[1. Invocation - Council Member Mark LaRusso]
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          AUGUST 25TH, 2026 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, LET ME REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AND SUBMIT IT TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED YOU, THE MICROPHONE ON THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT, AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR YOUR NAME AND CITY. BE MINDFUL OF THE TIMER ON THE LIKELIHOOD AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS FOR YOUR SPEAKING TIME ENDS. THE TIME LIMIT ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK. FORMS AND APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE OF PERSON OF THE LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME, AS WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CREATE A RECORD FOR THE COUNCIL. ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL AND PERTINENT REMARKS BECOMES VOICELESS WHILE ADDRESSING CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION. IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND TONIGHT. INVOCATION BE GIVEN BY PASTOR AARON HALEY FROM CHURCH ON THE ROCK. PASTOR. THANK YOU SIR. THE FOLLOWING PRAYERS ARE FROM THE BIBLE, STARTING WITH THE MOST FAMOUS. OUR FATHER, WHICH ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME. THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE IN EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. 
          GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD. AND FORGIVE US OUR DEBTS, AS WE FORGIVE OUR DEBTORS. AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL. FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, AND THE POWER, AND THE GLORY FOREVER. AMEN. AND CITY COUNCIL, CITIZENS OF MELBOURNE, I DO NOT CEASE TO GIVE THANKS FOR YOU, REMEMBERING YOU IN MY PRAYERS, THAT THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, MAY GIVE YOU THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM AND OF REVELATION IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM HAVING THE EYES OF OUR HEARTS ENLIGHTENED, THAT YOU MAY KNOW WHAT IS THE HOPE TO WHICH HE HAS CALLED YOU? WHAT ARE THE RICHES OF HIS GLORIOUS INHERITANCE IN THE SAINTS, AND WHAT IS THE IMMEASURABLE GREATNESS OF HIS POWER TOWARD US WHO BELIEVE, ACCORDING TO THE WORKING OF HIS GREAT MIGHT, THAT HE WORKED IN CHRIST WHEN HE RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD AND SEATED HIM AT HIS RIGHT HAND IN HEAVENLY PLACES. AND LORD, THANK YOU THAT THE APOSTLE PAUL SAYS THIS TO TIMOTHY. FIRST OF ALL. THEN, I URGE THAT SUPPLICATIONS, PRAYERS, INTERCESSIONS, AND THANKSGIVING BE MADE FOR ALL PEOPLE, FOR KINGS AND ALL WHO ARE IN HIGH POSITIONS, THAT WE MAY LEAD A PEACEFUL AND QUIET LIFE, GODLY AND DIGNIFIED IN EVERY WAY. SO I PRAY, PEACE AND WISDOM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND FOR THE MAYOR AND FOR US CITIZENS. WE CAN BE ENCOURAGED, LIKE THE JEWS WHO WERE IN EXILE IN BABYLON WHEN JEREMIAH SPOKE THIS TO THEM, BUT SEEK THE WELFARE OF THE CITY WHERE I HAVE SENT YOU INTO EXILE, AND PRAY TO THE LORD ON ITS BEHALF. FOR IN ITS WELFARE YOU WILL FIND YOUR WELFARE. MAY IT BE, LORD, MAKE MELBOURNE PROSPER, MAKE ITS PEOPLE PROSPER AND GIVE US WISDOM TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES WE ARE DEALING WITH TONIGHT. TO CHRIST BE THE GLORY. AMEN, AMEN. THANK YOU PASTOR. 
          PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          ROLL CALL. MR. MCEWEN. OR JUSTICE COUNCIL MEMBER NEWMAN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BASSETT HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. HANLEY HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER LARUSSO 
          [4. Proclamations and Presentations]
PRESENT. VICE MAYOR KENNEDY HERE. MAYOR ALFREY. AND I'M HERE. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR PROCLAMATION, PROCLAMATION, PRESENTATION. AND I HAVE A COUPLE. JEANETTE JINLING ON. 
          COME ON DOWN. HOW YOU DOING? THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE'RE GOING TO START OUT TONIGHT WITH SEPTEMBER 2026 PROCLAIMING IT AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH. HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION IS FROM THE SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION. 
          JEANETTE. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THIS PROCLAMATION. CITY OF MELBOURNE. 
          WHEREAS MANY HEALTH OFFICIALS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE NATION STATE AND LOCALLY RECOGNIZED THAT MENTAL ILLNESS IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE OF CONCERN, PARTICULARLY AMONG OUR YOUTH. AND WHEREAS WE REALIZE THAT OUR TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES REQUIRES MORE OPEN AND HONEST DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND. WHEREAS, ONE MAJOR HURDLE REMOVING THE STIGMA ATTACHED TO MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND DISCUSSION. AND. WHEREAS INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND MANY OTHERS RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF EMOTIONAL HEALTH AND. WHEREAS, THROUGH AWARENESS OF. THIS MONTH, THE CITY OF 
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MELBOURNE SEEKS TO ENCOURAGE ALL. TO RECOGNIZE THAT SUICIDE IS A PREVENTABLE PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM AND SUICIDE PREVENTION MUST BE A PRIORITY. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE SUPPORTS THE EFFORTS OF THE SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION, WHO REMAIN DEDICATED TO SAVING LIVES AND BRINGING AWARENESS AND HOPE TO THOSE AFFECTED BY SUICIDE. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I. PAUL ALFREY, MAYOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, THE GREATEST CITY IN THE NATION, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2026 AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND WILL ENCOURAGE THOSE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES TO SEEK THE HELP OF A FAMILY MEMBER, FRIEND, COLLEAGUE AND OR LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SYSTEM IN THEIR TIME OF NEED. WHEN IT'S MY HAND, THE SEAL OF THIS 25TH DAY OF AUGUST 2026. PAUL ALFREY MAYOR. 
          SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE MICROPHONE IF YOU'LL SAY A FEW WORDS. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THIS ACTION THIS EVENING IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE BREVARD COUNTY IS ONLY THE ONLY COUNTY IN FLORIDA WHO ALL CITIES AND GOVERNING BODIES SUPPORT SUICIDE PREVENTION THROUGH PROCLAMATIONS AND RESOLUTIONS. THAT'S HUGE. THANK YOU. IT'S IMPORTANT ON THE SPACE COAST BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, OUR NUMBERS ARE HIGHER THAN A LOT OF COUNTIES IN FLORIDA, 17 OUT OF EVERY 100,000 PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY DIE BY SUICIDE. WE DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S HIGHER, BUT WE AT THE SPACE COAST AND OUR PARTNERS WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO WORK TO PREVENT THAT. AND THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. IN 2000, THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN BY THE NAME OF KEVIN HINES, WHO JUMPED FROM THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE AND SURVIVED. WHEN HE TELLS HIS STORY, HE TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THAT DAY BEFORE HE JUMPED, HE WAS ON THE BRIDGE, WALKING BACK AND FORTH CRYING, EMOTIONALLY DISTRESSED, AND NOT ONE PERSON STOPPED AND ASKED HIM IF HE WAS OKAY. IT'S SIMPLE AS THAT. ASK SOMEONE IF THEY'RE OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL TAKE A. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          ARE YOU SURE WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE THIS ONE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO START OUT. OKAY. 
          OH, I KNOW MR. BLAU. BRAD BLAU, HOW YOU DOING, MY FRIEND? HOW YOU BEEN, MAN? GOOD SEEING YOU. 
          OH, HELL YEAH. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE MIC TO START OUT OKAY. I'M GONNA HOLD YOUR GIFT CARD. OH, SO TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO HONOR LIEUTENANT BRAD BLOUNT'S 20 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. SO LIEUTENANT BRAD BLAU BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN JULY OF 2006. DURING HIS 20 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, HE SERVED IN A VARIETY OF ASSIGNMENTS, INCLUDING ROAD PATROL, STREET CRIMES AND THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS UNIT. IN JANUARY OF 2016, BRAD WAS PROMOTED TO THE RANK OF SERGEANT. THROUGH HIS TENURE AS A SUPERVISOR, HE SERVED AS ROAD PATROL SERGEANT, TRAINING SERGEANT AND FIELD TRAINING SERGEANT. DURING THIS TIME, HE PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN RECRUITING, HIRING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT'S NEWEST OFFICERS, ASSISTING WITH THE HIRING OF MORE THAN 60 POLICE OFFICERS. THEN, IN OCTOBER OF 2021, BRAD WAS PROMOTED TO THE RANK OF LIEUTENANT. HE SERVED AS PATROL WATCH COMMANDER AND CURRENTLY SERVES IN THE SUPPORT SERVICES DIVISION, WHERE HE OVERSEES A VARIETY OF TRAINING, TECHNOLOGY AND SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT'S MISSION AND OPERATIONAL READINESS. IN ADDITION TO A SUPERVISORY RESPONSIBILITIES, BRAD HAS SERVED AS THE DEFENSE TACTICS INSTRUCTOR FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS AND HAS BEEN THE DEPARTMENT'S LEAD MEDICAL INSTRUCTOR FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. BRAD IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THESE ROLES AND TAKES PRIDE IN MAKING SURE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAYS CURRENT WITH MODERN TRAINING PRACTICES. HE TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO BRING SCENARIO BASED DEFENSIVE TACTICS AND TACTICAL MEDICAL TRAINING TO THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH ARE NOW WIDELY ENCOURAGED NATIONWIDE. SO DURING HIS CAREER, HE HAS EARNED THE FOLLOWING AWARD AWARDS FIVE CERTIFICATES OF COMMENDATION, THREE MERITORIOUS PERFORMANCE AWARDS, THREE UNIT MERITORIOUS PERFORMANCE BARS, THREE UNIT CITATION BARS, ONE EXCEPTIONAL DUTY BAR AND MORE THAN NINE LETTERS OF APPRECIATION AND APPLAUSE AWARDS. SO OUTSIDE OF WORK, BRAD ENJOYS AND I THINK THIS ONE IS FUNNY. YOU ENJOY RENOVATING YOUR HOME. I'M NOT SURE MANY PEOPLE CAN SAY THAT, BUT THAT HAS BEEN IN THE FAMILY SINCE THE 1960S, COACHING YOUTH SPORTS, ATTENDING UCF FOOTBALL GAMES WITH HIS DAD. MOST OF ALL, 
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HE ENJOYS TRAVELING AND SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FIANCÉE PRISCILLA, AND THEIR CHILDREN, JACK, ELISE, AND AZALEA. BRAD IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE THE CITY AND IS READY TO SERVE IN ANY ROLE THAT IS NEEDED. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR BRAD'S 20 YEARS OF EXEMPLARY SERVICE, AND ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE HIM AS LIEUTENANT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ON A PERSONAL NOTE, BRAD MYSTERIOUSLY SEEMED TO UNDERSTAND THE CITY MANAGER'S NEED FOR DIET MOUNTAIN DEW DURING THE EOC AND REALLY CAME THROUGH IN A PINCH, AND I WAS ABLE TO STAY UP ALL NIGHT AFTER THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BUT MORE MORE THAN JUST THAT ONE SIMPLE INCIDENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. YES. AND YEAH, I'M GOING TO SAY A QUICK WORD AND I WANT TO KEEP IT BRIEF. I REMEMBER I MET BRAD STARTED HE LOOKED TEN. NOW HE LOOKS 20. SO AMAZING GUY. I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF THE BEST ACTUALLY LIEUTENANTS NOW THAT WE HAVE I'VE WATCHED YOU, YOU KNOW, SERVE WITH DISTINCTION. AND YOU GOT A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY. SO 20 MORE YEARS. BRAD. OKAY, LET'S DO IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOUR CHEERING SECTION? OH, YES. SO I HAVE EVERYBODY THAT CAME. TODAY IS MY FUTURE FATHER IN LAW, MANUEL. MY PARENTS GREG AND TAMMY, MY FIANCE PRISCILLA, MY YOUNGEST AZALEA, MY NIECE LUCY AND EMMA, MY SON JACK, MY SISTER BRANDY, HER HUSBAND JARED, MY BROTHER IN LAW, AND GARRETT. SO MY NEPHEW GARRETT. OH YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. Y'ALL COME ON UP. THE FAMILY DO ONE OF THE FAMILY. AND THEN AFTERWARDS. OKAY. 
          READY? ONE. TWO. THREE. THANK YOU. OH, WAIT. WE HAVE ONE MORE. DON'T WE HAVE ONE MORE? WE DO HAVE ONE MORE. BUT SHE'S NOT HERE YET. SHE'S ABOUT 5 TO 10 MINUTES. YOU MAY REPEAT THIS WHEN YOU WANT THE VERY BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. WHAT THE HELL? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMITTED TO BETTER QUALITY, BETTER QUALITY AND BETTER SERVICE. FROM LITTLE MARBLE STEAKS TO GARDEN FRESH PRODUCE, WE MAKE GROCERY SHOPPING AN EXPERIENCE YOU'LL ENJOY. 
          MILAM'S MARKET'S EXPERIENCE. THE DIFFERENCE? VISIT ONE OF OUR SIX LOCATIONS IN SOUTH FLORIDA AT MARKETS.COM. HEY, WE GOT TO GET READY FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS MISLEADING. LOCAL TEN S JANINE STANDWOOD IS IN THE NEWSROOM WITH THE DETAILS. JANINE. AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS AMENDMENT WILL STAY ON THE BALLOT, JUST NOT HOW IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW. AND AT LEAST ONE SOUTH FLORIDA SHERIFF TELLS US HE THINKS NECESSARY. LAW ENFORCEMENT SAY THEY STILL HAVE CONCERNS. THE SALES PITCH FOR AMENDMENT THREE TO ELIMINATE PROPERTY TAXES FOR SOME HOMEOWNERS WILL GET A REWRITE. WAS THAT YOURS? YEAH, I'M LOOKING FOR. I CAN'T GET IT TURNED OFF NOW. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S VERY TRUE. THAT'S VERY. THANK YOU. IS IT A VIDEO? I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS IT WAS NOT WHAT I WAS LOOKING. I'M LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY'S NAME AND I JUST CAN'T. WELL. OKAY. YEAH, SORRY I CAN. WE HAVE ONE MORE. PRESENTATION BUT WE'LL DO IS 
          [5. Approval of Minutes - August 11, 2026 Regular Meeting]
MOVE REAL QUICK TO NUMBER FIVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. AUGUST 11TH, 2026 COUNCIL MEETING. 
          MAYOR, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 11TH, 2026. REGULAR MEETING. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, BY VICE MAYOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I 
          [6. City Manager's Report]
VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES MOVED. ITEM NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, MISS LAMB. YES. IN ADDITION TO THE WRITTEN REPORT, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WERE ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING. SO AT THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE ASKED ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE MIDTOWN ACTIVITY CENTER STUDY. AND SO A WORK ORDER HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE ASSESSMENT STUDY. THE MIDTOWN ACTIVITY CENTER IS DEFINED WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND INCLUDES 
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AN AREA THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHOW ON THE SCREEN. BUT AS THEY'RE DOING THAT, I'LL EXPLAIN. THE SCOPE INCLUDES AN ASSESSMENT OF THE LAND USE PATTERNS, POLICY FRAMEWORK DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, DEVELOPMENT TRENDS, AND OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA, WITH THE GOAL OF DEVELOPING PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ZONING REGULATIONS. SO THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC WORKS, NOT A WORKSHOP. 
          THERE'LL BE NOTIFICATION AND AND PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS DURING THIS SEVEN MONTH STUDY. 
          SO SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH YOU WITH THE FINDINGS OF THAT STUDY AND POSSIBLE CODE CHANGES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, AT THE LAST MEETING, I WAS ASKED ABOUT THE MAYFAIR CLEARING. AND I HAVE PHOTOS OF THAT TOO. AND THE MAYFAIR CLEARING FOR THE SECTION OF MAYFAIR THAT IS EAST OF THE CANAL. THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PERMITS AND THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD IN ACCORDANCE TO APPROVED CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE SECTION THAT IS WEST OF THE CANAL THAT RUNS THROUGH ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY. WE DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE PERMITS IN PLACE, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT TO SITE THEM THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. WE DO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CLEARING THAT WENT ON WAS COVERED UNDER THEIR NPDES PERMIT, WHICH NATIONAL POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM, I BELIEVE IS WHAT THAT STANDS FOR. I SHOULD KNOW THAT. AND BUT IT IS COVERED UNDER THAT. SO THEY ARE MEETING THE FRAMEWORK OF STANDARDS FOR EROSION AND SEDIMENTATION PERMITS. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CITY OF MELBOURNE'S PERMIT. AND SO WE WILL WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET THEIR PERMIT. I KNOW THEY DID APPLY FOR A LAND ALTERATION PERMIT, BUT THEY DID NOT. AND THAT IS ALSO TO ADD ADDITIONAL FILL ON THE ON THE SITE. BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THAT PERMIT YET. SO I THINK THAT WHAT WAS ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING WAS COULD STAFF POSSIBLY RECOMMEND ANY CODE CHANGES THAT COULD BE DONE FOR LAND ALTERATION? THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF COULD CONSIDER. WE'RE NOT SURE TO WHAT EXTREME. OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY THEIR PERMIT FEES, EVEN IF IT IS AFTER THE FACT, AND THEY WILL. AND YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE POSSIBLE FINES THROUGH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT SECTION. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THOSE TWO, IF YOU KNOW, WELCOME TO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT POSSIBLE CHANGES. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. I HAVE ONE HERE BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MAYFAIR. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THE WEST SIDE EVENTUALLY DOING MAJOR. I'M SORRY. I'M YEAH. 
          DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WE DON'T WANT THEM COMING IN AND DOING THIS AGAIN. THIS IS THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A MOONSCAPE TYPE OF SITUATION COMING IN FROM SOUTH FLORIDA AND THINKING THAT THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. SO WHAT CAN WE DO? SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS GOING FORWARD TO ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. WHAT CAN WE DO? WE HAVE TOUCHED THIS THE CLEARING SECTION OF CODE. I THINK TWICE RECENTLY, WE COULD GO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER AREAS WE COULD ADD AND INCLUDE THAT THEY NEED THEIR LAND ALTERATION PERMITS IN PLACE, THEIR STORMWATER IN PLACE, AND THAT IT HAS TO BE SEEDED AND MULCHED WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THAT THEY CAN'T GO MORE THAN 30 DAYS WITHOUT ACTIVITY ON THE SITE BEFORE THAT HAPPENS. TO HELP HELP WITH THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL. BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING IN REGARDS TO TREES AND SAVING TREES, I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THAT WHEN WE MADE THOSE PREVIOUS CHANGES, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THIS MOONSCAPE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE WANTED TO SEE THE MOON SCAPING AT THAT TIME. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL SAID NO MORE MOON SCAPING, RIGHT? UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAD SOME OF THEIR OVERALL APPROVALS TO PRIOR TO THAT POINT. AND THEN THEN WHEN THEY DID THE WORK WITHOUT THE PERMIT, THEY WILL MEET THE CONDITIONS AND THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH DOING WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT AND NOT HAVING ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE TREE COUNT AND SO FORTH. SO LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO FORWARD SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS EVER HAPPEN AGAIN. WELL, I'LL SAY SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY BEING ADDRESSED BY OUR CODE. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE DO STUFF THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO. BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. BUT I MAKE IT MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE TOUGHER THAT THEY THAT THEY WOULDN'T DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I THINK THEY THINK THAT WE'RE THE BIG HILLBILLIES FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM SOUTH FLORIDA. LIKE THEY 
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KNOW BETTER THAN WE DO. SO I, YOU KNOW, LET'S SLAP THEIR HANDS A LITTLE BIT IS, IS THE UNDERLYING ISSUE THAT THE WORK BEING DONE WITHOUT PERMIT OR THE NATURE OF THE. OKAY. I MEAN, WE CAN ADD ALL THE LANGUAGE WE WANT TO CODE. PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY STILL GOING TO WORK AND DO THINGS. I'M SAYING IS THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TEETH IN THE, IN THERE FOR IN THE CODES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN AND THEN IS THERE ALSO COUNCIL ACTION TO, TO RE RELOOK AT TREE PRESERVATION AND, AND TRYING TO MAKE IT TO WHERE THEY'RE NOT THE SITES AREN'T BEING COMPLETELY CLEAR CUT. I THINK THAT I THOUGHT I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD THAT. WELL I THOUGHT THEY PUT TREES BACK IN AREN'T THEY. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. MEETING. YEAH. THEY DON'T THERE AREN'T THERE AREN'T PLANS YET FOR THE FOR THE WEST SITE. SO I, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, IN, IN THOSE, IN THOSE PHASES OF, OF DEVELOPMENT. I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE FELT LIKE THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WE DID WITH THE TREES IS THAT WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT AMENDMENT IS THE, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT THE BROUGHT THOSE RESOLUTIONS BEFOREHAND THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT WE KEEP THE NATURAL, NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY THERE. RIGHT. THAT'S THE WAY. I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY I WAS WANTING TO BE. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY ELSE HAD THE SAME FEELINGS. OKAY. 
          MR. NEWMAN? YEAH, YEAH. JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS REGARDING THE SAME THING. MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT THE CLEARING OCCURRED WHILE WE WERE OR STARTED OR WHATEVER THAT HAVE YOU WHILE WE WERE DISCUSSING THOSE CHANGES, IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT ON THAT? YES. OKAY. SO OKAY. AND IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE AND DIFFERENT TO DO THIS PARTICULAR THING NOW AS IT WAS BEFORE. BUT IS MY UNDERSTANDING PER TREE BASED ON HOW WE. YES, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT TO DO IT DOES BRING INTO QUESTION THAT THEY HAVE TO FALL UNDER THE NEW RULES SO. WELL, AND AS MR. CONNELLY SAID, YOU CAN'T STOP SOMEBODY, MA'AM. YOU CAN'T STOP SOMEBODY FROM BREAKING OUR RULES. I'M JUST SAYING THAT OUR CURRENT RULES, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE EXPENSIVE IN ORDER TO DO THIS, BECAUSE THEY DID THIS IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT. BASICALLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CATCHING OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE. ARE YOU DONE? MR. ADAM HAD A LOOK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD MORE CLARITY ON THAT, ADAM, OF THE TIMETABLE, THE TIMELINE OF IT, MAYBE. I THINK I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. I JUST AND I COULDN'T SAY IT DEFINITIVELY, BUT IT'S SOMEWHAT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AS PART OF THE PROPERTY PURCHASE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS, IT MAY HAVE BEEN A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OF ONE PROPERTY OWNER TO TAKE THESE STEPS ON THE ON THE OTHER SITE. BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT DEFINITIVELY, BUT I'VE I'VE HEARD THAT THIRD HAND. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO WEIGH MY OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD REVISIT IT, BECAUSE CURRENTLY I'M AT A. IT'S WE'VE DONE A LOT. AND I JUST SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE. BUT BUT OKAY, I THOUGHT ON THE WEST, I MEAN, ON THE EASTERN SIDE, THEY HAD THE THEY HAD THE PERMITS. THE CANAL IS THE SEPARATION. THE EASTERN SIDE IS A DIFFERENT OWNER AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET THEIR OWN PERMITS AND THAT WOULD NOT GO COINCIDE WITH THE EASTERN SIDE IF THEY GOT THEIR THE EASTERN SIDE GOT THEIR PERMITS THAT BEFORE WE. WE PUT THE REGULATIONS ABOUT THE TREES. SO THE WESTERN SIDE HASN'T. IT'S A DIFFERENT OWNER. SO WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO START FROM SQUARE ONE RATHER THAN BE CO-MINGLED WITH BOTH THE WEST, THE EASTERN SIDE. SORRY. CAN YOU TRY TO. 
          I'M TRYING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE QUESTION IS, BUT IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT. SO FROM THE CANAL EAST AND I WILL, I WILL USE THAT. THERE IS A LITTLE TINY BIT THAT EXTENDS TO THE WEST OF THE CANAL, BUT FOR THAT AREA IT'S. LENNAR IS DOING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT, AND IT IS PERMITTED. AND THEY ARE DOING WORK WITHIN THEIR PERMIT OF PERMITS. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ALLOW, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, THERE'S THERE IS SOME ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN WHEN LENNAR PURCHASED THE LAND FROM SOUTHERN HOMES, THERE WAS SOME ARRANGEMENT THAT AS PART OF THE SALE, BUT I'VE ONLY HEARD THIS THIRD OR FOURTH HAND, SO I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SEEN THE SALE THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO ADDITIONAL CLEARING, WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVE THAT NPDES PERMIT, BECAUSE LENNAR AND THEIR CONTRACTORS APPLIED FOR THAT PERMIT PROPERLY. THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TRUE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR WHAT WE'LL CALL THE WEST PORTION OF THE MAYFAIR PROJECT, THAT IS TYPICALLY WE REQUIRE AT LEAST SOME SOME FORM OF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THIS PROPERTY. WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? DO YOU HAVE PRELIMINARY APPROVALS BEFORE WE NORMALLY SIGN OFF ON LAND ALTERATION PERMITS? AND THAT DID NOT OCCUR. THEY MOVED 
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FORWARD WITHOUT THEIR PERMITS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REAL QUICK MR. LARUSSA. THANK YOU. JUST CURIOUS IF THE FEE FOR THE CLEARCUTTING IS DIFFERENT FROM THE FEE FOR APPLYING FOR TREE BY TREE AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND THE LAND ALTERATION, YOU KNOW, SO A LOT OF DEVELOPERS OVER THE YEARS HAVE JUST CLEAR CUT AND THEY SAID, OKAY, WE'LL PAY THE FINE VERSUS NOT GOING TREE BY TREE AND DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION. WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE DELTA ON THAT? THAT WAS PART OF THE AMENDMENT THAT WE DID FOR THE TREE CLEARING THAT THAT SCALED BACK WHAT THAT OVER THAT MAXIMUM AMOUNT WAS GOING TO BE. AND IT WAS IN PART BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THESE LARGER PROJECTS THAT HAD NOT WE WEREN'T USING MAYFAIR AS THE EXAMPLE, BUT SOME OF THESE LARGER PROJECTS THAT THAT PRICE REALLY COULD GET UP THERE INTO SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT TO IMPEDE DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS THE INTENT TO MAKE THEM LOOK AT WHAT THEY COULD SAVE AND NOT SAVE AND DO A THOROUGH EVALUATION OF IT. OKAY. MAKE SENSE? SURE. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MISS LAMB? I STILL THINK THEY SCREWED US. YEAH, I BELIEVE SO, TOO. I THINK THE OTHER SERVICE AWARD. YEAH, THAT THAT COMING DOWN THE RIGHT. SO ANY, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE. OKAY. WE'RE MOVING ON TO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE ONE MORE AWARD. COME ON DOWN. JOANNA BOOTH. HOW YOU DOING? WHAT WHAT. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'RE HERE ALL NIGHT. YOU'RE FINE. YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE. NOT ALL NIGHT. YEAH. 
          WE ARE, WE ARE. MAYBE. OKAY. SO. OKAY. MY MICROPHONE. I WAS JUST GOING TO TALK REALLY LOUD. SO COMMUNICATION SERVICE OR COMMUNICATION SUPERVISOR JOANNA BOOTH HAS SERVED FOR 25 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. SO SHE BEGAN HER CAREER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON AUGUST 6TH OF 2001. DURING HER CAREER, SHE HAS BEEN AN EXEMPLARY COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, PROVIDING BOTH POLICE AND FIRE DISPATCH SERVICES. JOANNA IS A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO OUR COMM CENTER AND LEADS THE WAY BY EXAMPLE EVERY DAY. SHE CURRENTLY SERVES AS SHIFT SUPERVISOR AND A TRUSTED MENTOR AND TRAINER. JOANNA ALSO SERVES ON THE CRITICAL INCIDENT, STRESS MANAGEMENT AND PEER SUPPORT TEAMS, AS WELL AS THE INCIDENT DISPATCH TEAM, WHICH RESPONDS TO MAJOR INCIDENTS FOR COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO DUTIES OVER 25 YEARS OF SERVICE, JOANNA HAS RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING RECOGNITION RECOGNITION TWO EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR AWARDS. ONE CHIEF'S ACHIEVEMENT AWARD TWO UNIT CITATION BARS. TWO UNIT MERITORIOUS SERVICE BARS. ONE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER AWARD. THREE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH AWARDS. TEN CERTIFICATES OF COMMENDATION, TWO APPLAUSE AWARDS AND MULTIPLE LETTERS OF APPRECIATION. IT'S QUITE IMPRESSIVE. IT IS. PRIOR TO SERVING IN MELBOURNE, JOANNA SPENT FIVE YEARS AS A COMMUNICATION OFFICER WITH THE LAKE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          SHE WAS RECRUITED WHILE WORKING AT THE EUSTIS LIBRARY AND ATTENDING SCHOOL TO BECOME A MUSIC TEACHER. WHEN HER FRIEND CHRIS DANIELS, WHO LATER BECAME SHERIFF DANIELS, ENCOURAGED HER TO APPLY FOR A POSITION WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IN JULY OF 2001, JOANNA MARRIED HER HUSBAND, JEREMY, AND THEY MOVED TO MELBOURNE, WHERE SHE BEGAN HER CAREER WITH US. SO I HAVE A QUOTE FROM YOU. I DON'T USUALLY GET QUOTES IN HERE, SO I LOVE IT. SO JOANNA OFTEN SAYS, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE WORLD OF 911, AND JUST WHEN I THINK I'VE HEARD IT ALL, I GET ANOTHER CALL. THAT REMINDS ME, NO, JOE, YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT ALL. SO BEYOND HER PROFESSIONAL CAREER, SHE ENJOYS TIME OUTDOORS, WORKING ON HER GARDEN. IN FACT, SHE IS PROBABLY NOT ALLOWED AT ROCKLEDGE GARDENS OR LUCAS NURSERY WITHOUT A CHAPERON RIGHT BACK THERE. SHE ALSO ENJOYS ACTIVITIES ON THE WATER OR IN THE WOODS WITH HER HUSBAND AND DAUGHTER, PAIGE. SO 
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JOANNA SAYS SHE HAS HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE SOME AMAZING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BECOME MORE THAN COLLEAGUES. THEY'VE BECOME FRIENDS AND AN EXTENDED FAMILY, SO WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR JOANNA'S 25 YEARS OF EXEMPLARY SERVICE AND ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU ON OUR TEAM AT THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU GET TO SAY A FEW WORDS. YES YOU DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JEREMY, FOR TOLERATING ALL THE THE LAST MINUTE OVERTIME CALL INS. AND YOU KNOW, WE NEED YOU SORT OF THING. AND IF I CAN JUST TAKE A FEW SECONDS WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH CONSOLIDATIONS AND EVERYTHING, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU HAVE THE BEST GROUP OF DISPATCHERS AND EMERGENCY PERSONS WORKING IN THAT COMM CENTER RIGHT THERE. AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE ALMOST AS LONG AS I HAVE. AND THEY KNOW THE CITY, THEY KNOW THE RESIDENTS, THEY KNOW THE PEOPLE. 
