[00:00:02]
LET'S START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SHALL WE QUICK, UM, UM, HOLD AND LIKE INTO YOUR FACE PLEASE.
I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHERE IT STAND ONE WAY NATION HONOR GOD AND RESULT WITH LIBERTY.
WE'VE GOT, UH, UM, HUNTER BENNINGER.
DID WE PRINT UP MINUTES FOR, OR JUST GOING BY THE EMAIL? UH, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE MINUTES.
YEAH, I SET 'EM OUT ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AFTER THE MEETING.
DOES ANYONE, I DON'T USUALLY PRINT THEM OUT.
HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINUTES OR CAN WE APPROVE THEM? YES.
AYE, I APPROVE MINUTES APPROVED PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, HE DID SEND, MEGAN SENT THE, UH, UPDATED VERSION.
THE, THE THIRD VERSION, RIGHT? THE REVISION.
YOU HAD THE SAME DATE, BUT YOU JUST SAID VERSION THREE.
OH, HE'S, UM, HE SENT ME AN EMAIL WITH HIS LITTLE EDITS AND THEN I JUST SENT YOU THE, THE VERSION FOUR EARLIER SO YOU COULD TABLE TILL B FOUR.
IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN TABLE FOR NEXT MONTH FOR IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT I MOTION WE TABLE IT TO NEXT MONTH.
THAT MAKES, UH, ALL OF US, UH, SIX B TRACKING DATA FOR STRATEGIC GOALS.
THANK YOU FOR SENDING ME WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR.
I THINK I MIGHT NEED TO TALK TO, UM, DR.
UM, WHAT WAS HIS NAME AGAIN? WINDSOR.
TO MAKE, UH, MORE SENSE OF THOSE SPREADSHEETS.
UM, I DIDN'T TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO 'EM.
I KIND OF JUST, UM, LOOKED AT HIM AND CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION.
SO, UM, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO GET HIS PHONE NUMBER OR WE COULD CONTACT HIM.
HE WASN'T IN VERY GOOD HEALTH THE LAST TIME WE YEAH.
WE'LL HAVE TO, I HAVE, WE HAVE HIS EMAIL AND CONTACT INFO, SO OKAY.
WE'LL, WE'LL REACH OUT, SEE HOW HE'S FEELING.
UH, AND BRUCE LINDSAY WILL BE HERE NEXT MONTH TOO.
AND HE WAS A FORMER BOARD MEMBER, SO HE'LL BE VERY HELPFUL AS WELL TO TALK TO BRUCE LINDSAY.
HE WAS ALSO INVOLVED WITH THAT.
HE'S INVOLVED WITH THE NEW PD FOR THEIR, UH, THERMAL STORAGE FACILITY.
STEVEN, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE OF WHAT YOUR TRACKING DATA FOR STRATEGIC GOALS, UH, WAS ABOUT? IS THAT PART OF THE SUSTAINABLE ACTION PLAN? YEAH.
IT'S TO FURTHER DEFINE OUR BASELINE.
WHICH APPARENTLY WE DO HAVE A BASELINE, BUT
THE FORMER BOARD HAD A STRATEGIC ENERGY PLAN AND THAT STRATEGIC TRACKING WENT WITH THAT PLAN.
SO LIKE THE CITY HAS DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT INITIATIVES TO LOWER ENERGY, BUT UM, YEAH, IT'S JUST LIKE KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE.
SO IN THE CURRENT ONE THAT, UM, NICOLA SENT THE SUSTAINABLE, IT DOESN'T HAVE A STRATEGICAL TRACKING SYSTEM IN IT.
NOW, SO IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT PERTAINS TO THE NEW SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, THEN YOU COULD DO THAT TOO.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF HIS COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, FINALIZING THAT WAS MEASURABLE
[00:05:01]
OUTCOMES, GETTING MEASURABLES GETTING A BASELINE.REALLY GETTING CLEAR NUMBERS ON WHERE WE STAND.
BUT YOU PROBABLY NEED EVERYONE HERE OR SOMEONE NEEDS TO LOOK INTO IT.
AND I'LL GET FURTHER INTO THAT THIS MONTH, THIS COMING MONTH.
ANY MORE COMMENTARY ON SIX B? HEARING NONE.
MOVING ON TO C BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM AND LIVING STREET SKATES PROJECT.
I GOT YOUR EDITS AND I HAVE 'EM.
IF YOU WANNA TABLE IT, YOU CAN WAIT OR, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO PASS OUT, WE MIGHT AS WELL DO THAT.
AND, AND YOU GOT WE DO HAVE QUORUM, SO THIS HAS YOUR EDITS ON IT.
I DIDN'T LIKE THEM YET, SO I JUST WANNA THEY WERE REALLY, YOU GUYS GO OVER IT MINOR.
UM, WELL I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN HERE.
UH, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH MY EDITS ONE AT A TIME.
UH, IT WAS RIGHT A WAY AND MADE IT RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE EDITS IN RED.
UM, INCREASED USE OF FLORIDA NATIVE LANDSCAPING.
UM, USE OF LANDSCAPING DIDN'T REALLY HIT RIGHT FOR ME.
I THOUGHT PLANTS WERE BETTER THERE.
UM, REDUCED DEPENDENCY ON HIGH WATER ORNAMENTAL PLANTS.
TO ME THAT STRUCK ME AS LIKE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HIGH TIDE OR WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN HIGH WATER? SO I JUST KIND OF SWITCHED THAT AROUND.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BETTER WORDED, BUT OH NO.
LIKE DROUGHT TOLERANT IS WHAT I THINK YOU MEANT.
DROUGHT TOLERANT IS A VERY CONCISE WAY.
I I PREFER THAT OVER WHAT I WROTE.
YOU CAN MAKE AN EDIT AND SEND IT IN.
UH, SO, UM, INCREASE DROUGHT, TOLER USAGE OF DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANT OR YEAH, I THINK IT INCREASE USE OF DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS OR YEAH.
YOU COULD JUST TAKE OUT HIGH WATER USE DROUGHT TOLERANT.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SENTENCE INSTEAD OF THAT WHOLE THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE STREET SCAPE THING IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT IT MIGHT ACTUALLY LEAD TO, UH, SOME POLLINATOR MORTALITY BEING RIGHT ON ROADWAYS.
SO THOUGHT INSTEAD OF IMPROVE, INCREASE HABITAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WORD THERE.
WHERE'S THAT? UH, THE NEXT LINE DOWN.
SO YOU ARE, YOU WANT TO USE MM-HMM
YOU WANNA USE INCREASE, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, AND COMMENTS ARE WELCOME THROUGHOUT.
UH, THE NEXT EDIT WAS REDUCE URBAN HEAT IMPACTS USING NATURAL VEGETATION INSTEAD OF THROUGH NATURAL VEGETATION.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST SORT OF A GRAMMATICAL THING.
I THINK IT READS BETTER THAT WAY.
UH, BACK OF THAT PAGE IS FOSTER PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN SCHOOLS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND OTHER PUBLIC RESOURCES.
I WANTED TO ADD THAT BECAUSE I SPECIFICALLY THOUGHT OF, UH, U-F-I-F-A-S AND THE EXTENSION AGENTS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL.
THEY'D, THEY'D BE HAPPY TO GET INVOLVED.
AND THEN ON THE LAST PAGE, I JUST ADDED THAT THE UF EXTENSION OFFICE.
AND I SAW YOU HAD CHANGE OF GREENERY.
SO I WANTED TO PUT IN NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS.
OUR LOCAL NATIVE PLANT NURSERY.
WE USED TO HAVE MAPLE STREET NATIVES, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE NOT HERE ANYMORE.
[00:10:01]
THE SUN WAS KIND OF RUNNING IT, BUT YEAH.WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT IS A BUSINESS, RIGHT? OH, IT'S A BUSINESS NATIVE LANDSCAPING BUSINESS.
CHANGE OF GREENERY LANDSCAPING CO CAN MEAN, CAN WE MAKE IT SO IT'S MORE CLEAR? UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY, BUT CHANGE OF GREENERY, UH, L LANDSCAPING COMPANY.
IS THAT WHAT HE CALLS THEMSELVES? I MEAN, NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS IS ALSO NOT REALLY, I DON'T THEY'RE BOTH, UH, NATIVE.
LOCAL LANDSCAPE BUSINESS OR SOMETHING.
OR MAYBE THERE'S A FULL NAME FOR THAT BUSINESS THAT WOULD FURTHER EXPLAIN.
I ALWAYS KNOW AS CHANGE OF GREEN.
I DIDN'T MEAN I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
AND EVEN NATIVE BUTTER FLOWERS IS WHEN I GIVE OUT THE CARDS TO OTHER PEOPLE, I'M LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? YEAH.
SO ANYWAY, I THINK, UH, UH, MAKING IT MORE CLEAR LOCAL LANDSCAPING COMPANIES OR SOMETHING.
UNLESS YOU, YOU FIND THAT IT'S LANDSCAPING, IT'S CLEAR.
IS THIS, WHAT DO THEY CALL THEMSELVES? DO THEY CALL THEMSELVES A LANDSCAPING COMPANY? LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
WELL, THEY, THEY DO MORE THAN LANDSCAPING.
CHANGE OF GREENERY, NATIVE LANDSCAPE AND GARDEN SERVICES.
OUR GUEST OFFICER HAS SOMETHING TO ADD.
IT SAYS NATIVE LANDSCAPE AND GARDEN SERVICES.
THAT'S FOR CHANGE OF GREENERY.
WHAT ABOUT NATIVE BUTTER FLOWERS? UM, I FORGOT WHAT THEIR NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS LAND.
UH, PROBABLY NATIVE LANDSCAPE NURSERY OR SOMETHING.
NATIVE PLANTS AND POLLINATOR LANDSCAPING.
ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THE LIVING STREETSCAPE PROJECT? NO, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU, UH, DID WAS IMPROVE IT.
IS THIS GONNA END UP ON THE MELBOURNE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING? OR IS THIS GONNA BE DISSEMINATED SOMEHOW? OR IS THIS JUST FOR OUR BENEFIT? UM, YEAH, THIS WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE ONCE WE GET GOING.
BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO UNDERTAKE? BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, I, I LOOK AT IT AS THIS, AS A KIND OF A PROPOSAL.
IS IT, I MEAN, IT GOES ON A WEBSITE.
AUSTIN WAS, UM, AUSTIN WAS THE ONE THAT WAS RIGHT.
SO HE WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF APPLICATION YES.
FOR BUSINESSES OR SCHOOLS THAT WANT TO PLANT.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A COLLABORATION.
'CAUSE IF IT JUST WENT OUT ON THE WEBSITE, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO.
IF IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING.
SO, SO THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE A COLLABORATION.
