOU DO REALIZE THAT THAT'S LIKE A TRASH RECEPTACLE. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T GET THAT. THEY JUST THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A BEAUTIFUL POND. UM, AND THE PONDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEWHAT PRETTY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF OUR PONDS IN MELBOURNE ARE AGING OUT. SO THEY LAST ABOUT 20 TO 30 YEARS. AND AS A RESULT OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES AND STUFF, A LOT OF THOSE POINTS THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE ARE NOT VERY SHAPE. SO WE STARTED WHAT'S CALLED THE MEL BURNS VALUABLE POND PROGRAM, OUR MVP PROGRAM LAST YEAR. UM, OUR NPDS PERMIT THAT GIVES US THE RIGHTS TO DISCHARGE STORM WATER, IT TO THE LAGOON HAS TO BE RENEWED EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND A PART OF THAT PERMIT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO TELL DEP WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IN ORDER TO CLEAN UP THE STORM WATER REPORT, BEACHES, LAGOON. SO I WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED THE MVP PROGRAM IN THAT PERMIT, UM, APPLICATION AND WHEN IT WAS APPROVED. SO LAST YEAR WE STARTED THIS INITIATIVE AND IT'S BASICALLY JUST A COMMUNITY WIDE INITIATIVE TO GET MORE STORE WATER POND WORKING IN THE WAY THAT THEY WERE DESIGNED. BECAUSE AS THE YEARS GO THROUGH, THEY WILL COLLECT THEIR GARBAGE AND THEN THEY GET BUILT UP AND THEY REDUCE THE CAPACITY. SO IF YOU GUYS WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT PAGE TWO. SO WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF PONDS HERE IN MELBOURNE, AND REALLY EVERYWHERE THERE'S YOUR RETENTION, WHICH IS YOUR DRY POND. THERE'S NO WATER IN IT ON A UTILITY BASIS. SO THEN YOU HAVE YOUR REPEAT TENSION POND, WHICH IS YOUR WET POND. OKAY? THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE WATERFRONT PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE BOUGHT NEXT TO YOU . BUT REGARDLESS OF THE STYLE OF THE POND, THE IDEA OF THE POND IS EXACTLY THE SAME. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE LITTLE PICTURE IMAGES THERE, THE WATERFALLS DOWN ON THE EARTH, IT HITS THE ROADS. IT CAN'T PERCOLATE DOWN INTO CONCRETE. SO WHAT DOES IT DO? IT RUNS OFF IN ORDER TO PREVENT FLOODING, WE PUT IN STORM WATER INLETS OR THE RAIN TO GET A BREAK AND TO GO IN. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AS IT TRAVELS ACROSS THE GROUND, IT PICKS UP ALL THE TRENCH. SO YOU SEE THE LITTLE CUP RIGHT THERE, AND THE DOG WASTES THE CUP, AND THE DOG WASTES ENTER INTO THE PIPES, AND THEN THOSE PIPES ARE DISCHARGED INTO A POND AREA. OKAY. EVENTUALLY THE SOLIDS WILL SINK TO THE GROUND, THE FLOATABLES WILL FLOAT TO THE TOP, AND YOU'LL GET A CLEAN WATER AREA LIKE THIS. AND THEN WHEN IT RAINS AGAIN, SOME OF THAT CLEAN WATER WILL GET DISCHARGED OUT OF THE PIPE. AND THEN IT'LL ENTER INTO WHAT'S CALLED THE MS FOUR, THE MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHAT BRINGS ALL THE WATER TO THE LA FOOD. OKAY. SO BENEATH THAT LITTLE PICTURESQUE, YOU HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE THERE THAT JUST SHOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. YOU HAVE YOUR INLET PIPE, THAT'S WHERE THE WATER COMES IN. YOUR INFLOW IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE CALL A WATER THAT'S CUTTING IN. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR UNTREATED VOLUME AT THE TOP. YOU HAVE YOUR PERMANENT BOTTOM AT THE BOTTOM, THAT'S WHERE ALL YOUR STAPLE, LIKE YOUR PET WASTE, YOUR FERTILE GRASS CLIP AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEN YOU AFFECT THE CLEAN WATER. EVENTUALLY THAT CLEAN WATER WILL CROSS, UM, GO ACROSS, UM, THE, INTO THE OUTLET. AND THEN OUT TO THE QUESTION, DOES THE EMERGENCY WEAR HAVE LIKE BAFF BAFFLING OR KIND OF NO, NOT REALLY. NO. BECAUSE AN EMERGENCY WEAR IS REALLY AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. IT IS WHEN WE HAVE FLOODING AND THE WATER NEEDS TO GET OFF THE STREETS TO GET AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE'S HOUSES AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. SO, NO. SO THERE IS NO TREATMENT WHEN IT CROSSES THE EMERGENCY WEAR, BUT IT KEEPS THE FLOATABLE FLOATING DEBRIS. THERE'S A, UH, CRACK RACK ON TOP OF IT. SO IN CASE THAT IS FLYING THROUGH THE AIR ON TOP FLOATING THROUGH, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THE WATER GETS SO HIGH GOING THROUGH THE EMERGENCY BARRIER RIGHT THERE. YEAH. WELL, YEAH. BUT NO, UM, , THERE'S A STORY BEHIND THAT. UM, IT WILL CAPTURE YOUR FLOATABLE SO THAT THEY DON'T GO DOWN IN AND PLUG OFF THIS SYSTEM. 'CAUSE YOUR BOTTLES ARE ONE OF THE PRIMARY CAUSES FOR CLIVE PIPES. AND IS THAT, UM, MAINTAINED ON A REGULAR BASIS, OR IT DEPENDS UPON WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO. , I'M A VERY NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT PERSON, SO, UH RIGHT. SO IDEALLY, IF YOUR CONS ARE MAINTAINED, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE THIS ONE AT THE TOP HERE. OKAY. THAT'S A BIG BEAUTIFUL POND. RIGHT. IT'S GOT A NICE LITTLE AERATION SYSTEM. THE WATER IS NICE AND CLEAR. THERE'S BEAUTIFUL VEGETATION AROUND. THIS IS ACTUALLY STORMWATER POND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE CAN . OKAY. UNFORTUNATELY, IN A LOT OF THE PONDS LOOK LIKE THE PICTURES UNDERNEATH, THESE ARE ACTUALLY THE PICTURES TAKEN FROM, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE KNEW WHERE HOBBY LOBBY WAS OR, RIGHT. OKAY. DOLLAR TREE, STAPLES HAM. MM-HMM . ALLEY. YEAH. YEAH. BEHIND THERE. YEAH. SO THIS WAS A POND THAT WAS FROM BEHIND THERE. OKAY. THIS POND WAS BUILT IN THE 1970S. IT HAD NOT BEEN MAINTAINED ONCE THE ACTUAL OWNERS, THE PROPERTY DID NOT EVEN KNOW THAT IT WAS THERE. AND [00:20:01] HOW DO I KNOW THIS? BECAUSE ON FACEBOOK, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ON FACEBOOK, SOMEBODY WHO WAS DOING A DOORDASH RUN STOPPED BEHIND THAT BUILDING TO GRAND BLANC. SHE'S LIKE, I'M GONNA SIT HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT. AND SHE POSTED A THING ON FACEBOOK SAYING, I, GOD, LOOK AT THIS AREA. THERE'S SO MUCH BIO THERE, AND THERE IS SO MUCH TRASH. WE NEED TO DO A COMMUNITY CLEANUP AND GET THIS PLACE BACK IN ORDER. AND I'M LIKE, OH, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT QUESTION. OH, NO. I WAS, I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU . YEAH, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. AND I WROTE HER AND I SAID, YOU, YOU CAN'T GO THERE. THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND SHE'S LIKE, BUT IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEY SHOULD BEEN MAINTAINING THIS. I'M LIKE, WELL, THEY WILL. AND SO THEY DID. SO WE HAD TO WORK WITH, THERE'S FIVE ACTUAL OWNERS OF THAT LITTLE STRIP MALL. YOU GOT APPLEBEE'S, YOU GOT STAPLES. MM-HMM . YOU GOT THE MAIN AREA. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO DOCTOR'S OFFICES OVER THERE. SO AT THE GRAND TOTAL OF, I THINK IT WAS $180,000, THEY DREDGED THAT POND. THEY TOOK OUT ALL THE OLD CRUD OUT OF IT. THEY GOT ALL OF THE, UM, BANKS REESTABLISHED. THEY HAD TO SIDE EVERYTHING BACK OVER. AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY INSTALLED THE FENCE MINE, BECAUSE THERE WAS A MASSIVE, I MEAN, MASSIVE HOMELESS COMMUNITY LIVING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT POND. THEY HAD CHICKENS. THEY HAD GOATED. . RIGHT. THEY HAD TO, THEY HAD TO BE EVICTED. SO ANYWAY, SO PONDS GET TO LOOKING LIKE THIS WHEN THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINED. AND THE PICTURES A LOT BETTER ON, ON THE PAGE, ON THE SCREEN. SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE WITH NON FORGOTTEN MILK. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, ABOUT THIS ONE. SO THEY SPENT THE MONEY AND NOW IS IT, UM, IS IT A DE DETENTION OR RETENTION? IS IT DRY OR IS IT WET? IT'S KIND OF A MIX OF BOTH BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY WENT AHEAD AND THEY DREDGED IT. MM-HMM . THE WATER THAT ENTERS IT WILL PERCOLATE A LOT FASTER. SO, BUT WHEN WE HAVE A HEAVY STORM, THERE IS A WATER, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINED IN THERE FOR THE DUCKS. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE A MIX OF BOTH. OKAY. I'M JUMPING THE GUN A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. BUT I, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TIMES. SURE. SO, UM, YOU SAID, UH, THE AVERAGE DETENTION POND, UH, AVERAGE LASTS 25 TO 30 YEARS. YEAH. THEY ALL LAST ABOUT 20 TO 30 YEARS. WHAT HAPPENS? DO THEY HAVE TO THEN BE DR. DUG UP? YEAH. SO IF IT'S A DRY POND, WE JUST REFER TO 'EM AS DRYING. BUT HONESTLY, IT'S EASIER. SO IF IT'S A DRY POND, YOU GO IN AND YOU BASICALLY, YOU STIR THE SOIL. MM. OKAY. OKAY. YOU JUST GO IN AND YOU AATE IT. SOMETIMES IN THE FIRST STEP IS THEY'LL, THEY'LL TAKE SOME NAILS JUST LIKE YOU DO ON A GOLF COURSE, THOSE NAIL SHOES. AND THEY'LL WALK THROUGH IT AFTER LIKE 10 YEARS AFTER THAT TAKES PLACE. THEY REALLY NEED TO GO AND, AND CHURN IT UP. AND IT'S JUST LITERALLY DIGGING THE BOTTOM UP AND CHURNING THE SOIL JUST TO REP PERCOLATE IT. WHAT IF A POND HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF REALLY WELL? UH, AND IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE. YOU'VE GOT FISH, YOU'VE GOT WILDLIFE, EVERYTHING ELSE. FOR INSTANCE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE POND THAT I LIVE BEHIND. YEAH. MOUT TRAILS, REGARDLESS OF IF IT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF A LOT, YOU'RE STILL GETTING SEDIMENTATION. AND THAT POND AND THAT POND NEEDS TO BE DRENCHED JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THE MORE PRIDE YOU HAVE FLOWING IN, THE MORE BUILDUP YOU GET ON THE BOTTOM OF IT. AND THEREFORE YOU'RE DECAP, YOU'RE DECREASING THE CAPACITY OF THE POND. SO IT'S NOT HOLDING AS MUCH WATER AS IT SHOULD. SO THAT POND IS NOT DOING THE TREATMENT THAT IT SHOULD FOR THE RELEASE WATER. WHAT'S THE COST OF DREDGING A TWO ACRE POND? THAT I CANNOT TELL YOU BECAUSE IT VARIES VERY SIGNIFICANTLY FROM CONTRACTOR TO CONTRACTOR. BUT IT IS A LOT. AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING PUBLIC, HONESTLY. SO, YEAH. SO STAY TUNED, . SO ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH PONDS THAT ARE IN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AGING BRACKET IS DIY PROJECTS. DO IT YOURSELF, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL GO AHEAD AND THEY'LL SAY, HEY, OUR POND ISN'T DRAINING AS WELL AS IT SHOULD. JUST LIKE YOU WERE COMMENTING ON, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BOTHERED TO MAINTAIN OR THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN IT DREDGED. SO THEY WILL CREATE CONTRAPTIONS LIKE THE ONE THAT HERE, THIS IS FROM LONGWOOD SUBDIVISION. UH, LONGWOOD IS LOCATED ON LAKE WASHINGTON AND COMB JUST BEHIND THE PUBLIX OVER THERE. UM, NICE LITTLE SUBDIVISION, WHATEVER. THEY JUST TRIED TO DO IT THEMSELVES. THEIR POND WAS NOT DRAINING. THEIR STREETS WERE CLOTTING. SO THEY DECIDED, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, IS ALL THE TRASH FROM PUBLIX IS FLOWING INTO OUR POND. AND THEY'RE RIGHT. IT IS BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? AND THEY CREATED AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THEIR HOA AND THAT PLAZA OWNERS THAT THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THE POND. ALL THE PUBLIX STORM WATER, NOT VERY SMART. YEAH. THEY SCREWED THEIR SELF ON THAT . EXACTLY. SO NOW THEY HAVE ALL THEIR TRASH BLOWING IN. SO THEIR PEOPLE, WHATEVER, THEY DECIDED TO CREATE THIS TRASH RACK AND THEY STUCK IT ON TOP. WELL, GUESS WHAT THIS TRASH RACK DID? IT CAUSED A GIGANTIC BLOCKAGE WHENEVER IT RAINED, WHEN WE HAD TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS AND THEIR STREETS WOULD FLOOD AND THEN THEIR HOMES WOULD FLOOD TOO. SO [00:25:01] OUR STREETS AND S STORM WATER DEPARTMENT WOULD GO OVER THERE AND THEY'D BE LIKE, RIP. AND THEY'D RIP THE SUCKER OUT. AND WHAT DO THE PEOPLE GO BACK AND DO BACK ON ? YEAH. SO LAST YEAR WE SAID, AND THAT IS ENOUGH. AND WE WENT AHEAD. 'CAUSE THESE ARE THE ACTUAL PICTURES FROM THEIR STREET TOO. OKAY. AND AFTER, ACTUALLY, IT WAS ONE OF THEIR RESIDENTS CALLED UP THE NEWS CREW AND THEY BROUGHT THE NEWS OUT THERE AND THEY SAID, LOOK AT OUR STREETS. THE CITY OF MELBOURNE ISN'T MAINTAINING OUR STREETS. AND WE'RE LIKE, OH NO, WE'RE MAINTAINING THESE. YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY YOU GUYS, IT'S YOUR HOA THAT'S PUTTING THESE DIY PROJECTS BACK ON. MM. SO WE WENT THROUGH AND WE RIPPED IT OUT ONE MORE TIME WHEN IT WAS A TORRENTIAL DOWNPOUR, I WAS OUT THERE AND, UH, STREETS AND STORM WATER DID IT. THEY PITCHED IT UP TO THE TRUCK, PULLED THE TRUCK BACK, AND RIPPED IT OUT. AND THEY COMPLAINED. AND THEY COMPLAINED AND THEY COMPLAINED. BUT AS SOON AS WE TOOK IT OUT, THE WATER STARTED TO FLOW AND THE STREETS WAS CLEAR. NOT FAULT. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE NEXT TWO PICTURES ON THERE. UM, WE HAVE NOW ISSUED CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTICES TO THE LONGWOOD SUBDIVISION THAT THEY HAVE TO RE-ENGINEER THEIR POND, GET IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO PERMITTED AS. AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. SO WORKING WITH BRUCE . SO THAT, UM, PICTURE OF THE FENCE, UM, IS THAT, THAT'S THE TRASH TRACK SURROUNDS THE FLOW TO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. NO, THAT'S SURROUNDS THE FLOAT IN A MAPLE OR TO THEIR, WHAT'S CALLED THE CONTROL STRUCTURE. THE CONTROL STRUCTURE IS AT THE POND AND IT CONTROLS THE AMOUNT OF WATER FLOWING OUT OF THE POND SO THAT, THAT IT'S NOT A BAFFLE BOX. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A BAFFLE BOX. NO. YEAH. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MADE THEIR OWN LITTLE CONTRAPTION. MM-HMM . YEAH. THEY CREATED THEIR OWN LITTLE CONTRAPTION TO STOP THE TRASH FROM GOING IN. THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING GOOD, BUT THEY WERE CAUSING THEIR OWN DEMISE BECAUSE THE MORE TRASH YOU HAVE BACKED UP THERE WITHOUT REMOVING IT, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM. SOMEBODY PUT IT ON THERE, THEY DIDN'T BOTHER TO MAINTAIN IT. SO THEY WOULD GET ALL THOSE PUBS, YOU KNOW, THE CUPS, THE SLURPEE CUPS, THE BOTTLES, EVERYTHING WOULD GET CLOGGED IN MULCH, AND THEN THEIR WATCH ROOTS WOULD FLOOD. SO, I'M SORRY, THAT METAL CONTRAPTION SAT ON TOP OF THE DRAIN. YES. . YES. BUT SO REMOVING IT, UHHUH REMOVING IT JUST ALLOWS ALL THAT DEBRIS TO FLOW DOWN IN WHERE YEAH. WHEREVER AND YEAH. AND THEN WHATEVER CONTRAPTION THEY HAVE DOWN THERE DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE. THEY, THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE A CONTRAPTION RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. SO THIS MATERIAL, ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO THOSE DRAINS, LIKE THE CUTS AND STUFF, THAT WOULD GET CAUGHT UP INTO OUR BAFFLE BOX. OKAY. SO THIS LEADS TO A CITY BAFFLE BOX. MM-HMM . OR THE DITCH OR CANAL. AND IT GET STUCK IN THE CANAL. YEAH. BUT SEE, OUR OUR GOAL IN ENGINEERING IS NOT TO PROTECT THE LAGOON. OUR GOAL IN ENGINEERING IS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO, LIKE, I GET PROTECTIVE PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO START PROTECTING THE LAGOON AT THE SAME TIME. AND WE ARE PROTECTING LAGOON BECAUSE OF THE B BOXES TRYING WITH THE BATTLE AND BE KEITH PROGRAM. RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP THE STREETS FREE SOME WATER. YEAH, YOU DO. YEAH. BUT THIS, THIS, ALL THIS DEBRIS IS HANDLED BY THE BAFFLE BOX, WHEREVER THAT IS. YEP. IT'S A CITY BAFFLE BOX. YEP. YEAH. IT'LL GET CAUGHT IN THE FLOAT, IN THE TRASH TRACK IN THE FLOATING BACK. YEAH. YEP. AND THEN IS THERE SOME MAINTENANCE ROUTINE WITH THESE BAFFLE BOXES THAT READ SOME STORM WATER GOES OUT THERE ONCE A MONTH AND THEY VACUUM THEM OUT? I, WE HAVE RECORDS OF ALL THAT REQUIRE HOW MUCH DEBRIS TO DEP AND YEAH. EVERYTHING. BIG VAC TRUCK, BIG BACK TRUCK. YEP. GO IN, SUCK IT OUT. THEY, I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. UH, HOW MANY, UM, HOA PONDS ARE THERE IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE? NO IDEA. NO IDEA. AND SO THERE'S NO NOTHING DONE THAT SAYS THIS POND IS 35 YEARS OLD. THIS POND IS, IS, IS SO EVERY AND EVERY, DO YOU, IS IT TRUE THAT EVERY HOA THAT MAINTAINS THEIR, THEIR POND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR POND PERIOD? YES. COST-WISE, YES. YES. IT'S THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. DREDGING WOULD BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. YEAH. YOU'RE TALKING, TYPICALLY IT STARTS AROUND 80,000. YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE A, A CITY ORDINANCE TO, IF WE WANTED TO PUSH FORWARD WITH THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D HAVE TO POINT TO COUNSEL, PUSH FORWARD WITH WHAT, TALKING ABOUT, AS IN, IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE IT A CITY ORDINANCE SAYING YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN YOUR PRIVATELY OWNED POND, WE HAVE ONE. IT'S, IT'S USUALLY IN MOST OF THE HOMEOWNERS DEED RESTRICTIONS, RIGHT? IT IS. AND ACTUALLY JUST ABOUT, ACTUALLY, EVERY TIME A PRIVATE POND IS BUILT, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A STORM WATER MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT GETS SPILLED OUT BY THEIR AGE, WHOEVER THEIR REGISTERED AGENT IS, YOU KNOW, THEIR APPOINTED PERSON. [00:30:01] MM-HMM . YEAH. AND THEN THE CITY, UM, AND MANAGER SIGNS IT AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT THEY WILL MAINTAIN EVERYTHING THAT'S AFFILIATED WITH THEIR POND AND WE WILL MAINTAIN EVERYTHING THAT'S AFFILIATED WITH FUND. SO IS THERE LIKE ANY, ANYTHING BEING DONE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T MAINTAINING THEIR PONDS? YES. TO BE CONTINUED . SO, BECAUSE THEN THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT IN THE PERMIT. OKAY. SEE, SO IF WE HAVE IT IN OUR NPDS PERMIT THAT WE'RE GONNA TELL THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT, THEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO IT. AND WE HAVE TO SHOW PROOF. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE HE WAS HERE. THE MPDS PERMIT WAS US THERE. SO WE CREATED THE MVP PROGRAM, THE MOST VALUABLE CONS PROGRAM. AND SO THE IDEA HERE BEHIND THIS PROGRAM IS, IS THAT WE WILL RECOGNIZE THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND TRY TO GET OTHERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING AS WELL. SO WHEN WE HAVE AN HOA, LET'S SAY, LIFELONG WOOD, OR WHAT'S THE NEWEST ONE? GREENBRIAR IS THE NEW ONE. UM, GREENBRIAR THREE. WHEN THEY DON'T MAINTAIN THEIR POND, WE SEND THEM A NICE LITTLE CERTIFIED LETTER THAT SAYS, THIS IS WRONG, THIS IS WRONG AND THIS IS WRONG. AND YOU HAVE X NUMBER OF DAYS TO ONE, SUBMIT A PLAN AS TO HOW YOU'RE GONNA CORRECT IT. TWO, SUBMIT A SIGNED CONTRACT AS TO WHO IS GOING TO BE DOING THE WORK WITH YOU. AND THEN THREE, A COMPLETION DATE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. IT'S A LONG SPAN OF TIME. WE USUALLY GIVE 'EM ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO DO THIS. AND SOMETIMES WE EXPAND IT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS SO INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. AND THE HOAS HAVE NOT PLANNED FOR THIS AT ALL. SO THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF INSTITUTING A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ON ALL OF THEIR RESIDENTS. AND IT USUALLY TAKES TIME, BUT IT DOES WORK. SO THERE IS, UM, BRIDGE, BRIDGE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS LOCATED ON ROAD. THEY WERE NOTIFIED THAT THEIR POND NEEDED TO BE FIXED. AND IT'S TAKEN THEM TWO YEARS THAT THEY COLLECTED A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS. I THINK ITS LIKE 124,000. THEY HAVE A CONTRACTOR IN PLACE AND THEY'RE IN THE MIDST OF DREDGING THE POND, REESTABLISHING THE BANKS, REESTABLISHING THE BAFFLE, YOU KNOW, THE CONTROL STRUCTURE AND GETTING EVERYTHING BACK TO THE PERMITTED THING TO PERMIT IT. RIGHT. SO THE IDEA HERE IS IF WE REWARD THOSE THAT ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING, THEN MAYBE WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET OTHERS ON BOARD FOR FOLLOWING SUIT AND DOING IT TOO. YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE SEEN P DO. SO, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY CITY PONDS THAT HAVE THIS AWARD, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET, RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT AN AWARD, SO TO SPEAK. RIGHT NOW IT'S REC, UH, RECOGNITION. RECOGNITION, YEAH. OR SO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST ALL CITY PONDS OR PROMOTING, BUT NO. YES, BUT NO. SO LAST YEAR WE DID GIVE IT TO FIT OF COURSE WE GAVE ONE TO FIT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THEY WERE, THEY WOULD BE ON BOARD AND I HAD A CONTACT THERE. UM, AND SO ON. WE KNEW THAT WE COULD GET IT INSTALLED. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE . YEAH. BECAUSE I'D BE, I'D BE MORE LIKE TO GET PRIVATE PONDS MORE OF THIS THING. WELL, THAT'S THE IDEA. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. YEAH. SO WE STARTED WITH WHERE WE COULD GET, WE WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO PUT UP A PERMIT PERMIT. WE HAVE TO PUT UP SIGNS EVERY YEAR. AND OUR PERMIT YEAR IS DECEMBER 1ST. AND, OR EXCUSE ME, DECEMBER 2ND UNTIL DECEMBER 1ST. SO WE PUT UP SO MANY PONDS LAST YEAR. WE PUT UP TWO, WE PUT ONE UP AT O ALLEY AND THEN WE PUT ONE UP AT, UM, FIT, LIKE YOU SEE SHOWS IN THE PICTURE. AND THEN THIS YEAR WE PUT UP 10. OKAY. SO WE HAVE 10 OF 'EM AROUND AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. DO THEY ALL GET THIS BILLBOARD? YES. YEAH. IT'S QUITE A STRUCTURE. . YEAH. I MEAN, I LIKE IT IN THE POND. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN THE POND. IT'S THE STREETS AND APARTMENT. PUTS IT UP NEXT TO THE POND. SOMEWHERE NEAR IT. OKAY. . I WAS LOOKING AT THAT WRONG. OKAY. OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST, WHERE IS THIS PICTURE TAKEN? WHICH ONE? ON THE FRONT PAGE? WHAT? THE FRONT, THE FRONT FRONT PAGE. THE FRONT FRONT PAGE WITH THE SIGN. OH, THAT IS GOING TO BE AT FIT. OH, OKAY. THAT'S AT FIT. BUT IF YOU KEEP FLIPPING, YOU'LL SEE A LIST OF WHERE ALL THE PONDS ARE THAT WE HAVE INSTALLED TO DATE. OH, OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE WITH THE NUMBERS ON THE BOTTOM. ALRIGHT, NICE. EACH SIGN IS PAID FOR BY MY BUDGET. IT COSTS ABOUT 400 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS. 4 53 TO PUT ONE IN. THAT'S FINE WITH ME. AND THEN WE GO AHEAD AND WE PAY FOR THE INSTALLATION THROUGH THE . THEY'RE ALL PROFESSIONALLY DESIGNED. SO ON THE TOP PORTION OF IT, IT LIKE EXPLAINS HOW A POND WORKS. IT'S LITERALLY THE GRAPHICS THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR PAGE, UH, FEW PAGES AHEAD. THEN WE WALK YOU THROUGH THE MODEL AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM EXPLAINS WHAT THE MVP PROGRAM IS ABOUT. GREAT. OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU KEEP FLIPPING [00:35:01] PAGE EIGHT, UM, WE WILL BE HAVING A STORM WATER POND MAINTENANCE SEMINAR. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE EVER IN ORDER. AND WE'LL BE SENDING OUT NOTICES TO ALL OF THE HOAS IN MELBOURNE. WE'RE GONNA BE INVITING THEM. UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE IN THOSE, THOSE WILL BE RELEASED IN AUGUST. THEY'RE UNDER PRODUCTION RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WE HAVE THE IMPRINT GOING OUT INTO 45,000 UTILITY BILLS, NOTIFYING THEM THAT THERE'S GONNA BE THIS MEETING TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE ON BOARD WITH LEARNING HOW TO MAINTAIN THEIR CONS CORRECTLY. AND IN THE ONE HOUR POND INSTRUCTIONS, WE'RE GONNA OFFER THEM INSPECTIONS. SO OUR ENGINEERS PROBABLY JUST ME, WILL GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THE PONDS AND SAY, THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE. THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE. THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM, BASICALLY IN ORDER TO INSTITUTE A CPR APPROACH, UH, THE MEETING, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT CONSTRUCTION OF A POND. THE PURPOSE OF THE POND IS DUE RESPONSIBILITY IS A POND. BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE JUST SIMPLY DON'T KNOW. THEY, THEY JUST THINK IT'S THERE. HEY, IT'S DOING A GOOD JOB. YOU KNOW, OUR SHEETS DON'T FLOOD, OR WE CAN FINE. IT'S NOT. AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN NOVEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AREA, I WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND YOU, WE WILL HAVE SOME CANDIDATES FOR YOU TO PICK FROM THAT HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THING OR AT LEAST ATTENDED THE MEETING SO THAT THEY CAN DO THE RIGHT THING. AND THAT WE CAN THEN FORWARD THEM WITH AN MVP SIGN AS WELL. LISA, WHEN IS THE, THE MEETING? SEPTEMBER 22ND. OH, 22ND. OKAY. YEAH. GOOD. IS THIS, UM, DO YOU HAVE YOUR HOA PONDS AND YOUR CITY PROPERTY PONDS? AND WE HAVE COMMERCIAL PONDS AS WELL. COMMERCIAL PONDS. THOSE ARE THE THREE CATEGORIES. THERE'S NO OTHER PONDS? NO, NOT REALLY. OTHER THAN MAYBE NATURALLY OCCURRING PONDS, WHICH WOULD BE CITY PONDS. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE HERE. NO. OKAY. BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE. YEAH. SO HOAS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THEIRS. COMMERCIALS ARE RESPONSIBLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE MELBOURNE MALL, THERE'S A BIG POND IN THE BACK THERE. MM-HMM . THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ONE OF YOUR CANDIDATES BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE SOME WORK ON THEIR POND RECENTLY. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR POND. THERE'S EVEN SOME OF THE PONDS THAT ARE NOT NEXT TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE STILL THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THEY OWN IT. SO LIKE, UM, THERE IS WHERE MY HUSBAND WORKS, HE'S IN A, A PLAZA. HE WORKS FOR AKINS REALS ENGINEERING GROUP, BUT, UM, IN ONE BUILDING, AND THEN YOU CROSSOVER HOLLAND STREET, AND THEN THEIR POND FOR THAT PROPERTY IS ACROSS THE WAY. SO THAT'S THEIR POND THAT'S OWNED BY JAKE Y'S ANOTHER ENGINEERING FIRM. SO, SO I HAVE A QUESTION, LISA. UM, SO FOR THE HOAS THAT DEVELOP THESE PONDS IN THE EIGHTIES, NINETIES, WHATEVER, AND IN THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS SAYS THEY MUST BE MAINTAINED, UM, THE CITY IS NEVER SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT LIKE, THIS IS THE PROCEDURE YOU SHOULD FOLLOW TO MAINTAIN YOUR POND. AND AT THE END OF 25 TO 30 YEARS, YOU'LL BE INVESTING 125, 80,000 TO WHATEVER, TO DREDGE IT. THEREFORE, I, WE ADVISE AS A CITY THAT THIS ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE SAVING FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE. THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. HOWEVER, ST. JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT IS DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. NOW, THEY STARTED INSTITUTING A POLICY OF, OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR ALL OF THE MODERN OR ALL OF THE PRESENT DAY PONDS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED. NOW, THE CITY CAN'T, I MEAN, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TELLING SOMEBODY ELSE THAT YOU NEED TO SAVE ABOUT X NUMBER OF DOLLARS? 'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE SHORT? WHOSE LIABILITY IS THAT ON? WELL, IF THE CITY COMES TO AN HOA AND SAYS, YOUR YOUR POND IS 35 YEARS OLD AND NEEDS TO BE DREDGED, THEREFORE WE, YOU NEED TO ASSESS FOR YOUR HOMEOWNERS, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. WE DON'T CALL THEM TO ASSESS. WE JUST SAY, THE ONLY THING WE CAN SAY IS YOU NEED TO BRING THAT POND BACK TO PERMITTED CONDITIONS. THAT'S ALL WE CAN SAY. BECAUSE THE PERMIT IS WHAT WAS ISSUED. THAT'S LIKE THE RULE BOOK. HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT IS PERMITTED? WE HAVE THE, I KNOW WHAT IS PER WHAT IS THE, YOU HAVE THE PLAN. WE HAVE PLANS. WE GIVE THEM BACK A COPY OF THEIR CONSTRUCTIONS PLANS AND SAY, YOU NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO THIS. HOW DO THEY TEST? HOW DO THEY TEST FOR THE RESIDUE THAT HAS BEEN BUILDING UP FOR 30 YEARS? THEY SHOOT GRADE BEFORE AND AFTERWARDS. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THE POND AND THEY MEASURE MM-HMM . OKAY. FOR THE DEPTH. THEY DO, THEY SEND OUT SURVEYORS. IT'S ALL DONE WITH DRONES NOW. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY INEXPENSIVE. I WAS VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT, THAT THE DRONE SURVEYS ARE VERY REASONABLE. AND THAT'S PAID BY THE CITY OR THE HOA THAT'S PAID BY THE HOA. IT'S THEIR RISK. IT'S THEIR PROPERTY. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO EVALUATION UNLESS THE HOA INDIVIDUALLY ASSESS IT THEMSELVES. CORRECT. I MEAN, YOU SAID YOU WOULD COME OUT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING, I MEAN, YOU COULD LOOK AT IT, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, DRONES AND WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU'D HAVE [00:40:01] TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE HOA PAY FOR THAT. YEAH. THE HOA HAS TO PAY PROBLEM THAT YEAH. WE DON'T GO OUT LOOKING FOR PROBLEMS. WE ONLY RESPOND TO PROBLEMS. IT'S ONLY PEOPLE THAT CALL IN, BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME THING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. YEAH. THEY DON'T DRIVE AROUND LOOKING FOR STUFF. THEY ONLY RESPOND. WE RESPOND. SO IF SOMEBODY CALLS IN A COMPLAINT, THEN WE GO OUT AND WE LOOK. HOWEVER, WE TRY TO BE ON THE PROACTIVE SIDE WITH WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE MOVING, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS SEMINAR, THIS STORMWATER POND SEMINAR AND SAYING, HEY, YOU GUYS REALLY SHOULD BE AWARE OF THIS. YOU KNOW? AND SOME OF 'EM TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT WATER IN THEIR HOMES. THEY DON'T WANT FLOODING AND THEY DON'T WANNA CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH THE ENVIRONMENT EITHER. BUT THEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH MY GOODNESS, WE, WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD THIS. WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS. YOU KNOW, THEY JUST INSTANTLY SEND DOLLAR SIGNS AND THEY SHY AWAY FROM IT. THAT'S WHEN WE, AND IF THEY DON'T RESPOND, THEN WE HAVE TO SEND 'EM TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. BUT IT'S A, IT'S A LOT OF DO AS WE SAY, OR ELSE WE'LL SAY, DO AS WE SAY AGAIN, DEAL, BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY, THERE'S NOT REALLY STRONG ENFORCEMENT MEASURES HERE. MM-HMM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW THAT OR NOT, BUT IT'S SO, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR ORDINANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. GIVE IT SOME TEETH. AND THAT'S SOMETHING HOPEFULLY I CAN DO FOR US IN THE FUTURE. YEAH. IT'S ALL I CAN SAY. WE NEED TEETH AND A LOT OF OUR STUFF. YEAH. AND I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF IT. THANK YOU, LISA. THESE DRONES, THEY, UM, MEASURE THE DEPTH OF THE WATER. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEY'LL DO LIKE A 3D LIDAR. DO, DO YOU KNOW THE COST OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WHAT, WHAT'S THAT FOR, FOR THE DRONES TO, TO DO THAT SURVEY? HOW MUCH IS IT? DID YOU YEAH. UM, I THINK SOMEBODY HAD SENT ME ONE OF THEIR QUOTES AND IT WAS LIKE THREE TO $400. IT WAS NOT ASTRONOMICAL. IF A, IF A POND IS FUNCTIONING WELL, EVEN IF IT'S OLD BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED, UH, AND THERE'S NO PROBLEMS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE ASSOCIATION SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT DREDGED? THEY PROBABLY STILL HAVE TO HAVE IT DREDGED. A LOT OF THE PONDS JUST NEED TO BE DREDGED SIMPLY BECAUSE OF SEDIMENTATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DIRT IS FLOWING IN. SO THE POND CAPACITY IS, IS, IS FILLING UP. AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU GOTTA TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THREE DIFFERENT ANGLES. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC, HEY, YOUR STREET'S FLOODING. IF YOU'RE FLOODING, THEN THERE'S PROBABLY A PROBLEM SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? IF YOUR STREETS AREN'T FLOODING, BUT YOUR POND IS FULL, IT PROBABLY MEANS THAT YOU'RE DISCHARGING WATER THAT HAS NOT BEEN TREATED FULLY. AND WE SHOULD AS A CITY, BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND TEST THAT WATER. IN MY MIND, , LIKE IF YOU COULD TEST THE POND'S WATER AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE WAY BEYOND THE AMOUNT OF PHOSPHORUS, BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DISCHARGING. YOU NEED TO FIX THIS. BUT DO WE HAVE THOSE CAPABILITIES? NOT YET? CAPABILITIES OR THE ORDAINED RIGHT. OF THE REACH. THE REACH, YEAH. YEAH. THE, UH, WE HAVE THE REACH ORDINANCES TO DO IT. WE SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT. WE SHOULD HAVE THE, WE, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S OUR WATER. IT'S GOING INTO OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? MM-HMM . SO WE DO HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO TAKE THAT WATER, RUN IT THROUGH CHEMICAL ANALYSIS IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS. DO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO IT? NO. YOU MEAN THE MANPOWER? PEOPLE, POWER SCIENCE. WE HAVE THE SCIENCE TO TEST THE WATER. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE PART OF ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO DO IT. WE HAVE THE SCIENCE, TERRY, TO TEST. THERE'S THE SCIENCE. WE HAVE THE SCIENCE TO DO IT. I HAVE TREAD LIGHTLY HERE. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON. WE, I HAVE A HARD STOP AT THREE O'CLOCK ANYWAY, SO YEAH, LET'S NO WORRIES. UM, IF YOU GET WHERE I'M GOING. YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH. GREAT JOB, LISA. THAT'S A FANTASTIC PROGRAM. THANK YOU. KEEP IT GOING. SEE YOU IN A COUPLE MONTHS. WE HOPEFULLY SOME CANDIDATES I'LL, I'LL MAKE, UH, JUST A QUICK COMMENT. UM, GREAT DISCUSSION FROM EVERYBODY. UM, ON THE CRITERIA, IS THERE ANY VEGETATIVE REQUIREMENT AT THE POND FOR BUFFERS? UH, NO. WE, WE SUGGEST THAT THEY MAINTAIN A VEGETATIVE BARRIER AROUND THE POND. REDUCE THE SEDIMENT THAT WOULD COME INTO THE POND. WHAT'S THAT? THAT WOULD REDUCE THE SEDIMENT THAT WOULD MAKE ITS WAY INTO THE POND. CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S A SUGGESTION, NOT A REQUIREMENT. CORRECT. IT'S A SUGGESTION. YES. SUGGESTION. BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE VEGETATION AROUND THE POND, SUCH AS SOD, SOD COUNTS. YEAH. YOU CAN'T GET BARE BONES. CAN'T BE BARE BONES. GREAT. YEAH. SEPTEMBER 22ND. SEPTEMBER 22ND. YEP. AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WELL, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU BACK AGAIN. ANYTIME. YEAH. WELL, WE'LL LOOK FOR ANOTHER UPDATE. , YOU'RE NOT FAR. THANK YOU, LISA, FOR YOU'RE WELCOME. BEING BOTH OUR PRESENTER AND OUR PUBLIC TODAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS. AND, UM, YEAH, I APOLOGIZE. I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HARD STOP AT THREE O'CLOCK. THE THE ONLY COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT HOA, UH, PONDS THAT ARE OLD AND HAVE NOT BEEN INFORMED CORRECTLY ON THE [00:45:01] COST OF DREDGING AFTER 25 FOR 30 YEARS IS GOING TO BE A REAL, UH, PROBLEM WITH HOAS THAT HAVE NOT YOUR H OA PRESIDENT SHOULD BE VERY AWARE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT TAKES TO RUN A FUNCTION. I