          THEY KNOW THE STREETS, THEY KNOW THE LANDMARKS. THEY KNOW MELBOURNE. AND I JUST I WANT TO SAY THAT TO ENCOURAGE YOU KEEP MELBOURNE DISPATCH IN MELBOURNE WHERE IT BELONGS, WHERE IT BELONGS. SO I, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. SO BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR THE RECOGNITION. AND THIS IS FOR 25 YEARS. AND LIKE I TOLD LIEUTENANT KLAUS. BUT I'LL TELL YOU, YOU GOT YOU WERE HALFWAY THERE. YOU GOT 20. SO DON'T SPEND IT ALL IN ONE PLACE. IF WE CAN GET A PICTURE. COUNCIL, WILL YOU COME ON DOWN, GET A PICTURE WITH COUNCIL? YEAH, SURE. YEAH. SURE. ALL RIGHT. READY? ONE. TWO. THREE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. A LOT OF WORK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO 
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MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN. PUBLIC COMMENTS. I GOT A FEW. WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH WILLIAM BROWN FOLLOWED BY SEAN HARTLEY. WILLIAM BROWN. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS OPEN TIME OF PUBLIC COMMENT. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU, PASTOR AARON, FOR AGREEING TO OPEN US IN PRAYER. BUT AS A TAXPAYER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE OF OPPOSITION TO THE SPACE COAST PRIDE USING THE MELBOURNE AUDITORIUM, SINCE IT'S OUR PUBLIC PROPERTY THAT WE PAY FOR THAT. FOR THAT REASON, IT'S ON A MORAL PURPOSE IS, I THINK, DRAG QUEENS ARE A MISOGYNISTIC DEGRADATION OF MOTHERHOOD IN MELBOURNE. IT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, WITH THE STATISTICS ENCOURAGING CHILDREN TO TRANSGENDERISM CAN PRODUCE NINE TIMES THE RATE OF SUICIDE, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST ADDRESSED THIS EVENING. AND OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE THE NEW FLORIDA STATUTE, WHICH IS WHAT? 827.11 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE LOOKED AT THAT TO DETERMINE HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE SUPERVISED. AS FAR AS IT MENTIONS, ARTIFICIAL BREASTS AS PROVOKING LEWD ACTIVITY. THE QUESTION IS, WHO'S GOING TO MONITOR INSIDE OUR PUBLIC BUILDING WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHO ENFORCES THAT? BECAUSE THE FINES FOR THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN THE STATUTE ARE $1,000 OR ONE YEAR IN PRISON. BUT MY QUESTION MAY BE, MAYOR ALFRED, YOU MAY KNOW, IS WHO WHO REALLY WILL POLICE THAT? IS THAT GOING 
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TO BE THE MELBOURNE POLICE? IS THAT GOING TO BE THE COUNTY SHERIFF? IS THAT GOING TO BE THE STATE POLICE REGARDING THAT STATUTE? HAVE YOU HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT STATUTE IN REGARD TO THIS UPCOMING USE OF OUR AUDITORIUM? SO THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU. OKAY. I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WE HAVE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY MONITOR. 
          AND IF, IF ANYTHING IS OUT OF LINE WITH NOT JUST THAT EVENT FOR ALL EVENTS, THEY TAKE ACTION. AND I TRUST OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL DO THAT. I WILL TELL YOU, INTERESTINGLY, CITIZEN, YOU'RE WITH CITIZENS IN CHRIST, IN CHRIST. YES. YOU KNOW, MY MY GRANDFATHER WAS A PASTOR HERE. AND, AND I TELL A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN A WHILE BACK WHEN THE PRIDE GROUP WAS HAVING IN MELBOURNE, I TOOK A LOT OF HEAT FROM PEOPLE MAKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT WERE ALLEGEDLY HAPPENING, HAPPENING, THAT WASN'T HAPPENING. AND THE PROBLEM IS IT'S NOT ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S ABOUT THE US CONSTITUTION. 
          AND I TELL ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY BEING A RELIGIOUS MAN AND MY FATHER BEING A PASTOR HERE, HER GRANDFATHER, BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY. I TELL A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, CONSTITUTION, WHITMER V VINCENT, WHICH ACTUALLY IS CASE LAW THAT ALLOWS US CHRISTIANS TO GO INTO PUBLIC PLACES AND PREACH OUR MESSAGES. YES. AND AS SOME OF THE BEST AND I WILL SAY, CONSERVATIVE SCHOLARS HAVE SAID, YOU DON'T BLOW UP THE CONSTITUTION BECAUSE SOMETHING GOES ON THAT YOU DON'T LIKE. AND THAT'S WHY YOU YOU CAN SPEAK AND LISTEN. AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR CHIEF IS HERE. WE WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE THERE. AND AGAIN, ALL GROUPS GET TO USE, YOU KNOW, USE THE CONSTITUTION, THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL. RIGHT. RIGHT. WELL, I'M JUST HOPING OUR RIGHTS ARE NOT DEVOLVED INTO LIBERTINE EXPRESSIONS, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THE FOUNDERS WOULD BE APPALLED AT SOME OF THESE USES OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. AND, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, DO THIS KIND OF STUFF LIKE DRAG QUEENS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF CHILDREN, I MEAN, IS THAT THERE ARE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, LIKE YOU SAY, BUT HAS THAT WHOLE VALUE DEVOLVED INTO LIBERTINE EXPRESSIONS? I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT AMERICA HAS COME TO? I WILL TELL YOU, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE EVOLVED THAT I DON'T LIKE, WHETHER IT COMES TO THE INTERNET, TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE YOU OVERUSING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE RIGHTS, BUT WHATEVER HAPPENED TO RESPECT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THIS COUNTRY'S LOST THAT. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WHILE I'M MAYOR, WHETHER PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT, I WILL STAND UP FOR THE US CONSTITUTION. WELL, CERTAINLY. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I GO BACK TO WHEN COVID HAPPENED AND I WAS AT A AN EVENT WITH A BUNCH OF MAYORS AND THEY TRIED TO PUSH ON ME TO NOT ALLOW GUN SHOWS AT OUR AUDITORIUM. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. AND A LETTER WENT OUT AND, AND I SAID, NO, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN MY, YOU KNOW, MY SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT? IF IF THERE'S WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. SO AS LONG AS I'M MAYOR, YOU KNOW, WE WILL PROTECT WE WILL PROTECT, YOU KNOW, OUR CITIZENS, OUR COPS WILL WILL THEY DO THEIR JOB? WE'LL PROTECT OUR POLICE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROTECT THE US CONSTITUTION. OKAY. SO THERE IF THERE'S RECORDINGS OR, YOU KNOW, VERIFICATION OF BOOKS THAT ARE PORNOGRAPHIC FOR CHILDREN, THEN WE CAN GIVE THEM TO YOU OR THE POLICE CHIEF, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT I WOULD I WOULD ASK YOU TO. YEAH. OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I WOULD ASK YOU TO. OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION THAT THE MELBOURNE POLICE WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL MONITOR THIS TO BE SURE THAT NEW FLORIDA STATUTE IS HONORED. AND. OKAY. THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. RICHARD WEBB, FOLLOWED BY SEAN HARTLEY. HI. 
          SAME TOPIC, RICHARD WEBB. OUR OPPOSITION IS TO USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO PROMOTE SOMETHING THAT IS AGAINST THE THE STANDARDS OF THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AT ALL, BUT WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE. THE LEGISLATURE HAS PASSED LAWS THAT MAKE IT A. CRIMINAL OFFENSE. IF THERE IS ANY INSTANCE OF GROOMING, THEN YOU ALL CAN LOSE YOUR PENSIONS. AND THE PEOPLE THAT ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. IF IT TURNS INTO A DRAG QUEEN STORY OR A LEWD DEMONSTRATION, THEN Y'ALL ARE IN JEOPARDY AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. YOU'VE GOT 
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GOOD REPUTATIONS FOR UPHOLDING THE LAW, AND WE EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. 
          GOOD, GOOD. MR. RUSSO, SIR, ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT YOU OPENING YOUR OPENING WAS THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS. AND SO I JUST WROTE DOWN A NOTE. AND BELIEVE ME, I'M NOT ARGUING FOR OR AGAINST, BUT I AM ASKING WHAT PUBLIC FUNDS ARE BEING USED? THE USE OF THE AUDITORIUM IS THAT CHARGED TO SOMEONE. THEY ARE OKAY, AND THERE'S NOT A DIME, A DIME THAT COMES OUT OF THE CITY'S POCKET THAT THEY HAVEN'T, THAT THEY HAVEN'T PAID FOR. IT'S A IT'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH FOR POLICE FIRE PAY FOR ALL THAT, THAT ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S GOOD ARGUING EITHER WAY. BUT I AM SAYING THERE ARE NO PUBLIC FUNDS BEING USED FOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION NOR ANY PARADE. OKAY, OKAY. NOT JUST THIS ONE. 
          OKAY. THANKS. THAT REALLY HELPS. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SEAN HARTLEY, FOLLOWED BY TERRI FULTON. HI, I'M SEAN HARTLEY WITH DALTON WADE REAL ESTATE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF STACY SULLIVAN, OWNER OF 1207 EBER ROAD. IT WAS COUNTY LAND THAT SHE HAD ANNEXED INTO MELBOURNE BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING TO BUILD ON IT. NOW SHE'S SELLING IT. THE CITY. THE COUNTY WANTS TO PUT AN EMS STATION THERE. AND LADY RUTKOWSKI FROM THE BREVARD COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN GETTING ALL KINDS OF WHAT SEEMS TO BE ROADBLOCKS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM YOU TO BEING THE CORRECT ZONING WITH. IN REGARDS TO ALLOWING AN EMS STATION THERE. AND NOW THEY'RE FORCED THE COUNTY TO PUT UP 100 AND $100,813 TO GET A CIVIL ENGINEERING DESIGN PROPOSAL PRIOR TO THE ZONING CHANGE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AFTER THE ZONING CHANGE. SO HE'S HAD TO EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS. HE'S HAD TO SELECT A, A. LACK OF A BETTER WORD, A FLOOR PLAN OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COMMIT TO THAT TO SPEND THIS $100,000. AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT HE WANTS TO COMMIT TO AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE THE EXACT THING THAT FITS BEST ON THAT PROPERTY. AND SO WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING WITH THE ZONING DEPARTMENT TRYING TO GET THIS THROUGH. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S IT'S THE NORMAL STEPS OF PROCESS. SO I FIGURED I'D COME HERE AND DISCUSS IT WITH YOU GUYS REAL QUICK IF I CAN ADDRESS YOU. I WAS MADE AWARE OF THIS AND I'LL SAY BY PUBLIC RECORD, TOM NIEDERT TOM HAD CALLED ME. I RECENTLY TALKED TO OUR CITY MANAGER. WE DISCUSSED SOME OF THIS TODAY, AND WE'RE GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION AND BEING PRIOR PUBLIC SAFETY, I WANT TO TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO RESOLVE THIS. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST RECENTLY COME AND GO. MISS LAMB, DID YOU SAY OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR JUST INDICATED SHE COULD PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON THE SPOT? THANK YOU. YES, I BELIEVE LADY. IS THAT HIS NAME WITH BREVARD COUNTY HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH OUR OFFICE. WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING THE FEEDBACK OF THE STEPS TO GO THROUGH ANNEXATION, DESIGNATION OF FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING. AND THE ISSUE IS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR A FORMAL SITE PLAN, SOME TYPE OF EXHIBIT, TO COME IN WITH THAT, AS WE DO IN ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS. AND I THINK THAT WAS AN UNEXPECTED STEP AND COST THAT THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF. SO WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM. WE'VE, YOU KNOW, TOLD THEM WHAT THE STEPS ARE. THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE LAST WE'VE HEARD OF IT. IT'S PROBABLY BEEN THIS PAST MONTH THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM. AND THIS MAY BE UPON HEARING THIS NOW, THIS MAY PART OF THE CONFUSION MAY BE THAT THE COUNTY HAS A DIFFERENT PROCESS. AND IN FACT, THE THE PROPERTY THAT WAS DISCUSSED HERE AT COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, VERY DIFFERENT PROJECT, BUT THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE SITE PLAN. AND THAT THAT FREQUENTLY LEAVES A LOT OF, WELL, WHAT ARE THEY REALLY DOING? WHAT ARE THEY NOT DOING? BUT THE COUNTY DOESN'T INVOLVE THAT CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN PROCESS. AND THE CITY DOES. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. A LOT OF THE DIFFERENCES. YES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A PRETTY RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE THIS IS PROPOSED AT. IT'S THE SOUTH SIDE OF HEBER, JUST WEST OF DAIRY ROAD. WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL HAS, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE BROUGHT THOSE SITE PLANS WITH THOSE TYPES OF REQUESTS. AND SO WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THE PROTOCOL 
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THAT WE'VE USED, YOU KNOW, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ON WHAT'S REQUIRED. OKAY. SO IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN JUST MISS LAMB, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A TOPIC ON, YOU KNOW, IT POSSIBLY BEING FOR AMBULANCE SERVICES, IF YOU JUST THE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UPDATE OUR COUNCIL ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE STEPS BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE ALL THIS CONFUSION. IF IT APPEARS THAT WAY, WE CAN DOCUMENT THE STEPS THAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM AND WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS. AND AS WE GET SOMETHING NEW, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO COUNCIL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WOULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM HAVING AMBULANCE SERVICES THERE. WE ALL SO, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE GETTING SOME SOME DIFFERENT FEEDBACK, NOT GETTING SOME INFORMATION TIMELY. SO I FIGURED I WOULD COME HERE AND SEE IF I COULD HELP SPEED THINGS UP OR, YOU KNOW, NO THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          TERRY FULTON. MY NAME IS TERRY FULTON. I'M LIVE IN MELBOURNE. I'M HERE ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS. MAINLY BECAUSE THEY RECORD AND ANALYZE EVERY VEHICLE THAT PASSES, NOT JUST VEHICLES THAT ARE IN CRIMES. I THINK EVERYBODY'S SEEN ON IN THE NEWS WHERE THE LADY WAS AT GUNPOINT AND PUT IN JAIL, AND IT WAS MIS UNDERSTOOD IT WASN'T HER. ON MASS TRACKING, THEY CAN LOG OUR LICENSE PLATE, VEHICLE LOCATIONS, COLORS, MODELS, AND EVEN OUR BUMPER STICKERS. AND I CAN IMAGINE SOME WEIRDO MAYOR OR. SOMEHOW A PERSON THAT'S SAYING, OH, THOSE PEOPLE'S GOT DEMOCRAT STICKERS. OH, THOSE PEOPLE'S GOT REPUBLICAN STICKERS ON THEIR CAR. I'M TERRIBLY DISTRESSED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I'M OLD ENOUGH, AND SOME OF Y'ALL ARE TO KNOW BETTER WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE. AND THE NETWORK OF CAMERAS CAN REVEAL SOMEONE WHO WHERE THEY LIVE, WHERE THEY WORK, WHERE THEY WORSHIP, AND THE DOCTORS THEY VISIT, AND ANY PROTEST THEY'RE GOING TO. THIS DATA CAN BE SHARED WITH SOME PEOPLE. I UNDERSTAND FROM WATCHING THE NEWS, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. POLICEMEN ARE CHECKING ON THEIR GIRLFRIENDS. SO I'M DEAD SET AGAINST IT. AND THE PEOPLE THAT SEEM TO BE FOUGHT DON'T HAVE A CLUE TO WHAT THIS COULD REALLY HAPPEN HERE. AND, AND THE BUILDING THAT'S GOING ON, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE GOT, IT'S THE BUMPER OUT THERE. I DON'T I DON'T THINK Y'ALL Y'ALL MUST NOT LIVE HERE. YOU DON'T SEE THE BUMPER TO BUMPER. THE TRAFFIC IS AWFUL. WE GOT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WATER PROBLEM. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SEWER PROBLEM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ELECTRICITY PROBLEM. AND THE POOR LITTLE ANIMALS ARE JUST GOING EVERYWHERE. THEY'RE TAKING OUR GREEN SPACE, WHICH Y'ALL STOPPED THE SO FAR. Y'ALL STOPPED THE FIREHOUSE THERE. IT'S SANO AND WICKHAM. Y'ALL STOP THAT GREEN SPACE KILLING AND THE TREES THAT ARE BEING CHOPPED DOWN. CAN Y'ALL STOP THIS BUILDING IN ANY WAY? CAN YOU? HELLO? THE APARTMENTS. THE HOUSES. DO Y'ALL NOT SEE WHAT'S GOING ON? Y'ALL LOOK AT ME LIKE I'M CRAZY. OH, Y'ALL ARE FOR IT, MAYOR. VICE MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP. WHEN THIS LADY BROUGHT UP THE FLOCK CAMERAS. I HAVE BEEN KIND OF LOOKING INTO ALL OF THIS JUST BASED ON THE NEWS AND BASED ON THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. SO I GOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND WHAT WE WERE DOING. SO I HAD BEEN ASKING SOME PRETTY TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE USE IT, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THEM AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WITH MY CONCERN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS AT THIS POINT, BUT I KNOW OUR POLICE CHIEF AND THOSE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN OUR FLOCK CAMERAS ARE HERE. IF WE CAN JUST HAVE ONE OF THEM COME UP AND JUST SAY, LIKE, WHAT DO WE USE THEM FOR? HOW DO WE USE THEM? WELL, HOLD ON. WE'RE WE'RE IN PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW. HOW ABOUT THIS? IF, IF THE CHIEF'S HERE AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS LOOKING AT BRINGING IT, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE HAVING EVEN A FLOCK REPRESENTATIVE HERE. BUT IF THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN INITIALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION AND IF WE WANT TO HAVE A FUTURE CONVERSATION. SO LET'S GET THROUGH THIS. YEAH, JUST TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE'RE NOT MISUSING, IN MY OPINION. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. THERE'S SO MUCH MISINFORMATION OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO I, I LOOK, IF WE COULD WRAP, WE GOT WHAT, LIKE THREE MORE SPEAKERS AND 
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WE'LL DO, WE'LL, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION ON THE SCHEDULING THING THOUGH. I THOUGHT WE HAD GIVEN THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA AT SOME POINT. IS THAT NO LONGER ON THE AGENDA? BECAUSE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT WAS FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WELL, IT WAS IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR, YOU KNOW, EARLY NEXT MONTH. I WAS KIND OF SEEING WHAT PALM BAY WAS DOING, AND IT LOOKED LIKE PALM BAY TURNED THEIR BACK ON AND THEY'RE OFF. THEY'RE ON AND, AND TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND DATA. BUT YEAH, I KNOW THEY'RE BACK ON. SO IT'S KIND OF KIND OF KIND OF LOOK AT THAT. BUT IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS THAT NOW, I'D RATHER JUST HAVE IT ON AGENDA. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE WERE STILL DOING THAT. I THINK THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE. I WASN'T SURE WHEN THAT WAS COMING. YEAH. WELL, BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO, VICE MAYOR? I WANT TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO OUR CITIZENS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE NEWS IS REALLY KIND OF MAKING IT SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT IN MELBOURNE. AND, AND I WANT TO DISCLAIM THAT AND I'M GOING TO JUMP ON BOARD WITH YOU. WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE A QUICK DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION. IF WE WERE TO INITIALLY, WITHOUT PUTTING ANY INFORMATION OUT, LET'S SAY PUT ON THE AGENDA, THEN I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF THINGS OUT THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, SO IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH, SIR. I ALSO, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR NOT, I MEAN, IT WASN'T ON TONIGHT, BUT IT'S WE WILL, BUT WE'LL HAVE A QUICK BRIEF DISCUSSION. IF WE NEED MORE INFORMATION WE'LL ADD IT ON. OKAY. BUT IF WE COULD CHRIS, YOU JUST PUT. CHRIS UPDATE DR. 
          BREVARD AND THEN FOLLOWED BY BECCA. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT'S A LITTLE NERVE WRACKING BEING UP HERE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CHRIS. I'M A LIFELONG BREVARD RESIDENT CURRENTLY LIVING IN WEST MELBOURNE AND HERE TODAY AS AN ORGANIZER WITH THE FLORIDA DIGITAL RIGHTS ASSOCIATION, BREVARD CHAPTER. I COME TO YOU TODAY ABOUT AN ISSUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT ISSUE, OF COURSE, IS FLOCK CAMERAS. WE'VE ALL SEEN THESE THINGS BOTH ON POLLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND IN THE NEWS. THESE AI POWERED MASS SURVEILLANCE MACHINES ARE SOLD AS ALPR AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS, AND ARE MARKETED AS A TOOL TO HELP COPS CATCH BAD GUYS. WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE IS, AMONG MANY THINGS, A WARRANTLESS MASS SURVEILLANCE TOOL THAT ABUSERS REPEATEDLY CANNOT RESIST USING TO AMPLIFY THEIR ABILITY TO DO HARM. I'D LIKE TO READ SOME SHORT EXCERPTS FROM A COUPLE NEWS ARTICLES, ALL FROM FLORIDA, ALL WITHIN THE PAST YEAR OR TWO. THERE I HAD DOZENS PRINTED OUT. 
          THERE ARE HUNDREDS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT I NARROWED IT DOWN TO TWO. FIRST ONE OUT OF MONROE COUNTY IN THE FLORIDA KEYS, DEPUTY LAMAR ROMAN STALKED A WOMAN THAT HE MET ON THE SET OF A TV SHOW AFTER CATCALLING HER, DISCOVERING SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND, GETTING HER NAME AND NUMBER ANYWAY, AND SENDING HER SOME INSTAGRAM DMS, WHICH WENT UNANSWERED. HE THEN USED DAVID AND FCIC TO LOOK UP HER PLATE, ADDED IT AND FLOCK TO A HOT LIST, WHICH WOULD ALERT HIM IMMEDIATELY IF HER VEHICLE DROVE PAST ANY FLOCK CAMERAS. A COUPLE DAYS LATER, HE GOT AN ALERT AND HE SPED 70MPH DOWN U.S. ONE, PASSING TWO DUMP TRUCKS IN A NO PASSING ZONE AND FORCING A TRUCK HEADED NORTHBOUND TO VEER OFF THE ROADWAY TO AVOID A WRECK SO HE COULD PULL HER OVER AND HARASS HER SOME MORE. SHE COMPLAINED HE GOT FIRED, BUT THIS CREEPY LITTLE PERV WAS ENABLED BY FLOCK TO BE A DANGER TO EVERYONE ON THE ROAD AND TO THIS WOMAN, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE WAS TOO HORNY AND UNABLE TO BE NORMAL ABOUT IT. 
          THERE ARE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THESE KINDS OF CASES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME. SO HERE'S A MORE LOCAL ONE FROM FLORIDA TODAY. JUST RECENTLY, A FORMER BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTY NAMED DEPUTY OF THE YEAR IN MARCH RESIGNED TWO MONTHS LATER AFTER A SERIES OF ALLEGATIONS FROM MISUSING FLOCK CAMERAS TO TRACK AN EX-GIRLFRIEND TO SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WITH A GUN. IT'S OKAY THOUGH, GUYS. IT WAS APPARENTLY HIS PERSONAL GUN, NOT HIS DEPARTMENT, ISSUED ONE. IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING. ACCORDING TO THE MEMO FROM SHERIFF IVEY, HE ADMITTED VIA TEXT TO CHOKING HER, TOLD HER, QUOTE, I SHOULD KILL YOU ON SNAPCHAT DURING AN ARGUMENT. THE AFOREMENTIONED GUN IN THE MOUTH THING. AND MOST IMPORTANT FOR MY CONVERSATION HERE TODAY, USED HIS DEPARTMENT ISSUED PHONE MULTIPLE TIMES, AT LEAST THREE TIMES TO LOOK UP HIS GIRLFRIEND'S PLATE, POTENTIALLY GIVING HIM LIVE ACCESS TO HER LOCATION, WHICH COULD THEN BE USED TO STALK HER AND COMMIT FURTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST HER. 
          LOOK, THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE BAD PEOPLE OUT THERE, SOMETIMES IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY. LET'S PLEASE NOT HAVE A CREEPY PANOPTICON THAT ENABLES ABUSERS EASIER ACCESS TO THE VULNERABLE. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. I'LL BE BACK ON THE NINTH WITH A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF INFORMATION TO CONSIDER. OKAY. THANK YOU. BECCA. AND IT'S NOT MISINFORMATION. IS THERE A BACKUP? OH, THERE YOU GO. HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BECCA AND I'M A SOFTWARE ENGINEER. I SPEND MY LIFE INSIDE SYSTEMS LIKE THESE FLOCK IN EXXON, AND I WRITE CODE, FIND FLAWS, UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS, AND HOW IT CAN FAIL. SO TONIGHT, I'M HERE TO EDUCATE AND WALK YOU GUYS THROUGH WHAT INDEPENDENT SECURITY RESEARCH HAS FOUND IN THESE SYSTEMS. 
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THIS IS THE TYPE OF TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT INTO THE MEDIA. SO REAL LIFE CVES VULNERABILITIES. SO THERE HAVE BEEN 14 DOCUMENTED VULNERABILITIES IN THESE SYSTEMS MADE LIKE FLOCK AND EXXON. SO VULNERABILITIES SUCH AS HARD CODED PASSWORDS BAKED INTO GUNSHOT DETECTION HARDWARE, AS WELL AS LICENSE PLATE READERS WITH THE SAME CVE, SAME VULNERABILITY, PLUS CODE STORED IN PLAIN TEXT HANDED TO WHOEVER HAS ACCESS TO IT. ONE DEVICE HAD ITS SECURE BOOT DISABLED ENTIRELY, MEANING SOMEONE WITH PHYSICAL ACCESS COULD FLASH IT WITH FIRMWARE OF THEIR OWN CHOOSING, AND THE SYSTEM WOULD NEVER KNOW. ON THE NETWORK SIDE AND ON AN UNAUTHENTICATED ADMINISTRATIVE DOOR WAS LEFT WIDE OPEN, SO EXPOSED API KEYS AND EXPOSED OPEN AUTH SECRET. A CRYPTOGRAPHIC KEY STORED PROTECTED BY A PASSWORD ANYONE COULD FIND, WHICH WAS RATED 9.8 OUT OF TEN FOR A CVE VULNERABILITY. SO AS AN ENGINEER, I CAN TELL YOU THIS ISN'T HYPOTHETICAL. THIS IS REPORTED. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SPEED TO THE MARKET BEATS SECURITY BY DESIGN. SO WHEN WE TRUST REPLACES THE VERIFY. SO WE'RE BEING WATCHED BY SYSTEMS THAT CAN'T WATCH THEMSELVES. SO I'M HERE ASKING NOT FOR YOU TO PANIC, BUT TO ENGAGE, TO ASK QUESTIONS. BECAUSE REAL SAFETY ISN'T A CAMERA ON A POLE. IT'S A SYSTEM WE CAN ACTUALLY TRUST. SO ASKING QUESTIONS SUCH AS WHO HAS ACCESS TO THE DATA, HOW LONG? WHO'S PERFORMING? PERFORMING SECURITY AUDITS. 
          WHAT IS YOUR PATCH SCHEDULE SO THAT WE CAN BE SAFE IN PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY? SO WITH HAPPY, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO A FLOCK REPRESENTATIVE AND JUST ASK SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. WOULD LOVE TO HELP GET INVOLVED VERY MUCH IN THE SECURITY RESEARCH COMMUNITY, JUST SO THAT WE CAN BETTER EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY AND WORK TOGETHER NOT TO NOT OUT OF FEAR, BUT SO THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING SAFE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          BLAKE. BLAKE. MOYER, FOLLOWED BY JEFF COLEMAN. BLAKE. RIGHT. YEAH. BLAKE. BLAKE FIRST AND THEN JEFF. I'M NEXT. HOW YOU DOING, EVERYONE? THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A ISSUE ALONG THE PARK COMMUNITY REGARDING RECKLESS DRIVING, SPEEDING, BURNOUTS AND THE LIKES THEREOF. AND ALSO, I NOTICED THERE IS A NEW NO U-TURN SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE AT THE AT THE ISLAND MEDIAN AT THE ENTRANCE, AND PEOPLE ARE DISOBEYING THAT SIGN AS WELL. 
          AND THERE'S PULLING INTO THE DRIVEWAY AND, AND THEY'RE MAKING THAT TIGHT TURN AROUND THAT ENTRANCE AROUND THE MEDIUM, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S A. BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL DOING IT. PEOPLE ARE STILL SPEEDING, DRIVING DANGEROUSLY, RECKLESSLY, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. AND I DO WANT TO COMMEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS, I NOTICED THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TIGHTENING UP THEIR ENFORCEMENT, PULLING PEOPLE OVER, CITING TICKETING, FINDING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VIOLATING OTHER LAWS. I DO WANT TO REQUEST SOME ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT MEASURES. MAYBE. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE, THEY DON'T LIKE OTHER SPEED BUMPS BECAUSE OF WHATEVER REASON. MAYBE STOP SIGNS, RUMBLE STRIPS, THE LITTLE SPEED TRAILER THING THAT FLASHES AT YOU. ANYTHING. IT'S DANGEROUS OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY THAT TURN THE CURVE THAT CONNECTS ZORA TO OUR WEST. VERY DANGEROUS. MAYBE LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 25 TO 20. JUST ANYTHING. WE HAVE TO TRY SOMETHING. THAT'S ALL I ASK. 
          AND I TOO AM OPPOSED TO FLOCK CAMERAS, SO WHY NOT HAVE ONE LAST THING? WHY NOT JUST HAVE A COP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AS OPPOSED TO HAVING FLOCK CAMERAS OR SOMETHING OR WHATEVER? SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU EVERYBODY, AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION? YES. YEAH. OKAY. WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU 
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ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING AND WHAT, WHAT WHAT STEPS CAN BE TAKEN FOR THAT? OKAY. THANK YOU. JEFF HOMAN. I THINK THAT'S THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER. AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION. HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JEFF HOMAN. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK HERE TODAY. I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF BREVARD COUNTY. I MOVED FROM CALIFORNIA BY MY FATHER, WHO. 
          AND MY MOTHER. HE WAS A IN THE MILITARY AS I WAS. I'M ALSO A VETERAN. HE ATTENDED LAW SCHOOL. 
          HE GOT HIS JURIS DOCTOR IN UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA, THEN MOVED US HERE WHERE HE WAS ON THE. ON THE TEAM THAT DEVELOPED OUR FIRST SPACE SHUTTLE. SO I'VE BEEN HERE MOST OF MY LIFE. 