AND I THINK, I THINK BRINGING OFF GETTING INTO THE CONVERSATION RIGHT.
BUT THIS WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A PROPOSAL SOMEHOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULD HAVE TO BE NOT THIS ONE.
THE BEEP CAN JUST DO YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH, YOU COULD JUST DO, I THINK THE THING THOUGH, IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY OUR DIRECTOR.
THAT'S WHAT, WHO HAS TO APPROVE IT.
BUT MY POINT BEING, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GONNA ACTUALLY WHEN IT COMES UP YEAH.
IF THERE'S NO FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, THEN YOU KNOW, AUSTIN HAS TO BE
OR FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RAISE MONEY FOR IT.
IDEAS ARE ONE THING, BUT THEN ACTION PLAN IS THE SECOND.
ANY MORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM? LIVING STREETSCAPES PROJECT?
[00:15:02]
NOPE.I'LL MAKE THESE EDITS AND SEND THEM OUT.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE GEMS AWARDS WARDS.
TODD, UH, STILL SET FOR NEXT SATURDAY.
UH, I WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE.
I THINK MEGAN WILL BE THE ONLY ONE.
CHERYL HAS FLORIDA MASTER NATURALIST AND TODD HAS A SURGERY ON HIS BACK STARTING ON TUESDAY.
SO HE'S GONNA BE OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, WEEKS, WHATEVER.
AS MANY OF THEM THAT CAN KENDO SHOULD BE THERE.
UM, SEPTEMBER 26TH AT 10:00 AM AT THE MELBOURNE FOUNDERS MUSEUM, RIGHT OFF OF BROTHERS.
HAS ANYBODY BEEN OVER THERE? IT'S REALLY NICE.
IT'S JUST LIKE A LITTLE CORNER HOUSE THAT THEY TURNED INTO THE MUSEUM.
JAMES SHACKLEFORD, UM, IS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS.
HE IS TENANT, HE MONITORS THE MUSEUM, BUT HE'LL TAKE US ON A TOUR OF THE LITTLE MUSEUM.
THEY HAVE LIKE A VIDEO IN THERE AND YOU LEARN A LOT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF LIKE, WHO WAS HERE BEFORE.
I'VE BEEN TO IT ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.
OH, BEFORE THEY MOVED IT? NO, RIGHT NEAR THE, IT'S RIGHT NEAR THE LIBRARY.
THIS IS LIKE A COTTAGE THAT THEY MOVED FROM A, IT WAS ON CRANE CREEK.
AND THEY MOVED IT AWAY FROM CRANE CREEK.
A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF CRANE CREEK NOW.
I WAS THINKING OF ANOTHER BUILDING THAT HAS A LOT OF, UH, MILITARY AND STUFF FROM, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MILITARY.
IT'S MORE HISTORY, HISTORICAL FROM THE, THE FOUNDERS.
THE, THE BOUNDARIES HAVE MEL THE BROTHERS.
THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE THAT FOUNDED MEMER, THEY WERE LIKE FREE SLAVES, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WHAT TIME WAS THE, UH, EVENT ON THE 26TH? 10:00 AM I'LL SEND A, AN EMAIL.
HOW HAS THIS BEEN ADVERTISED? MM.
I DO PRESS RELEASE AFTER WE GET PICTURES.
IT'S MORE LIKE FOR THE BE TO GIVE A CERTIFICATE.
I'M GETTING A CERTIFICATE, UH, SIGNED BY PAUL AL, MAYOR PAUL RE AND THEN I HAVE TO GET NICK TO SIGN IT.
SO THEY'LL GET A CERTIFICATE AND THEN THEY'LL GET A SIGN.
THEY GOT THE EMERALD, UH, AWARD, WHICH IS FOR LANDSCAPING.
AND THEN THE PRESS RELEASE WILL GO OUT FROM THERE.
WELL, I'M GONNA PUT IT OUT ON FACEBOOK.
DID YOU GET MY NOMINEE FOR OH, THE GYM? YEAH, I SAW THAT.
YEAH, RIGHT ON THE CANAL THERE.
SO CHERYL AND I WILL GO CHECK 'CAUSE TODD'S NOT GONNA BE HERE.
AND I, I, I PROBABLY HAVE OTHERS THAT WILL COME TO MIND AS I GO ALONG THAT HAVE HEAVILY EMPHASIZED NATIVE LANDSCAPING AND COOL.
THOSE ARE USUALLY MY FAVORITE CUSTOMERS.
HER NAME SOUNDS REALLY, REALLY FAMILIAR.
WHAT DOES SHE DO FOR A LIVING? WELL, I THINK SHE'S RETIRED.
I THINK SHE COMES TO ONE OF OUR EVENTS.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME? I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED.
HEATHER ELKO DOESN'T SOUND FAMILIAR.
I'LL, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
THE NAME JUST REALLY RAN WELL, THANKS FOR THAT.
WE'LL ALSO KEEP HER IN MIND FOR SECRET GARDEN TOUR
OR THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY DOES A GARDEN TOUR AS WELL.
I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
BUT DAVE, WE'RE TOO, UH, BUSIER NOW.
SHOULD WE TABLE THAT? MM-HMM
LINDSAY WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK, OR SORRY, NEXT MONTH.
AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE CLEAN ENERGY AWARDS TOO.
[00:20:01]
BER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TODAY.AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LITTER.
MEGAN, CAN YOU MOVE YOUR MICROPHONE JUST BACK BROUGHT LOTS OF TRASH WITH ME, SO I'LL MAKE SURE I THROW IT IN THE PROPER RECEPTACLE BEFORE I LEAVE
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS INFORMATION.
I'M, I'LL PROBABLY ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE, UH, INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU HAVE LIKE A GENERAL CONCEPT, I'M HAPPY TO, IF NOT, I COULD JUST TALK ABOUT SOME STATUTES.
WELL, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A STATE STATUTE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
UH, FLORIDA LITTER LAW, AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL YOU HAVE TO GO ON AS FAR AS FOR, FOR THE MOST PART.
AND THAT'S STATUTE 4 0 3, 4 13.
UM, WHAT I, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH IT TODAY IN PREPARATION, WHAT I KIND OF THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE TYPICALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WE'RE NOT PROACTIVELY GOING AROUND SEARCHING FOR LARGE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DUMPING WASTE.
WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHO BELONGS TO WHAT, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO FOR US TO KNOW, UM, ON OUR OWN, NOW IF WE SEE SOMEBODY DRIVING, THROWING SOMETHING OUT THE WINDOW, WE, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT.
WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH CITATIONS.
UM, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL GET CALLS FOR SOMEBODY SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'VE GOT A PRIVATE BUSINESS, A PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT TO COME COLLECT MY, MY DUMPSTER.
AND NOW THIS GUY'S SHOWING UP AND FILLING MY DUMPSTER AND I GOTTA PAY FOR THAT.
SO, AND IN PREPAR, UH, PREPARATION FOR THAT, IT IS ACTUALLY PROHIBITED UNDER THE STATUTE.
AND THEN THE VIOLATION WOULD DETERMINE UPON THE WEIGHT AND THE MATERIAL, UM, OBVIOUSLY ANY HUMAN WASTE OR BIOLOGICAL STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT IF IT'S JUST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST REGULAR TRASH OR UM, WOOD PRODUCTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT WOULD GO BY THE WEIGHT DEPENDING ON IT.
SO IF IT'S LESS THAN, LET'S SEE, NOT EXCEEDING 15 POUNDS OR 27 CUBIC FEET, IT'S JUST A NON-CRIMINAL INFRACTION WITH A CIVIL PENALTY OF $150.
UM, BUT IF IT GETS BETWEEN O OVER 15 POUNDS, BUT NOT OVER 500, IT'S ACTUALLY A MISDEMEANOR.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S JUST THE UNDER 15, IT'S JUST A TICKET.
WE, WE DON'T TAKE 'EM TO JAIL, YOU KNOW? UM, BUT THEN IF IT GETS OVER 500 POUNDS, NOW YOU GET INTO A FELONY, LIKE THAT'S THE SERIOUS STUFF.
OR ANY KIND OF HUMAN BIOLOGICAL WASTE STUFF IS FELONIES.
REMEMBER? AND I, I'LL LEAVE YOU MY NOTES IF YOU'D LIKE, THAT WAY YOU, IT'S ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED FOR YOU.
I REMEMBER WHEN THEY FINALLY CAUGHT THAT GUY WHO WAS POURING HIS SEPTIC TANK, HIS SEPTIC, HE HAD LIKE A BUSINESS AND HE WAS POURING IT RIGHT INTO A WASTE MANAGEMENT OR, OR THE BOATS DUMPSTER.
RIGHT? WE HAVE A, WE HAVE BOAT THAT COULD BE DUMPING HUMAN WASTE INTO THE, IN THE LAGOON.
HOW DO YOU FIND THAT THOUGH? HOW DO YOU PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE SEEING IT AND CALLING IT IN.
YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I LIVE OUT ON THE RIVER AND THIS GUY KEEPS DUMPING, YOU KNOW, HIS, HIS, YOU KNOW, WASTE INTO THE WATER, WHATEVER, BLAH, BLAH.
I KEEP TELLING 'EM NOT TO, HE'S NOT LISTENING.
YOU GUYS NEED, AND WE HAVE A MARINE OFFICER THAT CAN GO OUT THERE AND ADDRESS THAT.
UM, THAT IS ACTUALLY, LET ME FIND HERE.
INTENTIONALLY DUMPING, NO, THAT'S THE WRONG ONE.
WHERE IS IT? IT'S IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
I WAS MORE ORGANIZED LAST MONTH.
AND I, I, I ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.
WE APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP TODAY.
I SEE EMAIL BEING, I'M LIKE, I GET THIS EMAIL, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, SHEILA? DON'T YOU REMEMBER? I'M LIKE, NO.
HUMAN WASTE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BOLD UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY LAW OR PERMIT AN UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO DUMP RAW HUMAN WASTE FROM ANY TRAIN AIRCRAFT, MOTOR VEHICLE, OR VESSEL UPON THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE LANDS OR WATERS OF THE STATE.
AND THAT'S WOULD BE A FELONY AS WELL, RIGHT? I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
UNLESS, EXCEPT, UH, TWO AND THREE.
THAT'S NOT, IT PROBABLY DEPENDS HOW MUCH IT IS.
WELL, LET ME, I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU THAT.
I'LL KEEP READING AS WE TALK, BUT, OKAY.
UM, OH, NO DUMP HAZARDOUS WASTE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD COUNT AS HAZARDOUS THOUGH.
I'LL FIND THE ANSWER FOR YOU BEFORE WE GET DONE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED.
