[8. Travel authorization to attend the Space Coast Regional Chamber of Commerce's 2026 Community Leadership Retreat, September 10-12, 2026 in Jupiter, FL and making a finding that the event serves a valid public purpose. (Continued - 6/9/2026)]

HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO INTO UNFINISHED BUSINESS. THIS IS GOING TO BE ITEM EIGHT AND REPORTING ON. THIS IS KEVIN MCEWEN, OUR CITY CLERK. HOW YOU DOING, SIR? SURPRISE. I'M SITTING IN THE BACK. SO I AM HERE WATCHING. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF AN ITEM THAT WAS HEARD AT THE JUNE 9TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM COME BACK TO YOU WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S MEMBERSHIP WITH THE SPACE COAST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. SO I'M HERE TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THE AGENDA REPORT. WE'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE SPACE COAST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AS YOU KNOW, FORMERLY THE MELBOURNE REGION REGIONAL CHAMBER. SINCE MARCH OF 1995, THE CURRENT MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM IS LABELED AN INVESTOR MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM, WHEREBY BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS MAKE A FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION AND INVESTMENT INTO THE CHAMBER, AND IN TURN, WE RECEIVE SOME CREDIT OR ALLOCATION DOLLARS TO PUT TOWARDS VARIOUS SPONSORSHIPS THAT THE CHAMBER OFFERS ITS MEMBERS. OUR ANNUAL COMMITMENT TO THE CHAMBER RIGHT NOW IS $4,000, AND THAT IS BUDGETED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET. SO THE BENEFITS OF BEING WHAT THEY CALL A SILVER INVESTOR AT THAT LEVEL INCLUDES RECOGNITION AT SIGNATURE EVENTS, ALLOCATION OF FUNDS TO BE PUT TOWARDS CHAMBER EVENTS AND PROGRAMS. THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT RIGHT NOW IS $1,100, AND THE ABILITY TO APPOINT ONE REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CHAMBER'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS COUNCIL MEMBER NEWMAN. EACH YEAR, FOLLOWING THE CITY'S FINANCIAL COMMITMENT, THE CHAMBER SENDS OUT A MARKETING GUIDE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR AND ASKS ITS MEMBERS HOW THEY WISH TO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS. IN THE PAST, PRIOR TO COVID, THE ALLOCATION AMOUNT THAT WE WERE GIVEN WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AND WAS PUT TOWARDS WHAT THE CHAMBER USED TO HAVE CALLED SIGNATURE EVENTS. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THE VALOR AWARDS, THE IMPACT AWARDS MANY OF YOU WOULD ATTEND AFTER COVID. THOSE LARGE SCALE SPECIAL SIGNATURE EVENTS WENT AWAY, AND THE CHAMBER BEGAN USING SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS AS MARKETING TO HELP BUSINESSES DURING THAT PANDEMIC. AND SO WE'VE HAD $1,100 ALLOCATED FOR THE PAST FIVE OR SO YEARS. AND AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SPONSORSHIP GUIDE THAT THE

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CHAMBER PROVIDES EVERY YEAR, $1,100 IS HARD TO, TO GET SOME TRACTION ON. SO AS IT RELATES TO THIS SPECIFIC COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP RETREAT, WE HAD ASKED THE CHAMBER IN ADVANCE WHEN THE ANNOUNCEMENT CAME OUT, WHETHER OR NOT THE $1,100 COULD BE PUT TOWARDS THE CHAMBER EVENT, AND IT CAN IN THE SENSE THAT IT COULD BE PUT TOWARDS THEIR CHEAPEST PACKAGE TO SPONSOR THAT EVENT, WHICH IS ABOUT 1750, BUT IT CANNOT BE USED FOR AN INDIVIDUALS REGISTRATION. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MATH, WE WOULD HAVE ENDED UP PUTTING THAT MONEY TOWARDS THAT RETREAT PACKAGE, AND WE STILL WOULD HAVE PAID A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF MONEY TO ALLOW. AT THE TIME THIS WAS WRITTEN, TWO MEMBERS TO GO. BUT SINCE THEN, I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILMEMBER HANLEY, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AND COUNCILMEMBER NEWMAN ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING AND SO SHOULD COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. BUT THE REQUESTED ACTION IS AUTHORIZED AUTHORIZATION FOR THOSE MEMBERS AND ANY OTHER MEMBERS WHO WISH TO ATTEND THE SPACE COAST REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 2026 COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP RETREAT, ALONG WITH THE FINDING THAT THE TRAVEL SERVES A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE AS DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA REPORT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCEWEN? MAYOR, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR? I JUST HAVE A I THINK IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION. OR MAYBE IT IS A QUESTION I'M SEEING RED MEANING NEGATIVE ON PAGE TWO. RIGHT. SO WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM? AND I DON'T MIND SENDING ALL THREE OF YOU. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I THINK IT'S A GREAT EVENT. IF IT WASN'T THE FIRST WEEK OF SCHOOL OR I WOULD BE REQUESTING TO GO AS WELL. HOWEVER, WHERE'S IT GOING TO COME FROM? RIGHT? SO TYPICALLY THIS AND I DON'T HAVE THE PERFECT ANSWER. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL'S TRAVEL AND PER DIEM BUDGET AND THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION BUDGET. WE'VE BEEN ADVISED BY FINANCE IN THE PAST THAT THIS IS CREDITED TOWARDS THE TRAVEL AND PER DIEM BUDGET. AND SO THAT'S THE 540000 WHICH YOU SEE PRIOR TO THAT ENTRY IN THE MEMO YOU'RE REFERENCING, WHICH I PROVIDED TO COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