          I'VE. GOOD UPBRINGING. I'VE. I'VE DONE TRIATHLONS, I'VE DONE MARATHONS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          AND THERE'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE WHAT YOU KNOW, MY FATHER WOULD SAY IS THE BIG PROBLEM WITH THE WORLD TODAY. AND NOT NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE HAPPEN TO. AND AS SUCH, THERE'S NO AWARENESS. THERE'S NO MINDFUL AWARENESS. THERE'S. NO DYNAMIC, YOU KNOW, ASSESSMENT, SO ON AND SO FORTH. AS SUCH, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED A BIG PROBLEM WITH ESPECIALLY BIKE RIDERS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU BIKES DON'T DO WHAT A BIKE CAN DO FOR PEOPLE. E-BIKE RIDERS ARE PRETTY RECKLESS. THEY'RE PISSING DRIVERS OFF, SO ON AND SO FORTH AND ADDING TO THE SAFETY PROBLEMS THAT ARE ON THE ROAD, WHICH INCLUDES OBSTRUCTIONS TO. BIKEWAY THAT I WENT OVER MY HANDLEBARS. AFTER THE MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE I HAVE BY A POWER LINE THAT WAS DANGLING DOWN ACROSS THE BIKEWAY, DAMAGED MY BIKE, IT HURT. I'M PRETTY BAD. I BROUGHT IT TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY. DEPARTMENT. THAT'S APPLICABLE, AND MY REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT TO THE DAMAGES TO MY BIKE WERE PUSHED OFF TO FPL. WHERE I BELIEVE THAT'S A. IF WE AS A CITY ENFORCED, SAY, OBSTRUCTIONS AS A CITY SHOULD. AND IF WE. YOU KNOW, TIGHTER OBSTRUCTIONS OR EVEN THE AMOUNT OF TIME A CONSTRUCTION BARRICADES CAN BE PUT UP WHEN THERE IS NO CONSTRUCTION THERE THAT CAN BE ENFORCED. AND ALSO, AND THIS IS ALL BACKED BY, YOU KNOW, THE BIKE COMMUNITY THAT I'M AFFILIATED THAT I, THAT THAT I'M OUT THERE WITH BICYCLE SHOP IS ONE. THEY APPLAUD ME FOR BEING HERE TODAY. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN PROPOSE A BIKEWAY ON WICKHAM BETWEEN NEW HAVEN AND SARNO. THAT HAS BEEN IN ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN IN BREVARD COUNTY, EVERY. EVERY ROADWAY THAT HAS. THAT'S A VERY INTENSE EXPERIENCE. NAIL BITING AND VERY UNSAFE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THE DAMAGES TO MY BIKE FOR. DUE PROCESS. OKAY, SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THIS BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING FLOC. ALL RIGHT. SO THE CHIEF DO YOU WANT TO START THAT OUT? SURE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. DAVE GILLESPIE, CHIEF OF POLICE, MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THE IDEA OF OF FLOC CAMERAS OR THAT THEY ARE A PUBLIC SAFETY TOOL. SO THIS IS ONE PIECE OF ONE ASPECT OF SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX TO BE ABLE TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT A SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM THAT'S DESIGNED TO MONITOR PEOPLE, AND IT CAPTURES INFORMATION FROM VEHICLE TAGS AS THEY PASS A CERTAIN POINT. SO IT'S TAKING THAT PICTURE. THE WE DO HAVE A 
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HANDFUL OF THESE AROUND THE CITY. AND SO WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A POLICY ON THIS. WE HAVE THAT REGULATES HOW THESE ARE USED. OFFICERS HAVE TO BE TRAINED, THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE THE TRAINING BEFORE THEY CAN UTILIZE THE, THE FLOC SYSTEM. AND WHEN THEY DO THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE TRAINING, THEN THEY CAN UTILIZE IT. WE ALSO DO OUR OWN INTERNAL AUDITS ON THE SYSTEM AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. IN FACT, THROUGHOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE WE REACHED OUT TO FLOC AND ASKED THEM TO COME TO THE MELBOURNE POLICE STATION ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS AGO OR SO. WE ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS, IF THEY COULD REQUIRE IT TO BE A REASON WHY SOMEBODY WOULD DO A SEARCH. 
          AND THEY THEY THEN IN TURN DID DO THAT. I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY DID. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT WAS PART OF OUR AUDITING PROCESS BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE INTEGRITY OF THE SYSTEM IS WHAT'S PARAMOUNT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THIS TOOL. AND WHY DO WE HAVE THIS TOOL? WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? THE PURPOSE IS THAT UTILIZING FLOCK CAMERAS HELPS US IDENTIFY STOLEN CARS, TAGS THAT ARE SUSPENDED VEHICLES OR DRIVERS THAT MIGHT BE SUSPENDED, PEOPLE THAT ARE ON PURPLE ALERTS OR AMBER ALERTS OR SO FORTH. SO ANY OF THE ALERTS AS WELL. SO IT'LL GIVE REAL TIME TO THE OFFICERS AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO VERY QUICKLY RESPOND AND MAKE AN APPREHENSION. IT ALSO HELPS US WITH INVESTIGATIONS AND IS A VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL. IN FACT, I WOULD TELL YOU IN 37 YEARS AS A POLICE OFFICER, IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST VALUABLE TOOL THAT I'VE SEEN IN THAT TIME FRAME. AND EVERY DAY THERE'S SUCCESS STORIES ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS ASSISTING WITH INVESTIGATIONS. AND SO RIGHT HERE IN MELBOURNE, I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS HELPED US SOLVE ARMED ROBBERIES. WE HAD ONE AT THE WAWA. WE WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE SUSPECT WITHOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS. WE'VE IDENTIFIED SUICIDAL SUBJECTS WHO WE HAD INFORMATION ON THEIR VEHICLE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY WENT. THEY LEFT A NOTE. WE WERE ABLE TO CHECK FLOCK. AND THEN WE KNOW AN AREA WHERE THE CAR WAS. WE CIRCULATE, LOCATE THE VEHICLE AND THEN BRING THE PERSON INTO PROTECTIVE CUSTODY. 
          SO AND I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE THE SUCCESS STORIES. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE POWERPOINT TONIGHT OR IS THIS WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? VICE MAYOR? I JUST THIS CAME UP LIKE IN TRUE TRANSPARENCY. OKAY. I WAS LOOKING AT THE FLOCK CAMERAS WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AND WITH BUDGET COMING UP, WHAT CAN WE TAKE OUT OF THE BUDGET? THAT AND IN MY MIND, THIS POPPED UP. AND THEN IN MY RESEARCH, I WAS LIKE, I THINK THIS IS MORE OF AN ASSET TO US. AND I THINK THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND IS ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT. BUT THEN I WAS LIKE, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW. SO I HAD ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO GET WITH THE CHIEF TO PUT THIS KIND OF THING TOGETHER, WHICH IS WHY IT WAS READILY AVAILABLE TO TELL US AND SHOW US WHAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE USES THESE CAMERAS FOR. THE QUESTIONS THAT HAD COME UP TO ME WAS, HOW LONG DOES IT STAY IN THE SYSTEM? WHO HAS ACCESS TO IT? WHAT IS IT ACTUALLY USED FOR IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, AS OPPOSED TO OTHER CITIES? THAT'S, I'M ASSUMING, CHIEF, WHAT'S IN HERE? RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE READY TO HEAR ALL OF THIS, OR IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON LIKE THE NEXT AGENDA. BUT I THINK SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          YEAH. AND AND ALSO TO HAVE THE FLOCK REPRESENTATIVE HERE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO START ASKING, EVEN THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, TO SOME OF THE FLOCK REPRESENTATIVES. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, THE WAY AI WORKS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE A PHONE CALL, NOW YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT EVEN REAL. IT'S WE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THESE ARE WHAT THEY DO. THE REALITY IS, IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO NOW WE GO THROUGH A TOLL BOOTH AND SUNPASS, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE A PICTURE OF YOUR TAG AND THEY BILL YOU BY TAG AND, AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, NOW THERE'S SCHOOL BUSSES, HAVE THEM ON. IF YOU PASS A SCHOOL BUS, THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW AND YOU'LL KNOW VERY SOON. SO, SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION, THERE'S SOME ACCURATE STUFF TOO. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT, THAT IF IT'S BEING USED IN MELBOURNE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CHECKS AND BALANCES AND, YOU KNOW, TO A POINT WHERE OUR COMMUNITY FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES, I DON'T THINK OUR COUNCIL WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM 
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PAUSING IT QUICKLY. IF IF THERE WAS. SO YOU DID OKAY WITH YOU. I'LL PUT IT ON FOR THE NEXT AGENDA LIKE I HAD PLANNED. GO AHEAD. MA'AM, DO YOU AUDIT WHO ACCESSED THE FLOCK INFORMATION? WE DO AUDIT IT. WE DO AUDIT THAT. AND WE YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TRIGGERS IN THERE THAT WILL SEND A FLAG. AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE A SERGEANT THAT DOES THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND THOSE AUDITS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. AGAIN, IT'S TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE THE THE TOOL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE SYSTEM, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM. AND IN MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE USE IT PROPERLY. I WOULD SAY, VICE MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT, WE DID HAVE A REQUEST IN THIS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR ALMOST DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF OF FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT WE REMOVED THAT WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT CUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF COUNCIL WAS TO ASK ME, SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SAVE THAT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, I WOULD ASK, LET ME TRY AND FIND IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN MY BUDGET. 
          THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT THE TOOL IS FOR, FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC. AND I THINK IT IS THAT IMPORTANT. AND NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, VICE MAYOR, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT FAMILY AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND I HAVE AND THAT'S WHAT MADE ME COME TO THE CONCLUSION OF THIS IS WORTH THE MONEY THAT WE PUT INTO IT, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND I THINK YOU TRUST THESE PEOPLE, I DO. AND AS PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IT WAS IT FREES UP SOME OF OUR OFFICERS TO DO OTHER THINGS BECAUSE THEY DON'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON THE INVESTIGATIONS, BECAUSE THIS HELPS THEM WITH THAT. GOOD. SIR, I THINK THERE'S FIVE BASIC QUESTIONS THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING. WHO CONTROLS THE SYSTEM. AND I HOPE THAT WE HAVE THIS IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE FOR WHEN WE SEE IT. SO THE FIRST ONE, AGAIN, IS WHO CONTROLS THE SYSTEM? WHO HAS ACCESS? HOW IS THE INFORMATION USED? HOW IS THE USE? HOW IS THE USE REVIEWED AND WHAT SAFEGUARDS SUPPORT ACCOUNTABILITY. SO IF WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE FIVE BULLET POINTS IN THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM FROM OUR CITIZENS, THEN MAYBE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE NEXT STEP DOWN, DOWN THE PATH HERE. BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE OF A 10,000 FOOT VIEW FOR, FOR THEM VERSUS OUR GROUND LEVEL, WHAT WE KNOW AND WHAT WE SEE AND WHAT WE ANTICIPATE. BUT OUT THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE. THEY NOT KNOWLEDGE. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND SO I'D LIKE TO SO I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THOSE THOSE FIVE BULLETS. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT, MR. LARUSSO, WHICH I'M I'M GOOD WITH THIS, IS THAT ANY COUNCIL THAT PRIOR HAS ANY QUESTIONS IF THEY WISH TO SUBMIT ALSO TO OUR STAFF. SO THEY'RE READILY AVAILABLE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO AS WELL. AND YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S GOOD AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND AND SEE, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE MAYOR, JUST JUST ONE GENERAL QUESTION. I THINK IT WILL BE INCLUDED. BUT HISTORICALLY, I THINK THE FUNDING FOR THIS ORIGINAL PURCHASE OR ACQUISITION IS FLAWED WAS A WHILE BACK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SORT OF INCLUDED, AND THERE WAS A GRANT OR SOME OTHER THINGS. AND I HAVE THAT IN AN EMAIL FROM THE CITY MANAGER. SO I'M SURE THE CITY MANAGER CAN FORWARD THAT TO ALL OF YOU. AND I'LL INCLUDE THAT IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE TOO. AND WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION ITEM AND TRY TO ANSWER AS MANY OF THE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN THE IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, INCLUDING THE GRANT INFORMATION. AND ONE FINAL THING, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER SYSTEMS. SO WAS THERE SOME TYPE OF COMPARISON BETWEEN THE OTHER SYSTEMS AND WAS THE ONE THAT WAS CHOSEN? SO THOSE ARE JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS. I DON'T WANT ANY ANSWERS TONIGHT, BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE MET THOSE. I MEAN, A GREAT QUESTION. BUT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE YOUR QUESTION AND ANSWER THAT WOULD BE IN THE AGENDA. OKAY, SO IT'D PROBABLY BE FROM US ASKING THE SAME QUESTION FOUR TIMES. THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD FUNNEL THOSE QUESTIONS TO ME, I WILL WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAVE THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. 
          DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU FOR INDULGING. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF. ALL RIGHT. CLOSES. LET'S SEE. MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. OH ACTUALLY I'M SORRY. 7.1 THAT RESILIENCY PLAN I APOLOGIZE. THE 7.1. YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK SECOND AND INTRODUCE TO YOU OUR PRESENTER FOR THE UPDATE TO OUR COASTAL RESILIENCY PLAN. CHRIS DOHERTY IS WITH OUR CONTINUING PLANNING CONSULTANT FIRM INSPIRE PLACEMAKING COLLECTIVE, AND HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT UPDATE THAT WE DID. SO TURN IT OVER TO YOU, CHRIS. THERE'S THE 
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EXCELLENT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, CHRIS DOHERTY, PRINCIPAL WITH INSPIRE PLACEMAKING COLLECTIVE. I KNOW I HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BRIEF MOMENT HERE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH, QUICKLY INTRODUCE THE THE PROJECT, A RECAP OF WHAT WE DID BACK IN 2021. AND THEN WHAT EXACTLY DID WE LOOK AT HERE WITH THE, THE UPDATED VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE FINDINGS? I'LL I'LL SKIP TO THE VERY END. WE DIDN'T LEARN THAT MUCH NEW INFORMATION, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE WE DID A PRETTY THOROUGH ASSESSMENT BEFORE. BUT WE'LL RUN THROUGH THIS. SO AGAIN, THIS WAS A BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THROUGH THE RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT PROGRAM. NOT UNLIKE THE COASTAL RESILIENCY PLAN THAT WAS THROUGH THE FLORIDA RESILIENT COASTLINES PROGRAM. 
          SO IT WAS JUST REBRANDED RECENTLY. SO WE COMPLETED IT IN 2021. AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I WANT TO SAY WITHIN 6 OR 8 MONTHS, THE STATUTES CHANGED. AND SO WE HAD TO GO BACK AND REDO THE ASSESSMENT. AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANT. SO IN THE ORIGINAL STUDY, WE IDENTIFIED THE VULNERABILITIES, DEVELOPED THE ADAPTATION ACTION AREAS. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF YOUR PRIORITY AREAS OF WHERE WE SHOULD START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE RESILIENCY PROJECTS AND THEN ESTABLISH KIND OF AN OVERARCHING STRATEGY FRAMEWORK FOR UNROLLING OR ROLLING OUT KIND OF RESILIENCY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. SO AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT SEA LEVEL RISE, STORM SURGE, RAINFALL. HERE ARE THE ADAPTATION ACTION AREAS THAT WERE DEVELOPED IN THE ORIGINAL STUDY. AGAIN, THESE ARE STILL THE SAME PRIORITY FOCUS AREAS THAT WE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS. SO AGAIN WE VERIFIED AND RECONFIRMED THAT INFORMATION. 
          SO ALL THE TRIBUTARIES OFF OF THE INDIAN RIVER AND THEN THE BARRIER ISLAND AGAIN NO NO BIG SECRET ON, ON THOSE THOSE AREAS, THOSE OVERARCHING STRATEGIES, JUST AS A REMINDER, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, COORDINATE WITH YOUR LOCAL OR REGIONAL AGENCIES AND STATE AGENCIES, IMPROVE THE FACILITIES AGAINST RESILIENCY AND THEN REGULATE. SO PROVIDING FOR ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS THAT LOOK AT RESILIENCY, SEA LEVEL RISE, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. SO THE SCOPE FOR THIS VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, CHAPTER 380, THE FLORIDA STATUTES CHANGED. 
          AND WHAT THAT MEANT WAS THE CITY WAS NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR ANY OF THAT POOL OF MONEY FOR RESILIENCY PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAD TO UPDATE YOUR VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. SO VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DID THAT. NOT ONLY DID THEY CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENTS, BUT FDEP UPDATED THEIR STANDARDS. SO THEY'RE THE ONES ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM, AND THEY IDENTIFY HOW YOU'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE STEPS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE STATUTE. SO AGAIN, THE FOCUS WAS UPDATING THE COASTAL FLOODING SCENARIOS, MAKING SURE WE'VE KIND OF DOTTED OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THIS IS NOT A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT STORMWATER CAPACITY. WE ARE SIMPLY LOOKING AT STORMS, STORM LEVEL SCENARIOS AND HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT YOUR CRITICAL FACILITIES. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE CHANGE IN THE STATUTE LOOKING AT REALLY WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE CRITICAL FABRIC OF THE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT YOU THE MOST. SO THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON OF THE OLD STUDY AND THE NEW STUDY SCENARIOS. SO YOU'VE GOT ACTUALLY NEW TO THE SEA LEVEL RISE. YOU'VE GOT EIGHT BRAND NEW SCENARIOS. INITIALLY WE DID THE HIGH EXTREME. SO THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS WHAT WE DID FOR THE ORIGINAL STUDY. NOW THE STATE REQUIRES 2040 THE INTERMEDIATE LOW INTERMEDIATE HIGH AND THEN INTERMEDIATE LOW PLUS TWO FEET INTERMEDIATE HIGH PLUS TWO FEET. SO WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 24IN ON TOP OF THE SEA LEVEL RISE. THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT OF THE NEW STUDY OR OF THE NEW STATUTES. SAME STORM SURGE SCENARIOS. SO CATEGORY ONE THROUGH FIVE, WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL SCENARIO WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE STORM SURGE. SO IT'S THE CATEGORY THREE STORM WITH THOSE SEA LEVEL RISE SCENARIOS. SO THOSE NEW ONES THERE IN 2040 AND 2070. A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE ON THE THE RAINFALL. WE USED JUST THE FEMA DATA FROM THE LAST STUDY. 
          THIS ONE, WE LOOKED AT DOING A RAINFALL MODEL. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I'LL 
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WALK THROUGH THAT. THIS IS KIND OF THE GENERAL EXTENT OF THOSE ADAPTATION ACTION AREAS. AND REALLY YOUR THE MOST IMPACTED AREA OF THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO SEA LEVEL RISE AND STORM SURGE. THESE ARE THE CRITICAL ASSETS. SO COMMUNITY EMERGENCY FACILITIES. AND THAT COULD INCLUDE SCHOOLS AND SHELTERS AND SO FORTH, NATURAL, CULTURAL, HISTORICAL FACILITIES, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES. WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY A LEVEL OF RISK BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF FLOODING THOSE PARTICULAR FACILITIES MAY INCUR AS PART OF THESE SCENARIOS. SO EVERY FACILITY THAT IS IMPACTED IS IDENTIFIED WITH A RISK LEVEL. 
          SO SO UP TO THREE INCHES IS IS LOW BETWEEN 3 AND 18 IS MEDIUM. AND THEN 18 AND ABOVE IS CONSIDERED HIGH RISK. YOU'LL NOTICE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES AND ROADWAYS IT'S DIFFERENT. AND THE REASON BEING IS ROADWAYS BECOME DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE AT REALLY ONCE YOU START GETTING TO A COUPLE INCHES AND ABOVE. AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT. SO THAT'S WHY THOSE THAT THAT RISK LEVEL IS, IS LOWER DEPTH LEVEL. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO KIND OF POP OFF THE PAGE A LITTLE BIT COMPARED TO WHAT WE LOOKED AT LAST GO AROUND BECAUSE AS PART OF THE NEW STATUTE, WE HAD TO LOOK AT REGIONAL FACILITIES. SO WE HAD TO GO BEYOND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. SO BEYOND YOUR CITY LIMITS. AND SO THESE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT INFLATED. AND I'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICKLY. SO THIS IS THE CATEGORY FIVE STORM SURGE SCENARIO. IN THIS CASE ONLY 1363 HIGH RISK FACILITIES WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY. THIS IS THE LET'S CALL IT THE WORST IMPACT SCENARIO. OKAY. AND I THINK WE KIND OF ALL UNDERSTAND THAT NOW YOU DO HAVE A LEVEL OF PROTECTION WITH THAT BLUFF ALONG THE INLAND PORTION OF OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. AND YOU'LL START TO SEE THAT IT'LL KIND OF BE A THEME AS YOU'LL SEE THE IMPACT SCENARIOS AS I GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES. SO THIS IS THE 500 YEAR RAINFALL, ROUGHLY 1200 OF THOSE 3800 HIGH RISK FACILITIES ARE IN THE CITY. NOW, THE INTERESTING PART IS YOU SEE A LOT OF YELLOW. THAT YELLOW ACTUALLY INDICATES LOW RISK, BUT IT'S MORE WIDESPREAD. 
          AND THAT'S BECAUSE BASICALLY THE RAINFALL MODEL SAYS, OKAY, YOU'RE 500 YEAR STORM IS A LITTLE BIT OVER FIVE INCHES OF RAIN AND POOF, IT'S ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY. SO IF ANY CRITICAL, CRITICAL FACILITY WERE TO GET BETWEEN A 0.1 AND THREE INCHES OF RAIN, IT'S CONSIDERED LOW RISK. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. IT IT'S A RATHER INFLATED RISK LEVEL. 
          NOW, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT TROPICAL STORM FAY WAS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT STORM EVENT. IT WAS ACTUALLY DOUBLE THAT OF THE 500 YEAR. SO YOU COULD ALMOST SAY IT WAS A 1000 YEAR STORM, IF YOU WILL. YEAH, YEAH. SO PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES PROBABLY WERE IMPACTED DURING FAY. IF YOU SEE PARTICULARLY ALONG CRANE CREEK, AGAIN, THOSE TRIBUTARIES WERE PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED. TAKING A LOOK AT THE 2040 INTERMEDIATE HIGH. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A A REAL. IMPACTED SCENARIO. SO IN TOTAL REGIONAL WE'RE LOOKING AT 46 HIGH RISK. BUT 19 OF THOSE ARE IN THE CITY. AND THEN LOOKING AT THE 2070. SO GOING OUT 30 MORE YEARS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 27 FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY. AND THEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO FUTURE STORM SURGE. SO CATEGORY THREE IN THE 2070 INTERMEDIATE HIGH, ROUGHLY 372 FACILITIES ARE WITHIN THE CITY. NOW, AGAIN, IT'S THOSE STORM SURGE EVENTS THAT REALLY START TO CREATE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS. OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO THE KIND OF THE FINDINGS OF THIS STUDY, WE HAD TO IDENTIFY WAITS IN PRIORITY RATINGS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE FACILITIES. 
          SO IN THIS IN THE TWO CHARTS, THE ABOVE CHART, WE IDENTIFIED A WAIT BASED ON THE SCENARIOS. 
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SO IN CERTAIN SCENARIOS THE RISK LEVEL IS RELATIVELY LOW. AND THEN IN OTHER SCENARIOS LIKE THE STORM SURGE EVENTS, THE RISK LEVEL IS HIGHER. THEN WE COME DOWN TO THE PRIORITY RATINGS. AND WE HAD THAT KIND OF IDENTIFY BASED ON HOW MUCH THOSE FACILITIES ARE BEING IMPACTED, WHAT THAT PRIORITY LEVEL IS. AND IT'LL MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE HERE AS I MOVE THROUGH THESE SLIDES. SO HERE THIS SHOWS THE PRIORITY LEVEL ACROSS ALL OF THE ASSETS. 
          FOR ALL OF THE SCENARIOS I MENTIONED, YOU HAVE THAT PROTECTION LEVEL THERE ALONG THE INLAND PORTION OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. OF COURSE, THE BARRIER ISLAND REMAINS HIGHLY VULNERABLE, PARTICULARLY THAT BACKSIDE. SO THE THE RIVER SIDE OF THE ISLAND AGAIN TENDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER. AND YOU'LL SEE IN MOST OF THE SCENARIOS, THE FACILITIES BEING IMPACTED THERE. AS I MENTIONED, THE CATEGORY FIVE, AGAIN BEING THE WORST OF THE THE SCENARIOS IN TERMS OF HIGHEST PRIORITY FACILITIES BEING IMPACTED. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE OVERALL STUDY, THERE'S A CHART AT THE END KIND OF SHOWS ALL THE FACILITIES, MOST OF THOSE HIGHEST PRIORITY ASSETS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. AND AGAIN, IT'S KEY THAT WE CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY, WITH THE STATE AND OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS. WHEN WE HAVE THESE EVENTS. OKAY. REAL QUICKLY, JUST A COUPLE MORE OF THE FINDINGS, JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS. THIS IS ALL LISTED AND NOTED IN THE STUDY, BUT AGAIN, NO FACILITIES RATED HIGHEST PRIORITY IN THE CITY. BUT THERE ARE A FEW FACILITIES IN THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND CULTURAL RESOURCES. THE PARTICULARLY WITH THE PARKS ALONG THE RIVER ON THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PART, THE SOUTH BEACHES WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, IT'S COUNTY FACILITY. 
          BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A CAT THREE CAT FIVE STORM THAT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE SOME OVERFLOW ISSUES. ANYBODY IN THE CITY. AND THEN THE GRANT STREET THAT WAS NOTED INITIALLY IN THE THE ORIGINAL STUDY, BEING ALONG CRANE CREEK AND BEING KIND OF IN THAT VULNERABLE POSITION. I MENTIONED THE THE PARKS AGAIN, FRONT STREET CIVIC CENTER AGAIN. 
          THAT'S RIGHT ON RIGHT ON THE WATER. AND THAT AGAIN WAS IN THE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL ADAPTATION ACTION AREAS FOR TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES. AGAIN, THE KEY HERE IS HAVING FOLKS GETTING OFF THE ISLAND OR GETTING OUT OF THOSE ADAPTATION ACTION AREAS. AND THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY EVACUATION ROUTES, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY THOSE ONES COMING OFF THE CAUSEWAY OR THE BRIDGES. SO WE ARE LOOKING THERE ARE IMPACTS, SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS, AGAIN, AROUND THE, THE, THE LANDINGS AND THE, THE ON RAMPS, IF YOU WILL, OF THOSE THOSE BRIDGES. SO WHAT'S NEXT? VERY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE STORMWATER CAPACITY. THOSE STORMWATER MASTER PLANS. 
          VERY IMPORTANT LOOKING AT EVALUATING THOSE CAPACITIES IN 100 YEAR SCENARIO AND THEN ADJUSTING DESIGN STANDARDS. WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST, LAST GO AROUND. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE REGULATORY SIDE. AND LOOKING AT EACH ONE OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS BASED ON WHAT WE THINK MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, THAT WASN'T REALLY SOMETHING WE USED TO DO. BUT NOW WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THAT IN GREATER DETAIL. AND THEN WHAT THE IMPACTS MIGHT BE FROM GROUNDWATER OR FROM TAIL WATER AND THE SEA LEVEL RISE AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT CAPACITY FOR STORMWATER IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          GO AHEAD MA'AM. OKAY. I KNOW THAT GOING TO THE MRC CONFERENCES AND ALL THAT, AND THEN WE HAVE THE RISING WATER, AND THEN WE HAVE FRONT STREET WITH THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE THERE, THE THE. SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT RAISING THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PLACES, NOT JUST IN MELBOURNE, BUT OTHER PLACES OVER ON THE WEST COAST AFTER THE STORMS AND ALL THAT THEY HAVE RAISED, TAKEN AND RAISED BUILDINGS UP THAT WERE FLOOD, YOU KNOW, GROUND LEVEL AND NOW MOVED THEM UP. ARE YOU ARE WE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE? NOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. OF 
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COURSE IT'S GOING TO. AND THAT'S WHAT THE THE REFERENCE TO DESIGN STANDARDS AND MAYBE SOME OF THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AND MAYBE A POLICY OF THE OF THE COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD, LOOKING AT BRINGING, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS UP. CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE IS DOING THAT IN A LOT OF, OF THEIR AFFECTED AREAS. SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO KIND OF MAKE A CALL ON. WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY OF THOSE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS. AGAIN, WE WERE LOOKING AT VULNERABILITIES, MAKING SURE WE WE CHECK THE BOX WITH THE STATE SO WE CAN OPEN UP THAT POOL OF MONEY FOR RESILIENCY PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I CAN REALLY THINK OF THAT WE HAVE THAT CLOSE TO THE WATER BECAUSE BALLARD ISN'T. 
          I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A BUILDING WITH THE BATHROOM, THE BATHROOM. BUT THAT WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, BUT NOT A MAJOR, NOT A MAJOR BUILDING GOING FORWARD. RIGHT. YOU HAD SOMETHING, MR. RUSSO, REAL QUICK. SO YOU MENTIONED THE RAINFALL. INDICATED FLOODING IN THE DIFFERENT SPECIFIC AREAS. AND AND YOU ALSO RECOMMENDED RAISING BUILDINGS ABOVE SEA LEVEL, EVEN FURTHER ABOVE SEA LEVEL IS AM I CORRECT ON THAT ASSUMPTION? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A SPECIFIC. SO IN THE FUTURE, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU LOOK AT DOING IN AREAS THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE REPETITIVE LOSSES OR THERE'S SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS BASED ON EITHER THE COASTAL FLOODING OR IF THERE'S NUISANCE FLOODING. AGAIN, IT'S A VALUE JUDGMENT ON, ON WHAT YOU DETERMINE IS, IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IN TERMS OF CRITICAL FACILITIES IN THE FUTURE. AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED FAY, AND I WAS LOOKING IT UP AS, AS YOU MENTIONED IT BEFORE, 2008, THAT WAS A STORM THAT JUST SAT ON TOP OF US FOR LIKE 48, 56 HOURS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IT BLEW YOUR MODEL APART, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING TO CONSIDER ALONG THAT ON THAT PART. I'D LIKE TO HEAR RECOMMENDATIONS, THOUGH, FROM YOUR EXPERTISE I LIVE BESIDE, AND WE HAVE 6000 RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE THAT LIVE BEACHSIDE. 
          WE HAVE 1100 IN INDIALANTIC, 1200 IN INDIAN HARBOR BEACH, ABOUT 2000 IN SATELLITE BEACH, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. UNINCORPORATED IS ABOUT ANOTHER 3000 BETWEEN THE CAUSEWAYS AND JUST ABOVE AND A LITTLE BIT BELOW. SO OUR CHALLENGE ALSO IS WATER. SO WHEN DO WE TURN THE WATER OFF TO THE, TO THE, TO THE BEACHSIDE, AND WHEN DO WE GET EVERYTHING FLOWING OVER? SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, HOW DO WE EMBRACE THAT? HOW DO WE HELP DEVELOPERS AND NEW BUILDERS THAT BASED ON THIS INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, TO, TO INCORPORATE YOUR FINDINGS INTO THEIR BUILDING MODELS? YEAH. AND THE CITY MAY HAVE TO UPDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THAT MAY BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. THAT'S WHAT I DID. BUT I WANTED TO HEAR IT FROM YOU. RIGHT. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE MAY ALSO NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN THE CITY'S PURVIEW, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, FLOOD RESILIENT CODE IS, IS, IS ENAMORED WITH THE CONDO SITUATION, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM OFF THAT FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, BUT OKAY, YOU GAVE ME MY ANSWER AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMATION. ABSOLUTELY, MAYOR. 
          SO WE HAVE INFORMATION HERE. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, AS I AS I'M LISTENING TO THIS IS WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? I'VE HEARD A FEW SUGGESTIONS, A FEW THINGS I HAVEN'T REALLY, AND I DIDN'T REALLY SEE SORT OF A EITHER A BIG PICTURE ACTION PLAN OR EVEN SOMETHING THAT WAS SORT OF DOWN TO SAY, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION BECOMES, HOW DO WE MAKE OUR RESIDENTS EITHER MORE AWARE OR HOW DO WE PREPARE THEM? BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPEN AGAIN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOO MUCH THAT COULD TRULY BE DONE. BUT I THINK THAT PREPARING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THIS. BUT IS ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO MAKE OUR RESIDENTS EITHER MORE AWARE OR MORE PREPARED? ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS WAS KIND OF LIKE THE DATA SIDE OF THE PLAN. BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE A RESILIENCY PLAN IN PLACE. 
          AND, AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE. SO WE, WE JUST UPDATED THE, THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT SO THAT WE COULD THEN UNLOCK THAT POOL OF MONEY WITH THE STATE. 
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SO YOU CAN IMPLEMENT YOUR RESILIENCY PLAN, WHICH WE, WE ALREADY HAD IN PLACE. THAT'S THE, THE PLAN THAT WE DEVELOPED IN 2021. SO IT HAS THOSE STRATEGIES. IT HAS RECOMMENDATIONS TO KIND OF DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO UNDERSTANDING SPECIFICALLY WHICH THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF TAKE BITES OUT OF. YOU KNOW, IT'S A PLAN. SO IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN IT. SO I WAS ELECTED IN 2024. SO APPARENTLY I'M NOT AWARE OF THE 2021 PLAN. YEAH, I THINK IT WAS INCLUDED IN IT WASN'T IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, BUT WE INCLUDED IT UNDER SEPARATE COVER BECAUSE IT WAS SO LARGE, WE COULDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE. SO THAT WAS JUST SENT TO YOU WITHIN THE LAST WEEK, CORRECT? YEAH. STILL WITH THAT? I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, RIGHT? SO YOU STILL NEED TO SORT OF BITE SIZE OR CLIFFSNOTES OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S REALLY NOT JUST POINTING AT YOU. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF FOR ALL OF US TO SORT OF SAY, YEAH, JUST GIVE US A ROADMAP OF SORTS. RIGHT. AND I DON'T THINK, MAYOR. 
