Sep 09, 2026 City Council

[1. Invocation]

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RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, WILL REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AND SUBMIT THE COMPLETED FORM TO SERGEANT ARMS. WHEN YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED YOU. THE MICROPHONE ON THE LECTERN ON THE AUDIENCE'S RIGHT AND EITHER STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR YOUR NAME AND CITY. BE MINDFUL OF THE TIMER ON THE LECTERN AND WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE YOUR SPEAKING TIME. IN THE TIME LIMITS ARE POSTED ON THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE. A PERSON WHO HAS A LEGAL STANDING TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER WILL BE PERMITTED ENOUGH TIME, AS DETERMINED BY THE COUNCIL, TO CREATE A RECORD FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY PERSON WHO MAKES A PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, SLANDEROUS REMARKS BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION. IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND. AND TONIGHT, THE INVOCATION BE GIVEN BY THE HONORABLE MR. BARKER. WOW. WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN A WORD OF PRAYER. HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE GATHER TO SERVE THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, WE PAUSE TO REMEMBER THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001, A DAY THAT FOREVER CHANGED OUR NATION. WE REMEMBER THE LIVES THAT WERE LOST, THE FAMILIES WHOSE LIVES WERE FOREVER CHANGED, AND FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS, FIRST RESPONDERS, MEMBERS OF OUR MILITARY AND ORDINARY CITIZENS WHO DEMONSTRATED EXTRAORDINARY COURAGE AND SACRIFICE. MAY WE NEVER FORGET NOT ONLY THE TRAGEDY OF THAT DAY, BUT ALSO THE UNITY, COMPASSION, AND SPIRIT OF SERVICE THAT BROUGHT OUR NATION TOGETHER IN THE DAYS THAT FOLLOWED. LORD, BLESS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND ALL WHO CALL IT HOME. PROTECT OUR POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOSE SERVING OUR NATION. BLESS OUR CITY STAFF, OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS, FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS. GRANT OUR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILS WISDOM, HUMILITY, COURAGE AND DISCERNMENT AS WE MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THOSE WE SERVE. MAY WE HONOR THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE US BY SERVING FAITHFULLY TODAY AND WORKING TOGETHER TO BUILD AN EVEN STRONGER COMMUNITY FOR TOMORROW.

AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. ROLL CALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER. HANLEY. COUNCIL MEMBER. SMITH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. LARUSSO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NEUMANN. COUNCIL MEMBER. BASSETT HERE. VICE MAYOR KENNEDY HERE. MAYOR ALFREY. AND I'M HERE. ITEM FOUR PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATION DON'T HAVE ANY. AND SO WE'RE

[5. Approval of Minutes - August 25, 2026 Regular Meeting]

[6. City Manager's Report]

IN ADDITION TO THE WRITTEN PART WE DID, YOU HAVE HAD SEVERAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM ME ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM, AND THE FACT THAT WE SUSPENDED IMMEDIATELY SUSPENDED THE USE LAST TUESDAY. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BAGGING THE CAMERAS RIGHT NOW UNTIL THEY CAN BE REMOVED. AND WE STARTED WITH THE TERMINATION OF THE CONTRACT. WE STILL DIDN'T KNOW THE EXACT COSTS INVOLVED ON WHAT WE WERE GOING TO, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY. BUT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT, AS POINTED OUT DURING THE BUDGET HEARING, WE WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY ANY OF NEXT YEAR'S MONEY TOWARDS THE CONTRACT TO TERMINATE IT. AND WE DO HAVE THERE IS A FEE TO REMOVE AND ELIMINATE THE CAMERAS, AND IT'S A PER CAMERA FEE. AND ALSO WE ARE CHECKING INTO WHERE WE ARE WITH THE INVOICES FOR THIS YEAR AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE UP TO DATE PAID. AND WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR ANY MORE THAN WE SHOULD. IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT WE WILL HAVE ANY COSTS THAT SPILL OVER INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS WHY WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THE FULL 9000 IN. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS LAMB? I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT THAT I WANT

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AND VICE MAYOR, MA'AM? I JUST WANT TO TAKE WHAT YOU TWO SAID AND JUST SUM IT ALL UP INTO ONE BIG COMMENT FOR ME. I THINK WE DO KNOW AND RECOGNIZE, ALONG WITH THE CHIEF, THAT THE FLOCK CAMERAS REALLY HELPED OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. HOWEVER, WITH ALL THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON, I THINK IT IS RESPONSIBLE OF US TO SUSPEND THEM, TO NOT HAVE THEM FOR NOW, UNTIL WE SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF LEGISLATION, WHAT COMES OUT OF TALLAHASSEE AND SEE HOW WE CAN REGULATE THEM SO THAT THEY ARE USED RESPONSIBLY. OKAY. GOOD, GOOD. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK OUR CHIEF AND AND STAFF FOR WHAT I THINK WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I KNOW IT WAS HARD AND I KNOW IT WAS A IT HELPED. I KNOW IT DID HELP YOU GUYS, BUT IN THE END, I THINK WE DID THE RIGHT THING. MR. RUSSO, SIR. YEAH. THANKS, CHIEF. APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. BUT TECHNOLOGY IS HARD. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST GO AROUND. YOU KNOW, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN TECHNOLOGY, IT GAVE US A PATHWAY TO SOMETHING. BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT JUST YET. SO YOU'LL HAVE A TOOL SOON ENOUGH. THERE'S TOO MANY ENTREPRENEURS OUT THERE AND TOO MANY TECHIES THAT'LL TAKE THIS UP AND CLEAR IT UP AND MAKE IT FATHOMABLE FOR FOR ALL CITIES AND ALL COUNTIES AND ALL STATES. BUT THANKS TO CHIEF. YOU KNOW, MR. RUSSO, WHAT I FIND INTERESTING TOO, IS LATELY, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IN THE NEWS, BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS WHO'S SOUNDING ALARMS ON AI AND THE DANGERS, POTENTIAL. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING. AND I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GENERALLY AS A SOCIETY CAN GET A HANDLE ON IT AND NOT LOSE OUR HUMANITY. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE WE ARE ALL HUMANS. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE WATCHED, YOU KNOW, GROWN UP TO THE POINT WHERE NOW A LOT OF YOUNGER PEOPLE, THEY LIVE THEIR LIFE ON A PHONE OR IN WHATEVER IN FRONT OF THEIR FACE. AND I DON'T I DON'T LIKE SEEING THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL DOES A GREAT JOB IN INVESTING IN PARKS AND, AND ITS REC SPACES. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET BACK TO WHERE WE WAS AND, YOU KNOW, GREEN GRASS AND, AND ENJOYING, YOU KNOW, OUR PARKS AND, YOU KNOW, OUR FAMILIES. SO THAT'S WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IN THIS WORLD. MAYOR, SIR. YEAH. SINCE, SINCE WE HAD THAT SIDE OF THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE THIS SIDE. I'M GOING TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY FELLOW COUNCILMAN LARUSSO. SO BEING AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER BY DEGREE FROM GEORGIA TECH, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT YOUR TECHNOLOGY IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING, RIGHT. AND WE KNOW IT WAS A TOUGH DECISION. AND I KNOW THAT OUR POLICE CHIEF IS DEFINITELY A LEADER AND WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. AND COUNCIL WE PROVIDED WE HAD A VERY SPIRITED DISCUSSION. BUT BUT SOMETHING IS PROBABLY GOING TO COME ALONG THE WAY. WE KNOW THE RING CAMERAS AND EVERYONE HAVE RING NOW IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, AND WE SEE THE DIFFERENT VIDEOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A SOCIETY TO WHERE TECHNOLOGY AND AI IS HERE, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S MUCH BETTER. IT'S BETTER FOR US TO LEARN HOW TO USE IT, BUT USE IT IN THE RIGHT WAYS AND NOT USE IT TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE VIOLATING, VIOLATING PRIVACY OR VIOLATING ANYBODY'S RIGHTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT DECISION FOR OUR CITY AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS. BUT, BUT WE DO NEED TO BE MINDFUL AND BE AND AGAIN, BE PROACTIVE. SO THAT WAY WE ARE ABLE TO DO THINGS THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR PEOPLE SAFE OR REDUCE CRIME, CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE BETTER. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE SOMETHING WE'LL REVISIT AS TIME MOVES FORWARD. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. AND I WILL SAY REAL QUICK, MR. SMITH, I MEAN, WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT LAW ENFORCEMENT, I BELIEVE, AGAIN,

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[7. Public Comments]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TONIGHT. MY NAME IS JEFF KEEL. I'M THE CEO OF PROMISE IN BREVARD. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT AWARE OF PROMISE, WE ARE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES TO LEARN AND TO LIVE A LIFE OF INDEPENDENCE. WE'VE GOT 125 RESIDENTS WORKING THERE, AND ONE OF OUR CORE MISSIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS IS TO HAVE EMPLOYMENT. SO WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE, MAINTAIN JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY, A NUMBER IN MELBOURNE, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN OPERATION WE SET UP ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WHICH IS A MAILING AND FULFILLMENT CENTER, AND WE STARTED IT OUT WITH A CONTRACT. WE WERE ABLE TO GAIN A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE. SO IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE AND YOU GET A WATER BILL, WE PROCESS THE MAILING OF THAT WATER BILL. SO EVERY MONTH WE HELP THEM WITH MAILING ABOUT 5000 OF THOSE INVOICES. AND WHAT IT DOES FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS JANELLE. SHE LIVES AT PROMISE. AND LINDSAY IS OUR JOB COACH. AND SO WHAT WHAT IT DOES IS, YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS THERE AND JANELLE WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY WANT TO LIVE THE LIFE WE ALL LIVE. AND THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, HOUSING, FRIENDSHIPS, SUPPORT EMPLOYMENT. AND SO WE HELP THEM WITH THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE JUST DID A PROJECT FOR L3 HARRIS. AND SO I, YOU ALL HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU. AND WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU TODAY IS TO CONSIDER SOME OPPORTUNITIES YOU MIGHT HAVE WITHIN THE CITY TO HELP PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR JANELLE AND SOME OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE. FOR EVERY PROJECT WE DO, IT'S NOT A HUGE PROFITABLE ENTERPRISE FOR US, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES SOME SPENDING MONEY AND SOME INCOME FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE. AND AGAIN, IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT PROVIDING THEM WITH THE LIFE THAT WE ALL ASPIRE TO HAVE. LITTLE KNOWN FACT PROMISE IN BREVARD IS A BLESSING TO THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE AREN'T A LOT OF PLACES LIKE IT IN THE COUNTRY, AND WE HAVE A LONG WAITING LIST FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE IN A PLACE LIKE THAT. MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS LIVED AT HOME WITH THEIR PARENTS, NEVER THOUGHT THEY'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE A LIFE OF INDEPENDENCE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HELP PROVIDE FOR THEM. AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THAT CITIES LIKE MELBOURNE CAN, CAN HELP WITH THAT IS TO HELP PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. SO AGAIN, I'VE LEFT YOU THIS LEFT YOU SOME INFORMATION AND ANY TYPE OF PROJECTS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST MAILING ANYTHING. IT COULD BE PACKING, IT COULD BE ANY, ANY TYPE OF ACTIVITY THAT IS KIND OF AN ONGOING REPETITIVE THING. THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP WITH. SO WE APPRECIATE CONSIDERATION FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. OKAY. REAL QUICK, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN PROMISE FIRST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOT OFF THE GROUND AND I'M VERY, YOU KNOW, HONORED TO HAVE THIS IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M GOING TO PERSONALLY PUT THIS THE INFORMATION OUT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND I SAID, I DEFINITELY I'M GOING TO PUT THIS OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I HAD JUST FOR THE LAST 28 DAYS, I LOOKED TODAY JUST ON SOCIAL MEDIA VIEWS. I WAS RIGHT AT 500,000, HALF A MILLION IN SOCIAL MEDIA VIEWS. LOVE IT.

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[8. City of Melbourne's Firefighters Retirement System]

REPORTING ON THIS. YEAH, I CAN DO THAT NOW. OKAY. ADAM'S GOING TO READ THE ORDINANCE AND THEN SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN ITEM, BUT ORDINANCE 2026-31, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT SYSTEM, MAKING FINDINGS, AMENDING CHAPTER 44 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED RETIREMENT AND PENSION AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION PLAN, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND INTERPRETATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING AN ADOPTION SCHEDULE. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT SIR. HOW ARE YOU DOING, SIR? GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, DR. PRASAD, DOCTOR PRASAD, HR DIRECTOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS RELATED TO ARTICLE 44 OF THE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION. JUST TO CONTEXT, IT COVERS ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT, THE BATTALION CHIEF AGREEMENT, IT COVERS THE FIVE NEW BATTALION CHIEFS. SO SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE COVERED IN THIS PLAN, IT COVERS FOR THE ACTIVE MEMBER. THE CONTRIBUTION WILL INCREASE FROM SEVEN AND A HALF TO 8%.

ELIMINATION OF THE 6.5% CONTRIBUTION FROM DROP MEMBERS IN THE PLAN, AND ALSO ADDITIONAL 2% OF AVERAGE FINAL COMPENSATION FOR DUTY DISABILITY, AS DETAILED IN THE IN THE ACTUARY STATEMENT, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF PROPOSED CHANGES IS ABOUT 243,077. THAT IS AN INCREASE FROM 4,000,466 149 TO 4,000,709 226, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 2.16%. STAFF IS ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO CURRENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

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AMENDMENT TO THE CURRENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. REVISING ARTICLE 30 FIREFIGHTERS PENSION AND RETIREMENT PLAN AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. SECOND, OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND BY MR. NEWMAN. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE.