UM, THAT'S WHERE I THINK YOU WOULD SEE IT.
OR IF YOU GOT LIKE, PEOPLE, HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING IN A CAR, NOW THEY'RE GOING OUTSIDE, THEY DUMP THAT THEIR TRASH RIGHT OUTSIDE THEIR CAR.
BUT LIKE, HOW IS THAT, IF THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE MONEY OR ANYTHING, HOW CAN YOU ENFORCE? SO IF WE, IF WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF, OF THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL CHALLENGED POPULATIONS, AND IF IT'S LIKE THEM DOING, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT E-BIKES EARLIER, IF THEY DO AN E-BIKE VIOLATION AND WE WRITE 'EM A TICKET, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY THE TICKET.
WE, WE, WE KNOW THAT IT'S, IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE STILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
WE CAN'T JUST IGNORE IT, SAY, OH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY IT, WE'RE JUST GONNA LET 'EM DO IT.
'CAUSE THEN THEY RUN ROUGH SHOTS.
BUT, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT DOES IS IF YOU DON'T PAY A TICKET TO SUSPEND
[00:25:01]
YOUR LICENSE, IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE A LICENSE AND YOU'RE NOT DRIVING, IT'S REALLY NOT GONNA AFFECT YOU.UM, BUT WHEN IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE IF IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MISDEMEANOR OR SOMETHING, THEN IT'S CRIMINALLY CAN BE ARRESTED AND, AND WE CAN GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
UH, BUT IT IS, IT IS VERY HARD TO ENFORCE, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU.
LIKE, WE HAVE, UH, OUR, OUR UNIT ACTUALLY HAS PEOPLE THAT GO OUT AND THEY DO, UM, 'CAUSE WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT PEOPLE SLEEPING, POOPING, PEEING ON PROPERTIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEY GO OUT AND TRY AND RUN PEOPLE OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND ARREST PEOPLE IF THEY'VE BEEN TRESPASSED, STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'RE JUST, THEY COME BACK OR IT IS A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE OR THEY JUST GO NEXT DOOR.
SO IT'S, IT'S A REVOLVING DOOR, BUT IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS POLICE TO TRY AND ENFORCE FOR THE PUBLIC.
RIGHT? IT'S A SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT.
UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER FOR YOU.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THE, THE, THE FLIP SIDE OF IT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.
AND THEN IT'S JUST THAT PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA, WE DON'T WANNA GET TO THAT POINT.
SO, UM, BUT ONE THING I DID FIND THAT I DO THINK IS A DIFFERENT STATUTE THAT I'VE ACTUALLY USED, UM, STATUTE FIVE 90.10, AND AGAIN, I'LL LEAVE YOU THIS.
UH, IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO THROW, DROP OR DISPOSE ANY LIGHTED MATCH, CIGARETTE, CIGAR, ASHES OR OTHER FLAMING OR GLOWING SUBSTANCE OR ANY SUBSTANCE OF OR THING THAT MAY OR DO, UH, DOES CAUSE A WILDFIRE.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A MISDEMEANOR AS WELL.
SO IF YOU SMOKER AND YOU FLICK THAT CIGARETTE OUT IN PUBLIC, IT'S A CRIME.
IT LIT YOU ASH IT, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
I SEE PEOPLE DO THAT DRIVING DOWN WCO.
BUT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
DO I GET THEIR LICENSE PLATE NUMBER? LIKE, THAT'D BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE, I MEAN, IF YOU TOOK A VIDEO, I CAN'T JUST CALL THE COPS, GO FILE A CASE.
UM, THAT'D BE VERY HARD TO PROSECUTE.
BUT IF IT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE MAINLY FOR, UH, I THINK PROPERTY OWNERS WITH, AGAIN, PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE OR, UM, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN, YOU KNOW, THE DRUNKS AND IN ON WEEKENDS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF THEY'RE ENCOUNTERING PROB, THEY'LL CALL US.
I CAN TELL YOU I WAS DOING, UH, YEARS AGO, WE WERE DOING A QUALITY OF LIFE AND RETAIL THEFT DETAIL.
I WAS WORKING WITH WALMART, THE MALL, STUFF LIKE THAT.
JUST HANGING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, LOST PREVENTION, DEALING DIRECTLY WITH US.
WELL, THERE WAS PEOPLE CASING THE PLACE AND THEY WERE SITTING IN THEIR CAR FLICKING CIGARETTES, BUT WE COULDN'T CATCH 'EM STEALING.
I WENT AND ARRESTED 'EM FOR THAT.
AND THEN I TOOK THE CAR, SOLVE THE PROBLEM A DIFFERENT WAY.
OH, JUST SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GET CREATIVE AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD CREATIVE LAW TO HAVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, DID, DID THEY PROSECUTE IT? PROBABLY NOT.
WERE THEY GONE FOR A WHILE? SURE.
AND THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEM COMMITTING OTHER CRIMES.
THE CIGARETTES FLICKING OUT THE WINDOW.
THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY PET PEEVES.
THE ONE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
HE, WE WERE, WE'RE WALKING UP ON IT, JUST TRYING TO MAKE CONTACT AND, AND AS I'M WALKING UP, HE FLICK IT AT ME AND I SAID, OKAY.
NOW AGAIN, I WAS IN, I WAS IN REGULAR CLOTHES, REGULAR CLOTHES.
AND IF HE HAD SAID SOMETHING LIKE, HEY MAN, I THOUGHT YOU WERE COMING UP TO ROB ME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I MIGHT'VE BEEN A LITTLE MORE AGREEABLE, BUT IT, BUT HE, HE'S, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU COMING UP.
SO HE JUST THROWING IT OUT? AND I'M LIKE, YEAH.
I SAID, IT WAS LIKE A PUDDLE OF GAS RIGHT THERE, WHAT HE SAID TO FIRE, I CAN'T SAY GAS.
SO I LIKE, OKAY, SO YOU GAVE HIM, SO WHAT'D YOU DO? SO HE WENT TO JAIL.
SO, BUT I'M, I'M PRETTY, UH, RELAXED MOST OF THE TIME.
SOMETIMES I CAN BE A JERK
WELL, ANYONE THAT'S BREAKING THE LAW IS GONNA THINK YOU'RE A JERK FOR ENFORCING IT.
AND, AND AGAIN, IF HE HAD JUST BEEN SOME RANDOM CUSTOMER SITTING OUT THERE, BUT WE HAD SEEN HIM IN THE PAST AND SUSPECTED THAT THEY HAD WORKING WITH PEOPLE INSIDE STEALING.
AND WE JUST HADN'T CAUGHT ON DOING THAT.
AND RATHER THAN WAIT FOR THEM TO DO IT, AND WE SAW A DIFFERENT REASON, WE CAN ADDRESS 'EM.
WELL 'CAUSE AGAIN, WE WERE WALKING UP TO DO WHAT WE CALLED A CONSENSUAL ENCOUNTER, JUST TO KIND OF LET THEM KNOW WE'RE THERE.
AND THEN HE HAPPENED TO DO IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND THEN KIND OF COPPED AN ATTITUDE ABOUT IT.
AND THEN, UH, I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND THAT.
I'M SURE THERE'S A STATISTIC OF PEOPLE WHO LITTER, UH, HAVE SOME SORT OF OTHER THING GOING WELL, WAS IT THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY THAT THEY SAY? YEAH.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY.
AND WE, WE HAD FULL AGREEMENT WITH WALMART, WHICH IS, IS GOOD.
'CAUSE THEY'VE COME TO THE POINT WHERE I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I GREW UP IN A TOWN, UH, IN, IN MISSOURI WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TRUCKERS WOULD PARK ON WALMART PARKING LOT AND SLEEP.
THEY DON'T LET THAT THEY CALL AND TRESPASS 'EM NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALLOWED TO DO NO, NO.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALLOWED TO CAMP AT WALMART.
'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY START DOING THAT AND THEY GET OUT AND THEY GET HURT.
HURT, AND THEN THEY SUE WALMART.
SO WALMART JUST SAID, NO MORE GET OUT LIKE EVERYWHERE NATIONALLY.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW FLORIDA, I ONLY HAVE MY, I ONLY HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE ONES IN, IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
SO ONE IN PALM BAY DOESN'T LET YOU EITHER.
I I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S PROBABLY MOST OF THEM, JASON.
SO IF, IF THERE'S AN INTIMIDATION OR THREAT, SO IF YOU'RE THROWING
[00:30:01]
STUFF LIKE A, UH, LET'S, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF POLITICAL THING AND YOU THROW, THEN THAT UP UPS IT TO A MISDEMEANOR.EVEN FOR THE, THE LOW WEIGHT STUFF, WHAT, UH, POTENTIAL DUMPING PRIVATE PROPERTY PURPOSE OF INTIMIDATING OWNER AND IS A CREDIBLE THREAT, IT BECOMES A FELONY.
SO THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE, LIKE, I'M THINKING LIKE AN ABORTION CLINIC WHERE PEOPLE THROW STUFF.
THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE UP, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE.
WELL, I, I RELAYED A STORY THAT I HAD ABOUT, UM, SEEING SOMEONE AT THE ALI PUBLIC LIBRARY JUST EMPTYING THEIR VEHICLE OF GARBAGE.
RIGHT IN, RIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT.
AND BIG PILE, LIKE NOT JUST, I MEAN, PILE OF GARBAGE.
AND, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
I LEFT AND, AND, UH, COUPLE BLOCKS DOWN THE ROAD, CAME ACROSS A MELBOURNE POLICE OFFICER AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS LADY DOWN HERE AND, AND HE DIDN'T HAVE TIME.
I MEAN, HE WAS JUST SITTING THERE.
HE BEEN STAKING SOMETHING OUT.
BUT HE SAID HE, HE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO, AND I'VE, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE FLICK CIGARETTES OUT THE WINDOW RIGHT.
IN FRONT OF COPS AND, YOU KNOW, NOTHING HAPPENS.
I, I, THE VAST MAJORITY OF COPS PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THAT LAW TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU.
BUT IF YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF THE PERSON DOING IT, CAN YOU FILE ON THEM OR SOMETHING? WE COULD FILE.
UM, OR IF YOU GOT A, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, VIDEO OR SOMETHING.
THE MORE YOU GET, THE BETTER, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, IF IT, IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, UNDER 15 POUNDS INFRACTION, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT.
WE'RE JUST NOT, I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO YOU.
IT'S LIKE I SAW THAT PERSON'S SPEED.
BUT I DIDN'T, IT'S, WE HAVE TO SEE THAT.
YOU CAN'T JUST, UM, FOR A MISDEMEANOR, THERE'S MISDEMEANOR EXCEPTIONS WHERE WE CAN PHYSICALLY ARREST SOMEBODY IF IT INCURS OUR PRESENCE.