SO THERE IS MONEY REMAINING IN THE TRAVEL AND PER DIEM BUDGET FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT'S WHERE THESE FUNDS WOULD BE CHARGED TO. OKAY. SO THAT BRINGS ME TO MY SECOND QUESTION. THERE'S MONEY TO ADDRESS THAT NEGATIVE THERE. HOWEVER, IS THERE GOING TO BE MONEY MOVING FORWARD TO GO TO ANY OTHER TRAVEL BETWEEN NOW AND THE END? WELL, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE IS NO NEGATIVE BALANCE IN THE TRAVEL AND PER DIEM BUDGET. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MEMORANDUM, THERE'S OVER $4,000 REMAINING IN THE REMAINDER OF FISCAL YEAR.

THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP RETREAT COSTS WOULD BE CHARGED TO. SO YOU'RE GOOD THERE SHOULD YOU WISH TO SEND MEMBERS THERE. THIS MEMO DESCRIBES THAT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS, LIKE THE LEAGUE OF CITIES DINNERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR, AND 1 OR 2 OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE SCHEDULED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD GO. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD BE OKAY FUNDING WISE THERE. THE ISSUE THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IS THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION BUDGET, WHERE RIGHT NOW, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE IS BEING CHARGED TO. THAT PUTS THAT LINE ITEM IN THE NEGATIVE. AND WE WOULD JUST DO A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT LOOKING AT THE OTHER ACCOUNTS WITHIN MAYOR AND COUNCIL BUDGET TO TO COME UP WITH THAT DIFFERENCE. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, FUTURE TRAVEL BEYOND THE LEAGUE OF CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED TO OUR OFFICE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO ATTEND AND. AND THAT WILL COME BACK TO US TO DECIDE HOW TO ADDRESS THAT. I'M ASSUMING, AND I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER, BUT I KNOW AS PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, AS A MATTER OF COUNCIL SETTING A POLICY OR SOME GUARDRAILS, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS IN NOVEMBER, EVEN BEFORE THAT, OF HOW ARE WE GOING TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO HOW ARE WE, IN THE SENSE CITY COUNCIL GOING TO REGULATE WHO WHO GOES TO WHAT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE AN ADMINISTRATOR, YOU HAVE A CITY COUNCIL POLICY THAT SAYS ANY FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES EVENT, YOU HAVE CARTE BLANCHE APPROVAL TO GO TO. AND SO THERE IS NO COMING BACK TO COUNCIL. WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE I'M O THE INSTITUTE FOR ELECTED MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS, THE LEAGUE OF CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE POLICY COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THOSE ARE ALL FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES EVENTS. AND THEREFORE, YOU'VE ALREADY EXPRESSED THAT THAT APPROVAL IS GIVEN. AND SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL WISHES TO CHANGE, IT'S YOUR POLICY. YOU'RE WELCOME TO CHANGE IT, SOMETHING I. YES, PLEASE. SOMETHING I WANTED TO ADD ADDED TO THIS CONVERSATION IS I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ITEM IN RED THAT'S UNDER TRAINING AND EDUCATION. HOWEVER, TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, AS KEVIN SAID, WE TRY TO FIND THAT MONEY WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET. SO MORE THAN LIKELY WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE REMAINING BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE IN TRAVEL AND PER DIEM TO TO DO A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO COVER THE SHORTFALL IN THE THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION. SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON WHAT IS SPENT BETWEEN NOW AND THE

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END OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE WE ARE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF FUNDING IN IN BOTH OF THESE FUNDS.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH MY QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. RUSSO. YES. JUST BACK TO THE CHAMBER FOR A MOMENT. WERE WE COMPED ONE PERSON LAST YEAR, OR IS THAT OR. I'M NOT REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, I DON'T BASED ON THE SILVER MEMBERSHIP, THERE WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH THE CHAMBER AND US, AND IT SEEMS KIND OF MUDDY. THE WATERS ARE JUST NOT REALLY CLEAR. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR VERSUS WHAT'S HAPPENING THIS YEAR? I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY MANAGER.

I'M GOING OFF OF LOOKING AT YOUR BOSS. OKAY, I'M GOING OFF OF MEMORY. I THINK WE TALKED THE CHAMBER INTO ALLOWING US TO USE THAT 1100 TO HAVE A SPONSORSHIP FOR THAT. WE WE PAID A LITTLE EXTRA TO HAVE A SPONSORSHIP, BUT THAT ALLOWED US, I THINK, TWO FREE REGISTRATIONS. I ARE NOT I TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT, BUT I DON'T RECALL THAT I RECALL DIFFERENTLY. I RECALL AND I'D HAVE TO GO LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AFTER THE MEETING AND REPORT BACK. BUT I RECALL THIS SIMILAR AGENDA ITEM COMING FORWARD IN THE IN THE CONVERSATION, I BELIEVE WE HAD A SECOND CONVERSATION IS BECAUSE COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION FOR. SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED ONE NIGHT, BUT THE EVENT IS TWO NIGHTS. AND SO WE CAME BACK AND SAID, WE'RE ASSUMING YOU ALLOWED THAT PERSON TO STAY BOTH TWO NIGHTS.