OKAY. ALL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE AND THAT MOTION PASSES AND GO TO BE MAYOR. YES. APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-31. SECOND. OH WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND BY MR. NEWMAN. ROLL CALL. VOTE FOR FOR THE ORDINANCE. COUNCILMEMBER HANLEY. COUNCILMEMBER SMITH, COUNCILMEMBER LARUSSO. COUNCILMEMBER NEWMAN, COUNCILMEMBER BASSETT. VICE MAYOR KENNEDY. MAYOR ALFRED, CAN I VOTE? AYE. AND THAT

[9. Ordinance No. 2026-30, Zoning Code Text Amendment Request - Public Use: (Second Reading/Public Hearing) An ordinance amending City Code, Appendix B, Article V, Section 2(D) Table 1B, to allow a public use to be a permitted use within the C-1 and C-3 zoning districts. (Applicant - City of Melbourne) (P & Z Board - 8/6/2026) (First Reading - 8/25/2026)]

COUNCILMEMBER LARUSSO. COUNCILMEMBER NEWMAN. COUNCILMEMBER BASSETT. VICE.

MAYOR. KENNEDY. MAYOR. ALFRED. I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM

[10. Surface Water Treatment Plant Filter Expansion Improvements, Project No. 31320.]

THAT WAS TO KEEP SUBCONTRACTORS ON SITE. AND SOME OF THE RJ SULLIVAN EMPLOYEES. AT THIS TIME, RJ SULLIVAN INTENDS TO ABANDON THE PROJECT. THE SURETY HAS PROPOSED TO ENTER INTO A TENDER AND RELEASE AGREEMENT TO REPLACE RJ SULLIVAN WITH A NEW COMPLETION CONTRACTOR, WHICH IS LAWRENCE LEE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. THE TENDER AGREEMENT IS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE CONTRACT, EXCEPT THAT IT PROVIDES AN UPDATED, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE OF DECEMBER 30TH, 2028, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 600 DAYS BEYOND THE ORIGINAL COMPLETION DATE. CITY AND GAIC HAD COMPETING POSITIONS ON WHY THE TIME HAD TO BE EXTENDED. SO THIS IS A NEGOTIATED A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT, WHICH BOTH PARTIES HAVE AGREED NOT TO PURSUE, LIQUIDATED DAMAGES OR DELAY COSTS AND ADDITIONAL OTHER DAMAGES. THE CURRENT CONTRACT BALANCE TO FINISH THE PROJECT IS 16,000,007 77687. HOWEVER, THE THE CONTRACTOR, LAWRENCE LEE, PROPOSES TO COMPLETE THE WORK FOR $20,845,300. THEREFORE, JIC HAS

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SO JIC IS PROVIDING THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE COMPLETION CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND DO THE WORK. WE HAVE WORKED WITH LAWRENCE LEE CONSTRUCTION BEFORE AND WE'RE HAPPY WITH THEIR WORK. THEY JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED CANOVA BEACH PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS. SO ONCE THIS TENDER AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED, THE CONTRACTOR BETWEEN THE COMPLETION CONTRACTORS PRICE AND THE CURRENT ONCE OR ONCE EXECUTED, THEN WE WILL ENTER INTO A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT BETWEEN LAWRENCE LEE AND THE CITY, AND THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE A NEW PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT BOND AND A PROPOSED ASSIGNMENT, ASSUMPTION AND AMENDMENT OF CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, RJ SULLIVAN AND LAWRENCE LEE IS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA ITEM TO HAVE RJ SULLIVAN ASSIGN THE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO LAWRENCE LEE AND ASSUME THE RIGHTS AND OBLIGATIONS. THIS WILL REQUIRE A BUDGET RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE FUNDS FROM THE SURETY AND THE REQUESTED ACTIONS. THERE ARE THREE APPROVAL OF THE TENDER AND RELEASE AGREEMENT WITH GREATER AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY TO IMPLEMENT COMPLETION WITH LAWRENCE LEE. B IS THE APPROVAL OF THE ASSIGNMENT, ASSUMPTION AND AMENDMENT OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR LAWRENCE LEE TO COMPLETE THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK WITH AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS, WHICH ARE SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM OF CURRENTLY BEING PRESENTED, AND C IS THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION APPROPRIATING THE BOND FUND PROCEEDS TO. IN THE AMOUNT OF THE $4,067,612.52. OKAY. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MAGNOLIA? GO AHEAD. HI, JEN. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF RJ S COST US $4 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT I'M HERE OR AM I MISSING? IT DIDN'T COST US $4 MILLION. BUT IN ORDER FOR THE NEXT CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND ASSUME THE SAME WORK FROM TODAY'S DATE ON, IT WILL COST THEM $4 MILLION MORE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. A LOT OF THE MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT WAS ORDERED EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT, WHICH MEANS WERE THEY DELIVERED OR ARE THEY JUST ON ORDER? AND THEN THE NEW CONTRACT, A LOT HAVE BEEN DELIVERED AND ARE BEING STORED ON SITE. THE FILTERS THEMSELVES ARE STILL IN PROCESS OF BEING BUILT. SO BUT THEY HAVE THERE HAS BEEN PAYMENTS MADE AND PROFIT THAT WENT TO RJ SULLIVAN OR. HOWEVER, THEY DECIDED NOT TO PAY THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS. BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE COMING DOWN TO. RIGHT. CORRECT. OKAY. WE'RE. AND WE'VE DECIDED NOT TO LITIGATE FOR ADDITIONAL COSTS OR DAMAGES AGAINST THEM. CORRECT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S A MISTAKE. BUT YOU GUYS DO THE YOU GUYS THERE'S THE WITH THE YEAH. WITH THE ADDITIONAL TIME THAT COSTS ADDITIONAL MONEY.

AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF NEGOTIATING BACK AND FORTH TO COME OUT WHERE THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IS NOT PAYING ANYTHING OUT OF POCKET TOWARDS THIS CONTRACT. THAT WAS MY CONCERN BASICALLY RIGHT FROM THE START. OKAY. THAT WAS GOOD, MR. CONNOLLY. THAT WAS THAT WAS ULTIMATELY OUR BOTTOM LINE, RIGHT. AS, AS AS JENNIFER SAID, RIGHT. THIS THIS PROCESS STARTED BACK IN APRIL, AND WE'VE SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH BOTH THE SURETY COMPANY AND THEIR CONSULTANT COMPANY. WE'VE HAD RESPECTFUL DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT THE NATURE OF THAT. AND SO I THINK I THINK JENNIFER WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE TIME FRAME AND MOVING THIS PROJECT ALONG AND TRYING TO STILL HAVE AN APPROPRIATE COMPLETION DATE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAN TRYING TO NECESSARILY RECOUP EVERY POSSIBLE DOLLAR. AND SO THAT AGAIN, RIGHT, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A, IT WAS A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT. WE ARE WE'RE PROBABLY POTENTIALLY LEAVING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY ON THE TABLE, BUT WE'RE GETTING THIS PROJECT DONE IN A, IN A TIMELY FASHION AND NOT HAVING ADDITIONAL FUNDS OUT OF POCKET FOR, FOR THOSE UNDERLYING COSTS. AND THEY COULD HAVE SHOPPED AROUND TO LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR. THIS WAS A CONTRACTOR THAT WE ACTUALLY WEREN'T OPPOSED TO. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD HAVE LOOKED FOR SOMEBODY CHEAPER AND. YEAH.

YEP. MR. LARUSSO, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? NO I DON'T EVERYTHING'S ANSWERED. WELL,

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IT IS, BUT THE ELONGATED DATE THOUGH. ADAM, YOU SAID THAT DONE. BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE 600 MORE DAYS THAN THE COMPLETION DATE WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR. SO THAT'S ALMOST TWO YEARS LATER. YEAH. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW THE PATHWAY. RIGHT. YEAH.

BUT AND ONE THING I WANT TO BRING UP KIND OF JUST A QUICK COMMENT, I KIND OF LOOKED INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT. I THINK THE ALSO JUST FOR OUR STAFF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT I MEAN, THE RJ SULLIVAN I KNOW THEY'RE COMING OFF THE JOB, BUT THEY, THEY'VE ALLOWED THEIR, THEIR GC LICENSE TO GO DELINQUENT. SO JUST SOMETHING YOU GUYS WANT TO KNOW THAT IF WE CAN GET THIS THING SWITCHED OVER QUICK, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. CONNOLLY IF THERE'S A BIGGER PICTURE HERE. LOOKING AT THE COMPANY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY STARTED IN 1975. BUT TO ALLOW YOUR YOUR LICENSE TO GO INACTIVE. AND THAT COULD BE FOR SEVERAL REASONS, WHETHER IT'S CONTINUING EDUCATION, WHATEVER. BUT I THINK THERE'S A BIGGER PICTURE HERE THAT WE NEED TO JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND, AND DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO. SO I JUST WANT TO LET STAFF KNOW THAT. AND I KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL ON THE JOB OR WHATEVER, THEY DON'T HAVE A CONTRACTOR LICENSE AT THIS TIME OR IT'S NOT ACTIVE ANYWAY. WELL, AT LEAST WE GOT IT ALL ON THE TABLE. OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT. SO. DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTED ACTION? A MAYOR GO AHEAD MA'AM. APPROVAL OF TENDER AND RELEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN GREATER AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY TO IMPLEMENT COMPLETION CONTRACT. LAWRENCE LEE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES INC TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM PRESENTED. SECOND, A MOTION SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. B MAYOR.

APPROVAL ASSIGNMENT. ASSUMPTION. AMENDMENT OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR. LAWRENCE LEE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, INC TO COMPLETE THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK AND TO AUTHORIZE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM PRESENTED. AND I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. MC MAYOR. GOOD APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 4434. APPROPRIATING PERFORMANCE SLASH PAYMENT BOND PROCEEDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,067,612.52. AND I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER 11, LIEUTENANT. GOOD

[11. Interlocal Agreement with Brevard County for the North Wickham Road and Lake Washington Intersection Improvements, Project No. 64325.]

IT IDENTIFIED SEVERAL OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, BICYCLE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE NORTH WICKHAM ROAD BETWEEN O'GALLEY AND LAKE WASHINGTON.

AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS, THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH WICKHAM ROAD AND LAKE WASHINGTON ROAD WAS IDENTIFIED FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. TO SUPPORT THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AT THE INTERSECTION, THE CITY AGREED TO CONTRIBUTE $100,000 TOWARD THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT THROUGH THE USE OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES ZONE ONE COUNTY COLLECTED BY THE CITY CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT NUMBER 64325 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2425 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. BREVARD COUNTY HAS SINCE COMPLETED THE DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THEY ARE ANTICIPATING BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION THIS FALL. THE PROJECT INCLUDES ROADWAY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT, ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION, INCLUDING MILLING AND RESURFACING, SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION, PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS AND CURB RAMPS, AND PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL UPGRADES, ADA COMPLIANT BUS STOP IMPROVEMENTS, AND ENHANCED ROADWAY LIGHTING. ONCE THE COUNTY BEGINS CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THEIR IN-HOUSE CREWS WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 90 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE WORK. FUNDING IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IN THE PROJECT BUDGET 64325, AND WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN BREVARD COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE FOR THE NORTH WICKHAM ROAD AND LAKE WASHINGTON.

IMPROVEMENTS AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM AS PRESENTED. THIS IS BASICALLY JUST THE FORMAL AGREEMENT TO BRING EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR A PROJECT THAT THE CITY PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO PARTICIPATE IN WITH THE COUNTY INTERSECTION. SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AT AN INTERSECTION THAT WE HAVE ONE OF THE FOUR LEGS FOR THE ROADWAY. SO THIS IS ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY FOR

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YEAH. AND IF I MAY, WE CAN ASK THEM TO PROVIDE US UPDATES LIKE WHEN THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY START, THEN WE CAN NOTIFY COUNCIL. AND THEN ALSO SO THAT WE CAN PUT THAT ON OUR WEBSITE ALSO AS WHEN WE THINK THERE MAY BE LANE CLOSURES, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL ASK THEM TO PROVIDE US. I EXPECT SOME PHONE CALLS AND THEY WILL BE WHEN WHEN WE DO SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SELF-PERFORMING, GENERALLY THE SELF-PERFORMING OF THE WORK IS GOING TO BE DRAINAGE. SOME OF THE CONCRETE WORK, THE ASPHALT PAVING.

BREVARD COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY IN-HOUSE. SO THEY GO OUT TO A SUBCONTRACTOR MUCH LIKE THE CITY DOES FOR THAT, THAT TYPE OF WORK. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. DO WE HAVE A DIRECTION ON THIS? MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN BREVARD COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE FOR THE NORTH WICKHAM ROAD AND LAKE WASHINGTON. INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM AS PRESENTED. SECOND.

OH, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. NEWMAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION

[12. CONSENT AGENDA:]

[13. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA]

ME TOO. OKAY. SO WITH TRAFFIC FLOWS IN GENERAL, THEY'RE ALWAYS CHANGING. SO THE WAY IT

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EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND BY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

[14. Collective Bargaining Agreement between the City of Melbourne and the Coastal Florida Police Benevolent Association spanning October 1, 2026 through September 30, 2029.]

SO REPORTING ON THIS IS OUR DOCTOR PRASAD. HOW YOU DOING SIR? VERY WELL THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DOCTOR PRASAD, CHAIR DIRECTOR, CITY OF MELBOURNE IN FRONT OF YOU. ITEM 2026 2333 IS A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THE PBA COMMENCING OCTOBER 1ST 26 AND CONCLUDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2029.