OR LIKE A BATTERY'S A MISDEMEANOR MOST, UNDER MOST CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT, THAT WE CAN MAKE AN ARREST.
EVEN IF WE DON'T SEE IT IN OUR PRESENCE.
THIS DOES NOT QUALIFY AS A MISDEMEANOR SUBJECT TO, THE BEST WE COULD DO IS FILE THE CASE.
UM, I, I, I DON'T WANNA LIE TO YOU.
I I, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A, A CIGARETTE BOX OR A, YOU KNOW, TACO BELL WRAPPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA TAKE THE TIME TO FILE IT.
WELL, THAT'D BE AN INFRACTION ANYWAY.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S PROPERTY OWNERS, LIKE IF YOU OWN PROPERTY, PEOPLE ARE DUMPING STUFF, I, I THINK WE'D BE MORE INCLINED TO, TO ENFORCE THOSE AND PUSH THOSE.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE BEING ABSENT-MINDED AND IT'S SOMEBODY GOING OUTTA THEIR WAY TO KIND OF BE A JERK OR LIKE A CONTINUOUS THING.
THEY KEEP DOING IT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S REPEATED.
SO HERE'S SOMETHING ELSE I JUST HAPPENED TO KNOW WAS LOOKING FOR THE ANSWER THAT I CAN'T FIND FOR YOU.
UM, IF IT HAPPENS TO BECOME OUT OF A VEHICLE, THEN IF IT'S ADJUDICATED, EVEN IF IT'S, THEY WITHHOLD THE ADJUDICATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF GUILTY FINDING, THEY SEND THE INFORMATION TO DHS MV AND THEY PUT THREE POINTS ON YOUR LICENSE FOR LITTERING UP A CAR.
LIKE, SO IF SAY THAT HE SEES THAT AGAIN, SHOULD HE JUST CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY OR LIKE NINE? YEAH, THAT'S NOT EMERGENCY.
'CAUSE THEN MAYBE THAT COP WAS, YOU KNOW, HE WAS TOLD TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW OF.
SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CALL THE NUMBER, THEY'LL SEND SOMEBODY OUT AND THEN TAKE A PICTURE.
IF THAT PICTURES RIGHT NOW THAT WE ALL HAVE CAMERAS IN OUR POCKETS, I MEAN, YEAH, I'D BE DOING I'M, BUT THE OTHER THING IS, AGAIN, THERE'S SO MANY IFS AND, AND BUTS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH, BUT IF, IF THAT PERSON, THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY BAD.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THEY ALREADY LITTERED IN THEIR MIND, THEY'D BE LIKE, WELL, I HAVE TO WATCH IT HAPPEN AND IT'S ALREADY DONE, SO THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT NOW.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD.
DID SHE LEAVE? AND I MEAN, IF, IF IT'S YEAH.
OVER 15 POUNDS TO THE POINT WHERE IT BECOMES CRIMINAL, THAT PROBABLY WAS, BUT OH, IN THAT CASE, UM, IF, IF IT, IF IT, IF IT IS THAT SITUATION, AND TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER JOB.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DEAL WITH ALL THE TIME.
SO IT'D HAVE TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S PRETTY KNOWLEDGEABLE OR SOMEBODY THAT WOULD TAKE THE EXTRA STEP TO PULL UP THEIR, THEIR COMPUTER IN THEIR HAND WITH THEIR CAMERA, YOU KNOW, AND GOOGLE IT, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE.
UM, THEY CAN FIND IT FAIRLY EASILY, BUT IT'S, IT'S A FOUR PAGE STATUTE PRINTED OUT.
SO IF THEY DON'T KNOW IT, AND THEY MAY HAVE TROUBLE FINDING IT, I'M NOT MAKING EXCUSES.
TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU.
OR THEY MAY HAVE BEEN DOING SOMETHING ELSE, WE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT I LIKE THE NON-EMERGENCY CALL BECAUSE ONE, YOU CAN STAY THERE AND WATCH THEM AND GIVE UPDATES IF THEY LEAVE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
YOU'RE NOT LEAVING AND HAVING TO TAKE 'EM BACK.
SO NOW THAT, THAT PERSON HAS TO JUSTIFY TO THEIR BOSSES WHAT THEY DID AND WHY.
AS A SUPERVISOR, I WANNA KNOW WHAT MY GUYS ARE DOING.
IF MY GUYS ARE SITTING OUT THERE BLOWING YOU OFF, WHENEVER YOU'RE COMING UP AND ASKING FOR HELP, HE'S NOT GONNA KNOW THAT I WANNA KNOW THAT.
'CAUSE NOW THERE'S THIS CALL STAMP AND I GO, HEY, WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT CALL? OH, WELL THE GUY, I JUST TOLD HIM THAT, NO HE DIDN'T.
WE'LL FIND HIM, FIGURE IT OUT.
[00:35:01]
PLUS THERE'S A CONTACT, WE'LL ASK YOU CONTACT INFORMATION.SO IF HE DOES BLOW YOU OFF AND I WANT HIM TO FOLLOW UP, HE'LL CALL YOU BACK LATER AND SAY, HEY, I'M SORRY, LEMME COME MEET WITH YOU AGAIN.
UM, OR IF, IF HE'S DOING SOMETHING, THEN I'LL KNOW IT AND I'LL BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT TOO, YOU KNOW, BUT YEAH.
UM, SO WHAT HAPPENS IF, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF A PERSON, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE WHOLE BIG PILE OR WHATEVER AND YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE A PICTURE? OR IS THERE ANY PRIVACY LAW THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE, IF IF YOU'RE IN THE, IF IF IT'S SOMETHING COULD GENERAL PUBLIC CAN SEE, YOU CAN PHOTOGRAPH IT.
IF IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, LIKE IF, IF IF SOMEBODY'S GOT A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE AND THEY'RE THROWING SOMETHING OVER THE BACK, I WOULDN'T CLIMB UP ON TOP OF IT AND STICK IT OVER
BUT IF YOU'RE AT THE, YOU'RE AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE AT THE PIER OR WHATEVER AND SOMEONE'S THROWING STUFF OUT OF THEIR CAR, FILL AWAY.
SO IT'S, IT'S, WELL, YOUR RIGHTS TO DO SO THAT'S A PUBLIC PLACE AND IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND, AND, AND YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO DO THAT.
SO, SO DASH CAM FOOTAGE OF SOMEONE THROWING A CIGARETTE BUTT OUT MIGHT BE ACTIONABLE.
AGAIN, I, I DON'T, I HONESTLY, UNLESS IT'S LIKE SOMETHING ARTICULABLE, I DON'T SAY THE STATE PROSECUTING IT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T TRY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THING ABOUT THE GUY DOING IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, THAT, THAT THAT WAS SOLVING A PROBLEM AT THAT TIME.
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S FLICK A CIGARETTE OUT THE WINDOW AND US COMING LATER ON AND SAYING, HEY LISTEN, THEN WE'RE GONNA FILE IT THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT DO SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
I'M JUST TRYING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT THE PROCESS.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, UM, THERE'S ATTORNEYS AT THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THEY GET ALL THESE CALLED CAPS IS A REQUEST FOR A WARRANT, BASICALLY THEY GET CAPS IN FOR ALL THE CRIMINAL CHARGES AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO READ THEM AND EVALUATE THEM.
AND THEN THEY TAKE THE, THE HIGHEST CRIMES DOWN TO THE LOWEST.
SO THEY'RE GONNA START WITH FELONIES AND WORK THEIR WAY DOWN FELONY.
SO WHEN YOU GET THE SECOND DEGREE MISDEMEANOR, LEMME MAKE SURE THIS RIGHT.
CIGARETTE FIRST DEGREE MISDEMEANOR, SORRY, FIRST DEGREE MISDEMEANOR.
UM, THEY MAY NOT READ IT FOR SIX, SEVEN MONTHS.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA GO, WELL, I GOT THIS VIDEO, BUT I'VE GOT A YEAR TO PROSECUTE THIS CASE.
THE STATUTE OF LIMITATION'S GONNA RUN OUT ON A YEAR AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN SEVEN MONTHS AND BY THE TIME WE ISSUE IT AND, AND WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY WIN THIS CASE.
SO THE, SO THEY'LL MAKE THAT DECISION.
THEY MAY SAY YES AND FILE IT, AND THEN THEY'LL PUT A WARRANT FOR THE PERSON.
OR THEY'LL SAY NO AND NO, NO FILE IT.
BUT THE STATE HAS AN OBLIGATION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE STATE HAS AN OBLIGATION TO THROW AWAY ANY CASE THAT THEY DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE A 99% OR A BETTER CHANCE OF A SUCCESSFUL LIKELIHOOD OF PROSECUTION IS THE, THE WAY THE VERBIAGE IS IN THE STA IN THE STATUTE.
SO TO GET A CON CONVICTION, YOU NEED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, WHICH I SAY IS ROUGHLY 99, THAT'S, THAT'S ME SAYING 99 NOT THE LAW, BUT THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THROW IT OUT, THROW IT OUT.
IF IT'S NOT A A, A PRETTY MUCH A SHORT THING.
IF THEY DON'T THINK THAT, IF THEY'RE NOT SURE THEY'RE GONNA WIN THE CASE OR PRETTY SURE THEY'RE GONNA WIN THE CASE, THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE PUBLIC TO DISPOSE OF THAT CON THAT CASE BECAUSE THE COST INVOLVED IN PROSECUTING IT AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO A CASE THAT THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA WIN.
IT'S, IT'S NOT WORTH IT TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DISPOSE OF THAT CASE.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WHENEVER THEY, THEY GO THROUGH IT.
AND I, I IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT DON'T DO A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING OURSELVES TO PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, I HAD THIS, I I'M OUR PIO TOO.
SO I WAS TALKING WITH MEGAN MORIARTY FROM WHAT, FOX 35 I THINK, OR WHAT WAS SHE? CHANNEL TWO, I THINK SHE WAS TWO.
BUT YOU, I WAS TALKING TO HER ABOUT A CASE AND SHE ASKED ME, WELL WHAT DO YOU, YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? I WAS LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, I EXPLAINED THAT TO HER AND THEY GO, WELL WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND TRY IT? I SAID, WELL, 'CAUSE OR WHY DON'T YOU JUST DO IT? I SAID, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ALL OUR DUCKS IN A ROW.
AND UH, SHE WAS WANTING TO KNOW WHY WE TOOK SO LONG TRAFFIC HOMICIDE.
SHE GOES, WHY IT TAKES SO LONG? I SAID, WELL, GO AHEAD, GET HER EVIDENCE.
WE GOT DNA, WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA FIND THE GUY.