DON'T THINK MOST HOAS ARE AWARE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE EITHER. AND SO WHEN THEY ARE TOLD BY THE CITY OF MELBOURNE THAT YOU'VE GOTTA GET BACK TO PERMIT YEAH. AND IT'S GONNA COST $120,000 TO A SMALL HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, UM, IT'S GONNA, UM, BRING UP A LOT OF, UM, CONCERNS. GONNA GO BACK TO THE HOMEOWNER. MM-HMM . I DON'T WANT MY HOUSE TO FLOOD. GO TO THE MEETING. MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE MEETING . YEAH. GO TO THE MEETING. I'LL TRY. YOU GO TO THE MEETING. I'LL BE AT THAT TO SEPTEMBER 22ND. GREAT. UM, 20 TO 30 YEARS, BY THE WAY. YEAH. YOU KEEP SAYING 25. IT 20 TO 30. IT JUST DEPENDS. I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU MAINTAIN. DEPENDS ON HOW IT'S MAINTAIN, I HOPE. UM, UPDATES ON THE APPROVAL OF THE SUSTAINABLE ACTION PLAN. STAFF UPDATES HAVE BEEN, UM, SHE'S WORKING ON IT. WORKING HAS SHE IS NOT COMPLETE YET. OKAY. WELL, NO PROBLEM. AND THE SAME FOR THE UPDATES ON THE TRACKING FOR THE GOALS. YES. AND THE SAME FOR THE UPDATES IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE UPDATES ON FUTURE SPEAKERS. UM, ANY, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR UPDATES ON FUTURE SPEAKERS? NO. UM, I HAD MENTIONED THE, UH, SOMEONE FROM, UH, FROM FDOT, RIGHT? NO, WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE, UM, KNIGHT, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZ ORGANIZATION EXACTLY. BUT SOMETHING ABOUT THE NIGHT SKY. DARK SKY. OH, DARK SKY. DARK SKY. YEAH. YEAH. THEY HAVE, UH, AN OUTFIT, UH, OFFICE IN BUREAU. MM-HMM . UH, I GOT THE, I GOT HIS CARD AT MY OFFICE. ACTUALLY. I CAN, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND I'LL, I'LL PASS IT ON TO STAFF. AND, UM, HE WILL ALSO BE AT INDIAN RIVER LAGOON DAY OR LAGOON FEST. OH, THERE YOU GO. LAGOON FEST. WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. WHAT DAY IS THAT IN? JUST A LITTLE BIT. UM, OCTOBER 17TH AT FRONT STREET PARK, YOU KNOW, WHAT TIME? NINE TO TWO. UM, GREAT. AND YEAH, IF YOU GOT IDEAS FOR SPEAKERS, BRING 'EM TO STAFF. I THINK I'D LOVE TO HAVE LISA BACK AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. YES. UH, YEAH. DE DEFINITELY WITH HER. YEAH. SHE'S A GOOD ONE. AND, UH, ANOTHER D OT WOULD BE ALSO A GOOD ONE. I HEARD. DOT MENTIONED DOT IS ALWAYS NICE. YEAH. FROM, UH, BUTTERFLY NURSERIES TALK TO SPEAK ABOUT NATIVE PLANS. SO BRINGING SOMEONE FROM DOT ABOUT THE MEETINGS AND ALL THAT. DOT DOWN. TOO MANY PEOPLE TALKING AT ONCE. SEND THEM TO STAFF. SEND THEM ALL TO STAFF. THERE'LL BE AN EMAIL FORM THAT WAY. THEY'RE TRACKED. MRC COMING IN MANGROVE PROPAGATION DAY. YES. THEY TALKED TO THE CITY. THEY WERE ALREADY, THEY HAD A PROCLAMATION FOR MANGROVE MONTH, WHICH IS THE 26TH. I DON'T REMEMBER. 27TH. I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE DAY. I SHOULD KNOW THIS. I SHOULD KNOW THIS. UM, THAT WAS TUESDAY NIGHT THAT SHE DID A PROCLAMATION. AND THEN SHE'S GONNA COME AND TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT AND OTHER THINGS IN AUGUST. AUGUST IS MRC BROOKE? BROOKE BLOSSER IS HER NAME. BROOKE IS GONNA DO IT. OKAY. UM, LOTS OF GREAT STUFF GOING TO MRC. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT QUESTION. YES, SIR. UH, COULD WE GET, WE, IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT HAVING SOMEONE FROM THE MPD HERE. UM, MPD? YES. AND I'M LOOKING AT CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES. UPDATE OR MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YEAH. GETTING TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW BUILDING OR WELL, NO. TO TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF CODE. YES. OH, GOOD LUCK. WHAT, WHAT? THAT'S WHAT I CAN SAY IS GOOD LUCK. WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR SO I CAN FIND OUT WHAT YOU NEED? WELL, UH, BA MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, MPD ENFORCES CERTAIN THINGS AND THEN OTHER THINGS ARE LEFT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. WELL, CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES ANY KIND OF CODE. UM, ANYTHING THAT'S WRONG, SAY, UM, A TRASHED HOUSE, LIGHTS, VILLAGE OR SO, SO SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT LEAVING THE, SOMEBODY THAT'S LEAVING THEIR TRASH CANS OUT, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLES POLICE THINGS. . YEAH. BUT THEY'RE ALSO IN CONTROL OF HOW BUSINESSES CONDUCT AS WELL AS IN CAPACITY, RIGHT. SOUND, ET CETERA. MM-HMM . , SO, RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. THEY'RE INVOLVED. BUT IT GOES, IT USUALLY GOES TO CODE FIRST BEFORE IT GOES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. IS THERE A SEPARATE CODE VERSUS THE MELBOURNE ORDINANCES? NO, NO. CODE CODE ENFORCES THE MELBOURNE, THE CITY ORDINANCES. YEAH. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ENFORCES THE LAW, ENFORCES THE LAW. RIGHT. SO THE ORDINANCES ARE NOT LAW. WELL, IN A WAY THEY ARE. 'CAUSE IT'S NEVER, I'M NOT GONNA JUST GO THROUGH LAYERS, SPEAK ABOUT MY LAYERS. SO YOU'D GO, YOU'D GO THROUGH CODE FIRST, AND THEN IF MULTIPLE CODE VIOLATIONS OCCURRED AND THEN POLICE WAS BROUGHT IN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BECOME THAT LIKE CHAIN OF COMMAND ISSUE AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT. FOR INSTANCE, I WAS TOLD [00:50:01] THAT, UH, IF A VEHICLE IS ON A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU KNOW, ISN'T LICENSED OR TAGS EXPIRED OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN THAT'S, UM, A POLICE DEPARTMENT ISSUE. MM-HMM . IF IT'S IN SOMEONE'S YEAH. FRONT YARD OR WHATEVER. SAME CONDITIONS, NOT ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT. YEAH. YEP. THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. RIGHT. PRIVATE PROPERTY. YEAH. RIGHT. ANYTHING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WOULD DEFINITELY BE DEALT WITH CODE'S WHEN YOU'D HAVE TO CALL CODE TO MAKE A COMPLAINT AND ET CETERA. YEAH. EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE SAME SET OF ORDINANCES, SAME CODE, YOU JUST GOTTA CALL, YOU JUST GOTTA KNOW WHO TO CALL. MM-HMM . YEAH. EITHER POLICE OR CODE. AND IF THERE IS A DEPARTMENT FROM HEAD FROM EACH DEPARTMENT, OR A PERSON FROM EACH DEPARTMENT THAT RELATES TO BEAUTIFICATION, IT MAKES SENSE. I ADD 'EM TO THE LIST OF, UH, SPEAKERS. THEY MAY HAVE GREAT INSIGHT THAT COULD HELP US BETTER, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT THE PLAN. WELL, MY POINT ABOUT HAVING THEM ORIGINALLY WAS TO, UM, TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF SOME OF THE ORDINANCES AROUND, FOR INSTANCE, LITTER CONTROL. BUT YEAH. UM, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ARE, AND WE, WE LOOKED INTO THAT AND ASKED ABOUT IT AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A PROBLEM, YOU NEED TO CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT TO HAVE IT ADDRESSED AND THEN THEY IN TURN ADDRESS THE ISSUES. IF IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF PIECES ON A PROPERTY, THEN IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANNA CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT IT. SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE, ISSUE, SOMEBODY