A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND FOR YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. THIS WAS A PRETTY QUICK WORK BY STAFF ON THIS ITEM. PRETTY MUCH EIGHT WEEKS OF EIGHT SESSIONS OF NEGOTIATION TO REALLY COME TO AN AGREEMENT. I THINK THAT'S REMARKABLE. I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING OF TALKING TO THE CHIEF THAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR A LONG TIME IN CITY OF MELBOURNE, SO THAT'S EXCELLENT WORK BY THE

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YOU REMEMBER THAT? AND WE CAME OUT HALF AND HALF SO. AND EIGHT, FIVE SESSIONS OF EIGHT, EIGHT, EIGHT SESSIONS. YEAH. THAT'S REMARKABLE. ABSOLUTELY. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. AND CHIEF CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PVA LEADERSHIP AND THEIR TEAM AS WELL TO FOR DOING SUCH AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN GETTING THIS DONE AND DONE AND OVER BECAUSE WE WERE FEARFUL AS A COUNCIL NOT KNOWING WHAT AMENDMENT THREE WAS GOING TO DO THAT. WE GOT THIS UNDER OUR BELTS AND READY TO GO. SO THANK YOU, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT. WELL DONE. ON YOUR FIRST DAY ON THE JOB. THANK. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR, I REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THE COASTAL FLORIDA POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION FOR THE PERIOD OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2020 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2029, FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION SECONDED BY MR. NEWMAN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSED. AND

[15. Resolution No. 4433: (Public Hearing) A resolution to grant a rescission of a Local Historic Designation for a property located at 1248 Highland Avenue. (Applicant - 1248 Highland Ave., LLC) (HARB - 8/19/26)]

THE REQUEST FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION RESCISSION. SO SINCE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN 2010 ADOPTED OUR HISTORIC ORDINANCE, WE'VE USED A CONSULTANT FOR OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER DUTIES. AND THIS EVENING YOU HAVE A RESCISSION REPORT IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT WAS PREPARED BY OUR CONTINUING PLANNING CONSULTANT, INSPIRE PLACEMAKING COLLECTIVE. SO I HAVE WITH US, MEGAN BORROW THAT WITH INSPIRE AND SHE IS GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE RESCISSION REPORT AND, AND GIVE YOU THE PROCESS AND WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH. AND I'M ALSO HERE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MEGAN. I'LL GET YOU THE CLICKER. THERE IT IS.

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SO THOSE PHOTOS ARE NEW. JUST SOME MORE HISTORIC INFORMATION. THE PLAT WAS CREATED IN 1892 AND LIKE I SAID, HOUSE WAS BUILT ABOUT 1915. AND YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING ON THE LEFT. AND OUR CURRENT O'GALLEY HISTORIC DISTRICT MAP IS ON THE RIGHT. SO THIS PROPERTY WAS DESIGNATED AS PART OF THE EAU GALLIE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN 2013. AND WHEN THAT DISTRICT WAS CREATED.

SO JUST TO LOOK AT THE RESCISSION PROCESS, THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH.

PRELIMINARY REVIEW. THERE WAS A REPORT, A HEARING AT HARB. AND THEN NOW WE ARE AT THE COUNCIL HEARING. SO THE EFFECT OF ANY RESCISSION ESSENTIALLY, IS THAT EXTERIOR CHANGES TO THE SITE AND THE STRUCTURE THAT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT WOULD NO LONGER NEED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM HARB IF THIS WERE TO TO BE RESCINDED, THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ACTUAL DISTRICT WOULD NOT BE AMENDED. IT WOULD JUST CHANGE THE PROPERTY TO A NONCONTRIBUTING RESOURCE. IF YOU CHOSE TO APPROVE, THEN I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION AS WE GO. SO THEN THE DISTRICT ITSELF WOULD NOT CEASE TO EXIST. CORRECT? OKAY. THANK YOU. THESE ARE JUST SOME SNIPPETS. THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A JUSTIFICATION LETTER WITH THEIR APPLICATION TO HARB. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS THAT THEY LISTED. THEY SAID THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE MAINTAINED IN ITS CURRENT FORM. THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION IMPOSES PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS, DELAYS AND LIMITATIONS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THEIR LIFESTYLE. AND THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP WITHOUT THE NEED FOR FORMAL DESIGNATION OR REGULATORY REVIEW. SO OUR REVIEW OF THAT APPLICATION FOLLOWS THE PROCEDURES THAT ARE SET OUT IN CODE FOR A RESCISSION. SO IT'S IN SECTION 2266 I. AND ESSENTIALLY A RESCISSION IS SUBJECT TO THE SAME PROCEDURES THAT THE DESIGNATION WAS. SO YOU CAN RESCIND A DESIGNATION AS CITY COUNCIL ACCORDING TO CODE. IF YOU FIND THAT THE PROPERTY FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE DESIGNATION CRITERIA. IF THE DESIGNATION DIDN'T FOLLOW THE CORRECT PROCESS, OR IF AT THE TIME OF DESIGNATION, THE OWNERS DIDN'T CONSENT. SO I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY OF EACH OF THOSE. THOSE CODE PROVISIONS. SO JUST LOOKING AT DOES THE PROPERTY NO LONGER COMPLY WITH DESIGNATION CRITERIA. EXCUSE ME. SORRY. SO WHEN A PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC RESOURCE RESOURCE, YOU HAVE TO FIND THAT IT'S SIGNIFICANT IN THE CITY'S HISTORY THE ARCHITECTURE, THE ARCHEOLOGY. AND IT HAS TO HAVE INTEGRITY AND IT HAS TO MEET ONE OR MORE OF THE THE SIX CRITERIA. SO THE ONE I HAVE BOLDED HERE IS WHAT WE FOUND. THE PROPERTY COMPLIES WITH. MORE SPECIFICALLY HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. WE FOUND THAT THE PROPERTY STILL MAINTAINS ITS HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. IT WAS BUILT DURING THE O'GALLEY LAND BOOM. THE OWNER WAS A PROPERTY DEVELOPER, BUILT ROADS AND HOMES HERE. AND THE HOME DOES EXEMPLIFY WHAT WE CALL THE FRAME VERNACULAR STYLE. YOU'LL FIND A BUNCH OF THOSE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO THAT REFLECTS SORT OF NATIONAL AND LOCAL TRENDS IN CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE IS STILL MAINTAINED IN THE HOME.

AND DOES IT HAVE INTEGRITY AND DOES IT HAVE DISTINCTIVE DESIGN AND CRAFTSMANSHIP? WE FOUND THAT IT DID. THE HOME IS STILL IN THE SAME LOCATION. IT WASN'T MOVED. SO IT HAS INTEGRITY OF LOCATION, THE OVERALL FORM, SOME OF THE BRICK PIERS, THE INFILL, THE PORCH, ALL OF THOSE, THOSE FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS MAINTAIN THEIR INTEGRITY. SO THERE HAVE BEEN MINOR ALTERATIONS TO THE PROPERTY OVER THE YEARS. YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE PICTURES. A PORCH

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SO MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST FOR THE TWO DISCLOSURES. DID DID THOSE CONVERSATIONS IMPACT YOUR ABILITY TO CONSIDER THIS EVIDENCE THIS EVENING AND MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT'S PRESENTED THIS EVENING? AS ALWAYS, IT NEVER DOES. I JUST IT'S A IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S BEST TO PUT ON THE RECORD AS PART OF THE DISCLOSURE INFORMATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CONNELLY. CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL START OUT WITH KIM ROSENKER. HOW ARE YOU DOING? GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER WITH LACEY ROSENKER IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. I MAY NEED A LITTLE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES, BUT I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY. I DID SEND EACH OF YOU AN EMAIL WITH SOME INFORMATION ON THE 31ST OF AUGUST AS WELL. I GOT CAUGHT IN SPAM WITH THE ATTACHMENT TO IT.

WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DO THE. THERE'S REQUEST FOR RESCISSION OF 1248 HIGHLAND AVENUE LLC.

WITH ME IS GERARD GRUBER, THE REPRESENTATIVE. THIS IS HIS FULL TIME RESIDENCE NOW. HE AND HIS FIANCE PURCHASED IT IN MARCH AND THEY HAVE MOVED THEIR FULL TIME. SO WE. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NEW. I DON'T THINK THIS PROCESS HAS GONE THROUGH. YOUR CODE IS NOT CLEAR AS TO HOW TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND WHILE I DO RESPECT YOUR CONSULTANT, WE DISAGREE WITH THE LEGAL INTERPRETATION AND THAT THIS REALLY EVER HAD ANY TRUE HISTORICAL VALUE, IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO CREATE A DISTRICT. THERE'S A LETTER IN YOUR PACKET FROM MR. MITCHELL WHO OWNED IT PREVIOUSLY. IT'S IN THE PACKET I PRESENTED, WHICH WAS EMAILED TO YOU, AND ALSO IN THE AGENDA PACKET TODAY. WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION WEBSITE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE HISTORIC RESOURCES IN MELBOURNE, AND THERE ARE PLENTY. THERE'S A LIST OF THEM. THERE'S ALSO A TABLE OF HISTORIC RESOURCES. I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THIS DOES NOT HAVE HISTORIC RESOURCES, HISTORIC ATTRIBUTES, AND IF IT DOES, YOU HAVE 490 HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT ARE LISTED ON YOUR WEBSITE. THIS IS NUMBER 192. SO I WILL PRESENT THIS TO YOU. BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF HISTORIC RESOURCES, AND IT'S OUR OPINION THAT THE CONSENT WAS VALID AT THE TIME.

I'M NOT SURE HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS CONSENTING TO. MR. AND MRS. MITCHELL, BUT MY CLIENT DOES NOT CONSENT NOW. AND WE READ THE ORDINANCE TO SAY THAT WHATEVER HAPPENED AT THE BEGINNING MUST STILL BE TRUE NOW, AND THE CONSENT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. ALSO, YOUR CODE ANTICIPATES A RESCISSION. IT'S IN YOUR CODE AND IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CONSENT THAT WAS PROVIDED, THE CONSENT THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET THAT I'VE PROVIDED TO YOU AS WELL. STATES THAT. THAT THE UNDERSTANDING CONSENT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS MAY BE RELEASED IN WRITING BY THE CITY COUNCIL. YOUR CODE ALSO STATES THAT AS WELL. AND IT IS A SECTION 22266 I THE AMENDMENT, THE RESCISSION CITY COUNCIL MAY AMEND OR RESCIND PROVIDED THE PROPERTY FAILS TO COMPLY WITH

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AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS A LARGE LOT. THERE IS A PICTURE IN THE PACKET THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU OF WHAT MR. GRUBER WISHES TO DO. HE WANTS TO DO A CROCHET, ADD A THREE CAR GARAGE, DO PINK ACCENTS. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BY YOUR DESIGN GUIDELINES. YOUR 79 PAGE DESIGN GUIDELINES. THE DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE VERY PARTICULAR.

IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT NOT PUTTING IN PAVERS, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL YOUR CONCRETE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT USED TO BE IN THE 20S. THIS HAS BEEN COMPLETELY REDONE WITH PAVERS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING. WE DON'T THINK THIS HAS A HISTORICAL VALUE. IT DOESN'T LOOK THE SAME. WE'VE PROVIDED PICTURES FROM THE BEGINNING AND TO WHAT IS NOW. THERE WAS NO PORCH ON THIS WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY LOOKED TO BE DESIGNATED. MR. MITCHELL CAME IN AND DID ADD TO IT ALSO TWO FROM PICTURES IN THE PACKET. YOU MAY NOTICE THAT THERE ARE THESE VERY UGLY UTILITY POLES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN. THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE AT LEAST 50FT HIGH. THEY ARE NOT HISTORICAL WHATSOEVER. AND ALSO TO LOOKING AT THE DESIGN, WHICH I'VE KIND OF CALLED A HIGH HEELED BOOT WITH A DANGLY ON THE END, MY CLIENT'S AT THE VERY END OF THE DANGLY. THERE'S NOT A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE NEXT TO HIM. THERE'S MULTIFAMILY NEXT TO HIM. THERE'S NOTHING AROUND HIM THAT'S HISTORICAL. SO HE'S AT THE VERY END. THERE'S NOTHING ADDING TO HIS HISTORICAL VALUE WHERE IT IS. SO HE NO LONGER WISHES TO HAVE THIS HOUSE OR DOES NOT WISH TO HAVE THIS HOUSE IN THE HISTORIC CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE CATEGORY. THIS IS A FRAME VERNACULAR HOUSE, AGAIN, 490. MOST OF THEM ARE FRAME VERNACULAR. THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT IT. EVEN YOUR DESIGN GUIDELINE INDICATES, WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY A STYLE, BUT IT'S KIND OF A THING. AND SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S OVERLY SPECIAL. THIS HOUSE IS NOT ON ANY HISTORICAL REGISTER.