I SAID, IF WE JUST GO GRAB THE GUY WHEN WE THINK WE KNOW WHO IT IS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE OUR EVIDENCE, OH, YOU CAN GET SUED OR RIGHT, RIGHT.
'CAUSE WE GET SUED ALL THE TIME.
THEY HAVE, THE DEFENDANT HAS THE RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL.
IF THEY OPT TO, THEY CAN DECLINE IT, THEY CAN WAIVE IT.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN BOTH CASES.
BUT IF I'M A DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND I GET A CASE AND IT'S HALF DONE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE VIDEO.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE DNA NA YOU DON'T, I'M, I'M ASKING FOR SPEEDY TRIAL.
I'M HAVING THAT TRIAL NOW BECAUSE I'M GONNA SAY, OH, HOW DO YOU KNOW IS MY, DO YOU HAVE DNA? NO.
AND THEN THERE'S A THING CALLED DOUBLE JEOPARDY.
ONCE WE TRY A CASE, IF EVEN IF WE LOSE IT, WE CAN NEVER TRY THE CASE AGAIN.
THAT'S WHY OJ NEVER GOT RE RETRIED.
IT'S LIKE LINDSAY CLANCY RIGHT NOW.
BUT
AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT COULD DO ABOUT IT CRIMINALLY.
'CAUSE HE ALREADY GOT TRIED AND WON.
THAT'S WHY I SAY MORE RECENTLY WITH THE GEORGE FLOYD CHAUVIN WITH GEORGE FLOYD.
YOU KNOW WHY? IF, IF THAT HAD BEEN ANY OTHER PERSON THAT WOULD'VE ARRESTED HIM ON THE SPOT, YOU KNOW, TALKING
[00:40:01]
ABOUT ARRESTING THE COP, IT'S NOT TRUE.FIRST OF ALL, SECOND OF ALL, THERE HE WAS THERE FOR ILLEGAL REASON.
WHETHER OR NOT HE DID LEGAL ACTIONS, IT'S DIFFERENT.
BUT THEY HAVE TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT.
THEY HAD LIKE 60 PEOPLE TO INTERVIEW AND VIDEOS AND PHONES.
THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION THAT NIGHT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IF I'M HIS, IF I CHAUVIN'S ATTORNEY, THEY MAY ARRESTED THAT NIGHT, I'M GONNA TRIAL THE NEXT DAY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE CASE READY.
THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE THAT CASE READY.
AND THEN HE GETS ACQUITTED ON THAT AND THEY NEVER TRIED IT AGAIN.
SO, BUT AGAIN, WE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT DON'T DO A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING THAT TO THE PUBLIC.
AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LABS AND, AND YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S BUSY.
DO YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE AND ALL THAT? YEAH.
IN A TRAFFIC HOMICIDE CASE, WE HAVE THE, ME, YOU KNOW, GEORGE FLOYD, THE ME, THEY HAVE TO GO DO THE ME EVALUATION OF THE BODY TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
SO, UM, I THINK IF I WAS GONNA DO A POST LAW ENFORCEMENT JOB, I'LL DO A PODCAST ABOUT LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AROUND LAW ENFORCEMENT TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC JUST THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
LIKE THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION NOT TO TRY A CASE IF THEY DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTION AND THEY USED TO FRUSTRATE ME, I WOULD'VE THIS GREAT CASE AND I'D WRITE IT UP AND I'D SPEND HOURS DOING IT AND I'D SEND OFF THE STATE ATTORNEYS.
THEY'D GET A LETTER BACK SAYING COULDN'T GET A HOLD OF THE VICTIM.
SO WE HAVE A, NOT THE CHANCES OF PROSECUTION ARE OR NOTHING WE'RE GONNA THROW AWAY.
AND IT'D BE LIKE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASE.
I'D BE LIKE, YOU TELL ME I HAVE TO ARREST THEM IF THERE'S PROBABLE CAUSE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA PROSECUTE IT.
I FEEL LIKE THAT HAPPENS A LOT THOUGH.
A LOT OF TIMES DON'T WANT TO OR THEY'RE SCARED.
BUT IT, I WAS PROBABLY 10 YEARS INTO MY CAREER WHEN I, I FIGURED OUT THAT THEY HAD AN OBLIGATION TO, TO REJECT THOSE.
AND THEN I FELT BAD FOR CUSSING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR SO LONG.
BUT ANYWAY, I STILL CAN'T FIND YOUR ANSWER.
I'M SO SORRY, BUT I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANY MORE TIME THAN YOU NEED ME TO.
IT ACTUALLY HELPS THOUGH YOU EXPLAINING WHAT WE CAN DO.
IT'S LIKE WITH THEIR CASELOAD, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR EXCUSES TO THROW CASES OUT.
YOU KNOW, UM, AND AGAIN, WITH THE STATE'S ATTORNEYS AS FAR AS THEM, UM, REVIEWING THE CASES AND, AND DECIDING WHAT TO FILE ON AND WHAT NOT FILE ON, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN AGAIN, IF IT'S BEEN SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS NOW YOU, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RUNNING LOW ON TIME.
THAT'S WHY SOME OF OUR OFFICERS LIKE TO GO AND THEY LIKE TO TRY AND WRITE UP A WARRANT AND HAVE A WARRANT SIGNED AND ARREST A WARRANT AND GET IT DONE SOONER.
'CAUSE THEN YOU SUBMIT YOUR PROBABLE CAUSE AFFIDAVIT TO JUDGE.
BUT YOU KNOW, SOME, THE SUPERVISOR SAID, WELL, THE JUDGE DON'T WANNA READ THOSE.
THEN OTHER PEOPLE GO, YEAH, THEY DO THIS, IT'S THEIR JOB.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S SIX AND ONE HALF DOZEN ANOTHER, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO CONSENSUS.
SO HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T DOOM AND GLEAM ME TOO MUCH.
ANY OTHER POLICE RELATED QUESTIONS WHILE I'M HERE? YOU KNOW, I, I REQUESTED YOU TO BE HERE AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN, UM, HOPING TO SORT OF, UH, FIND A PARTNER IN THE MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT SURE.
IN THE BEAUTIFICATION MM-HMM
PART OF OUR, UM, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, WRITING THOSE TICKETS AND, AND MAKING YOUR OFFICERS AWARE THAT HEY, THERE IS A FLORIDA LITTER LAW AND SURE.
AND IF WE SEE SOMEBODY DOING IT, WE NEED TO ENFORCE IT.
IF SOMEBODY HAS SOME PROOF OF SOMEBODY DOING IT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED.
AND MAYBE WE NEED TO BRING SOMEONE FROM THE DA'S OFFICE DOWN HERE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HERE, THEY WORK.
SO THEY MIGHT SEND SOMEBODY DOWN.
BUT AS FAR AS TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT IT, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THERE UNFORTUNATELY TO TELL YOU WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY THAT WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY FOR LIKE FELONY CASES AND STUFF.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD HAVE A COMMENT.
AND I FIND IT'S ONE OF THOSE, IT'S TYPICAL ATTORNEYS SPEAK, YOU KNOW, HEY, HERE'S WHAT I'VE GOT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO? WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD DO?
WELL, THAT'S, THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK WELL.
CAN YOU THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE? WELL, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT? WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK OF
AND I, AND I GET THAT SO WELL BEING THAT THAT FLORIDA LITTLE LAW IS A STATE LAW, IT, UM, WOULD SUPERSEDE ANY LOCAL LAWS IN THAT REGARD, I SUPPOSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THING, SOMETHING I'VE NOTICED IS THAT, UH, THESE, UM, CONVENIENCE STORES, UH, THEY ARE ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF LITTER AROUND THEM.
THAT'S, AND YOU KNOW, TRYING TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT IS SORT OF THE CONUNDRUM WE'RE IN.
I THINK IF I WERE A CONVENIENCE STORE WORKER THOUGH, I WOULD SAY I'M INSIDE AT THE REGISTER WHERE THE MONEY IS.
THEY'D BUY THE STUFF, WHAT THEY DO WITH IT OUTSIDE, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THAT'S LIKE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
[00:45:01]
IF YOU SEE THAT, YOU NEED TO LET CODE ENFORCEMENT KNOW.THEN THEY CAN REACH OUT TO THE PRIVATE OWNER.
AND I WONDER IF, IF MELBOURNE WOULD HAVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO, UM, MAKE TRASH RECEPTACLES AVAILABLE IN HIGH LITTER AREAS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
UH, WE PROVIDE TRASH RECEPTACLES THROUGH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT ON OUR OWN PUBLIC LANDS.
BUT WE DON'T PROVIDE TRASH CANS TO PRIVATE.
WE CAN ONLY DO LIKE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR ON THE PUBLIC SIDE.
WELL, THERE ARE RIGHTS OF WAYS EVERYWHERE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THAT TOO.
WHICH, AND I, YOU'D HAVE TO FIND A GRANT OR SOMETHING.
IT'S OVER, OVER SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO LIKE THE PLACES LIKE WALMART, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO THERE, THERE'S ALWAYS TRASH ALL OVER THE PLACE.
DOES THE, IS THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY, YOU KNOW, THE WALMART RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING CARE OF THEIR YES.
AND THAT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
SO I COULD GO TO THE MANAGER AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF TRASH YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, HE CAN GO TO THE MANAGER OR JUST GO STRAIGHT TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
YOU MEAN THE, THE THE MELBOURNE CODE ENFORCEMENT? YEAH.
WHAT'S THE PHONE NUMBER? IT'S ONLINE.
UM, IF YOU GUYS GO TO OUR WEBSITE, MELBOURNE FLORIDA.ORG.
UM, YOU CAN FIND ALL THE NUMBERS TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM DEALING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND HAD OTHER PROBLEMS, THEY WILL NOT OPEN A CASE UNLESS THEY HAVE A VICTIM TO REPORT A CASE.
YOU CAN'T JUST REPORT THAT THERE'S RIGHT, RIGHT.
YOU, YOU CAN CALL US AND SAY, I WANNA ANONYMOUSLY REPORT SOMEBODY'S THROWING TRASH ON THE STREET OVER HERE.
AND THEN WE'LL STAMP THE CALL AND DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH IT.
YOU CANNOT CALL THEM AND SAY, I WANNA ANONYMOUSLY REPORT WALMART'S TO NOT CLEAN UP TRASH IN THE PARKING LOT.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PEOPLE.
AND ALSO, LIKE ON THE BEACH, I DO A LOT OF WALKING ON THE BEACH AND THERE'S ALWAYS TRASH ON THAT AND, BUT YET THERE'S DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO THERE'S LIKE INDIAN HARBOR, YOU KNOW, INDIA.