          YES, SIR. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THESE QUESTIONS AREN'T BEING ASKED ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER, THE OHIO RIVER, COLORADO RIVER, THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA, THE COAST OF NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA, NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA. I GAVE THEM THE WHOLE THE WHOLE STATE. BUT. 
          ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO WE AS A NATION, YOU KNOW, ARE FACING THESE CHALLENGES BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY BARRIER ISLANDS, INCLUDING UP INTO NORTH CAROLINA, SOUTH CAROLINA, MANY BARRIER ISLANDS ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN COAST AS WELL, TOO. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY FORUM OR A NATIONAL KIND OF THING THAT YOU ALL BELONG TO. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF ANSWERS COME FROM COLLABORATING WITH YOUR FELLOW, YOUR FELLOW YOUTHS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02. YEAH. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON REAL QUICK. WHAT I'M GOING TO ALSO DO THE ITEM EIGHT COMING UP. BUT I'M GOING TO SLIDE A AN ITEM. WE'LL DO EIGHT REAL QUICK. AND THEN I'M GOING TO SLIDE ITEM 16 UP THE THE REQUEST AFTER EIGHT. SO. MISS DITTMAR STILL HERE I THINK. 
          [8. Task Order No. CHA 2025-002 to the Continuing Contract for Professional Water and Wastewater Hydraulic Modeling and Permitting Consulting Services for the Lead and Copper Rule Improvements - Phase III: Schools and Childcare Sampling, CHA Consulting, Inc., Winter Springs, FL - $175,070.]
OKAY, SO WE'LL START OUT WITH NUMBER EIGHT. THIS WOULD BE JENNIFER SPAGNOLI. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, THIS IS A TASK ORDER WITH CHA FOR LEAD AND COPPER RULE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THIS IS PHASE THREE, WHICH IS THE SCHOOLS AND CHILD CARE SAMPLING AND WOULD ALSO BE A REQUIRED UNFUNDED MANDATE IN 2025. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CHA FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW TO DO OUR. LOOKING FOR OUR LEAD SERVICE LINES, PUTTING THEM ON A MAP, A MAP THAT THE PUBLIC CAN VIEW. AND AS WE CLEAR THEM, OR WE FIND OUT WHAT THE MATERIALS ARE ON THE CITY SIDE OR ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE, WHICH WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO. WE UPDATE THE MAPS AND THEN RIGHT AROUND EVERY OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WE'RE SENDING OUT NOTIFICATIONS OF WHO HAS UNKNOWN STILL. AND WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY LEAD SERVICE LINES IN OUR SYSTEM. ONE OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS SAMPLING OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, CHARTER SCHOOLS, DAYCARE FACILITIES. AND SO THIS IS TO HAVE CHA HELP US WITH THAT. THEY'VE DONE IT FOR OTHER CITIES AND COMMUNITIES, AND THAT WAY WE CAN GET THEM ALL BASICALLY CLEARED. AND WE HAVE FIVE YEARS TO DO IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO 84 FACILITIES EACH YEAR AND GET IT DONE WITHIN TWO YEAR TIME FRAME. 
          WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO GET IN WHEN THE CITY, WHEN THERE'S NO STUDENTS IN THE BUILDING, BECAUSE FOR THIS PROGRAM, THE WATER, YOU CAN'T USE THE WATER WITHIN, I THINK, 24 HOURS BEFORE IT HAS TO SIT IN THE LINE. SO NOBODY CAN USE THE FAUCETS OR THE THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY SAMPLE. SO CAN'T REALLY BE OCCUPIED ON A REGULAR SCHOOL BUSINESS DAY. SO THE, THE SCOPE INCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATION, DEVELOPMENT OF SAMPLE PLANS, SAMPLING COORDINATION AND COLLECTION, THE TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM AND THE REGULATORY REPORTING AND FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN OUR OPERATING ACCOUNT FOR PUBLIC 
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WORKS AND UTILITIES ADMINISTRATION CONSULTING FEES. WE DO HAVE AN SRF LOAN THAT IS 50% REIMBURSABLE BACK TO US, AND THAT WAS $2 MILLION. HOWEVER, YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR THE SCHOOLS OR SAMPLING OF ANY OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO THIS IS ALL ON THE UTILITIES FUNDS, HENCE THE UNFUNDED MANDATE. YES. SO REQUESTING APPROVAL OF CHA2025002 IN THE AMOUNT OF $175,070. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION, MAYOR. GOOD. OKAY. MOTION FOR GOOD. MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER CHA2025-002 TO CHA CONSULTING INC OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA, FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR PHASE THREE OF THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $175,070. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. DAVID. 
          [9. Lift Station No. 38 Force Main Replacement, Project No. 32113.]
DISAPPOINTMENTS AS WELL. LET'S START OUT ITEM NUMBER NINE. ITEM. THIS IS FOR LIFT STATION 38, FORCE MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT. AND LIFT STATION 38 IS ON NASA BOULEVARD. IT IS JUST EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THERE'S A LITTLE TINY BUILDING THAT I THINK IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE PORSCHE DEALERSHIP. THERE'S USUALLY CARS PARKED ALL AROUND IT, AND SO WASTEWATER FLOWS TO THE STATION, AND THEN THE STATION PUMPS THAT TO THE WEST TO A MANHOLE CLOSER TO BABCOCK. 
          AND OR IS IT HICKORY, NASA AND APOLLO? SO IT'S OLD CAST IRON FORCE MAIN. AND BACK IN 2023, WE HAD HIRED A YOUNG COMMUNICATION WACOM TO REPLACE IT FOR US. HOWEVER, OUR PERMIT UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS HAD EXPIRED FOR THE JACK AND BORE. BY THE TIME WE GOT THERE AND AFTER THE BRIGHTLINE CAME THROUGH, THEY CHANGED THE RULE AND OUR DESIGN AND PERMIT WAS NO LONGER VALID. AND SO WE'VE REDESIGNED IT AND WE'VE HAD A PERMIT SITTING FOR THE LAST YEAR WAITING FOR APPROVAL, WHICH WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION BACK. SO OUR OPERATIONS STAFF TRIED A DIFFERENT ROUTE AND LOOKED AT WHETHER WE COULD GO IN AND LINE THE PIPE INSTEAD, AND THEN REPLACE WHAT'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET A MAINTENANCE PERMIT TO DO THAT, WHICH ALSO HELPS IN THE SENSE THAT EVERY TIME WE PUT A CASING PIPE UNDER THE RAILROAD, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN PERPETUITY EVERY YEAR, EVERY SINGLE ONE. SO IF WE ABANDON ONE AND BUILD ANOTHER, WE PAY FOR TWO. SO THIS IN THAT SENSE WILL BE A GOOD THING. SO WE PLAN TO LINE THE PIPE THAT'S UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THEY'LL GO FROM OUTSIDE THE RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY TO OUTSIDE THE RAILROAD, RIGHT OF WAY ON THE WEST SIDE. WHITCOMB WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT WORK ALREADY. AND SO THEN CONCURRENT, WHICH IS A CONTRACTOR WE HAVE ON STAFF OR WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH RIGHT NOW, WE'LL COMPLETE THE REST OF THE WORK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACKS AND MAKE THE CONNECTIONS TO THE PIPE ON BOTH SIDES, BECAUSE THE LINING COMPANY BASICALLY JUST DOES LINING. THEY DON'T DIG UP IN THE ROAD, THEY DON'T RESTORE ANYTHING. THEY JUST DO THEIR PART. SO THE OTHER CONTRACTOR WILL COMPLETE THE REST OF THE WORK PIPE REPLACEMENT AND A RESTORATION. SO THE REQUEST IS FOR THERE'S AN A B ONES TO UTILIZE THE CITY'S HORIZONTAL DIRECTIONAL DRILLING CONTRACT WITH CONCURRENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $231,907.22, AND THEN B IS TO UTILIZE THE CITY'S TRENCHLESS REHAB AND MAINTENANCE PIPELINE CONTRACT WITH INSITU FORM TECHNOLOGIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $99,050, AND THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING SINCE AT LEAST 2020. SO 2013. I WILL BE HAPPY IF THIS. IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR US FOR WELL, THIS IS SECOND, THIS IS ONE THAT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO KEEP YOU UP AT NIGHT. IF YOU KNOW, IF THE OLD PIPE WERE TO BREAK. OKAY. WHAT KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT? YES. WHAT KEEPS ME. IF I CAN. I'M JUST VERY HAPPY THAT STAFF CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR THIS. I KNOW THE PERMITTING ON THIS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT THE ENTIRE TIME OF THE PROJECT. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING SOMEWHERE, WE THEN RAN ENCOUNTERED INTO PROBLEMS. AND 
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SO WE HEAR OF OTHER PEOPLE ENCOUNTERING IT, ENCOUNTERING PROBLEMS WE OURSELVES ENCOUNTER, PERMITTING ISSUES. AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THIS PROJECT IS IS LIKE, I'D LOVE TO CLOSE OUT THIS PROJECT TO 2013. I THINK IT'S 2013. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S A LONG TIME. BUT THIS IS ENGINEERING TALK. YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW THEY, YOU KNOW, TALK TO EACH OTHER. THIS WAS A HAROLD HAND OFF WHEN HE RETIRED. HAROLD NANCE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS MAYOR MR. NEWMAN. AND I WILL SAY BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION, I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THIS ONE TOO. AND THAT'S A TOUGH INTERSECTION JUST IN GENERAL. IT'S A VERY, VERY BUSY ONE IN DISTRICT THREE TOO, SO I'M SURE I'M GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT. BUT FOR ALL GOOD THINGS ANYWAY, MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL TO UTILIZE THE CITY'S HORIZONTAL DIRECTIONAL DRILLING SERVICES CONTRACT. 
          ITB-B25011-12025/ DM WITH CONCURRENT ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, LLC, ROCKLEDGE, FLORIDA IN THE AMOUNT OF $231,907.22. SECOND MOTION BY MR. NEWMAN, SECOND BY MISS BASSETT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? VOTE ON THE MOTION PASSES. B MAYOR, GO AHEAD. APPROVAL TO UTILIZE THE CITY'S TRENCHLESS REHABILITATION AND MAINTENANCE OF PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE. CONTRACT NUMBER 23-065-PW WITH IN-SITU IN-SITU FORM TECHNOLOGIES, LLC, CHESTERFIELD, MISSOURI IN THE AMOUNT OF $99,050. DO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BASSETT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION 
          [16. Subdivision Variance Request (SDV2026-0001) Mosswood Townhomes: (Public Hearing) A request to allow the Mosswood Townhomes development to be considered to conform with the City Subdivision Code without platting through the subdivision process on a 5.4±-acre parcel zoned R-2 (cap of 6.4 units per acre) and R-2 (cap of 8.5 units per acre) (One, Two and Multiple-Family Dwelling Medium Density District).  The property has a Medium Density Future Land Use and is located on the east side of Mosswood Drive, south of Aurora Road and north of Cannon Street, in Council District 2. (Applicant/Representative - Kim Rezanka) (P & Z Board 7/16/2026)]
PASSES. WE'RE GOING TO SLIDE UP TO NUMBER 16. THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT ON. THIS WOULD BE MISS CINDY DITTMAR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CINDY DITTMAR, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE FROM APPENDIX D, CHAPTER EIGHT, OUR SUBDIVISION CODE TO ALLOW THE MOSSWOOD TOWNHOME SUBDIVISION OR I'M SORRY, NOT SUBDIVISION THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSIDERED CONFORMING WITH CITY SUBDIVISION CODE WITHOUT ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION PROCESS. THE PROPERTIES OF 5.4 ACRE PROPERTY ZONED R TWO WITH A DENSITY. TWO DIFFERENT DENSITIES OF 6.4 UNITS AN ACRE AND 8.5 UNITS PER ACRE. ON TWO OF THE DIFFERENT PARCELS, THEY HAVE A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE, LAND USE, AND IT IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. SO GOING WAY BACK, THERE'S A TIMELINE IN CITY COUNCIL STAFF MEMORANDUM. THIS PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED AS A TWO PHASE PROJECT BACK IN 1995 AND 1998. THE PLAN WAS APPROVED AS A SITE PLAN FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS NOT WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING. THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES WERE BUILT OUT DURING THAT TIME. THERE WERE TWO VACANT PARCELS. IT'S SORT OF HARD TO SEE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S MAYBE EASIER. ON THE VERY NORTH END THERE, THERE WERE TWO AREAS THAT WERE NOT BUILT OUT THAT HAVE ROOM FOR ANOTHER 12 UNITS IN 2019. THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK IN, GOING THROUGH TO GET BUILDING PERMITS. AND CITY STAFF REALIZED THAT THESE THESE UNITS HAD ACTUALLY BEEN SUBDIVIDED WITH METES AND BOUNDS LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS THAT ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH OUR SUBDIVISION CODE. SO WE STARTED AT THAT TIME WORKING WITH THEM AND GETTING THIS CORRECTED. AND WE WORKED WITH THE OWNERS FOR SIX YEARS NOW, I GUESS IT'S BEEN. AND BACK IN 2021, THEY CAME THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, COUNCIL APPROVED A PRELIMINARY PLAT. THEY TOOK ALL THE STEPS NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. THEY ALSO RECEIVED SUBDIVISION SUBDIVISION VARIANCES AT THAT POINT, ALONG WITH VARIANCES FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, ALL TO TRY TO MEET OUR SUBDIVISION PLANNING REQUIREMENTS AND THE STEPS THAT WERE REQUIRED THERE. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THEY PROCEEDED TO THE FINAL PLAT PROCESS AND THEY GOT TO THE STEP OF NEEDING NOT ONLY ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SIGN OFF ON THE FINAL PLAT, BUT ALSO ALL THE MORTGAGEES ON ALL OF THE 30, 28 LOTS THAT ARE IN THERE. THERE WERE SOME OF THE MORTGAGEES THAT REFUSED TO SIGN OR IGNORED THE REQUEST. SO THAT LEAVES THE PROJECT IN THE DILEMMA. THEY APPLICANT MET WITH STAFF AGAIN ABOUT ANY OTHER OPTIONS. THE ONLY OPTION THAT YOU KNOW, WE COLLECTIVELY COULD COME UP WITH WAS SEEKING THIS SUBDIVISION VARIANCE TO BASICALLY ALLOW WHAT IS EXISTING TO, TO REMAIN AND BE LEGAL AND CONFORMING. SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE REQUEST THAT COUNCIL HAS BEFORE THEM. THIS EVENING, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THEIR SUBDIVISION 
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VARIANCE REQUEST. THERE'S FIVE CRITERIA THAT ARE DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS RESPONDED TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS. STAFF HAS ANALYZED THE REQUEST AND FOUND THAT THE SUBDIVISION VARIANCE WILL ALLOW THE EXISTING LOTS, AS WELL AS THE 12 FUTURE LOTS, TO ACTUALLY BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL APPROVED CONSTRUCTION PLANS FROM THE EARLY 2000, ALONG WITH CONTINUING TO MEET THE SUBDIVISION VARIANCES AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS VARIANCES THAT WERE RECEIVED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. SO THOSE WILL ALL BE CONTINUE TO BE MET. THE 12 UNDEVELOPED LOTS, THEY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO WATER, SEWER AND THE DRIVEWAY ROADWAY NETWORK. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER IN ANALYZING THIS TO DETERMINE WHETHER STAFF WOULD WANT TO RECOMMEND A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE OF THIS NATURE TO NOT PLAT. ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S ALREADY A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT'S ESTABLISHED THAT IS THERE AND IN PLACE TO HANDLE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS, PARTICULARLY STORMWATER, BUT THE SHARED DRIVE ACCESS AND ALL OF THAT THAT'S IN PLACE. SO IN A LOT OF RESPECTS, IT'S SOMEWHAT ALREADY SET UP AS A SUBDIVISION. IT'S JUST NOT ABLE TO BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF COOPERATION AND THE SIGNING OFF ON THE FINAL PLAT THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET TO THAT STEP. THE STAFF HAS ALSO CONSIDERED THE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT, ALONG WITH THE MEDIUM DENSITY FUTURE LAND USE. SO NOTHING IN THAT REGARD IS BEING AFFECTED. THE ONLY STAFF CONCERN THAT WE HAD, AND WE'VE HAD THIS SINCE BACK IN 21 WHEN THEY DID THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, IS THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS. THEY ARE NARROWER THAN A ROADWAY WOULD BE REQUIRED IN A NORMAL SUBDIVISION. WE CONDITION THIS BACK WITH THE PLAT. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE CONDITION THAT WE JUST HAVE THEM PLACE SIGNAGE SO THAT CARS ARE NOT PARKING ALONG THE DRIVEWAY, BLOCKING ACCESS, NOT ALLOWING, WHETHER IT'S EMERGENCY VEHICLES OR LARGE DELIVERY TRUCKS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO STILL ACCESS THAT. SO WITH THAT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID RECOMMEND UNANIMOUSLY APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SDV2026-0001 BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MAYOR? I GOT ONE QUESTION, MR. LEWIS. SO GOOD. SO IN YOUR MEMO, IT SAYS UNFORTUNATELY, THE FINAL PLAT WAS NOT ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AS MULTIPLE MORTGAGEES WOULD NOT SIGN OFF ON THE CREATION OF THE PLAT. SO THIS IS A WORKAROUND. IT IS. 
          AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ALL ON BOARD, BUT THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT. RIGHT. AND I CAN LET THE THE APPLICANT DESCRIBE IT MORE THOROUGHLY. BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOME OF THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES WOULDN'T EVEN RESPOND TO THE REQUEST ON THE SIGN OFF, SO THEY WOULD NOT RESPOND. AGAIN, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT DESCRIBE THAT IN MORE DETAIL, BUT THAT THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING. AND THAT'S SORT OF THE THE WALL THAT THEY RAN INTO IN TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE FINAL PLAT. WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO ON THE WITH THE NEW PLAT, THEY WOULD GO RATHER COMING IN OUT OF MOSSWOOD. THEY WOULD COME OUT OF NOT OUT OF. STEWART, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. YOU ALREADY KNOW MY QUESTION. YES. SO NOTHING IS PHYSICALLY CHANGING. NOBODY IS GOING TO NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE OUT THERE TOMORROW. SO THEY'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THAT LITTLE PIECE THAT. SO THEY'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE JUST THE ONE OR I GUESS THE TWO ACCESS POINTS ONTO MOSSWOOD AT THE NORTH AND SOUTH ENDS THERE. NOTHING. AND SO WE'RE NOT PLATTING WE'RE COUNCIL WOULD BE GIVING A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE TO NOT PLAT TO BASICALLY ALLOW. SO TO, TO BASICALLY ALLOW THE, THE PROPERTY TO CONTINUE AS IS WITH THE METES AND BOUNDS SUBDIVIDING OF THE LAND AS THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN BEEN DONE. SO IT'S NOT CHANGING ANYTHING PHYSICALLY AT ALL. OKAY. I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THEY HAD ACCESS TO THE COUNCIL. COUNCIL MONITORS HAVE GONE DOWN. OKAY. 
          SORRY TO INTERRUPT, MAYOR. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. SO, I MEAN, I DRIVE BY THESE LIKE ALL THE TIME AND THEY'RE VERY NICE ACTUALLY. BUT ORIGINALLY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MULTIFAMILY. 
          DOES THAT MEAN APARTMENT? CORRECT. ORIGINALLY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MULTIFAMILY WITH THE LAND UNDER SINGLE OWNERSHIP. AND SO BECAUSE THEY WERE DESIGNED IN SORT OF A TOWNHOME FASHION, THE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS, OWNERS SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY THEN SUBDIVIDED 
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THE LAND IF THEY WOULD HAVE CREATED MORE OF A CONDOMINIUM TYPE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY DIDN'T SUBDIVIDE THE UNDERLYING LAND AND THAT UNDERLYING LAND STAYED WITHIN A CONDO ASSOCIATION, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY. BUT BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY SUBDIVIDED THE UNDERLYING LAND, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM CAME. SO THEN I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE DON'T THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH PERMITS AND OR IS THAT JUST IN THE SALE OF THE HOUSE? THAT KIND OF HAPPENS. IT HAPPENS AFTER THE FACT. AND THEN STAFF USUALLY, AND AS WE DID IN THIS ONE, THEN WHEN THEY CAME BACK IN TO DO THE LAST TWO AREAS, WHEN WE LOOKED UP THE PROPERTY APPRAISER INFORMATION AND SAW, WAIT, THESE WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, ONE WHOLE PARCEL HAD NOW BEEN SUBDIVIDED. YOU CAN, YOU CAN SORT OF SEE IT ON THE GRAPHIC THERE. YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHO SUBDIVIDED IT. 
          THE DEVELOPER. MOST. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW FOR SURE. I KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED SOMEWHERE IN THE EARLY 2000 ISH BEGINNING. AND PART OF MY REASON FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION IS, NUMBER ONE, TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED, TO NOT HAVE IT HAPPEN AGAIN AND PUT SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE. SO UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, IF YOU WALK IN TOMORROW AND WANT TO SUBDIVIDE A PARCEL INTO 82 PIECES, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER ACCEPTS THAT REQUEST AND DOES IT, AND THEY DO NOT, YOU KNOW, CONTACT THE CITY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY REVIEW OF IT. SO THAT'S WHY IT HAPPENS IS THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE PROCESS WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO SUBDIVIDE, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE CREATE NEW LOTS. AND SO THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS WHERE THIS HAS HAPPENED, AND THEN WE'VE GONE BACK THE SAME WAY AND TRIED TO WORK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WITH AND USUALLY IT'S MULTIPLE OWNERS. AND AT THAT POINT, SO YOU'RE WORKING WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE, GETTING THEM ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT THE REMEDY IS AND THEN TAKING THEM THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS ALTOGETHER. SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THIS IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BUILD THOSE EXTRA 12. REALLY? CORRECT. I DON'T THINK THIS CAN BE PREVENTED IN THE FUTURE. YEAH. THE ONLY THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN SEE WOULD BE LIKE, IS THERE ANY RAMIFICATIONS TO THE DEVELOPER FOR DOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE? WE HAVE A SPEAKER. I MEAN, SHE'LL BE A SECOND WHEN YOU WANT TO GO AND BRING HER UP. SURE. OKAY. OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. INGA. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MISS KENNEDY, MY NAME IS KIM REZANKA WITH LACEY REZANKA IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEMO. 
          IT HAD ALL OF THEM LISTED. THERE ARE 27 DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND AN HOA, AN HOA INVOLVED AS WELL. SO ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS WHAT I KNOW THIS ACTUALLY STARTED BACK. I HAVE THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED. I'M SURE THE CITY HAS THEM AS WELL. GOING BACK TO 1995, IT WAS MODIFIED IN 1996. BUILDING PERMITS WERE ISSUED IN 1998. 
          BUILDINGS WERE BUILT IN 1998. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE, THEY STARTED BEING TRANSFERRED OUT IN 1998. IT'S JUST THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKED BACK THEN. I THINK NOW WHEN PEOPLE COME IN FOR PERMITS, IT GOES THROUGH ZONING AS WELL. SO I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. THIS EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED WITH RIVERWALK TOWNHOMES NEXT TO O'GALLEY HIGH SCHOOL, AND I WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT PROCESS. 
          THAT PROCESS WAS EASIER. THERE'S ONLY TWO LENDERS, AND NOT EVERYONE, NOT ALL THE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT. NOT EVERYONE WAS LIVING THERE. HERE WE HAVE 28 NON-CONFORMING BUILDINGS. WE STARTED THIS PROCESS ACTUALLY BACK IN 2017, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THIS PROBLEM, STARTED DOING THE PLANNING PROCESS, GOT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON BOARD. AND DESPITE THE FACT THESE ARE NON-CONFORMING, THE LENDERS DIDN'T CARE. AND THE THE TITLE COMPANIES DIDN'T CARE AND THEY KEPT TRANSFERRING. SO WE KEPT HAVING TO GET NEW JOINERS. SO WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR A WHILE. I'VE BEEN WORKING INITIALLY MOSSWOOD HOMES OF MELBOURNE, INC. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT OWN THE 12 UNDEVELOPED. THEY WERE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. WHAT HAPPENED IS WHY THIS STOPPED BEING DEVELOPED IS THE ACTUAL BUILDER DIED. SO THAT'S WHY THIS SAT VACANT FOR A WHILE. 
          THEY CAME BACK, THEY STARTED WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS, FOUND OUT THERE'S A PROBLEM. SO I GOT THE HEED TO TO MORE. THE ENGINEER DREW POST-HOC THE SURVEYOR. WE DID THE RIVERWALK TOWNHOME PROJECT. WE STARTED GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS SO WE COULD PLACE BLAME. I THINK 
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THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS WOULD HAVE RUN AT THIS POINT. IT'S BEEN SO LONG AGO. ALL OF THESE WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE DECLARATION OF CONDOMINIUM DECLARATION OF COVENANTS THAT WAS RECORDED IN 1998. ALL OF THESE UNITS, BY METES AND BOUNDS, WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM. SO WHEN WE HAVE CONFORMING UNITS THAT EXIST, AND THEN THE OTHER 12 UNITS CAN BE BOUGHT AND CAN BE SOLD FOR TOWNHOME PROJECTS. SO I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THESE THAT HAPPENED BACK IN THIS TIME FRAME IN THE EARLY 1990S. I DON'T THINK YOUR CITY WOULD HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN. I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS WHEN PERMITTING HAPPENS NOW. SO MY REQUEST IS THAT WE DO GO FORWARD. YOU DO APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION VARIANCE, AS STAFF AND PNC HAVE REQUESTED, AND THAT WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN. WE HAD 12 LENDERS. ONE RESPONDED. WE TRIED FOR THREE YEARS. IT WAS SALLIE MAE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. AND THEN THEY SAID, WELL, WE NEED EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS AS WELL. AND IT WAS TOO ONEROUS. WE COULDN'T SEND IT ALL TO THEM, SO THEY JUST DIDN'T RESPOND. THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. YOU SEND A LETTER TO A BANK, IT GOES UP THE CHAIN, IT MIGHT LAND ON SOMEONE'S DESK. AND WE JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO GET ANY JOINERS TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH RIVERWALK BECAUSE WE HAD TWO LENDERS AND THAT WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO. SO WITH THAT, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THE MCCURDYS ARE HERE, THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED. BUT BUT AGAIN, THIS IS TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM, NOT TRYING TO PLACE BLAME. AND IT'S IT'S FOR ALL OF THE 40 UNITS, NOT JUST THESE 12. I'D HATE FOR ALL OF THESE RESIDENTS TO. NOT CONFORM WHEN THEY'RE WILLING TO CONFORM BECAUSE OF SOMETHING SOMEBODY ELSE DID. THAT'S WHERE I STAND RIGHT NOW. 
          GOOD TO MAKE THE MOTION. I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH THEM. OH YEAH. WE HAVE NO OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS. AND IF WE'RE DONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE. THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC HEARING VICE MAYOR. YEP. 
          I'M GETTING TO IT. MY THE THING WENT DOWN AND THE CONDITION IS ACCEPTABLE. THE HOA WILL ABIDE BY THAT CONDITION. I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF CV 2026-0001. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. SECOND OF A MOTION, A SECOND BY MR. SMITH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE 
          [10. CONSENT AGENDA:]
BACK TO ITEM TEN, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM A THROUGH G. NOTHING HAS BEEN PULLED. A WAS PULLED A ME. OKAY THAT'S FINE. AND ITEM ITEM B THROUGH G. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT. MAYOR GO AHEAD. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA B THROUGH G. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS GOING 
          [11. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA]
TO BE A. SO GO AHEAD MA'AM. THE REASON WHY I PULLED THAT ONE IS AFTER GOING TO THE LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCES AND ALL THAT. AND TREASURE ISLAND TALKED ABOUT THIS. THEY THEY, THEY TESTED ALL THEIR GENERATORS ONLY FOR 15 MINUTES. AND THEN WHEN THE TIME CAME, THEY WEREN'T, THEY COULD NOT HANDLE ANYTHING BUT 15 MINUTES BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY WERE, THEY HAD DONE AND THEY WEREN'T. THERE WERE NO PRESSURE ON IT. SO THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS FROM TREASURE ISLAND SAID, DO IT LONGER THAN 15 MINUTES. THAT WAS ONE OF HIS. 
          AND PUT PRESSURE ON HIM BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY FOUND OUT WHEN THEY REALLY NEEDED THEM. I THINK HALF OF THEM OR MORE DID NOT WORK AFTER MAYBE AN HOUR OR SO. SO THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING, IS THAT WE DO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES ON THOSE GENERATORS. OKAY. ALL THE PERMANENT GENERATORS RUN AN HOUR A WEEK ON A TIMER UNDER THE FULL LOAD. I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR GENERATORS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PORTABLES THAT WERE JUST SITTING SOMEWHERE. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW EITHER, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY LOST EVERYTHING. 
          THEY LOST SO MUCH THAT I, THEY WERE REALLY. AND HE JUST WAS SO JUST PUSHED THAT IN AT THE CONFERENCE ABOUT THAT SITUATION. SO THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. OKAY. SO GOOD. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A MAYOR I PUT ON MOTION. THE CONTRACT AWARDED TO SMALL GENERATOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SERVICES. CJS SALES AND SERVICE OF OCALA OCALA INC, OCALA, FLORIDA. 
          ESTIMATE AND AMOUNT OF 93,500 AND THE ESTIMATED CONTRACT OF $561,000. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND BY MR. BASSETT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, 
          [12. Resolution No. 4432: A resolution to adopt an annual Stormwater Utility Budget for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2026, in the amount of $3,195,000.]
AND MOTION PASSES. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12. THIS IS GOING TO BE A REPORT ON THIS, MR. ERNEST. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT A ANNUAL 
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STORMWATER UTILITY BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, AND THE AMOUNT OF $3,195,000 PER CITY CODE, SECTION 50-18D COUNCIL SHALL ADOPT A BUDGET FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. START FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE ENSUING CITY FISCAL YEAR ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 15TH OF EACH YEAR. THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS DISCUSSED BY COUNCIL AT THE JULY 29TH, 2026 SPECIAL MEETING AND IS BASED ON A STORMWATER ASSESSMENT RATE OF $44 PER EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT. THE AGENDA MATERIALS PROVIDE THE DETAILS ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, CAPITAL OUTLAY, OPERATING COSTS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. THIS CREATES THE FISCAL YEAR 2627 STORMWATER UTILITY BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,195,000, AND WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4432. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR. GO AHEAD SIR. WHAT IS THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT RATE PER EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT? $44 PER UNIT OR PER EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT, SIR. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT CHANGING. IT HAS NOT CHANGED. 
          WE'LL BE LOOKING TO DO A STORMWATER UTILITY RATE STUDY LATER THIS YEAR. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WILL BE LIKELY MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR A NEW RATE. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RATE INCREASES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTION? MAYOR? GO AHEAD. RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND RESOLUTION FOR NUMBER 4432. AND I'LL SECOND THAT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED. VOTE AYE. MOTION PASSES. WE'LL REPORT FOR ITEM 
          [13. Resolution No. 4427: (Public Hearing) A resolution authorizing the disposition of real property located at 695 University Boulevard to Macedonia Community Development Corporation of South Brevard; approving the Purchase and Sale Agreement.]