IT'S NOT ON A COUNTY REGISTER. I PROVIDED YOU THE WHOLE COUNTY LIST. IT'S NOT IN A CITY DESIGNATION. IT'S NOT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER. AND IN FACT, THE DESIGNATION REPORT BACK IN 2013 SAYS THIS WOULDN'T QUALIFY TO BE DESIGNATED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER. THE DISTRICT IS ODDLY DRAWN. IF YOU READ MR. MITCHELL'S LETTER, HE SAID, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS GERRYMANDERED. IT IS. IT'S A VERY ODD LOOKING DISTRICT, AND I KNOW THE INTENT. THE INTENT WAS TO GET ENOUGH UNITS SO YOU COULD HAVE THIS HISTORIC DISTRICT. THIS WILL NOT TAKE AWAY YOUR HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE'LL JUST TAKE A ONE WAY, ONE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE. ALLOW MR. GRUBER TO COME IN, GET HIS PERMITS, NOT HAVE TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WANTING PINK. YOUR DESIGN GUIDELINES SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE PINK, WHICH I THINK IS INTERESTING BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S AN OLD HISTORIC COLOR. THERE ARE NON-HISTORIC ELEMENTS OF THIS PROPERTY. THERE'S THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH USED TO BE CONCRETE. NOW PAVERS, THE PORCH STEPS HAVE CHANGED, THE ROOF HAS CHANGED. SO THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYONE EVER EXPECTED WHEN THE ORDINANCE PASSED IN 2013, OR THE CONSENT WAS SIGNED IN 2011, THAT MEANT YOU WERE ALWAYS AND FOREVER IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. WHEN YOUR CODE ANTICIPATES IN THE CONSENT ANTICIPATED, IT COULD BE RESCINDED, AND IT COULD BE THAT RESCISSION COULD BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S AN OLD EITHER 1915, 1918, 1928 HOUSE. IT'S DRAFTY. MR. GRUBER WANTS TO ORDER EFFICIENT WINDOWS. DOESN'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE TO ORDER THE CUSTOM HISTORICAL STYLE HISTORIC WINDOWS. FROM WHAT HE'S TOLD ME, IT WOULD BE 2 TO 3 TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE TO ORDER THOSE CUSTOM WINDOWS. HE WANTS TO UPGRADE. HE WANTS TO ADD A THREE CAR GARAGE. HE WANTS TO IMPROVE THE LOOK AND THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, AND HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT UNDER THE GUIDELINES THAT EXIST NOW.

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AND IT IS HIS PERSONAL HOME. IT IS NOT AN AIRBNB TO REPEAT THAT. AND SO TO EXCLUDE OTHERS FROM THE PROPERTY, PROTECT THE OWNER'S PROPERTY AND POSSESSION. AND HE DOES. HE WANTS TO ADD A SECURITY SYSTEM. HE WANTS TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY. SO THERE'S NO PUBLIC PURPOSE IN KEEPING THIS AS A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE. AND THESE REGULATIONS IMPOSE ECONOMIC BURDEN ON THE LANDOWNER. WITH THAT, I WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PACKAGE WITH THE HISTORIC BOARD. IT WAS THEIR OPINION THAT THEY HAD TO GO WITH WHAT THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED, BECAUSE THEY KNEW NOTHING ELSE TO DO. AND YOU HAVE A GREAT CONSULTANT. AND SO BUT THIS ISN'T WITH YOUR DISCRETION TO DO. AND I WOULD SAY THAT SINCE THE ORDINANCE IS SOMEWHAT AMBIGUOUS, IT DOES ANTICIPATE WITHDRAWAL FROM A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE THAT WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALLOW HIM TO RESCIND FROM THE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE. AND I WILL SUBMIT THIS 490 HISTORICAL DESIGNATED STRUCTURES IN THE CITY. SO THANK YOU. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, JUST THE WHOLE CITY. THE WHOLE CITY. YEAH. SO, MAYOR, IF I CAN. YEAH, JUST JUST A FEW POINTS I WANT TO POINT OUT AND OF MR. ZENKER'S PRESENTATION FIRST, THE THE DOCUMENT I THINK SHE'S PASSING AROUND NOW IS THE WHAT I THINK WE CALL THE MASTER SITE FILE LISTINGS FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. THOSE ARE PROPERTIES WHERE THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS HAS IDENTIFIED AS BEING ELIGIBLE FOR BEING PART OF THE MASTER SITE FILE SURVEY PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THEIR AGE GENERALLY. AND SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A HISTORIC DESIGNATION AT ANY LEVEL. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT 491 NUMBER COMES IN TO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE THE CITY'S LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTIES ARE EITHER WITHIN THE O'GALLEY HISTORIC DISTRICT OR THERE'S ANOTHER TEN, EIGHT, 8 TO 10 OTHER AT OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY, DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE AND OTHER HISTORIC AREAS. SO SO AGAIN, THE THE, THE MASTER SITE FILE IS A, A DIFFERENT CATEGORY AND A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION THAN A HISTORIC DESIGNATION. AS TO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, I WILL RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH, I THINK THE UNDERLYING INTENT AT THE TIME BETWEEN 2011 AND 2013, WHEN THE O'GALLEY HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS BEING CREATED, I. I DON'T THINK THE INTENT WAS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO ALWAYS AND FOREVER HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST WITHDRAW CONSENT. I THINK AT THE TIME THERE WAS AN INTENT TO, YOU KNOW, GET CONSENT OF THE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THAT TIME TO SAY, YES, I WANT THIS PROPERTY PROTECTED AND, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT ITS HISTORIC ESTHETIC ON ITS EXTERIOR IS, IS PRESERVED. RIGHT. AND BECAUSE THAT DOCUMENT IS RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, ANY SUBSEQUENT OWNER WOULD HAVE KNOWN OF THAT CONDITION. AND THAT AND THAT REQUIREMENT GOING INTO THAT. THAT BEING SAID, YOU'VE HEARD COMPETING INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY CONTINUES TO HAVE HISTORIC VALUE AND WHETHER OR NOT IT STILL MEETS THE CLASSIFICATIONS AND CRITERIA FOR BEING CONSIDERED A HISTORIC PROPERTY. SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A, YOU KNOW, DISCRETION OR DECISION TO MAKE. I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE LIKELY ON THOSE GROUNDS OF, YOU KNOW, IS THE PROPERTY STILL MEETING THOSE HISTORIC CRITERIA OR NOT, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THE THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER SIMPLY WANTS TO WITHDRAW CONSENT? OKAY. WE DO HAVE A SIGN UP SHEET. WELL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR. MR. AND IS IT MR. GRUBER? YES. YEAH, HE'S HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. HE ACTUALLY CHECKED THE BOX ON THE BOTTOM THERE, WHICH I'D NEVER NOTICED BEFORE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GRUBER? WELL, I GOT A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. AND. OKAY, SO THE PROPERTY IS TITLED AT 1248 HIGHLAND AVE LLC. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT IS HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, IT'S HIS RESIDENTIAL HOME. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT IT IN THE LLC, YOU, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE THAT HAS A PERSONAL RESIDENCE, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL NAMES. SO HE'S PUTTING IT IN A BUSINESS NAME. NOW, YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE BOUGHT THIS IN APRIL, CORRECT? MARCH, MARCH. OKAY. SORRY. AND ANY I MEAN, I'M NOT A REALTOR AND ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, BUT BEING AROUND SOME LAW THINGS AND ALL THAT, THE REALTOR HAS TO DIVULGE THAT

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THERE'S, THERE'S, HE KNEW WHEN HE WAS GOING INTO THIS, RIGHT, THAT THIS WAS A DESIGNATION.

AND NOW HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT IS IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S VERY, VERY NICE. AND IT'S AND IT'S NICE AREA RIGHT THERE. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN HE DIDN'T DO HIS HOMEWORK OF WHAT IT WAS GOING TO COST TO UPKEEP. THE UPDATE OF THIS, KEEP IT IN THE HISTORICAL. DESIGNATION. WELL, EVEN THE HISTORICAL LOOK, BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THERE, YOU CAN CHANGE THE WAY IT'S THE WHOLE THING'S. SO NOW HE GOT THAT IN THE WHEN HE GOT WHEN HE BOUGHT THE HOUSE, HE KNEW THIS WASN'T A HISTORICAL HOUSE AND THAT THERE WAS DIFFERENT RULES. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT HIS REALTOR TOLD HIM THAT THAT WAS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. I'M JUST ASSUMING THAT BECAUSE IF NOT, HE'S HERE. YOU CAN YOU CAN ASK HIM ALL THESE QUESTIONS, BRING HIM UP.

BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION THAT, WELL, LET ME FINISH. LET ME FINISH. BUT THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS A AS YOU HAVE TO DISCLOSE, MISS HANLEY, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING HIM UP BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION THAT HE SHOULD NOT ANSWER. YEAH, YEAH. CAN WE BRING HIM UP? GOOD EVENING. HEY, HOW YOU DOING, SIR? GOOD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JERRY GRUBER. I'M THE OWNER OF 1248 HIGHLAND. OKAY, I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. YOU GUYS HAD A QUESTION? OKAY. WILL YOU? WHEN YOUR REALTOR, WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING AT THIS HOUSE, DID THEY DISCLOSE IT THAT IT WAS A HISTORICAL HOUSE AND THAT YOU HAD TO KEEP IT IN BECAUSE IT WAS A HISTORICAL HOUSE? AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE EAU GALLIE SECTION THAT BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING OF SOUTH CAROLINA, CHARLESTON AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT IN THAT TO KEEP THE LOOK, TO KEEP THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND LIKE WE IN THE DISTRICT TWO DOWN IN THE EAU GALLIE SECTION, WE'VE DONE THINGS, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE EGAD BOARD FOR THE BUSINESSES.

I'M LOOKING AT IT FOR KEEPING THAT WHOLE LOOK. IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE BUSINESSES, IT'S THE WHOLE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO THE WALKABLE. NOW, DID YOU KNOW WHEN YOU BOUGHT THAT HOUSE THAT IT WAS IN THE HISTORICAL? SO, YES. SO IT CAME UP IN THE TITLE SEARCH THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER SIGNED THE DOCUMENT, I GUESS WAS 2013 ISH. AND SO THEY, THEY HAD A, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD A PARTY FOR US. THE FIRST, OUR FIRST DAY SUMMER IN SUMMER CONTRIBUTING. SOME ARE NONCONTRIBUTING. AND SOMEHOW IT CAME UP AND I WAS JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO AND SUCH. AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY WAS JUST, THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST OR LIKE JUST GO DOWN AND GET OUT OF IT. I MEAN, THEY LITERALLY MADE IT SOUND THAT FLIGHTY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, FLAKY. SO WE JUST KIND OF PURSUED IT, YOU KNOW, AS SUCH. OKAY. MY OTHER THING IS THOUGH, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S YOUR PERSONAL RESIDENCE, BUT YOU PUT IT IN A LLC, WHICH TO ME, IF YOU'RE PUTTING A BUSINESS BEING SOMEBODY THAT HAS A BUSINESS PIECE OF PROPERTY, I'M I TITLE IT DIFFERENTLY THAN I TITLED MY RESIDENTIAL. SO YOU HAVE IT AS AN LLC, WHICH MEANS THAT'S A BUSINESS RATHER. WHY WOULD YOU TITLE IT AS AN LLC AS A BUSINESS AND BECAUSE YOU CANNOT HOMESTEAD IT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S YOUR HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. YOU YOU WANT A HOMESTEAD. IT IT'S YOUR PERSONAL RESIDENCE, WHICH HERE IN FLORIDA, ESPECIALLY WITH AMENDMENT THREE COMING, YOU WOULD WANT IT HOMESTEADED. WHY? I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE I'M QUESTIONING. ARE YOU YOU'RE SAYING, OH, I'M LIVING THERE.

YEAH, YOU CAN LIVE THERE AND YOU'D BE WORKING ON IT, BUT I'M NOT SEEING AS PERSONAL PUTTING IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A TRUST, THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME. BUT YOU PUT IT AS AN LLC. AND THAT TO ME MEANS IT'S A BUSINESS, NOT A PERSONAL RESIDENCE. YEAH. I MEAN, I OWN QUITE A BIT OF REAL ESTATE WITH SELLING, BUYING AND SELLING A BUNCH OF REAL ESTATE AT THE TIME. AND IT WAS JUST THE FINANCIAL DECISIONS. NOTHING. YEAH. THIS IS OUR HOME. YEAH.

WELL, AND THAT THAT THAT WILL SWITCH. WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO INDOOR PERSONAL FOR THE HOMESTEAD. I THINK WHAT MISS HANLEY'S TRYING TO SAY IS, IS BEING AN LLC, YOU'RE LOSING VALUABLE BENEFITS IF IT'S YOUR PRIMARY HOME. YEAH WE ARE, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING YOU KNOW. YEAH. THE TAX LIABILITY. YEAH. SO YOU OKAY, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU BOUGHT AND SELL PROPERTY. BUT THEN YOU SAID I DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE. WHICH ONE IS

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WHAT WHAT WAS GOING THAT YOU'RE ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU BUY AND SELL PROPERTY? THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS. YOU'VE DONE THAT DEVELOPER. OKAY, SO, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO BUYING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU'RE NOT A NOVICE. SOMEBODY COMING IN, YOU KNOW, FIRST TIME, SECOND TIME BUYER.

YOU KNEW WHAT THIS DESIGNATION WAS TO A DEGREE. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT CONVENIENT. SO NOW WE WANT IT RESCINDED. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WELL, IT'S NOT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.

WE'VE HAD A GENTLEMAN A COUPLE YEARS BACK THAT LIVED ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND HE NEEDED OUR WATER. AND HE THOUGHT, OH, IT WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. AND THEN WHEN IT WHEN THE NEIGHBOR HOOKED UP TO OUR WATER SYSTEM, OH MY GOD, I DIDN'T KNOW. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO DO THIS. THIS IS KIND OF WHERE I'M AT WITH THIS. YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING.

AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE A DEVELOPER AND AND YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. WELL, OKAY, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS REAL QUICK. JUST WHAT? WHY DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OUT? SO BECAUSE OF OUR FAMILY SITUATION. LIVING SITUATION. WHAT WORKS SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE. AND ADDITIONS WISE, WE CAN BUILD. FROM A CODE PERSPECTIVE. WE WOULD BE WITHIN CODE, BUT WITH THE HISTORICAL RESTRICTIONS WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE CLOSE. OKAY? BECAUSE EVEN SPEAKING WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE TO THEM, WE SAID, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE TO DO. WE'RE, WE'RE BY CODE, JUST STRAIGHT UP CODE AS OPPOSED TO A HISTORICAL. AND THEY WERE JUST, THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THAT HISTORICAL.