SO HOW DO YOU, WHO DO YOU CALL OR IS, IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITH OUR BEACHES IN OUR COUNTY THAT HELP? I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TRASH BINS LOCATED LIKE IN THE PARKING LOT AREAS.
BUT ON THE BEACH ITSELF, THEY DO SOME OF THE BEACHES DO, UM, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, INDIAN THE ATLANTIC.
UM, THEY HAVE, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE PARK IN THE ATLANTIC.
AND THEY USE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO KEEP THEIR BEACHES CLEAN AND OKAY.
PEOPLE AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
OR YOU CAN JOIN OUR INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP TOMORROW
YOU NOT GONNA PICK UP TRASH ALL OVER BD COUNTY.
YOU'LL EVEN GIVE THEM A TRASH BAG, WON'T YOU? THERE'S A LOT OF, HUH? CAN GIVE 'EM A TRASH BAG.
WON'T YOU? CAN I CAN GIVE YOU TRASH BAG STICKERS, BOXES, EVERYTHING.
IT'S HARD BECAUSE LITTER IS NOT GONNA STOP.
LIKE, IT IS NOT JUST FROM PEOPLE GOING TO THE BEACH, IT'S FROM THE OCEAN BRINGING IT IN.
SO IT'S, THIS IS NOT LIKE, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY PEOPLE TO GO CLEAN UP, UNFORTUNATELY.
LIKE IT WOULD BE NICE, BUT, BUT COUNTIES AND CITIES DON'T FOCUS ON THAT.
AND THAT IT'S UP TO THE COMMUNITY REALLY TO, AND IT'S UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON, PERSON TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
IF YOU'RE WALKING ON THE BEACH EVERY DAY, TAKE A POSS I DO TAKE A BAG.
AND IT DRIVES ME CRAZY, BUT I DO WILL HELP.
AND ACTUALLY PEOPLE DO THAT TOO AS WELL, WHICH DRIVES ME NICE.
I, I I GUESS HOW DO YOU CHANGE THE SOCIAL AWARENESS OF THE COMMUNITY? EDUCATION? RIGHT.
I MEAN, SMARTER PEOPLE THAN ME ARE GONNA FIGURE THAT OUT IN THE SCHOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
UM, AT A CC YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES THAT? YEAH, WE HAVE A SCHOOL BRANCH THAT GETS THE YOUTH INVOLVED.
WHAT'S A CC? THE AMERICAN CONSERVATION COALITION.
SO NONPROFIT THAT BASICALLY IS TRYING TO GET THE YOUTH INVOLVED IN ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS.
SO WE DO TABLING AT THE COLLEGES AND STUFF AND GET PEOPLE INVOLVED.
UM, AND IT HELPS WITH VOLUNTEER HOURS TOO AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
A LOT BETTER THAN IT USED TO BE.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE INVOLVEMENT OF PEOPLE PER SE, A LOT BETTER THAN IT USED TO BE.
[00:50:01]
BUT WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE NOW.SO REMEMBER, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS GROWING UP THAT I'D ALWAYS SEE THE SIGNS, UH, THAT SAID $50 IF YOU'D LITTER A HUNDRED DOLLARS IF YOU'D LITTER.
I DON'T SEE ANY OF THOSE SIGNS ANYMORE.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH CITY SIGNAGE AND POST, I DON'T KNOW.
THE BEACHES ARE WEIRD, HUH? WELL, THEY, THEY ARGUE THAT WHEN YOU PUT THOSE SIGNS UP, PEOPLE LITTER EVEN MORE.
IT'S, YEAH, THERE'S JUST, IT IS LIKE A PSYCHOLOGICAL THING.
IT'S LIKE WE GET SPEEDING COMPLAINTS AND I PUT THE SPEED TRAILER UP.
I HAVE TO DISABLE IT OVER 15 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE IF NOT, PEOPLE WILL DRIVE FAST TO TRY AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN GET TO
LIKE THERE'S PEOPLE, IT'S A REAL PHENOMENON.
I, I I, I LITERALLY HAVE TO HAVE A SETTING IN THERE TO TURN ON TO, TO NOT SHOW THE NUMBER OVER 15 MILES AN HOUR.
I, I, I PUT 'EM ON THE CAUSEWAY.
BECAUSE THEY WENT AND, AND WE'RE LIKE, HOPEFULLY IT WASN'T A COP, BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANNA BE DEFIANT, RIGHT? MM-HMM
HEY LOOK, THEY DON'T THINK IT'S MONITORED OR RECORDED OR THEY'LL GET CAUGHT.
THEY GO, OH, YOU KNOW, HEY LEMME SEE HOW FAST I CAN GET UP TO AS THEY GO DOWN THE CAUSEWAY
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO GO REALLY FAST ON THAT CAUSEWAY.
I I, YEAH, THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY.
LIKE YOU GET UP THERE AND EVERYONE'S LIKE, HERE YOU'RE LIKE, LOOK UP 85TH PERCENTILE.
THE 85TH PERCENTILE ON THAT 45 MILE HOUR ZONE IS 60 MILE AN HOUR.
YOU CAN'T GO 45 MILES AN HOUR OVER, OVER A CAUSEWAY 50.
IT'S, MY GUYS SIT THERE FREQUENTLY THAT US ONE, THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE AND BACKED UP.
ANYWAY, ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NO, JAMIE, IF WE, UH, HAVE A PARTNER IN YOU AND, AND SURE.
MAYBE, UH, YOU COULD ENCOURAGE YOUR GUYS TO UH, TAKE SUCH A THING SERIOUSLY AND MAYBE WE CAN GET THE DA ON THE SIDE AND IF YOU SEE THAT AGAIN, ACTUALLY PROSECUTING THOSE THINGS AND YEAH.
AND IF YOU SEE STUFF SAY SOMETHING, WELL TAKE PICTURES, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU.
I WOULD THINK THE PENALTY OUGHT TO BE GETTING 'EM OUT THERE CLEANING UP LITTER.
I GOT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY, UH, WHAT IS IT? AND I KNOW YOU CAN DO THAT IN, IN LIEU OF FINES IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY.
BUT WE, MOST PEOPLE, WHEN THEY GET LIKE DUIS, THEY DO THE COMMUNITY SERVICE.
'CAUSE I, I FOUND A WHOLE STACK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
MAYBE SERGEANT BEDROOM SLOWER.
HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT, UH, APOLLO BECAUSE IF IT'S APOLLO IT'S WRONG.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
UM, GIVING THE CARD, THE MAIN REASON I'M GETTING THE CARD IS GOT AN EMAIL ON THERE.
IF YOU HAVE LIKE CERTAIN AREAS, EMAIL ME.
I CAN GIVE 'EM TO OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICERS.
WE CAN TRY AND ROTATE THROUGH OR YOU KNOW, IF IT'S THERE MORNING STUFF, NOT SLEEP AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE CAN DO THAT.
I WILL GO BACK AND TALK TO MY BOSSES, UM, ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS AND SEE IF THEY CAN PASS ON INFORMATION TO THE PATROL.
JUST DO A WIRE INFORMATION ON, ARE YOU ALLOWED TO DO LIKE A LITTLE CAMPAIGN? LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW LIKE SOMETIMES WE DO CAMPAIGNS LIKE THE BACK TO SCHOOL ONE WITH THE BUSES AND THEN WE DO UH, SPEEDING.
MAYBE LIKE LITTER
I MEAN LIKE CAMPAIGN, LIKE WHEN SCHOOL COMES AROUND, THEY DO A WHOLE THING ABOUT BUSES.
BUS, THEY'RE CALLED IEPS AND WE DO 'EM.
UM, IF IT'S NOT CAR RELATED, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO IT, BUT THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE WOULDN'T BECAUSE YOU'RE A TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.
BUT WE DO HAVE TEAMS THAT CAN DO IT.
WE, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO GET INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING YOU GUYS, WE NEED MORE DATA.
MAYBE, UM, EMAIL ME YOUR CONCERNS IF YOU SAY IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY LOCATIONS LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT THE BEACH.
WE WON'T GO DO A LOT WITH BEACH.
'CAUSE PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THE BEACH IS SO SEGMENTED.
IT IS UP TO THE DUNES IS US AND BEYOND THE DUNES OF THE SHERIFF BREVARD COUNTY.
IT'S THE SAME WITH THE BIKE PATHS.
I TRY TO GET SOME BIKE PATHS REPAIRED AND I HAD TO GO THROUGH FIVE AGENCIES.
THEY, I THEY PAVE IT TO THIS FAR AND THE NEXT ONE HAS TO
AND WITH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT E-BIKES EARLIER.
I WAS DOING RESEARCH AND SATELLITE BEACH AND INDIAN HARBOR BEACH WERE COMPLAINING BECAUSE THEY WOULD, THE KIDS WOULD BE ON THE BIKE E-BIKES ILLEGALLY AND THEY'D TRY AND STOP 'EM AND THEY'D JUST GO DOWN THE BIKE PATH INTO SATELLITE BEACH AND THEN SATELLITE BEACH WOULD GO CHASING AND THEY BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH FROM THE CITIES AND THEY KNOW THAT THEY MUST HAVE FAMILY THAT WORKS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
PEOPLE THAT I DID RESEARCH WITH, THEY SAID THEY WOULD TRY AND STOP THE KIDS AND THEY'D RUN AND THEY'D GO INTO TRAFFIC AND GET THE CARS.
SO THERE ARE WORST THINGS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S SIX ONE HALF.
IF YOU GUYS DO HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'LL BE ABLE TO DO, BUT WE'LL TRY AND FIGURE SOME OUT.
[00:55:01]
INTO SCHOOLS? TEACHING THE KIDS ABOUT THE E-BIKES? OH, BUT YES.NO, YEAH, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THAT LITTLE BOY THAT PASSED AWAY, LIKE ON LAKE WASHINGTON, HE WAS ON A E-BIKE AND HE GOT HIT BY A CAR.
WHICH ONE? GRANDMA? IT WAS ON LAKE WASHINGTON.
UM, THE KILLING ON E-BIKE THAT GOT HIT AND GOT AIRLIFTED, BUT WAS FINE.
WAS IT ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR WHEN WAS IT? IT WAS QUITE RECENTLY, LIKE YEAH, MAYBE LIKE A YEAR AGO.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT KILL OH GOOD.
BUT, UH, STILL IS, BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOT IDEAL GARY.
SO, UM, PART OF THE INITIATIVE, I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO INTO SCHOOLS, BUT THEN I GOT STUCK DOING OTHER STUFF, SO I'M A LITTLE BEHIND ON THAT, BUT IT'S STILL MY POINT.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAD.
I WAS JUST REALLY LATE FROM LAST NIGHT,
I, I WONDER IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LEGALLY ADDED TO THE FLORIDA LITTLE LAW JUST IN OUR LITTLE NECK OF THE WOODS HERE.