NUMBER 13 WILL BE REBECCA. HOW YOU DOING? HELLO. GOOD EVENING. THIS ITEM IS FOR. SORRY. 
          REBECCA TBR, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. THIS ITEM IS FOR THE DISPOSITION OF OUR PROPERTY. 
          LOCATED AT 695 EAST UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD. SO IF YOU RECALL, BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2026, WE PUBLISHED A REQUEST FOR LETTERS OF INTENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY. WE RECEIVED FIVE OFFERS FOR THE PROPERTY. CITY COUNCIL REVIEWED REVIEWED THOSE AT THE APRIL 14TH, 2026 MEETING, AND YOU SELECTED THE OFFER FROM MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF SOUTH BREVARD FOR $300,000. THAT IS, TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY FOR A CENTRALIZED WORKFORCE AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HUB FOR THE CDC, ADMINISTRATIVE AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICES, WHICH IS THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM. THEIR STEM PROGRAM AND THEIR JOB TRAINING AND EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM. SO AFTER THAT COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WORKED TOGETHER ON THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE WITH MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THIS AGREEMENT DOES INCLUDE A DEED RESTRICTION FOR TEN YEARS, WHICH REQUIRES FOR THE PROPERTY TO CONTINUE TO BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE. THAT WAS IN THE THE REQUEST FOR LETTER OF INTENT. SO THEY WILL HAVE TO KEEP IT WITH THAT SAME USE FOR THAT ADMINISTRATIVE USE FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM IN THEIR THEIR ENGINEERING AND STEM YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND JOB TRAINING PROGRAM. SO WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE. MR. PHILLIPS HAS PATIENTLY BEEN WAITING ALL NIGHT. WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HERE THIS EVENING, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4427 FOR DISPOSITION OF THE PROPERTY, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? I DID THAT FAST. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL. 
          MR. PHILLIPS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR ARE YOU JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS? IT'S YOUR TIME. TAKE IT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JERRY PHILLIPS WITH MACEDONIA COMMUNITY CORPORATION. AS YOU'RE AWARE OF. I JUST WANT TO SAY A THANK YOU. AS A MATTER OF FACT, TO THE COUNCIL MAYOR AND IN PARTICULAR TO THE CITY MANAGER AND HER STAFF FOR ALL THE THINGS THEY'VE DONE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TO UTILIZE THAT BUILDING, AS A MATTER OF FACT, TO UPLIFT THE COMMUNITY. AS YOU AS WE SAID IN OUR APPLICATION, WE INTEND TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING ALREADY. WE PRIMARILY BUILD HOUSES FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES. THAT WOULD BE OUR MAJOR FOCUS. BUT TO THIS POINT, WE HAVE ALREADY A TRAINED IN ALSO PROVIDED JOB WELL, FINE JOB FOR 400. INDIVIDUALS IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. WE WANT TO IMPROVE THAT TOO. WE WORK WITH THE STEM PROGRAM WITH OUR YOUTH. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THAT. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH OUR SENIOR CITIZENS AND HELP THEM TO, AS I'M ONE OF THOSE, I TURN 87 
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LAST MONTH, SO I KNOW I DON'T ALWAYS KEEP UP WHAT'S GOING ON EITHER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEM TO EXPECT WITH THIS AI, TO HELP THEM WITH THAT A LITTLE BETTER. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE USE OF THAT BUILDING. AND YOU'RE GOING TO I THINK YOU'LL BE VERY PLEASED WHEN YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AS TIME GO BY. I THINK WE, I BELIEVE MY MY PAST IS OVER. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY PASTOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. STAND UP, STAND UP, PLEASE. YOUR TIME. I WANT TO SAY THIS ABOUT HIM. YOU KNOW, HE HAD A PROGRAM TODAY. TONIGHT THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TO. 
          BUT HE TOOK OFF FROM THAT TO COME HERE TO BE TO REPRESENT US. AND I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. 
          AND STAFF. THE MEMBER THERE, YVONNE. THANK YVONNE. SO THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOU DONE FOR US IN THE PAST. WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND I ALSO HAVE A COMMENT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS GET TO THANK ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I REMEMBER THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS AND THE MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WAS HANDS DOWN THE RIGHT CHOICE, I THINK, FOR THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, THANKS TO YOUR PASTOR, THE CONGREGATION, THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE. AND I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU ALL ARE CONTINUING TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO MAYOR. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4427. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, 
          [14. **Distributed as a Blue Memo on 8/21/26** Ordinance No. 2026-31: (First Reading) An ordinance relating to the Firefighters' Pension Plan amending Contributions; Benefit amounts and eligibility; Pre-retirement death; Disability; Optional forms of benefits; Maximum pension; Minimum distribution of benefits; and Deferred retirement option plan.]
AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14. ON THIS. YEP. THERE THERE ARE COUNCIL. 
          THERE IS A BLUE MEMO ON THIS AS WELL. AND AS HE'S WALKING UP I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW HR DIRECTOR DEO PRASAD. AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO HIM. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR. 
          VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS, BEFORE YOU START, I GOTTA I GOTTA READ THE SHORT TITLE OF THE OF THE ORDINANCE. SORRY. OH. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S MY FAULT. SO THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-31, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA RELATING TO THE FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT SYSTEM. MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING CHAPTER 44 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED RETIREMENT AND PENSIONS AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION PLAN, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU, MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU SIR. GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR, COUNCIL, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IT IS A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU AS FIRST TIME COUNCIL, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AT THE CITY AS THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND MAKING SURE THAT HR IS A STRATEGIC PARTNER IN THE ORGANIZATION, BUT ALSO TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVES YOU HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU. SO IN FRONT OF YOU, WHAT YOU HAVE IS AN ACTUARY REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY OUR CONSULTANT, SGR GRS CONSULTING. PARDON ME. THERE ARE SEVERAL KEY INITIATIVES THAT THEY HAVE OUTLINED IN IT AS IT RELATES TO THE FIREFIGHTER PENSION, AND THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE SUPERVISORY AND THE NON-SUPERVISORY. SO IT'S A QUICK A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS FOR YOU THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PENSION. SO AS OUTLINED BY THE ACTUARY, IT ACTUALLY INCREASES THE ACTIVE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION FROM 7.5 TO 8%. IT ELIMINATES THE 6.56 FROM 7.5 TO 8%. AND IT ALSO ELIMINATES THE 6.5% CONTRIBUTION FROM DROUGHT MEMBERS. AND AMONG SOME OTHER THINGS, IT DOES, IT APPLIES THE STATE PREMIUM TAX DISTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE REQUIRED EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION. SO REALLY OVERALL, WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN TERMS OF COST. IT WOULD INCREASE THE OVERALL PROJECTED COST TO ABOUT $243,077, WHICH IS ABOUT 2.1% OVER CURRENT RATES. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? WE'RE HOPING TO UTILIZE THE STATE MONEY. CURRENTLY ESTIMATED REVENUE IS ABOUT $961,657. SO WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE COST NEUTRALITY TARGET, WHICH IS ABOUT 1.177 MILLION. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH FOR THIS ITEM. WHAT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOUGH, 
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ALSO IS THAT THIS VALUATION COVERS APPROXIMATELY 135 ACTIVE MEMBERS AND ALSO APPROXIMATELY 126 MEMBERS IN DROP OVERALL PAYROLL COSTS, APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 11.2 MILLION. SO STAFF IS. 
          REQUESTING THAT YOU APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR? GO AHEAD MA'AM. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-31. NO, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED IAF. WAIT WAIT WAIT. I THOUGHT IT WAS 2020 631. THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT HERE. YEAH DEAR. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON MY. I WAS GONNA SAY DID I JUST SCREW THIS UP? YEAH. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ONES. YEAH. PROBABLY CHANGE THE UPDATE. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THERE. I'M LOOKING AT THE BLUE MEMO. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING. YEAH. IT'S UPDATED ON THE BLUE MEMO. OH APPROVAL ORDINANCE 2020 631. CORRECT. YEAH. WHO'S THE SECOND. ME OH OH I DON'T CARE. SO WE HAVE MISS BASSETT. AND THEN THE SECOND MISS HANLEY. SO OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED. I VOTE AYE AND THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. 
          MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17 AWARD OF 2026-30, MR. CONNELLY. CAN WE JUMP. 16. SO I THREW EVERYBODY OFF ON THAT ONE. 15151515 ACTUALLY WE'RE 15 OKAY. JUST KIDDING. ALL RIGHT. SO 
          [15. Collective bargaining agreement with the IAFF Supervisory Unit from date of ratification by City Council until September 30, 2027.]
ITEM NUMBER 15. OH, I DID THAT ONE. YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH COFFEE. YOU DIDN'T GET MY COFFEE LIKE HE SAID HE WAS. YOU'LL GET USED TO US. THAT'S OKAY. ITEM ITEM NUMBER 15 ON THE AGENDA IS FOR YOUR APPROVAL. IT IS THE I SUPERVISORY UNIT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. 
          THIS IS FOR THE BATTALION CHIEFS OR SIX MEMBERS IN THE IN THE UNIT. CURRENTLY. THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT IS FOR ONE YEAR FROM RATIFICATION OF THIS AGREEMENT TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. GIVEN THAT WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY FIVE WEEKS OR SO LEFT IN THE YEAR, A FISCAL YEAR, THE COST FOR THE REMAINING FISCAL YEAR IS ABOUT 11,000, AND THEN FOR 27, FISCAL YEAR 27 IS APPROXIMATELY 187,000. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT. SO I SHOULD MENTION THAT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT MIRRORS WHAT'S IN THE NON-SUPERVISORY AGREEMENT. AND SO, ONE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE, THOUGH, THAT I THINK ARE IMPACTFUL. IN THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT, THERE WAS A 21 STEP PAY SCALE PLAN. IN THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT, WE'VE KIND OF STREAMLINED IT TO HAVE A TEN STEP PLAN. AND THEN ALSO FISCAL YEAR 2006, IF YOU'RE WONDERING, IT'S AN 8% WAGE INCREASE. AND THEN FOR 27 AND 9% INCREASE OVERALL. AND SO THESE FOLKS ARE NONEXEMPT NOT ELIGIBLE FOR OVERTIME. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD SIR. SO STEPS 21 TO STEPS TO TEN STEPS TEN STEPS. YEAH. 
          AVERAGING 8% IN FISCAL YEAR 2026 AND 2027. THE MEMBERS WILL RECEIVE 9% COST OF LIVING INCREASE. CORRECT. IS THAT HAS THAT BEEN AGREEABLE TO ALL PARTIES THAT YOU KNOW OF? YES IT HAS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. GO AHEAD SIR, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. NO OTHER NO OTHER COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MOTION. MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED IAFF SUPERVISORY UNION CONTRACT FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING UPON THE RATIFICATION BY CITY COUNCIL THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          [17. Ordinance No. 2026-30, Zoning Code Text Amendment Request - Public Use: (First Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance amending City Code, Appendix B, Article V, Section 2(D) Table 1B, to allow a public use to be a permitted use within the C-1 and C-3 zoning districts. (Applicant - City of Melbourne) (P & Z Board - 8/6/2026)]
SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE ITEM 17 ORDER 20 2630 MR. CONNELLY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO A ZONING 
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TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING PUBLIC USES, MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING APPENDIX B OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED ZONING AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE, DISTRICT REGULATIONS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. REPORT ON THIS, MISS DITTMER. YES. SO THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPENDIX B, ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION TWO D, TABLE ONE B THIS IS THE TABLE OF USES FOR NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS WILL BE TO ALLOW A PUBLIC USE TO BE A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE C ONE AND C THREE ZONING DISTRICTS. SO WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY RESEARCH ABOUT THE WORDS PARK AND PUBLIC USES. LOOKED THROUGH ALL THE WAY BACK TO PRE 1972 ZONING CODE, WHICH WAS THE ZONING CODE THAT ACTUALLY CAME ABOUT AFTER WE MERGED WITH THE CITY OF EAU GALLIE. AND, AND LOOKING AT THAT DURING 1972, IN 2005, PUBLIC USES PARKS WERE SORT OF USED INTERCHANGEABLY AS FAR AS DEFINITIONS WITHIN THE ZONING CODE. IN THE PRE 2005 ZONING CODE, PUBLIC USES WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT. WE HAD SORT OF A PYRAMIDING ZONING DISTRICT SYSTEM, AND IT WASN'T WASN'T A VERY CLEAR WAY TO, TO WRITE A ZONING CODE AND CALL OUT ALL THE USES. BUT GENERALLY THE PUBLIC USES WERE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE IN OUR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. WHEN WE REWROTE THE ZONING CODE IN 2005, WE WENT TO A VERY SPECIFIC. THE USES WERE CALLED OUT AS WHERE THEY WERE PERMITTED, AND IF THEY WEREN'T LISTED THERE, THEY WERE CONSIDERED PROHIBITED. AND WE THINK THAT'S SORT OF THAT EVOLUTION, THAT TRANSLATION AFTER THAT 2005 ZONING CODE IS WHERE WE LOST MAYBE SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS AND AREAS THAT WE WANTED PUBLIC USES TO BE ALLOWED IN. SO FIRST, LET ME READ YOU THE DEFINITION OF A PUBLIC USE. SO COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHEN I'M SAYING PUBLIC USE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT I'M NOT NOT TALKING ABOUT. SO IT'S CURRENTLY DEFINED AS LAND OR STRUCTURES THAT ARE OPERATED BY A CITY, COUNTY, STATE, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE. AND SOME OF THE EXAMPLES, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT LIMITED TO THESE, BUT THEY'RE THINGS LIKE OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS, CEMETERIES, CIVIC CLUBS, MUSEUMS, LIBRARIES, FIRE AND POLICE STATIONS, SCHOOLS AND PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS. SO THAT'S WHAT OUR CURRENT PUBLIC USE DEFINITION IS DESCRIBED. WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE IS SOME OF OUR OTHER TYPES OF PUBLIC USES THAT ARE MAYBE A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE. AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY LISTED AS OUR PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICE FACILITIES. SO THINGS LIKE OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN AND WATER PLANT, ELECTRIC SUBSTATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE FIT IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT DOESN'T ACTUALLY CHANGE WHERE THOSE ARE ALLOWED. WE'RE STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT THOSE LOWER INTENSITY TYPES OF PUBLIC USES. SO STAFF IS PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW THE C1 ZONING DISTRICT AND THE C3 ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW PUBLIC USE TO BE A PERMITTED USE, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IT'S LISTED IN THERE TODAY IS A CONDITIONAL USE. SO IN IN REVIEW OF THE USES AND INTENSITY THAT WE SEE IN A C1 ZONING DISTRICT OR C3 DISTRICT STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PUBLIC USES THAT WE HAVE DEFINED ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THOSE OTHER TYPES OF USES WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT OF C1 AND C3. JUST FOR A LITTLE CONTEXT, OUR C3 ZONING IS ONLY LOCATED IN OUR TWO DOWNTOWN AREAS WITHIN OUR CRA BOUNDARIES OF EAU GALLIE IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS SOME C1 ZONING IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREAS, BUT WE HAVE C1 ZONING THROUGHOUT THE CITY GENERALLY FIND THAT ON A, YOU KNOW, ARTERIAL COLLECTOR ROADWAY TYPE OF SCENARIO. YOU ALSO FIND THAT OUR PUBLIC USES ARE LOCATED IN I-1 ZONING, BUT WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL MUNICIPAL PUBLIC USE FACILITIES IN OUR C3 ZONING DISTRICT. WE'VE REVIEWED WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE BOTH THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND THE RECREATION ELEMENT OF THE COMP PLAN THAT ENCOURAGE THIS TYPE OF CHANGE IN THESE USES IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS. ADDITIONALLY, BOTH OF THE CRA REDEVELOPMENT PLANS ALSO CALL OUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PUBLIC USES BEING APPROPRIATE IN THE CRAS. SO WITH THAT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID CONSIDER THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT AND UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 22226-30. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DITTMAR? ALL PARTIES 
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WERE AGREEABLE. WELL, THIS WOULD THIS REALLY? YEAH. YOUR EYEBROWS GO UP. I SIT UP STRAIGHT. THIS REALLY APPLIES TO PUBLIC USES. SO IT WOULD BE USES THAT THE CITY MAY PROPOSE OR THE COUNTY OR STATE USES. WELL, YOU HAD INDICATED BOTH. YOU KNOW, THE DOWNTOWN, BOTH DOWNTOWNS HAD DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE AGREEABLE. YOU HAD CONVERSATION WITH WITH. NO THEY DIDN'T. YEAH. OUR DEFINITIONS ARE CITYWIDE. SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE AND EAU GALLIE. I JUST WAS MENTIONING THE CIVIL WAR, YOU KNOW, IN OUR. NO, NO, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY TAKE THIS TO THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEES. WE LOOK AT IT AS REALLY MORE OF A ZONING, ZONING RELATED ISSUE THAN IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ENOUGH TO BE, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON YOUR EYEBROWS NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SIGN UP SHEET? OKAY, THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR, APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-30. BASED UPON THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMORANDUM. SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION SECONDED BY MR. SMITH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18 IS 
          [18. Discussion of Melbourne Economic Development Revenue Initiatives. (Requested by Council Member Marcus Smith)]
COUNCIL DISCUSSION PRESENTED BY MR. SMITH. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I THINK WE HAVE SOME SLIDES. FIRST OFF THANK YOU MAYOR, FOR I CAN'T SEE. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO PRESENT INITIATIVES. OF COURSE, THIS CAME OUT OF OUR THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL PASSING OF AMENDMENT THREE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPING A BRAINSTORMING WAYS THAT WE COULD INCREASE CITY REVENUES WITHOUT HAVING TO INCREASE TAXES OR FEES. SO I'VE DEVELOPED A TEN POINT STRATEGY. I KNOW WE'VE HAD QUITE A MEETING TONIGHT. SO, MAYOR, I AT LEAST LIKE TO MAYBE GO THROUGH THE FIRST FIVE, BUT I COULD PROBABLY GET THROUGH ALL TEN TONIGHT AND THEN WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSION. IT'S UP TO YOU. GO AHEAD. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO LET ME TELL YOU WHEN YOU'RE DONE. ALL RIGHT, I LIKE THAT. THAT'S GOOD. SO AGAIN, THIS COMES OUT OF SORT OF A CAUTIONARY THING BECAUSE. SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT SPENDING MONEY OR PREPARING MELBOURNE TO GENERATE, ATTRACT OR LEVERAGE MORE. THIS IS ABOUT ATTRACTING MORE RESOURCES AND BEING ATTRACTIVE SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE REVENUE COMING TO THE CITY. 
          SO AS YOU SEE HERE, STARTING OFF, THAT GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR GROWTH. YOU KNOW, SO AS MELBOURNE CONTINUES TO EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, GROWTH SHOULD NOT MERELY CREATE ADDITIONAL COSTS, BUT WE'RE PROPERLY PAYING AND MANAGE GROWTH. WE SHOULD CREATE REVENUE NECESSARY TO BUILD A STRONGER MELBOURNE. SO THAT'S SO THAT'S SORT OF THE FOUNDATION OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE HERE. AND WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO MANY DETAILS. SO THE THE TOP THREE PRIORITIES THAT I WILL DEFINITELY TOUCH ON. I HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THESE, THESE FIRST PRIORITIES. FIRST THREE PRIORITIES IS TO ESTABLISH WHAT THE ACRONYM SPELLS OUT. MELBOURNE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH WILL BE A PROPOSED PRIVATE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT EXPANDS CITY'S CAPACITY FOR NEW INVESTMENT, PHILANTHROPY, PARTNERSHIPS AND REVENUE. NUMBER TWO, PRIORITY STRATEGY WOULD LOOK AT WAYS TO INCREASE TOURISM AND DESTINATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF OUR DESTINATION, WHICH IS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. I MEAN, WE HAVE THREE UNIQUE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, TWO DOWNTOWN. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE VERY UNIQUE ABOUT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE COMPARED TO, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO THE OTHER CITIES IN BREVARD COUNTY. AND NUMBER THREE, ME AND COUNCILMAN LARUSSO, WE SORT OF WE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE, BUT IT IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL FORMULA FOR THE SALES TAX AND THE TOURISM DOLLAR, AND THEN AND THEN ADVOCATE FOR CHANGES. BECAUSE IF WE GO AND WE CREATE MORE ACTIVITY, MORE BUSINESS, MORE ATTRACTION, BUT YET THE FORMULA IS BASED ON POPULATION GROWTH. THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A FAIR ASSESSMENT. SO WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND PLEASE STOP ME IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY. I KNOW Y'ALL WILL, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S OUT THERE. SO THE MELBOURNE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT DOES IS IT SPANS MELBOURNE'S CAPACITY TO PURSUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT TRADITIONAL MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS ARE NOT STRUCTURED TO CAPTURE. SO THIS IS COMPLEMENTARY, NOT REPLACING ANYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS DONE. 
          CITY HAS ALREADY DONE IT DOES A WONDERFUL JOB. AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OVER $70 MILLION IN GRANTS THAT HAVE ALREADY COME IN, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS WOULD BE A WAY OF EXTENDING OUR OUR REACH. SO FOR CURRENTLY UNFUNDED DEVELOPMENT 
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IDEAS, CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL OR THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF EXISTING OPERATIONS. 
          AND YOU SEE HERE THIS IS BUILT ON PROVEN MODEL. SO I REALLY USED THE INVEST ATLANTA MODEL SORT OF AS THE FOUNDATION. AND IN THAT PARTICULAR MODEL, THE MAYOR OF ATLANTA CHAIRS THAT THAT BOARD. WE'RE NOT GOING INTO ANY STRUCTURE HERE. THIS IS JUST TO GET BUY IN FOR THE CONCEPT. BUT ANOTHER MODEL THAT REALLY WORKED WAS THE GRANT-VALKARIA COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. I WAS WITH THEM WHEN THEY OPENED UP THEIR NEW VETERANS PARK. SO YOU KIND OF HAVE. AND THAT WAS A 501 C THREE ESTABLISHED YEARS AGO WHEN GRANT-VALKARIA WAS WAS DEVELOPED IN SUPPORT OF THAT CITY. SO YOU KIND OF HAVE THIS FULL RANGE OF, OF OPERATIONS, BUT BOTH WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR OWN UNIQUE WAY. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT THE SPACE COAST EDC DOES, THERE ARE REGIONAL PARTNERS. SO WHAT THIS FOR SHORT AND WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY THE WHOLE THING, MDA, THE MELBOURNE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THIS WILL FOCUS ON INSIDE OUR CITY LIMITS. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE TO ME. AND IT KIND OF WOULD HELP TO FOCUS ON EIGHT STRATEGIC PILLARS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT, HELP WITH THE TOURISM AND DESTINATION. OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE GENERAL FUND HAS LIMITED CAPACITY TO DO, DOING THINGS WE WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS WITH THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANT, BUT THIS. BUT WITH ADDITIONAL REVENUE, WE CAN DO EVEN MORE. BE ABLE TO SUPPORT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IN VERY UNIQUE WAYS, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT HOUSING SOLUTIONS. 
          AND IF YOU REALLY STUDY WHAT THE CITY OF ATLANTA HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS. NOW, THIS WAS ESTABLISHED FROM ONE OF THEIR PREVIOUS MAYOR, MAYNARD JACKSON, WHO THE AIRPORT IS NAMED AFTER. 
          BUT NOW LOOK AT WHAT IT'S ABLE TO DO WITH YEARS OF INVESTMENT. AND THEN AND THEN ALSO BEING ABLE TO DO THINGS IN AN INNOVATIVE AND ENGAGING WAY. NEXT SLIDE. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE WAYS THAT IT WOULD HELP TO BOOST THE CITY REVENUE, BECAUSE WITH MORE BUSINESSES BEING ATTRACTED, IT WILL HELP TO EXPAND THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAX BASE. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FUNDS THAT COME IN THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION NOW COULD BE USED TO HELP GROW TOURISM OUTSIDE OF JUST DEPENDING ON FUNDING, THE TYPICAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING OR OTHER TYPES OF FUNDING, BECAUSE NOW WE COULD DEVELOP A MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT MODEL. AND THEN AS YOU STRUCTURE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, YOU KNOW, HAVING A MECHANISM THAT WOULD HELP US TO DO THAT WOULD BE THINGS FOR US TO CONSIDER. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE. YEP. LET'S GO BACK FOR A SECOND. GO BACK. YEAH. IF YOU DON'T MIND. YOU ASK FOR QUESTIONS. YEAH. SO EXPAND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAX BASE. HOW WOULD YOU EXPLAIN TO US TURN VACANT AND UNUSED SITES INTO HOTELS OFFICES. MIXED USE HIGHER TAXABLE VALUE WITHOUT HIGHER RATES. SO ARE YOU TALKING OUTSIDE OF THE CRA'S. BECAUSE THE CRA'S GIVE GIVE ABSOLUTE INCREDIBLE TAX BREAKS. 
          SO SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUTSIDE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A CITY. SO THIS WOULD SO THIS WOULDN'T SIT ON TOP OF THE CRA'S. THIS WOULD BE STAND ALONE FROM THE CRA. YES. OKAY. 
          THIS IS A CITY WIDE INITIATIVE. SO IT WOULD BE TO BECAUSE AS OUR CRAS, THE SUNSET OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, LIKE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CRA, WHAT WE JUST APPROVED. NOW, THIS WOULD BE A WAY TO HAVE A CITY WIDE REACH. OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION IS A STRUCTURE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY PARTNERSHIPS. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF THEM ALREADY IN THE CITY. HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO CHANGE THAT OR TO IMPROVE THAT? SO THEY WANT TO GO INTO DETAILS. TOO MANY DETAILS TODAY, BUT SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO CHANGE, BUT WITH A ORGANISM, A MECHANISM LIKE THIS, I THINK IT WOULD ENHANCE WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS A CITY WIDE BECAUSE I KNOW THE ONE THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH IS WITHIN THE CRA. THERE'S TWO THERE. RIGHT. BUT NOW BEING ABLE TO EXPAND CITY WIDE WOULD BE I THINK THAT COMES DOWN TO THE SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR CITY WITH US. SO IT WAS A GALLEY ROTARY CLUB FOR THE BANDSHELL. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT IS THE PARKING GARAGE, CORRECT? RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO KNOW. SO SO THOSE MODELS CAN BE BUILT UPON IN A MORE. I THINK THAT'S MORE PRIVATE DRIVEN THAN PUBLIC. RIGHT. GOOD. WHEN YOU'RE DONE, I'M DONE. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS, SO YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING, MR. LARUSSO, WHICH IS WE'RE NOT DIVING INTO THE DETAILS TOO MUCH RIGHT NOW, WHICH IT DOES SEEM VERY DETAILED, BY THE WAY. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF DETAILS INTO THIS SLIDE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT. BUT SO WHAT FRAME OF MIND SHOULD I BE LOOKING INTO ON THIS IF IT'S NOT IMPLEMENTATION, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING OF US? SO I KNOW THAT I'M WATCHING THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH I PRESUME IS GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL. IS IT EIGHT STRATEGIES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING? BECAUSE WE'RE STILL ON NUMBER ONE, PICK UP LITTER PICK 
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UP AFTER WE GET TO THE FIRST THREE. BUT WHAT FRAME OF MIND AM I LOOKING AT THEN? IF IT'S NOT IMPLEMENTATION, IT IS NOT NOT FOR US TO APPROVE IMPLEMENTATION, BUT TO GIVE STAFF GUIDANCE FOR FEASIBILITY, FURTHER STUDY FOR, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITIES OF, OF IMPLEMENTATION. BUT WE'RE NOT DECIDING IMPLEMENTATION TONIGHT. OKAY. BECAUSE I WOULD CONSIDER I, AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO JUMP ON AND I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY THINK THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. ARE WE MOVING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE. I WOULD CONSIDER THAT THE STEP ONE IMPLEMENTATION JUST, JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE MY, MY FRAMING IS AT. SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT. YEAH. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS, NOT PERMISSION. RIGHT. I CAN AGREE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? RIGHT. OKAY, GOOD. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DIFFERENTIATE WHAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DOES ALREADY. I MEAN, THEY BRING IN, YOU KNOW, THEY HELP BRING IN BUSINESSES AND ALL THAT. AND THEY PUT US OUT FRONT IN THE EDC. SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALMOST REINVENTING THE SAME WAY. WE'RE PUTTING WE HAVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HERE. WE'RE PART OF THAT AS A CITY. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SECOND PROGRAM DOING WHAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ALREADY DOES. SINCE WE ARE PUBLIC PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, WE WE PARTICIPATE, THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES, WE PARTICIPATE INTO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH ATTRACTS. THAT'S PART OF THEIR THING IS ATTRACTING BUSINESSES TO THE AREA. AND WE HAVE THE EDC. SO I'M FEELING LIKE WE'RE REINVENTING THE WHOLE THING HERE FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. SO THE CONTEXT OF THIS IS SO THAT WE AS A CITY ENTITY WOULD HAVE FUNDING. THAT WOULD BE, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE FUNDING? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE FUNDING? I MEAN, LET ME LET ME CONTINUE. I MEAN, I'M THE MONEY GIRL. I'M GOING TO TELL ME WHERE THE MONEY IS. LET'S GO RIGHT TO THE MONEY. HOLD ON. 
          LET'S GO TO THE MONEY. OKAY. SO, MR. SMITH, GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A VALID POINT, THOUGH, BECAUSE I MEAN, GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. IT'S NOT WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE TOO MUCH DISCUSSION ON HERE. BUT AGAIN IT'S JUST SOME GOVERNANCE. SO THIS IS THE ANSWER. WHAT COUNCILMAN NEWMAN'S QUESTION WAS. SO FIRST STEPS YOU KNOW WHICH OF THESE CONCEPTS WERE FURTHER EVALUATION RIGHT. SO FEASIBILITY STUDY WE WE LOOK AT IT WE SAY, OH THIS SOUNDS SOUNDS REALLY GOOD. AND THEN WE MAP, LOOK AT WHAT EXISTING EFFORTS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAYBE DEFINE THE GAPS THAT THIS MDA WOULD HELP US TO FULFILL. AND AGAIN, USING THOSE PROVEN MODELS OF SUCCESS THAT HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE WITH THAT, WITH THAT LANTERN. YES. WE'RE NOT ATLANTA. WE'RE NOT THAT SIZE. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE AMOUNT OF CORPORATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF INDUSTRY HERE THAT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF MELBOURNE TO, TO TAP INTO. 
          ALL RIGHT, NOW WE GET INTO STRATEGY NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS MORE OF A TOURIST DEVELOPMENT BRANDING TYPE EFFORT. SO AGAIN, I SORT OF SET THE STAGE WITH WITH ONE CITY WITH TWO HISTORIC DOWNTOWNS AND THREE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. SO IN 1968, WE WERE ALL WEARING A PIN RIGHT HERE, THE MERGER OF MELBOURNE EAU GALLIE. BUT MELBOURNE IS A VERY UNIQUE HISTORIC FLORIDA CITY, RIGHT? SO BUILDING ON THAT UNIQUENESS ALLOWS US TO BECOME A DESTINATION. AS YOU SEE, YOU GOT DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. THEY USE THAT ACRONYM DTNB. THEY HAVE IT ON THE SIGNS. YOU GOT GALLIE ARTS DISTRICT, EGAD. AND THEN YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT BEFORE HISTORIC SOUTH MELBOURNE HISAME. RIGHT. SO AGAIN, JUST THINKING ABOUT IT FROM A BRANDING. SO THIS WOULD BE AN EFFORT TO TRANSFORM MELBOURNE FROM A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE VISIT AND JUST PASS THROUGH INTO A DESTINATION WHERE PEOPLE INTENTIONALLY CHOOSE TO VISIT, EXPLORE, EXPERIENCE AND THEN RETURN. QUESTION. NEXT SLIDE. YES, SIR. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED ANY OF THIS WITH DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE? D, TMBE GAD OR? WELL, THERE'S NON-EXISTENT. HI. SO ME, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH ANY OF THE BOARDS WITH ANY OF THE. WE'RE HEARING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. SO YOU HAVEN'T DONE THE RESEARCH ON THIS YET. OKAY. YEAH, ONLY GENERAL CONVERSATION, BUT NOTHING. GOT IT. OKAY. 
          RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS A PROPOSED LOOK AS TO WHAT A BRANDING COULD LOOK LIKE FOR MLB. I LOVE ME, I LOVE MLB BECAUSE YOU GOT THE ME THAT'S SORT OF EMBEDDED WITHIN THAT. I LOVE THE BIG APPLE. I LOVE VIRGINIA, I LOVE VIRGINIA IS FOR LOVERS. YEAH YEAH. ISN'T IT SOMEWHAT OF THE SPACE OF NOT SPACE OF COMMUNITY EDUCATOR HAS I LOVE SEIZING THEIR BRANDING. 
          I LOVE CC OR IS IT SEE YOU COMMUNITY EDUCATE Q C SORRY, CEC YOU SEE COMMUNITY EDUCATION CREDIT UNION CCU WELL THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT BRANDING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN SOME OF THE POTENTIAL DESTINATIONS THAT WE COULD DEVELOP MEET ME IN MLB. RIGHT. 
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SO WE TALKED ABOUT I TALKED ABOUT THE WE TALKED ABOUT THE CULTURAL TRAIL AS A PROPOSAL CONSIDERATION. WE'RE CALLED A HARBOR CITY BECAUSE FRONT STREET, THE DOWNTOWN USED TO BE RIGHT THERE, BUT WE COULD ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT MORE BRAND THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I KNOW THAT THE. MELBOURNE MAIN STREET HE'S I WENT TO THE LAST MEETING. HE'S TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING AND INCLUDING THAT THAT THAT WATERFRONT AREA, RIGHT. WE GOT THE FOUNDERS MONUMENT CITIES ALREADY DON'T DONATED LAND FOR THAT RIVERVIEW PARK THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO THEIR HOMES PARK RIGHT. WE'RE STARTING TO MOVE AND DO THINGS ON THAT WATERFRONT AREA IN CRANE CREEK. SO YOU KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE, I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT THE MELBOURNE MILITARY MEMORIAL PARK AND THE LIBERTY BELL DISTRICT SORT OF HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. BUT THAT THAT WHOLE AREA, NOW THAT WE'VE CLEARED OUT A LOT OF THE HOMELESSNESS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY DOING SOME THINGS, WE HAVE A FEASIBILITY STUDY GOING ON ABOUT A NEW CONVENTION CENTER FOR THE AREA. BUT BRANDING THAT AREA, YOU GOT THE BRICKS THAT ARE THERE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO START CONNECTING THE DOTS FOR DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT. I'D LIKE TO INTERJECT FOR A SECOND. EGAD, CULTURAL TRAIL. THERE ALREADY IS ONE. AND IF YOU WANT TO REACH OUT TO NANCY DYLAN, I KNOW HER, OKAY. AND I'VE TALKED TO HER. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS HIGHLIGHTING ALL HIGHLIGHTING THOSE THINGS. SURE. AND, AND SHE DOES THESE TOURS. YEP. SHE DOES THESE WALKING TOURS. YEP. 
          AND I THINK SHE'S LIKE 80 SOMETHING YEARS OLD AND SHE'LL STILL OUT WALK ANY OF US. YEP. 
          SO, SO AGAIN, IT'S BUILDING UPON THOSE THINGS THAT ARE THERE. OKAY, SO THAT WE COULD GET MORE. SO ALL THESE, I DON'T WANT TO REPLACE SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY HAS HAD THEIR PASSION IN THAT COMMUNITY TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, THAT COMES DOWN ON TOP OF THEM. RIGHT. OKAY. NO, NO, BUT THESE INDIVIDUAL CONCEPTS ADVANCE ONLY WITH THE FINE LEADS. DEFINE WHAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE. THAT'S THE FUNDING. SOURCES. 
          BACK TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HANLEY'S TALKING ABOUT, WORKING ON THE FUNDING SOURCES, ALL OF THE SORT OF A BUILD OUT. BUT THESE ARE JUST CONCEPTS AND THOUGHTS FOR US TO CONSIDER. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND SORT OF CREATING THAT MLB EXPERIENCE, RIGHT. CREATING A MLB, ANY MLB HERITAGE PASSPORT SIGNATURE PHOTO LOCATIONS, RIGHT. SIGNATURE EVENTS. SO JUST AGAIN, WAYS OF BRANDING AND PROJECTS THAT WILL BE PHASED IN AS AGAIN, LEADS, PARTNERS AND FUNDING ARE IDENTIFIED. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THIS WAS JUST A CONCEPT OF WHAT SOMEONE LOOKS LIKE. 
          THEY'RE WEARING A I LOVE ME, I LOVE MLB T-SHIRT. NEXT SLIDE. RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE WAYS OF MEASURING THE SUCCESS, RIGHT? WE DON'T JUST WANT A CONCEPT TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S THROWN OUT THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO FUNDS SPONSORSHIPS, PHILANTHROPY WAYS, PROJECTS INITIATED, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE DASHBOARDS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, RIGHT, AS TO HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT WE'RE STARTING FROM. IF WE, WE ALL AGREE AND WHERE WE START FROM. AND THEN WE LOOK BACK OVER THE YEARS AND WE SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS KIND OF GETS INTO A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TO REPLACE STAFF, IT'S NOT TO REPLACE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. BUT WE'RE CREATING A BRAND AND A, AND A CITY ENTITY THAT WE WILL NOW BE ABLE TO REPRESENT AND BECOME MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT. NEXT. NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO STRATEGY NUMBER THREE, BECAUSE IF WE DO ALL OF THESE THINGS, BUT YET WE DON'T, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT COMES BACK TO US FROM FROM THOSE GOVERNMENTAL SOURCES. THEN WE NEED TO ASK THAT QUESTION, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF MELBOURNE BECOMES ONE OF BREVARD'S PRIMARY ECONOMIC I MEAN, IT IS ALREADY ONE OF THE PRIMARY ECONOMIC ENGINES, AIRPORT, THE AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE EMPLOYEES THAT THE OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE. RIGHT. WE HAVE THE TWO COLLEGES, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO US AND THEY ALL GENERATE REVENUE. RIGHT. BUT IS IT COMING BACK TO US IN PROPORTION TO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING? SO SO I GOT A QUESTION THEN, AND THIS IS WHAT, FOR EXAMPLE, STATE SALES TAX DISTRIBUTION AND MUNICIPAL REVENUE SHARING. FORMULA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN BRINGING UP IS FOR, TO, TO CHECK TO SEE IF WE'RE GETTING OUR SHARE. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT TO MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO DO YOU KNOW WHO DOES THAT? CORRECT? THE STATE? I MEAN, I DON'T WE HAVE NO NO, I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S THE STATE. I MEAN, I, I, I KNOW THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE. THEY THEY DO ALL THAT THINK ABOUT, I MEAN, GIVE THEM A CALL, SAY SO. SO WHAT MR. LARUSSO SAID THE LAST TIME HE SAID, HEY, COUNCILMAN SMITH, I'LL GO UP TO TALLAHASSEE WITH YOU AND WE WILL. I MEAN, SO THIS IS JUST BASED ON THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO PASS. YEAH. WELL, EITHER EITHER WAY, EITHER WAY 
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IT GOES. BECAUSE IF IT DOES PASS, IT'S LIKE, HEY, GIVE US MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF ACTIVITY, RIGHT? SURE. THIS IS MORE PROJECT BASED REVENUE AS OPPOSED TO YOU'RE JUST GIVING US. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE AIRPORT IS, AS YOU MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORT IS VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT THEY INVEST INTO. THEY'VE GOT 68 TENANTS OUT THERE, AND I JUST HAD LUNCH WITH THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR THE OTHER DAY AND JACK RILES, AND THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO COME AND INCREDIBLE ANNOUNCEMENTS TO BE HAD. BUT THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHO AND WHERE THEY THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT TOURISM. NOT AT ALL. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT THE BIGGEST TOURISM BUS IN HERE. AND THAT'S TUI, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. SO, SO SO THEY THINK THEY'RE DOING SO THEY'RE THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, FOLLOW US. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW YOU. YEAH. AND AND THAT'S AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE WITH TUI AND THOSE PEOPLE HERE AND AS WE DO THESE THINGS AGAIN, MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT, LET'S LOOK AT THE FORMULA AND LET'S SEE IS THERE I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD THE FORMULA IS, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST HEARD THAT WE'RE IT'S BASED ON POPULATION AND NOT BASED ON ACTIVITY. RIGHT. SO LET'S ASK THE QUESTION. ANYTHING ELSE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WHAT IS THE REVENUE SHARING FORMULA. RIGHT. WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD THE COMMISSION DO THOUGH AS THE RECOMMENDED ACTION. NUMBER ONE, THE COMMISSION, AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE REVENUE DISTRIBUTION FORMULA. SO WHAT ARE THEY LIKE THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER. SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING. WELL NO NO I LIKE IT IS A RECOMMENDATION. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. RIGHT. SO FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT WHAT IS THE FORMULA. IS THERE WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE REGULATIONS OR THE RULES OR THE WAYS THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE CHANGED. OR IF THAT FORMULA STAYS THE SAME, COULD THERE BE SOME TYPE OF A KICKER OR ENHANCEMENT DONE BASED OFF OF A CITY THAT IS NOW IN DOING THESE THINGS THAT IS GROWING OR PROVIDING MORE TOURISTS? WE GOT MORE HOTELS. I MEAN, IT'S SO I DON'T I DON'T IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY WHAT THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY BEEN SUCH A LONG STANDING. BUT LET'S ASK THE QUESTION AND SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE. WELL, THEN I THINK THAT I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE LOSING ME. IT'S NOT ABOUT ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE ROSS AND I HOPE HE'S ENJOYING HIS TIME UP IN MINNESOTA. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT HE ACTUALLY KNEW THAT WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE REVENUE FORMULA WAS. AND SO THAT REALLY SKIPS YOU ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE TO ABOUT FIVE. AND SO I DON'T QUITE I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PIECE BECAUSE WE DON'T CONTROL THAT. I'VE TALKED TO ALL OF OUR STATE LEGISLATORS ABOUT THIS ACTUALLY. SO WE'RE ALREADY DOING THIS. SO I'M TRYING TO CONDENSE ON IF WE'RE DOING A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW ON IT, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE LOSING ME, I GOT YOU. SO WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP TO ROSS ALSO, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT. BUT THEN AND EVEN IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WHY, WHY IS IT NOT POSSIBLE TO GET MORE BASED OFF OF ACTIVITY? I MEAN, WILLINGNESS IN TALLAHASSEE. YEAH. THE TALLAHASSEE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I MEAN, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IT'S LIKE IT'S WATER, WATER, WATER, WATER, WAY TO PUT IT. I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY SAY, HEY, GIVE US MORE MONEY. YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT ATLANTA. ATLANTA HAS I MEAN, GEORGIA HAS. YEAH. WE CAN'T LOOK AT ATLANTA BILLIONS. YEAH. THEY GOT WHAT THEY THEY GOT WHAT, 1.5% SALES TAX FOR THE CITY. YEAH. RIGHT. I MEAN, I MEAN WE GOTTA WE GOTTA LOOK AT OUR SITUATION. SO WE CAN'T WE CAN'T CHANGE OUR SALES TAX HERE. WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF AMENDMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. FOR THE WHOLE I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY, BUT IT'S WORTHY OF CONVERSATION. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ALL IT IS. RIGHT. YEAH. LET'S, LET'S DO THAT. BUT I MEAN, BUT WE CAN'T JUST DO, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WITH SALES TAX, WE CAN'T JUST DO THE CITY OF MELBOURNE THAT YOU HAVE THE ADDITIONAL SALES TAX. I DO KNOW THAT WILL ALLOW THAT. NO, I GET THAT. I MEAN WE CAN'T WE CAN'T JUST CHANGE IT. BUT AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT IS HERE IS SAYING THAT, HEY, WE'RE DOING WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THESE THINGS TO INCREASE TOURISM. I DON'T THINK WE'VE ALL LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE. I AND WE HAVE TO PROBABLY KEEP DOING IT UNTIL YOU RUN INTO SOMEBODY OR SOMETHING OR SOME FORCE THAT THEY DON'T LIKE US, THEY THEY DON'T LIKE US. I MEAN, LET'S FACE IT, WHAT DO THEY DO? WELL, BUT WE, THEY, WELL, THE STATE TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, I LOVE THAT ANSWER. I MEAN, LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER AND SEE THE MONEY THAT WE GOT THIS PAST YEAR. YEAH. I MEAN, I MEAN, AND LOOK OVER THE OVER YOUR SHOULDER AND LOOK AT THE MONEY THE PALM BAY DID NOT GET THIS YEAR. YEAH. 
          OKAY. SO, SO SO SOMEBODY LIKE US, YOU KNOW, SO THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WE HAVE ZERO, YOU KNOW, NO STATE SALES TAX. AND IT SAYS BASICALLY FROM GOING FROM 
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GEORGIA TO FLORIDA TO SAVINGS OF ABOUT $3,500 A YEAR ON SOMEBODY MAKING 100 GRAND, WHICH IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, OKAY, I'LL LET YOU KEEP GOING. SO, OKAY, NO, AND THIS IS ALL GOOD DISCUSSION. I HEAR, I HEAR THE FRUSTRATION, I HEAR WE HEAR THE CHALLENGE, BUT LET'S KEEP ASKING. WELL, THAT'S HOW YOU'RE TRAINED. YEAH, THAT'S HOW YOU'VE BEEN SCHOOLED. TEN POINT PLAN. I'VE HEARD NOTHING OUT OF YOU OVER THESE PAST TWO YEARS, BUT LET'S DO A TEN POINT PLAN. NEXT TEN POINT. NEXT SLIDE. COME ON. ALL RIGHT. OH, THERE'S NUMBER TEN. ALL RIGHT. SO SO THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. WE WENT THROUGH THE FIRST THREE. 
          AND THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT THEY'RE MORE SLIDES BECAUSE I THINK THAT THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING FOR US. AND THEN THESE THESE NEXT FOUR THROUGH TEN IS JUST ONE SLIDE. 
          AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EASIER FOR US TO EITHER CONSIDER AND, AND GO FROM THERE. SO YEAR ROUND, A YEAR ROUND EVENT, ECONOMIC ECONOMY, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT IN NUMBER TWO, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE DOING THINGS NOW, MAYBE YOU START TO HAVE BETTER EVENTS OR DIFFERENT EVENTS, RIGHT? A FORECLOSED AND VACANT PROPERTY REGISTRY. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME DATA OUT THERE BETWEEN TITUSVILLE AND PALM BAY. THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE. MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LOW HANGING FRUIT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO AND GET SOME REVENUE COMING IN JUST FROM SIMPLY RFP AND FIGURING OUT THE SOLUTION TO THAT. RIGHT? CITY OWNED ASSETS AND REVENUE, THINGS LIKE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS. I THINK THAT THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE MAYBE COME UP BEFORE SOLAR, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT COMPREHENSIVELY HOW MUCH WE'RE CHARGING FOR RENT AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO AND JUST REVIEWING THOSE THINGS TO SEE, ARE THERE WAYS TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO GET ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMING IN AND THEN EXTERNAL FUNDING AND RECOVERIES? RIGHT. YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE CLASS ACTION SUITS. I TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PFAS. THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT FAST. IT WAS A HARD TIMELINE WITH THE ORIGINAL ONE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ONES THAT ALWAYS COME UP. SOME ARE WORTHWHILE, SOME MAYBE NOT. BUT AGAIN, WE THE CITY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB WITH GRANTS. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET A MELBOURNE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY GOING, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL FOUNDATION, ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT YOU CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT MONEY AND THEN SMALL BUSINESSES GETTING DOING THINGS LIKE THIS TO MAKE THE CITY MORE AND MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR MORE BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THOSE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS, THOSE BUSINESSES BRING IN PEOPLE. I MEAN, SO IT'S JUST AN OVERALL STRATEGY AND CONCEPT. AND THAT TIES IN WITH WORKFORCE AND INNOVATION COMPANY. I HAVE RUN PERSONALLY FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS WITH MORE TO COME, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO CREATE, IT'S TWO THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED IN DOING THOSE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. EMPLOYERS NEED GOOD PEOPLE AND PEOPLE NEED JOBS, RIGHT? AND YOU LOOK AT FOX, YOU SEE THE GUY WHO DOES THE WORKFORCE. SO YOU KEEP WORKING ON THOSE THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED. AND THEN NUMBER TEN IS JUST CREATING A DASHBOARD THAT HELPS US BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CURRENTLY HAVE ANYTHING WE CAN, WE CAN MEASURE, BUT ACTUALLY CREATING A DASHBOARD TO WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY KEEP SCORE ON ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE DOING. AND YOU BUILD THAT OUT IN PHASES BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING AND WHAT WE'RE MEASURING, ONE THING I LEARNED IN THE MILITARY, RIGHT, EXPECT WHAT YOU INSPECT, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TO SORT OF KEEP YOUR, YOUR, YOUR EYE ON THAT. SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO GO TO THE SITES. I JUST WENT THROUGH IT. BUT LET'S GO THROUGH THOSE LAST FEW SLIDES. KEVIN. THE YEAR ROUND ECONOMY, EVENT ECONOMY, SOME IDEAS HERE. 
          WHO'S HOSTING THESE EVENTS. NOT US. NOT US. NO. SO SO WE ALREADY DO. SO WE'RE JUST FOR. 
          BECAUSE IF THE MECHTA IS INVOLVED IN THIS, IS IT LIKE HOW IS MECHTA INVOLVED IF WE'RE NOT HOSTING THEM? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. RIGHT? SO CONCEPTUALLY, AND AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT AND IT'S NOT JUST ATLANTA THAT HAS THIS SORT OF STRATEGY, BUT CONCEPTUALLY THINKING ABOUT IT. IF IF THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY HAS FUNDING, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, LIKE WHEN YOU DID THE PARADE, RIGHT, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A POTENTIAL MECHANISM TO WHERE WE COULD HOST EVENTS BECAUSE THAT'S I THOUGHT THEY HOSTED THE END SPONSOR SPONSOR, DEFINITELY SPONSOR, BUT THEY DON'T HOST AT ALL. OKAY. NOT THAT I KNOW OF. OKAY. ON YOUR FOURTH BULLET POINT, HOTEL STAYS AND RESTAURANT TRAFFIC, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THERE IS A STATEWIDE. STATEWIDE COMMUNITY FLORIDA RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION. AND SO PARTNERING WITH THEM WOULD BE PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT YOU'D WANT TO LOOK AT RATHER THAN TO TAKE IT ON TO YOURSELF. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE OUT THERE. THEY'RE THE ONES BRINGING IN THE ADDITIONAL RED LOBSTER'S, THE ADDITIONAL MODES, THE ADDITIONAL CHURCHES, MICHELIN FIVE STARS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. SO THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE ON THE FOREFRONT OF THAT RATHER THAN TO TRY AND GET IN FRONT OF THEM ON THAT. I WOULD HATE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE POWERFUL. LOBBY AGAIN, THIS IS, AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE AND BASED OFF OF THE MODELS IS TO BE COMPLIMENTARY AND TO AUGMENT AND ENHANCE, NOT 
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TO RECREATE THE WHEEL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. TALKED ABOUT THE FORECLOSED AND VACANT PROPERTY REGISTRY INITIATIVE. ANY. I'VE GOT A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT. OH, THAT'S A THAT IS A MONEY GRAB WHEN YOU GET TO IT. IS THAT PART OF THE PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW? YES IT IS. IT REALLY IS. 
          YES. SO HOW ABOUT WE COME BACK TO IT BECAUSE THAT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH YOU. THAT'S THAT'S FINE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY MANAGER WANTED TO OR IF YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL ANOTHER TIME, BECAUSE I'VE GOT A TON OF DOCUMENTATION. OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN COME. WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. THAT'S FINE. NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE MAXIMIZE REVENUE FROM CITY OWNED ASSETS. JUST TO TOUCH ON THAT. AGAIN, I THINK I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT THERE THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT. MAYOR, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DIGITAL BILLBOARDS. THE ONES THAT MOVE LIKE VEGAS. RIGHT. BUT PUT THAT ON OUR PROPERTIES AND PEOPLE RENT THEM. SO WE'LL HAVE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS EVERYWHERE. NO NOT EVERYWHERE. NO NO NO. SO GOING BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD NOT BE I'M JUST TRYING TO VISION, THAT'S ALL. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE GO DOWN TO PALM BAY. SO STRATEGIC PLACES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. RIGHT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANNING. I DON'T THINK THE CURRENT CODE IS IN PLACE, BUT PLACES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. SO NOW IF YOU HAVE A DIGITAL BILLBOARD AND IT'S ON A CITY PROPERTY AND THE COMPANY WHO, WHO RUNS THAT MARKET LOOK LIKE LAS VEGAS, NO, NOT FULLY LIKE LAS VEGAS, BUT I LIKE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS BECAUSE YOU CAN GET MORE MARKETING IN PER PER CONCENTRATED SPACE. RIGHT. OKAY. ARE YOU STATIC? OH, LET ME FINISH. AND THEN AND THEN SO THE COMPANY WHO RUNS THAT MARKETING, THEY WOULD SHARE REVENUE WITH THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE, THE RENTAL, THE LOCATION, HOW MUCH REVENUE ARE WE TALKING HERE? I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I KNOW IT IS A IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS EVERY LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, BUT YOU, YOU REALLY WANT TO LOOK LIKE LAS VEGAS. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE LAS VEGAS, THEN MOVE TO LAS VEGAS. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. I JUST USED THAT AS A KNEE JERK. HOLD ON. SO, SO SO BEFORE WE BEFORE BEFORE YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU GOT TO SAY, FIRST OFF, IT'S OKAY. THEORETICALLY, DIGITAL BILLBOARDS NUMBER WHERE NUMBER ONE, WHERE ARE WE PUTTING THEM? WHAT CITY PROPERTY DO WE HAVE? THEY CAN GO ON NUMBER TWO, WHAT'S THE COST AND ARE WE GOING TO BE COMPETING? YOU KNOW, ARE WE PICKING WINNERS WINNERS AND LOSERS. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE THERE'S ONE ON PALM BAY ROAD. 
          IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE. THE ONE ON 91 ON US, ONE ON US ONE. YEAH. VERY EFFECTIVE, VERY EFFECTIVE. 
          BUT AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHERE WHERE ARE WE PUTTING THEM? YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE THING. I MEAN, IT'S GOT A LOT, IT'S GOT SOME GOOD IDEAS. 
          AND THAT THE COST WOULDN'T BE TO US THOUGH. IT WOULD BE TO, WELL, THE WHOLE IDEA. BUT REMEMBER WE'RE THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. WE'RE NOT ATLANTA, YOU KNOW. AND YOU KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE. AND WE'RE NOT A MARKETING, YOU KNOW, COMPANY. WE'RE GOVERNMENT AGENCY. I AGREE THIS IS A REVENUE RIGHT. SO LOOK FOR IDEAS DOWN THERE ON THE GOALS. GENERATE SUSTAINABLE NON-TAX REVENUE WHILE MAXIMIZING THE VALUE OF PUBLIC ASSETS. WHAT WHAT REVENUE IS NON TAXED. OH SIMPLE QUESTION. I MEAN WHAT DOESN'T THE GOVERNMENT GET THEIR FINGERS INTO THAT. YOU CREATE REVENUE AND YOU BRING IT INTO YOUR POCKET. WHAT REVENUE DOES THE GOVERNMENT NOT REACH INTO YOUR POCKET? THAT'S THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. I'VE NEVER LOOKED AT THE TAXES. I'VE NEVER LOOKED AT THE TAXES FROM THE CITY. THE THE CITIES PAY SURE TAXES, BUT WE ALL PAY TAXES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. CITY, CITY OF MELBOURNE. YEAH, SURE. YEAH. OH WE DON'T KNOW. I THINK SO ON ANYTHING. WELL, NO, I MEAN THERE ARE THINGS THAT LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE GO TO THE HOTEL AND DON'T GET OUR TAX RECEIPT, WE PAY THE TAXES. BUT THE LIKE IT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE'RE A TAX EXEMPT ORGANIZATION. I THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE GENERATE GENERALLY SPEAKING, GENERALLY SPEAKING GENERALLY. YEAH. OKAY. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THE REVENUE COMES IN. I HAVE A DIFFERENT QUESTION. I WANT TO KNOW WHICH BUILDINGS WE'RE SELLING THE NAMING RIGHTS TO. LIKE, WELL, NO, NO, NO, LIKE, NO. LIKE IN YOUR MIND, WHEN YOU WROTE THIS DOWN, WHAT BUILDINGS WERE YOU THINKING OF? LIKE, IS IT THE CHICK FIL A MELBOURNE CITY HALL GARAGE OR IS IT NO, NO, LIKE, LIKE THE AUDITORIUM. 
          OKAY, SO JUST THAT ONE. THERE'S NO OTHER NOW, BUT THERE'S NO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE MAKES SENSE. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. LIKE, WHAT'S YOUR VISION WAS THE AUDITORIUM, THE VISION WAS AUDITORIUM. L3 HARRIS, EDDIE TAYLOR COMMUNITY CENTER. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE NAMING BUILDINGS AGAIN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS OR TO DECIDE, BUT THE ONE, THE ONE THAT WAS IN MY MIND WAS THE AUDITORIUM OR A NEW CONVENTION CENTER. YES. AND THAT'S FINE. BUT BUT AGAIN, WE ALSO HAVE GUARDRAILS AND WE'RE NOT I'M NOT PROPOSING TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE LUDICROUS OR JUST THAT'S ASININE. BUT THE ONE THAT WAS IN MY MIND IS HE ASKED, I'M DIGGING THE HOLE AND THAT'S FINE. AND I AND I'LL DIG MY WAY OUT. SO NO, I DON'T I DIDN'T MEAN IT THAT WAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, AND THEN OKAY, THEN I HAVE A QUESTION. COMMERCIAL GROUND LEASES AND COMMERCIAL LEASES. WHAT ARE WE LEASING? SO 
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THERE ARE EXAMPLES WHERE CITY BUILDINGS, RIGHT. YOU LEASE THE ROOFTOP FOR CELL PHONE TOWERS. 
          YOU LEASE. SO AND THE GROUND IS THE SAME. I MEAN, AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE DIGITAL BILLBOARD, THEY WOULD NOT OWN IT. IT WOULD BE LEASING IT TO THAT MARKETING COMPANY ON, ON THE ON TOP OF NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT GOES. SO AT&T WOULD BE ON TOP OF CITY HALL. I HAVE TO DO I HAVE TO DO TAXES. 
          YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW, I'M JUST YEAH. I MEAN I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BUT OKAY. OKAY. 
          YEAH. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND YOU AND IF THERE'S A SPACE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED TO LEASE THAT WOULD THAT WE DO WE LEASE OFFICES TO OUR STATE SENATOR. R. THIS IS LAND. AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT BEING USED. WHAT COULD WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE USED FOR? WELL, WE'VE GIVEN THE VA THE DAVDVADAVDAV PROPERTY. I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, THE THE MOST OF THEM ARE ALL NONPROFIT. THEY'RE THERE'S NOBODY THAT WE LEASE PROPERTY TO AND IT'S, IT'S FOR NONPROFIT. SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? WELL, IT USED TO BE WITH THE VA WAS WHAT THE. DAVE. I'M SORRY. IT WAS LIKE A YEAR, A DOLLAR A YEAR. IT USED TO BE A DOLLAR A YEAR FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT HAS BEEN LOCALLY BECAUSE MY MOTHER HAD TO TAKE PAY THE BILL. THAT'S WHY I KNOW THAT ONE. NOW, ARE YOU GOING TO YOU WANT TO BE TAKING. YOU WANT TO CHARGE. I KNOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE GIVING AWAY THE. THE VA, WHERE THE VA D IS. I'M SORRY, DAV BUILDING GIVING THEM. SO NOW WE HAVE PROPERTY ON POST POST ROAD THAT HAD LIKE THE ROTARY AT ONE TIME WAS THERE THE BOYS ARE YOU GOING TO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CHARGE THEM? I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE CHARGING. 
          I'M NOT I'M NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE ANYBODY BUT THIS. BUT AGAIN, IN ASSESSING BECAUSE HERE WE ALL JUST WENT THROUGH A WHOLE LIST AND WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT ALL THAT WE HAVE. SO I'M NOT I'M NOT PROPOSING TO CHARGE ANYBODY ANYTHING MORE. BUT AGAIN, HAVING A A BIG PICTURE VIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T WE DON'T DO THAT HERE IN THE CITY. 
          THERE'S NOBODY THAT IS COMES IN HERE TO LEASE ANY OF OUR, OUR, OUR PROPERTIES. THAT IS FOR PROFIT. IT IS ALWAYS BEEN A NONPROFIT ENTITY THAT WE HELP TO BECAUSE THEY, THEY HELP WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I WOULD ALWAYS, WOULD ALWAYS BE THAT WAY. WELL, WELL, WE UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND TOO. I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MACEDONIA, THEY, THEY PURCHASED A BUILDING THAT HONESTLY, THEY'LL USE A LOT BETTER THAN WE WILL. 
          CORRECT. AND, AND, AND SO WE'VE DONE SOME GOOD THINGS. WE HAVE WHEN IT TALKED ABOUT REVENUE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE PAYING TO KEEP IT RUNNING. AND RIGHT NOW, LET THEM, LET THEM, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT THEY DO BEST. BECAUSE AT THE REALITY, WHEN YOU WERE TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT MACEDONIA AND I'M GOING TO PICK ON THEM RIGHT NOW, WHAT THEY DO, THEY'RE DOING IT BETTER THAN GOVERNMENT COULD. YES. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IN MY OPINION, I THINK THE HENDERSON IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, RIGHT? YOU LET THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GIVE THEM AND LET THEM BUILD, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE CITY OF COCOA IS STRUGGLING WITH THEIRS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO MANAGE. BUT OUR HENEGAR CENTER IS THE ENTREPRENEUR. I MEAN, SO, SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT TO PROPOSE CUTS OR ANYTHING, BUT ANALYZING AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR STRATEGY IS. AND THEN MAYBE THERE ARE SOME OTHER PROPERTIES OF LAND THAT COULD USE SOMETHING SIMILAR, OR IT COULD BE A COMMERCIAL USAGE. OKAY. TO MISS HANLEY'S POINT THOUGH, WE DO HAVE AND JUST PUSHING BACK, AS YOU WERE ASKED FOR ALL OF OUR MOST OF OUR, IF NOT ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE NONPROFIT, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY NONPROFIT. AND THEY IN OF THEMSELVES BRING IN TOURIST DOLLARS. SO BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, ROTARY CLUB, DELTA SIGMA THETA. YEAH, ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE CAN NAME THEM ALL NIGHT LONG, RIGHT? SO WE INCREASE RENT ON THEM. NOPE. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THAT. OKAY. WE HELP THEM TO INVIGORATE MORE TOURISM. NOW, THAT IS A GOOD POINT OF CONSIDERATION TO TAKE AWAY GIVE, YOU KNOW, GIVE RATHER THAN TO TAKE. CORRECT. 