OKAY. AND, AND WITHIN THE HISTORICAL REGULATIONS. AND SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OFF BECAUSE YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO BUILD ONTO THE PROPERTY.

CORRECT. AND VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S EXISTING, JUST SORT OF A BIGGER VERSION OF IT. OKAY, GOOD, SIR. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I REQUESTED THAT YOU BE HERE, BY THE WAY. OH, GOOD. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. FRANCO WAS YOUR CONSULTING ATTORNEY AT THE CLOSING TABLE OR NOT, BUT. NO, NO. APPARENTLY NOT. SO HERE'S THE THING THAT STICKS IN MY CRAW. OKAY. I'M GOING TO JUST PUT IT PLAINLY FROM MYSELF, IS THAT YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS A HISTORICAL HOME AND THAT YOU HAD FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES. NOW YOU'VE GONE IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC BOARD, AND THEY DENIED UNANIMOUSLY.

OUR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL UNANIMOUSLY. PRETTY MUCH. WELL, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL.

AND WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT'S RECOMMENDING DENIAL AS WELL, TOO. BUT I CAN'T NOT LOOK AT THE THE ORDINANCE THAT NUMBER FOUR IS HAS VOLUNTARILY THE OWNER OF RECORD OF EACH PROPERTY WITHIN O'GALLEY HISTORIC HISTORIC DISTRICT. WAS IT CLASSIFIED WITH CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE ON SITE OR NOT? HAS VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF O'GALLEY HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO I THINK THE THING THAT KIND OF GETS IN OUR OUR WAY IS THAT YOU SIGN THE PAPERS SAYING YOU AGREE, YOU FILE, YOU SEE ALL OF THESE, ALL OF THE INFORMATION YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW WITH THIS CITY. YOU'RE NEW TO THE CITY. IS THAT RIGHT? YEP. OKAY. SO YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THIS THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE WITH THE GREAT CITY OF MELBOURNE, GREAT CITY OF MELBOURNE. YEAH. AND SO, BUT SO WE'RE KIND OF HAVING TO STEP BACK AND SAY, WELL, GEE, YOU KNOW, DID THIS GUY REALLY BUY THE HOUSE KNOWINGLY THAT HE WAS GOING TO ASK FOR RESCISSION OR DID HE BUY IT AND SAY, OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I CAN'T PUT A THREE CAR GARAGE. SO I THINK THAT'S MORE OF THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE ASKING NOW. I BELIEVE IN THE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. I MEAN, I'M AN ADVOCATE, AND I BELIEVE IN THE CODE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR IN OUR SYSTEM AS WELL, TOO. BUT I JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU, YOU KNOW, ONE ON ONE GUY TO GUY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S UP. I MEAN, YOU KNEW GOING IN. SO WHAT'S GOING ON FOUR MONTHS LATER? YEAH, FRANKLY, WE DIDN'T TO THAT DEGREE, LIKE I SAID. AND EVEN WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHO WAS WHO DID OPT IN AT THE TIME. AND HE BETTER EXPLAINS IT REALLY IN HIS LETTER OF WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE WHAT HE WAS SIGNING UP FOR AT THE TIME AND THE BENEFITS THAT HE WAS GOING TO GET FROM IT, WHICH BASICALLY WAS NOTHING. AND THAT'S AT THIS PARTY I MENTIONED. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT EVERYBODY SAID. THEY'VE NEVER GOTTEN A BENEFIT OF IT, NEVER REALLY SEEN ANYBODY. WELL,

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I'M SORRY. SUSAN KAISER WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNER. THE LETTER OR THE EMAIL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OR IS THAT MARY. NO. STEVE MITCHELL, STEVE MITCHELL WAS THE PREVIOUS STEVE MITCHELL.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO BUT I'VE GOT A LETTER HERE. IS THIS THE PERSON THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR TO YOU? YES. APPARENTLY SHE SHE WENT TO BAT FOR YOU. YEAH. UNSOLICITED. WE HAD A THERE'S A FEW. I THINK THERE'S THREE. YEAH. WELL WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE. OKAY. THERE ARE I BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE, INCLUDING STEVE, THE PREVIOUS OWNER. YEAH. SO IT'S IT'S OH THERE'S ONE ON THE BACK.

THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. SO I'M GOING TO STEP BACK. IT'S MY DISTRICT. I WAS WORKING WITH KELLY ON ON SOME OF THE HISTORIC WORKINGS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYTHING.

SHE DID A DYNAMIC JOB IN GATHERING ALL OF THE PETITIONS AND ALL THE SIGNATURES AND CONVINCING PEOPLE OF WHAT SHE BELIEVED IN AND WHAT WE BELIEVED IN AS A CITY AT THAT TIME AS WELL, TOO. SO I'M GOING TO STEP BACK AND NOT TAKE A PERSONAL INTEREST IN THIS AT THIS MOMENT. I'M GOING TO LET THE COUNCIL TALK IT OUT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT IS MY DECISION, AND I'LL TELL YOU, I'M RIGHT ON THE EDGE. I'M ON THE TIPPING POINT. I'M NOT SURE WHICH WAY TO GO, REALLY, I DON'T, BUT I, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT AS VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO INCLUDE WITH THE BOUNDARIES OF THE EAU GALLIE DISTRICT, VOLUNTARILY IS THE KEY WORD HERE. SO IS IT VOLUNTARILY FROM THE ORIGINAL OWNER OR IS IT VOLUNTARY FROM ALL OWNERS? SO THAT'S SO THAT'S WHERE I'M NOT A LEGAL EAGLE. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT ONE STANDING OVER YOUR OVER YOUR RIGHT HAND SHOULDER. BUT SO I QUESTION THAT AS WELL TOO. MAYOR. MAYOR. OKAY. I'M DONE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA. BUT I AM A PERSON AND I BELIEVE IN PROGRESS. I LOVE THE LOOK OF WHAT I'M SEEING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER. I HAVE FRIENDS OVER IN EAU GALLIE ARTS DISTRICT AREA, AND I'VE SEEN THAT YOU GOT SOME OF THE OLDER HOUSES, AND THEN YOU GOT SOME HOUSES THAT HAVE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS. AND IT. AND SO YOU HAVE THIS ECLECTIC NESS THAT I REALLY ENJOY. AND SO I THINK THAT I TAKE YOU AT YOUR WORD THAT YOU, YOU PURCHASED THE HOME AND YOU DIDN'T REALLY FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LIMITATIONS OF THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THE FULL HISTORIC DESIGNATION MEANT ON, ON THE PROPERTY. SO, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY ECONOMIC WORK AND PEOPLE REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND. OH, AND HE ASKED THE QUESTION, DOES THAT TAKE AWAY FROM THE OVERALL HISTORIC DISTRICT? NO, IT DOES NOT. YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE DESIGNATED OVERALL, JUST THIS ONE PROPERTY DOES NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THAT.

SO I BELIEVE IN INVESTING IN PROGRESS. I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO ADD TO I DON'T THINK THAT THE ESTHETICS THAT YOU'RE DOING IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE OVERALL VALUE OR LOOK OF THE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO ADD TO YOUR OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE EARNED THAT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE DOING THINGS AND YOU WANT TO MAKE AND MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. SO I APPLAUD THAT. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD GO FOR THAT. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. HANLEY, OKAY. FOR ADAM, WHEN THEY GO INTO CLOSING, WOULD THIS WOULD BE. PRESENTED AT HIS CLOSING? YEAH. MR. JENKINS SAID THAT IT WAS A PART OF THE TITLE SEARCH. SO THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. YEAH. SO IT'S ON THE DEED AND EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW THAT HE KNEW. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS GETTING INTO. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE WAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF ANY, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER TO TAKE IT OFF TO THE NO, KNOWING THAT IT'S A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY FOR THE EAU GALLIE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BECAUSE THAT'S SHOWN IN THE TITLE SEARCHES AS WELL. AND SO THEN AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOING IN AND LOOKING AT CITY CODE AND THE HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES. AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT OCCURRED AT THE HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MEETING WAS HARB WAS VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT THE PLANNED, YOU KNOW, RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY WERE AND EVEN GOT TO THE POINT OF, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE AN APPLICATION JUST UNDER, UNDER THE HISTORIC GUIDELINES TO SEE IF THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WOULD HAVE FIT AND YOU COULD HAVE KEPT THE PROPERTY IN THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AND STILL DONE SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS. FORTUNATELY, IT KIND OF HAD TO MOVE THEM AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE THE APPLICATION WAS FOR FOR THE RESCISSION AND NOT FOR THOSE THOSE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.

RIGHT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO. MR. AND MR. GRUBER ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS A CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC DISTRICT PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT. IT'S ANOTHER THING THEN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR

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THEY DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT IF IT'S AMBIGUOUS, IT GOES IN FAVOR OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO THEREFORE HE'S HE'S COME HE WANTS TO IMPROVE IT. I MEAN, THE PROPERTY VALUE HAS NOT INCREASED. AND OVER TIME IN THIS AREA. AND THIS IS AT THE VERY END. THERE'S NOTHING CONTRIBUTING AROUND IT. THERE'S NOTHING HISTORIC AROUND IT. SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AGAIN THAT YOU ALLOW HIM TO WITHDRAW FROM THE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE DESIGNATION. AND I ACTUALLY DON'T. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY BE DONE WITH QUESTIONS, BUT THAT MINDS MORE WITH ADAM.

SO AND SO THIS, THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS OVERALL PROCESS OR HOW IT ALL WORKS, IT KIND OF REMINDS ME A LOT OF HOW WE DO OUR STREET NAMING. IS THIS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WHILE SOMEONE MUST BE DECEASED FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS, WHATEVER HAVE HAVE BEEN, YOU COULD ALSO IT'S AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION WHETHER OR NOT TO DO THIS OR NOT DO THIS. THIS IS MORE LIKE GUIDELINE, SO TO SPEAK. NO, I MEAN, THESE ARE THESE ARE THE CODIFIED CRITERIA FOR BOTH DESIGNATION AND RESCISSION OF THE DESIGNATION.

I THINK I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID PREVIOUSLY OF YOU'VE HEARD COMPETING INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY STILL MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR BEING HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED PROPERTY. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT ON THE ON THE CONSENT AS WELL. ALL I WILL SAY IS I, I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS NECESSARILY THE INTENT IN 2013 WHEN WHEN THAT ITERATION OF COUNCIL ADOPTED THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THEN THINK OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT, RIGHT? IT WOULD IT WOULD GIVE ALL OF THE REMAINING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE EAU GALLIE HISTORIC DISTRICT THE ABILITY TO, AT THEIR LEISURE, COME IN AND WITHDRAW THEIR CONSENT AND ASK YOU TO WITHDRAW THE DESIGNATION. RIGHT. IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE THE END OF THAT DISTRICT FUNCTIONALLY. RIGHT. AND SO AGAIN, RIGHT, I THINK WHERE, WHERE COUNCIL IS AND THE, THE DECISION AND THE FINDINGS THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE, IT'S, IT'S THE, YOU'VE, YOU'VE HEARD COMPETING INFORMATION ON BOTH SIDES, AND IT IS AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION ON WHICH DECISION YOU WANT TO MAKE. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

IF I GO BACK AFTER. YEAH OF COURSE. SO HERE'S MY QUESTION. SO OUT OF THE LET'S SAY THE HOMES IN THE AREA, HOW MANY ARE HOW MANY ARE DESIGNATED? HOW MANY ARE NOT? OH, THAT THAT'S A QUESTION FOR. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE. YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK I, I JUST WANT TO VERIFY HOW MANY ARE DESIGNATED AND HOW MANY ARE NOT. SO THEY'RE CALLED CONTRIBUTING OR NONCONTRIBUTING. AND IF WE PULL THE POWERPOINT BACK UP, THERE IS IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE, THERE'S A MAP AND THERE'S A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND A NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. THERE'S 12 CONTRIBUTING AND TEN NONCONTRIBUTING. SO AND THAT, THAT TAKES ME TO MY QUESTION TO THE RIGHT SIDE THERE. IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE HARD TO SEE.

SO WE HAVE A HALF DISTRICT IN THEORY, RIGHT? IF THIS WAS NO LONGER A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY, IT WOULD REMAIN A NONCONTRIBUTING PROPERTY. OKAY, SO HALF THE HOUSES TECHNICALLY ARE CONTRIBUTING, HALF ARE NONCONTRIBUTING. SO THAT KIND OF BRINGS ME TO A DILEMMA THAT, AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE THAT TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT, WHETHER IT'S HURRICANE WINDOWS, WHATEVER, IF IT GOT THAT DESIGNATION, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE, VERY EXPENSIVE. IF YOU CAN GET IT APPROVED. YEAH. WHEREAS THE NEIGHBOR CAN, IF HE'S NONCONTRIBUTING AND I ALMOST FEEL AS READING THE FORM, IT'S VOLUNTARY. YES. HE PURCHASES IT AS IT AS IT WAS AND I BELIEVE HE KNEW. BUT I THINK ONCE YOU GET IN THERE AND YOU SAY, I WANT TO UPGRADE MY PROPERTY, YOU ARE IN A DISTRICT, YOU'RE IN AN ART TO ME NOW. YOU'RE MORE INTO INTO AN ARTS DISTRICT. NOW THAT THAT WASN'T THERE IN 2013, BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL

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AND I'M JUST ASKING, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO KEEPING IT CONTRIBUTING? I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ASSURE THAT THAT PROPERTY REMAINS HISTORIC IN THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER.

YOU KNOW, THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE EARLY 1900S. SO ARE YOU GOING TO ASSURE THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE BENEFIT. IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE DISTRICT BECAUSE OF MAINTAINING THE ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE. AND WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE OTHER HALF DOESN'T. YOU'VE GOT TO, AGAIN, A HALF DISTRICT. WHAT CONCERNS ME, TO ME, IT'S EITHER KIND OF ALL OR NOTHING IN MY OPINION. AND AGAIN, YOU SEE CHANGES IN THERE.

YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, UPGRADES AND PEOPLE CHANGING COLORS AND WITH THE TIME. AND THEN YOU GOT TO ME, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE ALMOST LIKE A SPOT ZONING. WE'RE ALMOST FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE. YEAH, GO AHEAD AND THEN I'M SORRY. I'LL LET YOU HOLD ON. LET ME.

THANK YOU. I WASN'T DONE, BUT I, BUT I YIELDED THE FLOOR TO THE MAYOR. BUT BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS SO ON THAT AND I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH A LOT OF THOSE POINTS THERE, I REALLY DO.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT BECAUSE I GUESS THE POINT THAT I'M THAT I'M MAKING, ADAM, IS IF IF IT IS OR IS NOT OUR DISCRETION ON THESE PARTICULAR RULES, BECAUSE ARE YOU SAYING THAT BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO GET BACK TO THAT HISTORIC SIGN THING? IS THAT A GUIDELINES AS OPPOSED TO CODE, OR IS THIS THE SAME THING WHERE BECAUSE WE'VE WAIVED THAT FROM TIME TO TIME, AND IF THE COUNCIL FINDS A PARTICULAR INTEREST AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS SEEMS NOT YOU COULD SEE THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE, BUT THIS MAY HURT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUTH END OF SHADY LANE AND THE NORTH END OF YOUNG STREET, LIKE THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR. SO IF THE. IF THE COUNCIL SEES A COMPELLING EFFORT TO AMEND THIS FOR THAT SAKE OR TO OVERALL AMEND THE WHOLE DISTRICT, BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES NOT CONFORMING, LIKE, ARE WE NOT AT LIBERTY TO DO THAT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO TIE OURSELVES IN KNOTS AND SAY, WELL, IT'S THIS, BUT IT WASN'T AT THAT TIME OR WHATEVER THE DEAL IS. I WILL SAY AS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM, THE THE PURPOSE OF THIS HEARING AND THESE PROCEEDINGS IS APPLY THE RULES THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED ALREADY AND NOT NECESSARILY MODIFY THOSE RULES ON AN AD HOC ON AN AD HOC BASIS. AND BUT AT AT THAT SAME TIME, I, I AM TRYING AS BEST I CAN TO SIGNAL TO ALL OF YOU THAT YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH.

YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH IN THIS RECORD NOW TO SUPPORT EITHER DECISION THAT YOU MAKE TONIGHT.

RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. CAN I HOLD ON? ARE YOU DONE? MR. LARUSSO? ALL RIGHT. IN THE CODE.

ALSO, I'M READING FURTHER DOWN. THERE'S A SECTION THAT SAYS CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES AND NONCONTRIBUTING RESOURCES. SO I GUESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE OR THE NON, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT ISN'T CONTRIBUTING WITHIN THE HISTORIC HISTORIC DISTRICT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVER OF ZONING CODE PURSUANT TO ARTICLE NINE, SECTION EIGHT OF THE ZONING CODE. NOW, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? DOES THAT MEAN THAT MR. GRUBER COULD COME HERE AND WE CAN GIVE HIM AN ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVER TO ADD THE THREE CAR GARAGE TO PAINT THE WITHOUT TO PAINT THE HOUSE WITHOUT TAKING IT OUT OF THE HISTORIC NATURE? NO, I BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE. WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT, THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVERS ARE PARTICULARLY LIMITED WITHIN CODE. SO IT'S. OKAY. FENCE LOCATIONS AND HEIGHT SETBACKS OF 10% OR LESS. IT'S A VERY. I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO GO. GO. NO. AND SO REALLY, REALLY, I THINK THAT LANGUAGE IS INTENDED TO SAY BECAUSE BECAUSE ALL OTHER PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T DESIGNATED ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVER PROGRAM.

AND I THINK SO IT WAS IT WAS ADDED THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WEREN'T ADDITIONAL HURDLES FOR DESIGNATED PROPERTIES TO NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVERS WITHIN. I DIDN'T WANT TO SKIP OVER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GENTLEMAN TO HAVE IN HIS FIANCE TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD HAVE BOTH HISTORIC. THEY COULD HAVE YOUR YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO. BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, BUT APPARENTLY THE ATTORNEY SAYS NO. YEAH, IT'S IT'S MORE OF THE SCOPE, RIGHT? AS MISS DITTMAR SAID. RIGHT. THE ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVER SYSTEM WITHIN THAT PROVISION OF CODE IS SPECIFIC TO SMALL, SMALL SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND SO ON. NOT NOT WAIVERS FROM SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF, OF CODE OR THE, THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE? NO. NO MORE. NO MORE THAN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. HOLD ON, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. MISS BASSETT. I KNOW THAT THE ROSTER. I DON'T KNOW THE ADDRESS. WHERE'S THE ROSTERS? ROSTERS? HOUSE IS ON

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HECTOR? IT'S A BIG ONE. JUST TRYING TO. OKAY, SO I'M. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE. OH THANK YOU KEVIN. THANK YOU. KEVIN. GOOD JOB. KEVIN. I LEARNED MORE ABOUT HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAN I EVER THOUGHT. AND THEY'RE ON. THERE IT IS. YEAH. OH MY GOSH. SO THEY'RE ON THE SAME ROAD AS THE ROSTERS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE ROSTERS ARE. KERRY ROSSITER WAS THE FIRST WOMAN ON STANDARD OIL. SHE WAS HERE IN IN THE EAU GALLIE EAU GALLIE SECTION. THEY WERE ONE OF THE PIONEERS OF THE EAU GALLIE, THE MELBOURNE AREA. THEIR HOUSE IS A HISTORIC LANDMARK. WHO HAS THE ANTIQUES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO THAT IS PROBABLY, I THINK SHE DIED AROUND THAT TIME PERIOD. DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT ONE. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS WAS PUT AS THE HISTORIC AREA.

IF YOU GO THERE AT CHRISTMAS TIME, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU CAN HAVE PARTIES, YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT. SO IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, BASICALLY RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM FROM YOU. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK. THAT'S WHY I THINK ORIGINALLY, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS TO KEEP THE ROSSITER FAMILY'S HOMESTEAD IN THAT OLD AREA, IN THAT OLD AREA. OLDER, I SHOULDN'T SAY OLD AREA, BUT IN THE OLD EAU GALLIE SECTION. WHY? IT WAS DONE THAT WAY ORIGINALLY. SO WE HAVE CARRIED ROSTERS WHICH IS USED AS. IT'S A MUSEUM FOR. I FIND IT VERY HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND. I'M SORRY. YOU KNOW, YOU YOU TELL ME YOU WERE LAYING. YOU KNOW, YOU BUY AND SELL PROPERTY. WELL, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT ONE. OKAY, SO, MISS BASSETT, AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. OKAY. I'M A REALTOR, SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT, LIKE, WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP IN TITLE, IT IS THE REALTORS JOB TO EXPLAIN IT ALL. LIKE SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS DONE A DISSERVICE. I DON'T WANT TO POINT BLAME AT ANYTHING. I AM IN FAVOR OF INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS AND DOING WHAT YOU WANT TO YOUR HOME WITHIN REASON. I ALSO AM A HUGE FAN OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS BECAUSE I'M A PURIST AT HEART. ARE THERE ANY LIKE REAL HARDSHIPS THAT IS IT. THE WINDOWS MAINLY THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE RUNNING INTO WHERE YOU WANT TO UPDATE THE WINDOWS AND THE GARAGE. WELL, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO HAVE A THREE CAR GARAGE PERIOD, AND IT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO ADD TO THE HOUSE TO SOME EXTENT.

AND YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE SAME FRAME. YOU HAVE TO USE THE SAME MATERIALS. YOU CAN'T PAINT IT ANY SHADE OF PINK. SO IT IT'S. AND IS THERE ANY I'M NOT SURE IF I SHOULD BE ASKING YOU GUYS THIS. IS THERE ANYTHING IN KEEPING LIKE WIGGLE ROOM WITH KEEPING IT AS A HISTORICAL AND ALLOWING FOR CERTAIN THINGS BASED ON WANTING TO NOT HAVE YOUR WINDOWS BLOWN OUT DURING A HURRICANE OR HAVE A THREE CAR GARAGE BEGGING TO. SURE, I CAN ANSWER TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

OBVIOUSLY WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE APPLICATION HERE WITHOUT DRAWINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT YOU ASSESS A PROPERTY UNDER GUIDELINES AS OUR LOCAL GUIDELINES, AS WELL AS THE NATIONAL. U.S. SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR SPECIFICALLY IN COASTAL AREAS, IMPROVEMENT OF NEWER THINGS LIKE WINDOWS AND MATERIALS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING GENERALLY THAT WHEN YOU KEEP HISTORIC MATERIALS FROM 1910, IT MIGHT NOT LAST AS LONG. SO AT THE HOUSE, I BELIEVE THEY REPLACED SOME WINDOWS AND ADDED SOME NEW MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT IS PART OF THE ASSESSMENT. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A HARD NO. WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE THE PLANS AND UNDERSTAND HOW EVERYTHING WORKS TOGETHER. BUT UNDER THE NATIONAL U.S. SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS AS WELL AS THE LOCAL GUIDELINES, THERE IS SOME LEEWAY FOR THINGS LIKE THAT FOR MODERNIZATION. WHAT ABOUT THE THREE CAR GARAGE? THAT I CAN'T SPEAK ON IN IN? YEAH, IT'S NOT IN THE FRONT. SO TYPICALLY THERE CAN BE SOME. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON MAYBE WHETHER YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR WHETHER IT MAINTAINS THE SAME FORM GENERALLY THAT THAT BACK BUILDING WAS ADDED ON TO IN THE 80S. I WANT TO SAY THEY GOT A VARIANCE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE WOULD LOOK AT IT UNDER THE GENERAL GUIDELINES AND THE OVERALL SITE AND WHETHER IT MAINTAINS OVERALL INTEGRITY. VARIANCES ARE DOABLE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. YEAH YEAH. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S

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IT STARTS WITH THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING SUBMITTING APPLICATION. YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU HAVE, IN MY OPINION, A BOARD THAT GETS TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT MEETS THE STANDARDS. SO SOMEWHAT ARBITRARY AND AMBIGUOUS. AND THEN IF YOU DON'T PREVAIL, YOU COME TO ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL. SO IT IS A ONEROUS PROCESS THAT OTHERS DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW. THAT'S IN THE SAME DISTRICT, JUST THE TWO MULTI-FAMILIES NEXT TO HIM, ONE'S NONCONTRIBUTING ONE'S NOT IN THE DISTRICT. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT. YOU'VE GOT MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH AND MULTIFAMILY TO THE WEST, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO THAT'S THE OTHER ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS DON'T ALWAYS GET ALONG. YOU DO HAVE THREE NEIGHBORS, TWO NEIGHBORS THAT SUPPORT THIS PROCESS. SCOTT GLOVER IS ONE OF THEM. MISS KAISER IS THE OTHER. AND THEN MR. MITCHELL BASICALLY WROTE A LETTER SAYING, I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS. I THOUGHT IT ONLY APPLIED TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT ALL THIS MEANT. SO WITH THAT, AGAIN, I WILL NOT SIT DOWN AND I WILL STOP RESPONDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND YEAH, REAL QUICK. MR. WELL, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION I KNOW, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT. I WILL TELL YOU, AND I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION HIS NAME, BUT HE LIVES ON PINEAPPLE.

HIS HOUSE WAS BUILT LIKE PART OF WAS LIKE 1912, I THINK. AND IT ADDED ON. HE BUILT ON IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A POINT WHERE I, YOU KNOW, TO ME, I'M, I'M GOING TO SIDE WITH, WITH THE, THE HOMEOWNER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT IF THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THERE'S A LOT OF BOXES. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN GO IN, I THINK YOU CAN GO OUT AND HAVING THE NEIGHBORS. I JUST THINK IT'S SPOT ZONING. I LIKE WHAT THE AREA HAD BECOME. AND YOU KNOW, IF I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST GOING TO, HE WAS GOING TO TEAR DOWN AND BUILD A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING I'D BE LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT.

BUT YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. I'M GOING TO THANK YOU, MAYOR. GIVEN ALL THE INFORMATION AND ALL OF THE. BETWEEN THE CONSENT FORM AND THE CODE LANGUAGE, THE LANGUAGE THAT CONTINUES TO TO ERUPT AS VOLUNTARILY. AND SO AT THIS MOMENT, I'M NOT GOING TO ELONGATE THIS ANY LONGER. I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 4433 SECOND.

WAIT, WAIT WAIT, WAIT. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE GOING TO THE LANGUAGE. SO SO IT'S CALLING FOR DENIAL. I'M CALLING FOR APPROVAL. YEAH. AND SO THE, THE RESOLUTION WAS DRAFTED AND PRESENTED AS AS A POTENTIAL. NO, IT'S ACTUALLY AN APPROVAL OF THE RESCISSION REQUEST. RIGHT.

IT'S A IT WAS A OVERTURN OF A HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARDS RECOMMENDATION.