UH, THAT IN ADDITION TO, WE'D ADD A PENALTY OF MAKING THEM CLEAN UP LITTER FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE.
BUT SPECIFICALLY CLEANING UP LITTER
I GUESS THE SERGEANT WOULD'VE BEEN A GOOD ONE TO ASK THAT QUESTION.
WASTE REDUCTION PROPOSAL FOR MEGAN.
UH, SO YEAH, I SENT THIS OUT TO EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU STEVE, FOR YOUR EDITS.
SO I CHANGED THAT, BUT BASICALLY I'M JUST WORKING ON A PROPOSAL TO REDUCE SINGLE USE PLASTICS AND PROMOTE, UM, COMPOSTING AT, UM, CITY EVENTS.
AND I'M WAITING FOR THE PROPERTY TAX PROPOSAL TO PASS OR NOT.
'CAUSE I KNOW THIS IS GONNA PROBABLY NOT BE POPULAR IF WE'RE NOT GETTING PROPERTY TAXES, SO
UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WANNA WORK TOWARDS IN OUR OWN CITY.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
AND I NOTICED WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS AND STUFF, LIKE WE HAVE EVENTS AND WE'RE VERY CONSCIOUS, LIKE WE HAVE COMPOSTING AND WE USE COMPOSTABLE STUFF, BUT I NOTICED WHEN OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO THEIR EVENTS, THEY'RE USING PLASTIC PAPER, YOU KNOW, JUST THE REGULAR STUFF THAT PEOPLE USE.
SO I WANNA TRY TO CHANGE THAT.
WHAT ABOUT EDUCATING, UM, LIKE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT, THAT UTILIZE, UH, I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE, LIKE, I WON'T MENTION THE NAME, BUT LIKE A CHURCH FOR INSTANCE, UH, TO BE EDUCATED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULDN'T BE USING STYROFOAM.
HOW, HOW CAN, HOW COULD THE CITY SEND A, A FLYER TO THE BUSINESS DIRECTOR OR, I MEAN, I, I JUST THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I MEAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT MYSELF, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT I'M THINKING, IF YOU GO TO A CHURCH YES.
WELL THEN, YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT US TO COME VISIT THE CHURCH, WE'RE ALLOWED, WE CAN DO THAT.
WELL, I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A CHURCH AND A SCHOOL.
SO IT'S BOTH, WHAT IS IT FE CATHOLIC? NO, IT'S DO A PROGRAM.
IT'S ONLY NAME OF JESUS A PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
YEAH, I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE PAST.
UM, I MEAN, CHERYL'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION COORDINATOR SO SHE CAN GO TALK TO SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, I MEAN COMMUNITIES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT, THEY HAVE TO BE, THEY HAVE TO BE.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO, THE HIERARCHY HAS TO AGREE TO IT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT, UM, BUT I MEAN, SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO PUSH FOR.
I MEAN, UM, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I CAN MAKE, I MEAN, I COULD EVEN TAKE THIS PROPOSAL TO STAFF AND JUST SAY, I'M A MEMBER OF BEEB AND OUR CHURCH IS NOT REALLY DOING VERY WELL.
LIKE, YOU WANNA USE THIS AS A FOR YOUR OWN CHURCH? YEAH, SURE.
I MEAN, MORE THAN HAPPY IT'S FREE AND I'M CHARGE YOU ANYTHING.
SO YOU WOULD, YOU'RE SAYING YOU, YOU WOULD COME AND SPEAK TO THE SCHOOL KIDS OR THE YEAH.
TEACHERS OR THE STAFF OR ALL OF THEM.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CAFETERIA PEOPLE THAT BUY THE I KNOW.
YOU KNOW, THE STYROFOAM IS THREE TIMES CHEAPER THAN PAPER PLATE OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU
[01:00:01]
KNOW.IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL THAT DRIVES ME CRAZY.
BUT, UM, BUT YOU'D PROBABLY SAVE MORE MONEY MAYBE IF YOU USED REUSABLE ONES AND YOU JUST WASH 'EM.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, THEY, YOU'D HAVE TO SHOW THEM.
I KNOW FOR SOME PEOPLE ARE, I MEAN, WE COULD SHOW THE COST BENEFIT BIG TABLES, THEY GOT RID OF THE, THE PLASTIC AND NOW THEY HAVE A CLOTH AND THEY, THEY WASH 'EM, YOU KNOW, SO.
BUT DO THEY WASH, UM, DISHES AT ALL? YES, WE HAVE A DI WE HAVE A COMPLETE, UH, WE HAVE A KITCHEN.
THAT'S COMPLETELY, SO, I MEAN, THEY COULD, THEY COULD DO ALL THAT STUFF.
THEY COULD BE GETTING REUSABLE TRAYS AND JUST WASHING 'EM.
WELL, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE TRADE.
THEY PROBABLY EVEN HAVE TRADES.
THE ISSUE IS WHEN ANY, THERE'S ANY SCHOOL, ANY FUNCTIONS, LIKE AN EVENT.
IT'S ALL, YEAH, IT'S ALL STYROFOAM.
IT'S ALL STYROFOAM, EVERYTHING.
I KNOW IT'S A BIG CHURCH, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S THE, THAT'S THE FUNNY, IRONIC THING IS LIKE, THERE'S NO RECYCLING AT ALL.
LIKE, THERE'S NO RECYCLING AT THAT CHURCH EITHER.
WELL, I COULD DEFINITELY DO A RECYCLING PROGRAM FOR YOU.
THERE IS NOTHING MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAD THESE GREAT BIG CYLINDRICAL BINS THAT YOU PUT GLASS, PAPER AND CARB.
AND I THINK, I THINK WHEN THE CHURCH EVEN GOT MONEY FOR IT OR SOMETHING.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S LONG GONE.
AND WE HAVE AN EVENT AND WE HAVE WATER BOTTLES, WE HAVE THES ALL GOING IN THE TRASH.
I BET WE'RE NOT THE ONLY INSTITUTION THAT DOES THAT.
AND SO HOW DO, HOW DO YOU GO? NO, YOU'RE NOT TO THOSE, THOSE PLACES.
OR, OR MAYBE THE CITY COULD SEND A LETTER TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
TO THE BUSINESS DIRECTORS, UH, OR YOU KNOW, REALLY IT'S THE PASTOR, THE PASTOR AND THE BUSINESS DIRECTOR AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE AT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, WHICH YOU LIVE IN, UM, ARE SUPPORTING THESE SUSTAINABLE MEASURES.
AND, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, POPE FRANCIS WAS THE ONE THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THE EARTH.
THAT'S THE FUNNY, IRONIC THING ABOUT IT.
HE, HE WAS REALLY INTO THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, OKAY, WELL IF, IF YOU WANNA, UM, SEND ME ANYTHING OR I'LL, I'LL USE THIS OR WHATEVER, AND I, I WOULD SPEAK TO THE STAFF, UM, OKAY.
THAT'S AS, AS YOUR CONTACT INFO.
SO WE CAN, BUT I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, NOT JUST FOR THIS INSTITUTION, BUT AGAIN, FROM ANY OF THEM ASCENSION OR, OR THE PROTESTANT CHURCHES.
AND I KNOW SYNAGOGUES, UM, AND THERE'S SOME BIG PLACES, YOU KNOW, WELL TALK TO THE, TALK TO THE POWER OF YEAH.
ASK IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, IN, IN ME COMING AND DOING A PROGRAM FOR THEM, BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO OKAY.
WHETHER IT'S TRASH OR RECYCLING OR YEAH.
BUT, BUT THEY, THE CITY WOULD OFFER, UH, A, A RECYCLING BIN OR A RECYCLING.
SO BUSINESSES HA AND, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A CHURCH IS CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL UHHUH, THEY HAVE TO PAY A COMPANY TO RECYCLE.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY'RE NOT RECYCLING.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY'RE NOT DOING IT.
IS IT EXPENSIVE? THEY CAN CHOOSE WHOEVER THEY WANNA USE.
THEY CAN CHOOSE REPUBLIC WASTE MANAGEMENT, ANY RECYCLING, UH, WASTE PRO, UM, GET DIFFERENT QUOTES, BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT THAT.
BUT EVEN IF THEY DON'T DO RECYCLING, IF THEY GO TO THE PAPER THING, THAT'S GONNA BE OFFERED EVEN SO, LIKE SOMEONE WHO'S AT CHURCH WHO LIKES TO RECYCLE, LIKE CAN TAKE IT TO THE HOUSE.
CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE THOUGH THOUGH.
THERE'S A BIT IN THE STAFF ROOM THAT I JUST EMPTY AND I TAKE OFF.
YOU CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TO RECYCLE AT YOUR CHURCH.
YOU COULD, YOU COULD DO THINGS LIKE, ALRIGHT, SO, UM, GEORGE, YOU ARE GONNA DO BOTTLES AND YEAH.
JOHN CAN DO PAPER, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
LIKE WHO ELSE? YOU CAN FIND OUT WHO ELSE LIKES TO RECYCLE THERE.
THERE'S GOTTA BE LIKE AT LEAST ONE OTHER PERSON.
I'M SURE THERE'S LIKE A FEW PEOPLE THAT, BUT I THINK AND YOU COULD JUST TAKE IT TO YOUR HOUSES AND, AND RECYCLE IT.
BUT I'M, BUT I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, UM, IF THE CITY COULD, WE CAN PROVIDE EDUCATION AND WE CAN PROVIDE FLYERS AND STICKERS, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND YOU, YOU CAN, YEAH, I CAN GIVE YOU INFORMATION.
I, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO BUY.
UM, WHAT WOULD, WOULD THE CITY BE WILLING IF I MADE UP A LIST OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CHURCHES, CHURCHES AND STUFF TO ADDRESS TO THE PASTOR OR MM-HMM
I MEAN, I COULD SEND A LIST OF WHO I, SOME OF THE BIGGER PLACES, JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT IT WOULD BE A GENERAL LETTER.
LIKE OUR PROPOSAL IS TO REDUCE SINGLE PLASTICS AND FOOD WASTE IN THE CITY AND CITY SPONSORED EVENTS, BUT CHANGE IT TO THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, THESE ORGANIZATIONS SET A HUGE EXAMPLE.
[01:05:01]
PEOPLE LOOK TO TO, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE BIG CHURCHES.THERE IS A BIG CHURCHES IN THIS TOWN.
I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF WASTE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
THEY'RE LIKE, IF MY CHURCH ISN'T DOING IT, WHY SHOULD I DO IT? YOU KNOW? YEAH.