AND WE JUST CLARIFIED THAT FOR THE RECORD. AND BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE PACKAGE OF STAYING ONE NIGHT OR TWO NIGHTS, BUT I DON'T RECALL ANY OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE CHAMBER HAS GIVEN US A COMPED TICKET TO TO THAT EVENT. WELL, THEN THAT'S MY MISTAKE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WITH THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE PRESENT CHAMBER PRESIDENT AND THROUGH THE BACK DOORS OF OF CITY HALL, OF COURSE, THAT WE WERE COMPED. ONE, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE PERSON TO GO. NOW, I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG. AND, AND I CAN GO BACK AND ABSOLUTELY CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ACCURATELY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M LOOKING AT CHANGES EACH AND EVERY YEAR TO THIS PROCESS.

AND EACH AND EVERY YEAR, WE STILL PAY FOR A GRAND FOR A SILVER MEMBERSHIP FOR GRAND.

FIVE GRAND, 4000. YES, SIR. 4000. RIGHT. AND SO OUR ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN DIFFERENT PROGRAMS CHANGES EVERY YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE CHAMBER, NOT ACCORDING TO US. AND SO IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THERE IS A LOGICAL PATH OF NEGOTIATION GOING ON BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THIS. BUT TOMORROW NIGHT IS A BUDGET WORKSHOP, AND I WILL BE CERTAINLY ADDRESSING THIS TOMORROW NIGHT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY OUT LOUD THAT I SWEAR LAST YEAR WE HAD ONE COMPED. I REALLY DO. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I CAN BE WRONG IF IT PLEASES COUNCIL. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK WHILE I'M MONITORING THE TEAM SESSION IN THE BACK. I CAN COME BACK AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND SEE IF I CAN FIND ANYTHING TO REPORT BACK TO YOU. YEAH. KEVIN, I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LAST YEAR AND HOW IT CAME DOWN AND WHAT HOW IT FELL OUT. SO UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. TOO MUCH MONEY, TOO MUCH MONEY GOING OUT THE DOOR, TOO LITTLE COMING BACK IN. I DON'T THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR. I THINK THERE WAS A COUPLE YEARS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS PREVIOUSLY. I DON'T THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR. MR. LARUSSO, I, I AGREE WITH YOU. YOU KNOW, THAT THE PRICES AND ALL THAT I DO GET INFORMATION. THERE'S CERTAIN ONES ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS. LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO THESE, I HOPE THEY HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA CHAMBER THERE BECAUSE I LEARNED SO MUCH BECAUSE EVERYBODY THINKS THAT IT'S ONLY EVERYBODY'S MOVING TO FLORIDA AND IT'S NOT. WE'RE LOSING OUR 20 YEAR OLDS AND, AND THE CHILDREN WITH IT, YOU KNOW, IT EXPLAINED IT. AND IT WAS VERY YOU KNOW, HOW WE HAVE TO THINK AND ALL THAT BECAUSE OUR 20 YEAR OLDS AREN'T STAYING IN FLORIDA AT ALL. WELL, MISS HANLEY, IF I MAY, MAYOR, TALKING BETWEEN OURSELVES ON ON THE BOARD IS THAT LAST YEAR IS WHEN WE HAD THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER COME IN YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO. AND SO PRIOR TO THAT, WE WERE NOT UTILIZING THE DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT THE $4,000 AFFORDED US, FROM WHAT I COULD UNDERSTAND. OKAY. AND SO NOW WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS NOW. AND I AND I'M NOT PULLING HER OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE CLOUDS TO SAY, YOU'RE DOING A BAD JOB. I THINK SHE'S DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. YES, I AGREE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ON OUR $4,000 MEMBERSHIP AND WHAT IS ATTACHED TO IT AND WHAT IS NOT ATTACHED TO IT, AND IT SEEMS TO CHANGE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. SO I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT EXACTLY A ROAD MAP FOR THE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEARS TO COME SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND

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IF WE'RE GOING TO CUT THAT CHECK FOR FOUR GRAND, WHAT ARE WE GETTING? I MEAN, IN PAPER ON.

YEAH. IN FRONT OF ME. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I WHO I CAN SEND TO WHAT CONFERENCE, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M PAYING FOR. I WANT TO KNOW. JUST LIKE IF YOU BUY A CAR, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR, RIGHT? RIGHT. SAME THING WITH THIS. CAN WE JUST CAN WE COME TO THE AGREEMENT THAT WE JUST HAVE OUR STAFF GET THAT INFORMATION FOR US? AND I THOUGHT WE DID THAT LAST YEAR THOUGH. WELL PROVIDE WELL IT COULD IT CHANGES. IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IT CHANGES. AND IN THE I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. IT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE. I DON'T HAVE THE PAGE IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S PAGE 32. IT HAS SORT OF A CHART. LIKE YOU PICK A SUBSCRIPTION TO ANY SORT OF PROGRAM WHERE YOU PAY THIS. YOU CAN SEE UNDER THE SILVER INVESTOR COLUMN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHECK MARKS, AND YOU CAN SEE WHICH BENEFITS APPLY TO BEING A SILVER INVESTOR. AND IT OBVIOUSLY GOES UP TO WE'RE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE TIER THERE. SURE. I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE. WE HAVE ONE LAST YEAR.

IT'S BRAND NEW MAYOR THIS YEAR. HOLD ON, MR. SMITH. GO AHEAD SIR. YES. THIS THIS THIS CONVERSATION IS VERY ALWAYS A GOOD CONVERSATION. AND I, I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE AS WE THINK ABOUT THE INVESTMENT OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT WITH A CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP, IT'S NOT SIMPLY MY STANDPOINT, NOT SIMPLY ABOUT NETWORK. IT'S NOT SIMPLY ABOUT RETURN. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERY PUBLIC DOLLAR WE WE SPEND.