LITTERING, GUESS WHAT IT WAS, WAS TRYING TO GET, TRYING TO GET OUR COPS TO ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING, DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF LOOK THE OTHER WAY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAD AN EXPERIENCE ONCE WHERE I LITERALLY WITNESSED THIS WOMAN LITERALLY JUST EMPTYING HER CAR OUT OF ALL THE TRASH IN HER VEHICLE AT THE O GALL PUBLIC LIBRARY PARKING LOT. YEAH. AND WHEN, WHEN SHE LEFT, I WENT BY LATER AND THERE WAS A BIG PILE OF GARBAGE THERE. AND WHILE SHE WAS DOING IT, I, I LEFT AND HAPPENED TO SEE A POLICE OFFICER THERE. YEAH. SOME REASON WE A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY AND I SAID, HEY, WE PAID FOR A COP TO SIT THERE AND A SECURITY GUARD TO SIT THERE, WHICH MAKES ZERO SENSE, BUT OKAY, COULD YOU GO, UH, MAYBE ADDRESS THIS? AND HE'S, NO, I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT. UM, YOU NEED TO GET IT ON VIDEO BEFORE AND AFTER. YOU NEED THE LICENSE PLATE, YOU NEED TO GET ON VIDEO, THEN YOU NEED TO SUBMIT THAT VIA EMAIL TO THE DEPARTMENT, AND IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PROPER CHANNELS OR SEND IT TO THE CITY MANAGER VIA LOOK. YEAH. JUST COPIES AND DOING BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. SO I WAS LOOKING TO SORT OF POWOW WITH MPD ABOUT PRIORITIZING RAISE THE PRIORITY LEVEL. WELL, IT DOES RAISE FUNDS BECAUSE IT IS, IT DOES A COSTLY THING TO LITTER ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE. THAT'S RIGHT. UM, SO I, BUT WHETHER WE CAN GET THEM ON BOARD OR NOT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY ARE, I SEE NO REASON WHY THEY CAN'T BE INVITED TO, TO JOIN US AT A MEETING. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A, A TICKET WRITING CAMPAIGN. SURE. UH, ONGOING. HEY LOOK, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET ALL THOSE LITTER BUGS AND LET'S, LET'S MAKE 'EM PAY FOR OUR PARKS. OKAY? MM-HMM . YEAH. WE'LL WORK TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I LIKE THAT. WELL, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR BUDGET. UM, WELL THOSE ARE SOME GOOD FUTURE SPEAKERS. THAT'S GOOD. AUSTIN IS NOT HERE TODAY, SO, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA TABLE HIS BEAUTIFICATION, UH, THE CHAIR, THE, THE NUMBER SEVEN E THE COMMUNITY PERSON. UM, AND THEN TODD, DO YOU HAVE THE GEM AWARD THAT YOU'VE SPOKEN ON PREVIOUSLY? YOU HAVE A GEM AWARDS UPDATE FOR US? YEAH. JUST, UH, SPOKE WITH MR. SHACKLEFORD, WHO'S WITH THE FOUNDERS MUSEUM, AND PERHAPS, UM, IF Y'ALL LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR, WE'RE HOPING ON A SATURDAY, WE THINK THAT'S PROBABLY BETTER. I KNOW I ASSUMING EVERYBODY HERE HAS THE DATE KIND OF JOB AND A LOT OF STUFF TO DO. BUT PERHAPS IF, UH, YOU DO ANY CONSENT, PERHAPS ANY DATES IN SATURDAY, UH, IN, UH, SEPTEMBER, PICK A, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF SATURDAYS WE'LL JUST KIND OF WORK SOMETHING OUT. THIS IS TO GIVE THEM THE AWARD? YES. WE'LL GIVE THEM THE AWARD. WE GO DOWN AND WE GIVE 'EM A SIGN. UH, OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WILL PUT IT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. WE'LL PUT IT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES. THE WHOLE IDEA IS ONE TO GIVE THE, UM, BOUNDARIES MUSEUM A LITTLE, UH, LITTLE LOVE. MAYBE THEY CAN GET SOME MORE TRAFFIC DOWN THERE. IT'S REALLY A GREAT THING IF YOU JUST GOOGLE IT AND LOOK IT UP. THEY'VE DONE WONDERFUL THINGS. I'VE GOT A FLYER THAT DOESN'T EVEN START TO COVER THE HISTORY OF IT. COOL. AND IT ALSO HOPEFULLY BRINGS A LITTLE, UH, ATTENTION TO THE FEED AND MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS BASICALLY STARTED FOR. SO MORE OF THESE WE CAN DO AND THE MORE WE CAN GET OUT IN THE PUBLIC EYE. SO, UM, YEAH, CAN YOU CHECK OUT A DATE SATURDAY? SEND, SEND IT IN INTO, UH, MEGAN OR CHERYL, AND THEN WE'LL, UH, GO FROM THERE. GREAT. HE'S, HE'S ON BOARD AND HE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO REALLY NICE GUY. SOME SATURDAY AND SEPTEMBER. YES. SO QUESTION ABOUT THE EMAIL. I KNOW WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THINGS BETWEEN US OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING, BUT, UM, IF IT'S AN EMAIL, UM, AND EVERYONE'S INCLUDED, INCLUDING STAFF AND, UH, I, AND THAT'S PART OF PUBLIC RECORD, RIGHT? SO CAN WE BRING THESE THINGS UP VIA EMAIL, EMAIL [00:55:01] THEM TO STAFF? INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BOARD. NO, YOU YOU EMAIL JUST STAFF AND THEN STAFF EMAIL. YOU NEVER EMAIL EVERYBODY EMAIL. BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT THERE EMAILS WERE GIVEN MM-HMM . IN THE, UH, SHEET. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND I, AND I, WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY OR DO OR SEND YOU MM-HMM . WE SEND IT TO EVERYBODY. BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO THEM, YOU HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH STAFF AND THEN IT'LL COME BACK TO US AS A WHOLE. JUST 'CAUSE OF THE FLOOR. JUST 'CAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE BECAUSE OF THAT. THE SUNSHINE. YEAH. NOT BECAUSE I, WE ALL LIKE TO BE TAN IN THE, IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE LAWS. WELL, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME IT'S THE SAME DIFFERENCE IF YOU JUST INCLUDE EVERYBODY ON THE SAME EMAIL, WHATEVER. WELL, NO. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMMUNICATING TO EACH OTHER. I'M COMMUNICATING TO EVERYBODY. YEAH. IT'S A DIFFERENCE THAN I'M COMMUNICATING TO EVERYBODY, THAN YOU AND NICK TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING. RIGHT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S TO EVERYBODY. THEN YOU AND NICK STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH. YEAH. THAT, THAT'S ABOUT, IT'S A ROBERTS RULES PROCEDURE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT IT KIND OF SUNSHINE THING. YEAH, I KNOW. UM, I, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE ON CLEAN ENERGY AWARDS YET. I'LL, I'LL GET IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TABLE A FEW OF THESE THINGS SPECIFICALLY, UM, UPDATES A, B, AND C AND ALSO RETURN D TO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL. MM-HMM . JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THOSE IN DISCUSSION. UH, ALSO THE BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM FROM AUSTIN AND CLEAN ENERGY AWARDS, SO WE CAN MOVE MOST OF THESE INTO AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, TO DISCUSSION FOR THE NEXT MEETING SPECIFICALLY? UH, I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE ANY NEW ONES UNTIL WE GET THE UPDATES, UH, FROM STAFF. MM-HMM . DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? JUST WE, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE BEFORE WE CAN GIVE A LITTLE MORE. MM-HMM . STEVE, JUST MAYBE UPDATING, UH, OUR LITTER ORDINANCES. WE, WE CAN ADD LITTER, UH, AS AN AGENDA ITEM YES. TO DISCUSS THE ASPECTS OF IT AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING. CORRECT. UH, MAYBE WHAT EXISTS, UM, STAFF, CAN YOU BRING US ANY CODE LANGUAGE AS TO WHAT EXISTS? DID