WELL I'LL, I'LL AND YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
I'LL CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THE STAFF AND MAYBE JUST USE THIS PROPOSAL JUST TO AS IMPRESS, I MEAN, YOU CAN GET A LOT OF COMPOSTABLE PLATES AND STUFF FOR PRETTY CHEAP.
LIKE ON AMAZON, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST BUY, YOU BUY A THOUSAND PLATES FOR $50 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO SEE THOSE COMPOSTABLE PLATES AND STUFF BEING USED TO GO CONTAINERS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE OFTENTIMES IT JUST GOES IN THE GARBAGE TOO.
THAT'S AT LEAST BETTER THAN PLASTIC THOUGH.
I KNOW IT DOESN'T REALLY LIKE BREAK DOWN, BUT IT'S STILL BETTER, YOU KNOW, THAN, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE, BECAUSE IF IT FLIES OUT OF A TRUCK OR SOMETHING, I'D RATHER A COMPOSTABLE ITEM SURE.
AND WHEN IT ENDS UP IN THE LANDFILL, I'D RATHER IT PEEP COMPOSTABLE THAN, YOU KNOW, THE PLASTIC THAT THE BIRDS ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF BIRDS AT THE LANDFILL AND THEY'RE EATING ALL OF THAT PLASTIC.
A LOT OF BIRDS HAVE DISAPPEARED ON AND SO ARE WE OUR MICRO PLASTICS MEAN? YEAH.
THE MORE WE CAN GET RID OF, THE BETTER IT.
IT'S LIKE THOUGH, IF YOU WERE TO SET THIS UP AT CITY EVENTS, YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE A MONITOR AT THE BINS.
WELL, THIS IS WHY I MAKE EVERYTHING COMPOSTABLE AT OUR EVENTS BECAUSE IF THEY THROW IT AWAY, IT'S GONNA, WE JUST HAVE COMPOSTABLE CONTAINERS.
UM, AND THEN WE, WE HAVE RECYCLING.
WELL, THE FOOD WASTE WOULDN'T, I MEAN, IF, IF THEY PUT THE FOOD WITH THE COMPO.
WE DON'T HAVE MEAT AT OUR YEAH.
THESE, UM, SERVICES TAKE ALL THAT THOUGH.
IF IT'S INDUSTRIAL, THE THE WORMS EAT WORMS STUFF.
HOW DO YOU SAY THAT? VERMA COMPOST.
I DON'T HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL, BUT I HAVE MY OWN WARM BOX BOXES I SHOULD SAY.
HONESTLY, I DID COMPOST LIKE A WHOLE CHICKEN ONCE AND IT WAS, IT, THE ANIMALS ATE IT SO FAST AND I HAD BLACK SOLDIER FLIES LIKE ALL OVER IT.
I DON'T DO THE, THE BONES OR THE MEAT, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE I KNOW.
I DON'T EAT, WE DON'T EAT A LOT OF MEATS AT MY HOUSE.
SO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FUN FOR PEOPLE THOUGH IS IF YOU HAD A ONE OF THOSE, UH, CHIPPERS THERE AND JUST THROW YOUR PLATE RIGHT IN THE CHIPPER.
THEY BE LIKE, CAN I THROW YOUR PLATE AWAY? THAT'S KIND OF COOL.
YOU REALLY HAVE TO WATCH THAT ONE.
BE AFRAID OF I KNOW THEIR FINGERING.
DON'T PUT YOUR ARM IN THERE THOUGH.
AGAIN, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY MONITORING IT, LIKE, SO.
ALL RIGHT, WELL THANKS FOR YOUR, UM, EDITS AND THANKS FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
YOU CAN USE THIS GEORGE AND OKAY.
IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, JUST, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO US, HONESTLY.
ALRIGHT, I'LL, I'LL WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES.
THIS COULD BE SHARED WITH ANY ORGANIZATION AND WE HAVE BEEN TO HOLY NAME OF JESUS IN THE PAST, LIKE, UM, TO DO EDUCATION AT THEIR SCHOOL.
THE SCHOOL MAY BE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN, THAN OTHER PARASHIP EVENTS.
I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH THE SCHOOL AS MUCH, BUT WE'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED.
SO A LOT OF LIKE, UM, THE RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS, LIKE THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS MM-HMM
ARE MORE OPEN THAN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL.
IT'S LIKE, BUT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL I THINK WOULD BE, HAS TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE COUNTY.
SO THEY MAKE A DECISION THERE.
AND I DON'T, THEY'RE JUST MORE STRICT.
THEY'RE MORE STRICT ABOUT THEIR CURRICULUM.
THE TEACHERS ARE OVERWORKED, SO IT'S HARDER TO GET INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR US THAN LIKE, PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
SO WE COULD DEFINITELY GET INTO THAT.
ANY MORE ON MEGAN'S PROPOSAL? MOVING ON TO FUTURE SPEAKERS.
SO WE HAVE, UH, BRUCE, LINDSAY, AND LISA.
COMING NEXT MONTH ON THE 16TH OF OCTOBER.
UH, BRUCE LINDSAY, UM, WE WILL TALK ABOUT, UM, CLEAN ENERGY AWARDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WANTS TO, UH, UPDATE YOU ON THE MOST VALUABLE POND, UH, PROGRAM.
[01:10:01]
SO BOTH OF THEM WILL BE SPEAKING IN OCTOBER.IS THERE ANY ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN? NOT IN OCTOBER? 'CAUSE THAT'S FULL.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, UH, HAVING TO SPEAK? I MEAN, I, I, I'VE MENTIONED THE DARK SKY PEOPLE A FEW TIMES.
UM, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM? MM, I HAVE EMAILED WITH THEM.
I DID TALK TO THEM ON THE PHONE TOO.
UM, WERE THEY INTERESTED? THEY'RE IN VERO.
SO I, I THINK THE GUY SAID HE'D BE HAPPY TO COME DOWN AND GOT, COULDN'T TALK.
NO, HE'S GONNA BE AT OUR EVENT.
WHICH ONE? ON, UH, A LAGO FEST.
SO ALSO, UM, THINK ABOUT, UM, NOVEMBER AND THIS, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN DECEMBER, BUT THINK ABOUT NOVEMBER IF YOU WANT A MEETING OR NOT, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THANKSGIVING.
OH WAIT, HE'S NOT GONNA BE HERE.
IS TODD GONNA BE OUT FOR A WHILE WITH HIS SURGERY? YEAH, PROBABLY ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
SO WE DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA COUNT ON HIM FOR NOVEMBER.
HE MIGHT BE BACK IN NOVEMBER, BUT I DON'T WANNA COUNT ON HIM.
AND THIS ONE'S GONNA BE HAVING A BABY, SO HE'S GONNA BE OUT FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO YOU'RE DOING NOVEMBER? MM-HMM
GONNA HAVE, HE'S GONNA BE A GREAT KID.
SO I'LL FEMALE BRING UP NEXT MONTH AS WELL.
MAYBE WE CAN NOT, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO NOT HAVE A MEETING TWO MONTHS IN A ROW AND THEN COME BACK IN JANUARY, BUT I'M JUST GONNA PROPOSE THAT.
UM, SO MAYBE NEXT WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT MONTH WHEN THERE'S MORE PEOPLE.
I AM WORKING OUT TRYING TO GET, UM, MY STATE DIRECTOR FOR A CC TO SPEAK ON LIKE YOUTH PROGRAMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT WITH CONSERVATION.
UM, SHE'S JUST VERY BUSY WITH THE, UM, WITH EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT I DEFINITELY DO WANT TO GET HER OUT HERE TO A MEETING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
I'LL JUST TALK TO HER MAYBE AND MAYBE GIVE HER LIKE A CHAT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME SOON.
WHENEVER, WHATEVER WORKS FOR HER, HONESTLY.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION OF FUTURE SPEAKERS? HOW ABOUT OUR ANNUAL REPORT? I SENT THE ANNUAL REPORT TO NICK, UH, AN OLD ONE FOR HIM TO START THIS YEAR'S, BUT HE HASN'T, HE HASN'T, UM, STARTED IT.
DO BUSINESS ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA.
WE'LL PUT THE MVP PROGRAM ON THERE.
ANYONE ELSE? WE'VE GOT OUR SPEAKERS.
UM, YOU, YOU PUT THAT OUT A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING SO WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME IF WE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS.
SO ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO BRING UP, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS AND COMMENTS, UM, FOR THE LAGOON FEST, UM, WHAT, WHAT DAY AND WHAT TIME IS THAT? IT'S SATURDAY, UM, OCTOBER 17TH.
UM, AND, UH, AUSTIN HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU GUYS WANTED A TABLE, BUT I NEVER HEARD.
UM, ARE YOU STILL LOOKING FOR PEOPLE AT THE TABLE FOR IT? I HAVE ROOM FOR A ONE MORE FEE PERSON.
HOW, IF YOU WANT A TABLE, I GOT ROOM FOR A ONE MORE.
IS THERE AN EXPENSE? THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS.
YEAH, I CAN GET, UM, NO CHARGE.
IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY 45 DIFFERENT VENDORS, ENVIRONMENTAL VENDORS, THERE'S SOME CRAFTS OR SOME JEWELRY PEOPLE, BUT MOST OF 'EM ARE ENVIRONMENTAL.
WE HAVE FOOD TRUCKS AND UM, UH, CITY TRUCKS THERE, A HARVESTER THERE.
WE HAVE SPEAKERS PRESENTATION AND MEGAN GOT 98 5 BEACH TO DO, UM, UH, LIVE BROADCASTING FROM THERE AS WELL AS NICE, NICE.
SO NO, I'M THE NEW BRANCH LEADER FOR THE A C SPACE COAST.
SO I, WE'LL BE, I CAN'T HEAR YOU SCOTT SPEAKING.
UM, NO, I'M THE NEW BRAND NEW BRANCH LEADER FOR THE A CC.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE THERE FOR TABLING.
YOU GOTTA CALL ME SO I CAN GIVE YOU THE FORM AND SO IT'S ALL OFFICIAL.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT I COULDN'T,
[01:15:01]
UH, HAVE A GREEN PARTY TABLE THERE.THAT'S ALL THE ROOM ONE AND HE JUST TOOK IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO.
YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME AS A AS SURE AS A GUEST AND PASS OUT WHATEVER, WANDER AROUND AND TALK TO EVERYBODY.
BUT TABLING WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM POLITICS.
I'LL EMAIL YOU, ESPECIALLY NOW.
UM, I'LL LITTLE HARRY THESE DAYS, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
I'LL EMAIL YOU AFTER WE'RE DONE HERE.
WELL, IT'S ELECTION SEASON, YOU KNOW.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR THE NEXT AGENDA, GEORGE? NO.
UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS OR COMMENTS? NO.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION? I SECOND IT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT THREE 17.