I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT MAYBE WE, I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO ASK THE QUESTION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF TONIGHT IS MORE ABOUT STOPPING THIS RELATIONSHIP OR IS THIS QUESTION TONIGHT MORE ABOUT GETTING VALUE OUT OF RELATIONSHIP? BECAUSE WHEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION, I MEAN, COUNCILMAN NEWMAN'S ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, SO I'M SURE THERE'S FEEDBACK THAT COMES BACK FROM THAT MEETING. I KNOW WHEN WE ATTEND THE EVENTS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABLE TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE CREATING THE JOBS, YOU KNOW, SO YOU GET A VOICE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS BEFORE PROBLEMS ARISE. I MEAN, SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN ADDITION TO THE COST. BUT THEN I AGREE WITH GETTING VALUE OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, THAT I GET MY POINT OUT THERE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. AND YEAH, WE, I GUESS WHAT THE, THE, THE, THE DISCUSSION IS, IS JUST ENSURING THAT WE ARE GETTING THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT OUT OF OUR MEMBERSHIP.

SO MR. NEWMAN GO AHEAD SIR. YEAH. AND I'M JUST GOING TO TRY TO DIRECT THIS A LITTLE BIT BACK TO THE TRAVEL AUTHORIZATION PART OF IT, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY REALLY FOR FOR THE RECORD, I REALLY THINK THAT THE CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP GOT IS, IS WELL WORTH IT. IT'S YOU GET IN, YOU GET OUT OF IT WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT. OH, I DON'T DOUBT THAT. OH YEAH, I DON'T.

WELL, AS A BUSINESSMAN YOU VERY MUCH KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. YEAH. BUT, BUT IN GENERAL THOUGH, I ACTUALLY WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE BIT OF MATH HERE WHILE WE WERE TALKING. SO THIS THIS PAPER, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, KEVIN, DOES NOT INCLUDE IF WE APPROVED COUNCILMAN HANLEY, COUNCILMAN SMITH AND MYSELF TO GO DOWN TO THIS THIS CHAMBER EVENT. SO WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR THE DOCUMENTS HERE IN THE PACKAGE, IT'S ABOUT $950 FOR TWO STAYS. LET'S SAY THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO DOES MILEAGE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LET'S SAY IT'S $1,000 A PERSON THAT'S NOT IN HERE. SO IF YOU ADDED THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN EXPENSE OF $6,732. SO NOW WE GO BACK TO OUR FUN LITTLE RED ITEM ON THE BACK. YOU GOT $2,000 THAT WE'RE MISSING HERE. AND SO WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? IF WE NOW HAVE EXPENDED BOTH POTS OF MONEY BUDGET ADJUSTMENT? WELL, NO, NO. BUT WHAT SPECIFIC. WELL NO. WELL BUDGET ADJUSTMENT HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. SO I'M BEING SARCASTIC. YEAH. BUT JENNY OR KEVIN WOULD YOU GUYS IS THERE. WHERE'S THE BACKUP? WHERE'S THAT? WITHOUT HAVING THE YEAR TO DATE IN FRONT OF ME? YOU KNOW, I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS ROOM IN, LIKE, YOUR OPERATING EXPENSES. THERE ARE THINGS THERE ARE OTHER ACCOUNTS WITHIN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BUDGET PR THAT WE COULD WE COULD PULL MONEY FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM. I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT BACK. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS I KNOW THAT WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE TOMORROW IS THESE TWO ITEMS. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE THIS, BECAUSE IT DOES RELATE TO A TRAVEL SITUATION RIGHT NOW THAT YOU ACCURATELY DESCRIBED. IF THE IF THE MONEY IS COMMITTED BY THREE PEOPLE GOING, IT DOES FILL UP A CHUNK OF THAT ORIGINAL ITEM THAT THAT RIGHT NOW HAS MONEY TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE IN THE OTHER ACCOUNT. SO BUT I CAN HAPPILY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET WHEN, WHEN THE DECISION IS MADE AND AFTER TOMORROW NIGHT AS WELL, I CAN REPORT BACK WITH PROVIDE EVERYONE WITH A YEAR TO DATE FOR EVERY LINE IN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BUDGET RIGHT NOW. AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE. OKAY. AND THEN LIKE, CAN WE JUST HAVE THAT EMAILED? IS THAT RIGHT, EVERYBODY? WELL, THAT WOULD JUST A REPORT OF THE YEAR TO DATE EXPENSES. WHAT'S AVAILABLE. YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S FINE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE WE SHOULD WE APPROVE THIS ITEM WE'RE GOING OVER. AND SO IT'S MORE SO IT NEEDS TO BE KNOWN