          OKAY. MAYOR, ARE YOU DONE? YES. I LOVE THIS CONCEPT. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT HELPS REVITALIZE SOME OF OUR AREAS. IT HELPS, YOU KNOW, BRING PEOPLE IN. IT HELPS GIVE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS SOMETHING TO DO. RIGHT. AND IT WOULD PROBABLY INVITE MORE OF THE HIGHER PAYING YOUNGER POPULATION MAYBE TO OUR AREA. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD TAKE AN ENTIRE CITY DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. AM I WRONG? AM I NOT THAT THAT'S NOT A THING? MAYBE 
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PIECEMEAL IT A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE OR WHATEVER. BUT AGAIN, I REALLY LIKE THIS WHOLE CONCEPT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT DOLLAR SIGNS AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHY STRATEGY NUMBER ONE WAS THE STARTING POINT. IF WE GET STRATEGY NUMBER ONE, RIGHT, SIMILAR AS OTHER, I GAVE TWO EXAMPLES, INVEST ATLANTA AND THE G, B, C, A AND HOW THEY'VE DONE IT. AND THAT SMALL EXAMPLE. WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DOES? THEY DON'T GIVE US MONEY. OKAY. BUT BUT THAT'S BUT THAT'S NOT OUR JOB TO GET MONEY TO, TO GIVE US HAND OVER THEIR MONEY. THEY GENERATE BUSINESSES COMING IN LIKE, I'LL JUST USE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WHEN I WENT TO WHEN THE SOLAR ECLIPSE, WHO DID I CALL? I CALLED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WHAT HOTELS WERE AVAILABLE? WHERE WAS EVERYTHING? THEY WERE THE ONES WHO DID THOSE THINGS. THEY SAID, HERE'S A LIST OF OUR OUR HOTELS, THE ACTIVITIES. I DIDN'T CALL THE CITY. I DIDN'T CALL SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THAT'S TRIED AND TRUE FOR YEARS, THAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HELPS THE BUSINESSES AND BRINGS PEOPLE IN. OKAY, SO I'M FEELING THE CONTACTS FOR THIS AGAIN, WAS TO GENERATE REVENUE THAT WILL COME INTO. LET'S STAY ON THAT TRACK. 
          YEAH, LET'S JUST KEEP GOING. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. STRATEGY NUMBER SEVEN. AGAIN, WE I TOUCHED ON THIS. PURSUE EXTERNAL FUNDING CLASS ACTION SUITS. AND AGAIN, STRATEGY NUMBER ONE, IF WE GET IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT RIGHT AND IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT WHEN THEY START, LET ME USE GRANT THE GVCA WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED THAT WHEN THEY STOOD THAT CITY UP AND THEY SET UP THAT G V, C, A, AND FROM THAT THEY JUST BUILT A BRAND NEW VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK. SEE, WHEN YOU START SOMETHING, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE WHAT'S POSSIBLE AFTER YEARS OF MATURITY AND YEARS OF THINGS GOING WELL. TO YOUR POINT, I'M GLAD THAT THE BLUE MEMO CAME OUT BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE UPSET WITH THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT THAT TOOK STAFF OUT OF THE ENTIRE EQUATION AND DID NOT COMPLIMENT THEM AT ALL. SO THE REWORDING OF THIS, I APPRECIATE THAT. YES, SIR. MORE AND MORE THAN YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE GOT THEIR BACKS. YOU HAVE THEIR BACKS, RIGHT? BUT I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON THEIR HEADS AND UNDERSTAND. 
          WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF ATLANTA, ATLANTA MAYOR IS A STRONG MAYOR. AND THEIR THEIR THEIR FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT. SO THEREFORE, THE MAYOR THERE IS ALSO THE CITY MANAGER, YOU SEE. OH, YEAH. WHEREAS OUR. REMEMBER THE WAY. AND THAT'S WHY YOU'D HAVE TO PIECEMEAL THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AS ANYBODY ON COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE WE'RE PART TIME, YOU KNOW, I GUARANTEE THAT THE MAYOR, THE THE MAYOR OF ATLANTA DOESN'T MAKE $12,000 A YEAR. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT OUR CITY OF MELBOURNE MAYOR, I KNOW IS A IS A IS A VERY GOOD GUY. AND I KNOW THAT IF HE'S ON THE CHAIR OF SOMETHING AND WE ARE DOING, WE HAVE AN INITIATIVE TO GET FUNDING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. I BELIEVE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME RESULTS THAT COULD BE HAD. IT'S ALWAYS RESULTS IF YOU IF YOU PUT YOUR HEAD DOWN AND BUTT UP AND RUN LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE MELBOURNE METRO. WE WANT TO BEAT YOU IN BASKETBALL. WE KNOW YOU CAN. NEXT SLIDE. 
          LET'S GO. LET'S MOVE ON. YOU ALWAYS GO TO THE BASKETBALL. AND HE LOST TWO OUT OF THREE. 
          BUT GO AHEAD REAL QUICK ON YOUR LAST SLIDE BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO PUSH BACK ON SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY HERE. OKAY. I GOT TWO MORE. DON'T YOU WORRY. NO BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT ABOUT YOU. I DON'T WANT THE INTERPRETATION THAT OUR CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOESN'T DO EVERYTHING IN ITS POWER TO TO DO THESE THINGS. I MEAN, ADAM, JUST FOR FOR FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, THESE THINGS COME ACROSS YOUR DESK. SO YOU GUYS REVIEW THEM AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, RIGHT? YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ALWAYS SEEING INFORMATION FROM FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES INTERNATIONAL MUNICIPAL LAWYERS ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, THAT COME ACROSS. WE ANALYZE THEM AS AND DETERMINATION, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE. SOME ARE ALREADY IN THE SETTLEMENT FORM. IT BECOMES A DETERMINATION OF, ARE WE GOING TO STAY IN THE SETTLEMENT CLASS, OR ARE WE GOING TO TRY AND OPT OUT AND DO OUR OWN THING? SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO YEAH, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, AND WE AND WE REACHED OUT TO FROM OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS WITH, WITH ITEMS THAT MAY BE THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST. WELL, A QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, MR. CONNOLLY, IS AND I DON'T KNOW THIS ANSWER. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER. YOU KNOW, THEY YOU HAVE AN ASSOCIATION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU TALK TO WE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK TO FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ALL THAT YOU, I ASSUME AS A PROFESSIONAL CITY ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR GROUP AS WELL. I ASSUME THAT WOULD TELL YOU, HEY, THIS AIN'T A BAD IDEA 
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OVER HERE. YEAH. IT'S AFFILIATED WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AS WELL. YEAH. 
          SO OKAY. JUST MAKING. YEAH. AND I, AND I LEARNED A LOT WORKING. OUR CITY ATTORNEY DOES A GREAT JOB. AND I THINK WE I LEARNED A LOT. WE LEARNED A LOT FROM THIS LAST ONE. AND THE CONTINUANCE OF THOSE. SO SO NO, AGAIN, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT OUR STAFF DOES A WONDERFUL JOB, BUT IF WE ARE DOING THINGS LIKE THIS IS TO ENHANCE AND AUGMENT, NOT TO REPLACE OR TAKE AWAY. WELL, JUST LOOKS LIKE ON POINT NUMBER ONE TO MR. NEWMAN'S POINT IS THAT WE'VE SETTLED THAT THE PFAS, WE'VE SETTLED THAT WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND THIS COUNCIL. SO, I MEAN, JENNY'S NODDING HER HEAD. YES, UP AND DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADAM HAS TO SAY, BUT. BUT WE DID. I SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. CORRECT. BECAUSE I DON'T SUGGEST WE GO DOWN THIS ROAD, BUT WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS ROAD BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST FATHOMABLE THING THAT WE CAN DO AT THIS MOMENT. IT WAS ONE PARTICULAR FACET OF WHAT I WOULD SAY IS A MULTIFACETED THING. SO THE THE ONE, THE ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE AND THAT WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION ON, WAS SPECIFIC TO A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLIER SETTLEMENT. WITHIN THAT, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH IS REFERRING TO ANOTHER POTENTIAL ELEMENT DEALING WITH FIREFIGHTER EQUIPMENT. RIGHT? SO IT'S IT'S ANOTHER, IT'S IT'S ANOTHER, IT'S ANOTHER FACET DOG WITH A BONE CHEWING ON THE SAME BONE. NO, I BELIEVE HE'S REFERRING TO ANOTHER FACET WITHIN THE OVERALL SCOPE THAT'S WORTHY OF CONVERSATION. IT IS. AND AGAIN, AND TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER, I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE SORT OF THE STOPGAP. THEY'RE THE STARTING POINT OF THAT. SO BUT BUT IN YOUR POINT THAT THAT REALLY KIND OF GOES TO WHAT I'M SAYING HERE, BECAUSE THE THE LAND IS SO VAST AND THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT THAT. AND ONCE YOU BECOME AWARE AND MAYBE YOU WERE NOT AWARE BEFORE AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE AWARE AND YOU DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, YOU ANALYZE. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS POINTING TO. THAT'S VERY FAIR. YEAH I AGREE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU SIR. JENNY HAS A QUESTION. OH OKAY. MISS LAMB. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I HAVE A MEETING, I BELIEVE, NEXT MONDAY WITH ABOUT REGARDING SOME OTHER CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS THAT WERE A RESULT OF THAT ORIGINAL SETTLEMENT IDEA WAS FROM THOSE GROUPS. AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GETTING MORE INFORMATION ON. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL SHOULD WE THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE COMING, THOUGH? YEAH. MISS HANLEY, IF WE GET MONEY FROM THIS LAWSUIT, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO INTO GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE REMEDIATION MONEY USED FOR REMEDIATION. IT'S NOT GENERAL FUND MONEY. AND I WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT TO GO INTO GENERAL FUND MONEY, BECAUSE THAT MONEY IS FROM THE LAWSUIT TO TAKE CARE OF ANY PROBLEMS THAT WE DO HAVE REMEDIATION OF LANDS OR WATER OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT TO PUT THAT INTO GENERAL FUND. AND THAT'S JUST A ONE TIME DEAL. I'M I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE KEEP FEEDING ON THAT PFAS. IT'S JUST LIKE THE OPIOID MONEY DID NOT GO INTO GENERAL FUND MONEY. WE HAVE GOTTEN OPIOID MONEY. YES. 
          AND WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT? WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH IT? DID YOU NOT EVEN KNOW? I'M AWARE. YES. 
          AND I GO TO THOSE MEETINGS TOO. WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE OUR OPERATIONAL OBJECTIVE BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THE FUNDING. I MEAN, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. SO BUT BUT IT WAS NOT IN GENERAL. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. SO AGAIN YOU KNOW DOING THINGS TO CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN OUR SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP. AS WE KNOW, WE JUST WE DID, WE HAD THE FACADE, WE DID THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT. AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS AND THOSE WITHIN THE CRA. SO BACK TO THE POINT OF BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY DO SOMETHING CITYWIDE. SURE. NEXT SLIDE. ALMOST DONE. VERY SIMILAR. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT. WE DID SOME GOOD WORK WITH MACEDONIA. YOU KNOW THERE'S DEFINITELY THE CONTINUANCE OF THOSE THINGS WILL CONTINUE TO HELP OUR OUR CITY, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR BUSINESSES. AND FINALLY STRATEGY NUMBER TEN IS THAT DASHBOARD OF HOW DO WE MEASURE OUR ARE WE BEING SUCCESSFUL? HOW DO WE MEASURE. AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE ONCE YOU START TO MEASURE, YOU ACTUALLY START TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. AND, AND FINALLY, THE LAST SLIDE, MELBOURNE SHOULDN'T JUST BE EXPERIENCED GROWTH BACK TO THAT POINT. IT SHOULD STRATEGICALLY BENEFIT FROM IT. SO WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS WE CAN DETERMINE WHICH INITIATIVES WARRANT FURTHER EVALUATION. THEN IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT THEN STAFF CAN HELP US OUT. AS FAR AS WHATEVER LEGAL AUTHORITY STRUCTURE, ANY POTENTIAL CAUSE, BUT I DON'T. SO FAR, NOTHING THAT I HAVE UP HERE I DON'T BELIEVE HAS ANY. DEFINITELY NOT ANY LARGE COST, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME SMALL COST ASSOCIATED WITH SETTING UP A NONPROFIT 
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DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. RIGHT. $275, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT TELL US WHAT THOSE ARE. AND THEN AND THEN ANY MEASURABLE OUTCOMES. AND THEN AS STAFF RETURNS, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINES. BUT I LIKE WE ALL HAVE AGREED. AND, AND I HAVE IT IN HERE IN APPROACH, BUT THE REASON WHY IT'S A STRATEGY, NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE FOUNDATION OF CREATING THAT ENTITY AND THEN ALLOWING US TO HAVE ADDITIONAL WAY FOR FUNDING TO COME IN AND THE LATITUDE TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I LOVE ME, I LOVE MLB ONE CITY, TWO HISTORIC DOWNTOWNS, THREE HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND THESE STORIES, I THINK THAT THE, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WANT THAT WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THAT WE'VE ALREADY PARTNERED WITH ARE VERY PAROCHIAL, VERY PAROCHIAL. AND WE START GOING INTO SOME OF THEIR TERRITORY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SATISFACTORY FOR US, BUT THAT CAN GO THROUGH. THAT'S THAT'S JUST A KNEE JERK, KNEE JERK. AND SO MAYBE THE CONVERSATIONS WITHIN, WITH THE, WITH SENIOR STAFF ON THEIR SIDE AND OUR SIDE COULD PRESENT SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO AGAINST THE EDC. I DON'T WANT TO GO AGAINST THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE ALREADY PARTNERED WITH WITH THESE WITH THESE FOLKS. I MEAN, EDC WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THE CITY. AND THE AIRPORT IN AND OF ITSELF IS OUR ECONOMIC DRIVER. PERIOD. END OF PARAGRAPH. I MEAN, THAT IS IT RIGHT THERE UNTIL ANYTHING CATCHES UP UNTIL ALL OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES ARE DEVELOPED? I TRULY BELIEVE THAT. WELL, AND THERE'S OTHER STUFF COMING DOWN THE PIKE THAT WE WE CAN'T DISCUSS UNTIL OF COURSE, OF COURSE. YES. AND, AND I KNOW, AND I HAD THAT SAME CONVERSATION. AND ONCE WE ONCE WE GET SOME OF THAT NEXT MONTH, EVERYTHING GOES DOWN. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A IT'S GOING TO BE PHENOMENAL. AMAZING. YEAH I AGREE. PHENOMENAL. SO MAYOR, THAT'S THAT'S MY PRESENTATION AGAIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL STAFF FOR THE HELP AND, AND FOR BEING ABLE TO GET ALL THOSE BRAINSTORMING IDEAS OUT. HOPEFULLY WE FOUND SOME UTILITY AND MERIT AND VALUE IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE PRESENTED. AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION. YEP. SO, MR. SMITH, I'VE GOT HOMEWORK FOR YOU. THAT'S HOW I DID THIS, MAYOR. I. 
          GOT, I GOT, I DO NO, NO, I'M GONNA I GOT HOMEWORK FOR YOU. I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA BRING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN YOU YOU TALKED ABOUT THE REVENUE AND WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND STUFF. AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO GET THAT BROKEN DOWN. TALK TO WHOEVER YOU NEED TO WITH THE STATE AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. OR ARE WE NOT GETTING OUR SHARE OF THE CHANGE? AND HONESTLY, I'D LIKE YOU TO REPORT BACK TO THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP REVENUE WITH THE STATE, REVENUE WITH THE STATE. SO THAT TO ME, THAT'S YOUR HOMEWORK. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER NINE? NOW WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THEM. YOU START WITH NUMBER ONE. THEN YOU GET TO NUMBER TWO. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT HER IF YOU WANT TO. 
          THE WHAT? HARA HARA HARA PROPERTY. REGISTER THE PROPERTY REGISTER. OKAY. SO BASICALLY I'M READING OFF OF THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 13TH, 2024. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS? THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME. SO I'LL DIVERT THIS TO ANOTHER TIME BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY 10 TO 10 A.M. AND THIS WILL TAKE AT LEAST A HALF HOUR FOR ME TO GO THROUGH MY CONVERSATION. SO JENNY, CITY MANAGER, YOU THERE WAS SOME DATA, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY WANT TO DO THAT AS A. AND YOU, WE TALKED AS A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM TO JUST TALK ABOUT THAT. AND THEN I GUESS AT THAT POINT WE CAN MAYBE TALK ABOUT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE REVENUE BEFORE WE. 
          MAYOR BEFORE WE GET TO THAT. SO I TOOK THE TIME BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE BASED ON THE PAPER HERE AND THE DISCUSSION, INVEST ATLANTA SEEMED TO BE THE MODEL THAT YOU'RE GOING AFTER. SO I TOOK THE TIME TO PULL UP THEIR ANNUAL REPORTS. BECAUSE I'M A NONPROFIT, I'M A NONPROFIT NERD. 
          YOU'RE DOING MARCUS'S HOMEWORK. SO ANYWAY, SO IT'S A TEAM EFFORT. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I NOTICED THAT THE REVENUE SOURCE, I KNOW WE HAD ALL THE ALL THE ITEMS. THERE IS MOSTLY THESE TAX DISTRICTS. DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS. I ASSUME YOU MIGHT BE MORE THAN I AM. SO IT'S TAX DISTRICTS WHERE THEY'RE GETTING REVENUE INTO THE GOVERNMENT INITIATIVE. I THINK I BELIEVE THEY CALL IT. AND THAT'S HOW THEY GET THE MONEY. IS THAT DOES THAT AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY FIRST? SO MY QUESTION, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT DIDN'T START THAT WAY. AND BUT MY THING IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I THINK YOU'RE BETTER MODEL IS BECAUSE WE UNLIKE THE STATE OF GEORGIA, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT CONSTRAINTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I THINK THIS MAY BE BETTER AS AN INITIATIVE, AS MAYBE A NONPROFIT THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER, AND THEN YOU CAN 
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INVITE THE CITY WITH SOMETHING TO DO THAT, BUT MAYBE YOU START IT AS A NONPROFIT AND GO KIND OF THAT ROUTE AND FIND THAT REVENUE SOURCE AND GO THAT ROUTE INSTEAD OF IT STARTING FROM THE COUNCIL AND GOING DOWN. MAYBE IT STARTS FROM THE BOTTOM AND COMES ITS WAY HERE. THAT'S MY GUESSTIMATE OF WHAT YOUR BEST ROUTE WOULD BE IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO THIS, BECAUSE SOME OF THIS STUFF IS GOING IT. WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN INVEST ATLANTA, AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO WITH IT, BUT THAT I THINK THAT'S THE THE BEST PATH FORWARD FOR YOU ON THAT. INSTEAD OF US GOING THROUGH A BUNCH OF PRESENTATIONS ON THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER THING, IT'S CREATED, BUILD IT, BRING BACK AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE CAN BRING IN. BRING OUT ALL OF THAT BASED ON YOUR NONPROFIT BOARD, BECAUSE THEN YOU COULD INVITE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR CITY STAFF TO BE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD THAT CREATE YOUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THEN IT REALLY BUILDS THAT THAT KIND OF STRUCTURE. THAT'S WHAT I THINK WOULD BE YOUR BEST AVENUE, AND YOU'RE GETTING WHAT YOU WANT, JUST THE FLORIDA STYLE OF IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, I AGREE. SO TAX TAX DISTRICTS WOULD NOT BE THE PRIMARY. THAT WAS NOT THE OH NO I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S INHERENTLY DIFFERENT. WEST MELBOURNE, THE WEST MELBOURNE HAS ONE. SO THAT THAT THE THE WHAT DO YOU CALL RIGHT THERE 90 OR 95. YEAH. THAT'S HOW THEY BUILT IT. THEY WEST MELBOURNE, THEY IT'S A 1%. WHEN YOU GO BUY SOMETHING THERE, YOU'LL SEE A ONE. I THINK IT'S 1%, 1% TAX. 
          AND THAT PAYS FOR THAT SPECIAL DISTRICT. OKAY. RIGHT. BUT THEN WE'D HAVE TO ESTABLISH THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT. I THINK IT'D BE A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED. IT'D BE A LOT MORE COMPLICATED. 
          NO. WELL, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WEST MELBOURNE COULD. THAT SOUNDS VERY INTERESTING, THOUGH. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY. PULLED THAT ONE OFF. SO AGAIN THIS AGAIN THIS WAS A HOMEWORK AS A WAY OF CHALLENGE TO SAY WHAT COULD WE POTENTIALLY DO FOR TO INCREASE REVENUE OUT, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF AMENDMENT THREE IN LIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, MILLAGE, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY, YOU KNOW, SO HOPEFULLY THIS IS GOOD HOMEWORK AND WORTH THE TIME. SO YEAH, WELL, WE'LL DEFINITELY, I THINK A LOT OF THIS WILL COME INTO PLAY WITH THE AMENDMENT THREE. SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT TOO. AND INTERESTING PART THAT I PERSONALLY WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT WHETHER AMENDMENT THREE PASSES OR NOT, I STILL THINK THAT SOME OF THESE ARE GOOD THINGS THAT PUT THAT DOES GOOD THINGS FOR THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS. YEAH. SO. WELL, OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NOTHING ELSE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DISPOSE OF THIS OR WE JUST. WELL, NO, I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS, CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO 
          [19. Board Appointments]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 19. A THIS IS APPOINTMENT OF CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD OF OF MEMBERS. 
          KEVIN, ARE YOU DOING THIS OR JUSTIN. YES, SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR. THE TERM OF DAVID WALKER WILL EXPIRE ON NOVEMBER 11TH. HE WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REAPPOINTMENT. AND AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE BOARD ROSTER, THERE'S ONE REGULAR MEMBER VACANCY AND ONE ALTERNATE MEMBER VACANCY ON THE BOARD. SO FOLLOWING COUNCIL'S PAST PRACTICE, WE WOULD RECOMMEND REAPPOINTING DAVID WALKER AS A REGULAR MEMBER AND APPOINTING TYRONE BRYAN, WHO'S THE FIRST ALTERNATE INTO THE VACANT REGULAR MEMBER SEAT. IF THAT IS THE ACTION YOU TAKE, THE NEXT ACTION WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS USING THE NOMINATION PROCESS TO APPOINT TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS FROM THE THREE OUTSIDE APPLICANTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, AND CAN HELP WALK YOU THROUGH THAT IF NECESSARY. MAYOR, I RECOMMEND THAT WE HOLD ON. IF YOU LOOKED AT MR. WALKER. SORRY, I DON'T KNOW MR. WALKER AT ALL. I KNOW HIM VERY WELL. YEAH, I KNOW HIM VERY WELL. BUT HOW MANY OF THE LAST TWO YEARS, HOW MANY OF THOSE? HE HAS BEEN EXCUSED OR NOT PRESENT? SO I'M JUST LOOKING. NOTHING AGAINST HIM. I'M JUST GOING. WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW HIM WELL, THAT'S. WELL, LET HIM BRING IT UP. GO AHEAD, MA'AM, I'M JUST GOING ON. WHAT? WHAT IS PRESENT? WHAT WE'VE SAID BEFORE IS THAT HOW MANY OF THE. OF OF THE. HE'S BEEN EXCUSED. NOT PRESENT. EXCUSED. EXCUSED. EXCUSED. EXCUSED. EXCUSED. UNEXCUSED. UNEXCUSED. 
          IN HIS TIME PERIOD. SO I MEAN, DO WE WANT TO PUT HIM BACK ON THERE OR TRY OR PUT HIM AS AN ALTERNATE. NO, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT HIM ON. I'M ABSOLUTELY. YOU HAVE A FRIEND. HE'S NOT SO MUCH A FRIEND. HE'S HE'S A HE'S AN ENTITY IN BOOKER T WASHINGTON NEIGHBORHOOD, PERIOD. END OF PARAGRAPH. THAT'S ALL IT IS. AND IF HE HAS UNEXCUSED ABSENCES, WELL, THEN THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR IT. AND I WILL NEVER, NEVER VOTE AGAINST HIM NOT BEING ON THAT BOARD. SO I'LL JUST THAT'S HOW STRONGLY I FEEL ABOUT DAVID WALKER. AND HE AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER SINCE 2004 ON MANY ISSUES IN THAT IN THAT COMMUNITY. MAYOR. GOOD SIR. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OUR BOARDS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CREATING A ORIENTATION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CREATING A CODE OF CONDUCT AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE AND I KNOW WE STILL HAVE NOT CREATED THOSE 
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THINGS YET, BUT TO MISS HANLEY'S POINT, I MEAN, PARTICIPATION, PRESENCE, ENGAGEMENT ARE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO EVALUATE OUR OUR BOARD MEMBERS ON. I KNOW MR. WALKER REALLY WELL AND AND IT'S NOT THAT I WOULD VOTE AGAINST HIM, BUT I ALSO WOULD CHALLENGE HIM IN ORDER TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS TO OUR BOARD PARTICIPANTS THAT WE WANT YOU TO BE HERE. YOU'RE NOT WE DON'T WANT JUST WANT YOU TO HAVE A TITLE. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO JUST, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT YOU'RE ON THIS BOARD, BUT YET YOUR VOICE IS NOT BEING HEARD. AND THAT'S FAIR. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO MR. WALKER BEFORE WE RECOMMEND ANY. AND I MOVE THAT WE MOVE THIS ADVISORY BOARD DECISION TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. IS THAT POSSIBLE, OR DO WE HAVE TO FILL IT BY SEPTEMBER 13TH OR WHATEVER? MR. WALKER'S TERM ENDS ON NOVEMBER 11TH, SO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME, IF THAT'S YOUR DECISION. SO I WOULD INVITE HIM IF YOU WOULD, KEVIN, I WOULD INVITE HIM TO COME SPEAK TO COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. IS THAT AGREEABLE WITH EVERYBODY? I THINK THAT'S FAIR, YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. SO SO YOU'RE REQUESTING TO MOVE THAT? I'M REQUESTING TO MOVE THIS ENTIRE THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD TO THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE INTENT OF ASKING, INVITING MR. WALKER TO COME AND SIT IN FRONT OF US AND, AND CHAT ABOUT WHY THE UNEXPLAINED AND WHAT HIS VISION IS AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND HE'S BEEN ON. HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN ON THAT BOARD, KEVIN? WITHOUT HAVING THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST OVER TEN YEARS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO GIVE OR TAKE, I THINK WE OWE HIM THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA TO BECAUSE EVERYBODY WILL KIND OF GET WHAT THEY WANT. THE FACT IS, IS WE'LL SEE IF HE REALLY WANTS IT. NUMBER TWO, WE CAN SET A DECORUM. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA IF EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE MAYOR WE HAVE ONE REGULAR VACANCY THOUGH. IS THAT GOING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH QUORUMS? KEVIN? NO. WE HAVE A FIRST ALTERNATE THAT HAS BEEN SERVING IN THAT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A QUORUM ISSUE, BUT THERE'S A DESIRE FROM HOUSING TO TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE BOARD. 
          BUT TWO WEEKS SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. BUT IS THERE ANY REASON WHY MR. BRYANT COULD NOT BE APPOINTED THIS EVENING? WELL, I'M CHANGING THE ENTIRE THE WHOLE THE WHOLE IDEA, THE WHOLE IDEA OF IF DAVE, WE KEEP DAVID WALKER THERE OR WE DON'T, IT COULD CHANGE WHERE HE GOES. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. AND WE CAN FILL THAT NEXT MEETING, IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, MA'AM, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE I THINK I HEARD MAYBE I HEARD WRONG, BUT ON THIS CHART, DAVID WALKER HAS EXCUSED ABSENCES AND ONLY ONE UNEXCUSED. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. YEAH. OKAY. YEP. SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT THEN. THEN WE'RE AT 19 B CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. THANK YOU MAYOR. THE TERMS OF JAMES TEAL, THOMAS SAM, RICK DRYDEN, TERRY FULTON AND CHRISTOPHER TENCATI WILL EXPIRE ON OCTOBER 14TH. THREE OF THOSE MEMBERS, MR. TEAL, MR. SAM AND MR. DRYDEN WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REAPPOINTMENT. 
          MR. TENCATI INTENDS TO FINISH OUT HIS TERM BUT DOES NOT WANT TO BE REAPPOINTED AT THIS TIME. 
          AND SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL TWO REGULAR MEMBER POSITIONS VACANT. MISS FULTON, WHO SERVES AS AN ALTERNATE BOARD MEMBER, HAS EXPRESSED HER INTEREST IN BEING A REGULAR VOTING MEMBER. AND THERE'S ONE OUTSIDE APPLICANT, MELINDA LAGO, WHO IS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE BOARD. SO IF THAT WAS COUNCIL'S DESIRE, THE RECOMMENDED ACTION WOULD BE TO REAPPOINT JAMES TEAL, THOMAS SAM AND RICK DRYDEN AS REGULAR MEMBERS AND APPOINT TERRY FULTON AND MELINDA LEGUILLOU AS REGULAR MEMBERS, AND WILL CONTINUE SOLICITING APPLICATIONS TO FILL THE OTHER VACANCIES. OKAY, GOOD. SO WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE. WE HAVE MR. TEAL. WAS IT TWO MONTHS AGO? A MONTH AGO THAT CAME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD HERE? AND HE CODE ENFORCEMENT, DO WE WANT HIM TO BE STILL ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD WHEN WE'VE HAD TO LEAVE HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY? YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. WHETHER THAT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT. WELL, NO, I THOUGHT WE AGREED TO PAY THE. YEAH, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT HOW MANY. IT WAS A LONG PROCESS TO GET HIM TO, TO COME INTO CODE. AND HERE HE IS ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. I WILL SAY, MISS HANLEY. I MEAN, HE YOU KNOW, HE DID THE THERE WERE SOME MEDICAL ISSUES RELATING TO THAT. HE DID BUY A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. DID MOVE IT. YES, YES. 
          IT TOOK HIM LONGER THAN WE WOULD HAVE LIKED. WELL, I'M I'M NOT I'M NOT OFFERING EXCUSES. 
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BUT HE DID COME BEFORE US AND HE DIDN'T GET A BREAK. SO I, I, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE REAPPOINTED NOBODY. HE DIDN'T HE DIDN'T GET ANY FAVORS WHEN HE GOT GOT. A MATTER OF FACT, IT PROBABLY WORKED AGAINST HIM. YEAH. IT DID. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING AND HE TECHNICALLY IS PAYING HIS DEBT. I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH HIM AGAIN. YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA SAY? BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU. YEAH. SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD MOVE TO REAPPOINT JAMES TILL THOMAS AND RICK DRYDEN AS A REGULAR MEMBERS AND APPOINT TERRY FULTON AND MELINDA GULLO AS REGULAR MEMBERS. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. AND I VOTE AYE. AND IT SIX ONE. MOVING ON TO THE ITEM C THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS FOR THE HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. THERE ARE THREE VACANCIES ON THE BOARD, ONE REGULAR MEMBER SEAT AND TWO ALTERNATES. YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT THIS WAS JUST BEFORE YOU, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER VACANCY DUE TO THE RESIGNATION OF A REGULAR MEMBER. THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER REVIEWS THE APPLICATIONS ON FILE FOR US AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINT THE OUTSIDE APPLICANTS, AND BASED ON THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS TO APPOINT ANTHONY BUSSONE AS A REGULAR MEMBER AND KENNETH REYES AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER. 