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IT WOULD IT WOULD REMOVE THE THE CONTRIBUTING DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY, A A A MOTION TO REJECT THE RESCISSION REQUEST WOULDN'T BE THROUGH THE RESOLUTION. WE DO A SEPARATE FINAL ORDER. SO SO FOR EVERYONE'S UNDERSTANDING, MR. LARUSSO'S MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 4433 IS TO APPROVE THE RESCISSION REQUEST AND TO RESCIND THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY, AND I'M. AND I'M THINKING THAT AND I SECOND THAT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, FOR APPROVAL, THE RESOLUTION FOR 433, CORRECT? YES. MOTION SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED. NAY. AND I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK

[D. PETITIONS, REMONSTRANCES, AND COMMUNICATIONS]

I WILL LOOK AT IT AND GET BACK WITH YOU. IF SOMETHING HAS TO BE CHANGED IN ORDER FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WHO IS ON THE COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER. OH, PERFECT. NOPE, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND I WILL SAY, I THINK THAT'S A SMART MOVE. I LIKE THE FACT THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SITS ON THAT, AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT AS MAYOR, I WILL NOT BE THROWING MY HAT ON THAT I THINK A COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD GO. GO TO THAT. GOOD CHOICE. OKAY, PERFECT. THEN THE ONLY OTHER TWO THINGS THAT I GOT IS THAT, AND IT WAS ALLUDED TO A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT WE'RE COMING UP ON THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF NINE OVER 11, AND IT'S A VERY SOMBER TIME FOR THE COUNTRY, BUT ALSO ONE THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE ALL JUST TAKE A STEP BACK AND KIND OF REFLECT AND COME TOGETHER AS AMERICANS BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT TRAGIC DAY, I'M SURE EVERYONE HAS A STORY ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE AT, WHAT WAS GOING ON. I WAS PULLED OUT OF SCHOOL. IT WAS A PRETTY, PRETTY, PRETTY TRAUMATIC TIME FOR THE COUNTRY. BUT I DO THINK IT'S A TIME FOR US TO THINK ABOUT COMING TOGETHER, THINK ABOUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND I JUST HOPE THAT EVERYONE TAKES THE TIME TO REFLECT ON THAT. ADDITIONALLY, IT'S ALSO THE SAME WEEK THAT WOULD BE A ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY WHEN CHARLIE KIRK WAS ASSASSINATED. AND, AND IT'S VERY SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS STATED. I THINK THAT WE CAN ALL LEARN AN IMPORTANT LESSON FROM THAT. WHAT I CONSIDER A HORRIFIC INCIDENT WAS THAT DESPITE DISAGREEMENTS OF OPINIONS, DESPITE MAYBE BEING ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE AISLE ON ISSUES THAT WE NEED, YOU KNOW, DIALOG AND DISCOURSE AND FOR US ALL TO COME TOGETHER TO TALK.

AND EVEN IF IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE, AND EVEN IF IT JUST PUTS SOME OUT THERE ON THE RECORD FOR WHY WE SUPPORT A CERTAIN THING, THAT WE RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS TO SPEAK THAT WAY, AND THAT WE ALL COME TOGETHER IN THAT FREEDOM OF SPEECH ASPECT OF OUR POLITICAL DISCOURSE.

THANK YOU. MR. I DON'T HAVE MUCH. ON THE 26TH, I WENT TO IT WAS CALLED THROUGH THE REALTORS ASSOCIATION, THE MORNING WITH CONGRESSMAN HARIDOPOLOS. IT WAS A BREAKFAST FOR REALTORS. WE GOT TO LEARN A LOT OF UPDATES OF WHAT'S GOING ON THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE REALTY INDUSTRY.

SO THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE, VERY GOOD TO GO TO. I WAS ALSO GOING TO BRING UP THE NINE OVER 11 COMING UP. I GREW UP IN THE SUBURBS OF D.C. SO VERY ROUGH DAY. SO I ALSO GREET EVERYBODY, TAKE A MOMENT AND THINK OF THE LIVES THAT WERE LOST, THE THE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT WERE LOST.

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SO WE NEED TO RESPECT THE FREE SPEECH AND THE CONVERSATIONS ALWAYS KEEP CONVERSING WITH EACH OTHER. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. YEAH. OKAY. I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT AT HELEN BLAZE IN THE TIKI HUT. HOW DID THAT TIKI HUT GO BE BUILT IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT? I THOUGHT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE HARDBOARD AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO HOW DID THIS ALL HAPPEN? WITHIN 3 OR 4 DAYS? HOW? I MEAN, SO THERE ARE THERE ARE SOME PERMIT EXEMPTIONS THAT THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE IS POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE FOR UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE. BUT TO YOUR POINT THERE, THERE IS SOME WORK THAT'S BEING DONE THAT WE THINK IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THAT EXEMPTION. WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CONTRACTORS, INCLUDING THE ESTHETIC APPROVAL THROUGH HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. SO I THINK WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY. ANOTHER THING IS ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN UP HERE HAVING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THINGS. WE ARE HAVE BROWN AND BROWN AND UNITED UNITED HEALTH HAVE FOUND THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM AND THEY'RE GOING THEY'RE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO BE 30 DAYS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, JENNY, IS IT 30 DAYS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET BACK WITH OUR WITH STAFF HERE ABOUT CORRECTING THAT? SO STAY TUNED. IT MIGHT BE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE 30 DAYS. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER BEFORE THOSE THINGS ARE CORRECTED. WE SHOULD HAVE A TIMELINE LATER THIS WEEK. OKAY. BUT STAY STAY TUNED. EMPLOYEES. IT HAS THREE. I GATHER IT'S 300 EMPLOYEES THAT IS AFFECTED. SO I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALL GOTTEN THE BILL THAT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING. AND THAT WAS A LITTLE THAT WAS A LITTLE JARRING. SO THEY I'LL KEEP FIGHTING FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS I'VE TALKED WELL, I'VE LOOKED AT THINGS IS THAT IT'S CALLED BREVARD CULTURAL ALLIANCE. AND I'VE TALKED TO JENNY ABOUT IT AND I'VE LOOKED IT UP. THEY ALREADY HAVE. THEY ALREADY HAVE ART UP AT THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT, THE COUNTY BUILDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT AND IT'S FREE.

I'M HOPING THAT STAFF I'M ASKING THAT STAFF LOOK INTO IT AND GET BACK TO US SO THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IN OUR BUILDING. IT LOOKS LIKE AN OPERATING ROOM GOING INTO, YOU KNOW, PRE-OP. SO IF WE DON'T IF EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD WITH THAT, TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT AND IT IS FREE, IT'S NOT. I MEAN, WE'VE ALL HITTING GOING HERE WITH THE BUDGET. SO I'M LOOKING AT FREE. I LIKE THAT WORD. SO I'M HOPING THAT EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD WITH THAT. OKAY. I TOTALLY FORGOT TO MENTION BECAUSE I'M TIRED. ROUGH NIGHT SICK KIDS. I THIS PAST FRIDAY I WENT TO THE NINE OVER 11 MEMORIAL FIVE K THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE FIREFIGHTERS. AND I WANT TO GIVE A HUGE THANK YOU FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS FOR DOING THAT EVERY YEAR. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND IT RAISED A LOT OF MONEY FOR A GOOD CAUSE. SO YEAH, THAT'S IT. SORRY. THAT'S GOOD, MR. SMITH. YES, MAYOR, AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL, I KNOW I DID A TEN POINT STRATEGY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WAS TO SORT OF GET A CONSENSUS TO DETERMINE WHICH INITIATIVES WERE WHETHER WARRANT FURTHER EVALUATION. I KNOW ALL OF THEM WERE NOT DEFINITELY WITHIN THE NEAR TERM, BUT I THINK THAT FROM OUR DISCUSSION FOR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET A CONSENSUS IF WE CAN DO FURTHER EVALUATION ON. FOUR AND LET STAFF SORT OF BRING IT BACK TO US. AND THOSE.

FOUR WAS THE VACANT AND FORECLOSED PROPERTY REGISTRY. WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THE DIGITAL SIGNAGE INITIATIVE AND THEN THE EXTERNAL FUNDING AND CLASS ACTIONS, WHICH IS SOME THINGS THAT ARE ONGOING. THERE WAS A FOLLOW UP MEETING ABOUT THAT. AND THEN I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN NEWMAN BROUGHT UP A PRETTY INTERESTING POINT ABOUT THE MELBOURNE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE FOUR OUT OF THE TEN THAT I THINK WE COULD. I WOULD LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS FOR FURTHER EVALUATION. WELL, IN REGARDS TO THE MELBOURNE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THAT'S THE. IS THAT THE ONE WHERE WHEN I LOOKED UP THE ATLANTA ONE THAT. ABOUT THE TAXPAYER FUNDING AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND I SUGGESTED THAT GOING INTO A NON PROFIT. YEAH, I MEAN, I, I WOULD SUGGEST FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE BECAUSE LIKE, AND YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT BEFORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE PARKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I THINK IN PARTICULAR THAT ONE IS MORE SO A, IF I RECALL, WE GO OUT TO

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AND MAYBE TAKE ONE AT A TIME INSTEAD OF THROWING MULTIPLE THINGS AT STAFF, ESPECIALLY DURING BUDGET TIME. JUST START WITH THAT ONE AND SEE WHERE THAT TAKES US. AND THEN ONCE WE GET IN THERE, THEN MAYBE LOOKING AT THE OTHER ONES DOWN THE LINE, I AGREE. WELL, AND YOU KNOW WHAT? NOW THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT ON THE VACANT PROPERTY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS. WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN FOR THE CITY FINANCIALLY. IT I THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD BE AN AN IDEA KIND OF GET A ROUGH NUMBER BALLPARK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I HEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT OTHER OTHER CITIES GET CERTAIN FUNDING STREAMLINES. AND I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON THAT BEFORE WE. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S THE POINT. THAT WOULD BE THE POINT, RIGHT? GET MORE INFORMATION AND GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, SEND IT, DISTRIBUTE IT TO COUNCIL. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA ITEM OF THAT, THAT SOUND GOOD. I'M LOOKING TO JENNY, IS THAT SOUND? SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD, WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN. SO BEFORE WE JUST BEFORE WE HAD IT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM TO GATHER THE INFORMATION, DISTRIBUTE IT TO COUNCIL, THEN COUNCIL WILL TELL ME IF THEY WANT IT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. WELL, YEAH.

AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THE SAME THING, LIKE THE, WELL, THE, LIKE THE VICE MAYOR SAID, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THROWING A BUNCH OF STUFF THIS WAY AND, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO KIND OF BREAK THINGS DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ALL IN ONE BASKET, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

SO COULDN'T THAT JUST BE ONE AGENDA ITEM? THEN WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT THE ONE AGENDA ITEM, THE VACANT FORECLOSED PROPERTY? WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME NUMBERS ON THAT, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. YOU'VE BEEN PULLING THOSE PAPERS OUT A COUPLE TIMES. YEAH, I KNOW, I ONLY HAVE A FEW MORE MEETINGS TO PULL PAPERS. YEAH, WELL, IN MY INVESTIGATION SO FAR, THERE'S 1480 PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE FORECLOSURE REGISTRY.

LISTING IS MANAGED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT. STAFF USES THIS TO ASSIST WITH DISTRESSED PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN ABANDONED FOR PROPERTIES NOT REGISTERED, HAVE ACTIVE CODE VIOLATIONS, CODE ENFORCEMENT REACHES AND SENDS THE BANK A NOTICE. TYPICALLY, THE VIOLATIONS ARE CORRECTED, INCLUDING THE REGISTRY. SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE STILL ON THE LIST BECAUSE THE BANK MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN TO TAKE THEM OFF. SO THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE, IS THE FORECLOSED PROPERTIES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, WE HAVE TO HAVE MARK HAROLD HERE CODE ENFORCEMENT. I AGREE, AND HE HAS TO LET US KNOW HOW MUCH OF A CHALLENGE THIS IS FOR HIM. NOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE REVENUE FOR THE CITY. THERE ARE 2997 PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED AS VACANT PROPERTIES BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. 212 OF THESE LISTED ARE MUNICIPALLY OWNED LAND, 55 ARE STATE OWNED, 26 ARE THE AIRPORTS, 730 RESIDENTIAL COMMON AREA, I.E. SUBDIVISION PONDS AND GREEN SPACE ARE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED. NOW, GIVEN THE MATH THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME, THERE'S $300 A YEAR FOR REGISTRATION OF THE OF THE OF THE VACANT LANDS. THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $270,000, BASICALLY. AND THAT LAND IS NOT JUST INDIVIDUALLY OWNED. IT'S OWNED BY DEVELOPERS. IT'S OWNED BY CONTRACTORS WHO ARE GOING TO BUILD. SO THIS IS ALL IN THE NUMBERS. SO IF I SAY TO TO A DEVELOPER THAT I'M GOING TO, I AM GOING TO CHARGE YOU $300 A YEAR JUST TO HAVE VACANT LAND UNTIL YOU CAN BUILD ON THAT LAND. I THINK THAT'S ANTI-BUSINESS AND ANTI-GROWTH.

SO I'M GOING TO BE DEAD SET AGAINST THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH. I'M SORRY. MR. THAT'S FINE. BUT BUT WE'RE HERE TO TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, RECOURSE AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE JUST THE RAW NUMBERS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON SOME OF THIS BECAUSE I KNEW IT WOULD COME BACK UP AGAIN. AND 60, 62 VACANT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS LISTED BY THE FIRE PREVENTION.

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YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S IT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. OKAY, I AGREE. NO, AND I WOULD TELL YOU NOW, I WOULD ASSUME THAT IN THAT THE I DON'T ASSUME VACANT PROPERTY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU MENTIONED BEING IN THAT, I MEAN, I LOOK AT IT, THAT'S WHAT'S PART OF THE I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND AND, AND, BUT WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS, YOU KNOW, VACANT VACANT PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW, EMPTY LAND. I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S SO VAGUE THAT AGAIN, YOU, YOU OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND YOU OWN A, A LOT NEXT TO IT IS VACANT. AND WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF, OF THE DIMENSIONS OF THAT PROPERTY EXACTLY. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE A NEW TAX. YEAH. IT IN A WAY IT IS IN A WAY NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE AGAIN, I THINK THAT IT REQUIRES FURTHER EXPLORATION BECAUSE HERE WE ARE. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT THE EXPERTS.