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NOW KIND OF WHERE WE'RE ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT REGARDLESS FOR THAT TRAINING AND EDUCATION BUDGET. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LOOK TO CITY MANAGER AND FINANCE STAFF IF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BUDGET CAN'T COVER THAT, THEN I LOOK TO THEM FOR SOURCES OF WHAT WHERE ELSE CAN WE PULL? WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD WE PULL FROM TO COVER THOSE SHORTAGES? AND LIKE, LIKE KEVIN SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TEND TO LOOK WITHIN ONE'S BUDGET. SO IF THERE'S SAVINGS IN ANY OF YOU, THE OTHER MAYOR AND COUNCIL LINE ITEMS, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD GO. I DON'T KNOW IF IF ROSS WANTS TO FURTHER ELABORATE OR WE'VE SAID IT ENOUGH, WE'VE SAID IT, WE'VE SAID WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID, BUT WE CAN GET BACK WITH A LINE ITEM OF EVERYTHING AND SEND THAT VIA EMAIL. AND WE MAYBE COULD EVEN SEND THAT FOR TOMORROW NIGHT'S DISCUSSION IF YOU WANT IT, MAYOR. SURE. WHY NOT? MAYOR? VICE MAYOR. GOOD MAYOR. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, MR. LARUSSO? I GOT ONE MORE THING. SURE. AND THEN YOU CAN CAP IT OFF. OKAY. SEEING WHAT I SEE, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW. I HAVEN'T TRAVELED THIS YEAR. I HAVEN'T TRAVELED IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS, AND I PUT IN FOR TRAVEL AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CONFERENCE DOWN IN HOLLYWOOD. I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW THAT CONFERENCE. I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW THAT BECAUSE WE'RE OVER BUDGET. AND AND IT DOES NOT IT DOES NOT SERVE A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR ME TO GO BECAUSE I TERM OUT IN NOVEMBER. SO I WANTED TO GO TO BE WITH MY BUDDIES. I WANTED TO GO AND, YOU KNOW, BE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE SERVED WITH FOR SO MANY YEARS TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS. AND MAYBE I CAN ADD VALUE AFTER NOVEMBER, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE SELFISH ON MY PART. SO I AM PULLING MY NAME. KEVIN.

UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. I WILL NOT BE TRAVELING DOWN TO HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA, TO THE DIPLOMAT HOTEL ON IN WHAT IS IT? AUGUST. AUGUST? YEAH, RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, MISS.

MISS KENNEDY. AND I THINK THAT'S A SHAME, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE CONVERSATION YOU CAN BRING TO THE TABLE FOR THE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN IS VERY VALUABLE. SO I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD RECONSIDER THAT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT TRAVELED FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS. SO YOU SHOULD NOT BE NOT GOING BECAUSE OF OTHER TRAVEL THAT HAS HAPPENED AND GOTTEN US INTO. I APPRECIATE THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT MORE THAN YOU KNOW. YEAH.

WITH THAT, I'M OKAY WITH MAKING A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE THREE, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON THE BACK END WITH SOME OF THIS BUDGET. AND I'LL AND I'LL. YEAH.

GO AHEAD. WELL, I JUST WANT TO I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEATING AROUND THE BUSH ON SOMETHING AND I'M GOING TO BE THE BAD GUY ON IT. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS, MR. LARUSSO, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO AT YOUR LAST MEETING FOR YOUR LIKE YOUR FOR YOUR LAST ANNUAL MEETING ON THIS. IT'S. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU FEEL THAT WAY, BUT ON THE SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE IS TWO NAMES THAT HAVE TAKEN UP 65% OF ALL THE REVENUE FOR ALL OF THIS. IT'S MRS. HANLEY AND MR. SMITH, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS WHY WE'RE IN THIS PREDICAMENT, IS THAT I'VE BEEN THE GUY WHO'S BEEN VOTING NO ON A LOT OF THIS STUFF, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO KEEP US IN THE WINGS ON IT. AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO WE'RE LOOKING LIKE WE'RE GOING OVER BUDGET, WHICH WE ARE IN ORDER TO GO ON THESE THESE TRIPS. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S I'M NOT GOING I'M NOT GOING THERE. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. WAIT A MINUTE. WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING IT UP LIKE THAT AND YOU'RE SAYING, I'VE TRAVELED UP THERE, I'VE WE HAVING MEETINGS, MA'AM, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER, BY THE WAY, MA'AM. YEAH. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

YOU ARE TOO DAMN BAD RIGHT NOW. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT TRAVELING WITH TRAVELING AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO AT ME. HEY, STOP! HEY, LISTEN, NUMBER ONE, MR. NEWMAN, YOU WRAP UP, AND THEN, MR. HANLEY, YOU CAN RESPOND. MY, MY POINT IS THAT, I THINK, WOULD BE VERY GRACIOUS IF MISS HANLEY AND MR. SMITH FORGO THEIR TRIP DOWN TO THE THE. AND PAID THEIR OWN WAY BECAUSE I PAID MY OWN WAY TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE. YOU GUYS CAN PAY YOUR OWN WAY TO GO TO THIS THING, SO MR. LARUSSO CAN HAVE THE DIGNITY AND HONOR TO GO TO THIS EVENT DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE ONE FOR SOUTH FLORIDA THAT MIGHT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO RECOUP THOSE COSTS BY PAYING YOUR OWN WAY TO GO TO THE MELBOURNE ONE, WHICH IS CHEAPER. BUT I JUST THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO, SINCE IT'S HIS LAST TIME ON COUNCIL, THE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO TO DC AND WE WERE WORKING ON WITH THE SENATORS WE'RE STILL HAVING GOING IN THERE TRYING TO GET MONEY. WE'VE HAD OPEN DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T KNOW HOW JENNY, HOW DO I SAY THIS, THAT WHAT WE WENT THROUGH TODAY, WE HAD LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I DON'T THINK GOING IN SPENDING. YEAH, MAYBE IT IS $1,000, BUT IF WE CAN GET $20 MILLION, I THINK IT'S WELL SPENT MONEY FOR GRANTS OPENING UP THE DOORS TO OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR OUR WATER SYSTEMS BEFORE BY GOING

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TO THE CONFERENCE. WELL, I MEAN, HE'S SAYING, WELL, GOING I WAS OUT OF ORDER. YEAH. GOING IN THERE AND SAYING THAT I TRAVELED AND I SPENT MONEY ON THERE. I'M STILL WORKING GOING IN THERE FROM TELEHEALTH. I. MA'AM. MA'AM. MA'AM, MA'AM. COUNCIL APPROVED THAT. I MEAN, BUT HE JUST WAIT A MINUTE BECAUSE HE JUST SAID, WELL, SHE'S DOING ALL THIS TRAVELING.