          OKAY. COUNCIL. APPOINTMENT. I REQUEST THE APPOINTMENT OF ANTHONY BASSAN AS A REGULAR MEMBER AND KENNETH REYES AS AN ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVE MEMBER. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, BY MR. NEWMAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE ON THAT. 
          MOTION PASSES. SO NOW WE'RE IN THE PETITIONS. REMONSTRANCE. COMMUNICATIONS. I WANT TO GO FIRST, MR. NEWMAN. SURE. WHY NOT? MOST. JUST A COUPLE OF MORE HOUSEKEEPING THINGS THAN ANYTHING. JENNY. I WAS APPROACHED BY THE LIBERTY BELL MUSEUM. APPARENTLY, THEY JUST REDID THEIR ROOF WITH THEIR OWN FUNDS. AND I'M STILL MAKING MY WAY THROUGH THE PARTS OF THEIR AGREEMENT THEY HAVE WITH THE CITY. THEY SEEM TO BE HAVING SOME FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES OR WANTED SOME SUPPORT ABOUT. I BELIEVE IT'S AN A C UNIT. HAVE HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT IN THE CITY AT ALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THEY WANTED TO, I THINK, COME AND ASK, BUT THEY WANTED TO DO IT THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS. WOULD YOU RECOMMEND I SEND THEM TO YOU? THE PHONE CALL HAPPENED TODAY OR ELSE I WOULD HAVE CALLED YOU EARLIER. DO YOU WANT ME TO HAVE THAT? I WOULD RECOMMEND THEM CONTACT MY OFFICE. OKAY. I DO KNOW THAT THE LIBERTY BELL MUSEUM, I MEAN, I BELIEVE, AND I'M GOING OFF MEMORY, THEIR LEASE DOES SAY THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR THEIR UPKEEP. I DO THINK THAT COUNCIL MADE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, AND WE PAID FOR PART OF THEIR ROOF. AND AND THAT WAS LIKE SUPPOSED TO BE A ONE TIME DEAL. OKAY. 
          AND NOW THIS SEEMS LIKE IT IS RECURRING AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO, TO HANDLE THEIR END OF THE LEASE, BUT HAPPY TO LISTEN TO THEM, SEE WHAT ALL THE DETAILS ARE. YEAH. THE THING IS, BECAUSE, MR. NEWMAN, I THINK THE ONLY CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE COMING IN THE BUDGET IS IF WE GIVE THEM 60 GRAND. AND I ALSO SPOKE WITH MR. ELY. OH, OKAY. OKAY. WHERE DO WE TAKE THAT 60 GRAND FROM? GOT IT. SO WE'RE LIKE A ZERO BUDGET KIND OF THING HERE. SEE, THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME A NUMBER. THEY ASKED ME ABOUT THE PROCESS. SO THEY ASKED YOU FOR WAS IT 6000. 
          THAT'S THAT WAS THE NUMBER. MAYBE MASSIGLI WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FORTHCOMING WITH ME. OKAY. 
          GOT IT. AT THAT TIME. AND THEN I DIDN'T TALK WITH HER SPECIFICALLY. YEAH. AND I SPOKE WITH HER YESTERDAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT HER REQUEST THEIR THEIR BOARD IS GOING TO REQUEST FOR ABOUT 60, IF NOT 60, THEN WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR TWO AIR CONDITIONERS OUT OF FIVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF ARTIFACTS THERE FROM THE CITY OF MELBOURNE THAT ARE HISTORIC. 
          AND OF COURSE, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE LIBERTY BELL MUSEUM. GOTCHA. SO JUST GIVING YOU ANOTHER BRINGING IT FROM 10,000 TO 5000FT, YOU KNOW, PERFECT. YOU DO NAMING RIGHTS THERE. AND DAVID NEWMAN NO AC COMPANY. IT'LL ONLY COST YOU 44,000. I'M SURE, I'M SURE. YOU PUT YOUR NAME. JUST TWO MORE THINGS WHEN THEY CAME IN. I ONLY GOT YOU FOR FOR THE ONE EARLIER, JENNY. BUT THE FRONT STREET ROAD PROJECT. IS THAT STILL OUT TO BID? CAN I JUST. I HEARD FROM THEM AND THEY JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE HOA THERE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE SITUATION FOR THE RESIDENTS. I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE CHECKED WE STAFF WAS THE BIDS CAME IN WAY HIGH. STAFF WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THE WORK INTERNALLY AND. AND THEN ALSO, I MEAN, WE BID LIKE THE PARTS AND COMPONENTS AND AND, YOU KNOW, OBTAIN THOSE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. BUT STAFF DO THE WORK. I WILL ASK FOR ANOTHER UPDATE ON THAT. I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES DIVISION, OUR DEPARTMENT, THE STREETS DIVISION, HAD AGREED THEY COULD DO THAT WORK FOR US. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. BUT I DID TELL THEM AT THAT TIME THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE PAVING PART TO LET THEM KNOW, BUT I IMAGINE WE WILL BE USING THE PAVING, WHO WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT TO DO THAT TYPE OF PAVING. SO HAPPY TO GET THE PAVING INFORMATION, BUT WE 
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HAVEN'T CONTACTED THEM YET ABOUT DOING THAT. I WANT TO SEE WHERE THERE THERE'S THAT. YOU KNOW I'LL CHECK ON THE STATUS. YEAH. WE'RE GOOD. AND THEN JUST MY LAST THING IT WAS INTERESTING ON THE AND THIS IS FOR KEVIN. THIS WAS ON THE CITY CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD. ONE IS THERE MORE SO INFORMATION ON THIS SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION THAT HAS. FOLKS HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEIR INCOME. LIKE I KNOW IT SAYS IT'S NOT IN CODE OR ANYTHING. IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE DO OR. I'M JUST CURIOUS. IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE INTRUSIVE. PROBABLY PROBABLY MORE OF A CINDY QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE HOUSING AND URBAN IMPROVEMENT DIVISION, BUT I THINK IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF TRYING TO GET A BROAD SPECTRUM OF, OF INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THAT, WHETHER THAT'S REQUIRED OR NOT. I'LL LET HER. YEAH. I GET WHY I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE SERVING IF THEY HAVE TO MAYBE SHARE MORE ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL LIVES THAN THEY MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE WITH. RIGHT. WE ARE LOOKING INTO THAT TO SEE IF IT IS STILL A REQUIREMENT. IT HAD BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK. 
          OKAY, SO JUST MAKING SURE WITH HUD AND EVERYBODY, IF YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN AND JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL MEMBERS ARE JUST SOME MEMBERS BECAUSE OF CDBG OF THE BOARD, DO ALL MEMBERS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT OR IS THAT JUST CERTAIN THAT A CERTAIN IT'S ON THE APPLICATION? OKAY. IT'S ALL OF THEM. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THAT'S IT. SO I KNOW WE ALL GOT THE EMAILS FROM SAMANTHA NAZARIO. I DON'T HAVE MY PHONE WITH ME TO PULL THE EMAIL BECAUSE I GOT LOCKED OUT OF MY EMAIL. I'LL GET THAT FIXED SOON. BUT APPARENTLY HER MOTHER OF VELMA NEGRON HAD PASSED AWAY, AND I GUESS SHE WAS A HUGE ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, DID A LOT OF THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          SHE POINTED OUT THAT HER MOTHER HELPED RAISE 1,000 POUNDS OF SUPPLIES FOR PUERTO RICO WHEN THAT HURRICANE HIT SOME YEARS AGO. SO SHE SHE WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD DO AN HONORARY STREET NAMING FOR DALE AVENUE, WHERE HER MOTHER HAD LIVED, JUST TO NAME IT AFTER HER, LIKE, DUDE NEGRON WAY TYPE THING. NOT NOT FOR CHANGING THE PEOPLE'S LICENSES OR ANYTHING, BUT DOING THAT HONORARY THING UNDERNEATH. DIDN'T WE HAVE DIDN'T WE GO THROUGH ALL THIS THE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO THAT WE SET A STANDARD OF APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, OH, THIS, DO THIS, DO THIS, DO THIS, DO THIS. OKAY. I THINK I ASKED BECAUSE I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT PART. OKAY, I GOT A PROCESS AND I BELIEVE THAT MISS LAMB SENT THAT PROCESS OUT TO SAM IN RESPONSE TO THE EMAIL THAT WE PROBABLY ALL SENT TO HER. OKAY. WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR THE HONORARY STREET RENAMING. I DO BELIEVE I'M GOING OFF MEMORY AGAIN, BUT I THINK I THINK THAT COUNCIL HAS TO INITIATE THAT BY CONSENSUS. AND THEN WE COME BACK, I BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A RESOLUTION OR JUST FOR FOR WITH THE RESOLUTION FOR THE HONORARY STREET NAME CHANGE. I DID SEND AN EMAIL ONCE THAT REQUEST CAME IN EXPLAINING WHAT THE PROCESS WAS. I SENT THAT TO ALL OF COUNCIL ALSO. SO I THINK SHE KNEW THAT PROCESS AND THAT'S WHY SHE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF COUNCIL ABOUT IT. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE UP, THEN WE JUST NEED THAT DIRECTION. OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE AGREEABLE TO? I'LL TALK ABOUT IT. SURE. I'LL TALK ABOUT IT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. NO. NO HURT, NO HARM, NO FOUL. YEAH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE THAT FOR. NODS TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T DECIDE ON IT. 
          WE TALKED. WE ALREADY HAD THE PROCESS. YEAH. I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT HER RELATED TO THE PROCESS, ABOUT HER MOM, ABOUT HONORARY NAMING OF A, OF A, OF A PARTICULAR STREET. IT WOULD BE A PROPOSED RESOLUTION WITH STAFF'S ANALYSIS OF THE FACTORS FOR CONSIDERATION AND CRITERIA FOR THAT HONORARY RENAMING. AND THEN ULTIMATELY COUNCIL'S DECISION. RIGHT. SO I SAY YES. 
          HAVE WE MET? TALK ABOUT IT. TALK ABOUT IT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ON A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING? YES, YES. ONCE WE DO THE RESEARCH AND WE CAN BRING IT BACK. OKAY. OKAY. I'M SEEING AT LEAST THREE, IF NOT FOUR. SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH THAT. DO NOT KILL THE MESSENGER. OKAY? THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS I'VE BEEN DOING THAT ALL WEEK THOUGH. 
          DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER ON THIS ONE BECAUSE AT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE AND ALL THAT, WE, THE FAST GROUP MET AGAIN. AND WE TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. THE MAMBO, WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT OF BUDGET IN THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE, HAS PUT OUT. 
          IF WE GET GRANTS. I DO HAVE JENNY. I THINK I'VE GOT IT LATE THIS AFTERNOON. WHAT WAS SAID ON THERE? HOLD ON A SECOND. IF WE GET FEDERAL GRANTS, THEY CAN TERMINATE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GRANTS. WHEN WE GET PAYMENTS, THEY CAN TERMINATE. LET'S SAY WE GOT A GRANT FOR THE SEWER 
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SYSTEM THEY'RE PROPOSING. IF IT DOESN'T MEET THEIR. WHAT WAS IT? HOW DOES THE TERMINATION WORD. 
          LET ME REWRITE. MANDATE IS WRITTEN TO JUSTIFY PAYMENT OF GOD. I CAN PASS THROUGH. IT COULD BE TERMINATED IF THE SUBSCRIPTION MAKES A PUBLIC STATEMENT DEEMED REP. REP HARMFUL TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO IF WE DON'T IF THEY DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, WE SAID, THEY CAN TERMINATE OUR GRANTS OF FEDERAL GRANTS GOING FORWARD. THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, WHICH IS I KNOW, DON'T, DON'T DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER. I'M JUST GIVING IT. 
          THIS CHANGE COULD HAPPEN OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, AND IT WOULD BE $1 TRILLION IN ANNUAL FEDERAL ASSISTANCE. SO I KNOW THAT THE. THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IS FIGHTING THIS ONE, BECAUSE HOW CAN WE GO FORWARD IF THEY SAY IT IS NOT IN PUBLIC INTEREST, NOT ONLY IF WE SAY SOMETHING DEROGATORY, BUT THEY DON'T FEEL IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST ANYMORE, THEY CAN STOP THE GRANTS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, THAT WE WOULD BE ON HOOK FOR A BILL OR SOMETHING, OR A LAW THAT THE IT'S IT'S IT'S PASS. YEAH. IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YES. I KNOW WE AWARDED A GRANT. 
          WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT. I KNOW, BUT THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THE PROTOCOLS. I SAID, DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER. I WILL, I WILL. YEAH, I'M NOT KILLING YOU. OKAY? IF I WAS KILLING YOU, YOU'D KNOW IT. BUT I MEAN, I WILL SEND IT. I MEAN, I WILL SEND THIS TO I WILL SEND IT TO JENNY SO EVERYBODY CAN READ IT BECAUSE IT IS VERY. IT'S SCARY BECAUSE LET'S I ALWAYS MY BIG THING IS THE WATER AND SEWER PLANTS GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE THEY'RE ONE OF OUR MOST EXPENSIVE THINGS THAT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY. SO I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR GRANTS FOR THOSE THINGS. THOSE ARE MY LIKE PET PROJECTS TO LOOK AT. SO BUT IS THAT AND THINKING ME IN THE GRANT WORLD. RIGHT, RIGHT. IT IS WHAT I'M THINKING OF. WHO RULE IS THAT GOING TO BE? IS THAT LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE? EVERYBODY LABOR LIKE WHO? LIKE IT'S THE IS IT THE APPROPRIATIONS IN APPROPRIATIONS? LIKE WHO? THEY DON'T HAVE QUITE EVERYTHING DONE YET. OH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE CERTAIN PEOPLE, CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS PUT OUT THOSE GRANTS. SO LIKE, IT COULD BE THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE PUTTING OUT THAT GRANT SO THEY CAN, BUT THEY CAN STILL PULL IT BACK. DOESN'T MATTER WHICH DEPARTMENT, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE PULLED BACK. THAT'S INTERESTING. YEAH. 
          YOU'LL GET IT TOMORROW MORNING. PUT THAT FORWARD. THE OTHER THING IS THOUGH, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN AT THE LEAGUE ON THE SECOND SESSION DAY. HE WAS THE SENATOR WHO WENT AFTER THE WORDING FOR AMENDMENT THREE. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY SAW HIM, BUT I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT. HE SAT UP THERE AND HE'S LIKE, HOW DANGEROUS THIS AMENDMENT THREE IS THAT NOBODY'S LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE KIND OF ON A HIGH. WE. IF YOU'VE LIVED HERE IN FLORIDA, ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, WE HAVE HIGH TIMES, WE HAVE LOW TIMES. WE GO UP AND DOWN. AND THIS COULD DEVASTATE THE WHOLE STATE AND EXPLAINING. AND HE GOES, WE HAVE TO LOOK. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE DO OUR FUNDINGS FOR OUR THINGS, HE SAID. BECAUSE THE BABY BOOMERS, WHO ARE THE ONES COMING IN THE STATE AND PUSHING EVERYTHING IN 20 YEARS, THE OLDEST BABY BOOMER IS 80 YEARS OLD. THE YOUNGEST BABY BOOMER IS 62, 64, 62 YEARS OLD. SO IN 20 YEARS, THEY'RE THE LARGEST GROUP OF PEOPLE WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY, THE BABY BOOMERS. THEY STILL CONTROL A LOT OF THINGS BECAUSE THE NEXT GENERATIONS ARE A LOT SMALLER, BECAUSE THEY SAY IN 20 2050, WE WILL BE EVEN THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WILL BE EVEN SO THAT EVERYBODY ONE DIES, ONE GETS BORN, OR WE MIGHT EVEN GO BACKWARDS. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING. YOU KNOW, FLORIDA IS ALWAYS AND THIS IS WHAT HE BROUGHT UP. FLORIDA'S ALWAYS BEEN ON THE THING. WE'RE GROWING, WE'RE GROWING AND WE'RE GROWING. WE'RE GROWING. THAT'S HOW WE'RE ABLE TO DO THE THE SEWER PLANTS, THE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY. NOT LIKE YOU SAID, THE CONDOS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE CONDOS? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEY FIGURE IN 20 YEARS THEY'VE LOOKED AT THE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GLUT OF PROPERTIES IN THE STATE. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS A LOT DIFFERENTLY. YES. YOU KNOW, I MISS MARCUS. MR. SMITH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY THINK OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE BOXES AND WHERE THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE HAVE STUDIED, WHERE WE NEED TO GO FOR THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. AND ANOTHER THING IS I'D LIKE TO PUT ART IN HERE, 
          [03:45:07]
BUT I KNOW I KEEP SAYING THAT, BUT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY RIGHT NOW, I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE ONE OF THE WE HAVE THE ART LEAGUE HERE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. IF WE COULD MAYBE TALK TO THEM AND HAVE A CONTRACT. MR. CONNELLY, HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM SO THAT WE COULD PUT ART UP IN THE CITY HALL AND HAVE IT ROTATED, LEASED FOR A LEASED FOR A YEAR, THAT WE COULD HAVE ARTWORK HANGING IN OUR LOBBY THAT WOULDN'T COST US ANYTHING, BUT IT WOULD MAKE OUR LOBBY OKAY. WHAT ARE WE HAVING? SUCH A FROWN? OH, NO. I'M. I'M. I'M THINKING THAT A FORMAL AGREEMENT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY. OUR CURRENT DONATION POLICY MAY CONTEMPLATE A SORT OF CONDITIONAL DONATION. RIGHT. IF IT WAS FOR A PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD THAT MY MY BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD BE, WELL, NO, IT'S IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER ENDS UP BEING DISPLAYED IS BECAUSE THE CITY CHOSE AND SAID, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DISPLAY. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO CREATE IS A SPACE WITHIN CITY HALL THAT SAYS, OKAY, ART, ART GROUPS COME IN AND BRING IN YOUR YOUR ITEM AND DISPLAY IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A FORUM FOR, FOR PRIVATE SPEECH. I WANT TO MAKE IT A, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S AN ART EXHIBIT, IT'S BECAUSE THE CITY HAS DECIDED THIS IS THE ART DISPLAY THAT WE WANT TO PRESENT. WE HAVE JUST SAYING LANDSCAPES HERE IN THE CITY, IN THE PROPER CITY OF MELBOURNE, THAT LANDSCAPING PICTURES OF LIKE. THE THE GRANTS OR NOT GRANT GRANTS, FRONT STREET, THINGS LIKE THAT, BALLARD PARK OR DIFFERENT AREAS OR EVEN JUST AROUND THE AUDITORIUM THAT WE HAVE. WOULD EVERYBODY BE IN AGREEMENT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T LIKE THAT. MR. NO, BECAUSE I I'M REMINISCENT OF THE PUBLIC ART FIASCO THAT HAPPENED ON EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD, ACROSS FROM THE FURNITURE PLACE AND WHAT THAT CAUSED AND WHAT THAT REMEMBER THAT PUBLIC ART, ALTHOUGH. BANK OF BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING. YEAH, YEAH. THE OLD BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING. SO THERE HAS TO BE A COMMITTEE THAT APPROVES OR DISAPPROVES, HOWEVER, THAT LOOKS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO WITH THAT. BUT NO, CAN WE BECAUSE I HAVE THIS. I WANT TO DONATE IT FOR A YEAR TO HANG THEIR CARTOON. I CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE MAYBE IF WE HAD A SMALL COMMITTEE THAT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE ENOUGH STRUCTURE TO ME. ALL I'M DOING IS REFERENCING THE. YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S ALL I TAKE IT. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I WOULD NOT GO FOR IT. HOW ABOUT IF WE HAD SOMEBODY. THE MELBOURNE MAIN STREET HAVE A COMMITTEE SINCE ITS MAIN STREET IS NOT CITY COUNCIL. I KNOW, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY COULD HAVE A MELBOURNE OR THE CRA. CAN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THAT THEY WOULD LOOK OVER WHAT AND THEN BRING IT. I THINK THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE, STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, DETERMINING WHAT IS PUBLIC ART AND WHAT ISN'T AND WHAT IS OFFENSIVE AND WHAT IS NOT. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE'VE GOT TWO CONVERSATIONS GOING ON SIMULTANEOUSLY. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. ANYWAY, THAT THAT THAT'S MY OPINION. YOU KNOW WE GOT TO DO I'VE GOT ONE VOTE. YOU GOT ONE VOTE. WE'VE GOT SEVEN VOTES UP HERE. SO YEAH. SO. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WAS WAS REALLY GOOD THE SECOND TIME AROUND. I JUST Y'ALL THINK Y'ALL SAW MY TRIP REPORT. I CAPTURED SOME OF ONE THING THAT WAS NOT ON THE TRIP REPORT BECAUSE I'M ON I'M ON AN ADVOCACY COMMITTEE. IN ADDITION TO FATS WAS THAT THERE WAS ONE OF THE SPACE, NOT THE SPACE COAST. THERE WAS A LEAGUE OF CITIES, I FORGET WHICH ONE IT WAS, BUT THEY CREATED THIS REALLY GREAT EDUCATE ON THREE TYPE OF PEN, AND THEY PASS IT OUT AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE IT TO WHERE IF WE GO TO OUR SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DUPLICATABLE. 
          BUT I WAS GOING TO EVERYBODY KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOOD. SO I THINK THAT NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THE PRIMARIES, THE GENERAL FEELING IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHIFT OF EDUCATION ON THREE SO THAT THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW CAN MAKE A MUCH MORE BETTER INFORMED DECISION AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF RIGHT NOW IT'S THE VERBIAGE AND IT'S MORE EMOTIONAL. SO SO LOOKING LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. 
          AND I THINK WE ALL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY, SOME KIND OF ROLE TO PLAY IN THAT. I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUTTON WHO HANDED THAT OUT? THAT WAS AT THE AT THE ADVOCACY MEETING. NO, NO NO, NO. WHO SPECIFIC? SO LIKE I SAID, HE'S CREATED THAT. I THINK IT SAYS ON THERE. I THINK IT'S PEMBROKE PINES. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S EDUCATE NOT RIGHT. WE CAN'T SAY WE CAN'T SAY IT'S LIKE I'M GOING TO USE. I'VE HAD A LOT OF MY CLIENTS HAVE CALLED ME AND ASKED ME ALREADY ABOUT THIS 
          [03:50:06]
AMENDMENT THREE. AND I, I WAS REALLY SURPRISED HOW MANY OF THEM ARE AGAINST THIS. THEY'RE VOTING NO. THEY'RE GOING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR. 
          THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT INSURANCE. YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING. THAT'S MY BIGGEST THING IS WITH MY CLIENTELE IS THE INSURANCE RATHER THAN THE PROPERTY TAX. WE GET THE SERVICES THERE. THAT'S THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG THING WITH A LOT OF VOTERS. ONCE THEY ONCE THEY REALIZE WHAT'S GOING ON. YEAH. SO SO MAYOR, I THAT'S IT. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO MY PRESENTATION. MAYOR JUST GOT A YOU TURNED ME OFF, KEVIN. I'M TELLING YOU. THANK YOU. YOU TURN ME OFF AUTOMATICALLY ON PURPOSE. ALL RIGHT. SO I WAS CONTACTED BY THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THEM FACILITATING A CANDIDATE FORUM FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. IT MAY INCLUDE WEST MELBOURNE AND MAY INCLUDE INDIALANTIC. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO, BUT FOR. AT ONE OF OUR FACILITIES. BUT AT A FREE AT NO COST, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE O'GALLEY CIVIC CENTER OR MELBOURNE AUDITORIUM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT GETTING THE WORD OUT OF THE CANDIDATES WHO ARE RUNNING FOR LOCAL OFFICE. SO THEY ASKED ME TO ASK YOU GUYS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT. CAN WE? OR CITY ATTORNEY. I GUESS IT IT WOULD ALL DEPEND ON THE LEVEL OF CITY INVOLVEMENT, RIGHT? IF IT'S SIMPLY LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WANTING TO HOLD A A FORUM AND INVITE CANDIDATES THAT THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE ON THEM. I MEAN, IF WE DONATED TWO HOURS OF A, OF A, OF A COMMUNITY CENTER, WOULD THAT BE IN VIOLATION OF ANY KIND OF ETHICS CODES? WELL, HOW ABOUT I GET BACK TO IT? THAT'S SOMETHING I'D HAVE TO I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO. OKAY. SO WE'LL HOLD THAT UNTIL NEXT MEETING. OKAY. I WANT TO SAY WHO CHANGED THE DARN CLOCK. I MEAN, SERIOUSLY. 
          OH, I'M GLAD SOMEBODY ELSE NOTICED THAT. YEAH, IT'S BEEN BOTHERING ME ALL NIGHT. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE OLD ONE I POINTED OUT? I THOUGHT I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY. YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE THE CITY CLERK CLOCK THEY JUST GOT RID OF. OH, BOY. ALL RIGHT. I DO WANT TO THANK MR. NEWMAN FOR GOING DOWN TO THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WHEN I. I HAD TO BAIL AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND I HAD TOUCHED BASE WITH YOU AND YOU HAD TOUCHED BASE WITH WITH JENNY. AND I APPRECIATE YOU FILLING IN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGING TIME FOR ME, AND I DO WANT TO THANK MR. SMITH FOR HIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ON THE ON THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE. THAT'S ALL I ASK OF ANY OF US, WHEREVER WE TRAVEL, WHATEVER WE DO, JUST PUT IT DOWN ON PAPER. LET US ALL READ IT. LET US ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY, THAT'S ALL I GOT, VICE MAYOR. I WAS GOING TO BRING UP THE FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT I THINK WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THAT EARLIER. SO WHAT ABOUT THE CAMERAS? YEAH. DON'T GO THERE. IF YOU WEREN'T LISTENING, PHONE A FRIEND. ANYTHING ELSE, VICE MAYOR? ONLY. ONLY HAVE TWO THINGS. ONE, IT WAS BROUGHT TO 
          [D. PETITIONS, REMONSTRANCES, AND COMMUNICATIONS]
MY ATTENTION. THERE'S THERE'S, THERE'S A THERE'S A STREET. WELL, LET ME JUST BACK UP. MR. AJ HIRES HAD CALLED AND HE SAID HE HAD AN ISSUE AT US ONE. WELL, WHERE HIS. MR. BUCCI DEALERSHIP IS. THERE'S. YEAH, BUT THERE'S A SIDE ROAD NEXT TO HOUSE OF LIGHTS. AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY GOOGLE WORKS, THAT IT CAN'T FIND ITS LOCATION. SO HE MENTIONED, HEY, IS THERE ANY WAY BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE, IT'S NOT A CITY ROAD THAT I CAN, YOU KNOW, GET I NEED TO GET A NAME ON IT. SO I, I SAID, I HAVE NO PROBLEM BECAUSE HE DOES A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR HE PAID FOR ALL THE DOG FOOD AND THE SHELTER THING AND I LIKE TO NAME IT. AJ HIRES ROAD NOW THAT HE WOULD BEAR ALL COST. IT WOULDN'T COST THAT MUCH TO. WELL, HE WOULD KNOW I'D MADE IT CLEAR THAT. LISTEN, HE'LL HE'LL HE'S LIKE, NO PROBLEM. HE'S LIKE, I DON'T I'M I'M FINE WITH THAT. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT? NO. GO AHEAD. WELL, WE DON'T ACTUALLY NEED COUNCIL ACTION. I DON'T BELIEVE AT THIS POINT, ALTHOUGH THE FACT THAT YOU SUPPORT IT IS GOOD. OKAY. AND IF YOU CAN, IF I CAN GET WHOEVER AT AJ HIRES PHONE NUMBER SO THAT WE CAN CONTACT THEM, REALLY IT'S JUST THE REQUESTER NEEDS TO EMAIL BREVARD THE ADDRESS TO SIGN. I HAVE I HAVE INSTRUCTIONS ON ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND THEN WE BRING IT BACK AS A RESOLUTION FOR A PRIVATE DRIVE. AND THEN WE KEEPING IT AS A PUBLIC. WAIT A MINUTE. IT'S A PRIVATE IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S SORT OF LIKE 
          [03:55:05]
WHEN WE DO THE, WE DO THE RESOLUTIONS FOR A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY THROUGH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. WE HAVE SOME PRIVATE DRIVES OFF OF LIKE THE TURTLE MOUND LAKE WASHINGTON AREA. AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT, AND THAT'LL HELP WITH THE GOOGLE MAPS AND THINGS. YEAH. THAT'LL ONE ONE ALL OTHER STUFF. YEAH, IT COULD HELP WITH THAT. BUT THEN OUR CITY ENGINEER ALSO HAD A CONTACT TO, FOR GOOGLE TO WHO TO CONTACT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADDRESS IS GETTING RECOGNIZED PROPERLY TO. YEAH. AND APPARENTLY HE SAID THAT SPEAKING TO THEM, IT SENDS THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S NO NAME ON IT THAT GOOGLE AND THEY AND THEY TOLD HIM THE WAY TO SOLVE IT, THE NEED TO BE A SIDE STREET OR SOMETHING. 
          THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS, IS I, I SPOKE WITH A COUPLE PEOPLE. I KNOW ONE OF THEM'S THE OWNER OF AMERICAN AIR PLUMBING AND HEAT OR ELECT ELECTRIC. THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO PURCHASE THE OLD ABC BUILDING HERE IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. BUT HE IS COMMITTED TO FUNDING THE. THE CHRISTMAS PARADE. ARE YOU SERIOUS? THE FULL AMOUNT, THE FULL. OH, YEAH. HE WAS GOING TO DO THAT. AMERICAN AIR PLUMBING AND ELECTRIC JOE KILMER CHRISTMAS THIS YEAR FOR THE WHOLE WHOLE THING. EVERYTHING. OH MY GOSH. YEAH. SO SO YEAH, HE'S A HE'S AND I'VE KNOWN JOE A LONG TIME. AND YOU KNOW, HE ASKED, I SAID PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, UPWARD 20 GRAND OR WHATEVER. THAT'S FINE. HE CONTACTED YOUR OFFICE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THEY'RE NOT JUST SPONSORING. THEY APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT TO CONDUCT THE PARADE. AND THEIR PLAN IS TO CONDUCT IT THROUGH DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE SO THAT COST WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS OKAY. THROUGH MELBOURNE OR THROUGH THROUGH DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE, LIKE SAINT PATRICK'S DAY, 4TH OF JULY FROM THE FIREHOUSE. IT USED TO BE NOT. YEAH. NOT THROUGH HIBISCUS, WHICH IS WELL, CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT TOO IS, IS, YOU KNOW, DOWN HAVING THAT KIND OF IN ONE OF THE DOWNTOWNS BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD BRING MORE BUSINESS AND STUFF TO DOWNTOWN, DOWNTOWN. O'GALLEY. THIS TIME EVERY ALL THE PARADES ARE GOING DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. LET'S BRING IT DOWN TO O'GALLEY. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S NOT AS LONG OF A ROUTE, BUT MAYBE IT WILL COST LESS MONEY FOR THEM. WELL, MAYBE EVERY OTHER YEAR, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER YEAR. OKAY. HEY, I ONLY GOT EIGHT MEETINGS LEFT, SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO YOU AND ME BOTH. SIX MORE. RIGHT? BUT YEAH, THAT SO SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WE GOTTA, WE REALLY GOT A KICK. BUT NO YOU DON'T. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST GO OUT WITH A BANG. SO BUT WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. CORRECT. I MEAN HE'S GOT EVERYTHING. OKAY. SO THAT SHOULD BE IT. LIKE I SAID THAT THAT KIND OF REALLY HELPS US OUT A LOT ON, ON THAT. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND END THE MEETING AT
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