WE'RE NOT SOUTHERN SOUTHERN EXPERTS. AND THIS IS A BUSINESS MODEL THAT IS NOT JUST WE WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST CITY. SO I MEAN, WE HAVE OTHER USE CASES TO LOOK AT AND ASK THESE VERY QUESTIONS. SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT JUST SPECULATING. WE CAN ACTUALLY ASK THE QUESTIONS. AND IF IT FITS AND IF IT DOESN'T FIT, THEN YOU MUST ACQUIT. I MEAN AND THAT'S WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID. OH YEAH. RIGHT. BUT IF IT FITS THEN THEN IT'S A REVENUE POTENTIAL REVENUE. MR. HANLEY, YOU HAD SOMETHING. I OWN PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA. I DO TOO, MISS HANLEY.

OKAY. IT IS A VACANT LOT. I PAY THE TAXES ON IT. I KEEP THE UPKEEP ON IT. SO NOW YOU'RE GOING. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS I'M GOING TO GET AN ADDITIONAL TAX ON THE PROPERTY I OWN WITHOUT THE BENEFITS. IF WE DO THAT, I'M GOING TO RIGHT NOW WE PASSED THIS. I GOT THREE LAW FIRMS BUILDING FIRST PERSON THAT WANTS TO PUT A SUIT AGAINST US. I WILL GET THEM THE LAWYER I AM. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MONEY GRAB. THIS IS NOTHING ELSE BUT A MONEY GRAB.

WELL, I THINK WHAT SERVICES ARE YOU GIVING US? HOW MANY OTHER CITIES, MISS HANLEY? I'VE ALREADY. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY. AND WHAT'S THE BENEFIT? ANOTHER CITY DOESN'T MEAN THAT A LAWSUIT WON'T COME AGAINST THEM. OKAY? THE CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST THEM. I THINK THE PROBLEM WE HAVE HERE IS THE DEFINITION. BECAUSE WHEN, AGAIN, THIS IS BEING THROWN OUT AGAIN, IF YOU OWN VACANT PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF, TO ME, THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON A REGISTRY AT ALL. BUT THAT'S WHAT. WELL, AND WHAT I'M SAYING, IF THAT'S ON THERE, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU IF THERE'S LIKE A, YOU KNOW, FORECLOSED HOUSE, YOU KNOW, AND NOBODY'S TAKING CARE OF, YOU KNOW, THE ZOMBIE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I CAN UNDERSTAND. SO I THINK WE'RE THROWING, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND THAT'S WHY, LIKE MR. LARUSSO SAID, WE'D HAVE MR. HAROLD HERE TO EXPLAIN. THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS GOOD IN PERSPECTIVE, BUT IF WE'RE HANDLING IT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BIG MONEY GENERATOR, AGAIN, I'M NOT LOOKING TO THROW AN EXTRA TAX ON PEOPLE. OR LIKE YOU SAID, OWNING PROPERTY, YOU TAKE CARE OF IT. WHY SHOULD YOU BE TAXED ON IT LIKE THAT? I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING JUST TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WHAT WOULD THE DEFINITIONS BE, WHICH PIECES OF LAND WOULD WOULD WE BE PUTTING ON THE LIST AND HOW WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THE CITY? ARE WE JUST GOING TO MAYBE HIT THOSE? I REMEMBER WE HIT ONE OF THOSE ZOMBIE HOUSES, LIKE UP IN NORTH OF POST ROAD. YEAH. AND SO THOSE THINGS. YES. BUT I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR, SOME KIND OF STAFF, MAYBE PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION, SOMETHING TO GIVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION. AND I, AND I, AND I, I HATE TO, I HATE TO CREATE BRINKSMANSHIP, RIGHT. BUT I THINK WE'RE, I THINK JENNY AND I WOULD SORT OF BE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING ENOUGH. I DON'T, I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR THE DIRECTION. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT IN THE MANNER THAT IF YOU OWN PROPERTY, LIKE, LIKE I HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED, THAT'S FOR SALE RIGHT NOW. IS THAT ON THE LIST? PROBABLY NOT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN GOOD SHAPE. RIGHT. WELL, HOW DO YOU DEFINE GOOD SHAPE? BECAUSE BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUSINESS THERE AT THIS TIME. BUT IT IS FOR SALE. I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY. RIGHT. IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION POINT TO HAVE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT THE FIRST CITY AND THERE'S MULTIPLE OTHERS. SO MAYBE IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT FOR MELBOURNE, BUT

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CAN YOU WRITE ME A CHECK FOR $300? IT IS WITHIN A SINGLE PARCEL AND THEREFORE IT IS NOT A VACANT LOT. IT'S BIG ENOUGH TO BE AJ JOHNSON. BRING SOMETHING THAT'S THE SAME.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE BROUGHT. SO WHY IS IT ISN'T THIS DATA MINING, DATA MINING ALREADY INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW THAT HE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT OTHER THAN WE ALREADY HAVE THIS INFORMATION AND HE'S JUST EXPLOITING IT. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO WELL, ON THE EMPTY LOT PROCESS HE HE'D MAKE IF GIVEN THE NUMBERS, HE'D MAKE $67,000. THAT'S HIS TAKE. JUST LETTING YOU ALL KNOW. I MEAN, THAT'S WITH INFORMATION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN HOUSE. WELL, WE WENT THROUGH THIS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

YEAH. I REMEMBER WE SAID WE SAID NO THEN. ALL RIGHT. SO ANYTHING ELSE CAN WE MOVE FORWARD? ANYTHING ELSE? MR. AND THEN I REMEMBER I WAS ON 911. THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I WAS IN THE MILITARY. I WAS STATIONED IN MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA, AND I WAS IN THE AIR ACTUALLY GETTING READY TO GO TDY TO SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA. AND I GOT MY AIRPLANE WAS SHUT DOWN AND I HAD TO STOP IN A MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA FOR ABOUT A WEEK. SO IT WAS A PRETTY CRAZY TIME. YEAH. SO YEAH, I REMEMBER WHERE I WAS. I REMEMBER WHERE I WAS AS WELL TOO. I'M SURE EVERYBODY DOES. YEAH. ANYTHING FOR YOU, MR. RUSSO? YEAH, I GOT A FEW THINGS REAL QUICK. KEVIN, I WANT THE STADIUM PICTURE FIRST. IT'S GOING TO BE THE NEW YORK YANKEES. THERE YOU GO. SO? SO MYSELF AND TWO MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND MR. NEWMAN. WE SIT ON THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT AUTHORITY. AND I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THESE RENDERINGS THROUGH THE THROUGH THE NEWS, THROUGH THE BOTH TV AND AND PRINT NEWS. BUT WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE WERE PART OF THIS THIS DECISION, THE THREE OF US. AND I WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO ALSO RECOGNIZE THE MAYOR WHO HAS BEEN BEHIND THE SCENES ON THIS STADIUM IN WORKING WITH PERMITTING AND ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON AS WELL TO, TO MAKE THIS A REALITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS I'M FROM JERSEY. DOES EVERYBODY KNOW THAT? REALLY? ARE YOU KEVIN? SO THIS IS RUTGERS. AND SO BACK IN WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD, I WAS A ROCK STAR IN THE TRACK AND FIELD ARENA. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT WAS YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT ME. I HAD JUST COME BACK TO THE BEACH, TOO. YEAH, EXACTLY. AND RUTGERS IS, IS A SCHOOL THAT I TALKED TO THAT I COULD NOT ATTEND, BUT THAT IS THE SCARLET KNIGHTS. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNEW THAT. NEVER FORGET, IT'S NOT JUST A SLOGAN, IT'S AN OBLIGATION. IT'S AN OBLIGATION FOR US TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN THE SAME WAY OUR GENERATION, THE GREATEST GENERATION, BROUGHT FORWARD PEARL HARBOR. AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE TO REALIZE IT. I ALSO, BEING FROM JERSEY, WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE TRADE CENTERS, THE TWO BUILDINGS WERE GOOD TIMES AS WELL BEFOREHAND. THAT IS THE CENTER OF THE FINANCIAL WORLD.

IT WAS THE WINDOWS ON THE WORLD RESTAURANT UP ON TOP HAD ANNIVERSARIES, PROPOSALS, BIRTHDAY PARTIES. THERE IS A LOT OF A LOT OF MEMORIES THAT GO INTO THOSE TWO BUILDINGS

[02:10:04]

IT WAS MOBILE PHONE THEN IT WASN'T CELL PHONE, MOBILE PHONE FROM MY HEADQUARTERS IN JACKSONVILLE SAYING, I MEAN IN PENNSYLVANIA SAYING, WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU? AND SO THEN I TURNED ON THE NEWS AND THEN I GOT ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT IT. SO I'M SURE WE ALL REMINISCE ABOUT WHERE WE WERE THAT DAY, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS. SOMEWHERE AROUND DAYTONA BEACH, IN MY CAR, DRIVING NORTH. VICE MAYOR. SO I WAS TEACHING AT THE TIME AT RIVIERA ELEMENTARY, ACTUALLY SIXTH GRADE. BUT I REMEMBER BECAUSE I GREW UP IN IN NEW YORK CITY AND STATEN ISLAND RIGHT ACROSS THE WATER, MY HIGH SCHOOL OVERLOOKED THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. SO THAT GIVES YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INDICATION OF WHERE I WAS, BUT I PLAYED BASKETBALL AND OUR STATE CHAMPIONSHIP LUNCH WAS AT WINDOWS OF THE WORLD UP AT THE TOP, AND IT WAS JUST IT THE ENERGY ALL IN THAT FINANCIAL DISTRICT IS WAS JUST AMAZING.

SO IT WAS A TRAGEDY. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT WERE THERE THAT DAY, FIRST RESPONDERS THAT WERE THERE THAT DAY. SO IT HOLDS, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL PLACE FOR ME. BUT MOVING ON. SO THE. SORRY, MY MIND IS GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT SEPTEMBER 14TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THE COUNTY IS GOING TO HEAR OUR THAT LAND THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE INTO MULTIPLE HOUSES AND THE SERVICES THERE. WHAT'S THAT? DO THEY HAVE THE WATER AND SEWER THEY'RE GOING YET? NO. SO WHAT THE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE IN THEIR STAFF REPORT. IN LOOKING AT IT, THEY HAVE ASKED. AND. FOR REQUIREMENT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO SUBMIT A PLAN WHICH THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE, AND KEEP A ONE ACRE, ONE PROPERTY, ONE HOUSE PER ACRE. EVEN IF THEY CHANGE THE ZONING. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS IF THAT'S GOING TO PASS OR WHATEVER. BUT WHAT I'M ASKING OF COUNCIL IS THIS. I CANNOT GO TO THE 914 AT 3:00 BECAUSE I HAVE A CLASS THEN. SO I'M ASKING IF SOMEBODY ELSE CAN GO AND SPEAK FOR COUNCIL. IF NOT JENNY, I'LL GO. YOU'LL GO? OKAY, PERFECT. I CAN GO TO THE SUBSEQUENT COMMISSIONER MEETING, SO I'LL BE THERE. BUT THAT 914, I CANNOT GO, BUT I WILL STILL GO THROUGH IT, STILL GO THROUGH IT. STILL JUST LIKE US. DENIALS DOESN'T MATTER FROM. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THE COMP AND CLASS. IS THERE AN UPDATE? IS THE CLASS CLASS. THE CLASSIFICATION PORTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED. IT IS BACK AT THE CONSULTANT FOR THE COMPENSATION PORTION OF IT. I AM HOPING THEY MADE IT SOUND LIKE IT COULD BE A FAIRLY QUICK TURNAROUND FOR US TO LOOK AT THE AREAS OF COMPRESSION. LOOK. WELL, THERE'S THREE MAIN AREAS. ONE IS FOR IN THE NEW COMPENSATION SCALE, DO WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE BELOW THE MINIMUM COMPENSATION THAT'S FIRST PRIORITY. THEN WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE COMPRESSION AREAS. AND SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE THIRD OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AFTER EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT.

BUT THERE'S THREE MAIN AREAS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. OH, THE THIRD ONE IS, IS TO GET EVERYONE TO LIKE THE, THE MEDIAN VALUE OR THE 50TH PERCENTILE OF THE RANGE. AND SO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE FITTING IN WITH NOT JUST OUR PEERS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AGENCIES THAT WE LOOKED INTO AND LOOKED AT THEIR SALARY RANGES. SO THAT SHOULD BE, I SHOULD BE GETTING A REPORT HERE. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE, BUT I KNOW THAT WE DID SUBMIT IT TO THEM. THE CLASSIFICATION FINALIZED CLASSIFICATION. WE SHOULD BE GETTING THE REPORT BACK ON THE COMPENSATION. SO I'D SAY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WE WILL HAVE THAT. WE'LL REVIEW THAT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE AND GET THAT OUT FOR YOU KNOW I KNOW IT'S BUDGET SEASON AND THAT'S STAFF IS VERY, VERY BUSY. BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A REALLY LONG TIME NOW. THIS IS IMPORTANT. I WOULD REALLY ENJOY MY PARTING GIFT FROM COUNCIL TO BE THAT THE EMPLOYEES GET THEIR RAISES BEFORE I GO. YEAH. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YOU CAN HAND OUT THE CHECKS. ALRIGHT, VICE MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO SAY TONIGHT

[02:15:07]

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER AND I'LL SAY SUCCESSFUL BUDGET SEASON, BECAUSE WE DO SEE A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE OUT OF CONTROL. AND, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY, I THINK, HAVE DONE A STELLAR JOB IN GENERAL. SO THAT BEING SAID, IT IS

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