WELL, NO, YOU YOU THE COUNCIL APPROVED YOU TO GO AND YOU WENT TO TO UP TO D.C. I MEAN, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S EITHER THIS IS A YES OR NO.

THIS IS NOT A FINGER POINTING ON WHO WENT WHERE. THE FACT IS, AND I WILL TELL YOU, RUNNING THIS DAIS AS MAYOR AND I AM THE MAYOR, I EXPECT MY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE OUT ON THEIR OWN DOING REPRESENTING THE CITY. IT'S NOT MY JOB TO GO TO EVERY EVENT AND DICTATE EVERYTHING.

SO EVERYBODY HAS AN EQUAL VOTE LIKE I DO EVERYBODY, AND I EXPECT MY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HOLD THEIR OWN AREAS AND TO BE OUT THERE AND GOING TO THESE EVENTS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET'S TOUGH. SO THAT'S INCLUDING YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU. I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE AND YOU ARE I'M ON THE FAST, FAST TASK FORCE, WHICH IS A FEDERAL ACTION TASK FORCE. SO NOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT, MR. NEWMAN. NO, I SAID THAT YOU SHOULD FORGO THIS TRIP SO THAT MR. LARUSSO CAN HAVE THE DIGNITY OF GOING TO THE THING. I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN HONEST THING OKAY, GOOD., YOU HAD SOMETHING? NO. SO THE POINT THAT YOU MADE, I, I APPRECIATE IT AND I, I THINK THAT IN MY DEFENSE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WE ATTEND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS, BUT AS TPO THE MEETINGS THAT WE'RE AT ON SATURDAY WITH NEIGHBORHOODS. SO ALONG WITH WHAT THE MAYOR IS STATING, I, I TAKE IT AS A PART OF THE MISSION TO REPRESENT THE CITY AND REPRESENT THE CITY AS WELL AS I CAN. I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOUR QUESTIONING AT THIS POINT, BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT I PUT THAT OUT. SO IN ADDITION TO WHAT MISS MISS HANLEY TALKED ABOUT WITH FAST, I MEAN, EVERY MEETING THAT THAT I'M GOING TO ATTEND, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDING VALUE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE BRINGING INFORMATION BACK. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF PROVIDING WHAT RESULTS WE'RE GETTING BACK FROM EITHER ATTENDANCE OR FROM ENGAGEMENT OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S MY POINT. MR. SMITH, WILL YOU PAY FOR YOUR HOLD ON, HOLD UP, HOLD UP. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING REAL QUICK? SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THIS PAPER, KEVIN, THAT YOU'VE SUPPLIED, IS THAT OUR FISCAL YEAR 26 ADOPTED TRAINING AND EDUCATION, INCLUDING TRANSACTIONS PENDING YET NOT YET TO POST IS OUR BUDGET IS TEN GRAND? YES, SIR.

CORRECT. FOR FOR TRAVEL AND AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN TRAVEL, RIGHT. TRAVEL AND TRANSPORTATION AND ATTENDANCE.

THE THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GO TO A CONFERENCE. WE GOT TO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CHAMBER CONFERENCE. IS THAT CORRECT? PARTIALLY, YES, BECAUSE SOME EVENTS ARE CHARGED TO A TO THE TRAVEL PROGRAM THAT I SEE HERE IS ONLY FOR TRAVEL. IT'S. OR IS IT ALSO INCLUDING THE THE PARTICIPATION IN THE THE COST TO GO TO THIS PARTICULAR WHATEVER EVENT IT IS, THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION BUDGET IS TYPICALLY RESERVED FOR CONFERENCES, EDUCATION, THE OVERNIGHT STAYS THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. SO MY. I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE. IS THAT THAT TEN GRAND IS FOR REGISTRATION PLUS TRAVEL? YES, SIR. PLUS YES. ACCOMMODATIONS. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN WE HIT THAT TEN GRAND, WHICH WE OBVIOUSLY ARE GOING TO DO NOW, WE'RE INTO TWO, TWO GRAND OVER THE OVER OVER THE TOP. AND THAT'S WITHOUT. IS THAT ALSO INCORPORATING THE AUGUST TRIP TO THE IT IS CONFERENCE? IT IS IT'S BASED ON THE ESTIMATES THAT YOU ALL SIGNED FOR THE TRAVEL PAPERWORK WHEN WHEN WE PREPARE THOSE. OKAY, THERE'S AN ESTIMATED COST. AND THEN THERE'S AN ACTUAL COST AFTER THE EVENT, WHICH IS BASED ON YOUR MILEAGE MEALS. THAT IS, THAT'S FACTORING IN THE, THE, THE FOUR OF YOU ATTENDING AT THE ESTIMATED COST THAT WE, WE KNOW TODAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