SHE NOT SEND YOU SOME OF THE CODE FOR THAT ALREADY? I MEAN, IT'S ALL ONLINE. I, I IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO ACCESS. RIGHT. BUT SHE DIDN'T SEND EMAILS OUT ABOUT THAT? I DON'T THINK SO. NO, I DIDN'T. I DON'T REMEMBER READING ANYTHING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. NO, I DIDN'T READ. WE CAN WE'LL ADD LITTER AS OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IN ADDITION TO THOSE. WELL, I FOUND IT HELPFUL. UM, I MEAN, HOW DO WE, SO SAY, I MEAN, JUST LIKE WHAT SHE WAS SAYING, THE AC HERE, THE LIGHTS HERE. MM-HMM . JUST THAT LOW HANGING FRUIT. YEAH. SO HOW, HOW DO WE BRING THAT ACROSS THE COUNCIL? BE LIKE, LIKE WE SHOULD BE TURNED RECOMMENDATIONS UP THE AIR ON THE WEEKENDS AND STAFF SHOULD BE SHUTTING OFF THE LIGHTS WHEN THEY LEAVE THEIR OFFICE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD DECIDE ON HOW YOU WANT IT PRESENTED, PRESENTED TO THEM, THEN YOU WOULD VOTE ON IT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT. SO DO I MAKE THAT AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT MM-HMM . SO WE COULD DO A, UH, AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS DRAFTING A LETTER AS TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD TO THE COUNCIL. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S DO THAT. SO MOVED. I'M SORRY. YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? YEAH, I WANNA MAKE THAT A MOTION. YES. I SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE WE GO. ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. ALRIGHT. I AGREE WITH THAT. PERFECT. THERE WE GO. WE GOT A MOTION FROM HUNTER TO DRAFT A LETTER TO, UH, COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BEEB. UM, STEVE SECONDED BOTH GEORGE AND MYSELF, UH, VOTED YES. ALL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY. YES. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH, WE, WE CAN DO THAT REGULARLY TOO, AS AN UPDATE TO THEM TO GO TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND TO GIVE THEM THAT. RIGHT. AND WHAT I SUGGEST IS YOU CREATE ONE OF YOU GUYS TO ACTUALLY GO TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND PRESENT. NOW YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR OWN AS JUST A PERSON. ALRIGHT. OR YOU CAN VOTE AS A MEMBER OF THE BE OFFICIALLY, YOU HAVE TO VOTE AND AGREE AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY AND WHO'S GONNA SAY IT AND ALL THAT. YOU CAN PRESENT IT AS BIV AS WELL. MM-HMM . BUT THAT'S TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. RIGHT. THE LETTER LETTER IS VERY DO AND WHAT YOU WANNA DO AND ALL THAT. OKAY. FANTASTIC. DO I HEAR, OH, GO AHEAD STEVE. SO IF I WANTED TO GO TO THE COUNCIL MEETING AND SAY I'M A MEMBER OF BEEB, AND YOU'D HAVE TO ASK US FOR THIS, WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY FOR THIS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE EVERYBODY AGREE THAT YOU CAN GO TO BEEB AND SAY THAT YOU'RE, SAY YOUR PART, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REPRESENTING BEEB AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY. BUT YOU COULD ATTEND AND SAY THAT I'M NOT REPRESENTING BEEB. I AM HERE AS A RESIDENT, AS A, AS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS ALSO A MEMBER OF B, BUT I'M NOT REPRESENTING 'EM JUST AS LONG AS YOU MAKE THAT. RIGHT. IF I DESIGNATION CLEAR, IF I WAS JUST REPORTING SOMETHING THAT WAS A UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS DECISION BY THE BOARD, YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO ASK US FIRST IF WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL. RIGHT. WE NEED TO GET THE APPROVAL OF EVERYBODY. IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON. AND THEN YOU COULD SAY, I'M REPRESENTING THE BE AT THIS POINT. YEAH. [01:00:01] YOU CAN GO TO EVERY COUNCIL MEETING JUST AS YOURSELF. YEAH. BUT IT HAS TO BE VOTED BY EVERYBODY TO REPRESENT THE BE YEAH. THAT'S THE MAIN THING. OKAY. I THINK IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT IS, THAT WANTS TO BE PRESENTED STRONGLY TO COUNCIL, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GET A CONSENSUS AND HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE. CORRECT. YEAH. I'D BE HAPPY TO COME AND SUPPORT. UH, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING, IF WE COULD ALL SHOW UP, I THINK THAT COULD, I THINK THAT COULD HELP, UM, BE A STRONG INFLUENCE TO THE COUNCIL. WELL, SPECIFIC PLAN AND JUST, JUST ONE, ONE COMMENT ON GO THROUGH THE PROTOCOL. ONE COMMENT ON THAT. IT'S A RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. OKAY. JUST REMEMBER THAT. PUT IT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND. ALWAYS RECOMMEND IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU STAFF. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. SPECIFICALLY, I WAS THINKING OF THE, UH, UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS THAT WE HAD AROUND NO MORE NEW MEDIAS. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, BUT I'D BE WILLING TO GO DO THAT. NO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, UM, MEGAN IS WORKING ON. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING. YEAH. RIGHT. SHE'S WORKING ON THAT. WORKING ON WHAT ABOUT THE MEETINGS? SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN TALK ABOUT AND THEN DECIDE ON HOW YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH IT PRESENT OR PRESENT IT TO THE COUNCIL. WE COULD ADD THAT AS A, A LIVING MEDIAN PROJECT, RIGHT? YES. YES. NOT THE NO NEW MEDIAN'S CONSENSUS WE HAD. NO, YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S THE LIVING MEDIANS THAT SHE IS CREATING. THE, THE, THE, UM, THE VERBIAGE BOARD. YEAH. THE VERBIAGE BOARD. YES. YES, YES. SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT THE BOARD APPROVED ME TO GO PRESENT THAT CONSENSUS FINDING ON, ON THE BOARD'S BEHALF TO THE COUNCIL. I MEAN, ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS, NO, WE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT BEFORE WE VOTED. I MEAN, WE DID CORRECT ON BOARD. UM, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MEGAN COMES UP WITH BEFORE WE NOT CONCERNING THE LIVING ISSUE. HE'S TALKING ABOUT. OH, I'M SORRY. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, THE, NO NEW MEDIANS, THAT'S ALL. SO IT'S VERY SIMPLE. STEVE HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR GOING TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSING NO NEW MEDIANS. DO I HEAR A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. NO SECOND. MOTION DIES. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION, STEVE. UM, AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON. WE CAN, WE CAN REVISIT THAT ON ANOTHER DAY WHEN THERE'S OTHER MORE MEMBERS HERE. MAYBE ALSO A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. UM, DO I HEAR MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION. MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO I HEAR SECOND? I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. ENJOY YOUR FRIDAY. I'M ON MY THIRD MEETING WITH YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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