GIVES ME A LOT OF INFORMATION. THAT'S FOR THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE, THOUGH NOT THE CHAMBER. CORRECT. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAINING AND EDUCATION BUDGET, THE $10,000, THE OVERAGE INCLUDES THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE FOUR OF YOU GO AND EXPEND FUNDS FOR THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SPLIT THE, YOU KNOW, SPLIT THE HAIR IN THE MIDDLE HERE. I MEAN, I WANT TO KNOW BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR? WHAT DO WE GET? HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S SIMPLE MATH. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY COMING OUT OF THIS BUDGET, COMING OUT OF THAT LINE ITEM, THIS THING AND THE OTHER, BECAUSE IT'S ALL THE SAME DARN MONEY. SURE. YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TOMORROW NIGHT. I'D LIKE TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, WHAT WE'RE SPENDING, HOW WE'RE SPENDING IT, AND WHERE

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WE'RE SPENDING IT. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN SMITH AND MISS HANLEY. WOULD YOU GUYS FOREGO ONE TRIP FOR MR. LUCIO TO GO? SO IT'S A NO. HE CAN GO. WE HAVE THE MONEY THERE. OKAY, MR. SMITH. I THINK. I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR EVERYONE. OKAY. WELL, THEN THAT'S A NO. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD. OUR STAFF IS GOING TO SEND US SEND THAT OUT TO US. APPRECIATE THAT. YOU MADE A MOTION, MA'AM. YOU MADE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION FOR THIS ITEM EIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY NAYS? NAY. AND I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. SO

[9. Ordinance No. 2026-27 (AV2026-0003): (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance to abandon and vacate a public alley right-of-way located at 1710 Stockton Street. (First Reading - 7/14/2026)]

WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. IT'S GOING TO BE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-27. MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF THE UNIMPROVED, TEN FOOT WIDE PUBLIC ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY THAT ABUTS THE WEST LOT LINE OF 1710 STOCKTON STREET, MAKING FINDINGS PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORTING ON THIS IS MR. EARNEST. OKAY. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE CITING ON SECOND READING OF THIS ITEM, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD TO IT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. EARNEST? NO. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM, MEANING DISCLOSURES. I KNOW NO DISCLOSURES. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE NO SIGN UP SHEET. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. GO AHEAD, SIR. MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-27. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MISS BASSETT WILL ROLL CALL. VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. MR. GAS I COUNCIL MEMBER. LARUSSO. SURE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. NEWMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BASSETT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LEE. AYE. VICE MAYOR. KENNEDY. AYE. MAYOR ALFREY AND I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO

[10. Ordinance No. 2026-28 (AV2026-0005): (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance to abandon and vacate a 12-foot-wide unimproved public alley right-of-way that runs through the applicant’s property located at 22 E. New Haven Avenue. (First Reading - 7/14/2026)]

ITEM NUMBER TEN. ORDER 2020 628, MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A 121 FOOT LONG PORTION OF THE 12 FOOT WIDE, UNIMPROVED PUBLIC ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY THAT RUNS THROUGH 22 EAST NEW HAVEN AVENUE, MAKING FINDINGS PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORT ON. THIS IS ALSO. MR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THIS ITEM, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM. ANY DISCLOSURES I NOTE NO DISCLOSURES. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. NO SIGN UP SHEETS.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. GOOD. SIR. APPROVAL MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-28. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. NEWMAN, SECOND BY MISS BASSETT, ITEM TEN. ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LARUSSO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. NEWMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BASSETT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. HANLEY. AYE. VICE MAYOR. KENNEDY. AYE. MAYOR ALFRED, I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION

[11. Ordinance No. 2026-29 (AV2025-0007): (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance vacating a portion of the 15-foot-wide public utility easement that encompasses the building on the parcel with conditions at 1000 N. Wickham Road. (First Reading - 7/14/2026)]

PASSES. THEN WE'RE. NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11. THIS IS GOING TO BE ORDINANCE 2020 629. MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF THE 15 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THAT ENCOMPASSES THE BUILDING LOCATED AT 1000 NORTH WICKHAM ROAD, MAKING FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. ALL RIGHT. REPORTING ON THIS WITH ALL ALSO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THIS ITEM, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD TO IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM. ANY DISCLOSURE? I NOTE NO DISCLOSURES. THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE NO SIGN UP SHEETS. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. MR. NEWMAN, YOUR FIRST MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-29. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. NEWMAN. SECOND BY MR. LARUSSO. ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LARUSSO.

AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. NEWMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BASSETT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. AYE. VICE MAYOR. KENNEDY. AYE. MAYOR ALFREY AND I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. WE'RE MOVING ON TO NEW, NEW BUSINESS. GOING TO BE ITEM 12 REPORTING ON THIS IS MR. EARNEST AGAIN. ALL RIGHT.

[12. Contract award for Crane Creek Reserve Golf Course - Electrical Improvements, Project No. 10621, Accurate Power & Technology, Inc., Eustis, FL - $142,130.]

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARD TO ACCURATE POWER AND TECHNOLOGY.

EUSTIS, FLORIDA FOR THE CRANE CREEK RESERVE GOLF COURSE. ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS IN 2025, THE CRANE CREEK GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION IMPROVEMENTS WERE COMPLETED FOLLOWING A COMPREHENSIVE UPGRADE TO THE GOLF COURSE, GREENS AND IRRIGATION PUMP SYSTEM. AS PART OF THE PROJECT, THREE NEW IRRIGATION PUMPS WERE INSTALLED. DURING COORDINATION WITH FPL,

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IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE EXISTING ELECTRICAL SERVICE WAS INSUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT THE NEW PUMPS REQUIRING THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMER. FPL INSTALLED RECENTLY INSTALLED THE NEW TRANSFORMER AND SERVICE PAD IN JULY OF THIS YEAR. WITH COMPLETION OF FPL'S WORK, THE CITY'S ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR WILL INSTALL THE CUSTOMER SIDE SERVICE ELECTRICAL SERVICE FROM THE NEW TRANSFORMER TO THE IRRIGATION PUMPS IRRIGATION PUMP HOUSE. THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES DISCONNECTING, REMOVING THE EXISTING ELECTRICAL SERVICE EQUIPMENT, AND OBSOLETE PUMP CONTROL EQUIPMENT, INSTALLING NEW PUMP CONTROL PANELS, AND CONNECTING THE NEW ELECTRICAL SERVICE FROM THE FPL TRANSFORMER TO THE IRRIGATION PUMP HOUSE. THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES INSTALLATION OF A GENERATOR CONNECTION TO ALLOW FOR CONTINUED OPERATION OF THE IRRIGATION PUMPS DURING FUTURE UTILITY OUTAGES. THAT WOULD RUN LONG ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD ENDANGER THE CONDITION OF THE COURSE. PROJECT NUMBER 10621 IS ADEQUATELY FUNDED AND WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AWARD TO ACCURATE POWER AND TECHNOLOGY INCORPORATED. EUSTIS, FLORIDA FOR THE CRANE CREEK RESERVE GOLF COURSE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT NUMBER 10621 IN THE AMOUNT OF $142,130.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. EARNEST? I GOT ONE. GO AHEAD, SIR. THANK YOU. SO ACCURATE.

POWER AND TECHNOLOGY OUT OF EUSTIS, FLORIDA. EVEN WITH THE BID, LOCAL WITH EVERYBODY ELSE IS HERE. O'GALLEY IN MELBOURNE. O'GALLEY ELECTRIC COMPANY. I GUESS THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THAT 5% STILL DIDN'T MATCH IT. I I'M NOT DOING THE MATH IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT FROM YOU. NO, SIR. THE O'GALLEY ELECTRIC. THEIR BID WAS AROUND $230,000. ACCURATE POWER PROVIDED A BID OF 142,130. SO THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE. I JUST LIKE TO TRY AND KEEP THE JOBS LOCAL. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, THAT SEEMS TO BE LIKE A VERY BIG DISCREPANCY. VERY BIG CHUNK IS CAN THEY DO THE WORK AT THAT PRICE OR ARE WE GOING TO GET A BILL LATER? YES, MA'AM. WE DID CHECK THE REFERENCES, AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PERFORM THE WORK FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THEY HAVE BID. WE WILL BE HOLDING THEM TO THAT AMOUNT AS FAR AS THE DISCREPANCY OR DISCREPANCY, BUT THE RANGE OF BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED, IT WAS FAIRLY WELL SPREAD THROUGH THE FIVE BIDS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE CITY, AND THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT THAT CAUSED SUCH A SPREAD, AVAILABILITY OF THEIR CREWS.

THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR MAY HAVE A BETTER PRICING ARRANGEMENT FOR THE EQUIPMENT.

A LOT OF THE CONTROL PANELS AND THE FEATURES THAT WE'RE INSTALLING ARE HIGH GRADE STAINLESS STEEL. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THAT PRODUCT A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN OTHER CONTRACTORS. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT COULD HAVE AFFECTED HOW THOSE CONTRACTORS PROVIDED THEIR PRICES TO THE CITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SIR, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF VICE MAYOR. IS THAT OUR IS THIS BUILT IN FOR CHANGE? ORDERS CHANGE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WE DID WITH THE POLICE STATION, RIGHT? YEAH. POLICE CENTER. I'M SORRY. CHANGE ORDER. CHANGE ORDER CHANGE ORDER CHANGE ORDER. SO ARE THEY COMING IN AT 142? AND THEN WE HAVE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING BACK TO US WHAT WE NEED A CHANGE ORDER FOR 20 GRAND. WE NEED ANOTHER CHANGE ORDER FOR TEN. IS THAT HOW THIS COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN? NO SIR. WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY CHANGES. THE SCOPE OF WORK INVOLVED WITH THIS CONTRACT IS SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN WHAT WE DID WITH THE. THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M NOT COMPARING. ALL I'M DOING IS I'M NOT SAYING APPLE AND ORANGE COMPLETELY, BUT BUT ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT CAN THEY COME BACK FOR CHANGE ORDERS FOR ANOTHER TEN, ANOTHER FIVE, ANOTHER EIGHT, THAT KIND OF THING. AND I ONLY USE THE POLICE STATION AS A AS A REFERENCE, NOT AS A, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S A $40 MILLION PROJECT. AND THIS IS A 140 000 AT THIS POINT IN THIS PROJECT. THIS IS THE FINAL WORK THAT'S REALLY BEING DONE. THE PUMPS HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED. THE MAJOR SCOPE OF WORK INVOLVED WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE IRRIGATION HAS REALLY BEEN COMPLETED. WE'RE FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THE ELECTRICAL PLANS AND DESIGN THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR THE PUMP SETUP IS COMPLETE AND ACCURATE ENOUGH THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY CHANGE ORDERS. MOST OF ALL, THE WORK IS ABOVE GROUND AND IT'S IN THE OPEN, SO WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY TYPE OF CHANGES THAT WOULD BE OCCUR FROM, YOU KNOW, FINDING AN UNDERGROUND PIPE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WITH 100% CERTAINTY THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A CHANGE ORDER.